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05-05-1976 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR -MEETING OF CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA MAY 5, 1976 n LJ The adjourned regular meeting of the City Council was called to order at 7:55 A.M. by Mayor Nevin Browne at-Coco's Restaurant. ROLL CALL Present: Mayor Browne; Councilmen: Miller, Chappell, Shearer, Tice Others Present: P. Schabarum, County Board of Supervisors R. Campbell, Asst. to P. Schabarum H. Dynes, Asst. to P.,Schabarum L. Preston,.City Clerk M. Miller, Public Services Director B. Freeman, Reporter, S.G.V.D.T. M..Ward, Reporter, L.A. Times C..Jones, League of Women Voters Mr. Schabarum: We have had get togethers of this kind over the years-, but there seems to be a considerable time span from one to the next. We try to condense these things to get around a little better. I hope the format is workable. As the case in • the past, we have asked the City Manager to give us a list of the things on your mind. As a result of that, I do have a list of questions that were called in yesterday that we could go through, if that is your pleasure. First Question:. Relationship of LAFCO and the annexation policies, as well as the sphere of influence. Well, Ken and I both serve on LAFCO. In so far as sphere of influence to the San Gabriel Valley, I think it is pretty.well behind us. The cities know where an invisible line is, where one city should be if annexation is involved. Where do I stand to bringing in cities? It is and has been, in so far as that is concerned, my personal preference that the majority of people ought to have the right to make that decision themselves as opposed to the mandated philosophy that -is and has prevailed in some legislation. Going through the whole litany of pros and cons, I just think • if the city is interested in annexing an island (I hope many of them are because I like to see them included in cities), it is a sales job on the part of the city to get those people interested in becoming a part of the city. CITY COUNCIL Meeting with P. Schabarum May 5, 1976 Page Two We have a Community Services Legislation which in the final analysis might prompt unincorporated parts of the _county3r^to become part of the various cities. Passage of • this legislation last year included Los-AAngeles County. Having been adopted, the City of Los Angeles is in the process of delivering the material that would be in.an application for a County Unincorporated Service area. Councilman Chappell: The application is very complicated; it takes a long time to put together all of the information requested. The City of Los Angeles has made the indication, but has not come forward any further than the original intent. I look for it to be six to eight months to a year, if they are going to do it. The League of California Cities is interested in it and is trying to work with Los Angeles to get it done. Perhaps the application is too complicated, and LAFCO will have to do some work on it. Councilman Tice: Would the County, from an economic standpoint, gain? Economics -wise, would we cut our costs down? Do you think it would have anything to do with holding the line or possible reductions? Mr. Schabarum: That depends in large measure to what cities various unincorporated parts • of the County go to. If annexation is to a contract city, not any noticeable,,A- if to the independent, it might. There are three points prevailing in the chats I have had with other cities. (1) Because the City of Los Angeles is in the development of information on the application, we get it from the County that there is not the interest in providing the information that there should be. (2) My personal expect;a:t.on;= is that there will no doubt be litigation to get a judicial explanation of "extended services." It is -very ambiguous in the written law. (3) I am not going to want to support the creation of just.one County -wide Unincorporated Service area. The theory is that if such would come to pass, we would have unincorporated areas in this part of the County subsidizing the areas in other parts of the County. My interest is to develop several proposals that represent service areas in the spheres of influence in the several:c'ities. Recognize that the fundamental issue is a requirement that the -people vote to tax themselves to provide.the dollars which pepresent the cost of the extended services in their particular area. Failing to do that, the level of extended services shall be reduced, and then, if that doesn't work right, the folks may push to annexa- tion. It is a long drawn out exercise, not of any great significance in the forseeable future. - 2 - CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976 Meeting with P. Schabarum Page Three Second Question: What about Lemon Avenue? Simply put, we have been around and around on that. It is on the Master Plan of Streets and • Highways for the entire County. -It has been a joint exercise. with the cities and the County over the years. • • In so far as the County is concerned, there is' not and will not be for the forseeable future funding for. that. When and if the unimproved property along the right- of-way is brought into development, it is assumed that the three jurisdictions (Walnut, West Covina, County) through which the right-of-way follows would require the developer to develop and improve Lemon Avenue according to the Master Plan of Streets and Highways. I have no idea what development plans might be for the various properties other than the south side of the hill (in Walnut) seems to have some growth going along. That may bring along development of the right-of-way there. Councilman Chappell-: ;Is the County in the process of studying their whole Master Plan of Streets and Highways? Mr. Schabarum: I am not aware of it on any County -wide basis. Different routes and widths are reviewed on an on -going basis as something comes up. To my knowledge, it is not a broad study. Mayor Browne: There is no priority development in there.because of lack of funds, and clearly stated, it is up to the developers to give the dedication. Councilman Shearer: By legislation you could erase the line there from the•Plan and say it is no longer in the Plan unless developed. You could take it off to placate all of the people, but if the hills are ever developed, there has to be a road. Councilman Tice: There are other ingress and egress .points along there. Councilman Shearer: Mr. Seymour came the other night to say they don't want anymore traffic on Amar. Councilman -Tice: Possibly Grand. Councilman Shearer: The only way to keep the road from going through there is to keep out development and,:that would mean the agency would have to buy it. - Councilman Tice:, Who has that kind of money? - 3 - CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976 Meeting with P. Schabarum Page Four Mr. Schabarum: That is the. fundamental issue right there. I think a good deal of the local concern is founded on some mis- information (a six lane freeway) and.has been blown out of proportion as far as the Master Plan of Streets and Highways. Point of priority, the priorities in relation to the road budget, this project is very slim in any budget and this route is not even on any long range list of high priority budget items. I am looking at the moment at a road budget for the First District for new construction of a million dollars. That is nothing in terms of this. I have any number of things that have been in process for three or four. years that slowly come up to the top of the pile as work is accomplished. That is something we have to live with, which sort of moves on to the next question on ATC funding. Third Question: IATC Funding. There is and will be the current level of funding for ATC to the cities for the next year. What might be the case in the following years, I simply cannot tell you. Unless additional revenues are generated to the highway pot, it can be assumed that we will get to the point where we don't have any new construction, just maintenance and repairs. Mayor Browne: That is our concern with our streets. • We see deterioration without funds to rapair them. How much of the gas tax funds were diverted to the Rapid Transit District?, Mr. Schabarum: Diversion of the gas tax funds to the County budget came under Proposition 5. Majority of the Board stipulated they were going to reserve the taxable allowable for diversion in subsequent years. This year an additional $13 million dollars for rapid transit will be diverted. So, that is the amount of money that the majority of the Board chose not to use for road improvements,,but for a starter line. It is a local match that would go against what might come from the Feds. As part of the local match, it is expected that the cities of Los Angeles.9and Long Beach and the State CALTRANS would also make available their maximum dollars that would be diverted. This match would generate one to four dollars from the Feds. This year the . City of Los Angeles chose not to do so. Long Beach has indicated little intent to do so. CALTRANS has.said,; 'Weill do it, we think, but your local SCAG is going to make the decision 4 - CITY COUNCIL Meeting with P. Schabarum May 5, 1976 Page Five as to which State highway projects shall be deferred to free the money. I have been trying to get the policy changed to get the money back into the highway fund. I have a hunch it • will come to pass, but I can't bet on it. A couple of the Sunset Coast.Line.; programs include the same potential routes that the starter line would. And so, if it is approved by the people, it would be funded out of the sales tax rather than out of the other mechanism, and the other would-be subject to diversion. If it isn't approved by the people, a couple of the guys on the Board will take the view that the people don't want it, so we are not going to proceed with rapid transit and the money will still come back. The Proposition 5 money decision has been postponed until June 10, 1976, two days after the election. Councilman Chappell: How can Los Angeles not do it if the voters so indicated - not put their money in the pot? Mr. Schabarum: The starter line has been principally identified to run between downtown Los Angeles and Long Beach, and all of the council members who are not beneficiaries of that don't support it. Enough of them to hold it up. Plus, Mayor Bradley has focused primarily on the Wilshire corridors as the preferred starter route. The problem at this point of time is that all • of the routes are going to be so expensive that you are not going to get much for the maximum dollars generated, assuming a maximum allocation of the local agencies is $100 plus million plus four matched by the Feds. Councilman Tice: Who was the one that did the engineering work on a fixed rail concept? Mr. Schabarum: You mean Baxter's proposal? It was done by his staff - a newsman, private investigator anda few other highly incoinpet:erl folks who put it together. Councilman Tice: No one else? Mr. Schabarum: Not in putting it together. The original proposal has been the object of critics. The results of the reviews have been highly critical in many respects. Councilman Tice: I have read them. • Mayor Browner This City Council has taken an action in opposition to the Sunset Coast*. L. ne.., - 5 - CITY COUNCIL Meeting with P. Schabarum May S, 1976 Page Six Mr. Schabarum: I am very much aware of the good judgment of the City Council. • Mayor. Browne: As such, we received the packet distributed by your office. On the llth the.cities are meeting? Mr. Schabarum: I think it is the 13th. Mayor,Browne-: Are you going to be present at that meeting? Mr. Schabarum: Yes. Mayor Browne: I'd intended on going to it. Hopefully, we will be able to express our opinion. In that direction, I am sure you are going to need some backup. Mr. Schabarum: I would just hope that anybody that has an interest in arriving at a conclusion would ask basic fundamental questions on it. The packet I put out stimulates some questions. It represents my analysis of that, and many of the points raised by the consultants that were hired to analyze it as well. She idea is, as you read in the • ordinance, that a statioh location will be selected by both the RTD and the city, additional costs will be allocated if that city wants a more aesthetic feature. It is at the city's expense. You should know by way of the explanation that I have received, it also believes that the city will provide the parking lots and surface street improvements for accessibility. Councilman Tice: Pretty expensive. Councilman Shearer: Originally, when they were planning the E1 Monte busway, a parking facility was planned in the City of San Gabriel, funded by the agency conducting the bus. There was so much objection locally, that the City Council said,` "We don't want parking here. What does it do for us?" For as much as I have commented on a transportation center, really, it will do nothing for the city pays for it - putting out and getting nothing back. Mayor Browne: The city would be the transfer point • of all feeder lines; that is the only advantage. - 6 - CITY COUNCIL Meeting with P. Schabarum May 5, 1976 Page Seven Councilman Chappell: It doesn't benefit you very much, if at all. . Mayor Browne: The Chamber of Commerce has an on -going study in this division, and I don't see the wisdom of it. I don't think it will help to merely have another stop like E1 Monte. Councilman Chappell: Have you made your.replacement for RTD yet? Mr. Schabarum:, I have been holding off a little bit because I have a few other things I want to make some points on. I am still working on the Labor Agreement, for instance. There is some momentum in the White House, Councilman Chappell: Will they sign the original Agreement for one year? Mr. Schabarum: Well, it is two years, but about a year running. Finally, as of last week, we are getting some momentum going in two Secre.t�ary:,,: ` of Labor offices. The White House said they have to arrive at a conclusion.' • One.of the things I am interested in is trying to get the 2-way radios funded out of federal grant. That is, 2-way radios to_go in the buses to be of assistance in the vandalism and assault problems. Councilman Chappell: They don't write that up too much, do they? Mr. Schabarum: No. We are going to have enough trouble funding any kind of subsidy to the Rapid Transit in the upcoming year. Councilman Chappell: What about using one of the several defense funds, since, down the road, the radios could be considered defensive? Mr. Schabarum: The application has been filed and it has been bouncing back and forth between the District and UMTA for months. I think it is a sure thing, just a matter of jarring it loose. We are down to the point of going out for bid, I • think. Councilman Chappell: Just be something else that will be vandalised in.... Mr. Schabarum: It is anticipated to have a,silent alarm that the driver can trigger. - 7 - CITY COUNCIL Meeting with P. Schabarum Councilman Tice: May 5, 1976 Page Eight Where is the meeting on the 13th to be held? • Mayor Browne: At T. -'&'.J'D` Restaurant in Rosemead. • Mr. Schabarum: Councilman Chappell: Listen carefully to that rascal; he is smooth. I went to the meeting that he held. Mayor Bradley is supporting the plan. Mr. Schabarum: It is beneficial politically for him to do it. More fundamentally included in the plan, as it is now, is a subway under Wilshire Blvd., which was not in the original plan. Secondly, there will be allocation of substantial funds for the program in downtown Los Angeles in exchange for the support. As far as I am concerned, the peripheral cities are being had. Councilman Chappell: Before Bradley became Mayor, he opposed all of that stuff. Interesting how he has changed his philosophy. Mr. Schabarum: It is going to be a good debate. Most of the cities have not taken the position you have. Those that have supported it, just simply are supporting the idea of putting it on the ballot. From my point of view, that is not satisfactory. Councilman Chappell: It is deceiving for the person on the street who doesn't realize the concept behind it. He becomes misle4'-'about what the big problem is. I see a City Council approving it to get it on the ballot, but the public reads the literature in favor of it and all of the cities approving it, and it looks like it has their support. It is difficult to get the message over to the people. The cities that oppose it are not brought out in the publicity or literature, as I see it. Our City Council, in opposing it, had a difficult time in getting the message across. Mr. Schabarum: There is a group being formed to indicate opposition. I think it might be well for some real strong discussion on your part either at the Association or League meeting, too. Councilman Chappell: I am surprised at the number of cities taking a positive stand for lack of information. We were invited to Baxter's presentation of this at the Dorothy Chandler_;: Pavilion, and, frankly, the eyewash was beautiful. I never saw a guy put • • CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976 Meeting with P. Schabarum Page Nine the word across as well as he does. He did not put facts and figures on the table at all, and probably doesn't even know them a day at a time. As I remember, it did not have a subway running down Wilshire Blvd. Mr. Schabarum: No, it didn't. As a matter of fact, he has been very much opposed to the Wilshire Blvd. corridor in concept, not to mention the subway aspect. Mayor Browne: So, then, "he and Bradley have their differences on that? Mr. Schabarum: INo, they worked them out. Fourth Question: Prevailing Wage I hear you and know what.you are talking about. I guess that which I would ask for in the way of some help is to get a third vote to put the prevailing wage on the ballot for November. I am going to make,a concerted effort to get the vote of the Board of Supervisors. I tried for the June election, but only got a second. If you all could assist, that would sure help. I've got some help from the Whittier folks. Mayor Browne: Give us the background, and we will work on it. Councilman Chappell: Hayes' position is not supportive. Mr. Schabarum: He was endorsed by the County Employee Association. Councilman Chappell: Is he running for re-election now? Mr. Schabarum: Yes, and he has no major opposition, but he didn't want to put it on the ballot. Councilman Shearer: Irrespective of the prevailing wage clause, this term prevailing wage, particularly in areas such as police and fire, you can't compare private industry to a public agency. A particular agency might be right up at the top in the way of salaries, and then the cry is, "We want to be paid prevailing wages." If,you are at the top, you are more than prevailing. Mr. Schabarum: Part of my complaint is that the prevailing wage then begins collective bargaining. - 9 - 0 C� CITY COUNCIL Meeting with P. Schabarum May 5, 1976 Page Ten Councilman Shearer: Take prevailing wage strictly, and apply it by a more conservative approach. You don't end up at the top; somebody has to be at the top, but the top goes up and up on the prevailing wage. Mr. Schabarum: Well, that happens. Right now, we have details in the County budget for the upcoming year. We have a budget recommendation that has come from the Chief Administrative Office (CAO) that proposed to raise the County tax rate to the maximum under SB-90, an additional 36 cents. On top of that, he pro- poses to set another provision in the law and motion that would also increase it by another 5 cents for a total increase of 41 cents. He also assumes, by the way, that (1) general revenue sharing is going to continue and that the County would get an additional $50 million beyond what was currently antici- pated under the program to expire at the end of the year; and, (2) a ten percent increase in gs:sess:men't: evaluations. Not withstanding all of that, it is still going to require the reduction in services, prompting a layoff or phasing out of 2500 employees (more like 3500). That will give you an idea of where our financial problems are. Councilman Tice: Would the reduction be on an attrition basis? Mr. Schabarum.: Phasing out the employees in the time frame necessary. I am not supporting that kind of a tax rate. Councilman Chappell: Is a pay raise budgeted into the system? Mr. Schabarum: Within the proposed budget is a substantial amount of dollars in anticipation of an increase in wages and benefits. A month ago we authorized (in executive session) a maximum pay package that the Administrative Officer could negotiate with employee groups. That amount of dollars is buried in the budget. In those meetings we had all of the discussion on the prevailing wage and what it says. It is more classification by classification. There are some classifications that we would pay more than comparable salaries in private industry, and some that we would pay less. Law suits by the particular employee groups have brought a resolution of the issue in their favor. A week ago I received information of one suit in which they alleged that - 10 - • CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976 Meeting with P. Schabarum Page Eleven they were not being paid the prevailing wage. The group won the suit, and that is another $4,000 plus dollars. So, not withstanding collective bargaining, we are also vulnerable to particular groups of employees going to the courts and suing on the basis of what they believe is their right under the prevailing wage and most of the time they would win. Councilman Chappell: You should -see the problem and put it on the ballot. Mr. Schabarum: One guy voted once contrary to the point of view of the public he is under, at least -in the past three years I have been there. That is Ward on the last issue. Mayor Browne: What control do you have over the Chief Administrative Officer in this, in the way of hiring? Mr. Schabarum: Well, you have done that. You have also assumed the responsibility for mandated programs along with the administration of the programs. Certain workload standards are required as a result of labor negotiations or required by the State or required by the Feds. Therefore, as that work- load changes, generally up, it requires the bringi:ngc into being of people to perform the responsibilities.. Mayor Browne: Mr. Schabarum: Councilman Shearer: An analysis was not done properly at the time it was presented? Yes. In your recollection.;:. '.Pete, has the County ever said flat "no" to any in- crease, such as we did two or three years ago? No increase whatsoever? Mr. Schabarum: No. First of all, there would not be a majority of the Board supporting it because it hits in the face of the prevailing philosophy of the Board. Secondly, you stand the reality of a law suit and the possibility of a strike. So, there has been very little sentiment to move to that point. Councilman Shearer: The City of San Francisco has found the strike is inconvenient, but they are still managing. • Councilman Chappell: The people have not voted to eliminate the prevailing wage; they did in San Francisco. L CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976 Meeting with P. Schabarum Page Twelve Councilman Shearer: You never know until you try it. Mr. Schabarum: The City of Los Angeles has the • prevailing wage in an ordinance. In the final balance, the County job - position by position, all of our employees are not at the top of the list. The City of Los Angeles has any number of classifications well above the County. Long Beach has several above the County on a related, but not specific, classifications. The bus drivers in San Francisco got well above the salaries of. our RTD people. So, it is sort of a whip -saw that has been going on. We get our folks coming in and saying, "Look at my counter part in the City of Los Angeles." • Councilman Chappell: Long Beach is supporting the prevailing wage ballot measure. The Mayor, at the group meeting with Hayes, was trying to convince him to go that way, too. He has been invited to several meetings, but to no avail at this moment. Mr. Schabarum: of recommendations York City has had prevailing wage. it is going to be way. Fifthc Question: of the question. committee.. In the time frame of the last month, the City of Los. Angeles had that Ad Hoc Committee come forth with a series to prevent ever facing a Ed41.bmma:Jlike_; New to face. They recommended elimination of the If we get enough votes to get it on the ballot, funded in opposition by the unions all of the Use of Revenue Sharing Funds regarding Rehabilitation, Welfare and Health I am not sure I understand the direction The bill for :Mid=, alley;; Mental Health passed in Simply put, this comes back to the remarks I made a few minutes ago on the budget. There is going to be a very substantial reduction from the .total dollars. Again, in the whole budget package that the 'CAO has recommended, it includes no subsidy to the RTD, revenue -sharing, general revenue sharing funds for capital improvements. Based on the level of funding of this year about to conclude, that is over $50 million not anticipated to be funded next year. That gives another feel as to what we are going to be faced with trying to get something together. I hope you are not in similar straights in your budget. Mayor Browne: No, we areno stand not to to supplement t. We have use Federal dollars. taken the revenue sharing - 12 - CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976. Meeting with P. Schabarum Page Thirteen Mr. Schabarum: That is smart. That is the way we started out, but it got out of hand when a couple of'the Board members • started reacting to pressure groups who wanted funding. So, now we are behind the 8-ball. This is a year where we are down to the point where we just have no funds, and there is not much we.can do. We have the interns and residents group coming in next week. The other groups will continue to make their point. But, if you don't have it, you don't have it. Re the Board of Supervisors' reorgan- ization, there are twopprincipal recommendations that the Bar Association Committee put forward: (1) Create the office of an elected mayor, and (2) Expand the size of the Board. In the first instance, I indicated I would be supportive of putting it on the ballot providing there was appropriate language that would, in fact, make that individual truly the Administrative Office of County Government, which means it would take all of the administrative responsibilities of the Board with the mayor, leaving the Board as a legislative body. I don't know whether there will be three votes to put that kind of thing on the ballot. There are going to be a couple of Board workshops, one this morning, that will deal with the details. I would hope that there is a proposal that makes sense and will get on the ballot. • On the subject of increasing the size of the Board, I never have been and still am not enthusiastic about the idea. Councilman Chappell: Four or five.years ago I may not have supported increasing the size, but with the philosophy and thinking of the Board today, it is possible that certain areas could vote and get more people.like yourself sitting on the Board. If it went the other way, it could be worse, but it is one area where there could be hope. We need to get people more informed and interested in what actually happens down to the ground level, which we don't have today. I have sort of looked it over, and in some ways I have supported it because of that reasoning. Mr. Schabarum: My speculation is that those who would come on the Board as a result of the expansion would not be very close to my point of view. Councilman Chappell: You don't think so? It would depend • on how you split the County up. - 13 - CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976 Meeting with P. Schabarum Page Fourteen Mr. Schabarum:That is right, and how it is going to be split ' ''.: '; will be done by the Board as it is now made up, and no • lines will be involved to express the type of point of view that I express, but of the majority. Councilman Chappell,: There is a multitude of people who think this way, but have no way to say so. You might start getting those kindsof people out working the districts and picking the type of supervisor who would be more responsive to their problems. Mayor Browne: If the County mayor came into being, he would lift the budgetary factor off of the Supervisors' backs, and adding only one man to the existing Board could handle the situation. Councilman Tice: Ken Hahn sent out a document a month ago on the County mayor. In reading that thing, the concept was fine, but the way the department.was designed, it would be a weak mayor, and all of the work would fall back on the Board. Mr. S'ehabarum: I have a hunch that in the final analysis that is what Ken is looking for. It is not what I am going for It has to be a strong office, wholly administrative. This falls to one individual and he either rises or falls on his ability to administrate. Councilman Tice: Everything shifts back to the Supervisors for final decision. Mr. Schabarum: Staffing a new office, no the. -Supervisors' offices. There are pros and cons in the whole concept. It is going to cost more at the upper administration levels. feasible reduction in the staff in Yes, with one guy in this office, all of the administration role, from the point of view=:of.;` some, might be good,/°some others,might be bad. Make it much of the administrative activity and it is going to be less visible than currently the case, a major plus. You are not going to have five individuals calling a department head on a given day as to how to administer his responsibilities. We certainly appreciate the opportunity • to meet with you. These kind of meetings are very helpful to me. Too often the extent of our information is what we hear in the newspapers, which is not always complete. There is a lot of complicated stuff that we have to deal with. These are very - 14 - CITY COUNCIL May 5,1976 Meeting with P. Schabarum Page Fifteen helpful in setting the records straight. Atf-,this'�point in time, I think wet --,,can put ourselves in a position of being a little more on the offens.e on several things that are coming down the • line, i.e. the Coast.'tlne initiative, prevailing wage. Councilman Miller: What are the cost factors on the restructuring of the County? Hahn's report said it would cost less than the current structure? Mr. Schabarum: That Is an assumption that he makes without supportive evidence. The Bar Association Committee also made the same assumptionowithout evidence. On the other hand, I make the contrary assumption without any basis either. Simply looking at the State Legislature, and this measure would be to restructure the County in a manner like the State level, costs of both offices have gone up substantially over the last eight or nine years -far more than the gross national product, inflation, whatever. I don't see it as a realistic conclusion. Councilman Chappell: Last- night the paper printed the number ` of various staff members in each of the';dstricts; big difference in numbers. No ceiling on how many you can have in your office, on how much you can spend? • Mr. Schabarum: That is the case at the State Legisla- ture. The budgets of each group are not chal.l6nged. So, they keep going. I must acknowledge that is similarly the case at our Board. Councilman Chappell: You probably have the largest area in mileage, yet you have a far smaller... Mr. Schabarum: Baxter has the square miles... • Councilman Chappell: But, the population is about the same, and you are spending a couple hundred thousand dollars less than the other Supervisors. Mr. Schabarum: Thank you all very much. (The meeting with Mr. Schabarum concluded at 9:05 A.M. when Mr. Schabarum had to leave.) - 15 - CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976 Interviews/City Manager.: Page Sixteen INTERVIEWS/CITY MANAGER Mayor Browne: We have a decision to make. We have a list of applicants for interview on the City Manager's position. We .have to come up with interview dates. The weekends are pretty well taken up, so we will have to hold the interviews on week days. Councilman Chappell: It appears to be the only way we can do it within a time spans_. We are in a hurry.to get a City Manager. I'd almost say that the sooner you can callaa meeting, the better. Councilman Shearer: We only have half'of the picture. We may find•a situation where some of the applicants may have some very difficult travel times. We may have to meet more than once to interview five of them. Councilman Chappell: Let us adjourn this meeting.to a 5:00 or 4:30 P.M. meeting Thursday or Friday of this week. Once we get the names, the Mayor can instruct the City Manager to contact those people and check on their availability. If all five of them say that they can come anytime, then we can set the date, but there may be some who say no. They may have budget . situations in their own city and can only come a certain day. We might have to split it up. Motion made by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Tice to have ,�,!,n Ladj:ouined.,,meet.in'g at =5: 00 :.. P.M. on Monday, May 10, 1976, to set up City Manager interview dates. Councilman Shearer: I would also suggest that at the time when we meet to discuss a time to interview,,we lay down some mutually agreeable ground work. We should agree on basic questions. My thought is to have some common questions that we agree on, and se.t up an organized interview so we don't just go in. Other questions may develop or evolve from the basic underlying questions, but it would be well to have some sort of uniform approach for at least part of the interview, rather than all five of us cold. Councilmen Chappell and Councilman Tice agreed to amend the motion to include interview format • discussion. Motion carried. The meeting will be held in the City Manager's Conference Room. - 16 - CITY COUNCIL May 5, 1976 Adjournment Page Seventeen ADJOURNMENT Motiori•.rnade by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Tice to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 A.M. until May 10, • 1976, 5:00 P.M. in the City Manager's Conference Room. Motion carried. APPROVED: ATTEST: CITY CLERK • MAYOR