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09-24-1973 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA SEPTEMBER 24, 1973 The regular meeting of the Council called to order at 7:32 P.M. , in the West Covina Council Chambers by Mayor James Lloyd. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Chappell. The invocation was given by the Reverend Myrus L. Knutson, Christ Lutheran Church. ROLL CALL Present Mayor Lloyd; Councilmen: Chappell, Nichols, Shearer, Young Absent Others Present None George Aiassa, City Manager Lela Preston, City Clerk George Wakefield, City Attorney George Zimmerman, Public Service Dir. Leonard Eliot, Controller Batt. Chief Ora Short Len Larson, Administrative Analyst Jr. Gary Duvall, Administrative Assistant Bert Yamasaki, Community Redv. Coordinat Mike McDonnell, Staff Reporter - S. G. V.D. ' APPROVAL OF MINUTES • September 11, 1973 Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Nichols to approve the minutes. Councilman Shearer: A correction in the minutes of September 11, 1973. On page 8, bottom of the page, it reads "Charles Henderson" speaking in opposition; it should read, "Charles Anderson. " • Motion carried approving minutes as correct( CONSENT CALENDAR Mayor Lloyd explained the procedure of the Consent Calendar items and asked if there were any comments on any of the items by either the audience or the Council- men: 1. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS a) LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION Notices of Hearings re City of Covina COMMISSION Proposed Easterly Annexation No. 74 and Proposed Southerly Annexation No. 61 (Receive and file) b) LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION Notice of Hearing on Sphere of Influence COMMISSION Study III - September 26, 1973 at 9 A. M. (Refer to City Manager's Item 1/I-5) c) CITY OF PETALUMA Request for financial assistance from other cities, counties and public agencies in connection with litigation on City of Petaluma's PLAN for orderly, non - chaotic growth of its city. (Received and filed) d) WEST COVINA ELKS Request to solicit for Annual Charity LODGE NO. 1996 Drive. (Recommend approval subject to Staff review. ) s CITY COUNCIL Consent Calendar - Cont. e) WEST COVINA CITY EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION Page Two 9/24/73 Re certain salary adjustments (Refers to City Attorney Item G-7. ) f) PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT Request for exempt license to implement • INDUSTRIES, INC. a Business Cadet Club project in the city (selling of air fresheners by young people ages 10 to 21 years). (Refer to City Attorney and City Clerk. ) g) ALCOHOLISM COUNCIL Request permission to conduct fund OF EAST SAN GABRIEL AND raising activities and waiver of business POMONA VALLEYS license. (Recommend approval subject to Staff review. ) h) DALE L. INGRAM ON BEHALF OF ROBERT L. MAYER & MAYER CONSTRUCTION CO. 2. PLANNING COMMISSION Re offer to purchase all or part of future fire station site .located on the E/S/O Barranca Street and S/O Garvey Avenue. (Refer to Staff) a) SUMMARY OF ACTION September 8, 1973. (Accept and file) b) SUMMARY OF ACTION September 19, 1973. (Accept and file) 3. YOUTH ADVISORY COMMISSION a) SUMMARY OF ACTION September 7, 1973. (Receive and file) b) SUMMARY OF ACTION September 18, 1973. (Accept and file) • 4. ABC APPLICATIONS Chief of Police recommends NO PROTEST a) Edith J. Schmidt dba ALTADENA DRIVE-IN DAIRY 9735 E. Rosecrans Blvd. 310F S. Vincent Avenue Bellflower, California b) Frances Ann Martel dba CRISPIN'S HUT 1 500 Hickory Avenue 971 -A S. Glendora Avenue Torrance, California 5. CLAIM FOR DAMAGES FILED WITH CITY CLERK Andrew Ruiz Collision with city truck on 6/20/73. 1631 E. Merced Avenue (Deny and refer to City Attorney and West Covina, California Insurance Carrier. ) 6. CITY TREASURER'S REPORT Month of August 1973. (Receive and file) 7. PARADE PERMIT APPLICATION (Recommend approval subject to Staff Revie a) American Cancer Society Bike-a-Thon, October 27, 1973. b) Edgewood High School ASB Student Spirit Parade, October 26, 1973. • 8. TRAFFIC SAFETY MINUTES August 21, 1973. (Accept and file) Joe Woodford, Staff My interest is in item 1 -e of the Consent Representative for the California Calendar, which relates to item G-7 League of City Employee Associations of the agenda. I would like to state that I will be available if the Council has any questions concerning this item. We do recognize that there have been some changes made in the City Manager's recommendation on this item. We do feel our recom- mendation is the best possible one for the City and the Employee's Association. Thar. you. CITY COUNCIL Page Three Consent Calendar - cont. 9/24/73 Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor, one item that concerns me particular on the agenda, is item I -h, a letter inquiring as to the availability for purchase certain lands owned by the city. I would like to comment on the recom- mendation here that we refer to Staff. I should like to say that I hope not extensive research will be done on this matter before it comes back to the Council, because I have a very negative, overwhelmingly negative attitude about the proposal, and I think that it would probably be a waste of Staff time to go into it extensively until the matter has had the opportunity to be discussed by Council. I don't mean to infer that my feelings about it dominates the Council's attitude, but it is a contro- versial issue and I would not expect a great deal of Staff effort be involved in analyzing this proposal until it has been brought to Council for a policy decision. Other than that, Mayor, I have no comment. Mayor Lloyd: I would like to comment on one thing - In case someone thinks I have forgotten the presentation to Gary Roenicke which was .listed earlier on the agenda, I haven't. The reason I am holding off a little bit is that I was in hope that more people would arrive before we made the presentation. Excuse me, in case I misled somebody. Councilman Shearer: I was going to comment on the same item, perhaps slightly differently, but in the same vein as Councilman Nichols. I believe the last time this came before us, it was sort of a package deal where the result and purchase were tied in together. I made the comment then, and I'll • reiterate it now, I hope that if this does come to us, there are no conditions. In other words, that the zoning isn't conditioned upon the purchase, and the purchase isn't conditioned upon the zoning. I think the two matters should be, if at all possible, separated so that we don't have to get wrapped up in one trying to decide the other. Councilman Young: Well, strangely, Mr. Mayor, I too have a comment on the same item, but dif- ferent.from the other two comments. Namely, that I don't think it is necessary for the Council to act as far as the would-bc developer and purchaser of this land presenting his case to the City Staff which ultimately would filter up to the Council. I think all of these comments together probably dovetail in one fashion or another. So, I don't think we need a report back from the Staff because I don't think we would ever authorize the Staff partic- ularly to negotiate; we expect the Staff to do their job, and, of course, we receive their recommendations and we act upon those recommendations when they come in here, using the other criteria that we have. Mayor Lloyd: Thank you, Councilman Young. Councilman Chappell: One other item, Mayor, on this subject - it was with a great deal of thought that this land was picked for a future fire • station site. As I look at it now, I don't see anything that would change the need for that location as the site for the fire station. When we look at this thing, I would really have to be sold on the fact that we should sell this property to anyone for other than what we had determined the usage of it. Mayor Lloyd: Thank you, Councilman Chappell. Councilman Young: Mayor, this is rather picky-uny, but item 1-f states on the agenda, "Request for exempt license to implement a Business Cadet Club, " and maybe I just missed it, but does it say anywhere in the request that is for an exempt license? For that matter, what is an exempt license; CITY COUNCIL Consent Calendar - cont. Mr. Aiassa: Lela Preston: • Councilman Young: Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Young: Page Four 9/24/73 Yes, they don't pay the fee. They are non-profit. Where does it say here that it is exempt? He is asking for the exemption, Council- man Young. He is? Oh, does that mean - that's what he means. Okay. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer, that Consent Calendar item 1 through 8 be approved. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None PRESENTATION Mayor Lloyd presented Gary Roenicke a commendation plaque on behalf of the Councilmen and the City of West Covina. This presentation was made in ac- cordance with Resolution No. 4762 for Gary's outstanding achievements in athletics, particularly baseball. • GENERAL AGENDA ITEMS PUBLIC WORKS EXECUTION OF QUITCLAIM LOCATION: Between Cameron Avenue DEED FOR STORM DRAIN and Cortez Street, adjacent to and PURPOSES - UNITED METHODIST easterly of Azusa Avenue. CHURCH - W. C. Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Zimmerman, Mayor, and members of the City Council, this is a question of releasing a piece of land no .longer needed for storm drain purposes. Staff recommends that the City Council approve the resolution before you. RESOLUTION NO. 4788 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: ''A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A CORPORATION QUITCLAIM DEED FOR STORM DRAIN PURPOSES AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF. • Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young and carried, to waive further reading of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman 'Young to adopt said Yesolut. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None CITY COUNCIL Public Works - cont. Page Five 9124/73 ACCEPTING A GRANT OF EASEMENT FOR SOTRM DRAIN PURPOSES - J. C. PARTISE LOCATION: Northerly of San Bernardino Freeway at the southerly terminus of Shadyvale Avenue Mr. Aiassa: Mayor, members of the City Council, • this particular storm drain was built in the middle 1950's; it has been main- tained by the City, but has never been dedicated to the City. The property owner involved would like to dedicate it to the City in perpetuity. The Staff is recom- mending acceptance of it. RESOLUTION NO. 4789 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIi OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AC- CEPTING A GRANT OF EASEMENT EXECUTED BY JOSEPH CHARLES PARTISE AND JOYCE M. PARTISE FOR STORM DRAIN PURPOSES AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF. Councilman Young: One question, Mr. Mayor, I assume that this resolution, and the one previous, and other resolutions recommended by the City Staff are approved as a matter of course by the City Attorney. Mr. Wakefield: • Councilman Young. Mr. Wakefield: Mayor Lloyd: Yes they are. I just didn't note that on the material here. Mr. Wakefield would tell us if he disapproves or not; is that correct? That is correct. He would not allow it on the agenda. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young and carried to waive further reading of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Nichols to adopt said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None VACATION OF ADDITIONAL LOCATION: Batelaan Avenue between PORTION OF BATELAAN vacated Sylvan Avenue and West Covina AVENUE Parkway • Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Mayor, members of the City Council, this is in accord with the development by the Redevelopment Agency and has been requested by them. The Staff again recommends that this portion of Batelaan Avenue near the Howard M side be vacated. CITY COUNCIL Public Works - cont. Page Six 9/24/73 • • 11 RESOLUTION NO. 4790 ADOPTION The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNC OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ORDERING THE VACATION OF AN ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC PORTION OF BATELAAN AVENUE. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Chappell and carried to waive further reading of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Nichols to adopt said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows. AYES: NOES: ABSENT: PUBLIC HEARINGS None Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young None None RECREATION AND PARKS COMMISSION PERSONNEL BOARD HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION CITY ATTORNEY ORDINANCE NO. 1223 ADOPTED No meeting. No meeting. No meeting The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCII OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE PROVISIONS OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE UNIFORM CITY SALES AND USE TAX. " Mr. Wakefield: This ordinance is designed to conform to the provisions of our Municipal Code to anges in the state law le to Bradley Burns Uniform Sales and Use Tax.chThe amendments becomepeffe licative the first of January 1974. The effect of the amendments is to remove certain exemptions from the sales tax which have been heretofore enjoyed by utilities. The State Law provided that when the State Board of Equalization reached a 25 percent'assessment ratio for utility purposes that these sections of the revenue and taxation code would become effective. The State Board of Equalization is for the first time this year assessing utility property at the 25 percent ratio. So, the purpose of this ordinance is simply to conform our provisions to the state law. ORDINANCE NO. 1224 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVIN AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 1224 AND APPROVING A PROPOSED REVISED LEASE OF PARKING FACILITIES FROM THE PARKING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA. " Mr. Wakefield: This ordinance is designed to permit a correction in the original lease between the parking authority y of West Covina which has to be approved by ordinance. The firstd draft ofethe t ease that was originally approved did not contain a clear termination date and Council requested revision of the .lease and the amendment to the ordinance to correspond. CITY COUNCIL City Attorney - cont. Page Seven 9/24/73 • • • Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer and carried to waiv further reading of the body of the ordinances. Councilman Young: Which parking facility does this relate to - the one completed, or the one that is about to be constructed? . Mr. Wakefield: This relates to the one in Phase I of the Central Business District, not to our own. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer to approve said ordinances. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None ORDINANCE NO. 1226 ADOPTED Mr. Wakefield: The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUN( OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES (Zone Change Application No. 486 - Far West Managment Corporation). LOCATION: Southwest corner of Azusa and Cameron Avenues This is an ordinance for adoption, Mr. Mayor. It was introduced at your last meeting. Motion made by Councilman Shearer and seconded by Councilman Nichols and carried to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance. Motion by Councilman Young and seconded by Councilman Shearer to adopt said ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None ORDINANCE NO. 1227 ADOPTED ORDINANCE NO' 1228 ADOPTED d The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNC OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING SECTION 3190 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO AN INCREASE IN MAXIMUM SPEED LIMITS. (Morganfield Avenue from Hollingworth Street to Forecastel Avenue - 30 miles per hour). " "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNC OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING SECTION 3191 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO A DECREASE IN MAXI- MUM SPEED LIMITS. (Morganfie.ld Avenue from Valley Blvd. to Hollingwor Street - 30 miles per hour)" CITY COUNCIL Page Eight City Attorney - cont. 9/24/73 • • • Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young and carried to wai-, further reading of the said ordinances. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Nichols to adopt said ordinances. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NO. 4791 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNC OF THE CITY OF WEST ,COVINA AP. - PROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE STATE OF CALIFORN: AND THE CITY OF WEST COVINA FOF THE ADMINISTRATION OF LOCAL SALES AND USE TAX. " Mr. Wakefield: Mr. Mayor, just a word of explanation with reference to this - the State Board Equalization has requested that the cities and counties of California enter into new contracts for the administration of local use tax. The only change in the existing procedure which the contract provides for is to authorize the State Board of Equalization,. upon the request of an individual city, to deposit that city's allocation of sales taxes directly into a Sacramento branch of a bank so that the distribution of the tax may be expedited. The procedure is optional with each individual city. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer and carried to waive further reading of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer to adopt said resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NO. 4792 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNC OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 1277 RELATING TO THE SALARY RANGE APPLICABLE TO CERTAIN CLASSES OF POSITIONS. (Building Maint. Leadman, Carpenter, Communications Technician, Building Regulations Clerk) Mr. Wakefield: This is the resolution which has been referred to earlier this evening, and is involved in subject matter of the West Covina City Employee's Assocation communication which was on your consen calendar. Motion made by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Young, and carried to hold Resolution 4792 over to the City Manager's agenda. CITY COUNCIL City Attorney - cont. . Page Nine 9/24/73 U • U RESOLUTION NO. 4793 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNC OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AC- CEPTING A GRANT DEED EXECUTED BY LOUIS MOHNIKE JR. AND ELSIE BATELAAN AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF. (LOCATIO West Covina Parkway between Batelaan Avenue and Sunset Avenue) Mr. Wakefield: The reason for this additional grant dee covering an easement that had been previously granted to the City, is that the description in the original easement did not close. Apparently Mr. Mohnike is in the process of attempting to sell the property, and the title company has as- serted that the wandering easement effects the entire parcel of property. This is simply to clear up that uncertainty in the description. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer and carried to waive further reading of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer to adopt said resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES:, Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NO. 4794 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY. COUNC OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA RE- PEALING RESOLUTION 4777 AMENDII\ RESOLUTION NO. 1277 RELATING TO THE CLASSIFICATION AND COMPEN- SATION OF POSITIONS WITHIN THE WEST COVINA CITY SERVICE, ESTAB LISHING HOURS OF WORK, ATTENDAI LEAVES OF ABSENCE AND OTHER RELATED MATTERS. " Mr. Wakefield: In explanation, Mr. Mayor and member of the City Council, at the time action was taken by the City Council to imple- ment the memoranda of understanding that had been entered into with the three employee associations, two resolutions were adopted; one which provided for those salary adjustments and other provisions which were to be effective July 1; and the second resolution was designed to implement those changes which were to be effective next January 1. In the preparation of the attachment to the first resolution, there was a provision which provided that certain changes would be effective January 1, consequently, the second resolution became unnecessary, and we now have a conflict. The purpose of this resolution is simply to repeal the second resolution and obviate any question about the action that was taken. Councilman Nichols: Sounds like a tremendous tribute to the legal profession, Mr. Wakefield. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Chappell, to adopt said resolution. Carried on roll call vote as follows: CITY COUNCIL Page Ten City Attorney - cont. 9/24/73 AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None ORAL COMMUNICATIONS • Mayor Lloyd: We will now go to Oral Communication Ei since it is past the hour of 8:00. If there is anyone who wishes to speak before the Council on any subject, we will give you three minutes; and, if you need more, we will afford you that opportunity on consent of the Council. Is there anyone who wishes to address the Council at this time: Frank Morgan We did have a petition among the 119 Tollan neighbors in the neighborhood for stop West Covina, Calif. signs at Tolland and where Garvey comes into Tollan. We would .like something done because it is a hazard. We do have beaux corps of children. In fact, I have a six year old daughter that is just learning to ride a bicycle, plus goodness knows how many more; and they are using it for a race track. - In fact, I have a hub cap in my garage right now, and there's - I can show you on the curb right there from Garvey onto Tollan, where a car came around two weeks ago or so - why it didn't roll over on the lawn, I don't know - but it hit the curb, left a 20 foot skid mark on the curb, and lost his hub cap. My oldest son, Jim Morgan, was coming down the street in my pickup and happened to see it - about a thousand feet away or so. H(� just says, "Well, wreck me. " And, he. just pulled out and made the guy come to a complete stop. This is ridiculous around here. Before • they started the freeway, it was a straight through street and we didn't have that traffic. Now we are having that traffic because they blocked it off there between Tollan and Lark Ellen. We need stop signs or we need something done. It's just a terrible thing. Mayor Lloyd: Is there anyone else who would like to speak? Sandra Idleman The Traffic Committee looked into 123 N. Tollan this matter and they denied that we West Covina, Calif. needed a stop sign, but they are more the technical part that have checked into it with the data and everything. We're just people that live there - that see what is going on every day, that have small children involved, and that have just the knowledge that we see what goes on everyday. The people that come out from the Traffic Committee, they don't see this every day as we do. Also, the traffic that comes around this corner is from apartment dwellers. They are all young people. They don't have children involved themselves. There are more people living in that section of the block than, you know, in a normal neighborhood. So, we have a .lot more traffic. We need a stop sign desparately. Mayor Lloyd: Is there anyone else who would like to . speak to the Council? Any comment from the Council on that? Councilman Young: Mr. Mayor, oh - maybe there is another gentlemen who would like to speak here. Mayor Lloyd: Are you speaking on the same subject? Mr. Charles Bennett voiced (from the audience) his concurrence with the previous two guests. CITY COUNCIL Page Eleven Oral Communications - cont. 9/24/73 Lindy Wynn I live on the south side of Mardina. 1222 E. Mardina Last year, about this time, we had West Covina, Calif. sidewalks put in - they put them in. Now, there is no stop sign there, and • there is no crosswalk for people walking down from the apartments. They cross onto these sidewalks and they are jeopardizing their lives every time they cross because this curve is so sharp and cars come around there. I almost got hit myself, and I'm an adult. There are no crosswalks there, there is nothing for us to cross with. There is no stop sign and if a child had been out in the street, he could not have moved that fast. So, we do need them. Mayor Lloyd: Thank you. on any other discussion. Anyone else wish to speak subject? Okay, Council Councilman. Young: Well, Mr. Mayor, I don't know if these people realize it or not, this matter was on the Consent Calendar and the recommendation there was that the stop sign request be denied, that certain improvements be made in the street markings, and that the Police Depart ment be requested to intensify speed limit enforcement in the area. I don't know if you people had a chance, to see those recommendations or not. The Mayor aske for comments from the audience before we voted on this, as to any items, but it is hardly fair to expect people to know that who don't have the material we have and who aren't here every week to see what goes on. • I had a thought on it before it came up, and, of course, I did not express it, but there is a line in this letter that we got; it says, "We feel that something has to be done in this area to prevent tragedy, why wait for the accident statistics? " I think that the point made by, I believe, Mrs. Idleman, that the traffic study is somewhat based on cold statistics, these people don't go out there and sit for a week or two, or a month or two, has a lot of merit. I for one would like to suggest that we recend our action on item 3 of the Traffic Committee Report; recend that and hold it over to enable ourselves to go out and .look at it. I haven't gone out and looked at it; maybe Councilman Shearer has - he makes a habit of doing a good deal of that, which is fine. But it could be, you see, that we might be persuaded, if we spend a little time in the neighborhood, that something should be done. I worry just a little bit about relying upon intensified speed limit enforcement in the area when we have a city as .large as we have, with as few policemen and patrol cars as we have to patrol it. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Nicholls,. to have the action on item 3 of the Traffic Committee Report recended, and the matter held over for further appropriate study. • Councilman Nichols: Most of the data that have been present here in the study are antiquated becauE they are involved with eras and times and situations that predate the present traffic situation in that -area. I agree therefore that some additional look at this would be in order. I think when our people come forward to us and cite accident statistics going back 2, 3, and 4 years, on a stretch that has been changed substantially for one reason or another in the last few months, the result is improper presentation in this area. CITY COUNCIL. Page Twelve Oral Communications - cont. 9/24/73 The only other comment that I want to make is that for years, and years, and years, l have read these recommendat which say, "recommend that Police Department be requested to intensify speed limit enforcement", and I really do think that is a cop -out. I think Staff knows i- and I think we know it. Because I think these kinds of intensification are very • sporatic, and do not answer, really, the problem. So, either the problem exist, - and needs help, or it doesn't exist and doesn't need it. I think all of this has to be independent of any great effort to intensify enforcement. So, therefore, because statistics are old, times have changed, and recommendations are non -satisfactory in the totality, I think that the motion was in order, and I seconded it. Councilman Shearer: I am going to take somewhat a differe: approach than Councilman Nichols. I don't think that the data presented here is necessarily old. The street survey was taken in August, 1973. The report does not indicate when the traffic count was taken; it merely states that recent traffic counts were taken. If these were prior to the present configuratio; then I would have to agree. I'm not sure that I see much to be gained by referring this back to Staff. I made this comment before, there are times, I think, when this type of action will merely result in the same recom- mendation. Because, gain, Staff is making their recommendation, based on their professional*appraisal of the traffic situation. This is what I hope they do; and this is what I hope they will continue to do. If there is going to be an over- turning of Staff's recommendation, it is going to have to be because Council evaluates the situation and decides that there are factors which override those engineering factors in this case, and we, in our judgment, say "Yes, there will be a stop sign. " Much the same as in the intersection at Hollingworth and Santos down in the Galaxy Tract. I believe I stated that at the time, that my decision was because a young 13 year old boy came up on a bicycle and said, "You know, the City Council ought to do something here because this is a bad intersection." And, I said to myself, "You know, if a 13 year old boy could come to that .conclusion not knowing who I was, that maybe this was the place where mercy, justice, or whatever needs to be put in. " I don't think it would be fair to refer this back to Staff. I think it would be fair to hold it over and suggest that each Councilman go out and observe it themselves, and make up their own mind; and, not expect Staff to come back with a recommendation that we say, "Okay, now we will agree with that one. " I hope we never get to that point. Councilman Nichols: I understand the validity of what the Councilman has said, but I would reiterate that the survey that has been made is inaccurate; it is dated; and, it is not current. It is correct that a traffic count was made but on the next page of the study, the weight of the recom- mendation is at least 50 percent influenced by listings of accidents at that inter- section and these listings bo back through the years '71, '72, and 173, and they are totally invalid in terms of current conditions because of the change of circum stances. I don't see how we can get a Staff recommendation for a decision based upon survey data that are outmoded; and, if 50 percent are outmoded of these data, then all of them must be. For that reason, I really feel that we ought to look at this in terms of what facts are available to us. Maybe we shouldn't do an - thing now; maybe we should all run up and look at it. I intend to, hopefully. All I said was that I think perhaps we haven't given it all we should have in terms of study and survey. CITY COUNCIL Page Thirteen Oral Communications - cont. s 9 / 24 / 7 3 Mayor Lloyd: I have a simple formula. If any mother.has a child, that she feels the child is in danger, and she feels a crosswalk will help, you are going to get my vote. I would prefer that we go • ahead and put up a stop sign. You can always take stop signs down. You provid a little mental comfort, if you will, if for no other reason than it relieves the pressure on the family. My youngster faced that situation, and I note that we finally have a guard rail over on Cortez, to the many years my youngster walkec to school, and I am pleased to see that go in. But, it didn't do any good, and I know my wife worried about him. I think we arrive at a point where we have to trade off certain values. In our society, the pressures of our society are so strong, anyhow, in our very complex automobile world, that if someone needs a stop sign or some sort of controlling_ device such as we have on Grand (and the people are very happy with it and I don't think it stopped all the traffic), I think we ought to put the stop sign in. I think we ought to do it now. I don't think we are going to offend anybody. I am not saying in any way that Mr. Thom and his people have failed; I'm not disagreeing with what they say, I'm sure they are right. But, I do know that in the minds of these people, they want relief. A stop sign is not that big a deal as far as giving somebody a little mental piece of mind. I think that is what we are here to do, and I would urge that we either have a substitute motion or we vote this down, and have another motion which says, "Let's give them a stop sign. " If indeed that it is an onerous stop sign, we can always take it out. Meanwhile, we have solved the problem. That's wha- I would urge this Council to do. • Councilman Chappell: There are two stop signs. Are you talking about both of them? Mayor Lloyd: Yes, I am talking about both of them. Councilman Young: Well, Mr. Mayor, it's very difficult to disagree with you, and I don't really disagree with you. But, I think the appropriate action would be for us to take our own personal look and the Staff to take another look at it, and consider it at our next meeting. Mayor Lloyd: Oh, I really do believe that if you want to take a look, that would be fine. But,. I think that I agree with Councilman Shearer on this. The Staff has already given the best on this. I really don't think that they are going to give us another statement. They have given us the best of their professional advise. What I have suggested really goes beyond that, but should you and all the rest go and look at it, I have no objection to that whatsoever. Councilman Young: You know we don't really disagree • with each other - we want to do it now or wait two weeks, and I sit here and tremble at the thought of somebody getting hurt as a result of the two week delay. I am not inclined, lightly, or glibly, without going out and looking myself, to overturn a Staff recommendation. We have a Staff, a profes- sional staff, and I think they are an excellent Staff; and, we have policy consider- ations which go beyond what we expect of the Staff, and we should make our personal determination on personal observation. I would like that opportunity. • • • CITY COUNCIL Page Fourteen Oral Communication - cont. 9/24/73 I think most of all it's a good demonstration - this entire discussion, of why people should come down to City Council meetings and speak up on issues that concern them. This action had routinely passed us, and would be gone if these people hadn't taken the trouble to come down here say what they had on their minds. I would like to have a look at it myself. Councilman Nichols: Councilman Young: us a chance to .look at it, as I recall. The motion was to refer it back to Staff, was it not? Well, I forget what exactly I said in my motion, but the intent was to deft the matter for a couple weeks and gi- Councilman Nichols: That was the intent of the motion, an the intent of the second because I concurred as soon as the issue came up. Obviously, the Council is saying, well, we are not really sure Staff recom mendation is one politically with the Council - one we are prepared to live with. It's a political decision from there on. We are not experts. Yet, because we are accountable on the other hand, I think we are entitled to go out and look at it I don't think that to take the position that, well, if you delay for two weeks you create a horrendous sin because if the Council is put into a position where it ha to act immediately upon any request from the public, and can't delay, then it's not acting judiciously at all. Councilman Chappell: Councilman Nichols: Councilman Chappell: In the delaying, you don't mean that we should not do the striping and things like that -- Oh no, no, no. We should do that right now because that is part of the recommendation, and should go on with right now. Councilman Nichols: What I would like to do is go out and look at it. And, if I am going to con back and take it upon myself to start assigning intersections where the professional Staff has said no about, then I vc and make a conclusion that might be totally erroneous, but one that I am con- vinced is not. I don't have that kind of input now, so I'm for putting this off for two weeks; letting each of us take a look at it; letting the action be impleme) that has all ready been implemented; and, then coming back and each of us with our brilliant wisdom, deciding what is in the best interest. Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Nichols: I thought that our wisdom was infinit Did I say - well, brilliant and infinit Mayor Lloyd: Well, as I understand the motion, it is for holding it off for two weeks, while we get a chance to look at it and in reality, we are not sending it back to Staff, we are just holding it in abeyance ourselves. Councilman Nichols: Yes, but of course, if the Staff has further input, I'm sure it will be welcome. CITY COUNCIL Oral Communications - cont. Page Fifteen 9/24/73 Mayor Lloyd: the interim, right. • Councilman Nichols: Yes, indeed it will. It is with the intent that recommendations up to the stop sign will be implemented in Right. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Nichols and carried to have the action on item 3 of the Traffic Committee Report recended, with the intentions as discussed by Council, and the matter held over for further ap- propriate study. The City Council Meeting was recessed in order to convene the Redevelopment Agency, special agenda, and the Parking Authority of the City of West Covina, regular meeting. Council reconvened at 9:15 P.M. CITY MANAGER Councilman Young: Mayor Lloyd: let us take that item up. Mr. Mayor, not a point of order, but a point of reminder that one item has been held over to this agenda. Oh, that's right. Thank you very much, I appreciate it. That was the resolution on salary ranges; • Mr. Aiassa: Yes, City Council, Mr. Mayor, we have submitted to you a written report, and I would urge you to ask any questions the Council has on this presentation. Councilman Nichols: I asked that this be held over because it was an item brought up by the City Manager, and I didn't think it should be acted upon as a routine item on the City Attorney's agenda. I felt that Council comments, or any comments the Staff should desire to make, should come under the City Manager's agenda. And, I was aware also, Councilman Shearer, of your interest on this item and thought perhaps you might have'some additional comments. Councilman Shearer: We have two reports, both rather extensive, - one from Staff, and one from CLOCEA. There are a lot of numbers, and a .lot of figures, and some inferences to what motivated some people to do certain things. Unfortunately, I don't have the wisdom of Solomon to be able to dissect fact from opinion in all cases, so I have to use the dull tool that I have. • There is an inference made that the recommendation of Staff was intended to do something with regard to the Employe Association. I guess the statistician, if he looked at the numbers, could probably come up with that conclusion; however, I am not a statistician. I think that if we were to, as a Council, reverse that, we could just as well be accused of attemptii to encourage membership in the Employee Association. And, I don't want to be accused of either one because I think that is a matter of where the employees havr to make up their own mind. I will say this, I don't believe that - I can't put m,% finger on it exactly, but there was a quote made that one employee supposedly CITY COUNCIL City Manager - cont. Page Sixteen 9/24/73 made the statement, "Why don,t I drop out of the association? I can do better on my own with the City Manager. " I think that is a gross misinterpretation of the facts that we have here. I am sure that the employees, by banding together, and presenting their case collectively, stand to gain much more than they would • if they did it on an individual basis. I don't know, I can't look into the minds of everyone and say, "What is your motive for doing this? " I do not think there is any clearcut effort by management to breakup the Employee Association. You can look at the facts - the figures, rather, and come up with any conclusion that you wish. I will vote to support the City Manager recommendation, with the statement that as far as I am concerned, I would encourage the employees to work together for the good of the employees. I think in today's climate there is a definite need for this type of action. And, I don't want my vote tonight to be interpreted in any way on the part of the employees' to be in favor of union busting or, since they do not call themselves a union, - organization busting,or whatever you want.. However, I feel that this is a good move, and it should be, encourage instead of discouraged. Councilman Nichols: Well, I think that Councilman Shearer has said all that can be possibly said, and I support his viewpoint and am ready for the vote.. • Councilman Young: I think that is correct, too, Mr. Mayo Not to guild the lily, but state, in perhaps a little bit different terminology, if I, felt the City Management was engaged in some sort of activity which would be called a union busting, or association busting activity, I would feel that he should be severely repremanded, if not discharged. I don't approve or disapprove, I am committed to follow the law; and, these people are the Employee Association, the organizations that they might affiliate themselves with .like CLOCEA, and these are all established by the Legislature, the law of the land. I think that sooner every municipality operates within the confines of the law in good faith, the sooner that we are going to have completely smooth operations. I am very sorry that this slight mis- understanding has developed because I think at this point, the differences, if any, are relatively slight. The differences that appear have been explained to my satisfaction as being matters based upon merit, and not upon reward or any kind of punitive action whatsoever. If it is ever established to my satisfaction to the contrary, then I would be one of the first to hop on City Management with vigor and venum because I just believe that the good faith generally demonstrated this year has set a good tone for the future - and for future negotiations. I don't want to see that disturbed. I would like .for City Management to continue operating that way, the Council to continue operating that way, and for the • associations to continue their operations in the same good faith fashion. With that I am prepared to support the recommendation that has been made. If there is. an adjustment, if someone has over adjusted in some fashion, I am sure this will all be corrected, leveled off in another year. Mayor Lloyd: I concur with the remarks that have been made. I think that this Council has acted in extremely good faith certainly to the employees and Mr. Woodford. We have really tried very hard, and in no way has any member tried to discourage any person, regardless of the CITY COUNCIL Page Seventeen City Manger - Cont. 9/24/73 0 0 n U organization, from involving themselves in the bargaining process. As a matter of fact, we have done all we could to encourage the administration to have a smooth, orderly flow in that process. It is very important to us, and it is very important to you, too; there is no doubt in my mind about that. I think we have done a good job on the thing. And, certainly, at any time that there is any doubt in your minds - both of you, and you wish to make any presentation as far as this Council is concerned, in the normal process, you are not only welcome, but we urge you to do so. It is through this type of discussion that we are able to do the job that we are here to do, which is to serve the people of this community. A happy organization, such as yours, - in fact, all the organizations, is important to that function of service to the community. RESOLUTION NO. 4795 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 1277 RELATING TO THE SALARY RANGE APPLICABLE TO CERTAIN CLASSES OF POSITIONS. (Building Maint. Leadman, Carpenter, Com- munications Technician Building Regulations Clerk) Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young and carried to waive further reading of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young to adopt said resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None Councilman Shearer: This is a great afterthought, but it is easy to coach after the game is over. I would encourage Staff, and I am sure it goes without saying, but I'd better say it anyway, to try to avoid this type of thing next year. By that, I mean coming in piecemeal. I am sure it was not intended to be this way; I am sure all the Council thought they had signed or approved the memorandum with the understanding that this covered all the employees; then, at the next meeting, here comes another one again.. I trust that next year we can avoid this type of a situation and do it all together in one package. CITY OF GLENDALE'S "DAYS OF VERDUGOS" PARADE • Mr. Aiassa: This is the City of Glendale's invitation to participate in the "Days of Verdugos" Parade, and the Staff report. Councilman Shearer: to transport it over there? I move we authorize -- what, before I do that - what is the cost? Is there any, other than the time of the man Mr. Aiassa: Well, we have arranged this with most of the cities that we usually use our' own vehicle. • • CITY COUNCIL City Manager - cont. Councilman Shearer: Mr. Aiassa: Page Eighteen What does it cost? Oh, dollars and cents. Our acting Fire Chief is here, Max Short. Chief Short: Basically, I have talked with Ken Larson, and what is necessary is to provide transportation for the old La Franz, which can be handled by City personnel and the Street Department, and possibly providing lunch which will be no more than ten to fifteen dollars. Mayor Lloyd: Chief Short: Mr. Aiassa: Councilman Young: Councilman Nichols: Councilman Young: conflicts with the junket in San Francisco. Councilman Nichols: Chief Short: Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Young: is what I am really saying. In other words, it is going to cost us fuel for the La Franz, plus lunch, so we are looking at what - fifteen bucks? Probably $15. $25 at the most. Just a question, Mr. Mayor. I notice they want the mayor and his wife to ride in the parade. It says "Mayor and City Council". I know, I was going to suggest that the Mayor and his wife would be sufficient. I was wondering if this It does appear that the Mayor will be represented by a La Franz Fire Truck vintage 19 - what? That's close to my age, but I'm a . little younger than that. I'm willing for the Fire Truck to go, and the Mayor and his wife to go, but I'm not willing to go myself; this Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer for the La.Franz Fire Truck to be in the City of Glendale's "Days of the Verdugos" Parade, the cost not to exceed $25. 00. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None PARAMEDICS Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Mayor, at the Council's request at the last meeting, we continued to give you more informative informatior. There is a Paramedic Report and Program as outlined by the Staff. I just wonder if the Council had an opportunity to review it in detail. There is a substantial amount of data. If there are any comments or questions, I have a Staff represent ative here to answer any of the questions that Council might have. As you know, CITY COUNCIL Page Nineteen City Manager - cont. 9 / 24 / 7 3 date which they requested, so now it's up to Council what they would like to do with it. Councilman Nichols: I have read it; I have studied it; I have digested it, and I believe that . the recommendation on page 4 of the Report is a valid recommendation. I believe that it is the most economic and most efficient method available to us. I think it provides services in keeping with the expectations of our community. Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Young to accept the Paramedics program as recommended. Councilman Young: I hardily agree with the motion. My question is - does this recom- mendation include the cost of the training program itself, or is that additional? Chief Short: Councilmen, Mr. Mayor, the actual training of the Paramedics, there is no cost for that. What we will be doing is covering some of the positions and the relative sick time and vacation time that would be used during the period of time that these nine people will be gone to school. Councilman Young: Is the training program itself something that involves fees and • costs, and if so, are they of a relatively minor nature? Chief Short: There was a cost of, I believe, $980. 00 per candidate up till mid- year. Then the law was changed to where the county for any municipal agencies could defer this payment. The county is absorbing the cost of the training at this time. Councilman Young: One further question - this program that is recommended, do you think it could be conveniently expanded to include other local area municipalities in the event they were willing to come in and share, or do you feel that this is a program that is just a program for West Covina and if they wanted to participate, they would have to have additional manpower? Chief Short: Yes, the recommendation that I have made could be utilized for Covina and Azusa. The preliminary meetings that were held with the Staff of the other cities did indicate one full Paramedic unit for West Covina, and basically, one full Paramedic unit for • Azusa and Covina. So, we could blend in without any additional cost. Councilman Young: In fact, if we did blend in, do you feel it might result in a reduction of our own costs, as well as a good service at less cost than going it alone for neighborning communities? Chief Short: This could be possible because we a training nine people. The discussio: that were held with the other cities was for a total of fifteen personnel. Therefore, the three relief men that we h� could be utilized for the other cities, thus cutting the cost of the overall oper- ation. CITY COUNCIL Page Twenty City Manager - cont. 9/24/73 • • Councilman Young: Thank you very much. Councilman Shearer: Chief Short, I see you are recom- mending the addition of three - I believe if I am reading your recom- mendation correctly, new apprentice firemen. I take it then, that in order to have round-the-clock coverage, that -some of the Paramedics might be called onto double duty; in other words, they might be regular fire coverage, plus the Paramedics. Or, how else then would you have nine men available with the only hiring of three additional people. Chief Short: All right. What I have proposed is to have two Paramedics on duty each day, which provides a total of six. You have to provide relief for these Paramedics; if one is sick, you have to fill in. You cannot run a Paramedic unit with one Paramedic and one Fireman, for example. So, we have made this proposal. It does cut down the existing manpower at Fire Station 1, and Fire Station 2 where there are four fire- fighting members. It does give us an additional personnel on the rescue which would be utilized at a fire. We would use all the Paramedic personnel under all operations. If a first aid call.did come in, they would do as we presently do; they would dispatch Rescue or the Paramedic unit for that emergency. So they would be doing double duty, yes sir. Councilman Shearer: Has this proposal been presented to, or discussed with the Fire Fighters Association? Chief Short: Yes, I'm glad you brought that up. There were two meetings that have been held with the Teamsters Union - Jim Belso, the Teamsters representative, Gary Duvall from the City Manager's Staff, and the Staff Fire Department representatives of the As- sociation. They went over the revised apprentice standards. The union did send a proposal to the City Manager's office which I in turn revised and dis- cussed with the union representative, and they are in agreement with the new, standards. I had a meeting with Charles Bond, the Chief Steward, and Chief Swartz last Thursday, and generally outlined what the changes were, and he did agree with them. Councilman Shearer: I have one further question. The cost, are we talking about - I'm a little confused on the second page of the report, whether it is the number 2 option, or the number 3 option that we are talking about. Chief Short: We are talking about the number 2 option. • Councilman Shearer: Number 2 option. $59, 000 for the first year, $75, 000 for the succe- eding years. Chief Short: Yes sir. There are two items that you should be aware of, that I'd like to bring out. In the cost breakdown of the very last page of your report, there was reference to the apprentice being assigned Salary No. 22A, and that should be 22. It is a mistake to have the "A" on the classification number. All the other documents do show salary classification 2 CITY COUNCIL Page Twenty -One City Manager - cont. 9/24/73 The other item that I would .like to have clarified is that the $59, 000 does not include an ambulance, if the Council does decide to provide the ambulance service. Councilman Shearer: I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but • I believe the last time that this was dis- cussed, a figure of $120, 000 - con- siderably more than this, was given to us. Can you account for the great difference in estimate and this one which is considerably less? Chief Short: I did not give those figures, but I think it is accountable in this manner. The way I broke the report down into two budgets, I think accounts for it, because the training period did lap over into the '74 - '75 budget. If you took those costs for that five month period, it would be probably close to $100, 000. But, those figures do not come from the Fire Department. Councilman Chappell: Yes, I did have one question on this ambulance service. It is not our . thinking is it, to have an ambulance service on every call - is it just on special calls, or how is this going to function? Right now,you know we have a private ambulance carrier in the city; Crippen, I believe is operating it now. Would they still be in operation, or would this eliminate them? Chief Short: I would assume they would still be in operation. This would be only for • emergency response when we were called by the Police Department or Paramedics and had to transport. Councilman Chappell: Fine. That is as it should be. Councilman Shearer: This is, I think an important issue, so, bear with me. You say the Paramedics would respond when called by the Police. Now, (this is something I asked some time ago, it's sort of an operational briefing) what happens if we had an on -going Paramedic program, and I had a heart attack, or what appears to my wife to be a heart attack. Can she call in and get a Paramedic unit, or does first a Police Officer have to respond, look and say, "Yeah, he has had a heart attack, " and call for the Paramedic unit? Chief Short: Okay. To answer that, we have the procedure established with the Com- munications Department that any call of first aid, whether it be an injury, accident or a call for an ambulance, the Fire Department will respond and they will notify the Police dispatcher and vice -versa. They are in the same room, and they do communicate with each other. We auto- matically respond on any call. A Police Officer is not dispatched first to phone the Fire Department. 49 Councilman Nichols: So, Councilman Shearer is lying out there with obviously a heart. attack. The virtue of the Paramedic, as I understand it, is that it has the capability of maintaining communications with the hospital center; that is, getting medical advise and giving professional, on -going care until the patient gets to the hospital. Is that correct? Chief Short: That is correct. Councilman Nichols: Now, at that point, someone makes a decision as to whether to refer this problem over to a commercial ambulance 0 CITY COUNCIL Page Twenty -Two City Manager - cont. 9/24/73 service or whether to maintain it under Paramedic control for the delivery to the hospital. Is that correct? Chief Short: Councilman Nichols: Chief Short: I think that would be determined by the nature of the. incident. Yeah, okay, but, my question was, at that moment, a determination is to be made. Yes. Councilman Shearer: Someone makes that determination. Now, would it be a correct assumption, therefore that the value of a community Paramedic service would evolve upon that judgment? Chief Short: That is true. Councilman Nichols: Therefore, if our men, Municipal , employees as Paramedics, determine that a true critical emergency exists, then their service would continue to the door of the hospital. Chief Short: Councilman Nichols: be called to transport to the hospital. Is That is true. And, if they do not consider it to be an emergency in that sense, at that point the commercial service would that correct? Chief Short: There are several variables to that, Councilman Nichols. On the basis that if a private ambulance is notified im- mediately, under present conditions, of any first aid call, they are usually at the scene. Yes, they would probably be at the scene, and if it was determined by the Paramedic in attendance, they could be turned over to a private ambulance, yes. Councilman Nichols: The point is that what we. are going to offer to our community is a service involving critical decisions. And,. that if there is a critical element involved, that maximum care could be extended through this service that would not otherwise be available. Is that correct? Chief Short: Councilman Nichols: • decision service. Chief Short: Councilman Nichols: That is true. Well, that's the money that we are investing of the taxpayers - a critical Yes sir. It's worth the money to me. Councilman Shearer: Based on what Councilman Nichols was asking, I am a little confused now as to who hauls me to the hospital. If it is an emergency, I ride in the Paramedic unit, if it's not - in other words, it's $21, 000 we have down here for emergency equipment - would this provide us with the . capabilities of taking this heart attack victim to the hospital? CITY COUNCIL City Manager - cont. Chief Short: Councilman Shearer: • of calling the private ambulance? Page Twenty -Three 9/24/73 Yes, it would. The whole package, all the way. I am plugged into the unit that does monitoring and so forth. Then, what is the purpose Chief Short: Well, as I stated, that is what we are presently doing. We might have to modify that particular operation, but we would have the capability. There are times in some of our first aid cases now, where firemen do have to ride in a private ambulance. We have done this on several occasions, administering oxygen, providing this type of service. If we had the vehicle available, and this type of emergency does exist, we have the equipment and a knowledge of the equipment to render aid directly to the hospital. Does that answer your question, sir? Councilman Shearer: I guess that I was confused by the first page of the report, under type of service it says, "Paramedic - handling the basic emergency, private ambulance providing the transportation to the hospital. " That statement would not apply to an emergency critical case. That transportation would be provided by the Paramedics in the properly equipped vehicle. Chief Short: In the properly equipped vehicle, yes, it could be stated that would be true. • What we are really recommending is Number 2 - the Paramedic with an emergency ambulance service which would provide the Paramedic with the equipment to respond and your private ambulance would be a secondary type of unit. Wherein the type of service listed under Num- ber 1, basically, no ambulance service is provided by the City. I hope that answers your question. Mr. Aiassa: That is if we don't want to spend the money for the ambulance. Chief Short: In other words, if you do not provide the additional $6, 000, we will probably end up with a vehicle that would not be equipped properly for an ambulance service. Councilman Nichols: We are talking about spending $75, 000 to $100, 000 a year, and then someone says, but if you don't spend the extra $6, 000, maybe at this very critical point we won't be able to get the guy to the hospital. Now, we are either going to provide this kind of program, or we are not. • 'Councilman Young: The motion says we are. Councilman Nichols: The question is simply this: the only virtue that this program brings is to save lives. Now, we go out on Michelle Street, and some youngster is out there with a broken leg; we are not going to rush him to the hospital in a Paramedic unit with immediate radio contact, someone else is going to take that child there. But, if an individual had had a heart attack, or he is critical, then, if that is the best way to get him there - we are going to get him there. Obviously, there are critical decisions to be made. But, we certainly must have the equipment to do the whole job. If we are going to be short on the basis for getting the person to the hospital, then we don't even have a program. CITY COUNCIL Page Twenty -Four City Manager - cont. 0 n U • Councilman Shearer: I agree. Now, maybe I missed the point. I. thought earlier -in the discussion you indicated, Chief, that your recom- mendation did not include the purchase of the ambulance unit. Chief Short: No, what I meant to say, Councilman Shearer, was that under Number 2, the $6, 000 was not shown as a cost. It shows $59, 000. The additional $6, 000 for an ambulance would have to be added. Councilman Shearer: So, you are recommending Number 2, plus $6, 000. Chief Short: Councilman Shearer: Mayor Lloyd: Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: Yes. All right. That is what I was trying to understand. Okay. My comment is that I am favorably disposed. AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None REQUEST FOR LEAVE OF ABSENCE WITH PAY (Joyce Jordan) Mr. Aiassa: Mr Chairman, there is a Staff report tied in with this matter. We have allowed these requests before, we have cited an example, and all of the employees that were given this extended Sick Leave have paid back all the time that was granted by the City. I think this is one time when the Council can be lenient to the point where we have conscientious employees. Motion made by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Shearer to approve the request for Leave of Absence with pay for Joyce Jordan. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None ADDITION OF MAYOR'S SIGNATURE TO THE SIGNATURE PLATE USED TO PROCESS PAYROLL CHECKS No discussion. Motion made by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer, and carried to approve the addition of Mayor's signature to the signature plate used to process payroll checks. Councilman Young: Imove ..... CITY COUNCIL Page Twenty -Five City Manager - Cont. 9 / 24 / 73 STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LAFCO HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 26, 1973 RE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE STUDY III • Mr. Aiassa: Councilman Young, I would like to, if it is agreeable with the Council, - Council- man Shearer has attended the previous meeting on this matter, and if the Council would authorize.... • is Mayor Lloyd: Well, he has been appointed to this, and he does not need another appointment. He will continue with that, unless he can't go. Councilman Shearer: I am assuming that the Council's position is the same as we took the last time. Mayor Lloyd: That is correct. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Chappell and carried to receive and file the Staff recommendations for LAFCO hearing on September 26, 1973, re Sphere of Influence Study III. CITY CLERK MAYOR'S REPORTS No report. THE CHAIR CALLED A PERSONNEL SESSION. Mayor Lloyd: We had several discussions in the Personnel Session, the first of which would indicate that the City Manager's salary would be effective as of July 1, and also the City Attorney. RESOLUTION The City Attorney presented: ''A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING SECTION 7 OF 'IHE RESOLUTION NO. 1277 RELATING TO THE SALARY RANGE APPLICABLE TO THE CLASS OF ADMINISTRATIVE CLERK. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried to waive further reading of the resolution. Councilman Shearer: Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Shearer: Mayor Lloyd: The comment was 5 percent, is that - I believe the total was 7-1/2 percent, wasn't it? Yes. An additional 5 percent over the 2-1/2 already granted? I believe that is the intent of the motion. Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Nichols to approve said resolution. Motion carried on roil call vote as follows: CITY COUNCIL Page Twenty -Six Mayor Reports- - cont. 9/24/73 AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None • YOUTH ADVISORY Mayor Lloyd: It is the intent of the Council to have a COMMISSIONER discussion on this. There are some recommendations, and perhaps some changes in the offing. However, in view of the shortness of time, it was the view of the Council that we would make a selection as expediously as possible. I have caused letters to go out to four of the High Schools, Covina, South Hills, West Covina, and Edgewood, and I will be initiating one tomorrow to Bishop Amat. Is there anyone else that should receive a letter to make sure that we get application: CJ • Councilman Young: Well, Nogales, Mr. Mayor. We have a commissioner from Nogales here in the audience, in fact, I think. An important segment of our population is served by Nogales High School. Mayor Lloyd: Okay. One of the things on this - we are going to have to call your august body into session before that time, so I will do my level best to notify you as early as possible. We are going to have to make the decision before September 30. That's when they expire - according to the resolution, that's when they expire, and I believe that is correct. Mr. Wakefield: That is correct. Mayor Lloyd: However, I would say that if the com- mission has any recommendations, certainly every Councilman, and myself, not the least of which, would be most pleased to hear any recommendation that you have. There were some recommendations that came out, but we just didn't have the time to pursue them. One of which was that we should shift the term of office from May to May so that the people will be appointed by the end of the school year. Another recommendation which was made was that we ought to raise the age limit from 14 to 16. Another recommendation was that the commissioners should be appointed from specific schools. So; if you have any thoughts along those lines, it would be good to bring those forward. ANIMAL WELFARE DAY Mayor Lloyd: If there is no objection, I will declare Animal Welfare Day. Councilman Shearer: I have never shot an animal, I don't intend to; I am not a hunter. But, do I understand this resolution to include that the City Council is asking the citizens of West Covina, which I am sure are hunting enthusiasts, not to engage in that activity? Perhaps I misread the intent of the proclamation. I direct attention to the third whereas, "Whereas, each year millions of animals are the unnecessary victims of cruel traps, guns, contests, and many other human inflicted tortures. " And, in the conclusion that we are asking the citizens of West Covina to refrain from activities of sports which lead to such cruelty. I am sure there is a broad definition, or a different definition, amongst people as to what constitutes cruelty to animals. I just threw that out in case there is a hunter on the,Counci.l. We may be asking ourselves to refrain from something that we have done for years. I don't know what this is asking. Mayor Lloyd: I don't think it is very clear. Councilman Young: Mr. Mayor, to me it just says to do everything in a decent fashion. My dog was wondering where to pick up her CITY COUNCIL Page Twenty -Seven Mayor's Reports - cont. • is • Mayor Lloyd: I don't find anything, and .I have hunted, that is particularly repugnant, unless there are some people who see the hunter as all bad. I happen to have seen animals die of starvation, and as a result it can be cruel on both sides. Councilman Shearer: Well, your intent in signing this will not be to ask our citizens to give up their policy of hunting? Mayor Lloyd: To respect the lives of wild animals and to preserve and protect their domain, and this kind of a continuance of a pre- servation situation for certainly the endangered species such as the big horn elk, and the other animals. I think that is explicit in the proclamation. Councilman Nichols: Mayor Lloyd: Miss Preston: put on the agenda. Who is sponsoring this? I have no idea. It must have come to you somehow. It came in this form here, and Gary Lind brought it over and asked to have it Motion made by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Shearer, and carried to hold this item over until the first meeting in October. RESOLUTION ''A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA CON- GRATULATING THE EAST SAN GABRIEI VALLEY JAPANESE COMMUNITY CENTER AT THE DEDICATION OF THEIR NEW BUILDING COMPLEX. " Mayor Lloyd: I am very sorry that we will all be gone on that weekend when they have this. However, we have written a proclamation which I was hoping, maybe, I would deliver personally, and at least tell them that we are sorry we couldn't be there. Councilman Young: It may be that I can go that weekend, Mr. Mayor, if I happen not to.... . Mayor Lloyd: Oh, then maybe you could represent us then. Councilman Young: I would do so. Mayor Lloyd: Does that meet with everyone's approval? Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried to waive further reading of the body of the resolution. Motion made by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Nichols to adopt said resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None • n U CITY COUNCIL Mayor's Reports - cont. Page Twenty -Eight 9/24/73 INDEPENDENT CITIES Mayor Lloyd: I will be a speaker at this, and CONFERENCE REGISTRATION I am planning on going down AND EXPENSES there this Friday. I would ap- preciate a vote of confidence from the Council. Councilman Shearer: Mayor Lloyd: No money, just a vote of confidence? No, I want some money, too. Councilman Nichols: Well, Mayor, if you are connecting irrevocably a vote of confidence to the allocation of funds, you may be in trouble either way you go. I will be happy to vote for the money myself, and Councilman Shearer will give you the confidence. Councilman Nichols: Mayor Lloyd: Mr. Aiassa: Councilman Chappell: Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Chappell: Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Chappell: Mayor Lloyd: Mr. Aiassa: You need $150, is that right? Yes, I think so. Will that cover it, Mr. Aiassa? Yes, you have a $90. 00 registration fee. Is our league liaison man going down there, too? This is Independent Cities. Yes, is our Independent Cities liaison man going too? No, no one has spoken to me. I think that if he is going he should.... I think I am. Yes, you are, as Mayor. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young, for Mayor Lloyd to attend the Independent Cities Conference, with expenses not exceed $150. 00. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None Mayor Lloyd: Let the record show, that those who • are planning to attend the California Cities Conference, which will be held on October 20, 21, 22, 23, and 24th -- I was under the impression that Councilman Chappell, Councilman Shearer, Councilman Young and myself for sure, and that Councilman Young was "ify", but he will try to be there. Councilman Young: Mayor Lloyd: That is correct. It is "ify" at the moment, a reservation has been made. All right. Then, this obviates a regular Council meeting, which we will have to move, I presume, back for one week. Is that correct, Mr. Aiassa? CITY COUNCIL Page Twenty -Nine Mayor's Reports - cont. 9/24/73 Mr. Aiassa: Yes, you usually move down to the 29th Mayor Lloyd: Does that meet with everyone's approva • (All Council members indicated in the affirmative. ) Mayor Lloyd: We don't need a motion on that. We wil set it at our next meeting, which will be prior to that; and, we will set our hearings and everything back to that time. But I did want - and, I'd appreciate that, Mike, if you would make note of that, so that the people will know that we arc - sliding the Council meeting back. is i Mr. Aiassa: Mayor Lloyd: COUNCILMEN'S REPORTS/COMMENTS I have nothing further to report. Didn't you have something you wanted to say on Item 4? It's all been said. Councilman Young: Just a real quickie point - this entrance to the parking lot from Sunset Avenue. I think that some kind of a guideline ought to be drawn. I sailed in there the other night, first time I used it, and suddenly found myself going the wrong way on a one-way entrance. It is a real wide exit there. So, tonight I checked it out because I kind of pride myself on my driving - I'rri really pretty careful and pretty good. You drive up to the left turn slot, and there is that arrow that makes a sharp turn, you know, so I just kind of blandly followed the arrow - the painted arrow, and I am glad a police- man wasn't there; I would have hit him head on. I do think that we need some kind of striping out there that would obviate that. It is kind of a hazard, and if not a hazard, an embarrassment. Mayor Lloyd: Mr. Zimmerman: possible. Councilman Nichols: Mr. Zimmerman, would you make a note on that so you could follow up. Yes sir, Mr. Mayor, we will certainly take that under submission and see if we can get that up there as rapidly as You solve his problem, and you solve mine. Councilman Chappell: I did want to make one announcement. As some of you might know, I am co- chairman for the Queen of the Valley . Men's Steak Fry which is being held this Wednesday. I hope you all receive invitations, and are planning to attend because we are promising you a good time, and an outstanding dinner. If you haven't made your reservations, just call me or the hospital, and we will see that your steaks will be ready ,for you. Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Chappell: Councilman Chappell, are you selling tickets? No, I don't have tickets. I just turn your name in, and you pick them up at the door. CITY COUNCIL Councilmen's Reports/Comments - cont. Page Thirty Is 0 0 Mayor Lloyd: I think I have already purchased mine. Councilman Chappell: You sent yours in, Mr. Mayor, and Councilman Young. I have those two on my records. It's going to be a good time. It's been a lot of work, and I would .like to see it successful. That's all, Mayor. Councilman Shearer: I have two items, Mr. Mayor. First, I would move an appropriate resolution adequately be prepared for Mr. Chuck Stearns, who I understand has been forced to leave. He has donated a considerable amount'of time over the past two years to the Youth Commission. I understand because of a change of job he will be unable to continue in this capacity. RESOLUTION NO. 4497 "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA COMMENDING CHUCK S TEARNS FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE WORK OF THE YOUTH ADVISORY COMMISSION. " Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young, and carried to waive further reading of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young to adopt said resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young NOES: None ABSENT: None Councilman Shearer: In that same regard, Mr. Mayor, are we up to date on - I know we had quite a changeover of commissioners some months back, and there are some which I don't recall a resolution. Would you check? I believe Commissioners Cox and Adams are the two that I don't recall. Could you check and see if we are up to date? Mayor Lloyd: Yes. Councilman Shearer: Then, I have one more, Mr. Mayor. For about four years or perhaps more, there has been - I won't call it an issue, an item that has raised its head now and then. This is with regard to the estab- lishment of a Pony level baseball field in West Covina. This dates back to, I guess, the time when there was an attempt made to put lights at Battery Field, but as a result of neighbor input, it was turned down, and one thing went to another. About two years ago, we accepted a lease of some property from PKK which has been graded. A considerable amount of talk and reports have been made in regard to how much it would cost, who to do what, and so forth. Mr. Zimmerman called me the other day and asked some questions. I am going to suggest that perhaps the Park and Recreation Staff be instructed to prepare a comprehensive report (1) outlining the need for such a field, (2) how this need can best be accomplished; it might turn out to be more than one field, and (3) to assist then, in that regard, I would suggest the appointment of a special ad hoc committee made up of. perhaps representatives from each of the leagues that might be using the field or have a desire to use a field, Staff, perhaps a .liaison from the Council, the Parks and Recreation Commission, and also the schools. I mention the schools because I would .like to see this study'.include the possible development of more extensive use • • • CITY COUNCIL Page Thirty -One Councilmen's Reports/Comments - cont. of existing ball fields within the High School areas, similar to the tennis courts that we cooperated with, the swimming pool and so forth. Development of a .new field would be quite a major expense. I know its been in the backs of the minds of a .lot of people, but we are getting nowwhere. I think we ought to come to grips with the issue and make a decision so that the various leagues in town know just where they stand. I would be glad .to serve on this committ but being the President of the Board of Directors of one of the Leagues wanting to u the field, there might be a conflict of interest. Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Chappell: happy to sit on this ad hoc committee. Councilman Young: Oh, I don't feel there would be a conflict Well, he might be his league's repre- sentative. I, not being involved in any leagues any more, would be more than I was just wondering if there was some sort of formal action we should take. Mayor Lloyd: He talked of the appointment of a com- mittee, and I already have some thoughts. My attitude is that if we are going to investigate that, we.can do it in several different ways. One of which is what he suggested - to appoint a person from each league. Is that cor- rect? Councilman Shearer: Mayor Lloyd: Councilman Shearer: Yes, this was just thrown out as a suggestion. Yes, I understand. Perhaps the Parks and Recreation Commission would formalize.... . Mayor Lloyd: Yes, we already have the Parks and Recreation Commission, which is available. So, what we might do, to keep the flow a bit orderly in this, is to ask the members of each league to have a meeting. Then, have them make a recommendation to the Parks and Recreation Commission, and have the commission function as it ought to do; which, of course, is to bring it to our body. I think that way we would get the input and everybody is involved, that brings the Staff into it, and so forth. Does that sound reasonable? How would you .like to do it then? Would you want Councilman Chappell to get it off the ground and meet with the league people and then..... . -Councilman Nichols: Councilman Shearer: Well, I think that the Parks and Recreation people should start it. Is there something special about this... No, I did not discuss this previously with any of the Council. Councilman Nichols: There is a need; there has been a falling off of the development and it should be regenerated. Really, I do feel it most appropriately handled by Parks and Recreation and that we here this evening should simply move that it be referred to them with the request that the Commission listen to the tape of this meeting and the sentiments expressed here and CITY COUNCIL Page Thirty -Two Councilmen's Reports/Comments - cont. 9/24/73 implement such action as the creation of a committee that would result with a specific recommendation to be made to the Council. Councilman Shearer: My intent was not to dictate there woul, • be such a committee; this was only a suggestion. If the Commission is goin, to listen to this, I would suggest that the emphasis be placed first on the determin of a need for such a facility. In the past it has always been sort of a foregone conclusion that there will be a ball field off Azusa Avenue in a certain location. I don't believe that enough study and investigation has gone in to determine if that is the most economical way to provide a facility. I think there are other ways that should be explored. • • Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young, and carried that the Parks and Recreation Commission be directed to look into this matter and make such investigations as they deem necessary to report back to the Counci. APPROVAL OF DEMANDS Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Young to approve demands totaling $387, 926. 62 as listed on demand sheets C910 through 912, and B591A through 592A. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: NOES:. ABSENT: ADJOURNMENT Chappell, Lloyd, Nichols, Shearer, Young None None Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Chappell and carried, to adjourn at 10:15 P.M. to the next regular meeting.