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01-26-1970 - Regular Meeting - Minutesf MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA JANUARY 26, 1970. The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order at 7.30 P.M-., in the West Covina City Hall by Mayor Leonard S. Gleckman. The Pledge of -Allegiance was led -by -Councilman Thomas Gillum. The invocation was given by Dr. Henry.,.Kraus,-Temple Beth Ami of. West Covina. ROLL CALL Present: Mayor Gleckman; Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd. Also Present: George Aiassa,-City Manager. Lela Preston, City Clerk George Wakefield, City Attorney. George Zimmerman, City Engineer H. R. Fast, Public Services,Director Richard Munsell, P.l.anning.Directo.r Robert Gingrich, Director .of. Recreation & Parks 'Betty Plesko, Chairman of Recreation &..Park Como Joan Wilson, Recreation & Park Como Ross Nammar, Administrative Assistant APPROVAL OF MINUTES January 5, 1970 .--Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, approving. i minutes as ;Submitted., January 1.2, 1970. - Motion by Councilman Gillum., seconded by Councilman Chappell,. _and .carried, approving minutes as submitted. PRESENTATIONS Mayor Gleckman read Resolution No. 4061 commending Fred Shrader for his years of service to the City as a Commissioner on the Human Relations Commission. Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Shrader, this only expresses to you some of the things that the City could put. .in print without making the: per._ma-plaque..mu,ch :l.arg.e.r than. it is. We, on the Council, know of the-man.y.serv.i.ces you have given to the City over the years.. And L might say that within the next few monthsI hope to see you again giving service to the City. Mr.. Shrader expressed..his thanksand.appreci-ation for the privilege of .working -on a Commission and hoped his' work would allow him sufficient time to come back -.and .work.w.ith the.City again..in...;the near future. Mayor Gleckman then.presented a - Certificate of. _Appre.ciat.ion..si.gned ,by Police Chief Allen SilltoFern.Go.rrel.l for her assistance as a citizen in aiding the Police -Department by obtaining and reporting the. -license number of,a-car usedin an armed robbery, thereby leading to the apprehension of the participants. AWARD OF BIDS PROJECT NO. 7003 (MP.-70008) LOCATION: Civic Center CIVIC CENTER HELIPORT Bids received.in the office of'the City Clerk at 10:00 A.M. on . December 3, 1969; held over from Decen}ber-8, 1969, 'to December 22, 1969, to.January 12, 1970a.and conti;;Aed to this date. AEG. C.C. 1--26-70 Page Two Award of Bids ( Pro j e.c-t, ,.No;,, 7.0.0 3 ).. Cont ° d o Mr.. Wakefield,. We have had a series of meetings with City Attorney Mr. Cable, representing the L.A. Airways, in connection with the f.i.nalAzat.i.on of the p.ropos- ed contract. The .last draft: prepared and which was submitted to L.A. Airwaysgwas based upon certain recommendations. •of. the Department of Aeronautics of the State of California concern._ ing'the nature of the use of the heliport and was designed so the heliport when established would qualify as . a pub.l.i.c airport for certain. subsidies and grants both in construction and. maintenance I was advised this afternoon by Mr. Cable that, his firm would be unable to enter into the agreement .in that form and he would be here -this even- ing to explain the_situat.ion to the City Councid- I might indicate that there have been prior drafts of the agreement, one prepared by -L.,A. Airways, wh.i.ch was essentially a type of agreement which l.i.mi t,ed the use of the a.i.rport. to L.A,, Airways Helicopters and such other craft as :it might: consent to use the heliport, This, we were advised by the representatives of the State,,was in their opinion not the ki-nd of.an agreement that would be acceptable as,.i.t. established a closed airport, for the exclusive use of L., Ao Airways. We have reached an .impasse in the negotiation's and the matter is now presented to Council for your resolution and determination. I think with certain appropriate findings either form of the agreement could legally be entered into by the.City. But the basic question of whether the hel.i.port. .is to be open for general public use or reserved exclusively for use by L,,A, Airways is -for .the City.Council to decide. Roger Cable We have been at this now :for several months and .L„A, A.i.rways it is unfortunate that we have reached this 5901 Imperial. Highway particular position, but I think it.is one that ..Los Angeles can be easily explained as fa.r. as L.A. Airways' - position is concerned. As you may recal,.l. at the very first.appearance I made before you I .asked.that..West. Covina l.00k at the possibilities of establ.ish,inga heliport - fo.r the ability of L.A...Airways :to provide scheduled serviceto the community and we have proceeded with :that to the point where we have the design of the heliport, approval of the Federal authorities and. State as. to its abil..ity,to operate as a commercial heliport, And,, unfortunately have now reached the point .to where we wish to c1.ask.:fy .it as a public heliport.. L.A, .Airways is .certainly not wishing in anyway to stifle the establishment of thisf.aci.l..ityo We are concerned withth.e safety of the passengers and public. I have worked very hard with Mr. Aiassa and Mr,, Wakefield,and our officials and we can see no way that we can insure the safety of the flying public,, as well as the safety of those on,the ground .,with an airport that can be open to.anyone that wishes to use it and not be .under strict control,-,: We have not been .able to do this .in the past. We have been requested many times by the. communities we serve and,after thorough eva.luation9.it has been our determination that our first outlook must be to the safety of the ,public that we are carrying, As a company with some 2000 stock h.old­ ers we cannot . jeopard.i.ze their position in company by opening -up the liability of operations from a hel.i.po.rt that could cause the endangering of lives .in -the transportation of our passengers. Our first lease wassubmit.t:ed to the City of. West Covina in the first week"of September, long before we went out to bid. At that time the lease included the normal provision that we have had with every other heliport we operate from. This i.s the provision that we must have control over the heliport to....assure safety. That is the point we are at now. If you have any que.stions,I will be glad to try and clarify our position or answer them for you. 2 REG. C.C. 1-26-70 :Page Three Award of Bids (Project .No. 7003) Cont°do Councilman Gillum: Mr. Cable, on your other .installations are they on private or public property? Mr. Cable- Almost all are on public property. The.Pomona facility belongs to the Parking District,-, the facility in San Bernardino belongs to the Orange Show Grounds,wh.ich is a semi-public facili.ty-, the Downey heliport is on City of Downey ,property; Whittier on City of Whittier property, etc. Councilman Lloyd: I think we have arrived at. the point where we, as a Council, will. have to make a decision as to whether or not this type of activity will be of the greatest benefit. to the City and we are faced with some rather d,iffi.cult. problems, Mr,, Aiassa has already spoken 'to me on the telephone today and, he has ,i.ndi.cated.'that he doesn't see that,as a City Administrator, he can go .forward on th,.i.s Is that true Mr. Aiassa? Mr. Aiassa- With the present lease„ as prepared by City Manager Mro .Wakef.i.eld,, I have no objections, but it appears that L.A. Airways wants an exclusive usage, which will make it almost a private heliport and will exclude us from getting any State or Federal funds, which we have already made approaches to andwhich would be available to us if it were a public heliport, Councilman Lloyd: That .is a good point. As a matter of .facts when -we commenced the project it was the hope that we might be able to get Federal or State fund- ing to help defray the cost, ..However, at that time we anticipated also a 2 year stand at least, and in good. faith we really believed that to be so.. Now we no longer have the possibility of 2 years of use if we continue this and enter into negotiations with L.A,, Airways and we would no longer have the opportunity for those funds and the burden falls on this Council to say that the funds needed approximately $50,000, is now committed to the possibility of the taxpayersl'money. I am favorably disposed -to this because I think we need this type of transport.at.i6n, but. I think .it would be well to review strongly by the Council., to see where we want to go with, -the taxpayers dollar. The situation. we are Looking at is,in essence, if we don't do it now 'somebody else will. move and at that point m once .it is done and the .fact .it is not here ,- well. we don't ge't. it. You are not talking about a second shot. I realize that L.A„ Airways is.not the only commercial. helicopter firm operating .but at the present moment, fairly or unfairly, they are protected pretty well by Federal pro- vision by their license. Simply stated, no one else.can operate against them the way it stands,_, I think these things will eventually change, but.by the time they change I don't think we will be afforded the. opportunity that comes now, so we must weigh very careful'ly., without getting into the moral equities of whether this .is fair'or unfair, as far as .L.A,, Airways is concerned,. I think we have to look at what isbest for the City. Of course I am motivated,and I think I have made my position clear regarding the necessity of a Transporta- tion Center. I think the key to the growth of this City is going to be the tying to a Transportation Center. I think we are going to have to have a ground Transportation Center, which may come .in the form of a rapid transit system of some sort, and with the .many freeways coming in�Azusa Avenue will begin to look like a main north-- south-thorough.fa.re, and .I think .we have t.oconsider strongly a , Transportation Center. Granted, $50,000 - .if all. you --were doing is spe:ndi.ng .it..out.. of ._a cash income basis, $50,000 is a lot of money, but wehave to look very carefully particularly in these days when the tax dollar doesn't go as far as it used to and when additional revenues are being called for in every walk of life in our community. 3 REG.- C.C. 1-26 70 Page Four Award of Bids (Project No. 7003) Cont'dff , So we have to trade that of-f . now from. a business point of view and say, will this type of Transportation Center generate .i..n .a period of time say 18 months time, and I think once you have.this type of activity it will work well and act as a revenue producing _enterprise. This then begs the question of where will we put, it when the freeway •is ultimately widened on that land that is committed to the underpass at Walnut Creek Parkway, and then we will have to find someplace else. We must weigh these intangibles and not very strong base against what L.A. Airways -can do. We are not the only freeway city and while we say we are the hub of this areas if someone puts a good strong base in somewhere else)we may find our tax producing capability will decline. Frankly, inmy opinion I don't see where we are going to have a l arge.industri.al park, I think the only tax base that we can look to is business, commerce, our stores, and a vi.ta.l.part of that is indeed . transportati.on and the ability to move within this 1.5 mile radius. I ask the�counc.ilmen to weigh and.judge heavily that against the $50,000 we are talking about spending. If the time, period were greater than the year and a half we are talkingabout I would have very little hesi.tat.ion, but the time period is not great and the monies that have to be spent - well we could find that they are literally wasted. Yet. we do have to.look into the future 1.0 years hence., and I don't want anyone to say to me/back in 1970 when you could have made this decision to make this the Ce-nter. you failed to do so. I think this is one of the things we are facing. I invite my fellow.counci.lmen to offer whatever discussion or arguments they may have Counc.i.lman. Chappell: When we originally'started discussing this there was some comment of perhaps federal funds being derived. from this project„ but all, the time that I have been studying it and looking at it I never found this to be fact. It was something we were. hoping for, but in my original statements of wanting''to develop more of a Transportation Center, of which this was to be, the f.i.rst, link, it, didn't really hit me that federal funds were going to be applied to this $50,000. I would like to know if Mr. Wakefield -or Mr. Aiassa would. know .that. these other heliports..around that..L,A..A.i.rways have developed, have they derived any federal funds with the type.of agreement we are asked to sign tonight? Mr. Wakefield: Not to my knowledge. As I understand it this City.:. -Attorney would be the first so-call.ed public heliport within this general area, insofar as the State of California is concerned. Councilman Chappell: When we'use this, word "public" are we referring to it as.M.r, Cable did or that just -anyone. . could come .i.n.and land any type of helicopter or aircraft or plane . do we mean strictly commercial? Mr. Wakefield: What the basic form of the agreement provides City -Attorney for is that. L.A.:, Airways will have exclusive use of the heliport .1.0 minutes before and during its arrival and departure and 10 minutes after for the exclusive'use of. their helicopters. At other times other helicopters whether privately owned or publ.icl.y,cou.ld be authorized to land at the heliport. This would .include publicly owned helicopters that might -be utilized by.a city or neighboring city for police surveillance, or rescue use.,_and-it would, .also include. the privately owned helicopter that transports business -executives from one office to the othero.Dmept f cr the times I .indicated :i.t could be usedby other helicopters. There would be no storage facilities, the heliport is not really large enough so that a helicopter could land and be stored on -the ..ground. So what. we are talking about really is the use -of the hel.i,port for landing and take off operation.- .- 4 REG. C ..0 o 1-26-70 Page Five Award of Bids (Project No. 7003) Cont°do Councilman Lloyd: In answer to your question Councilman Chappell, I might add, as a publi.cl.y operated heliport any licensed operator may request.permission to land; it would not be restricted to the exclusive use..of.L,,A. Airways. However, it is possible .under the degree and terms of the contract • envisioned, for L.A. Airways to grant permission for other people to land here on written notice or some type of notice -.is that correct. Mr. Wakefield? Mr. Wakefield: Yes, the original agreement provided that with City Attorney the consent of L.A. Airways the airport could be used by other helicopters. . Councilman Lloyd: I would be quick to say that on the face of it, :.:and from a logical stand, I don't see the total necessity of L.A. Airways to have the exclusive right to operate, but that isn't the question at.h.and. They are asking .for. that .in orderto operate, and so then it becomes a question of am . I willing to forego the possibility of federal and state funds in order to have these operations emanating from West Covina and establish West Covina as a Transportation Center. That is the question we are asking ourselves. Maybe Mr. Cable can tell us why .it is absolutely ,essential to have it exclusive to them. I don't understand either. Mt. Cable: I certainly would be more than happy to. I thought I made it essentially clear. Our problem is not that we wish the exclusive use of the land. As stated in our agreement,we .are more than willing to grant the use of the heliport to anyone that we can determine can operate safely among our heliport operations. If it is a public heliport, no matter what you put in your lease or your ordinance, it will be .ind.i.cated. as apublic heliport by its markings by the mere fact the State of California will require this and it will be listed as a.public heliport and you .cannot -refuse access to..anyoneo_ If our flight is more than 10 minutes landing from the public scheduled time and a guy is chopping off in his helicopter and'we don't know he is, we feel it inflicts -danger upon the passengers we are carrying for hire..and.that ,is .our entire problem. If the City of West Covina is willing to put a full-time controller at the heliport, then.we have no objection. This puts it on an 'equal -par., with the airports we..are flying .in and out of now with our hel.ico.ptersa but an uncontrolled -public he.l.'i.port is .in our opinion an unsafe.operation,and we could not opera-te from it. That is .our total and absolute .reason for it, it's, safety. Councilman Nichols: -I can understand the position of'.L.A, Airways. It was very lucidly presented just now and I canalso understand the position of the City ManagerU but what I can't.under.st.and.is how we could have several months of ne goiations•and.this obvious -impasse has never reached us in all these months..until. now. It is obvious that the first con. - tract presented by L.A.._Airways,. according.to Mr..Cable, .incorporated this limitation, and it._.is ..a.lso .appa.rent .that this limitation is not now and was not ever acceptable to the City. Yet we have gone all this time of drawing tentative plans, charts, issuing bids, etc., and now we find we havean i.mp.asse. I accept the recommendation. of the City..Manager. I believe I am obligated:to. accept that.. He states ifwe.accept the heliport now it would not be .a.-.publi.c facility and cannot recommend the use of funds for that. I agree,it would-be a. -different picture if a proposal was here. to .creat.e. a .f,a-c..ili.ty..-that the City would build and the lessee would amort.i.ze.over a.pe.riod.-of.two...years, but. with a $47,0.00 to $50,000 � largel.y,unrecoverab.le investment:I feel as an elected councilman.I.have very little choice other than accept the recommendation of the City Manager. 5 _. REG. C.C. 1.-26-70 Page Six Award of Bids .(Project No. 700.3) Cont°d, Councilman Chappell., One point - when we originally started this and we.had.the homeownersthat lived near this proposed site .in here, I.was led to believe that this was not an airport that would be used like a bus depot. We were concerned about the noises, safety, etc., and in my thinking there was no time that I thought thi.s would be an airport that would be used constantly. The fact that they get an exclusive.doesn't bother me too much, because it lookslike they.would be the :only ones using it,' 'rather .than so-called am,at-eur pilots,, The fact that we may have thought, we were going to get some money from the. Federal Government and now we know we will not.g is really not the issue here. Councilman Nichols: I have a question. It .is probably not so much that it will or will not be widely utilized or that other vehicles will not beyfunctionally speaking able to use it, but the question raised tonight is the propriety of the City giving up its right as to making the determina- tion whether it could be used by other facilities such as -a police helicopter. There is a--questi.o.n ...inherentin the lease that is raised when you abrogate your right._ as_ a munci.pali.ty to.determine whether..or not it will be used by other ve.h.i.cl.e.s. ..I.n.o.ther words.you appropriate.. the money and then turn .over. the. use..to....the..- lessee and-. thereby..cr.eat.e certain. ethical. and legal. questions, per.haps, that don't ar.i,se when ..you retain the right of determination as to who would u-se .it. So I- was alluding only to that issu4rather than the functional result. In all probability the City might indeed exclude everyone from using .ite bu,i. it is, surrendering that right to a private carrier wheii'.i.t i.ncorpor..ates..... that in the lease, and it is an .is.sue we have to. resolve. Councilman Lloyd: In response, we do have the control; the key i.s we would have to put in. a.controltower. operation For the period of time whe-re-in it -,was -operating you could possibly, operate it from 8..a.m.. .to. 6. pomo as a public airport and beyond'that.'operate exclusively for L..A.. Airways°needs, but you .woul.d.have .to have -a tower operator there. That is all they are asking- ,.for... .This i.s • not -beyond-.the...real.m..of ..poss.ib.i:lity either. We have $50,0.00 that we. have to .come up..wi.th_.i.f..L.A...A,irways operates out of there .for .a year and- a half - Mr. Cable what kind of revenue would y.ou anticipate,.- ju.st. off. .the top of -.your. -head? Mro_Cable: As I recall our projections were over 21 months of operation -that we would return to the City something like $9,600. Councilman Lloyd: All right;, .let ° s arbi,t:ra..ri.1y say it is $5, 000, and if it were. a publ..i-c airport what. kind of .funds doyou think we .might get to apply ag-ai.ns.t._.the operation - Mrm.Aiassa? Mr. Aiassa: There are two figures available. I believe we City Manager have`the possibility of obtaining approximately $25,000.m Councilman Lloyd: We have the possibility of $25,000 .and. the .income of $5,000 and that leaves us $20,000 to back up.. As Mr. Cable_ pointed...out when. we f.irst-..went ..into this thing,we were talking .of-$45,.000 that ..the. City was ..go,ing....to .g.o.... . after. In additional revenue -producing areas1we..have the.pos.s.ibility of ,put.ting .in services such .as sof.t..drinks, the rental of cab .stands., etc., which would still be exclusive :to the.. City, so I think -.:we.would be able. to realize another $5, 000, so. you are now talki.ng..about. $15,.000 that the City would pay.. In -addition to that.. you would. ,have, -.to .hire on a 12-hour operation .at .leas:t.=.3 con.tr..ol:men,.plus:. your. ..r..ad.i..o. •, and: tower .ins al1ation, so.: yo.u_,woul.d. be...p,rob,ab1.y.....b:ack.--.to-_..the:..$.50.., 00.0_ figur.e,..... but you are .in operation and .yo.u-mainta.in;.the.control.that.Council- man Nichols was talking about, and in addi.t.ion to 1 that you have a little bit of your cake. I would like to think it i.s not unreasonable. - 6 - REG. C.C. . 1-26-70 Award of Bids (Project No. 7003) Cont°.d. Page Seven However, in this day of short money, when you are -talking $50,000 we have to.be, cautious because $50,000 is a lot of money. I think what we have to talk. about '`i-s a 10yearperiod of time $5,.000 a year -for 10 years is not a.unrealistic investment for the City. We have -a lot of investments and I am one of theguysthat stands up here and says we have to take the leadership role, and that .is ,exactly what I am saying again. I think we might take this attitude and.put in a small mobile tower and get three operators. Mr. Cable, in your opinion would it be possible? Mr. Cable. Our estimates .are that it would probably.cost,. . for the 21. months of• operation, .ap.proxi,mate.l.y.... $65, 000 and that .is based on 3 operators and the cost of the tower installation. That .is the reason .we struck that possibility completely out. We felt .it would not be of any advantage to your.City to put in another $60,000 to get possib.ly.10 to 15 usages a month. Councilmen Lloyd. When he says "usages" he is -talking. about.land- ing fees, etc., from other helicopters, and . .. that ..i.s not the initial thrust. The thrust is to mainta.inyas Councilman Nicho.l.s.has spoken -about, some semblance of. control in the City ° s hands and still have the operation . . I. am..... certainly not going to dispute Mr....Cable°s-word about the actual cost; I am sure he know infinitely more about it. than I do. 'I do.say. that_ we should weigh this very carefully before making our decision. Councilman Gillum: Mr. Cable, is L.A, Airways still involved in - 'a labor dispute? (Answer ---Yes; we are) What are the possibilities. -on -that? Mr. Cable: We- are. in mediation. at the. pre -sent -time ..and I am very.. hopeful that we wil.l... have ..a .resolution of that- ' n the next 10 days. I think .it .is nearing .a conclusion,- they have been out of work for 15 weeks. Councilman Gillum: Mr. Ai..ass.a, what would bethe time schedule to developthe..p.ad..and the heliport once the con-, tract, was .-Let?, - Mr. Zimmerman. After approval by City Council.for.the award,of City Engineer contract, it will take about 10 weeks before it is 'actually completed. Councilman. G.il.lum: If we decided to go in this direction tonight, we would have an .additional two and -a-_.half . months..bef.ore .we ..could . s.tart --opera-t.i.ono Mr. Aiassa indicated August. -of ..1.971 .as-.ab.out -the-- time they would start freeway construction Wi..th..-the..time-.we. have.-h.ad. to..delay this .for a number of reasons and adding -.two _ .and..-a....hal-f.. mo.nths or .longer, , we. have cut down the time of revenue r.etur-n--_to.....the..C.i.ty at thisl.ocat.ion and. are faced much sooner with..t.he.-. problem... of..hay.ing.- to .find a .perma-nent location. I agree with. what. .has been--.sa:id, and i_n the .past I was one of the biggest supporters of...th.is because-I.be-lieve it.is necessary for the community to establ..ish..a .T.r.anspor.-tati-on .Center,. but I am torn now between two --things -the ..expe.nditur.e. of..publi:c: funds. on something that would. be. private, ye;t- -I .can- under -stand. ,Mr. -Cable Is concern. It is difficult ..enoug.h..to..get.-into...a-.radio-contralled . field with an aircraft.. Jet -alone- one. that -isn° t.-_ I...feel .Council will have to take all these .things into.-consideratio.no ._Mr.. Ai.assa, the Chamber of Commerce had been working in the area of finding other facilities° has there.'been any contact.with them with regard to,find-• ing a permanent facility? Mr. Aiassa: No -• we were .in contact with the Chamber today "City�Manager and their Committee has f avorably'supported this - 7 REG. C.C. 1-�26-•70 Award of Bids (Pro,je.ct.No•o 7003) done°d. Page Eight heliport, but as yet no ..permanent location has been found.:. .I.would like to make a point known that everyone staffwise,includ`ing the City Attorney, has tried every feasible way to make this possible. And to answer Mr. Nichols' que.s.tions/ some- of the delays .were caused by the fact we were dealing .directly. with the State and Federal. agencies to Ibfind out what would be acceptable and what would not, and there were slight delays in communi.cating.o..and we .wanted to develop a plan that would be functional -and not deprive us of benefits .in the future, not only this one but, for..a .permanent f.aci d,ty, and also we have the maintenance and,. upkeep. -factor that..wou,ld..continue from here on after it is built.' :• .1 did raise -...the. fees _w .th-.L..A. Airways.. and....: he did agree to those changes-.,.e.and...I think we had:.. -a veryfu.ncti.ona-l. and workable program .with .the one... proviso. of what.. constitutes. a .public airport. This is.why Mro ...Wakef.i-eld--has. tried .every way to reword the lease so that it wou:ld.be.accept.able. t.o..Lo,A,.'Airways and the Federal and State agencies whom. we have -to depend .on for. the funds that would be available to us.in. the future.. . Mayor Gleckman: Thank you... Are there any .further..comments by Council? I -would 1-.. ke--to ..s-ay whenwe first . . talked..about this ..we- talked.. about a -temporary site, which would get the. maxiumum..amoun.t..o.f.-time..-usage- .for us .to re- cover whatever monies we...wo.u.ld.-put.._.o.ut..:.in._-public..funds— One- of the . bases on which we could.-. j.ust.if.y.:_.the a.ctio-n.....was--t.o see .first of all, in this particular time allotted/that the money we spend would be used with the idea of finding out whether we could. actually support a helicopter service or Transportation Center. That time has been shortened now by at least,6.months.. And..the airways are unfortuna.te.l.y_ on striker with no real -assurance," as to when. they will come back to work. I. as a .public of.fi:cial,. find—-it..very..--_diff cult to offer ..'to. spend -public funds without .it becoming-..a--pub:Lic -.airport-.on .the .basis...... . the people we are doing -business with.ar.e...on . s-t-rike-,with .no ..knowledge. as to when we would beginoperations,-and-:_.we'- wou--l:d ..start ,bui:ldi.ng. an . airport for their exclusive .pri.va.te. use and..maybe .never .operate heliport service in the time we have to gobeforethe State Division of Highways comes through and takes the l>ando. One of. the wads .we.. were .using...to . justify...a public . expenditure was that .it would. -be ..a -..public entity, and. -therefore a future development .f.or._fut.ur.e..hel.icopter...service- .-and _we-wou-l.d...then have the experience in. -.,order to.....apply..for.. the .pr-o.p.er. -funds .in orderto locate the service somewhere pe.r-man-ent,ly-.in..-thee- communi:ty.o Now, this whole -picture has changed, ju.st from... the . idea .-of-.-being...a...publi.c. airport from the standpoint.. -of .-our ..acqui.r ng.- -funds.-fo.r- ..i-t when we go out to acquire the permanent. .loca-ti.on,...-i.f..and . -when .-we .dial . fi:nd , one I would have to leave- .the recommendation ..up --to the.- City . Manager, because I am looking-fo.rjusti-f.i_cation-..in spend ng._$-50,,000. of. the taxpayers° money on a-..fac.il.it.y. I .fi:rst:-. s.tarted- .o.ut -being. very enthused about but9 because of..the_ .length. of--.t.i-me--we--h-ave --to-.work--with. andthe amount of investment .-.we...wou-ld-.h-ave -to. put -dawn. now with the short.- ness of time, it is amortized-_ .to ..a.., much shorter. degree- in order, to be able to justify that -expenditure...-. So -.I.- would...b.e--inclined- at this time, unless the stro.ng.,.prop.o.n.ents.....(.a-nd..T_wzas..one-..o-£.m .the.)... for .the helicopter service in. ..the.._C.ity,...can.-come._-forward---and--g.l.ve. -me_, an..ide.a.. of how we can-. amortiz-e:.the.•..mone.y .-we ---are--author-i.z,i.ng..,.._I..wou.ld - have'to ip go .along with the City,Man:ager.°.s_. r-ecommendat•io-n.. Any further .comments? Maybe I missed the boat some- plac-e ®.any --one -bare --to. comment? Councilman Lloyd: Again I think..-I...find -myself--in the difficult position position of defending-.; and ..-l-- _am --defending).. because I think ..It. is -worth that. _kind of_ a.,, -.- gamble. I think this is going to ..generate monies -..to. .the:-...co.mmun.i.ty.. as. . a result of people renting cars, . _traf-f.i.c. coming--dn- .to -thi.s .area . from . north and south to use this facilit.y,.. which -..won° t .show as a direct income situation. Mr. Cable, do.. -you have any figures that you can recite from Pomona facility with regard to the tax base return? 8 REG. C.C. 1.26-70 Page Nine Award of Bids (Proj.ect No... .7.003) Cont ° d.. Mr, Cable: I don't have the, . tax..base- but w`e did _ several studies on the-r.e-turn.and--we felt, in. a 2 year period9it. would return. . fin excess of $40,-000 to the City if they were ..to acti.vel.y.promote the establ.i_shing....of a . rental car agency, etc. T.he..figures we. ,have-.on..this..for _a municipality is 10/ from the car agency- . Cutting, the .figur-es..in, half . f.rom.-_what the average is at the ..o.ther ._airpor.t.s _: ser.ve.d-.by . Commuter Services,you come up with approximate.1.y...1.0,..0.0.0...automobile-rentals_ at an average of $ 37.40 per rental; . so i..t.... came .up to.. about -- $ 3-7., 000 in revenue to: the City over the 2 year -period- - However.. this, is --all based- on.. the ability of us to .promote_ tr.aff.ic in. .the..-num-b-ers-w-e. ar.e talking. about and we are talk.ing..about .in exce-ss..of. a. half. million pe.ople..in..,the 21 months' time.. ..All, of these things taken into consideration, it would be able to pr...oduce..reve.nue . from.. the -sundry -associated -type enterprises. Councilman Lloyd: I. _:am... asking .y.ou.. to, consider ...thi s as..• a -.potential f.or.._.the . future... -.I think... -if we .los.e ..-i.t-. we-..m-aybe lost . f ore.ver ... I. think. also --we....will .. come .. a. lot closer to it, but if.. -you -or .. the_-..C.i..ty.--. Manager- .or.... an.yo.ne else -says can you guarantee it _ I wou-ld...be .less tha-n..ho.ne.st i.f- I..said I could guarantee. I can't.. I am only offering you opportunity, I am not talking about security. You have- to weigh .this- against where- you -.want the City to go in the, next 10 years.... Mr. Cable: If .I . may offer. a -:further comment. I don't wish to,butt in, but I do think wehave to go back and lgok at .the primary. o_bje.ctive ..when. -we.-- were looking at the heliport.'.''I don°t think there was any inference •that there would be State or Federal .fundsavailable for ,the es.tablish- ment of this temporary facility. The whole course was to see..if we. couldn't develop the .traff.ic -so we .could .go to the government and get the money for the permanent..f.ac.il.i.ty;. and...I..must clarify . one point - this does not in any,way...endanger your. chances for .federal funds for a facility for us to operate fromper.manentlyo The .Department of Transportation has made .it. very .clear by.-.their.'..support. of.` the. New York Railroad, which is a.•pub.licly owned -._company-,-. that they..wi.11 in .fact support, and do intend to.... support.g..a. so-ca.11.ed-.._excl.us ve... franchise .. o-peration for the public.c.o.nve-y:ance...:.-.a-n-d-..nece.ss,i.ty. -.So..this in..no -way endangers what we . were. seek.i.ng.- original .l-y--and-- -th-i-s. was. -that- the Department of. Transpor.ta..tion....fu.nds..-be,_avai.1_ab-l.e .f.or..-the,: .,es,tabl,ishment of a transportation terminal— J.really-, think... -we.. -need to- look- at that hard, because the introduction ..of. State and. -Federal. .funds into this _project came long after . we went ...out .-and-g.o-t_detaided- plans . and approvals from the various agencies :.to._make...th.i.s..a...cammer-cial...h.el.iport .,..Ther..e . was never any referencemade-,.by.-me.. that.. ,there.- would -.be- .any. funds available for this temporary . faci,liay,--...We....we-re- .e-xpe.rimenting,.. we. were out to prove a point:, . one I...think we..have-..to--pr-ove-.if. we...are go,ing.. to get this facility in.West...Covi.na..... We...ar-e.-.go!,ng----to.---have'- one .%somewhere out here and the Department ...of_ T.ran.spor.t.at.io.n-.-.is.-.g.oing..to build it eventually. I just think.....tha.t...is ,..important ..- .The... other. -thingis you. - are not throwing , $ 50, 000 . down the . dr.-gins even. if .it - i s-..15.. months. . You will derive revenue fr.om....th.e-. f.ac.i.1.i.t.y-..wh-ieh-.--wi:.1.1--.af:fset.- those . costs. You are going to:-.deri.:ve some revenue .-..from- ;L......A. ..Airways-- and4 -..... if you actively soli.ci,t, .:the... Associated .bu.s.ine-sse_s- with. -this,. you...m.ay... - ..- derive as much as 75/..of....i-.t.back.... .I.. think. -these .,are .things. -which have not been fully .evdl.u.ated.-.and .have not`. -entered. -in -to .-.the...picture at all. All we are : talking.. about -.i.s ..amorti-.z-ing ..some.. $50 , 000. over a 15 to 18 month period, .-when in--f-a-ct-we---are- _-not. tal-king.-about .that much money;; we are taking .,about _ '-someth.ing--su-bstanti.al-l.y..- le.ss. -if- we, .. . .offset it from the re.venu.e f.r-om... the..:L..o-A..---.Airways-..and--the-.r..evenu.e.s .,that. can be derived from ..:rent al.._car...- age ncies -.arid-..o.the.r-..-as,so.ci.ated.-:bu.si.ne.sses which have specifical ly.- been, ._excluded-._f.r.om- L.....,.A..., Air way..s...part icipat.ing. in a..profit. Our le..as.e.,.__1 -think- -.is prob.abl_y.....t-he .-wo-rst -lease--that-- L,A......Airways .has entered..into as ..far ..as..we...are conc.er.ned monetarywise. We are paying more here and'ge'tti.ng less privileges than any.heliport we are operating. Not that we want to do any favors,for:;;.Wes , Covina, 9 REG. C.C. 1--26-70..:; Page Ten Award of Bids (Pro.j.ect. No- ..Z.0.0..3.) .Cont.1d._ but I want to be here. very ..tr•u.thfu-ll.yo....I..wen:t_ in.:and .pounded on the desk of our Board .of..Directors .and. -.our.. President.- and, said "bend", and we are coming up wi._th. a pr-,e.tty •good..bunch.-of.-dollars for -the terminal facility.° . We have- •already.-.f-il:ed-- with - the -_Civil Aeronautics Board that we plan ..to.•.start _se ry .ce February. -1--..-we are. ,.in, .dire trouble .when we don °t star.t.,wit_hin.,9.0,:d:ays...after that That., .is...our.:problem. We were a little. .op.ti,mistsc,-.about... the ...whole -..thing.. -....We have actively promoted this ser.vi,ce,.thro.ughout-.-.the-Un.ite.d-S-tat.e.s- .---You- can. walk . into almost any- .r.e•ser.vat.i.on--af f.ice.--acros.s-.-.-the- c ountr•.y....and...they ,know L.A. Airways ,is going -to service. We.s-t ..Cov.isn-a.__ We.-,h.ave..done......this..on.. our own and we have spent. -a,. lot, -•o.f _money..i.n.--doi-ng--..it... We..have.. tagged an operational. --•Loss -for, -.th-is-•-2.. month ...pe.r.i,od. i,n...excesS. of .- .$ 200 , 000 to prove .. our...poin.t.o.._ I. - think... you.... should ....look_..at..:it.,.,.as...to.....:::. what we are going to..:.gain.,..in., the.-_endm....._We .-.ar-e....-here .to.-:hope.f.u.11y-, __. .. promote another segment -of ..a .tr.an.spor-ta.ti,o.n focil..:i;.ty9_ .one. I -..think. we all realize we : mu.s.t...have,.... T.he...,freeways -are_ too..- clogged - now;, . helicopters are not. .going. ..to .solve- it by.--any..means,-but -.itmay attract .a facility which will enable you- to..get on a rapid transit line or whatever might come along to help us out of this mess we are getting into, and that is to get from one point to another. Mayor Gleckmarn: What are the other facilities doing now that you are on strike? Mr. Cable: . We have continued to man .most of our facilities. This week I closed down three facilities. If our strike is not solved very soon�we have no alternative but to begin operation with other personnel. Mayor Gl.eckman: I would hate to go along with the idea of trying to put .in this facility and not have one to. use. I would hate in 3 months -to see the facility built .and no helicopters coming' in because of L. A. Airways not having settled their own differences in their'own company. I am, not saying that will happen, but I would hate to authorize public funds without knowing we are going to have somebody there. Mr. Cable: I must say Mr. Mayor that L.A. Airways has not been asked this question previously. L.A. Airways is willing and'will, if we .are .unable .'toibegin service here, to entdr' `into anagr-.e-eme-nt--with- the..ci-ty.--wherein. they- will not spend this money and not .•-ge-t•.a--return--on Councilman Lloyd• Are.. you _..saying, if.....we. .put. the money. up .and you cari°t operate,you.wi.11 indemnify us. against the loss of that money -• is that correct? Mr. Cable: I am saying that our Company would look favorably towards guaranteeing a return to the City that they would : normally have gotten had we been operating. I expected this question some months ago,and I certainly was not going to walk up here and say we will give .you a..che'ck if these things don't happen,, but I.have never beenaskedthe question and felt it must not have been important, Mayor Gleckman: One other .question. If .the .Counci.l. would seek to. make .-a. concession: of-- the, ..idea of a, public to private:,,and-..we.-cou.1d.-.see-.-our..•way.-clear, could we have that spell.e.d..,out.:.a,..l.i.ttle .more ..clearly in order to, let the elected officials know,.,a li=tt-l.e.---m.or-_e-.abou.t-what they were doing in spending money for-..a,,...facility.,. we...don't-have. . k • Mr. Cable: .....I.-think..i.t• would be -necessary to do so. Councilman Gillum:. Wi.th...reg-ard_...to--..fee.s--ret.ur-ned.-t.o--the.-...C.i.ty breaking it down monthly,with the .number of months we have left to operate and a con- struction fee of about $50,000 we would have a return from L'.A. Airways 10 REG.' C.C. 1-26-•70 Page Eleven` Award of Bids (Protect .No. 7003.) Cont °.d. of about $'7500 and,,br.e.ak-ing. th.i.s....down..-.again .in the -amount of. -money indirectly;; brought .into...the,,, city, _.the _.city_._..wou.ldderive about $2600 from` that;;',b'ecause o.f,::the 1/''sales tax. It still. leaves us a balance of about $:40, 000 that- we are saying we are- going . to invest, .in the future Mayor Gleckman: I .don 9.t...agree- .with...,your. ..figures, unless you aIre .under ..... the_ Impression- that ..-.the.. only. thing, ,that is .,going., to,..be..there...i.s-..the. ..helicopter .service. . If you are saying we. are ..not.. go.ing..t.o_be..,...ab1.e.....to..attrac.t,......whi,ch, we,.hay.e.., already had inquirie.s ... on,..,.,car...,J_eas.ing,.... and...which.-.44o.uld .pay., a-.re.ntal.. of X number of dol•l.a.rs..to....the....ci.tya... ,That....was.-one-..th,i.ng.....I., was.:.,, interested in and we,nt.-ou.t..-personally and -.surveyed to. find . out... what. it brings in. I:. think...what .we .are. really. .talk .ing, -about ..isl what,. is this City Council willing... -to..- spend. in -order-.-to.--find .out . whether a facility of this type. i.s...ne.eded..f.or. the_ fu-tu.re..of....t.his, -community. Councilman Nichols: I think that is the. key.. Had .we. had the original 2 year period discussed, or even 20 months of it- but all.of these estimates of income have been predicated on a 24 month period; so the effect of the start-up period on revenues is not as significant over a 20'to 24 month period as it is over a 12 to 15 month period. I felt at the very beginning that,when we talked about expending a great deal of public monies for a trial period ,that 2 years was about the bare . minimum of getting any kind of a trial program and we talked about that as the absolute minimum. But, as the chair has mentioned -by no choice of ours, we have thinned and thinned on this estimate'until now we are talking about 15 to 16 months but we are still talking about this same large expenditure of public funds. 'I would go back to only what.I said before;I have had to rely from the outset on the city staff to investigate carefully and weigh all aspects of it,and the City Manager has come up with a staff position that the staff will not recommend this as a.'project for the worthy expenditure of $50,000, and I don't have the kind of certainty that would enable me to over- rule the staff°s recommendation. It is ,just as simple as that. Councilman Gillum: Mr. Cable stated it would take a certain amount of time to build up the number of passenge.rs,so we know it is going to take sometime to establish and,again,this cuts down the number of months we would be receiving whatever the estimate of return is. It cuts even the minimum of 13 months down. I am'afraid at the present time,. as much as I realize how importantit is to the community, I am..sorry ..that, we have reached the point where we don't have the time to spend that amount of funds. I feel it is very .important to the community, and I wish we could find some other way or area, of having L.A. Airways start servicing the City of West Covina and start our Transportation Center, but with the time left I am sorry I cannot support it. Mayor Gleckman: I hate to put. this Council on the spot, but I think somebody has to, Are we talking about if we..had.24 months to operate that we would be willing to go along..with..the ..pre.se.nt--contract :in .its present form? Yes or No? Councilman Lloyd: Yes. Councilman Gillum: No.,...Mr._.Mayor. Councilman Chappell.:.�....Yes. .- Councilman Nichols o I..would --have... to.. s.ay__what.-,I .,said. .before o If . the st.a-f:f..-can...look-:i.n.to-.this-..matter, and . the di.t.ional.-time ...was-..s.uch. that .staff could ,recommend) then certainly Iwoujldaabut 'I think there is the..element of the public versus the private that has not been resolved. REG. C.C. 1-26-70; Page Twelve Award of Bids (Project .No.. 7003)..Cont.',d. Mayor Gleckman: My..understandi-ng. is that the -.freeway widening and the..answer. we .got . from..Sacramento was , there would._.be-a--possibility.._o.f. it- starting in August, 1971g but that does.n.?t .mean it_wou.l.d,.....it..cou.ld: be August of 1972.: •Mr. Aiassa: The ..Counci.l...has- ...adopted . a- -resolution and we. . have, prod -the State- ancl.-the. plans-. are-re-ad.y.,.: I.t-.is_ . only . a -•._matter. -o.f acquisition. -.of, -r-ig.ht-.of- ways, and our original...._agre.ement.u,lcbr:wiicY -they committed to start the construction. .and. .,then --.through.. some--.othe.r..f actors :. they. were pro- 'longing it for a year....or...so, .- .but.. we.. are ... .now--going-back to -.the original schedule... I. tat-ked.'.to-.-Mr.......Schi�haru-m.. today --.on , .the.. telephone,' and I said I won'.t bu.y--.the .wo.r.d...."possible:°',-I ..want .either. .actual...or not actual, and he is wokking-.-to -go-.. for... .actual-o...-..and he, said.. -they. . assured.. us . ".possible"9 and it -..is. only a matter now .of. -making. . the ..implementation. Mayor Gleckman::. Okay, it seems -.-like ..we. have ...a--recomme-ndati-on from -the staff and -the City Manager that we should .-not sign thi-s --agr-eement---un.1-e_ss--it --is a publ.i.c..---.. .- facility. I have not found this evening,.any. factors of mak-ing. it .a ..- public facility versus the .private facility ofany great consequence with the exception of the amount of time left for -the -use -of .this . facility,which does not give us an adequate amount of.t}me to make the study necessary to apply for the public funds. I agree with Mr. Cable; I don't think whether it is public or private would have anything to do with getting the funds but.,because of the shortness of time, unless we were guaranteed 24 months of operation, I don't see how we can amortize $50,000 over a period of 15 or 12 months, t}�e same as we could over a 24 month period. Tt just doesn't figure out that way. Again, if I am willing to lose $20,000 from the standpoint of what might be best for the community, it doesn't mean.I would be will.i.ng to go along with $30,000 or $40,000, unless we have the time element that could give us the return for our investment; so I would have to go along with staffs recommendation. Councilman Chappell: One thing we may have lost sight of. The mere fact that this 2 years was going to be a trial basis to determine- if...this---wer.e.-.pra.c-tica.l... f.or. our commun:ity,and a Transportation Center. would--then--.b_e....bu:i.l-t or not,. ;:..-.. or whether this was a successful venture....i_n.=the .way-.of....pe.ople. usi-ng-...-...- .. it - I think we.have plenty of time ...to.-de..termine._-wh.e.ther.- the -.publi.c. will utilize this facility.. - I .thi.nk.-..the.y---.wi..1-1...-be...coming. -.i.n.. her .e.. and-_...-...._ . eating in our restaurants and shopping, -at. ,ou.r.. stores whi.ch....wi.11..:.:a11. bring in revenue, which we cannot de-te.rm.i:ne-..now--or-.. put.... down-...on...paper; and at that time we will know. -If.- this- �acil.i:-ty.-.shoul-d-.:.be-..bu-i.l.t....I...- . -. _. permanently in our city. If. it. -is...a_.-.r._eal .ty.-and---we. -h ve..tr. ed.--it,. then, we are that much farther. ahead.-.bu-t...--i.f.-.we . d-on-.1 t.-. try. -it -we, will... . never know- and we 'will probably....n.ever.._..have.---t:he--Transpbr-tat.i-on..Center. that we have been talking .ab.o.ut....for.-...so....long- We ..talk --.. about. .moving . ahead and having the guts .to...vo.te-_our-..._conv.ictions.-;.and.-I- .am ready_. at - this time to vote .that .we.,. s.pe-nd...this,.-mone.yg--.put....i-n--.:thiss .-temporary Civic Center Heliport,.-and--at-the .time .--we-..have.--.to take., it -down we will know whether we , want to - go ..f- orwar-d with- .the - .Transportation Center or back off. I think that.is the...ti.me-..to...real-l-y--make the decision. Mayor Gleckman: I would sure di.k-e..-to---see--what indemnification the C.i.ty-- of....West -.Covina would ..be- .under. if it wasn'.t. _operating at- a,- pa.rti,cul_ar..time..from the dollars and cents standpoints -so. -I.. -would .kn-ow._what--typeof.. investment we were putting in and ....what..-type,.of.. return. : woul.d..be,._expe.cted, before I could vote for. it.,. And----sin.c.e_L-...A Air. -ways. is- on .strike .at-. this time] unless I had this in the agreement -I.. wouldn't._vote. for it. I think we waited this long and had... we---.bui-1,.t..:it and. it. was ready-_ today . it would not be operating and we would not have ..the....indemri,f:e;a.ton .that... we. talked about tonight, and I could just..see...the ne.wsp.ap:ers and .the citizens and everybody else _ $504,000 spent.and ndt...operating. Unless we have something that we can say, ,alright we will. build 'this facility and it is worth this kind of .investment and we are guaranteed 'at .least 12 - REG. C.C. 1-26-70 I.-.....:.._....._.._ Page...Thirteen Award of Bids (Pro.j.ect..No. ..70..0.3),, C.ont_°.d o. some sort of return on . the inve-stment of $50 0.000. - until that time I couldn't vote for -:this. Councilman Gillum__ Mr..-..Mayor9 in...order ..to -.get this on the floor I move that.the C.ity..Coun.ci.,l authorize the Mayor and.. City Clerk. to .execu.te the- agreement with L.A. Airways for the.'heliporto Councilman Chappell: Before I .second that-.moti-o-n- cou.ld we ..add.. that we.wo.u-ld be,., given . our. -money - back. in case they.. don ° t, :'settle the strike? That was one of the agreements he agreed,{on just -now -and --we shou-ld...-make.-.sur..e-..it .:.s In.. .. the contract. Councilman Gillum: Mr. Chappell, I am just getting'this on the floor in order. to bring. this. matter. to.. some.. determination. Councilman Chappel l,,,, won It... add .that.. provi sir. .on... -to. you. motion? .. And --. you o . , ......... _..... .._... .... ..,.._.. _.... _.._. . Councilman Gillum:.,.- I..have no. -guarantee- -and-.. I ..don.' t.-.me_an..to., reflect... on . Mr o ..Cab-le-e _bu.t I .-am sure Mr. Cable would have to get final approval on this they have probably discussed it amongst themselves but -I .wou-l.dn°.t- want ---to.. put. - Mr. Cable on the spot. _........ Mayor Gleckman: As long as we don't have a second .to the...motio.n I don't see .any .reas.on.-..why-- we ..sh.oul.dn t put in there °"providi.ng..L....A... _Airways wou'ld.,.;;agree with some type of indemnification to the City of .-We.st Covina.. -if ..the- £-ie.ld ..is .not in operation at a particular time.", Councilman Chappell: I will make that in. -the. form..o.f. 'a:".mo:t'ion. Councilman Lloyd: I will second .it. - -- --_- - Mayor Gleckman- Councilman— Gill-um,°::s moti:on d:es-- for-<laak of a sec -on(:% --and we:-t ow hare- a- new idaio-n on :.t:he floor . ....author- z ng .,the,-M-ayor,.,:-and City,.=Clerk to. :execute the agreement... with .L. A.. Airways .regarding ..the hel.i_port) providing an indemnification is- agr-eed..upon---:f-or-�-.-s-t.arting-.--date .-of -the airways service (Councilman N.i.chols. .ob j.e.cted.. to- the -.way -the .-.motion .was worded,( stating" it was uncer.ta.in.-.and;-Inde_fin:ite- Counci-lm-an---Ch- a-ppe-ll---a-sked.. the City Attorney if,.he -wou.l.d.,.state,..the .mo tion-1 , . Mr. Wakefield: .I -am .not .sure, .I understand what. kind of an City Attorney indemni-faoat,i-on- you. seek --Are--you talking about the. return -.-to. the City- of ..its ..investment of the construction. of -the he.l<iport if. they are .unabl-e .to operate? Or under the basic .pro:vis-ons- of the -1-ease -Lo ..A..- .A.rways..agrees to pro- vide a minimum ..payment of...$20.0 a. month?- Now- .anything -.in. addition to that would have to.,.be.... required by -a.n-..amend-me.nt-o If...you .want _ to provide that, if.,. -they .-.are...unable.,to ,.star-t..ope.r..at.i.ons_.by. .the time the heliport is completed., that .they...wo.u.l.d._-agree.; to re.i:mburse the city for the cost .and„expenses --it-has incurred-in-.constructi.on of the heliport9 we can -put. -that in. - Councilman Chappell:. ;That is what • I. wanted to say. Mr. Aiassa: Mr._. Mayor I think the Council should state - City Manager are. -we' t.al_k.i.ng about the .lease the City Attorney drafted which you now. have .in your possession, or the .or.i.ginal .lease submitted ..by...-L—Ao-..Airways.. Mayor Gleckman: Public versus private right. I would enter- tain a substitute motion that the matter of W 13 - 0 I,] REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page Fourteen Award of Bids (Project No. 7003). Cont.°d.- authorizing the Mayor and City Clerk to execute this agreement be referred to staff to work out the particulars. My thought insuggestingthis motion to start with was that J was,n.°t.'.speaak ng strictly of-L. A. Airways being operational or not -at the'.time but of the concessions. that we seek to put in there.. I wasn't talking. .about $2O0.00 a month.but in the area of $1,000 or $1,.200.a month .because as.far as I.am concerned .that is the only.way..-we.are going to get:any return.on our invest- ment. And any leases we might.have are going to bepredicated on the operation of L.A..Airways,.and not on the idea of the.field being built. So I would like -to see somebody offer a substitute motion that the particular figure be worked out by staff and.brought back to Council in two weeks,,so we .would ..have some -sort of guarantee and then it is up to L..A. Airways. If. they banked- $.200, 0.00 ,to come to the City. of West. Co.v.in:a,_.-I_am sure talki-ng about.. $.1.20.0 .a month is not going to scare them off providing they are. ,in operation. And with their investment of $200,000 they may -be. -better equipped to guarantee that than .we.,are. Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Mayor, I will accept-youur..substitu.te motion.and make it in the form of a motion. Councilman Chappell: I will second the substitute motion. Mayor Gleckman: We have a motion and a second that this matter be referredback to the staff for a recommenda.- tion,w.ith the particulars discussed this evening to be worked out, with the idea of"exclusive°land°°publicicoming back before this Council and at that time Council would mare that determination. Are there any further comments? Councilman Gillum: Mr. Aiassa, we have before us under the same :project a motion to award a contract to a firm for the construction of this. Correct me if I am wrong - have.we n-o-t-asked this man to hold off once before, from December.3.,and guarantee the prices he has quoted, and now we are going to delay two more weeks and are we going back to the lowest bidder and ask.him to guarantee his prices two .more weeks? Councilman Lloyd: I think Mr. Gillum has a fine point there, but I also think each -of the Councilmen are aware of the fact that we will. have to allow the bids to go back and..we.m.ay have to renegotiate, and I would accept that if .nothing else can. -be .done. We .are- in the area of negotiation and we have to do that which is best., at the 'moment; and if these people want to participate in the construction1probably they will be back in with their bid. Mayor Gleckman: subject the motion I think if we go ahead with the motion and .we..get .a positive vote then ,that would be up to the bidder. . I. don't think we ought to to -that 'condit.ion. Councilman Gillum: If the lowest bidder decides he is not interested and we have to go out for new bids ..the time schedule, please? Mr. Zimmerman: It would probably take about a month to re - City Engineer advertise and come back to the City Council with the bids -.about March 9th.. Motion carried on roll. call -vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum,.Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman NOES: None ABSENT: None - 14 - REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page Fifteen Award 'of Bids (Project No. 7003) Cont.°.do Mayor Gleckman: I would entertain a motion that item a, 1, 2, 3, and 4, of Project 14o0 7003, be continued. So moved by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried. (THE CHAIR DECLARED A RECESS AT 8.55 P.M. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 9:10 P.M.) PROJECT NO. SP-69007 STREET IMPROVEMENTS LOCATION.. Azusa Avenue between the City boundary .north of Francisquito Avenue and Cortez Street. Bids were received .in the office of the City Clerk at 10 A.M., on January 21, .1.970. Council r.ev.iewed Engineer's report. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, authorizing the transfer of funds from Project SP-69006 and from the Storm Drain Design'F.und,as.indicated in the Engineer's report dated January 22, 1970.. City Clerk advised seven bids were received and all were checked and found to be valid bid proposals: Griffith Co., -Los Angeles $494,867,27 Strecker Consto, Santa Fe Springs $496,352.90 D & W.Paving, Glendora $504,334,93 .Arran Bros., Covina $503,451.82 Mike Prlich & 5`onsb Soo El Monte $528,644.27 Sully Miller' Consto, Long Beach $533,990.50 Salata, Inc., Stanton $539,716.20 Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and . carried accepting the bid of the Griffith Company of Los Angeles as presented at the bid opening of January 21, 1970, for $494,867.27, Project SP 69007, and that the.Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execute an agreement with the said Griffith Company for the work. PUBLIC WORKS ITEMS RESOLUTION NOo 4096 ADOPTED Mayor Gleckmano The City. Clerk presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, APPROVING FINAL PARCEL MAP 142.5 LOUIS BRUTOCAO,1v Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, adopting said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gl.eckmaz NOES: None ABSENT: None PRECISE PLAN NO. 354 LOCATION: Caravan Inn Motel, RICHARD N. SCOTT 2804 East Garvey Avenue. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, authorizing the release of Bond 11-2392.1, Precise Plan 354, as requested by.Mr.m Richard N®.Scott. HEARINGS ZONE CHANGE NO. 434 PRECISE PLAN NO. 582 Carl Karcher,Enterpri.ses, Inc. LOCATION: Southeast corner of Glendora Avenue and Walnut Creek Parkway. 15 REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page Sixteen Hearings (Zone Change'434 & Precise Plan 582) REQUESTS .approval of a.zone change from N-C to S-C-; and .approval of a precise plan of design for a restaurant. Recommended by Planning Commission Resolutions ##2222 & 2223. �(Mr. Munsell, Planning. Director, summarized Planning Commission resolutions ##2222 and 2223; slides. shown and explained.) THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONE CHANGE. NO. 434 AND PREG.ISE PLAN NO'. 582. IN FAVOR (Sworn in by City Clerk) Bernard Karcher -I.-would like to.quickly pass to Council a 1200 North Harbor couple ofpictures and a map that we have/ Anaheim showing existing locations throughout Orange and.Los Angeles Counties. The map -will .show where most of our locations are. We have been in business for 27 years. "Carl Jr." is the name of our operations and have a chain of 45 restaurants. Our, memu.consi.sts of hamburgers, hot dogs, salad, fries, etc. (Explained the equipment; interior decoration of facility; employing between-20 and 25.) We do feel we will be an asset to the community. If. you have any que-st.ions, I will be glad to answer. I do hope that Council. can look favorably on the application. R. C. Booth (Sworn in -by City Clerk) 1241 Crowley Avenue I represent the company that owns the property South Pasadena and'we are very desirous of developing our property,and .feel that the Karcher Enterprises is a ,very good outfit. They are a family outfit and we wish your permission to proceed. Thank you. THERE BEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC TESTIMONY .FOR OR AGAINST, PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED. COUNCIL DISCUSSION., Councilman Lloyd: I am of the opinion the. overall. project is compatible ..and I .am -favorably disposed" the only thing that would come to.my mind, which I am sure can be worked .out I .note they have quite a bit of signage and, before they get too deeply .invol.ved, are they aware. of the city ° s restrictions? Mr. Munsell: Yes, they are. Planning Director (Councilman Gillum questioned the 31 wall compromise,and Mr. Munsell explained. Councilman Gillum then questioned the reason for a 20 -gallon water heater in the trash area and Mr. Karcher stated it was to be used to clean out the trash bins.) Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, approving -Zone Change. Appl...i.c.at-ion No-434 Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, approving Precise Plan No. 582,subject to the conditions stated -in Planning Commission Resolution No. 2223, PROJECT SP-7000.6 ..LOCATION: Northwest corner of PROTEST HEARING Franci.squito Avenue and Walnut 1911 ACT (Short Form) Avenue. (Mayor•Gleckman_determined that the City Clerk..did have the affidavit of ,posting and mailing.) Motion by Councilman Chappell,seconded by Councilman Lloyd,. and, carried, to.receive.and file the affidavit of..posti-ng and.mail.ing. (Mr. Fast, Public Services Director., presented verbally the factual data of the Engineer's report.) �;IE REG. C.C. 1-26-70 HEARINGS (SP 70006) Cont°do Page Seventeen Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman -..Chappell, and carried, to receive and'file.the Engineer's report. (Mayor Gleckman inquired -of the.Ci_t�7- Clerk9and was advised that there were no`'wr.itten.'pro.tests_or.objections-against the .proposed work.) PUBLIC HEARING OPENED. THERE.BEING..NO..TESTIMONY9PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED. RESOLUT.ION: NO.:4097- The City Clerk presented: ADOPTED. "A RESOLUTION.OF THE :.CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF .WEST C.O.VINA, IN- STRUCTING THE.STREET.SUPERINTENDENT.OF SAID CITY TO..TAKE.,.CERTAIN. ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF P.C.C. CURB AND GUTTER, AND•A.C. PAVEMENT WIDENING PURSUANT -TO -SECTIONS 5870 ET SEQ..OF THE STREETS AND HIGHWAYS.CODE.OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AT NORTHWEST CORNER OF FRANCISQU.I.TO AVENUE AND WALNUT AVENUE". Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections', waive further reading of the body of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman.Gil.lum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that said Resolution be adopted. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd,,Gleckmw NOES: None ABSENT: None PLANNING COMMISSION Review Action of January 21, 1970 Council reviewed items individually. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, to accept and file action of Planning Commission of January 21., 1970. HUMAN RELATIONS COMISSION Motion by Councilman -Lloyd; seconded: by..Counc.i.lman Chappell, 'and carried, to accept and file, the minutes of the Human Relations Commission dated September 24, 19:69.,,.October 23, 196.9., . and December 18, 19690 WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS a) Letter from Elsie. Sharkus re -Garvey Avenue Name Change b) Letter from Rev. A. J. Duggan re Garvey'Avenue Name Change 1__'c) Letter from Joe Davisson-re Garvey Avenue Name Change Motion by Councilman'Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, referring, items to Public Hearing ..and City Engineer, d) A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Commerce Urging Prompt Implementation of "911'° as.a Universal Emergency Telephone Reporting Number Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, referring to City Manager° e) Letter from Robert Nordstrom, President of West. Covina Symphony Orchestra and Society Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded .by Cou-ncil:man..Chappell, ..and carried, authorizing that the appropriation of $2,000 for the West Covina Symphony Orchestra be turned over to the Recreation & Parks Department. Councilman Chappell: Mr. Mayor - I feel this -would-be a good time to congratulate Mr. Nordstrom on accepting this 17 REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Written Como (Item e.) Cont°d. Page Eighteen position and the excellent work that has been done. CITY ATTORNEY ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented: INTRODUCTION "AN..ORDINANCE OF THE..CITY COUNCIL OF ..THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ADDING PART 29 TO CHAPTER 2.OF ARTICLE IX OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO HILLSIDE OVERLAY .ZONES (Amend- ment No. 104)". Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, waiving further reading of the body of said.Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gillum., seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, introducing said Ordinance. ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented: INTRODUCTION "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST .COVINA, AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES. (Zone Change No. 433 - Love's Enterprises, Inc. 510-5382 S. Glendora Avenue.)" Motion by'Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, waiving further reading of the.body of said Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that said Ordinance be introduced. • ORDINANCE NO. 1114 The City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ADDING PART 30 TO CHAPTER 2 OF ARTICLE...IX OF THE WEST COVINA .MUNICIPAL CODE, RELATING TO PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY DISTRICTS (Amend- ment No. 103)11.3 Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopt- ing said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, GleckmAh NOES: None ABSENT: None ORDINANCE NO. 1115 The City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY --OF WEST COVINA, ADDING PART 31 TO CHAPTER 2 OF ARTICLE IX OF THE WEST COVINA,MUNICIPAL CODE, RELATING TO PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT (PCD ZONE) (Amendment No. 105)".. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by.Councilman Chappell, and carried, waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance° Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopt- ing said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:. AYES: Councilmen Gillum, 'Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman NOES: None ABSENT: None ORDINANCE NO. 1116 The City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE .CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, REPEALING SECTION 6360 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE, RELATING TO THE CLOSING OF BARBER SHOPS ON SUNDAYS98" M■ Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and 18 - REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page Nineteen City Attorney (Ordinance No. 1116) Cont°do carried, waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopt- ing said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES* Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckma; NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NOo 4098- .*The City -Attorney presented.* ADOPTED "A .RESOLUTION. OF THE..CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPROVING PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 583 (Love's Enterprises, Inc..)° Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said. Resolution. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by,Councilman Chappell, adopt- ing said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gl.eckmaii NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NO. 4099 The City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALLING AND GIVING NOTICE OF THE HOLDING OF A GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN SAID CITY ON TUESDAY, THE 14TH DAY OF APRIL, 1970, FOR THE ELECTION OF CERTAIN OFFICERS OF SAID CITY AS REQUIRED'BY THE PROVI- SIONS OF THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA RELATING TO GENERAL LAW, CITIES AND FOR THE SUBMISSION TO THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS OF SAID CITY OF A CERTAIN REFERENDUM QUESTION RELATING TO THE REZONING OF.A SPECIFIC PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY"' Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman Gillum,.seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopt-, ing said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES. Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckmn` - NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NO. 4100 The City Attorney presented:. .ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WESTCOVINA, COVINA, REQUESTING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES TO PERMIT THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS OF SAID COUNTY TO RENDER SPECIFIED SERVICES TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, RELATING TO THE CONDUCT OF A GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN SAID CITY ON..;. -!:L 14, 1970"o Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopt- ing said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gletkmalk NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NO. 4101 The City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF..THE CITY COUNCIL OF - THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AUTHORIZING CERTAIN OF ITS MEMBERS TO FILE A .WRITTEN ARGUMENT FOR A CITY MEASURE.". Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said Resolution. 19 REG. C.C. 1,-•26=70 Page Twenty RESOLUTION 4101 Cont Id. Motion by Councilman Gillum,,seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that said Resolution be adopted. f Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Wakefield,.before.we have a roll call vote are we to authorize all -• or is it written into the Resolution who is to authorize? Mr. Wakefield: The Council should indicate whether they want to City Attorney authorize all.the.members of Council or only certain members to join in the preparation of .the . argument. Councilman Nichols:. _.I.suppose,by the same virtue,.the Council is ..prepared to vote all or some of its members to prepare an argument in favor of.a measure; there would be that remote possibility that the Council might authorize all or some of its members to prepare a statementin opposition. - would that be correct?. Mayor Gleckman: I believe the -way the code is proposed the Council can take that action, but I believe that prerogative remains with the City Clerk. Am I correct, Mr. Wakefield? Mr. Wakefield: There is a certain priority prescribed by the City Attorney statuteunder. which the City Council selects certain of the articles prepared; but if the Council designates a member or members to prepare an argument, either for or against, then that argument has priority over the others •in the selection ultimately made by the City Clerk. For example, after the designation is made by the Council,.comes the proponents of the proposal, then associations within the community, and finally individuals. If the Council chooses to designate a member or members to prepare an argument, either for or against the issue, that argument will have priority of choice over the others. Mayor Gleckman: But what we are doing right now is authorizing all members or certain members to file a written argument for a City measure. Councilman Chappell: Is it a blanket thing? Mr. Wakefield: The Council must.indicate whether.they are City Attorney authorizing all or only certain members to prepare the argument. Councilmam Nichols: Mr.,.Mayor,I am somewhat confused. The statement here is authorizing certain of its members to file a written argument for a city measure® are we talking about the referendum that is on the April 14th election•? Mayor Gleckman: Yes,, but we are talking about an Ordinance the City Council has adopted. Councilman Nichols: So'what we are talking about are arguments in favor of the Ordinance? Mr. Wakefield: That is correct. Councilman Nichols: And the City Attorney is stating if the City Council authorizes its members to write an argumentin favor and the members do that, that argument will have priority over anyone else°s opportunity to write such an argument? Mr. Wakefield: That is correct, City Attorney 20 REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page Twenty-one RESOLUTION 4101 (Cont°d) Councilman Nichols.. If the Council did not -take this action then who, in line of qualifications would be next in line to do that? Mr. Wakefield: The proponents -.and in this case the proponents City Attorney were those who supported the referendum/so there 0. would be no proponentssand the next in line would be the associations or organizations within the city and finally the individuals. Mayor Gleckman: My .question -:Mr. Wakefield, Wakefield, if we pass this Resolution do.we then appointor vote,on the appointing of these members or -is it included in the Resolution? Mr. Wakefield: It is included. Mayor Gleckman: Well,it doesn't say that all members of the City Council will be.a_part o Mr. Wakefield: The reason it doesn't say that is.I assumed that, City Attorney because all of the members of Council were not unanimous in supporting the Ordinancesthat one or more may not wish to join in preparing the argument in support, and that would be their prerogative. Councilman Chappell: When would it be their prerogative? Mr. Wakefield: At the time the argument is signed. It has to City Attorney be signed by the individual members of Council that join in the argument. Councilman Chappell: Is this a normal situation here, or is it the first time around? Mr. Wakefield: Yes it is normal, although it is the first time City Attorney around because it is the first time we have had a referendum in recent years. Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor, I am prepared to vote on this issue. I think it is only right and proper that the. Councilmen who voted to enact the Ordinance should have the right, if they desire, to inform the voters as to their reasons why they feel the voters should support the Counc.i.l°s action. I also think the Council should -give the same prerogative to the two Councilmen on the Council. who chose to vote against the Ordinance. I think it is a, two --way street and I would hope that the Council would grant authorization to its members to prepare arguments, either for or against. Mayor Gleckman: That is the prerogative of Council; howevery any action taken by this Council is taken as a whole by the Council .and not as an individual- as to how he feels or doesn't feel. Now if Council would'so chose to authorize members of this Council to write arguments against, that would be up to the members of Council.. In other wordssif Council decided that all five members would join in writing arguments for a City measure,it would then be the prerogative of the 'individual Councilmen to request removal from that assignment. It would then behoove the Councilman, if he so desires, to request of the Council that he or they desire to write the arguments against the measure. Is there any further discussion? We have a question on the floor - authorizing certain of its members, which is all of its members, to write a written argument for a City measure. Councilman Gillum: If,I understand you correctly, if one or more members desire not to engage in the writing of this9'they are at liberty to vote against this motion? - 21 ,_ REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page -Twenty-two Resolution No. 4101 - Cont°d. Mr. Wakefield: ...As a -practical matter when the ..argument is filed City Attorney with the City Clerk, at that time they can decide not.to sign the argument. Councilmen Nichols: Mr. City Attorney, then is i.t.equall.y correct that•an enabling action could.be taken tonight by Council, in the same spirit, to enable Councilmen who might desire to participate in an argument against the measure, to do so? Mr. Wakefield: Yes sire Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman NOES: None ABSENT: None Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor; may we ask for the heading of a Resolution which will authorize certain members of the Council to file a written argument against the City measure? RESOLUTION NO. 4102 The City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AUTHORIZING CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL .TO FILE A WRITTEN ARGUMENT AGAINST A CITY MEASURE.." Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman'Nichols, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that said Resolution be adopted. Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Wakefield - what this means is to allow any and all .members of this City Council to put arguments forwardagainst the adoption of a City Council measure? Mr. Wakefield: Well,it would .be -against the approval of the City Attorney Ordinance which will .appeari.-upon the ballot by.virtue of the referendum that is filed. Mayor Gleckman: So there is no misunderstanding, if those arguments then come in and ..are .not to the satisfaction of two of, the members of City Council and three of the members vote for them, then they. -stand? Is that correct? Mr. 'Wakefield: When the .argument is filed with the Clerk, it City Attorney will be signed by those members of Council. who .wish.to join in the argument in opposition. Mayor Gleckman: But who decides that that is the argument. - is the question? Mr. Wakefield: If the Council authorizes the preparation of an City Attorney argument in opposition to the ordinance then that argument will have .Priority in the point of the selection process over other arguments that may be filed in opposition to the ordinance. Mayor Gleckman: And if Council can't come to any agreement that that.-argument.is to -be selected then does the City Clerk go -out -and take the next -.person who could come up with one? - 22 - REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page Twenty-three Resolution No. 410,2 - Cont°d. Mr. Wakefield: The action tonight will be the action by City Attorney which the City. Council authorizes the prepara- tion..and.filing of the argument by certain of its members,in opp.o.si.tio.n:'to'the. Ordina-nce that will be .on the ballot. If you -approve .th.is .Resolaation..now,,.you..are-.in effect giving permission to those members. of the ..Council.-who...desi.re .to do -so to. join in the preparation of an argument which will be printed and circulated to the vote.rs.in.support.of the Ordinance. Councilman Lloyd: Mayor Gleckman: Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Wakefield: Mayor Gleckman: And that is not, ..debat able,; is. it? That is my question. It °i-s not subject to vote once we take this action and come in withthe arguments that doesn't require a vote at that point? That doesn't require a vote. The point I am trying to make - what if five of us come up with five different arguments for and against? How do you decide which argument? Mr. Wakefield: You have already authorized one in favor of City Attorney the proposition.. This would authorize an argument against. The Clerk would only be in a position to accept one argument signed.by those members of Council willing to join in the argument in support,and a second argument • signed by those in opposition. Councilman Nichols: The question is - those Councilmen that might not see fit to sign a particular argument would not have.the veto power over the argu- ments signed by some other members of. Council? Mr. Wakefield: That is correct. Councilman Gillum: With this action this would eliminate any group that has been. formed - mainly. I. am referring to the group that served the referendum - this would eliminate them altogether from expressing their disapproval of the ordinance as it has been passed - is that correct? Mayor Gleckman: That is what I really had .in mind. I didn't want to negate their authority to do something, since they were the ones to initiate the action against the City measure. We are shutting them out. Mr. Wakefield: The situation will be.if this Resolution is City Attorney adopted,.that members of the City Council will have the first right to prepare and file an argument in opposition to the Ordinance on the ballot. If no such argument is filed -within the time the City Clerk will fix, but an argument is filed by the proponents of the initiative, then -the Clerk will have the responsibility of selecting that argument to be printed: Mayor Gleckman: I understand that, but I want to make it very plain for the record -• I can understand a Resolution authorizing certain of its members to file a written argument for a City measure.,because it is a City measure and an action taken by the City Council, but now the City Council did not introduce a referendum and I feel those people that did should have the opportunity to write that argument and not be usurped by this Council. ,_ 23 F REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page Twenty, -four Resolution No, 4102 _ Cont°d-.. Councilman Nichols: I._appreciate.that.,.and as one that -opposed this on the Council floor, -I-would-be the one to receive the wrath of,the citiz.ens.•because the right to speak in the bulletin is as dear to the Councilmen that lost the vote as it is to th-6se that won the. vote in the .issue., anq it is only a city proposition at this -stage. -until it is -confirmed or rejected by the voters. It is only a pending. matter .no.w9and I would like to have the'.opportunity.to reserve unto.the..m.inor.ity-.:.members of the Council the.right to enter an argument.-. If we..see fit at a later date to give way to the citizens.who desire to express their feelings and give up our place .to them ', the .l.aw-will allow -us to do this;, but if -we don't gain.. the courtesy .to do ..th.is..we -cannot at any later time as Councilmen list ou-r names and arguments. .So I think it is a very wise thing that Councilman Chappell and I leave ourselves that option tonight,and for that reason we -request our opportunity to file the argument. Mayor Gleckman: And I am not trying to be "cute", but am I correct in thinking that you are speaking for Mr. Chappell? Councilman Nichols: No, but if I am not he can cut me off. Councilman Chappell: Mr. Mayor, call for the vote. .Councilman Gillum: Mr. Wakefieldeis there any election code covering the content of arguments9,for and against.9that spells out what is allowed and disallowed? • Mr. Wakefield: There is no specification as to the nature of City Attorney the argument.. The sections of the .election code that apply simply limit the length of the argument not to exceed 300 words,and it must be signed by the individuals -on behalf of the organization that has prepared the argument. The control really is in the acceptance of the arguments. Councilman Gillum: But there is nothing that would control or -limit any information, whether it is factual or distorted? Mr® Wakefield: No, there is no prior censorship on behalf of City Attorney the City Clerk. Councilman Gillum: And there is nothing to cover statements for or against this? Mr. Wakefield:' No sir. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, .Nichols, Chappell, .Lloyd, Gleckman NOES: None. ABSENT: None Mayor Gleckman: I gave my "aye" voteywith the supposition -that whatever arguments are written meet the approval of the people who first injected a .referendum in order not to negate their position. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Chester Shearer 1704 E. Alaska Ave. West Covina filing the arguments, I have a question on the previous subject. Does this last action prohibit the proponents of this measure in joining with Councilman Nichols, and perhaps other Councilmen, in if Councilman Nichols would so'concede? - 24 - REG. C.C. 1-26-70 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - Cont°d, Page Twenty-five Mr. Wakefield:. I think it boils down .to this. -that City Attorney. Councilman Nichols.,or..any other member of the Council . as an individuals may -sign -the argument for or agai.nst.. In that respect other individuals may join with him.,not to exc6ed a.total of .five. However, as.a member of Council and using his designation as such, he would only be authorized to sign that argument.that is prepared- pursuant to the Resolution adopted tonight. Mayor Gleckman: Mr.Shearer.,I think your question is - if Councilman Nichols selects an argument against the City measure that was passedghe can only be joined by another Councilman if he uses the name of "Councilman".,and if he uses the name of "Russ Nichols" as a citizen then I believe he can be joined by no more than four other names. Mr. Wakefield: That is right. Mr. Shearer: If Councilman Nichols would defer the pre- sentation of arguments to others.,could he then add his name if they were not prepared by him? Mr. Wakefield: The Code does not authorize that. What it City Attorney authorizes is the selection by the Clerk from among the arguments.presented, an argument to be printed and circulated along with the sample ballot, and choosing among the--argu-me-nt-s-submi-tted the statute prescribes a priority and the first priority goes to the City Councilor a member of the City Council or members of Council authorized by Counclmto sign the . argument. If no such argument is signed,then the second priority goes to the individual voter or bona -fide association,or a combination of voters and associ.ations...who-.were the bona -fide sponsors or proponents against the me.asure...-In--this..case weare talking about the argument. against .the, .pr.oposition.,.and..Cou-ncilman Nichols as an individual voter might..joih with..the_,proponents.of the referendum and sign the. a--rgument.- against -i.t, but he could not use his official title of Russ Nichols as Councilman. Mr. Shearer: Thank you. Mrs. Charles Lindberg Gentlemen, I think you are to -be 1845 Golden Vista Drive commended in your giant step forward .in West Covina the cultural development you just -.began this evening. I' am past president .of the Phil -Harmony Choral Club that has operated in your city for the past several years. We have sent letters to your Council and last year we received a reply asking for more information. I would like to have you take into consideration next year in your City budget the appropriation of $200, at least.,to our group. Covina has supported us in that amount this last year.,and as we.'have 12 singers from the City of West Covina we hope that our City will also support us. Do you have any que.stions? Mayor Gleckman: No.questions, but I think a little advice, Give as much information as possible ,to the City Manager in order to help you cause. CITY ATTORNEY - Cont°d. RESOLUTION NO. 4103 The -City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL .OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING RESOLUTION NO 1277 RELATING TO DEPARTMENT HEAD AND EXEMPT POSITION SALARIES°P.7 Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no.objections, waive further reading of the body of said Resolution. - 25 - • • I REG. C6C. 1-26-.70 Page Twenty-six RESOLUTION NO. 4103 - Cont°d. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopt- ing said.Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows.: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman NOES..: None ABSENT: None - RESOLUTION NO. 4104 The City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING RESOLUTION NO® 1072 RELATING TO THE SALARY OF CITY`ATTORNEY. Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body.of said Resolution. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopt- ing said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NO. 4105 The. City Attorney presented: ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 1277 RELATING TO AUTHORIZED POSITIONS9SALARIES AND. CLASSIFICATIONS"T (Engineering Department) Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said, 'Resolution. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopt- ing said Resolution. Motion carri6d,on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, :Gleckman NOES: None ABSENT:.None RESOLUTION NO. 4106 The City Attorney presented:' ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 1277 RELATING TO AUTHORIZED POSITIONS'AND SALARIES9° (Fire Department) Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said Resolution., Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, adopt- ing said Resolution. Motion carried -o-n roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman NOES: None ABSENT: None MAYOR GLECKMAN CALLED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION'OF COUNCIL AT 10:14 P.M. .TO DISCUSS CITY MANAGERS SALARY. COUNCIL. RECONVENED AT 10:40 P.M. UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 146 TAR DEVELOPMENT (Oral Report) Mr. Wakefield: This is a matter that is a little more City.Attorney complicated than I would like to deal with in an, oral report;, so 9 if I mayp I would request permission of Council to prepare a written report for the next meeting. So moved by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried. - 26 - REG. C.C. 1-26-70 Page Twenty-seven CITY MANAGER ngs_ Use of Ci"tv Facilitiesfor Mee'' ....._...........___..... Mayor Gleckman: Any comments by Council? =.,The one comment I had,and which I made to the City Manager earlier, I believe they are talking about "groups or organizations associated or affiliated with any . organization listed by the Attorney General as being subversive ..." and not as listed "subservice.'" Motion by Councilman. Gillum, seconded .by.Councilman Chappell, and carried, accepting.. .the proposed.policy for the use of the City Hall facilities as proposed in. Agenda. Item- -I. - 1,-. dated -January- ...22, 1970. League of California Cities Managers ° Division_ Conference February 25 27 Motion.;by Councilman Chappell, seconded by,Councilman Lloyd, granting permission to the City Manager to attend the League of California Cities Managers_°.Division Conference, February .25-279at a cost not to exceed $100.00. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd,. Gleckman NOES: -None ABSENT: None Williams &.Mocine Statement� Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman.Chappell, approving the payment of $1,441.00 to -Williams & Mocine for the CBD study. Motion carried"on'.roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleekma • NOES*. None ABSENT None Chamber of'.Commerce letter re Sign Ordinance Mr. Aiassa: We had ..a .short meeting today .with..s,t.af.f...._and I would.l.ike to cut the time down - instead of 60 .days - i-t will. be 30 days for the study, and if any extra time is needed --.it can be .extended from th-at .time. Also upon the recommendation of staff:,and for whatever value it might be to Council, we would like to suggest to Council the naming of a Councilman and a Planning Commission representative, and three members of staff. The -three staff members would be Mr. Munsell, Planning Director, Mr. Zimmerman, City Engineer,and Mr. Fowler, Director of Building & Safety. Mayor Gleckman: I would entertain a motion that a commercial sign regulation review study be made within 30_ days with representatives of the business community, a,City Council`representative,.a Planning Commission representative, and staff participating. So moved by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and.carried. Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, to accept and file Agenda Item I-4 dated January 12, 1970 pertaining to Sign Regulation Review. Councilman Gillum: Councilman Nichols: With regard to item #4, Mr. Aiassa, will you please.forward a copy to L. A. Times so they get the f acts correct. Mr. Mayor, I don't quite understand how this Committee is to be created. Mayor Gleckman: According to the City.Manager he would like a representative of Council, Planning Commission, staff representatives and 5 from the business community. 27 REG. C.C. 1-26770 Page Twenty-eight. City Manager (Cont'd'.). Councilman Nichols: I understand that, but it doesn't say how the representatives are to be established. , Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa: Councilman Lloyd: Mayor Gleckman: Would you like to serve Council representative? accepted.). on that Committee ash (Councilman Nichols; The suggestion is to consolidate the Committee and then ask the Council to ratify - that is the normal procedure. This really represents a kind of Ad -Hoc Committee and final determination is made by Council. That is correct. Traffic Committee Minutes (Council considered each item individually.) Councilman Gillum: I would like to bring to the attention of the Council that I have had a number of phone calls from individuals in the area with regard to the 3-way stop at the intersection of Ferntower Avenue and Quinnell Drive. At the tme.I had no idea whether the Traffic Committee would accept or deny the request or what the recommendation would be. The people that spoke to me felt the Traffic Committee was not really aware of what exists,and they made the request that if there was a denial they would like to discuss it with the Chief of Police and the Traffic Committee, because they felt they were not aware of the situation as it exists with the traffic flow and number of children, etc. Mr. Aiassa: If it is the wish of the Council,we can hold this matter over and refer -it back to the Traffic Committee. (No objections by Council) Motion by Councilman Gillum,.seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, to accept and file the.Traffic Committee minutes dated January 20, 1970, with the exception of Item l which is held over. Minutes and A enda - Annual.Review Councilman Lloyd: I might comment that Andrew Fuller of the Progress Bulletin has been gone for several years - the man is now Joe Gender. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Mayor Gleckman, and carried, to receive andfile the yearly review report on those receiving the Council Minutes and Agenda. Police.Crime Lab Report Mr. Aiassa: This report.is just to advise Council that we are notifying other cities of .our needs and demands:`.and that we are also applying for .Federal funds. Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Mayor - I think this is an excellent pro. - gram and I commend City Hall to move with all possible haste on it. I think it is very necessary.and it would save considerable time and money to the citizens of this area. Richard N. Scott - Caravan ^Inn Parking Problem_ Mr. Aiassa: As Council will remember,this was requested by Council - it is an informational report. - 28 - REG. .C.C. 1-26-70 Page Twenty-nine CitX Manager (C6nt-1d) Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Mayor - a question. Do I detect or am I missing something - is the Caravan Inn in total accord?. Mr..Munsell: The contact I had.was.just a review of the Planning Director exis.t.ing.situation,which...was that.an. agreement was signed.with ..the -adjacent ..property which was app-roved .by ,the. City Attorney . and. which satisfied their parking..demands; we checked it because .it. has a 30 day cancellation clause, to determine astowhether the agreement was still in effect,and.it was.still.in effect.° Councilman Lloyd: They are not unhappy -but are in basic agree- ment? Mr. Munsell: Yes sir. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,.to receive and file informational report. Councilman Gillum: Mr. Mayor - may I go back.to one item — Police Crime Lab report. This was one of the strong recommendations from the Mayor's Narcotics Advisory Committee, and I am wondering if it would be advisable to forward a copy to the Chairman and some of the members of the Committee, to at least..let them know the progress, cost, etc., to implement one of their recommendations. • Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Gillum, to send a copy to the Chairman of the Mayor°s.Narcotics Advisory Committee and members. Motion carried. (Mr. Aiassa asked permission to add 3 items to the agenda. Council agreed.) Senior Clerk Position Mr. Aiassa: As Council will remember, we have five positions to redo under the classification of Senior Clerk. We met with Kr. Gold and it will take about three or four trips to study this position. We would like authorization from the Council for an expenditure of $300.00. We have this money in the Contract Services budget of the Personnel Department, earmarked -for these purposes. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that Council authorize the expenditure of not more than $300.00 from the Contractural Services budget.of the Personnel Department to be paid to Mr. Gold, consultant, for a study on the positions of Senior Clerk. Councilman Lloyd: What are we going to gain by going to Mr. Gold at a cost.of $300.00? Can°t we rewrite the job descriptions with our own people? Mr. Aiassa: No. Because we are dealing with positions that are now filled and in the process of reclassifyi.ng,I would prefer to use an outside party in case the result is unfavorable to some. I.would not want my Personnel Officer to be on the spot. I feel the money .involved is -worth having the study done by an outsider. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, .Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman NOES: None ABSENT: None - 29 • • REG. C.C. 1-26-70 City Manager - Cont°.d.. Page Thirty. _.:. '.: Council. Quarters Furnishings Mr. Aiassa: I have to havee-autho-rization from.City Council to -proceed with the furnishing of the ...Councilmen's area, which has never been furnished. The original.plan.adopted several years ago for the quarters has now.been.changed. We. £igur.e it wi.11.run,.appr.oximately. $5975, plus a'cabinet and refrigerator which is ano.ther.$.1100.00,to furnish. This will -still be cheaper .than. the....o.rigina-l..pl-an calling for individual .areas...and..end-i-ng...up- w,i.th.--a..-clutter-ed..-.1-ook.... We need Council approval .and_ -.we. have the funds_ .ava-il.abl.e-.in ..account PB 6400. We have checkedwith the.City.Attorney andwe can -buy these furnish- ings without written spe-cif.ications' and.bi-ds,. which would.be awkward and -expensive. (Explained furnishings needed)... Mayor Gleckman: Councilman Lloyd: Unless.Council feels objection to holding after April? otherwise,is there any this matter over until This is not designed individualized to a person, is it? Mr. Aiassa: No, it is designed -similar to the room in the Council Chambers - and,rather than the individual desks and chairs,the design of the area is open and conducive to the greeting of guests. Councilman Lloyd: My reaction is that we have talked about it and discussed it for so long, and I think it is one of the things that is'required at this point and is not tied to an election. There is no gain to any person sitting on this Council, past, present or future. The gain is to the City and the room will be used that way. Motion by Councilman Lloyd to authorize the City Controller purchas- ingagent to purchase the required furniture as recommended by the consultant for the Council bay, and determining that competitive bidding is impractical, and authorizing him to proceed on the basis of negotiations; and the money to be expended from account PB 6400. Seconded by Councilman Chappell. Motion carried on'roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman NOES:. None ABSENT: None Fire Station No..5 Mr. Aiassa: As Council knows;we are closing the program on Fire Station No. 5. We have now con- summated a con.tract whereby we can clear that property,and I would like authorization to have the Controller draw up a warrant not to exceed $500.00, made out to the Metropolitan Savings.& Loan, to open and close escrow. So moved by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman.. NOES: None ABSENT: None RESOLUTION NO. 4107 The City Attorney presented: . ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE -CITY OF WEST COVINA, RELATING TO O THE CMPENSATION OF THE CITY MANAGER..". Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said Resolution. - 30 - • REG. C.C. 1-26-70 CITY. CLERK Crippled Children'.s Society -,Request Page Thirty-one Motion by Councilman.Gillum,.seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, granting the request of .the Crippled Children's society to place coin containers in West Covina stores for Easter?Seal Campaign from February 23 to March 29, 1970.. 5 Lanterns".Re.s.t.aurant of West..Covina -.Request Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman.'Lloyd., and carried, granting the request of .the 5 Lanterns Restaurant of West Covina to use Chinese Fire Crackers to celebrate Chinese New Year, February 5, 6, 7, 1970, in accord with the proper fire pre- cautions. ABC.Application Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that there be no protest filed on the ABC application of Ralph's Grocery Company, .635 N. Azusa Avenue, West Covina. .(Mayor Gleckman advised City Clerk had -.an additional item to add ,to agenda if Council had no objection. No objections.) Request..of Julius Stern.. -.Auctioneer Mayor Gleckman: We have a letter from Julius Stern, public auctioneer, requesting authorization to sell the store fixtures at auction on Wednesday, January 28, at 10 : 30 a.m. , of Mr. Norman Fond of Scotty Lee' s. Mr. Stern is a licensed auctioneer in the City and County of Los Angeles and meets the code under 6236. I would entertain a motion that permission be granted. So moved by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried. CITY TREASURER'S REPORT Month of December,, 1969 - Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell,. and carried, to accept and file City Treasurer's report for December, 1969. MAYOR'S REPORTS Proclamation -. BoV Scout Week ._-� February Z_13, _1970 Mayor Gleckman: If there are no objections by Council, so .proclaimed. (No objections) Approval of Resolutions for retiring Police Officers to be-Perma-plaqued. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, .that the resolutions for the two retiring police officers be perma plaqued. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum,. Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gle_ekman NOES: None ABSENT: None West Covina.Beautiful - Liaison Appointments= Mayor Gleckman: We have a letter from the West Covina Beautiful group making several requests -..I believe you all have copies. Regarding paragraph 3 of this letter (read). What is your pleasure gentlemen? - 31- 1 REG. C.C.1-26-.70.. Page .Thirty-two Mayor. Is Reports Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by-Councilmari Gillum, and carried, that this entire letter bereferred to the Recreation & Park Commission for their discussion and recommendation back..to the City Council. Communication from West .Covina Chamber of Commerce re',. Merced/brange Avenue Plan Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that this letter be referred to staff. COUNCIL COMMITTEE.REPORT.S- Councilman Gillum: Last Friday evening the Employees' Association held a meeting here which was well attended, and discussed the proposedretirement plan. They had representatives from the State Retirement, Social Security, the actuary, and our City Attorney - Mr.,, r. .Wakefield. .All were present to answer' -questions. The bailots,were,sent'out today to the employees and we hope .to have them` back by Thursday. If they indicate positively they want to go to State,. then the material will be put together by the Retirement Committee and submitted to the Personnel Board at their first meeting in February, for their consideration and recommendation to Council. Mayor Gleckman: I also had a request to.proclaim West Covina Youth Hockey Week Celebration,and if there are no objections I.would so proclaim. (No objections.) Mayor Gleckman: I would also like to request'of Mr. Aiassa to set up a meeting to resolve the water situation. (Mr. Aiassa acknowledged.) DEMANDS Motion by,Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd; that Council. approve demands totalling $223,625.24 as listed on Demand Sheets C678 through C680. Motion carried on.roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Gleckman NOES:- None ABSENT: None Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, adjourning meeting at 11:10 p.m. ATTEST: City Clerk APPROVED: MAYOR F" 32 = nb