01-24-1972 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
JANUARY 24, 1972.
The regular meeting of the Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m.
• . by Mayor Ken Chappell in the West Covina City Council Chambers.
The Pledge of Allegiance was given. Reverend John L. Reid, Jr.,
of the Community Presbyterian Church gave the invocation.
ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Chappell; Councilmen:, Shearer, Nichols,
Young,Lloyd
Others Present: George Aiassa, City Manager
H. R. Fast, Ass't. City Manager
Richard Terzian, City Attorney
Lela Preston, City Clerk
George Zimmerman, City Engineer
Richard Munsell, Planning Director
Leonard Eliot, Controller
Norm Stevens, Director of Rec. & Pks.
VARIANCE APPLICATION Mayor Chappell: Before we move on to the
NO. 668 Consent Calendar we have
RENE' A. MADDOX a letter from the
Maddox's asking for a 4
to 6 week postponement of this case that was supposed to be heard,
tonight as a public hearing item in regard to their horse. I
mention this now for those that are present tonight for this specific
matter. I would ask the Council to act on this request at this time.
Mr. Aiassa, when will this item be put back on the calendar?
Mr. Aiassa: Either on March 13th or March 27th.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Shearer and,
carried, to hold over Variance Application No. 668 to the City Council
meeting of March 27, 1972, at 8 P.M.
Councilman Shearer:
Mr. Aiassa:
Mayor Chappell:
Councilman Shearer:
Mr. Aiassa:
Mayor Chappell:
PRESENTATION
Mr. Mayor, a question. Will notices be sent
out again or are notices sent out?
Normally we do not send out notices on a
matter of this kind, but at the request of
the Council we will.
I think we should, Mr. Aiassa.
And particularly if the date is set at any
other time than the 27th by action of the
applicant.
We can notify those that are normally
notified for a regular hearing matter.
Will the City Clerk please make note of that.
Mr. Larry Jones
AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS Mayor Chappell and members of the
Council, as past President of the
ASSOC.. PROJECT.N0::66-1 American Public Works Associatoh;..I have
the honor of making a presentation to
the City of West Covina for leadership in promoting in the field
of public works by joining with other public agencies in financing
cooperative research projects. The expenditure of large sums of
money and the services of highly qualified professionals are fre-
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PRESENTATION BY APWA
quently required to conduct the comprehensive research needed to
develop solutions to complex public works problems. Local govern-
ments and public agencies usually do not have the professionals or
funds available for solving such problems individually. Research
and financing conducted on a cooperative basis appears to offer the
most promising solutions. In July 1966 the APWA research foundation
embarked on such a cooperative research program to help governments
keep pace and in some cases anticipate the rapidly growing needs
for workable approaches to public works problems.
The program is specifically oriented
towards finding solutions to public works problems commonly
experienced in local and state governments. The APWA research
foundation completed 16 public works projects totalling $1,965,000
during the past few years. Through these projects the foundaticn
has been successful in bringing together the financial and manpower
of the Federal government and numberous State and local agencies to
focus on serious problems common to urban areas from coast to coast.
The findings resulting from these studies have provided knowledge
and techniques needed to improve public service in areas of waste
disposal, air and water pollution, motor vehicle corrosion control,
movement of traffic, public safety and other areas of service.
The City of West Covina is one of the
178 government agencies in the United States and Canada being
honored for its leadership in promoting research in public works.
As one of the outstanding and progressive cities of this area it is
with real pleasure that I present to you the Certificate of
Appreciation on behalf of the APWA research foundation and the
members of the Southern California Chapter.
Mayor Chappell: Thank you. On behalf of the City of
West Covina and our staff, who really
made this available to the City, we
thiank you very much for coming out and presenting this to us.
CONSENT CALENDAR
.Mayor -Chappell stated the procedure of the Consent Calendar items,
and asked if the Council or anyone present had any comments on the
following items:
1. WRITTEN_COMMUNTCATIONS
a) CONVERSE, DAVIS &
ASSOCIATES
b) DONALD R. WEBBER
1205r W..., Cypress Ave.,
San Dimas
c) GAYLE PONITZ,
CAROL JONES
LORI SHORE
d) BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
e) DENNIS E. DAVIS
1800 Jennifer Pl.
West Covina
Re: Proposal to conduct a foundation
investigation for the Civic Center
proposed Parking Structure. (Refer to
City Manager agenda item #6.)
Re: Complaint against service repair
shops. (Refer to Chamber of Commerce.)
Re: Letter soliciting and placing
canisters for donations for the
improvement of the San Gabriel, Valley
Humane Society and obtaining part-
time veterinarian.
Re: Installation of 4-way stop sign
at Sentous Avenue and Hollingworth
Street. (Receive and file)
Re: Complaint relating to problem with
horseback riding in residential area.
(Refer to staff)
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f) W. J. PASONICK
117 S. Juniper St.
West Covina
2. PLANNING COMMISSION
3. RECREATION & PARKS COMM.
4. YOUTH ADVISORY COMMISSION
5. ACCEPTANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS
AND RELEASE OF BONDS
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Re: Complaint problem of lighting
system at D atsun Agency. (Refer to
Staff)
Summary of action, January 19, 1972.
(Receive and file)
Summary of action, January 11, 1972.
(Receive and file)
Summary of action, January 18, 1972.
(Accept._. and file)
TRACT 30399 Accept Street and Sewer Improvements,
Donald L. Bren Company.
Location: Southeast corner of Amar
Road and Shadow Oak Drive.
Accept street and sewer improvements
and authorize release of the American
Insurance Company Bond No. 7105490
in the amount of $79,000. Staff
recommends acceptance.
6. TRAFFIC COMMITTEE MINUTES January 18, 1972. (Receive and file)
Councilman Shearer: Mr. Mayor, I have three items.
Items 1 (c) having to do with the
request for solicitation for funds
regarding the Humane Society. I only bring it up because on the
Consent Calendar it has no recommendation.
Mayor Chappell:
It should be referred to staff .
Will you please make that notation
on your agenda - refer to staff.
Councilman Shearer: Item 4 - Youth Advisory Commission.
One of the items in the summary of
action calls for a request for the
expenditure of funds. The recommendation is that we receive and
file. Will this allow the funds to be expended or does it require
separate action by Council?
Mr. Terzian: Yes, Councilman Shearer, it will
City Attorney require separate action. Is there a
warrant made out for that particular
expenditure?
Councilman Shearer: And when is this meeting between the
Youth Advisory",-ommission and the
South E1 Monte Council to be held?
4P Mr. Aiassa: I have not discussed this item with
my staff as yet, but we do not have
a budget for the Youth Advisory
Commission as we do with the other Boards and Commissions in the City.
This expenditure will have to be worked out and I would suggest that
the item be held over.
(Councilman Shearer asked Sheree Wilson, Commissioner of the Youth
Advisory Commission, when the meeting was to be held and she advised
that the meeting was already held., Mr. Aiassa then stated the
expenditure would be taken care'of by probably the personal contribu-
tion of someone.)
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CONSENT CALENDAR
Councilman Shearer: The last item is on the Traffic
Committee minutes, Item No. 8 of
the minutes. The recommendation
includes the completion of the sidewalk construction and the
• removal of the sidewalk crossing. Mr. Mayor, should I make my
point on this matter now or should the item be withdrawn for
discussion later on?
Mayor Chappell: It can be withdrawn.
Councilman Shearer: I would request that the Traffic
Committee's minutes Item No. 8 be
withdrawn.
Mayor Chappell: Hearing no objections we will withdraw
Item 8 relating to the Traffic Committee
minutes.
Councilman Young: Mr. Mayor, I wanted to speak with
regard to the Youth Advisory Commission.
I was at the meeting when this expendi-
ture was discussed and I was quite impressed with the discussion and
assured the Commissioners of at least one vote in favor of this expendi-
ture and I shall keep the faith. I think Mr. Stearns, the advisor,
picked up the tab for the luncheon and was quite willing to absorb it
and would be horribly embarrassed at it becoming an issue at this
particular point. In any event I think he should be reimbursed.
Mr. Aiassa: I prefer, Councilman Young, to work
this out. I believe the City Attorney
will advise you before any expenditures
can be made from the'public funds (that are not budgeted) it has to
have approval by the Council.
Councilman Young: That is thoroughly understood that it
comes before the Council and I even
committed a vote in favor of the
expenditure when it gets here - - but you just as soon not have it now?
Mr. Aiassa: That is right because the action should
have taken place before the expenditure
took place.
Mayor Chappell: This was their first exposure to this
type of thing - Mr. Aiassa, so I
think you will bring.it back to us so
we might voice on it at our next meeting.
Mr. Aiassa: This may end up an expenditure out of
my own pocket, I certainly don't want
anyone embarrassed over it.
Councilman Young: Mr. Mayor, with respect to Written
Communications, Items (b), (e), and (f).
I agree with the recommendations at
this particular point but these are items that I think we might treat
routinely as part of the Consent Calendar and then tend to neglect.
I would like to urge upon staff particularly their prompt attention to
these items and a prompt report back to Council within another meeting
or two.
Mayor Chappell: Fine. We will expect that information
back to us by our next regular meeting.
Councilman Nichols: I would concur particuarly in Item (f).
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CONSENT CALENDAR
That would seem to be the type of problem that could already have been
aggressively pursued by staff for an immediate solution. The implica-
tion is that there is a violation of the precise plan and we shouldn't
have to wait until citizens state they have been to the Planning
Department and complained and carried on and then finally must write a
• letter to the City Council. One of the big complaints -citizens have,
and legitimately so, is that people come before our government and
seek opportunities to develop and we make great promises for protect-
ing the single-family neighborhoods and then after the permission is
granted sometimes those promises are forgotten. Now is the time
for all good staff members to come to the aid of the residents around
the Datsun Agency.
I would also like to ask that Item 4
of the Traffic Committee minutes be held over pending an explanation
of what "all red intervals" are in the traffic signalization program.
I am rather ignorant of that and I would like to know something about
it before I vote on it.
Mayor Chappell: Item 4 and Item 8 of the minutes of the
Traffic Committee meeting will be held for
discussion later this evening.
Motion by Councilman Young to approve Consent Calendar items with
the exceptions noted. Seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried on
roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION NO. 4507 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEPTING A
GRANT DEED EXECUTED BY VIVIAN CURTIS,
A WIDOW, AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF."
RESOLUTION NO. 4508 "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
ADOPTED OF WEST COVINA ASCERTAINING THE GENERAL PRE-
VAILING RATE PER DIEM WAGES TO BE PAID UPON
PUBLIC WORK WITHIN THE CITY."
RESOLUTION NO. 4509 "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
ADOPTED OF WEST COVINA APPROVING PRECISE PLAN OF
DESIGN NO. 613 (Thomas W. Ellis)."
Mbtion:by.Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of said resolutions.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, to adopt
said resolutions. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
10 AWARD OF BIDS
BID NO. 72-51 Bids received in the office of the
RADIO CONTROL PANEL Purchasing Agent Wednesday, January
FOR POLICE DISPATCH CONSOLE 12, 1972, and thereafter publicly
opened and read. The City Clerk
stated the following bids were
received:
Varius Electronics $4,728.00
Mobile Radio 9,107.72
Councilman Lloyd: A question, Mr. Mayor. Where is Varius
Electronics located?
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AWARD OF BIDS: #72-51
Mr. Eliot: They are located in the City of Covina.
Controller
Councilman Lloyd: Then I have a small problem. My son just
went to work for them. 'Mr. City Attorney
• would there be a conflict of interest?
Mr. Terzian: Not in a legal sense, but since you do have a
City Attorney close relative employed there it would probably
be better for you to abstain.
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young, that the
City Council waive the bid bond requirement and the Purchasing Agent
be instructed to award a purchase order, in accordance with Bid #72-52
to Varius Electronics for a radio control panel for the police dispatch
console in the amount of $4,728.00. Motion carried on roll call vote
as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Councilman Lloyd
PUBLIC WORKS
PROJECT NO. 152-69019 LOCATION: Del Norte Park and
PARK SECURITY LIGHTING Walmerado Park
Council reviewed report of Recreation
and Parks Director.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, that City
Council approve security lighting plans and specifications for
Del Norte and Walmerado Parks and authorize the Recreation & Park
Department to call for bids for Phase I Security Lighting for
Del Norte and Walmerado Parks.
Councilman Lloyd: A question of Mr. Aiassa. I know we budgeted
money for park security lighting - is this
part of that budget and where do we stand on
it?
Mr. Aiassa: This was the money that was actually a part
of the 10e, park tax and at that time we
earmarked a portion of it for security
lighting.
Councilman Lloyd: This report refers to Phase I - is this
still Phase I and what was th, total amount
of money involved?
Mr. Fast: Mr. Mayor and members of Council, the
designation of Phase I may be somewhat mis-
leading. Let me recall the criteria
established for park lighting. It was determined the City could not
aff6fd to go into full lighting of the parks which would involve
the activity areas, therefore we cut it back to only that amount that
was satisfactory and suitable for security lighting only and we called
so that Phase I. In terms of funding the.$36,000 indicated in the report
is the remaining funds that are left for lighting, but.all of it only
at a security level.
Councilman Lloyd: In other words the program is cut back and is
this part of the'imatching fund program?
Mr. Fast: No that was completed approximately 9 months
ago.
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AWARD OF BIDS: #72-51
Councilman Shearer:
we didn't have to go
quite a bit of money.
• Mayor Chappell:
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Mr Mayor. I would like to comment that I
am glad to see that the plans and specifica-
tions of this were produced by staff and that
through a consultant on this. We probably saved
Yes we save quite a bit of money on things
like this done inhouse.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PROJECT NO. 152-69018-16 LOCATION: Galster Park.
PERGOLA AT GALSTER PARK Council reviewed report of Recreati�l
and Parks Director.
Councilman Lloyd: A point of order, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Aiassa,
haven't we already gone through all of this
previously and approved the plans and
specifications and I objected to its construction and you said the
money was already allocated and we had no choice - - and now all of
a sudden we have to approve it again?
Mr. Aiassa: Well you have to approve plans and specifica-
tions, this is a Council requirement before we
can call for bids.
Councilman Lloyd: I thought that was done. What did we vote
on that night - the money allocation?
Mr. Aiassa: We authorized the allocation of the money
and at that time it was discussed whether
we could hold off and use the funds somewhere
else.
Councilman Lloyd: That's right. Thanks very much, Mr.. Aiassa.
Motion by Councilman Young that the City Council approve the plans
and specifications for City Project No. 152-69018-16, for the con-
struction of a pergola at Galster Park, and authorize the Recreation
and Park Department to call for bids. Seconded by Councilman
Shearer and carried.
(Mayor Chappell then noted that in the audience a class from
Hollencrest School reviewing Government in Action. He asked that
the students stand up and be recognized, and further commented it
would be very nice to see more of this from time to time. This was
the idea of the teacher = Mrs. Tanner - the involvement of students
and"we thank you all for attending." )
PUBLIC HEARINGS
(Mayor Chappell advised the audience again that the public hearing
scheduled on the Maddox horse matter was held over at the applicant's
so request to the Council meeting of March 27, 1972.)
1971-72 SUPPLEMENTAL WEED LOCATION: Various throughout the City
& RUBBISH ABATEMENT PROGRAM Council reviewed Engineer's report.
PROTEST HEARING
Mayor Chappell: This matter is set for hearing on this date for
protests or objections from property owners
and other interested parties by Resolution of
Intention No. 4504 adopted January 10, 1972. Madam City Clerk do you
.have the Affidavit of Mailing?
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PUB. HEARINGS: 1971-72 SUPPLEMENTAL WEED
& RUBBISH ABATEMENT PROGRAM
Lela Preston: Yes, I do.
City Clerk
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried,
to receive and file Affidavit of Mailing.
Mayor Chappell: Madam City Clerk have you received any
written protests or objections against the
performing of this work?
Lela Preston:
City Clerk
No, I have not.
THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PROTEST HEARING OR OBJECTIONS
RELATIVE TO THE PROPOSED WORK. THERE WERE NO PROTESTS OR OBJECTIONS.
'HEARING CLOSED.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young and carried,
to authorize City Engineer to proceed with abatement of weeds and
rubbish on those properties described in Resolution of Intention
No. 4504.
CITY ATTORNEY
ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented:
INTRODUCTION "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA
MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN
PREMISES. (Zone Change Application No. 457 -
Thomas W. Ellis)."
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried.,
to waive further reading of the Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried,
to introduce said Ordinance.
ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented:
INTRODUCTION "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA AMENDING SECTION 3191 OF THE
WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO A
DECREASE IN MAXIMUM SPEED LIMITS. (Gemini &
Giano Sts.)1
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried,
to introduce said Ordinance.
ORDINANCE NO. 1183 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE
ANNEXATION TO, INCORPORATING IN, AND MAKING A
PART OF SAID CITY OF WEST COVINA, CERTAIN
TERRITORY OUTSIDE THE SAID CITY AND CONTIGUOUS
THERETO,,KNOWN AS °SOUTHERLY ANNEXATION NO. 216p1.
(location: San Jose School.)
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of said Ordinance.
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CITY ATTORNEY: Ordinance No. 1183
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City
Council adopt said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as
follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
• NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO. 4510 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF.THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA REQUESTING THE BOARD OF SUPER-
VISORS OF THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES TO PERMIT
THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS OF SAID COUNTY TO
RENDER SPECIFIED SERVICES TO THE CITY OF WEST
COVINA RELATING TO THE CONDUCT OF A GENERAL
MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN SAID CITY ON
APRIL 11, 1972.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, to adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO. 4511 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA, CALLING AND GIVING
NOTICE OF THE HOLDING OF A GENERAL MUNICIPAL
ELECTION TO BE HELD IN SAID CITY ON TUESDAY,
THE 11TH DAY OF APRIL, 1972, FOR THE ELECTION
OF CERTAIN OFFICERS OF SAID CITY AS REQUIRED
BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA RELATING TO GENERAL LAW CITIES."
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried,
to waive the reading of the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, to adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO. 4512 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA AMENDING SECTION VII OF
RESOLUTION NO. 1277 RELATING TO THE LIST AND
NUMBER OF AUTHORIZED POSITIONS AND SALARY
RANGES APPLICABLE THERETO."
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of said Resolution.
so Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, to adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO. 4513 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA REQUESTING ASSESSMENT INFORMA-
TION FROM THE 1972-73 ASSESSMENT ROLL."
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of said Resolution.
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CITY ATTORNEY: Resolution No. 4513
Page Ten
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, to adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
REQUEST FOR APPROVAL AND
AUTHORITY TO TRANSMIT
PROPOSED ASSEMBLY CON-
CURRENT RESOLUTION RE:
EXCESS PARCELS TO THE CITY'S
LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES
IN SACRAMENTO
Mr. Terzian: It is my understanding
that the Council request-
ed a concurrent resolution
re excess parcels in
connection with the
widening of the San Bernardino Freeway
for transmission to the representatives
in Sacramento. It is prepared and the
only action would be to transmit it.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, that the
resolution be forwarded to the appropriate governmental agencies.
Councilman Shearer: Mr. Mayor, I will abstain from voting on it
and for that reason would like a roll call vote.
I would also like to comment, particularly in
view of a recent publication of a report by what is commonly called the
"little Hoover Commission" seriously attacking the administration of
the State's excess property and one of the points covered was just what
we are asking to be done and that is holding parcels because they might
be necessary. What I am saying is I am in favor of it although,
of course, I will abstain in my vote, but our chances of getting through
weren't very good a week ago and even less today. So in that regard I
would urge staff not to sit back and figure they have at least 2 years;
ito= continue to work out, assuming excess parcels will be sold
expeditiously as urged by the Hoover Commission and where either by
law, practice, or policy, the properties are in conflict with the
best interests of the City that we continue to work for resolutions
for those, not relying that we have 2 years or longer to negotiate,
because I don't believe we will.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Councilman Shearer
BURKE, WILLIAMS AND SORENSON Mr. Terzian: Mr. Mayor, the last
STATEMENT item is the presenta-
tion of the statement
as indicated on the
agenda.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd that Burke, Williams and Sorenson be award-
ed $720.00 for Redevelopment Agency documents and special meetings;
$240.00 for the dissolution of zones for Woodside Village Maintenance
District #1; and $360.00 for the West Covina Sewer Maintenance
District annexation. Seconded by Councilman Young and carried on
roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
John M. Palokavic I would like very much to bring to the Council's
236 S. Myrtle St. attention the fact that there are a very large
West Covina group of concerned citizens in the area of the
E1 Dorado School, concerned with the perhaps
strongly rumored closing of the El Dorado
School. This was first brought to our attention, the concerned
parents, about a week ago today. And in that one short week we have
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
gained the support of in excess of one thousand concerned parents.
Realizing we approach the Council in somewhat of a backward position
because the School Board is meeting tomorrow evening but we would
nonetheless beg the Council's support at least to the degree that
the members of the School Board are made aware.of the concerned
• parents.
It is our understanding and from what
information we have been able to glean in our investigation that
E1 Dorado has probably the highest IQ of students in the West Covina
School District. And despite the fact that it borders on Azusa
Avenue there has not been one accident concerning any of the children
as a result of traffic. We understand one of the reasons for closing
the school is financial; however, we are confident that our investiga-
tion will show that the closing of the school may not be a realistic
problem, that there are manners of saving funds by other means. I
might further inform the Council that there has been a Committee
formed of concerned citizens, I am Co-chairman and..Mrs:_:_:Haskell is
Cha-irhian;.of::.the Boardl;.andt.::sheY is. present<,,-tbn 4ht.. _ .We'-wb.uld :,ask --Council to
lend us support inasmuch as it is a community problem. The school
itself is more than just a school to this particular area of the
community, it is a very basic part of the West Covina community. It
houses a little League field next door, a very popular place.
I don't know where else that many people could get that concerned
in that short of a time. And when I indicate we do have the support
of thousands I mean that literally. That in itself is an indication
of the concern of the parents. We would ask the Council if by
resolution or letter or whatever manner it chooses that it lend
support to the Board for the obviously expressed opposed closing
of the School, if it is to be closed. I would be happy to answer any
questions.
Councilman Lloyd: I have no questions, I understand your problem
and your concern. You are aware, I am sure,
that this body does not have any jurisdictional
function over the School District. We can't decide to keep the school
open or closed.
Mr. Palokavic: I might indicate we are painfully aware of
it.
Councilman Young: I think you know because I talked to all the
Councilmen today that I suggested this
presentation be made by whatever representa-
tive the Committee choose, and it is good to see my friend John
Palokavic making it. I am sure the City Council is as concerned as
anyone regarding the welfare of our children, educationally, safety
wise, convenience wise, etc., but we are dealing with a coordinate
political entity. I would say for myself, and I daresay I might be
reflecting the views of my fellow Councilmen, although they can
speak for themselves if they so choose, we prefer to see all the
schools continue serving the neighborhoods around them. I am sure
the School Board is aware or will be aware of our personal
feelings in this respect, whether there is any political or
policy type pressure to bring to bear or that would be appropriate,
I am not prepared to say. I mentioned it to the City Attorney and
he is not aware of an appropriate avenue that we might bring
pressure to bear to keep the school open.
Obviously we would like to see it happen.
Obviously also we have to keep in mind the changing population
patterns and the changing patterns of youth that have to be served
and that some alternate adjustments will have to be made over the
years in our school services as in our other services.
Councilman Nichols: I would like to say that this is one of
those rare occasions when I think on my
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part, as a school principal in the community and responsible to
that particular Board of Education, that wisdom would be the
better part of my judgment and I really don't intend to play any
role whatsoever in this discussion and let my muteness be testimony
to the wisdom and not to my lack of intelligence.
. The only other observation I would make is
that as the principal of California Elementary School I would have
to take strong exception to any rumors that you have heard that
E1 Dorado School is the most brillant in this School District.
Mr. Palokavic: I meant to include "with the exception of..".
Councilman Shearer: Not having heard any thing other than rumors
and I did read this in the newspaper about a
week ago and until this afternoon when I
was contacted by Councilman Young, I didn't realize it had got to
this point. I don't feel that I can go on record recommending to
the School Board that they not close the school until I have heard
their reasons as to why they are proposing or not proposing this.
At this point I would support a motion urging the School Board, if
they are going to make this in the form of a proposal, that they
conduct a hearing to hear the feelings (and I am sure they will) of
the community and perhaps after hearing it, if we would like to
take an action as a Council we might but I will not vote supporting
an action saying to the School Board tomorrow - close or not close -
merely to give consideration to all of the desires of those people
that Mr. Palokavic represents.
Mayor Chappell: I might point out that you have elected
officials at the School Board level which
are certainly receptive to this type of
presentation. Having served there for 5 years I know they will
certainly examine all of the avenues in the area of closing the
school - if it is necessary to close - before doing so. We, in our
position, can't make any decision, because they have the facts
and all we have is rumors at this time. I would suggest, if
possible, you do the same thing tomorrow evening at the School
Board meeting,., request to be put on their agenda and make this
presentation to them and let them know h-bw you feel so when they
make their study they can examine it a little more thoroughly
then they might otherwise.
I do remember one area when we were talking
about the Freeway moving in that area, to .the right or left of
the school, and that school was proposed to remain open and the
School Board at that time had some things to say about the Freeway
that was proposing to go between West Covina High and the School,
because some of the property was to be taken off of the school.
So for what that might be worth - it might help or not help. I
think you have heard the Councils' opinions. Councilman Lloyd -
Councilman Lloyd: Thank you, Mr Mayor. I really sympathize
and empathize with the group who has come
here because the frustration they are
expressing is indicative of the problems in education and certainly
this Council is not about to embark on any dissertation in that
area. We have learned men that have been duly'elected. However,
since I too have cried out against the fact that the monies
allocated as a result of the property taxes, the tremendous
inequities that exists in the total of the Los Angeles basin
where one school district has an ADA of $6.50 and another one
$14.00 a day. It is time all people in all governmental levels
take a firm stand and say we need equity. In reality what we
are saying is we are really concerned; I am concerned not only as a
citizen but as one of the people involved in this community as a
legislative leader and I say very clearly that we must stop saying
that education equates with property. We must see that onecchi1d
should be given an equal opportunity with every other child, at
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least as far as the economics of education are concerned and this is
really very important and I think this is really what you are saying.
Why should somebody in Beverly Hills get their kid transported to and -
from picnics when you can't even have a school as close as possible
so your children will not be subjected not only to a long walk but
one which may be fraught with some dangers. I would be willing to
make a motion, with the concurrence of Councilman Young, that we
do recommend to the School Board that they seek every possible
opportunity to find an equitable solution to the problems which
you are presenting and I will so move.
. Seconded by Councilman Young and carried.
Councilman Nichols abstained from voting.
Sheree Wilson (Commissioner on the Youth Advisory Commission.)
2017 Owen Place Mr. Mayor and members of Council I would like
West Covina to address a few words to the children present
tonight. I think some of the people in the
community are fully aware that we have a
newly formed Youth Advisory Commission in our City, formed to serve
youth. Not very many young people show up .at our meetings so I would
like to make it known and invite all of you and your teachers to
participate, as well as the citizens of the community. If it isn't
going to have the backing;of :the youth in the community then it is
something I don't want to be a part of. You have to have.the feelings
of the community. Our meetings are ,the third Tuesday of each month
and it is open to all and I think youwill find it informative. We
hope you will come. Thank you.
Mayor Chappell:
Sheree, I
do want
to say one thing at this time,
please do
not get
discouraged at the poor
attendance
so soon
because you have a lot of
topics to discuss and
I am sure as
you go
along you will .become
known and you will get
more people
attending.
Many Council meetings
are poorly attended.
So have patience
-
that is the name of the game.
(A question from the audience asked what age group does this cover
and Mayor Chappell stated the Youth Advisory Commission deals with
all of the youth of the community; from the age of 5 on up to 21.)
James Kaelin Mr. Mayor and members of Council I would
611 So. St. Malo like to address a question. I am here
West Covina representing"the Edgewood High School
newspaper. Where exactly does the
Redevelopment Agency plan -to relocate the Star Dust Bowl, which is
in the area of the redevelopment program?
Mayor Chappell: At the present time we can't answer this
question because no decisions have been made
on any portion of the Plaza area. At the
time we do have information I will contact your father, so you may
come in and represent your newspaper. At the present time nothing
has been done in that area. .
Councilman Young: Would the Redevelopment Agency have any
plans ever to relocate the Star Dust Bowl
in this location? Isn't that an issue to
be resolved by the manager of the Star Dust Bowl perhaps working
ip conjunction with the Agency and the City?
Mayor Chappell: I think the owner of the Star Dust Bowl
would have the final say of where he invests
his money. I am not an attorney but I think
the owner would have the final say. We can certainly encourage him
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but we can't say you will relocate here or there, he may just take
his money and put it in his pocket and go. But nothing has been
decided on any portion of the Plaza area including the
Star Dust Bowl.
James Kaelin: I would like to hand the Council 70 names
and addresses of people that have signed
the petition,regarding Star Dust Bowl to
leave it where it is.
Councilman Shearer: Mr. Mayor, it would appear to me that from
all of the support that has come out of
the community for the Star Dust Bowl tonight
and at our last meeting that if the present owners don't decide to
relocate somebody will come up with the money and build a bowling
alley in that area. I think that will be the deciding factor -
economics. There appears to be an awful lot of support there,
Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Mayor - there is also one other item,
the acquisition of the structure itself
will be determined by'the Redevelopment
Agency or by private individuals and if severance damage is higher
than the man wants to pay he may seek on his own to relocate the
bowling alley in lieu of. This is strictly between the owner and
the Redevelopment Agency or the individual owner that will buy it.
THE CHAIR CALLED A RECESS AT 8:30 p.m. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT
8:55 p.m. COUNCIL MEETING AGAIN RECONVENED FOR THE PRPOSE OF
OPENING THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT
9:10 P.M.
CITY MANAGER
SCAG - INDEPENDENT Mr. Aiassa: Council has received a
CITIES REPORT & STAFF written recommendation along
RECOMMENDATION with a copy of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young and
carried, supporting the Independent Cities resolution and to
authorize the Mayor to vote in favor of it at the appropriate
Independent Cities of Los Angeles County meeting.
RADAR REPORT Councilman Young: Mr. Mayor, I note a
POLICE DEPARTMENT recommendation from the
Police Department
that the
restrictions placed by the Council be lifted relating to the use of
radar. I think I would be prepared to support that recommendation.
I think based on the report the Police Chief has made, it is obvious
that radar is performing well. I have not heard any citizen
complaints about it and perhaps I; would be in as good or a better
position to hear these complaints. I would like to see this program
expanded and hopefully this type program might avoid the unfortunate
events that occurred recently in an accident between one of our
police units and a citizen that was killed. It appears to be a
worthy program and we are past the experimental stage and I would
recommend that initially the Police Chief's recommendation be followed
insofar as the lesS-re�;tri,ctmve-,•policy relative to the application of
the unit.
Seconded by Councilman Lloyd.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor, I would be prepared to vote for
the motion if my understanding of the motion
is confirmed by Councilman Young. The Chief
has stated in quotes here repeating his original recommendation -
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"that the Department has no intention of reassigning patrol personnel
for radar enforcement purposes, its use would be only as an adjunct
to our current regulations and then only on a selective basis."
Is the extending of this authority, that is the granting of the
Chief discretion to use radar within the framework of this
• recommendation?
Councilman Young: The intent of the motion is to encompass
the framework of the Chief's recommendation,
it is not to go beyond that recommendation,
nor is it to be less restrictive. Actually the recommendation
isn't specific enough. I think the motion simply endorses the Chief's
position and inherently we would expect a further report on what he
has in mind.
Councilman Nichols: The reason I bring up the point is not
because of any particulaf"philosophical
difference that I have between yourself or
any one else that might or might not advocate the use of radar, but
the City according to my understanding is not equipped at the present
time for the widespread use of radar. We have very limited
facilities and there is nothing in the current budget which would
enable the City to greatly expand radar on a short term basis and if
the Council were coming up with what amounted to a recommendation
for general traffic use enforcement of radar we should also be
looking back at our budget that provide the funds to make that
possible. Is that correct, Mr. Aiassa?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes. As Council remembers when we instigated
radar use it was on specific streets and
in specific areas. I believe the Chief would
like to use it in areas that we have promiscuous speeding, otherwise
the Chief would not use it in public areas for limited or even short
periods. The only comment I have is that we have and will continue
to use the radar unit only in the black and white car. We did
have some complaints when we ran it one night in a brown vehicle.
I will also work closely with the Chief to be sure that we do not
abuse the use of radar. We have only one unit so it won't be expanded
too far.
Councilman Shearer: I will vote for the motion - - it was my
understanding the recommendation was that
the Chief was to be allowed to use it any
where in the City that he felt it was necessary, and I don't
understand how it might be abused because if you are speeding you
are speeding. One last question of the City Attorney. In some
cities I have seen signs posted to the effect that"for your
protection we use radar" -'is that a legal requirement that we have
to post all .entrances to the city stating that we use radar?
Mr. Terzian:
I know most cities do, but I don't know if
City Attorney
it is a.legal requirement. I will check it.
Councilman Shearer:
I would like you to check it and if it is
not a legal requirement I would hope we don't
do it.
Mr. Terzian:
One reason the Cities do it is because it
City Attorney
has a strong enforcement effect, it tends
to slow traffic down throughout the City.
.
I will find out for you.
Mr. Aiassa:
Mr. Mayor, I think I can answer Mr. Shearer's
question. Mr. Wakefield did research it when
we started using the one unit and it is not
mandatory to post.
It is more of a courtesy to advise the people
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entering the City that radar is being used. I believe Mr. Wakefield
did research it, but we will double check, although we wouldn't
have used it without posting if it were a requirement. That was
one of the questions I personally asked at that time.
Motion carried.
LEAGUE COMMITTEE ON Mr. Aiassa: I attended the League
REVENUE & TAXATION meeting in San Francisco
this morning of the Revenue
and Taxation Advisory Board and I will have a written report for the
Council. My item is a budgeted one and there was only a plane fare
and one meal. And I did receive Council permission to attend before
I left the City.
We discussed almost all of the 14 items and
I believe that the 1972 legislature is going to be a rather trying
one for not only cities but for all other agencies and we are now
in the throes of some pretty difficult problems. The Committee
spent all day going through the items and I will make copies of it
for the Council.
Mayor Chappell: This was one of the items that Mr. Aiassa
polled each Councilman separately and was
given approval and we are now verifying
that approval for the record.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, that
Council authorize Mr. Aiassa's attendance at the League meeting
and the cost not to exceed. the cost of a plane fare and one meal.
Councilman Young: Does that put him in the same category
as the $8.20 for the Youth Advisory
Commission?
Mr. Aiassa: No there is one difference. The City
Manager's allowance is permitted and is in
the budget and the City Manager would
inform the City Council that he paid the $8.20 to the Youth
Advisory Commission so they are now clear of any obligations to
commitments, and the point will be made to the Youth Advisory
Commission that they make no future expenditures without coming
before the Council first.
AYES: Councilmen:
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
VETERAN'S ADDRESSING
SERVICE
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
Mr. Aiassa:
for a youth program back in 1965, I
Council wants to change their policy
Council made, a positive
stand on this sometime back,
we were going to use the
house numbering painting
believe, and I don't know if
or not.
Councilman Nichols: I think we have some of the most poorly
identified residences in the San Gabriel
Valley in our own community here, at
least in terms of curb identification. It is true that the
Council has in the past indicated we would like to reserve this
opportunity to our youth but it seems to me that our youth have
been very significantly absent on the streets as far as painting
curbs. There are some 18,000 residences in West Covina,"the City
is growing all the time, and it may be (perhaps Mrs. Preston you
can enlighten me) there may be some youth groups that are painting
but there appears to be far more than enough business to go around
and I feel if we wait too many more years for our youth td paint
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there will be no numbers left to paint. I really think we are at the
point where we ought to let any legitimate firm come in to the City
and do the painting.
Mayor Chappell: This might be an area we could pass on to
the Youth Advisory Commission. They were
looking for jobs for the students in the
community, this may be an area they could have some sort of
organization made out and paint the curbs.
Councilman Nichols: This has happened before, various groups
come in and ask and we say "fine" and maybe
a few houses are done or a block or two,
but I think all of us can move about the City and see very clearly
that there is very little painting done. I know there has been no
request at my home to paint the curb in the last 5 years and I would
like very much to get it done. It doesn't appear to me that
offering this firm the chance to come into the City is going to be
taking the bread from the mouths of youth but if there is any
possibility that our own youths would get moving I would be all for
it. I am only saying I think we are approaching the point where we
have to consider the reality of it acid at least give our citizens a
chance to have this service provided for them by someone.
Councilman Shearer: Perhaps the Youth Advisory Commission as
already stated can pursue this, but if it
turns out there are not enough young people
interested in this type of work something should be done. However,
I don't like the method of operation of the organization called
"Veteran's Addressing Service." I don't think most people will
obviously say this is a veteran's organization like VFW and having
the curb already painted and someone coming to my door and saying
that I painted your curb and now I would like to receive a donation.
I don't like that type of operation. I don't really like to
receive neck ties in the mail along with a letter saying either
send back or send us money. Granted that gets the curb painted but
to me I personally resent that type of a solicitation or as they call
it a donation, sounding as though it were a charitable organization,
when in fact as the report indicates to us it is not a charitable
organization. I don't like that method of doing business, so youth
or not, I would not let these people come in and do it under this
type of arrangement. If we feel it is something that should be
done in West Covina where every curb should be painted perhaps
it should be undertaken as a City Project.
Councilman Young:
May be we could declare the whole City a
Special Assessment District and get a
$1.00 from each resident and turn the whole
project over to the Youth Advisory Commission with instructions to
carry it out.
Mr. Aiassa:
They are having a special meeting on
February 1 and if we carry this matter over
to our next meeting February 14th, it will
give them a chance to
look it over and discuss it. They are looking
for jobs and they are
working with the Fire Department and other
agencies for contacts
and I know several of the youngsters in the
last 4 or 5 years have undertaken a pretty good project and at
50(,' per house it is not
a bad project.
Motion by Councilman
Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young and
carried, to hold this
item over to February 14, 1972, meeting of
the Council.
Councilman Young:
Mr. Mayor. I would like to see a summary
of our remarks, particularly Mr. Nichols'
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remarks made available to the Youth Advisory Commission..when this
is discussed. Can this be done? I think it would be very helpful.
Mr. Aiassa: Yes, we will do that.
WILLIAMS & MOCINE Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by
STATEMENT Councilman Lloyd, authorizing the payment
of Williams & Mocine Statement in the
amount of $600.00. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PROPOSAL BY CONVERSE, Mr. Aiassa: This is a proposal by
DAVIS & ASSOCIATES Converse, Davis & Associates,
to conduct foundation
investigation for the Civic Center parking structure. You do have
a written report with a recommendation. Mr. Fast, this is the
same firm that did the Civic Center?
Mr. Fast: Yes, it is.
Councilman Young: Mr. City Attorney is there any legal
situation with regard to requesting competi-
tive bids on this item?
Mr. Terzian: I will look into it. If you want an answer
City Attorney now I didn't know there was a question about it.
Mr. Aiassa: I can say that most of these firms like
architect firms feel their profession is
not bidable. If you want us to consult other
soil consultants we can, but we contacted this firm because they did
the overall analysis for the structures we are now occupying and
they have an understanding of the location, soil condition, etc.
Councilman Young: I know this firm and I like this firm - but
I would like to be like gaesar' s . wiffe;_i.n ,ahe
approach to it, on that account I would prefer
some knowledgeable representation that this is abetter deal than we can
get anywhere else. I would really prefer that. I am willing to go
along with this subject to the approval of the City Attorney that it
is a proper ;:proceeding and research can be done on it later if it is
passed. As a general policy I think we ought to be reasonably
assured that we are saving money if we don't put things out.to bid.
Mr. Aiassa: In other words it would be your suggestion
that we contact other organizations that do
this kind of foundation analysis, an
investigate on a comparison basis?
Councilman Young: Yes, see what their rates would be.
Mr. Aiassa: The only thing is we are fighting a time
element on it, but if this is agreeable to
soCouncil I will be glad to do that.
Councilman Young: I would so move. My motion would be that
prior to the acceptance of the recommendation
on Converse, Davis & Associates, that contact
be made with other firms in this particular field to determine their
prices for conducting the investigation required.
Seconded by Councilman Lloyd.
Councilman Lloyd: Is there a deadline date to be included?
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Mr. Aiassa: The sooner the better, but we will see
that we get some comparison bids.
Councilman Shearer: I am opposed to this type of a situation,
whether it be an engineer, architect, attorney,
or public relations firms, we are not
contracting for a product that we can look at and say this does meet
the plan because it is so long or so high, or green when we specified
green. The quality of the work can only be judged by someone else
looking at it and here we are asking for a man to analyze in this case -
dirt, and come up with some recommendations with regard to foundations,
etc. And to do that on a low bid basis I think is not wise.
We don't do this in respect to other
consultants that we hire. We have a man here that has done good
work, to my knowledge City Hall is not sunk on any corner, it is
still standing. For that reason, if I can convince two others to
vote "no" on this I will reintroduce a motion to approve the staff
recommendation.
Councilman Nichols: It seems to me that when you are dealing
with an architect or with an engineering firm
or with a number of the other type of
professional services that have come to this City we generally do
have the opportunity to learn what the basic rate structure is for
those types of services. Aichitect's fees are pretty well posted;
our engineering firms tell us what their rate are and what they
will charge, and we do have in fact here a type of service which the
Council is not familiar, so we really have no basis at all of know-
ing whether these charges are normal and reasonable charges. I
think really what Councilman Young is attempting to determine and
it would be my own feeling about it, is this firm in fact the
reliable firm in terms of services and price that it is being
recommended to Council as. I think staff has some obligation when
recommendations come up to the Council to vote money to.employ
certain people to perform certain jobs, to attempt in some way to
inform Council that the organization is in fact a reliable one
based upon certain known information. For all we know there may be
equally good firms that will do it for 50/ less.
I agree with you, Councilman Shearer, in the
area of professional services, we don't want to go to the low bid
type of procedure and I don't think that is what I would advocate
here, but I would ask some additional supporting data; statements
or documents, information to make me feel it is a wiser choice.
Earlier in the evening you wanted to know the location of a lot
size, price, etc., so you could make a decision that would provide
for you a basis for making a vote. In the same sense if we vote
this someone can come up and say - why did you choose that firm?
I think the same thesis can be applied here. I think we are
entitled to these bits of information to help us make wiser
decisions,.so if the motion doesn't mean go to a low bid but only
to seek additional data and information then I will vote for it.
Councilman Young: I think that is what the motion means and
go quite frankly my major source of concern
apart from what Mr. Nichols, points out
is the fact that Bob Davis is a good friend of mine, lives around
the corner from me, so I am sitting here voting in the dark more
or less and that is why I mentioned Caesar's wife.
Mr..Aiassa: If Council has no objections my staff will
analyze other soil consultants in relation
to this type -of project, and see if we are
within reason on the cost and if the cost is consistent and stays
within the same..realm we would like to stay with this firm that did
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the'original job at Civic Center. I can see the Councilmen's point,
in the fact that this is only one firm and one bid. I also think
Mr. Shearer does have a point. When you deal with professionals
they are very sensitive when you start calling for bids on a
competitive basis. They feel they have established a certain amount
of know-how and training and background and you h re:.them on that
basis and they are morally responsible to do a good job.
I don't want to hold up the project, if we
give it to you in writing and show you that an analyses has been
made as to comparative prices, etc.,.....
Mayor Chappell: I do have one question. The last sentence,
second paragraph, it says that "certain
needed information for the structure is already contained in the re-
cord...." and this indicates to me that perhaps another firm coming
in here and doing the same job would have to give us an additional
cost to develop the same information we already have contained.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: Councilman Shearer
ABSENT: None
APPOINTMENT OF Mr. Aiassa: As Council knows there is
CRIMINALIST a normal procedure followed
on this matter and I reviewed
it with the Personnel Board. This is a specialized position.-' I.
talked to Mr. Cadman who heads the Orange County Lab. I would like
to appoint Mr. Moses, he is on our Eligibility List of one candidate,
after trying twice to recruit this position. We also went the
route to get the County to send one of their men over to utilize our
facility which didn't work and we also instituted a contract agree-
ment with other cities to maintain this type of an operation and
we also have the Federal Grant assisting us in the furbishing
of the lab. There is only one comment I would have and that is I
do not want to appoint Mr. Moses under Range 33a - C step, but
appoint him in the D range which is an exempt position and I
recommended to the Personnel Board members that we proceed on that
basis and make the position effective February 1. The salary will
be $1200.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Aiassa, would you explain for the
benefit of the Council the use of the term
"exempt position"?
Mr. Aiassa: All Department Heads and Assistant
Department Heads are in the exempt position
category and that means they are not under
the civil service procedures with regard to hearings, etc. This
also means that under the D range we eliminate'the 5 steps and
Mr. Moses' salary can be adjusted within the D range. If we retain
him at 33a then I have only the 5 steps for negotiation, if
negotiation should be necessary. He does have to go through a
training program of 90 days and this also allows me the opportunity
of a year's probation to see if he can really do the job. The big
step will be whether this testimony can be accepted professionally
in court. This is a factor that is somewhat complex. Mr. Moses
can do the analyses tests required, but to testify - this is where
it gets rather delicate. Normally the man that heads the lab
affirms himself as the expert and then has his assistant or 'agent
or a person recognized by him, testify. I talked to Jack Cadman
and he is very impressed with Mr. Moses and feels his qualifications
are very high. He is now training a woman that has a Masters
Degree in chemistry and a couple of other 'aretLs--related to crime
and he feels it takes about 90 days for them to become expertise
enough to testify.
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CITY MGR.: APPOINTMENT OF CRIMINALIST
I would like approval from Council to hire
Mr. Moses at a salary of $1200. a month in the D range commencing
February 1.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman`.Young, authorizing
• the City Manager to hire Albert Moses at a salary of $1200.00 a
month under Range D (exempt position classification) commencing
February 1, 1972.
Mayor Chappell: This information came to us in -special
envelopes, should these be returned
to you at the end of the meeting?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes, we would like to have the material back.
Councilman Shearer: A question. A person in an exempt position
status, I would like more clarification on
this statement "that they are not under
civil service" if I understood that answer correctly. If that was
the statement, how far reaching is that? Civil Service gives
certain rights and privileges such as the right of appeal - does
a person in an exempt position have no appeal rights?
Mr. Aiassa: He has no appeal rights. His rights are
at the mercy of myself; over whom you have
power. It does give management the tool to.
operate because now that you are in negotiations with employees
who are actually requesting through different groups different
demands, management should have that prerogative as far as individuals.
If*he is covered under civil service he can join labor and beat
management at its own game of negotiations and meet and confer.
This is a very unique and highly technical position and I don't think
there will be anybody else qualifying for the position and that is
why I'am putting it under the exempt category, so I have room to
negotiate. We are also concerned with the grant from the Federal
Government and with the contract participation of other cities.
Councilman Shearer: Has this been (discussed with Mr. Moses,
that he will not come in under civil service
rules?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes I have discussed it, he understandsit,
he is in the audience tonight.
(Introduced Mr. Moses and Mayor Chappell thanked him for coming to,
the meeting.)
douncilman Shearer: On that basis and with the understanding,
and obviously there must be an understanding
because he is here, I will vote on this item.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
soAMENDMENT TO EMERGENCY Mr. Aiassa: You have a copy of .the
EMPLOYMENT ACT' subagreement and staff
SECTION 6 SUBAGREEMENT recommends the adoption.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer, to adopt
the amendment to the Emergency Employment Act, Section 6, Subagreement.
Councilman Shearer: Mr. Aiassa, do you have any idea when we
might be advised from Washington as to
whether this program will be funded beyond
the termination date of November 1? Do you have any idea when we
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CITY MGR.: SUBAGREEMENT TO EMERGENCY EMPLOYMENT ACT
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Shearer:
productive work and if
information as to the
Councilman Lloyd:
Mr. Eliot, do you want to cast a prediction?
We feel we will get an'initial indication,
in quotes "after the primary".
My concern is that we are coming to budget
time and this might affect how we budget
money. We have 26 people hopefully doing
we wanted to keep them on we would need
source of funding.
we lost the money, they
going to .build it in and
going to bring in the 26
this was not to be.
I think both you and I had comments on that
and the City Manager assured us we would not
be stuck with these 26 people in anyway. If
would go. What I am saying is we are not
then suddenly have to figure out how we are
people we hadn't counted Win. We understood
Councilman Shearer: Yes, I understand that. All I am saying is
if we want to keep 26 people for the full
year make sure that we have some idea of
where the money is coming from, whether it is coming from us or
the Federal Government.
Mr. Aiassa: I would say this, that your 72-73 budget
if it is conceivable and possible that we
would keep these people the money would have to be budgeted and
you would then have the right, one way or the other to approve or
disapprove, but we are anticipating that the budgeting of these
26 people will be paid elsewhere.
Councilman Nichols: Let's interject a point._he.re that is very
important. That this program is for the
employment of people iiot-,6therwise employed
and if the City Manager and Council included in the budget funds
to employ these people it might prejudice any grants that might be
forthcoming in that area. So I think we would have to look at
this very carefully before putting any funds in the budget.
Mr. Aiassa: And the main reason for the PEP program
is really the retraining of certain people
to be able to take jobs in comparable
positions, so this will be a deciding factor in the possible
continuing of the program. I am not going to deny that there is
not going to be requests for additional personnel but I am still
faced with the same problem if PEP never existed, because I go
through that every year.
Motion carried.
REQUEST FOR LEAVE OF Mr. Aiassa: This item is a request for
ABSENCE WITHOUT PAY leave of absence without pay
and it requires Council action.
Council does have a written report and a staff recommendation.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and
so carried, approving the request for leave of absence without pay
for Mrs. Rose Belair for the period beginning January 10, 1972,
and ending March 9, 1972.
REQUEST FOR Mr. Aiassa: Council has received a written
APPOINTMENT OF AN report with regard to the
INTERIM SYMPHONY resigning of Mr. King, and
ORCHESTRA a request for the appointment
CONDUCTOR of an interim symphony orchestra conductor.
for the balance of the year.
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CITY MGR.: Symphony Orchestra Conductor
Councilman Nichols: I would like to make an observation on this
item, Mr. Mayor. I have been personally
wondering now for a full month, since I read in the newspaper that
Mr. King resigned, as to why he had resigned and I do not recall
receiving the information at any point. I have it now in front of
• me tonight - January 24th - a copy of his letter dated December 22nd.
I think it would be real helpful to me when rather significant
events occur in the City, although the letter may not be directed to
the Council, Council does get inquiries from citizens that have
read of the incident in the newspaper, and so that Council may be
better informed I think sometimes slipping copies of these more
pertinent things in our mail would be appreciated.
Mayor Chappell: Are there any other questions?
Councilman Shearer: Yes, I am not convinced and I think I made
this discussion at the time we entered into
a contract with Mr. King, .- the
necessity for the City to enter into a contract with one man to
conduct an orchestra and we have a West Covina Symphony
Orchestra Board of Directors with a President. It seems to me if
the City is going to financially contribute to the orchestra society
that it should be up to the orchestra society to appoint a director,
buy music or do whatever they want with the funds that we provide
just as we do with the Chamber of Commerce. The Chamber of Commerce
recently appointed, I believe, an assistant director and they didn't
come and say to us is it alright? I just don't see the need for us
having a contract with the man. It seems to me it should be with
the Society and if they don't produce enough concerts, etc., then
cancel our antract with the Society and not the individual.
I feel more strongly this time around than
I did last time and not that I have anything against Mr. Green
because I don't know who is, but I don't agree with the concept of
the contract with the individual. I think it should be with the
Board of Directors.
Councilman Nichols: In that I couldn't convince Councilman
Shearer last time I will let him convince
me. I think he is absolutely right. I think
in the early stages when the Society was trying to get started we
felt-there-was`'a ii-�tle.more justification in having the contract
between the City and the conductor in order to have the Recreation
and Parks Department take a little more of a "mother hen" approach,
but enough time has gone by now and it seems to me if the Society
is ever going to stand on its own two feet it should take the
responsibility for its contractural obligations and we should
provide what support we do as we do with others.
Mayor Chappell:
We are meeting with the Recreation & Parks
Commission shortly and this should be an
item that should be put on the agenda.
The request here is to
hire to June 30th and I think we can pass
on this motion tonight
and in. our talk with the Commission come
up with some firm recommendations in regard to this.
Councilman Nichols:
You are saying issue this contract on this
basis and then discuss it so at the end of
the fiscal budget year we can entertain a
different approach?
Mayor Chappell:
Yes, that would be my thinking.
Councilman Nichols:
I don't find that too offensive as long as
we get it on that agenda and talk it out.
Councilman Shearer:
I will go along with that.
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CITY MGR.: Symphony Orchestra Conductor
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Young, to
approve the contract with Mr. Robert L. Green for providing services
as the interim West Covina Symphony Orchestra Director ending
June 30, 1972, and authorize the Mayor to execute the same.
. Councilman Young: I wonder if the Society considers itself a
contracting entity. I don't think it is
incorporated. It is kind of an'informal
body to begin with. I don't know how far along they have gone in
that respect. The program itself is still somewhat in the
experimental stages. I think Councilman Shearer's points are
very well taken and that certainly should be the direction to move
in and hopefully move out of the business of having to put in money.
Mayor Chappell: Will you look into this, Mr. Aiassa?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes, this was one of the elements that came
up in the discussion, they were supposed to
have a year's trial with City subsidy to get
the group off the ground and then become self-supporting. My
suggestion is that we support the man for 90 days and in the meantime
when we have our meeting with the Recreation and Parks Commission we
can discuss it further and let them come up with a recommendation
for a permanent basis.
Motion carried on
AYES: Councilmen:
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
SCHOOL DISTRICT REQUEST
roll call vote as follows:
Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
along with a recommendation.
long as the communication is
have adequate assurance that
Mr. Aiassa: The City Council has
received a lengthy
written report on this
(Read recommendation.) I believe as
prepared by the City Attorney you will
you will be protected.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, to approve the preparing of a communication, subject to
approval of the City Attorney and to be signed by the Chairman of
the Redevelopment Agency and the Executive Director, setting forth
the generalgoal's of the City with regard to the CBD redevelopment,
and expressing the willingness of the City to meet with the West
Covina Unified School District and the Mount San Antonio College to
consider the potential for sharing of tax increment flow at such time
that such flow exceeds the obligations of the Redevelopment Agency
to meet its commitments.
Councilman Young: This does not involve any commitment on the
part of the City at all?
Mr. Aiassa: No.
CITY ATTORNEY
Mr. Terzian: As Mr. Aiassa indicated I do have one
of additional item, a resolution.
RESOLUTION TKO. 4514 "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEPTING THE CORPORA-
TION GRANT DEED EXECUTED BY DONALD L. BREN
COMPANY AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF."
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer and
carried, to waive the full reading of body of said Resolution.
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RES. DONALD L. BREN CO.
Page Twenty-five
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Nichols, to
adopt said Resolution.
Councilman Lloyd: Why do we have to do this in this big of a
rush?
• Mr. Aiassa: It was unintentionally left off the agenda,
actually it is just a routine thing.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
CITY CLERK
CLAIM FOR DAMAGES RE. Accident 10/31/71, WC Parkway
Ewald & Angeline Ogilview and Vincent Avenue.
1223 East Grovecenter St.,
14est Covina
4.
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Nichols, to deny
and:refer` claim to the City°s Insurance Carrier.
Councilman Lloyd: Would you explain what happened, Mr. Aiassa?
Is this the accident that occurred over the
weekend?
Mr. Aiassa: No, this occurred on October 31, 1971, on
West Covina Parkway and Vincent Avenue
between a private car and the--Frre Department
Station Wagon.
Motion carried.
CITY REASURER°S REPORT
December, 1971. Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by
Councilman Young and carried, to receive
and file.
MAYOR'S REPORTS
PROCLAMATIONS: Mayor Chappell: If there are no
objections I
will proclaim "National Salesmen's Week"
February 6-12, 1972. (No objections, so proclaimed.)
CITY OF CQVINA LETTER Mayor Chappell: I have a letter
RE. JOINT MEETING from the Mayor of
AGENDA Covina suggesting the agenda for the joint
meeting on January 31, 1972. Are there any
questions regarding the recommendation from Mayor Haven?
Councilman Lloyd: Yes, Mr. Mayor. The vagueness of the letter
of course precludes understanding the
go specifics they are talking about. They are
talking about fire services, annexation problems, cooperative pur-
chasing, etc. We have been a year and a half aborning of bringing
this matter together. Does our staff have any specifics or any
recommendations on this?
Mr. Aiassa: No, I have not.
Mayor Chappell: What do you want, a tightening up of this?
Councilman Lloyd: Well yes, they are suggesting all of the
stuff - do we have any input we want to put
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CITY HALL 1/24/72
MAYOR'S REPORTS: City of Covina Agenda
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Lloyd:
Mayor Chappell:
Yes, we have the
West Covina, but
the City Council.
Page Twenty-six
245 meters located in
this is their letter to
Then we will see another letter on this?
Yes and if Council has anything they want
on the agenda please communicate with the
City Manager.
COUNCIL COMMITTEE Councilman Shearer: The comment I have
REPORTS has to do with the
Traffic Committee recommendation regarding
the crosswalk at Azusa and Pima, "Upon
completion of the sidewalk construction, remove the school crosswalk
at Pima Avenue and install signs directing pedestrians to the
signal -protected crossing at Lark Ellen Avenue." I would like to
suggest that the recommendation at this time at least not be made
official and upon completion of the sidewalk construction
the principal, vice-principal, members of the PTA, concerned
mothers, etc., can see the condition of the site afid then take up
the question of whether or not we wish to remove the crosswalk.
If there are no objections ? .
Mayor Chappell: Are there any objections or further comments?
Councilman Shearer: I will make that in the form of a motion.
s
Seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried,
Councilman Nichols voting "no".
Councilman Nichols: The item I had was on the light, the
"red intervals" and it has been answered
so I move the approval of that item.
Seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried.
Councilman Lloyd: I attended a SCAG meeting with regards to
airports = and while West Covina doesn't
have very much to say on it there are
studies concerning build up of traffic movement throughout the
United States involving military airports and the expansion of
Ontario, etc. If anybody wishes a full report I will be more than
glad.to submit it.
Councilman Young: I am wondering if other members of the
Council received a letter from
Assemblyman Campbell in the last few days.
I know Councilman Nichols did. It relates to the fact we still
have an opportunity to participate or have a voice to bring
pressure to bear with respect to the reapportionment, which I know
is of great interest to Mayor Chappell. The idea of having our
City represented in the legislature as a unit by one assemblyman
and -one state senator, if possible. In any event we have expressed
ourselves in the past, have we forwarded our expression to Sacramento
and is there a record of it there?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes, in writing. This was forwarded to
Lt. Reinecke's committee.
Councilman Lloyd: That is not an effective committee anymore.
Mr. Aiassa: I think it might be advisable to take the
same communication and forward to Assemblyman
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COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS
Page Twenty-seven
Campbell, Senator Schabarum and Senator Harvey Johnson.
So moved by Councilman Young, seconded by
Councilman Nichols.
• Mayor Chappell: I haven't received that letter I would like
to see it.
Councilman Young: I think it might be well gentlemen - this
letter did include a resolution that the
City of Pomona had adopted or some local
city - I think it might be well if we not only send the letter
as suggested but also adopt a formal resolution.
Mayor Chappell: Can we have a heading for the resolution
Mr. City Attorney?
Mr. Terzian: Yes, and shouldn't it go to the Reapportion-
ment Committee and both the Senate and
Assembly?
Mayor Chappell: Yes, and we want to state that we would
like West Covina represented by one State
Senator and one Assemblyman rather than the
four now proposed and the three we now have.
RESOLUTION NO. 4515 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA URGING THAT ANY
REAPPORTIONMENT PLAN FOR THE CALIFORNIA STATE
LEGISLATURE PROVIDE THAT THE CITY OF WEST COVINA BE LOCATED
ENTIRELY WITHIN ONE ASSEMBLY DISTRICT AND ONE SENATORIAL DISTRICT,"
Motion by Councilman'Ltoyd,.seconded by Councilman Young and carried,
to -,waive full reading of the body of said resolution.
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, -to adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen: Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Counci ban Young: A point of order, Mr. Mayor. I am glad to
see us adopt that resolution, but I think
there was another motion pending that we
kind of slid by; namely, the recent letter - may that motion be
deemed to be withdrawn from the record'.
Mr. Aiassa: Councilman Young, it might be advisable to
attach that as an extra exhibit showing that
we did appear at all committees and all
people concerned.....
Councilman Young: The motion is hereby remade.
Seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried.
DEMANDS Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by
Councilman Shearer, to approve Demands
totaling $325,266.66 as appearing on
Demand -Sheets C789 through 791, total includes payroll. Motion
carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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ADJOURNMENT Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by
Councilman Young and carried, to adjourn
meeting at 10:15 p.m., to Monday,
January 31, 1972, at 7:30 p.m., for a joint meeting with Covina
City Council at North Woods Inn.
MAYOR
ATTEST:
CITY CLERK