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10-14-2003 - Regular Meeting - Minutes• MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE WEST COVINA CITY COUNCIL October 14, 2003 Mayor Herfert called to order the Adjourned Regular Meeting of the West Covina City Council at 7:50 pm in the Community Room on the first floor at City Hall, 1444 W. Garvey Avenue, West Covina. Councilmember Hernandez led the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL Mayor Herfert, Mayor Pro Tern Miller Councilmembers Hernandez, Sanderson, Wong Others Present: Pasmant, Adams, Genovese, Loveday, Fields, Urban, Dewus, Greene, Chung, Lee, Janis, Taylor, Wills, Yauchzee, Berry ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Mayor Herfert asked for comments from the audience and the following individuals addressed the City Council: Ed Casanova Ed Casanova, 809 Avington, spoke favorably towards the BLD project, urging Council to move forward with it. Ferdinand Chan Ferdinand Chan, 3129 E. Virginia Avenue, agreed with the BLD project; however, he felt the community really needed soccer fields and should be included in the project. Joanne Wilner Joanne Wilner, 2108 Casa Linda Drive, felt the City could abandon the BLD project if the City chose to do so. She expressed concern that the City Council was being swayed by economics. She favored a community park at the BKK site, rather than the Big League Dreams project. John Scheuplein John Scheuplein, 1800 Aroma Drive #247, noted his support for BLD. Mark Booth Mark Booth, 1455 Queen Summit Drive, was concerned that a chasm between Councilmembers was too deep to bridge, even when it comes to something as beneficial to the community as the Big League Dreams project. AMBULANCE SERVICE Fire Chief Greene elaborated on the staff report and responded to Council's questions and comments, particularly regarding the different hiring/compensation methods open to the Council for discussion concerning drivers for the ambulances. Assistant Fire Chief Janis offered additional comments regarding industry standards for ambulance driver compensation. Jim McNeal of Cole -Schaefer Ambulance added additional clarify- ing comments about the hourly wages. Recess A brief recess was called at 8:45 pm to change the battery in the video camera. The meeting reconvened at 8:52 pm with all members present. Council Minutes of 10/14/03 Adjourned regular meeting • • Jim McNeal Jim McNeal, Cole-Sheafer, stated he would need to let drivers go if his business dropped. He stated that California law doesn't allow governmental entities to make a profit. Chief Greene reminded the Council of the size of the Fire Department's budget and any monies received from the ambulance transport program would recover only a small portion of it. Art McKiesnan Art McKiesnan of American Medical Response (AMR) discussed the availability of ambulances and response times. Stephen Recce Stephen Recce, Bellflower, referred to Wage Order 9 and stated the rules covering hours and shifts concerning ambulance drivers. Ed Rendon Ed Rendon, El Monte, spoke as a Teamsters member and said the Fire Department's proposal would hang up twenty-six workers. Richard Sena Richard Sena, South El Monte, asked Councilmember Hernandez to reconsider the motion. John Scheuplein John Scheuplein, 1800 Aroma Drive #247, felt the whole issue is public safety and response time. In business, you win contracts and you lose contracts, and that's the nature of doing business. And that may happen with the ambulance companies on this issue. He favored the Fire Chief s recommendation. Herb Redholtz herb Redholtz, 2622 Altamira Drive, felt this proposal opened a revenue stream and spoke in support of the staff recommendation. Pat Belmonte Pat Belmonte, 1234 Butterfield Avenue, suggested the matter be placed on the ballot for the citizens to decide. She stated that she has plenty of petitions of individuals who would like to vote on this. Francis Dowling Francis Dowling, Schaefer Ambulance Service, noted that Schaefer's attorney wrote a letter suggesting that the City Council needs to check with the City Attorney before making a decision. Council Comments Councilmember Sanderson wondered about the business license fees and tax loss to the City from these ambulance companies if the City moves forward with the transport program. She felt there were so many questions about the finances and concerns about the number of ambulances necessary for the size of our community. She hasn't heard an outcry from the firefighters that it's necessary for the City to take on the transport program. Therefore, she sug- gested working with the ambulance companies. Councilmember Hernandez felt public safety was the main issue. He stated his desire to move forward in the best interest of the citizens. He felt there was a lot of confusion about the RFP process, Wage Order 9, and the numbers presented tonight, making it difficult to move forward. Motion Motion by Hernandez and seconded by Herfert to table these issues until we get further clarification on the questions that have been raised today. Motion carried 3-1-1 with Miller voting no and Wong abstaining. Mayor Herfert stated that as Chief Greene brings back the answers to the questions, somebody could reagendize it they wanted to. From his own perspective, he said the issue has always been about service not about money. This issue came up during the budget 2 Council Minutes of 10/14/03 Adjourned regular meeting process and there were issues brought up tonight that make the proposal questionable. Those need to be pinned down before moving forward. He said he would like the Council to move forward with the pass -through fee and suggested that be agendized for the next meeting. • PURCHASE OF THREE (3) TYPE II AMBULANCES Council reviewed the staff report. Mayor Herfert stated that the action on the preceding item applies to this item as well (tabled until someone asks for it to be reagendized). ADJOURNMENT Motion by Sanderson and seconded by Hernandez to adjourn the meeting at 9:40 pm. Motion carried 5-0. Attest: V/� City Clerk Janet Berry • Mayo teve er ert 3