10-13-1970 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
OCTOBER 13, 1970.
it The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order at
7:33 P.M., by Mayor Ken Chappell in the West Covina Council
Chambers. The Pledge of Allegiance was given by Councilman Nichols.
The invocation was given by the Reverend Konrad'Koosman of Christ
Lutheran Church.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Chappell; Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young
Lloyd
Others Present: George Wakefield, City Attorney
Lela Preston, City Clerk
George Aiassa, City Manager
H. R. Fast, Public Services Director
Richard Munsell, Planning Director
George Zimmerman, City Engineer
Ross Nammar, Administrative An
Terry Brandt, Administrative Analyst) Jr.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
September 28, 1970 Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by
Councilman Shearer, and carried, -approving the
minutes of the adjourned regular meeting, as
submitted.
September 28, 1970 Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Council-
man Young, approving minutes of the regular
meeting of Council as corrected.
Councilman Shearer: A correction on Page 1.8, second paragraph from
the bottom, "defense facility" should read
"detention facility."
Mr. Aiassa: On Page 22 the proper name is "Walter Laband...
Motion carried.
September 29, 1970 Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Council-
man Young, and carried, approving minutes of the
adjourned regular meeting as submitted.
PRESENTATION
To Lela Preston Presentation made to Lela Preston, City Clerk,
City Clerk by Elsie Redline, President of the West Covina
Professional Business Women°s Group, in
recognition of Lela:Preston's outstanding civic service to the City
of West Covina for the past twenty years, first as Deputy City Clerk
and then as City Clerk. The presentation being made in the nationwide
salute to career women who are being honored and recognized in the
week of October 18th to the 24th. (Plaque read and presented to the
City Clerk.) Mayor Chappell and Council congratulated Mrs. Preston
on her award of recognition.
AWARD'OF BIDS
PROJECT NO..TS-71006-1 LOCATION: Intersection of Amar Road and
TRAFFIC SIGNAL MODI- Azusa Avenue
FICATiON. Council reviewed Engineer's report.
The City Clerk advised bids were received in the office of the City
Clerk at 10:00 A.M., on October 7, 1970. Bids were checked and
found to be in order:
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Award of Bids - TS 71006-1
Page Two
Smith Electric Supply, Stanton $2,591.00
C.T. & F. Inc., Bell Gardens $4,019.00
Steiny'& Company, Los Angeles $4,585.00
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Shearer, and
carried, awarding contract to Smith Electric Supply of Stanton,
California, and authorizing the Mayor and City Clerk to execute
contract agreement.:
BID NO. 71-30
MOBILE RADIO EQUIPMENT
and
BID NO. 71-31
HAND HELD PORTABLE
RADIOS & ACCESSORIES
PUBLIC WORKS ITEMS
Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Mayor and
Councilmen, both of
these bids are requested by the Controller
to be held over to the meeting of
October 19, 1970.
So moved by Councilman Lloyd, seconded
by Councilman Young, and carried.
a
UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT LOCATION: Cameron Avenue, easterly of
NO. 135 Toluca Avenue.
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young, and
carried, accepting sewer and street improvements and authorizing the
release of The Ohio Casualty Insurance Company faithful performance
bond No. 1478-818-5 in the amount of $5,700.
PROJECT NO. SP-68017 LOCATION: Cameron Avenue, Hollenbeck Street
APPROVING PLANS & to Citrus Avenue.
SPECIFICATIONS FOR STREET Council reviewed Engineer's report.
RECONSTRUCTIDT
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by
Councilman Young, and carried, authorizing exchange of right-of-way for
improvements.
RESOLUTION NO. 4241 The City Clerk presented,.
ADOPTED 11A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF WEST COVINA, ACCEPTING A GRANT
DEED EXECUTED BY EDWARD H. AND ESTHER C.
WALTERS, AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF."
Mayor Chappell: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, adopting
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, and carried,
approving plans and specifications and authorizing the City Engineer
to call for.bids.
Mr. Aiassa: A special note of appreciation to Councilman
Lloyd, he assisted us in the right-of-way
with Mr. Walters, having a long-time personal
relationship with Mr. Walters.
Mayor Chappell: I think that is really outstanding. I have
been pushing this corner for a couple of years
and I am glad to see that Councilman Lloyd was
able to provide the dedication needed.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
Action of Oct. 7, 1970 Council reviewed action.
Councilman Shearer: Mr. Mayor, a question of staff. Has item 5 been
appealed?
Mr. Munsell: No. I have had discussion with the .applicant
Planning Director today with no clear—cut determination as to
whether an appeal will be made.
Councilman Shearer: I was in attendance at the last.Planning
Commission meeting where Item .5, pertaining to
the Unclassified Use Permit No. 163 - Ettie Lee
Homes, Inc., the facility on Vincent Avenue, was discussed in length.
Approximately three hours, quite a controversial issue and one we may
all hear about. It is a situation that I think, whether it is
appealed or not, it is one that the other Councilmen might look into
by reading the minutes. I think it is potentially a very hot issue
in the City, which might go away and then again it may not. I think
the more we are involved in what has taken place will be of help in
any future decisions.
Councilman Lloyd: Did you feel this is an item that will come
before us again?
Councilman Shearer: Potentially it is an item that may be appealed.
Mr. Munsell stated he has had discussion with
the applicant and I believe he has another ten
days or so.
Mr. Munsell: Yes, twenty days from the night of the hearing
before the Planning Commission.
Councilman Shearer: So he has another two weeks and there is a
better than 50-50 chance that he might appeal
and there are some things brought out at
the hearing that I think might be of interest.
Councilman Young: With respect to Zone Change 445 and Precise Plan
598 - I don't particularly want to call up the
Precise Plan, but would point out that the zone
change itself has to come up - and I wonder what the consensus of
Council would be under the circumstances to also see the Precise Plan
so we see the entire pi:ture.
Councilman Nichols: The Precise Plan would be null and void if
the zone change were .not granted and is it
your thought that the Precise Plan could
bear on the zone change?
Councilman Young: I would think so.
Councilman Nichols: The fact is we are not allowed to consider
the use of the land at the same time we con-
sider the zoning and I wonder perhaps if we
attempted to direct the Precise Plan to a hearing at the time we
bring up a zone change if we might prejudice any decision the
Council might make.
Mr. Wakefield: If my recollection is correct with reference
City Attorney to this particular item, the Precise Plan will
accompany the change of zone, so they will both
be before Council. This is a S;-C zone.
Councilman Young: Is this information - where it says it may be
called up by City Council - is this erroneous and
it will just automatically be before us?
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Mr. Munsell: That is correct. The S-C zone does require
that a precise plan accompany it,primarily
because it abuts single family homes. This
is our answer to strip commercial zoning and it gives Council the
best opportunity to insure there is no damaging. happenings.
Councilman Young: If it comes up anyhow I will drop the point
with that explanation.
Councilman Nichols: May I clarify - is it just the S-C zone
where the precise p.lan.must..-accompany it?
Mr. Munsell : The commercial+-.zofies-,r.equ re-.thg;ptecise=.plans
but,,;the only:,.,zone=".that-regtires it to
automatically at-' the c,tme: of zone change
would be the S-C zone.
Motion by Councilman'Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, receiving and filing action of Planning Commission of
October 7, 1970.
PERSONNEL BOARD
Minutes of Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by
September 1, 1970 Councilman Young, and carried, to receive
and file.
Establishment of' Mr. Aiassa:
Sr. Custodian Classifi-
cation
Councilman Young: I have one question.
dollars?
If Council has any
question, I do have
Mr. Windsor here
tonight.
What is the 19a Range in
Mr. Windsor: That is $555. through $675.
Councilman Young: What is the differential?
Mr. Windsor: 5/ and in dollars approximately $45.00.
Mr. -Aiassa:
I would
like to advise Council
that
the reason
this is
being considered is the
day
shift does
have a
supervisor and the swing
shift
does most of
the cleaning of the
public buildings
and has no leadman.
We felt,with
a person supervising
the time
cards would be correct
and
the work
would be done.
Councilman Shearer: I will make a motion but there is .a part of
the recommendation that I am going to intentionally
leave out and that is the portion pertaining to
the manner in which the position is to be filled with existing staff
and each custodian be given a trial period. I feel this is fine if
administratively that is what you want�but it should not be made a part
of the recommendation of City Council.
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, approving
the position of Senior Custodian at a salary range of 19a.
Councilman Nichols: I certainly go along with the recommendation
although I am a bit intrigued at the thought
of moving up men, qualified by being alive and
present, into the position for a trial period. I would think there
would be someone in a supervisory position that would make the
selection for promotion rather than have everyone try out for the job.
Mr. Windsor:
This is to be done on a performance testa
Mr. Aiassa: We feel it is going to be rather difficult to
spell out the specific details. This man will
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Five
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Sr. Custodian
be working
a shift and in addition to his duties
he will
be the
leadman for
the crew on that shift and that is why we are
giving
him the 5/.
We do have an idea of who could do
the job
but we
would like
to give them all a chance and also we
want a
little
time to experiment.
Motion carried.
Police Officer Job
Specifications
Modification
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Young: Would it be a proper
generalization to say
that this is somewhat
relaxing the standards of our hiring policy?
No, it is more of an upgrading of our standards.
Mr. Windsor: In further explanation, they are spelling out
15 college units will berequired whether you
have a high school diploma or a G.E.D., so in
that respect we are upgrading, but we are relaxing in the area of
where individuals have direct experience in police work and not the
full 15 units of college. At present we do not require what type
of college units, so we do feel that the experience factor is more
requiring than the college units.
Councilman Young: It seems to me we have in the minutes of the
Personnel Board, an indication of something
of a heavy turnover in the police department,
and to me this might be a little bit of an obstacle, along with
the thought that we are coming more and more,f ace to face, with
rising costs and a very competitive situation of obtaining personnel.
Mr. Windsor: The intent is to get the best men for the job.
Mr. Aiassa: As the job description has been written,
prior to this amendment, we would not evaluate
the correlated experience of a candidate and
we found out we were automatically scratching off potential candidates
not having the 15 college units.
Councilman Lloyd: I think we are facing the situation stated by
Councilman Young and I wholeheartedly agree with
his contentions and I believe in hiring these
people we have to become competitive and competitive in the area of
expertiseyand that is exactly what Mr. Windsor is pushing.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Windsor, the options listed here, A to E;
I assume this is intended that these are
various methods by which the person can come
in. A, indicates 6 college semester units which is very minimum,
and completion of approved police academy training. The police
academy training is subsequent to employment?
Mr. Windsor:
Councilman Nichols:
Mr. Windsor:
Yes.
So actually you can hire a man with 6 college
units?
Yes, if he has experience with another
jurisdiction'.'
Councilman Nichols: This then would mean he must have completed
his academy training and then what would be
the provision under A for gaining the addi-
tional 9 units?
Mr. Windsor: The Department can require that the man complete
the units during probation, which is 18 months.
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Page Six
Councilman Nichols:
Mr. Windsor:
Can or must?
No, it is 'may."
Councilman Nichols: This provision then states the fact if a man
has been employed in another police depart-
ment or in some fashion has attended a
police academy and if he has 6 college units he may be employed
and never thereafter be required to take..further college units.
Mr. Windsor: Yes,on the basis that the academy training
grants so many college units and Mr. Gold
has an attachment here showing if you have
training in a particular academy that you get college credit for
that.
Councilman Nichols: I would say that this does reflect a reduction
in academic requirements. I am not knocking
it, I think sometimes we put requirements in
that are not particularly germane to the qualifications.' I would
like to reflect my feeling that it is a somewhat diminution:..
of the previous college requirement.
Mr. Windsor: In order for the -,man to move up to become a
Sergeant he must gain additional college units.
So there are those incentives in the position.
Mr. Aiassa: They also have the provision that he must
meet certain requirements during his probation
period -otherwise they can continue his probation
or he will be terminated.
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Councilman Nichols: The only area where I see any inconsistency
is between A and B, where you employ a man
without the police academy training which
generally has a value of 3 units and you employ him requiring 9
units and you make it mandatory in the employment requirement that
he achieve the 6 additional units in the first 18 months, but for
this man with 9 college units and no police academy training you
will send him to the academy and in addition require him to take
additional units during the 18 months; whereas under A you may hire
a man that has 6 units only and has been to the academy and he may
be excused from taking any additional work. This seems to be a
inconsistency in personnel policy. Again I am prepared to accept
this if staff has carefully analyzed and is prepared to live with
this type of differential.
Mr. Aiassa: There is only one thing we have not discussed;
the man with the academy training and 6 units
of college must have had some work experience
because he cannot get this without being employed as a police officer
and this is the area we have been neglecting to recruit from - the
employee that just wants to make a move to West Covina.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, accepting the Police Officer job specifications modifica-
tion as recommended by the Personnel Board.
Consultant Proposal Mr. Aiassa: As you know we do
Re Administrative have a volunteer
Review Committee Administrative Review
Recommendations Committee composed of employees and there were
certain positions questionable for restudy .and
re-evaluation as of November 1. We�-feel these
positions should:be...reviewed:-and restudied by Mr. Gold and he has
given us a cost breakdown_.
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Pers. Bd. - Consultant Proposal
Councilman Lloyd: I am a little concerned - I believe we just
had a review by the consultant.
Mr. Aiassa: That was for the total positions with regard
to salary and at that time there were some
positions, due to the length of time and
the experience of some of the employees placed in those positions,
which were held over for a re -review and restudy at this date.
The money for this re-evaluation was provided for in the budget.
Councilman Lloyd: Is it the intention of administration to con-
duct a complete review every so many years?
Mr. Aiassa: Our thinking is approximately,, -every two years.
These positions are carryovers from the last
study; we never did come to a final determina-
tion.
Councilman Lloyd: What is it costing us for each of these studies?
Mr. Windsor: Councilman Lloyd, the major classification
study you were referring to was conducted in
1969. We did not have one in connection with
the 1970-71 salary study, therefore the Administrative Review
Committee took the place of the salary consultant.
Councilman Lloyd: Is it necessary for us, in an administrative
personnel function, to have this type of review
or would it be possible to go to a cost -of -
living approach. My question before you is how much does it cost us
each time you do this?
Mr. Windsor: It depends on the complexity of the issue to
be studied. This one is quite small - $925.
Mr. Aiassa: I think what Councilman .Lloyd would like to
know - The Administrative Review Board has
met and talked to each one of these employees.
The Review Committee consists of employees, 8 or 9, and they listen
to the employee demands, grievances, etc., and this is then passed
on to administration and administration makes the decision whether
or not it is necessary for a professional study to see whether the
job specification complies with the job being performed. We are
only talking about 7 positions, I believe.
Mr. Windsor: In one case we are talking about an individual,
but in terms of positions 7 to 10 in all.
CouncilmaB.Llo_y.d: If administration says we need this and it must
be done I am prepared to support it, but I am
questioning. from a policy point of view, the
necessity of doing a review every two years. I obviously don't
understand fully what you are talking about. It seems to me if you
had a review in 1969 and then in 1971 we can anticipate going up
about 6% or thereabouts as done in 170 that sort of comes through
to me not like a review - but am I being unfair - are we talking
apples and oranges?
Mr. Windsor: Yes, there are also classification problems.
Mr. Aiassa: There are two evaluations provided by the
consultant, one is a straight salary analysis
and the other is both salary and classification
analysis, which we had in 1969. And this is when the Police Depart-
ment job descriptions became an issue which we decided to review and
analyze.
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Pers. Bd. - Consultant Proposal
Councilman Lloyd: All.right, at the present moment then we have
looked at salaries and now we are turning
around and .looking at job classifications?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes, but only on these 7 to 10 positions.
Councilman Lloyd: Well how often are we going to do this?
Mr. Aiassa: In 1970-71 staff will review and will make
a report to the Personnel Board if a re-
classification study is necessary and they
will study and then recommend to City Council. But at this time
this is completing the contract we set up in 1969, they are the
hang-ons that we were not able to tackle and solve at that time.
Councilman Lloyd: I am not sure whether I am in an administra-
tive matter or policy matter, but I think we
will have to review this later on down the
line.
Councilman Young: Mr. Mayor - having sat on the Personnel Board
a couple of years back and seeing the result
of the Board's work this past year, I think
absolute restraintwas exercised by this city in salary increases
and I am well aware of the work of Mr. Gold, the consultant, in
giving the employees an ear and working in their behalf and the
City°s behalf and really working for a program we can all live with.
I have no hesitation whatsoever in supporting the staff request
tonight and I will have no hesitation, assuming there is no
traumatic change;in events, in supporting future requests along this
line. I feel a survey is very.much needed at times.
Councilman Shearer: I have a question regarding the letter dated
September 29th from Mr. Gold, Page 2, he makes
a statement under the topic "Proposal for Other
Study Areas" stating "you will receive tomorrow our -'.proposals for
conducting studies in the areas of Salaries., Fringe Benefits, and
Salary Differentials requested by the City Manager." Has such a
letter been received and what are we talking about in the way of
additional proposals above the $925.00?
Mr. Windsor: Yes we have and this would relate to a
possible study for the 1970-71 fiscal period.
We were asking for some -preliminary data
from Mr. Gold, so we could determine whether we should go to the
Personnel Board and request this kind of professional study and then
perhaps we will ask for competitive bids from the -people in the..field.
Mr.,Aiassa: There is a further answer to .that, in that
at this moment Mr. Gold would like to continue
his services with the City, and took this
opportunity of submitting a proposal forthe 1970-71 year, thus
indicating he would like to be considered. The .staff has not gone
into any phase or review of his proposal. And normally we will
have four to five other proposals.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City
Council accept the consultant proposal as recommended by the
Administrative Review Committee and the Personnel Board and that an
appropriation not to exceed $925. be expended from the Personnel
Budget Account 121-710-53 (Contractural Account) for this review.
Motion carried on roll call_ vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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(City Council determined that due to the number of people present
interested in the Umark Water System Acquisition, that this matter
would be taken out of context of the agenda and heard at this time.)
CITY MANAGER
UMARK WATER SYSTEM Mr. Aiassa: We have received a letter
ACQUISITION from Umark°s representative
follows:
now on the
1970, We
your next
Kerry Patterson dated
October 8, reading as
"The subject, Umark, Inc. - Proposed Water Agreement, is
agenda for the scheduled council meeting of October 13,
respectfully request that you continue this matter to
regularly scheduled meeting."
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that
this letter request be accepted.
Councilman Shearer: Mr. Mayor - I want to go on record, and perhaps
this information can be relayed to
Mr. Patterson, I for one do not want to find
myself in the position of being told that we have a time limit
and we have to do something. We had this scheduled for the 5th of
October, then the 13th of October, and now the 19th, which is fine
and I appreciate the problems, but I don't want all the time taken
up with Mr. Patterson's people and then have him tell .us we have to
accept it or be out. When I am presented with such a proposition4"
I usually take the negative attitude and I am.o.ut.
Mr. Aiassa: I would like to advise Council that when the
19th arrives and we find we are the sole
participators - we will have time to discuss.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor, I think Council clearly indicated
at the last meeting that if the circumstances
as expressed at that meeting were confirmed
for the Council that the Council°s position would be that the City
of West Covina should not enter.the water business. In fact that
if the stated intention of the Rowland County Area District and
the Suburban was correct as stated and they were able to provide
water to the area the Council would not be willing to compete
with those entities in that respect. Evidently the negotiations
such as they may be are not clarified as yet for Council. So I
think the obvious and appropriate thing would be to honor the
request of Umark and carry it over. I have some understanding
that Umark is having discussions with some of the principals
involved and I think carrying it over would bean appropriate thing.
(Question from audience of Council asking whether a further letter
sent to Council in this respect would be read. Mr. Aiassa advised:
this letter was under Written.Communicati:ons.,-Item e.)
Motion carried holding over to October.19th.
Councilman Young: Mr. Mayor, as long as, I believe it is
Mr. Austin, is speaking here in the audience,
I wonder if his letter might not appropriately
be referred to the City Attorney for consideration.
Mr. Aiassa: _Yes, and the only reason we referred it to
the City Manager's agenda was if we had
followed the normal sequence you would not
have been to my agenda until this had been brought up and it was
then going to be suggested to be referred to the City Attorney.
Councilman Young: In that case, if there are no objections, I
would make a motion that we fe-fer this letter
to the City Attorney for his opinion and
report at the next Council meeting.
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Umark Water System Acquisition
Seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried.
Mayor Chappell: It might be mentioned at this time that we
have m as many of you know - an item on the
agenda called "Oral Communications" which
usually comes up around 9 or 9.30 P.M., and at that time you may
speak on any subject of interest to you. So if you have anything
to say, put your thoughts together and we will hear from you under
Oral Communications.
RRARTNC;S
ZONE CHANGE NO. 442 LOCATION,. South side of Cameron Avenue
PRECISE .PLAN NO. 599 adjacent to and west of the Walnut Creek
Maurice Zebker Channel,
REQUEST: 1) approval of a change of zone
from Rm1 (One .Family Residence) to O-P
(Office Professional) for a triangularly shaped 2.07 acre parcel;
and 2) approval of a precise plan for office uses on the existing
O-P and proposed O-P zoned parcels of 4.39 acres. Recommended by
Planning Commission Resolutions Nos. 2276 .and 2277. Phases A and D
approved 8/24/70; Phases B and C and Zone Change held over to
9/14/70. At that time applicant requested that matter be held over
to this date.
Mr. Munsell: As you will recall, Zone Change 442 in the
Planning Director Council°s opinion at the time the original
discussion was held, was not appropriate due
to certain circumstances as they relate to Sawyer Avenue and it was
the Council°s position that the property requested for zone change
was not appropriate for a zone change because it would be detrimental
to the properties that Sawyer Avenue serves unless Sawyer had an
adequate turning radius or another way of solving the dead end
street situation. Since that time staff has had an opportunity to
review the estimated costs to provide an adequate cul-de-sac
arrangement within the existing street right-of-way, costing
approximately $4,457.70. That is our -estimate and we feel it is
on the conservative side. We have also had,...an opportunity to talk
to the individuals who are at the end of Sawyer Avenue and whose
property might be affected, we had a joint meeting at the home of
one of the two people and I now have a note from my staff saying
they are perfectly agreeable with the cul-de-sac proposal and
Mr. Zebker has indicated he found a way to justify the cost for the
cul-de-sac and would be happy to -make arrangements for the bond
for the completion of the cul-de-sac at the time the proposed site
reaches that location of Sawyer Avenue. It has taken him up until
actually this morning to complete all of the arrangements with his
finance people and to insure that he was going to be able to
accomplish this and he has therefore asked for the continuance 'of
this item until he has time to sign. the necessary papers and set up
the bond arrangement suitable to our City Attorney and staff, which
would commit him to the development. At that time he would like to
come back and show that since all of the reasons for a zone change
have been met, including a solution to the Sawyer Avenue situation,
he would like then to continue with the zone change hearing.
He had indicated the date of the 26th, which
meeting has now been changed to the 19th of October, and I don't
believe he will be able to make it by the 19th, so I would suggest
it be continued to November 9th meeting, which is the first
regular meeting in November.
So moved by Councilman Young, seconded by
Councilman Lloyd, and carried.
THE CHAIR DECLARED A RECESS AT 8:24 P�Mo COUNCIL RECONVENED AT
8:40 P.M.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Page Eleven.
HOTLINE REPORT Dr. Norman Snyder.* I am here tonight
to give you a report
on the progress of
Hot -Line and also request for a change in the contribution that
the City of West Covina makes. Hot -Line has been a success and it
• has been successful because of the contributions of the surrounding
cities. The City of West Covina has made contributions plus
innumerable hours of help from city staff.i.n Mr. Aiassa°s office.
Classifying calls is a very exacting technique
and we still contract with Children°s Hospital for our listening
service.. Hot -Line is not a treatment type of operation, it is more
a disbursing situation in which the caller°s.problem is .referred
to more knowledgeable people for help. As has been stated before,
the juvenile in trouble - the day beforeis too soon, a day after
too late and he wants somebody right now when he has his problem and
if you can get ahold of him then and talk to him you can save many
hours of doctors°and counsellors°time and resolve his problem right
then. Our local Hot -Line has been such a success that we have had
questionnaires from the Canadian Mental_ Heal<th'.Department,p�=.National'-
DistrictAttorneys Convention in Denver; national nagazine Seventeen,
which is for teenagers; at the present time we are receiving
164 calls per week. Two weeks ago one of the calls involved a
suicide, which is referred to the Suicide Prevention Center, At the
present time we need more referral sources to refer those people
beyond the call of Hot -Line. At the present time we have to use
many of the referral sources connected with Children°s Hospital.
Recently the Free Clinic has been started in
LaPuente which serves the whole Valley and.this will be of help in
referrals. We need more referral services such as Half -Way House,
ministers, counsellors, etc., who are able to counsel these young
people. I should mention here that all people whom we list as
referral sources we check them out and comments are asked from the
kids as to how they operate and if they operate within the guide-
lines we have set. If notlthey are removed from the list. At the
present time we need to centralize our activities more, with
administrative assistance more readily available to the Chairman
of Hot -Line and the Executive Committee. In the past we have used the
administia'tive staff in the City Manager's office and at this
time we are asking that the contribution be increased by $50.00 a
month so we can use a share of it for administrative aid directly
in the office of Hot -Line to work with me and the Executive Board.
You can see the advantages of this, especially in time, running
back and forth to the City Hall, the hospital, etc. I don't doubt
that Mr. Dawson put in at least $50.00 worth of time,a month
formulating stages of Hot -Line and although he is not putting that
much effort in now, if Hot -Line is to be a continuing service that
will go on after I am gone or the present members of the Board are gone,
then we have to have a structure set up which is continuous.
Someone for continuity. Also we are having feedback from some
cities on the continuing use of Children°s Hospital for the
contracting services and it is our hope as soon as possible,
hopefully by the first of the year, that we will have our own
answering service at Inter -Community Hospital, when'our own paid
employees will work out of the hospital.
The obvious advantage is the employees here
know the area better, know the referral sources and will have more
knowledge of the kind of calls they are getting from this area thcan
the calls from the metropolitan area of Los Angeles. At the present
time we have had good backup from our professional people - doctors,
lawyers, dentists, ministers, psychiatrists, etc. At the present
time Inter -Community functions -Las our meeting place and furnishes
luncheon meetings twice a month, and all of this is done gratis.
And they will also furnish us a listening room and a Cumberland line.
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Hot -Line Report
The contributing cities at the present time
are West Covina, Covina, BAldwin Park, Glendora (which gives $100
a month at the present time), Azusa, South El Monte, El Monte (which
will give $100 starting the first of the year), .LaVerne and San Dimas.
The YMCA paper drive has contributed money,, the LaCanada Women's Club
6k Covina is contributing money, and we just received a $200. check
from the Unitarians. Church. At this time I would also like to state
that the LaCanada Women's Club/the week of November 22nd/are starting
a button sale to raise money for Hot -Line. I will be sending out
letters on this and we are going to request the Mayors of the
cities participating in Hot -Line to proclaim that Hot -Line Week.
I don't think there is any -,aay that we can
measure in tangible terms the value of Hot -Line except to say what
has been said before. If just one call in one night helps us save
one kid from being taken to the emergency room and having his
stomach pumped out, or we save one kid from being arrested - we have
saved all the cities combined more money than it would cost going
through the court process or a hospital process. I work myself in
the emergency room two nights a week and no matter what -you may hear
the drug problem is not diminishing. There is not one night that
there isn't at least two young people with an overdose of drugs.
Most of the problems of Hot -Line are not drugs, they are related to
boy -girl problems, boy -parent problems, to a socially lonely child,
but all of these are the beginning of bigger problems. And Hot -.Line
is not the whole answer, but it is the beginning and West Covina was
in from the onset. I feel with the $50.00 a month instead of the
administrative assistance that we can localize our administrative
assistance better and be better able to coordinate our activities
than where we have to run back and forth between the different
city halls. My request of you tonight then is in lieu of the use
of the administrative help in City Manager's office that a monthly
additional contribution of $50.00 be made by the City of West Covina.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, referring this request to the City Manager for review and
recommendation to City Council.
(Mayor Chappell asked for the recommendation, if possible, by the next
Council meeting.)
Councilman Young: For information,/what is our contribution at the
present time?
Mayor Chappell: $50.00 per month.
Councilman Young: And they want it increased to $100 a month?
Mayor Chappell: That is correct.
Councilman Shearer: Dr. Snyder you mentioned the,hope of Hot -Line
is to have their own answering service employed
and stationed at Inter -Community Hospital -
when this would become a reality what would you anticipate your annual
budget would be?
Dr. Sn
yder: Children s Hospital operates under the umbrella
of the hospital and they are richly endowed and
their Director and Administrative assistant are on the payroll of the
hospital in the juvenile medicine.department. In our own hospital
we will have to use the psychiatrist and psychologist and they will
have to be gratis, there is no provision for paying them. The only
payment involved would be the phone bill and $2.50 an hour to the
listening person, all other personnel will be gratis. I have
assurance from the Department of Psychiatry of Inter -Community Hospital
plus some of the psychologists that they will furnish the supervisorial
of the Hot -Line listeners. We do not use professional people as a rule
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Page Thirteen
for listeners because we find that young people,usually graduate
students or older people, relate well to young people but not
necessarily professional social workers, but that they work best
with professional supervision over them. These psychiatrists and
psychologists social workers tend to get too clinical whereas the
trained paid unprofessional listener works out much better.
Councilman Shearer: I hate to equate dollars and cents in an
area like this, but that is what we are faced
with - what are the possibilities of say in
another year or two/ we are talking about $300 or $500. Not that
this would necessarily affect my vote at the present time but I
would like the entire picture.
Dr. Snyder: It would not be my intention to ask the
cities to increase beyond this amount. Our
desire is and we are approaching at the present
time - the United Fund and the LaCanada Women°s Club and the Women°s
Club have agreed to fund-raising projects for the next few years.
Their first fund-raising project will be the Thahksgiving Week button
sale. We haven't gone to the service groups yet and I would hope
that we would not go above $100,, and that the rest of the community
should carry the burden,
Martha Reynolds: To answer your question Mr. Shearer, our
anticipated budget is $.13,000 and this will
cover the hiring of two listeners at $2.50 per
hour plus a telephone bill which will. be approximately $45.00 to
$55.00 per month. On top of this there will be the initial
installation costs. I think as Dr. Snyder indicated we probably
won't have to come back because we have many groups that are very
gung-ho now.
Dr. Snyder: I might also say that through Mrs. Reynolds'
efforts Xerox has offered to set up a training
plan for our listeners.
Mrs. Reynolds: That is right. They are going to use this as
a module and do the training and put us on tape
And -I might say that I think the beautiful city
hall carried us a little - Mr. Aiassa allowed us to use his office.
B. Hammel I am here in behalf of a proposed Half Way
Diamond Bar House. We don't like to call it Half Way
House because it i s a misnomer. We are
planning a benefit drawing for a thousand pound steer, sheep and
seventeen other prizes for the benefit of the Diamond Bar Youth
Guidance Foundation. This Foundation has been incorporated as a
nonprofit, nonsectarian organization to establish a home and
educational guidance for young men between the ages of 16 to 18
living in any of the surrounding counties, south and east of
Los Angeles, who have come under the jurisdiction of the courts
because of breaking the law. It is initially planned to purchase a
home in central Pomona and later a ranch in Hemet. This is the first
fund-raising project initiated and it is planned to conduct the
drawing on Saturday, November 21, in Eastland Shopping Center. We
have received permission of the shopping center, pending approval
of the City, to display the :live stock .in a penned -in corral during
the week and on some weekends. I am here this evening to request
permission of the Mayor and Cquncil to conduct this as our initial
fund-raising program. .I might say the initial home that we will
purchase is in Pomona but the -boys that we will be helping will
come from all over this area. We want to have this be known as soon
as possible and this is why we picked the City of West Covina rather
than Pomona, so that we would let people know. We will be approaching
organizations and are in the process of approaching manufacturing
concerns. There is a great deal of money involved, none of which we
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Page Fourteen
have.. This'is'our initial.program to get it started— We have been
planning and incorporated for almost two years. We have an
educational program which goes along with this. This has been
approved by the State. We have the approval of the County, the
Judicial arm of the County, certain of the Judges who are familiar
with what we are trying to do and who are in favor of the program.
I think that is our case.
Councilman Young: I think this is a matter we would want our
staff to look into and verify the .report made.
It will probably be a matter we could deal
with at our next meeting.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman .Lloyd, and
carried, referring this item to staff and the City Attorney for
a recommendation.
B. Hammel: I know the motion has been made but I didn't
get a chance to say we are sorely in need of
funds. We have a great deal of enthusiasm
among our people - one of the things most startling to us is we
knew we would have to plan this and that we couldn't purchase the
home until we had funds and one of the first things we were confronted
with is that it would have to be flexible. Our project co-ordinator
is here this evening and after finding the home and needing money to
purchase, his answer to us wa-s if the home was ready to go tomorrow
we could house 18 boys. The ranch we are planning will. house
considerably more but if we were ready to go tonight there are .1.8
boys that will be available tomorrow morning. This is frightening
and this is why would it be possible to ask permission of the Mayor
and City Council that in the interest of trying to get started'if
this meets with the approval of Council, the City Administrator and
the City Attorney, may we then go ahead?
Mayor Chappell: We are meeting next Monday. So you will still
have plenty of time.
Bo Hammel: All right, thank you, very much.
Scott Danforth We represent the Youth Free Clinic. Its
L. Gonzalez goals basically we would like to present to you
Paul Perez tonight. We hope for this proposed Youth Clinic
to offer the needed psychological counselling
service along with medical facilities, that are needed in West Covina
and surrounding areas. Right now we have a group of students working
on this from Edgewood, South Hills, West Covina High Schools and
Baldwin Park High, and also a group of what we term professional
people working on the steering committee to get it underway. Some of
the people are M. Del Fante.- Charles Vesper,, Bernie Bregman9Mrs -Joan WiLgon,
Donald Sno®kal,, Woodrow W. Scott,, :Marjorie Welch,, Howard Erickson,
who is our attorney; Mike Lestizk9 Dr. Harry Louie; and Bill Hansen.
These are some of our professional people. Basically we have tried
to come up with like what Dr. Snyder was talking about - the Hot -Line
which helps in its referral service, helps kids with boy and girl
problems, with drug problems, to try and come to some type of solution
and this is part of the answer. We believe the Youth Free Clinic
fills another major need of the area for the youtho We feel this
can fill the nedded psychological counselling, family counselling,
birth control counselling, drug counselling and we think this is
needed in our areas.
Our medical services will cover venereal
diseases, treatment and prevention,, also pregnancytests and birth
control information along with counselling and we also plan on giving
birth control examinations. We want to stress also that the Youth
Free Clinic is the name under. -which we are to be incorporated but
we are not just going to serve the youth in the area but adults also,
because there are many who would benefit from a free clinic. Medical
services being what they are we feel it would be very beneficial.
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Oral Communications (Youth Free Clinic)
And so does the Committee of both students and professionals —
The reason we came today is because we need
money to help us in these services, We came to ask you if we
could have a street dance in the parking lot of West Covina City
Hall, because we would not have to put up blockades, because it
is closed in and self -containable, rather than having it at a
parking lot that is completely open. We would like to have the
dance on October 24th and we planned the time from 8 P.M. to 12 P.M.
We have two bands and for refreshments we would use coke machines,
and the restrooms we would use the surrounding facilities. Cleaning
up and tickets would be our own responsibility.
We also plan to hire the number of security
people required for the number of people attending. This is what
we came for tonight is to ask permission to have the street dance at
City Hall in the parking lot. And if we could not have it we would
like to ask for an alternate - Galster Park.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor - when these young people first came
before us I wondered how much money they
wanted because everybody needs money and wants
money, and I am much gratified to have three young people come before
us and ask "will you help us raise the money?" My inclination is
that we should in every way we can help the young people of our
community who want to help themselves and help the community. I,
however, subscribe to what has been said - to come before us and
ask for the use of city hall property tends to denote you do not
deal very often with governments.
L. Gonzalez:
But we also have an alternate date to offer.
Councilman Nichols: I would think that any date within a reasonable
phase to allow staff to work with the young
people and come up with the necessary
restrictions and to locate a facility and to help them, would be
commendable. Tonight we would only be prepared to refer this to
staff, at least that is my own view.
Motion by Councilman Nichols that this matter be referred to the
City Manager, with the expressed wishes of Council, that staff work
something out with them. Seconded by Councilman Lloyd.
Councilman Lloyd: One of the things that you have to understand
is what Councilman Nichols was referring to..,
and I was watching the hesitation on the part
of the young people back here - you are not being shot down, we are
favorably disposed, the world wasn't made in a day® ,and°there are a
great many of us that spend a great deal of time here and we are for
you. We feel the fact that you people appeared before us this
evening, which really sets almost a precedent,as far as we are
concerned you are certainly one of the most youthful presentations -
we have had before us, and since you made the opening we are
delighted to have you. I think the thing that has to be recognized
though is that one of the things is that the City Administrator
has to put together an organization and commit time and effort and
energy of his staff, and it is his staff, we do not run the City, we
set policy, he runs the City, the operational end of it and for us
to make a decision that quickly would be almost unfair to him, plus
the fact he has to submit,funds and all the rest of it.
I am personally favorable to any type of
activity of this type and I think it has been evidenced that we are
most favorable to the Hot -Line situation and we recognize .our
responsibilities in this community, not only to "our generation09 but
yours also.
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Oral Communications (Youth Free Clinic)
Councilman Young: I would like to comment that I have sat in on
several meetings with these young people and
the Chamber of Commerce representatives. These
are the two groups that have worked together and I certainly concur
with what Councilman Nichols and Councilman Lloyd said. I would
like to ask Scott if the Free Clinic is"at the point now that it is
being incorporated?
Scott Danforth: Yes. Howard Erickson/at the last meeting was
given the okay to go ahead with the incorpora-
tion.
Councilman Young: And then with the incorporation papers you will
be in a position to carry insurance and things
of that sort?
Scott Danforth: Yes�and Dr. Scott is also working with us. He
has agreed to be one of our co -directors
temporarily.
Councilman Young: I think what I have seen at the last meeting,
which was about three or four weeks ago - you
are making tremendous progress. I am glad you
have an alternate date though so it can mesh with the slowly -turning
wheels of the governmental process.
Chris Hines Right now we are in the process of incorporat-
West Covina ing and to go any farther we have to have a
building and we need the money. We have
everything set on this dance except for the
place and I don't think it is too much to ask for the use of a
parking lot on a Saturday when I am sure not too much happens on a
parking lot on Saturday, in ten days - I am sure that is not an
unfair request. I think our only problem would be in securing
a security force and I think we could do even that in ten days.
Councilman Young: I think we feel that our response is not un-
fair and we are aware that you have an alternate
date and as pointed out these things too fequire
some staff scrutiny.
Mayor Chappell: When is your alternate date?
L. Gonzalez: November litho
Councilman Nichols: I am sure the Council could expedite and get
you an answer in the ten days but we assume
you need sometimeto promote the affair and
it will take us a few days and put us under pressure. We do not
like to put staff under the pressure. We will get someone working
with you right away and get you an answer as soon as possible,.but
the ten day limit does put us under the gun and we don't feel we
can come through on it.
Scott Danforth: We appreciate Council°s response.
Mayor Chappell: We think you are on the right track and that
the West Covina Chamber of Commerce is in
back of you....
Paul Perez There is a slight correction. The Chamber of
Commerce has always been in the background
and that is how they have chosen to be and
they wish to be even more in the background - they now want their
ties with us completely separate and our professional steering
committee is a separate entity but in spirit they are right behind
US.
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Oral Communications - Free Clinic
Councilman Shearer: The first time we would be able to give a "yes VT
or "no" vote would be on Monday, October 19th.
So depending on how much risk takers they are,
they could go ahead and put out their publicity, etc., but I would
strongly recommend that they not do so and that they consider the
date of the 6th or 7th. If your publicity is tied in to the 19th and
we come in with a "no" vote you would be in a little bit of a bind.
I think the 7th would be a better date for you to plan on.
Paul Perez: We appreciate that and we will but we would
like to propose the 6th because I think the
7th is Edgewood's Homecoming date.
Mayor Chappell: I would suggest you work the date out with
staff. You can meet with them tomorrow.
Motion carried.
(Mr. Aiassa suggested they get in touch with his office and set up
a date.)
Vern Austin Under written communications I had asked that
Roseway a letter I had written be read to the City
West Covina Council, with regard to Umark Water System.
At the last meeting I understood it was to be
discussed on October 5, however the meeting was cancelled and
tonight I was sort of by-passed on the reading of this letter and I
would appreciate it if it could be read.
Mayor Chappell: We have all read the letter, we have had a
copy since Friday. We can have it put in the
minutes if you like.
Vern Austin: Yes, I would like it in the minutes so the
citizens of West Covina have a chance to read
it. In fact I would like to read it.
(Permission given.) Dated September 30, 1970 and addressed to the
City Council, City of West Covina
"Last night 9-29-70 I attended a public hearing with regard to
purchase by the City of West Covina from Umark, their water system
which is under construction at the present time. I made a statement
which may have been misstated once but on the second approach to
clarify, was certainly misinterpreted by a City Councilman. This
statement was intended to say, it was my understanding that were this
water system to be sold, the seller would have to apply for
permission to the Calif. Public Utility Commission to sell this system.
"As of this date I have been so informed and being informed have
determined that the above is correct under the Calif. Public Utility
Commission Code Section 851.
'ventlemen, to me this is very important, as I do not see as
responsible officials how your body could commit the citizens of West
Covina by signing a contract with Umark to the very :obvious legal
liability prior to a ruling by the CPUC of the full aspect of this
contract. To me this is in effect putting the 'cart before, the
horse' and possibly buying a 'pig -in -a -poke', which could be the
citizens would have to pay for the pig if the CPUC poked the contract.
"The text of the contract I have not been privileged to read, I
admit. It may be within that text that in the event the CPUC did not
approve of the sale, the citizens of West Covina would come out free
and clear in a cancellation of -,this contract. If so, good for you
gentlemen and your legal staff.
At any rate I am requesting this communication in its entirity be
read into the meeting set by the City Council on Oct. 5, 1970 or any
other meeting thereafter in which the city has knowledge of the sale
of this system to any existing or proposed utility.
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Oral,Communications - (Umark Water System)
"I am further requesting as a rate payer of water rates, not-
withstanding the fact of property taxes, in this city that the
City Council fully inform the CPUC in the future on any action with
respect to the water properties of Umark or any of its successors.
Gentlemen, I feel the latter is paramount to all of your responsi-
bilities in the matter of the water users of this City. The CPUC
I can attest to,,.. as did many other people in the hearing last night,
has a history of allowing for investment based on the ability of
the rate payer to pay on this legitimate investment and not with load-
ed interest, maintenance and other costs. This plant investment, it
is my experience is based on reasonable future needs. I regard the
contract as I heard it last night definitely not reasonable future
needs. More likely I would say in the terms of a utility 'Gold
Plated" to make the developer come out as whole as possible,.
"It might be worth noting in this communication that the developer,
Umark, was permitted to use City streets in developing this system,
as such it would appear to me that the legal intent was to develop a
utility system in capactiy far beyond what is needed for any
prospective rate payer for many years and now the developer has load-
ed his jPokei4 and wants somebody to permit him to cash out. I agree
this is poor planning on his part but I do not agree this should be
at the burden of the rate payer.
"As stated above I am requesting the CPUC be informed of all
matters with respect to the above problems. I am taking this
opportunity by submitting a carbon copy of this letter to the CPUC
that they keep themselves fully informed regardless of councilmakic
action.
"Thanking you gentlemen for your time and consideration to the
citizens of this community in making this a formal public hearing.
However, in retrospect it would seem that had this been submitted
to the citizens for vote before Umark invested, a lot of problems
for all parties concerned could have been solved, I would hope we
use this as an example for the future."
Joanne Wilner On an earlier occasion I believe I wrote a
2108 Casa Linda Drive letter to Council suggesting that the goals
West Covina of the City in its General Plan be reviewed.
That there appeared to me that they do not
represent the current thinking of citizens of the community,
especially in regards to the population of this City. Since the
adoption of the General Plan we have become extremely interested
in the presentation of our environment. Everybody, everywhere is
now talking about ecology. The fact our General Plan is so new
does not mean the goals set forth in it are today meaningful.
Coming before the Planning Commission, I saw the pubhc notice
for October 21 will be the formal revision No. 1 of the General
Plan, which at that time takes a zone which the General Plan sets
forth as a business area and requests a change to multiple -family
25; thereby increasing the size of the allowable population of the
community. What I am trying to ask here is that action be taken
either through Committee or some other way, of looking into whether
or not the goals of this City truly are represented by the present
General Plan. Do the people really want to be the big city with
the great density as set forth under the current General Plan?
At the hearings of the Planning Commission I have heard it said
many times "We don't want to be big" - "We don't want to grow that
way" - and that is why I feel I am really not alone in this and
feel some effort should be made to find out how large a percent of the
community is with me on this, as compared to that which is set
forth in the General Plan.
There is also another subject. At the last
Planning Commission meeting in testimony at a public hearing, a
citizen led'.me to believe that she is really not a part of this
community in regards to recreation. They happen to be in the
Covina School District and they feel they are part of Covina moreso
than West Covina. I wondered if our recreation programs, which
come to me through the West Covina School District and lets me and
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Page Nineteen
my children know what is going on in the City - how do people
in the Covina Valley District, both north of the freeway and
possibly to the south of the Freeway, become aware of the West
Covina programs. They are not second-class citizens but part of
this City and should be fully informed. I think this is an area
that should be looked into.
I do have a question. I was unaware before coming to the
meeting this evening that under Written Communications my letter
was to be referred to you - will that be held over and referred
to the next week's meeting?
Mayor Chappell: We are referring it to the hearing of
October 19.
Councilman Nichols: I think Mrs. Wilner would like to know
whether her letter would be specifically read
at the hearing, and the answer to that is
"no", because most of the letters addressed to Council are read:'by
Council and then received and filed at the hearing. If you feel
the need to place your letter in the record you may testify
during the hearing or you may read your letter at that time. It
would be your own choice as to whether you want to place it more
fully on the record or be willing to accept an awareness that each
of us has read it.
..f
Joanne Wilner: Thank you. The only thing I would refer to
now would be whether at the time of that hear-
ing if I were to bring up a request for a
moratorium on gas stations - would that be out of order? Or would
I read that into the record right now?
Mayor Chappell: You can always bring it up under Oral
Communications if we didn't satisfy you during
the hearing.
Joanne Wilner: I am not sure just how Council proceeds. I
am aware of the Planning Commission procedure
but it is quite different at Council level
to speak and get answers to questions. I will wait then until next
week. Thank you. -
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Joanne Wilner - Letter Mayor Chappell: We do have a copy of
of Opposition to UUP Mrs. Wilner-'s letter,,
#i61 and I believe we should have a motion
referring this letter to the hearing of
October 19, 1970.
So moved by Councilman Nichols, seconded
by Councilman Shearer, and carried.
West Covina Ladies Councilman Nichols' As this was a
Auxiliary Post 1776 matter approved
Poppy Sale Request in prior years, there is no apparent reason
to deny, therefore I move approval to hold
Poppy Sale - November 6 and 7, 1970.
Seconded by Councilman Young, and carried.
Mayor Benjamin M. Lawing Mayor Chappell: We certainly want to
of Pomona - re letter thank the Mayor for
writing this letter
of appreciation. It allows all of us to
know that our Fire Department under its
Mutual Aid Program, has responded to another city's call and took
action. I think our Fire Department should be commended and should
have a copy of this letter.
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Written Como
Motion by Councilman Nichols that letter from Mayor Benjamin M. Lawing
of Pomona be received and filed after a copy has been distributed to
the Fire Department-, and further that a brief letter of acknowledgement
be returned to Mayor Lawing and a copy of the letter of acknowledgement
be attached to the copy of the letter to the Fire Department.
Seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried.
Board of Supervisors Motion by Councilman Nichols that a brief
Letter of Appreciation letter of acknowledgement signed by the
of Assistance in Fires Mayor be written to the County Board of
Supervisors acknowledging receipt of
their appreciative communication of assistance in recent fires in
Los Angeles County-, and that said letter be received and filed.
Seconded by Councilman Lloyd and carried.
Harold L. Johnson Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by
Engineering Request Councilman Lloyd, and carried, referring
to Submit Proposals to City Engineer.
for Proposed Storm
Drains
CITY ATTORNEY
ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented-.
INTRODUCTION "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING SECTION NO. 3140 OF
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO
TRUCK ROUTES (Barranca Street)."
Mayor Chappell: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, intro-
ducing said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows-.
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ORDINANCE NO. 1144 The City Attorney presented,.
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA, ADDING SECTION 9218.10 TO THE
WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRING THE PAY-
MENT OF CERTAIN PARK FEES IN CONNECTION WITH MULTIPLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT (Amendment No. 112)o11
Mayor Chappell: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Shearer, adopt-
ing said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows-.
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ORDINANCE NO. 1145 The City Attorney presented
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING THE WEST COVINA
MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN
PREMISES. (Zone Change No. 443 - Lloyd E.
Moen Construction, Inc.)"
Mayor Chappell: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, adopting
said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
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CITY ATTORNEY - Ord. #1145
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, 'Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
CITY MANAGER
Williams & Mocine Motion by Councilman .Lloyd, seconded by
Statements Councilman Young, that statements from
Williams & Mocne, planning consultants,
in the amounts of $717. and $975. be paid. Motion carried on roll
call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Financing of Crossing Mr. Aiassa: This was referred back
Guards to staff to find
supplemental funds. You now have a report
from the Controller with his recommendation.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young, approving
the placing of crossing guards at the three additional. locations and
further approving the transfer of $4,860.44 from Account 121-751-11
(Full-time .Police Salaries) to Account 121-751-12 (Part-time Police
Salaries). Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT, None
Lease Agreement for Mr. Aiassa, This matter was dis•,
City Hall Space cussed at the last
Council meeting and
what you have before you now is a formal proposed agreement for •the
leasing of the space at City Hallo
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, approving
a lease agreement with the Los Angeles County Probation Department,
as set forth in the report dated September 24, 1970, and that the
Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execute same.
Councilman Shearer: Page 3, sect•ion 22, talking about the
parking that is to be provided, it says
° shall be located within one block
radius." In legal terms what is the definition of "one block".
Engineering -wise,• they can be anywhere from inches to miles.
Mr. Aiassa: I believe the term as stated in this
agreement is the distance .in the
proximity of the city parking lot.. I
think a city block is normally 4001 long.
Mayor Chappell: Where do you plan on placing these spaces?
Mr. Aiassa: We have several locations and staff has
been working with them on the locations.
Mr. Fast: These will be unassigned spaces, other than.
for probably one or two of the executive
people.
Councilman Shearer: My question is actually to the City Attorney.
Do you feel this one block radius will present
a problem?
Mr. Wakefield: I don't see that it presents a problem.
City Attorney It was intended to provide for parking
facilities within the limits of the Civic
Center area, and we generally consider this
the block on which the City Hall is located.
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City Manager (Lease Agreement L.A.-County)
Mr. Aiassa: The concept here -is that we normally talk of a
city block and this is identified as the one
block radius of the Civic Center including the
parking lot. We will identify it in the lease.
Councilman Nichols: In this context what does the use of the word
"demise" mean?
Mr. Wakefield: It means in effect "transferred". The right
City Attorney to use and, occupy the property is transferred
to the lessee for -the terms of the lease
Councilman Young: We are divorcing our rights to that particular
square footage.
Motion carried on roll
call vote
as follows:
AYES: Councilmen
Shearer, Nichols, Young,
Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PETITION re A.R.A.
Mr. Aiassa You
do have a
staff report
Non-compliance to
with
regard to
this request,
Precise Plan
outlining
the
meetings we
have had with A.R.A.
Mr. Munsell: I might indicate to Council that the contract -
Planning Director or was in very close to 8 A.M. this morning
with the plans for approval to start con-
struction, so that would indicate the contract has been given.for
the work to be done. Since I have been hazarding a guess as to when
this work would get under construction .for quite awhile now, I would
not want to say at this time but it does seem like it is imminent.
Mr. Aiassa: Can we carry this over to the 19th of October
and see if it actually takes place.
So moved by Councilman Nichols, seconded by
Councilman Young, and carried.
Sister City Founda- Mr. Aiassa This staff report is a
tion Requests digest of our meetings.
My staff attends most of
the Sister City Foundation meetings along with the two Councilmen -
Mro Lloyd and Mr. Nichols. There were four items suggested;
Council has already by previous action taken .care of the item
relating to the Council"s Lounge area on the third floor to be
called the Toluca Room. This was done sometime ago by Council
action.
Councilman Nichols: As one of the Councilmen mentioned in the
communication I feel justified in saying
that this communication really doesn't make
a great deal of sense to me when I am now without the original
request from Sister City Foundation, and this communication
alludes only very vaguely to that and I really would not know how
to act further now that the ball, I assume, is being bounced back
to Councilman Lloyd and Councilman Nichols by this communication.
Particularly in Item 1, I would almost say Mr. Aiassa didn't write
it, he is usually so much more direct and this is very cleverly
obtrusive. I would like to have a chance to discuss this further
with Councilman Lloyd and I would so -move.
Seconded by Councilman Young.
Councilman Shearer: Before we vote, if my memory doesn't fail
me, I don't beld eve we voted to name the
Council Lounge, it was discussed, I would
like to have this researched. I have been thinking about this lately
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CITY MANAGER (Sister Citv Foundation)
Page Twenty-three
and if we want an area to honor Toluca I simply question if the
Council Lounge is the place, because I understand it is a place
reserved for the five of us. If we name something in honor of
Toluca I.am sure the Sister City Foundation would like access to it
and the general public, and I am not sure that it would be
compatible with the concept of the Council Lounge. I would like to
have it researched to make -sure we didn't and then -we are free to
do something else.
Councilman Lloyd: Councilman Shearer perhaps I could refresh
your memory. The concept on the Councilmen's
Lounge as it is evolved and originally proposed
was nbt based on just being a Councilmen's Lounge, but a reception
area to be used for formal functions of the City and for distinguished
guests. Originally it was planned to have separate cubicles for
each Councilman but this concept was discarded in favor of the area
being used as a reception area for distinguished guests. If we carry
this concept forward then the naming of this room as the Toluca Room
would certainly be in keeping.
Councilman Shearer: Fine, then I think we should not look at it
as a Council Lounge. I am all in favor of
that because I think the usage of it for the
five of us does not warrant the janitor's time to clean it up. I
would be in favor of that concept.
Mr. Aiassa:
Mrs. Kathleen Keller
Letter re Mudslides
Motion carried.
I might advise Council that Terry Brandt has
worked with Sister City Foundation,if. .
Council has any questions.
Mr. Aiassa:
regarding the problems involved.
Council has a copy of the
letter from Mrs. Keller
along with a staff report
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Young, to receive
and file and further that Mrs. Keller be notified of the context of
the staff report. Motion carried.
Police Helicopter Mr. Aiassa: A letter was received today
Report from the City of Covina and
at their request they would
like to discuss the Police Helicopter at the joint meeting of
Councils scheduled for November 30th.
So moved by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by
Councilman Young, and carried.
Freeway Widening Mr. Aiassao You have a staff report
Report keepirU Council abreast of
what we are doing with the
State Division of Highways. I would like Council to acknowledge
receipt of same.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, receiving and filing informational staff report.
"Clean -Up, Paint -Up" Mr. Aiassa: This is a follow-up report
'Campaign outlining the potential
program that we would like
to start immediately if Council approves. We feel if we follow
the recommendations, outlined that by next Spring we will have a very
strong campaign.
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, directing staff to prepare the necessary plans for a City-
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City Manager (Clean-up Campaign)
wide Clean-up, Paint -up, Fix -up Campaign, during the Spring of
1971 (either at the end of April or early May, hopefully to
coincide with the National Clean-up, Paint -up, Fix -up week) and
that a Citizens Committee (approximately .5 members) and a Council
representative to act as liaison, be appointed. to work with staff.
Resolutions of Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Mayor, I do have
Commendation an extra item to add to
the agenda, with Council
permission. (No objections.) The Council asked the City
Attorney to prepare a resolution of commendation for Jo Do Harper,
who retired from the Public Authority Board; and further directed
staff to prepare an appropriate resolution of commendation for
Doug Dawson, who is leaving. Both items have been prepared.
RESOLUTION NO. 4242 The City Clerk presented.
ADOPTED 99A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA., COMMENDING
Jo D. HARPER FOR HIS SERVICES."
RESOLUTION 4243 "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
ADOPTED THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, COMMENDING
DOUGLAS .DAWSON FOR HIS SERVICES."
Mayor Chappell: Hearing no objections waive further reading
of the body of said Resolutions.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Young,.adopting
said resolutions, and further directing and approving the perma-
plaquifig of the resolutions.
Councilman Shearer: Mr. Mayor - I would like to raise a question
before voting, with regards to the Harper
resolution on retirement, there is no question in my mind regarding
such a resolution and the perma plaquiag of it, but what has been
the policy with regards to a resolution such as the one for Mr. Dawson.
My association with him in the past few months has been outstanding
and I am not discussing or arguing the point with regard to the
perma plaquiAg of it, but what has been the practice previously
when someone leaves or is promoted?
Mr. Aiassa. We normally do this if they have had a tenure
of over two years.
Councilman Shearer: Then this is in line with past proceedings?
Mr. Aiassa.- Yes. And most of them take jobs such as
Harry .Peacock taking the job of City Manager
of Garden City. We don't normally go down to
street sweepers, etc., unless they have been with the city for
ten or fifteen yearso
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows-.
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mayor Chappell: Do you have anything further, Mr. Aiassa?
Mr. Aiassa: We do have a request for a helicopter landing
but the City Attorney advises me this is under
the jurisdiction of -the City Manager.
Mayor Chappell: Would you want to inform Council if you are
going to approve it?
Mr. Aiassa: My paperwork is not yet completed, but there
is a fair indication that we will approve it.
We have a landing strip and the Fire Department brought in a late
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City Manager (Helicopter Landing Report)
report tonight; they are scheduled for the 17th and. the arriving
time is 12:35 and the departing time is 1 pm. They do meet all
the requirements but I still have to ask regarding the proper
insurance coverage.
CITY CLERK
ABC APPLICATION Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by
Councilman Young, and carried, that no protest
be filed on ABC application of Edgar E. Elmer
and Harold J.J. Stueve dba Alta -Dena Dairy, 310-F South Vincent
Avenue.
CLAIM FOR DAMAGES Mr® Wakefield: This item is a claim
Mrs. LaVonne D. Ryan City Attorney for damages attrib-
uted to a fall on a
defective sidewalk in the City. It is my recommendation that the
claim be denied and referred to the City°s insurance carrier.
City staff upon conducting an investigation at the time the accident
was reported - and the result of that should be sent to the .insurance
carrier - there was some indication that the lady actually didn't
fall where she said she did,
Motion by Councilman Lloyd that the suit be denied and the matter
referred to the,City°s insurance carrier along with the report
pertaining thereto. Seconded by Councilman Young, and carried.:
VAN NORMAN Mr. Wakefield: This has some real problems
UNIVERSITY City Attorney in connection with it which
have not been resolved to
the satisfaction of the staff. It is not clear from the application
just what kind of a school the applicant intends to operate and
whether or not the classes have been cleared by the State Department
of Education, and in addition an Unclassified Use Permit will be
required. Under the circumstances it would be my recommendation
that the present request for a business license be denied and if
the applicant wishes to apply.for the Unclassified Use Permit and
resubmit his application that it be further considered at that
time.
So moved by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by
Councilman Young, and carried.
MAYOR'S REPORTS
Mayor Chappell: With Council permission we will adjourn
to an executive session at this time to
discuss the replacement of J. Do Harper,
who resigned due to illness from the Executive Board of the
Public Authority Commission.
(City Council convened at 10:067 Reconvened at 10:16 P.M�)
Mayor Chappell: The appointment of a member to the Public
Authority Commission will be announced at
our next neetingo
RESOLUTION NO. 4244 The City Clerk presented°
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, COMMENDING
THE COVINA COLTS ALL-STAR TEAM."
Mayor Chappell: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Shearer, seconded by Councilman Young, adopt-
ing said resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows.,
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
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Mayor's Reports - Res. of Commendation
Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that the
resolution be perma plaqued. Motion carried on roll call vote as
follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PROCLAMATION
PTA MEMBERSHIP
ENROLLMENT MONTH
PROFESSIONAL WOMEN'S
WEEK OCT. 15 to 24th
Mayor Chappell,.
Enrollment Month.
Mayor Chappell:
Women's Group, and we were asked today to
and Professional Women's Week October 15
no objections, I will so proclaim.
COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS
If there is no objection
I will. proclaim the month
of October PTA Membership
(No .objections, so proclaimed.)
As we heard this evening,
our City Clerk received an
award from the Professional
proclaim the National
to the 24th. If there are
Councilman Shearer: Mrs. Wilner in her presentation talked about
a statement made at the Planning Commission.
I also caught this and I talked to the lady
that made the statement and I am requesting that I be furnished
with a report disseminating the Recreation & Park activities,
particularly with regard to those schools lying north of the Freeway.
I hope the statement Mrs. Saunders made was incorrect and if it was
correct that a change will be made. The statement in effect was they
received nothing through the Covina Unified School District announcing
the recreation programs of West Covina. If this is correct :I would
like it looked into.
Mayor Chappell: I kind of think this is incorrect being
involved in some of the activities of our
City, because they have a roster of all the
activities at schools in our City.
Mr. Aiassa: We have had some breakdowns with the Covina
School District, plus there is a little bit of
confusion due to the fact that West Covina does
not incorporate here entirely, and this material has to go to the
main office and then it is distributed down through the School
District. We will check into this.
Councilman Shearer: The second item is with regard to our on -
again - off -again, mainly off, since my term,
heliport. I read in a recent article in the
local newspaper that the City Council in Baldwin Park had turned a
deaf ear on this, which may be the case, however we have taken no
final action and I would like to know what the status is. I
don't like information through the newspapers and if we have
turned a deaf ear I think this information should be brought to us
and we should be allowed to vote on it and to my knowledge there
has been no vote since April or any information regarding this
item. I would like to know what the status is and I am not
criticizing the reporter because I think we have turned a deaf
ear since we haven't done anything for four months so I think the
assumption would be that we have turned a deaf ear since we have
not talked about it.
Mr. Aiassa: The original location was the Civic Center,
the alternate location was the Cal -Store
parking lot. We have a third area and that
is part of the new complex being under consideration now with the
modification of the Plaza. The location selected was right .in
the middle of the development and they are now under negotiation
to see if it Is feasible or not. They are in di-cussion now and_
the owner's have' indicated they would' not. - like -discussing an airport
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in that site and wanted it to be delayed until the papers were
signed.
Councilman Shearer: But at this point in time the Council has
not taken a stand?
Mr. Aiassa: That is correct. We have not suggested
this third location to Council, we have to
get the owner's approval.
Councilman Lloyd: With regard to that, I think that it would
be naive for me, who was as interested in
this as anyone, to believe that this City is going to go forward
on this. I do honestly believe that some consideration should be
given to whether or not we -really want an airport of any type
in this City, and I would like to see a study on it. Eventually
we may be involved in Pome police helicopter work; eventually we
may be involved in a City heliport, which would be available to
people such as the request received by the City Manager, wherein
we have a known path approach, the conditions are stable, etc.,
and do not constitute any hazard to immediate houses, etc. As a
result of this I think if we relook at the dynamics of development
of this community, I really believe that consider.ation on the basis
of a "go" or "no go" should be reviewed and I would therefore
request the staff to look into this and incorporate it.
Mayor Chappell: Councilman L1oyd)I was informed the other
day that L.A. Airways was in the process of
bankruptcy? Do you know if this is true?
Councilman Lloyd: I do know that., -Howard Hughes has been paying
the bills for them, and other than that I
have no information. L.A. Airways was badly
mauled during the strike and this is pure hearsay. In the area of
aviation there is no doubt in my mind that whether it is L.A. Air-
ways, Golden West, or whatever term comes forward, there will be
additional feeder line approaches to the metropolitan area of
Los Angeles. This has been incorporated in the FHA reports -and-they
say they want these things and are willing to go forward and ask
for them, but to answer your question Mr. Mayor, I simply don't know.
Mr. Aiassa: As requested we will go forward. I think
Mr. Shearer is right and the only thing is
we were in a dilemma to move or not move
and this was caused by the owner not wanting us to do anything
at the present time.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor - after careful review I have
decided not to attend the League of
California Cities convention this year, so
I would like to return my reservation.
Mr. Aiassa: There is a possibility that the Fire Chief
will not be able to go to the Fire Chief's
convention and he has made a request to attend the .League of
California Cities and can possibly use this reservation.
Mayor Chappell: I have one other thing that came to my
attention. The City Manager of the City of
Industry for the past 13 years is retiring and the Mayor of that
City is having a recognition dinner for him and if any of you are
interested please get in touch with the City Manager.
DEMANDS Motion by Councilman Young, seconded by
Councilman Shearer, approving demands totalling
$352,042.84 as listed on Demand sheets B462
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Page Twenty-eight
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through B466. This total includes payroll. Motion carried on
roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Shearer, Nichols, Young, Lloyd, Mayor Chappell
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ADJOURNMENT Mayor Chappell: Our next regularly
scheduled meeting is
October 26th which is
the League Conference date and as a number of Councilmen have
indicated their attendance at that meeting we will ask for an
adjournment of our meeting to October 19th.
So moved by Councilman Shearer, seconded
by Councilman Lloyd, adjourning this meeting at 10:30 P.M. to
October 19, 1970, at 7:30 P.M.
ATTEST:
CITY CLERK
APPROVED:
MAYOR