04-01-1957 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF,THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
April 1. 1957
The meeting was called to order at 8>10 P.M. in the Coronado School at Glendora
and Hine Avenueso
Present: Mayor Brown, Councilmen Mottinger, Cru�ey, Kay; Pittenger
Others Present: City Manager; City Clerk and Assistant Administrative Officer,,
Planning Commission Secretary
Mayor..Brown: Before we start this hearing, Dr. Ostoich, the President of the
Jest Colrina Chamber of Commerce has a resolution he desires
to present at this time,
Dr. Ostoicho There was an erroneous .report in the newspaper tonight which
we believe was inadvertently placed, The Chamber of Commerce
recognizes the population growth of the City necessitating the
installation of'addi.tional hospital facilities within the
City of West Covina. Accordingly the Chamber of Commerce
recommends the City Council of West Covina take steps toward
the development of more accredited hospital facilities and
services in West Covina aslong range plan of benefit to the
• community.
Tonights newspaper stated that we went on record .to encourage
this gro7ap (City Council) to pass this ?oning request. However,
the Chamber of Commerce feels the de^ision on such matters
are up -to the Planning Commission and;the City Council only,
Mayor Brown: We are operating under Ordinance No.- 502 of the City known
as the Procedural Ordinance of the City Council, Under
Section 1.16 is contained the manner of. addressing the Council
the'the time limit. Each person addressing the Council shall
step up to face the Council giving their name and address and
unless further time is granted by the Council the time limit
. of address shall be three- 0) minutes. All remarks shall 'be
addressed to the Council as a body, not to any one particular
members No one not having the floor shall be.permitted to
discuss this directly or indirectly with the Council. No
question shall be asked except through the presiding officer.
All those desiring to give testimony shall be duly,sworn in 'by
the City Clerk and false testimony can be punishable under
Section ll8 of the Penal Code.
UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO,, 18 Mayor Brown stated that this was the time
Dr, Samuel. Ching & Mrs. Lilly Ching and'place for public hearing on Unclassi-
REFER.RED TO PLANNING,COMMISSION fied Use Permit No. 18.
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LOCATION.- Northwesterly side of Glendora Avenue, between Service and Cameron
Avenues.
REQUEST- Permit to construct and operate a hospital. and attendant facilities
in Zone'R-A,,
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-those desiring to. present testimony in regard to this matter were sworn in
by
the City 'Clerlrc.
Mayor
Brown: Is -there a general spokesman for the proponents and opponents?
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If not all those who were sworn in 'by the City Clerk are each
limited to three minutes but if., there is a general. spokesman
a certain length of time can be designated for both parties.'
Mr.
Eldon R. Clawson, Attorney -at -Law stated that he was 'generally representing
those
inoppositionbut did not necessarily desire to limit the time of ethers
who
might wish to speak in opposition to this matter.
Mayor
Brown- It -is the opinion on of the Council to permit each side-2 time
limit of 45 minutes to nresent.the-ir case, if those wishing to
present testimony will concur,
,Those wis-hing to pre'sent-tes-timony concurred with the decision
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of the., Council on time limit.,
Maps
were presented by -Mr.-Gerschl.er who presented and read Resolution No. 480
of
the Planning Commission recommending apprMTal of Unclassified Use Permit No. 18-
The
Planning Department Remarks were
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Subject property ispresentlyclassified-R-A, Potential. Rl,
2)
The.property is ideally located for the uses proposed, particularly from the
standpoint of a centralized location.
3)
An analysis of the report submitted with the application substantiates the
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various factors applying.to the location of a hospital in this City.
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Further analysis of properties available for such uses within the City has
shown that this site undoubtedly is most suitable.
5)
The Precise Plan presented will provide an exceptionally well designed
facility exceeding all standards of the City of West Covina.
6)
It therefore the recommendation of the Planning Department that the
application 'be approved based upon the date presented in the above -mentioned
report and upon investigations made 'by the Planning Department, and subject
to the condition that the entire property be developed as an integral unit.
7)
Studies showed that those residential, properties which are adjacent to this
site and are facing Service Avenue will be affected by this development and
should receive proper consideration prior to the approval o,l' this use.
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The recommendations were read as follows:
1) ' That all street improvements outlined in Section 49, Ordinance No. 2259
including utilities, be installed accordingly and meet. the approval of the
City Engineero This to include street lights, sidewalks and sanitary sewers.
2) That the Precise Plan conform to the proposed R.O.W. of Cameron Avenue
extension per C.S.B. No. 24532.
3) That all necessary- street widening of Glendora and Cameron Avenue shall be
deeded to the City of liTest Covina. . I
4) That all buildings and signs not exceed the heights shown on the Plot Plan.
5) That all exterior, lighting 'be instal -led and maintained in a mianner eliminating
any nuisance to adjacent residential property.
6) Thpt adequate water supply and fir-e- protecti-on be provided as required 'by
Ordinance. No. 237 and Ordinance No. 451.
7) That all excavating and 7rading work conform to provisions of Ordinance
No. 3P4.,
P) That all bonds, fees and. deposits for improvements be posted before building
permits are issued,
9) That the site be graded to drain to public streets or that suitable storm
drain facilities be provided, satisfactory to the City Engineer.
10) That all driveway openings be shown as .30' 011 wide.
11) That the street intersection curb returns be shown as 350
0" radius.
It was further recommended in the motion of the Planning -Commission that the use
of any medical or professional unit shall not be allowed until at least 255 of
the hospital has been constructed.
The fallowing stated itheir favoring this hospital for the reasons that I.t is
needed in the City, it is an excellent location and would be of no detriment to
property, making surrounding property even more valuable in long -,range planning
for the, city;
Mr. J. Carlson of P63 Service P,venue,, owner of property within 300� radius.
Mrs. Mary Van Dame of 1534 E. Garv6y Boillevard.
Mr. S. Brander of F2P W. Service Avenue'.
Mr. Richardson of 100P West Cameron Avenue owner of property within 3W :radius.
Mr. R, Blood of 703 S. Glendora Avenue within 300' radius .
Mr. R. Harrison of 715 So. Cilendorn.Avei-iue,�-,ti,Tithin 30101 radius.
Mr. E. Foster or 706 S. Glendora Avenue-4rithi.in 3001 radius.'
Mrs o R. Elliott of P32 W. Service Averlue
Mrs: R. Blood of 703 S. Glendora Avenue within 3001 radius.
Mrs. J. Heath of 906 W. Se±3'vice fi.-irenuewit-hin 300V rad.l.us.
Mrs. F. Elrich of P16 W. ' nlri �e Avenue
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Mr..E * Good. of 738 S. Glendora Avenue., -within 300v radius.
Mrs. _R. Carlson of P36 W. Serrice Avenue
Mrs, S.. Brander of P28 W. Service Avenue
Mr. Eakin. of -922 Herald Street
Mr, M. DArby of P01 '
S. Glendora Avenue within 3001 radius
Mr.'W. R. Barnes of 720 S. Glendora Avenue
Mr, L. Robbins - interested in)property at,744 Glendoraq corner of Cameron and..
Glendora Avenues.
Mr, L. Scott of 72.0 S, Glendora Avenue,
Mr, D. Means of 726 S. Glendora and operator of Means Ambulance Service stated
he ,was in favor.of',this and as an operator of Ambulance Service stated distances
that must be traveled to reach nearest hospital, and upon arrival findB situations
makin'g it necessary to go to another hospital, :
Mr. D. Ha,rni.sh, architect of .this plan., with place. of buisness in Ontario spoke
in favar, He' had been employed by the onwers of this, .property to make a survey
of this site and had done so, submitting report to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Harnish stated the report established need for hospital in this area and
was an excellent location for such a purpose at this site so far as roads and
acces;sabili.ty. No adverse effects upon adjoining property with histories of
hospitals insmall cities bearing this fact out.
• Mr. Means stated that in regard to noise created by ambulance sirens around
the hospital area., a policy exists of stopping sirens anywhere from one to
two blocks from the -hospital area. He brought to.the attention,of the Council
that ambulances pass up and down Glendora Avenue 24--hours a day, that the
hospital at this site would not add to siren noise 'but that it would even cut
it down,
Mr. * Eldon R. Clawson, attorney representing opponents stated in essence that
those in opposition were not -against a hospital in the city but opposed to use
of thisparticularsite for such a project. There hasbeen alack of forcible
detail -on this matter by.-the.proponents. Itwasopponents belief this was a
Premature thing with no justification or proof of need as'regards public con-
venience,.-ne,cessity and public welfare- Proponents did not show what type of
• organization will be used to.(aonstruct, operate and.mainta-i,n this hospital.
There was -no indication as..to whether this would be a private profit making
orgainzatiDn.use a non I profit making use',' or a district hospital operating,
under the laws of the-State.of Cali-Pornia. Nothing was. said as to type of
financing to Construct this use, I or whether this will, completely private financing
or -the City called upon to contribute to the hospital's support with aid of
.federal and state funds... 1,1hether this would be open to all practitioners or a
closed staff open only to friends of the doctors
octors in control.
Statement was made by -Mr. Clawson regarding
garding need of good public service hospital
in the community but that no showing had been made that this was the type of
organization that would be run at this site. No statement has been made by proponents
that this hospital would be open to all racial and ethnic groups and unless
• it isshown, that it twill beoperatedfor the peoples benefit, it is not necessary -
.'to public convenience, necessity and welfare, I .
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Mr. F. Aiello of 1013 W,, Cameron Avenue'�' West Col7ina spoke in opposition.
He presented statistics showing proposed hospitals and.beds.
Glendora Hospital
Inter -Community
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st Covina Hospital
Hartland Hospital,
Lark Ellen Hospital
76 Beds proposed -under construction
98-More beds proposed
77 Beds proposed
20 Beds
57 Beds
Beds proposed or existing
It was stated that this group, -under Dr. Moser.9 was going to have.a. No. 1
priorty for this area. Mr. Aiello referred to a booklet presented to the
Council showing the priority to be a long way from No. 1 in the area, designated
as No. 17.
It was stated that -the total beds needed in this area which is 304 is exceeded
already by total of 328 proposed.
It was suggested this area give Inter-, Community and surrounding hospitals full
support and -if that is done priority for this area will become even smaller
instead of going up to No. 1, what with (316 ndora Hospital having proposed 76
beds and West Covina Hospital havin, proposed 7 beds,
• Statements were made regarding c6 ' st of - operation of hospitals and of 'building
such a project. ' Quoted cost from three denominations., one o-l' a 250 bed hospital
with cost'for 1956 $29P93,450-00,) another denomination stated cost of operation
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'bout $40.00 per day per hospital bed coming close to three'r million focost
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in one year for operation, Ruildin.7 a hospital, stated Mro Aiello, costs about
five million dollars.
Statement was made regprOing difficulty of obtaining financing and of getting
priority in this area anti that although there is a possibility of private
financing such an idea would be difficult to believe at the cost of 'building
such a project.
Mr. Aiello stated that it was his belief that newspapers had carried the state-
• ment that Dr. Moser had quoted, "aid would -come from business men in the City"
and if that is soy concentration should,be on helping Inter -'Community Hospital
which already- has 123 'beds and proposed., through contracting with the State
and through federal aid, possibility of 9P, more beds.
It was stated regarding Inter. . Community being an.accredited hospital with the
other five hospitals becoming accredited in time and thus having five accredited
hospitals within 30 minutes time to get to.
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Mr. Mohnicke was sworn in by the City Clerk. Licensed real estate broker with
offices at 608 S. Sunset and residence at 1307- E. Herring Street', West- Covina.'
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Mr. Mohnicke stated he had investigated other sites at the request of the opponents
and found many where there were no residences around four sides of various other
properties and that there were acreages along Walnut Creek Wash to both the north
and south,, that could be used. -with the wash acting as a natural buffer to protect
any residential property near a proposed hospital site. There were also sites
and land for sale .that are completely isolated. He also'stated it was not neces-
sary to have six hospitals .iithin five minutes of each other and that the pro-
ponents acted on their own convenience because they own this piece of land and
not because it is ideal, with no thought to people around the area, otherwise
they would have searched out other sites in the immediate area;for such use.
. Mr. To Gettys of 733 California Avenue spoke in oppoistion. Reported on
investigation made as,regards placing of various hospital sites in surrounding
areas from Los Angeles to Fontana. Most hospitals not centered in a residential
area. A hospital use in Monromia. was unfavorably voted upon by that city because
it was too close to a residential area.
Mr. H. Leslie of 727 S. California Avenue, employees of County Assessor's Office
and speaking in personal capacity as a home owner and not professing to speak for
the County Assessor or any other county, state or municipl.e agency, opposed this
matter and in essence offered statistics and reports available showing that a
hospital site does have an adverse affect on residential. property.
Mr. Charles Kranz of 667 California West Co,=ina spoke in opposition stating that
• many people had moved into this city and area under the impression that this area
was strictly residential and feel that,the City would be breaking faith with its
people to pu.t this use here. The Council should keep that idea in mind..
Mr. J. Bell, 721 S. California Avenue, ',lest Covina spoke in opposition., with regard
to extra traffic this would 'bring into the area. He stated statistics of cases
in various departments such as emergency, maternity, out -patient etc.,,, indicate
that there would be on an average of 100`people leaving and entering this hospital
daily with 150 cars per day, twice daily, during visiting hours. Reference was
also made to the children in the neighborhood and the imminent danger it would
bring to them in this extra traffic.
It was stated that bringing a hospital into tills area would break up the primary
residential characteristics and also when such a use comes in it is inevitably -
followed by commercial uses that desire to locate near hospitals.
Mro W. V. McKay of 893 Oak Park Place, West Covina was sworn in by the City Clerk.
Mr. McKay spoke in opposition. Statements were in regard to primarily keeping this
a city of beautiful homes and to have this use permitted would definitely strike
out this small area, it would endanger children by bringing in excess traffic,,
and possibility of appartment houses coming in within the area.
The attorney summed 'up
Lion to a hospi.tal..9. it
nature and there is no
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the City.
the various arguments and again stated there is no opposi-
is needed, but not at this site. That .area is R--1. in
over-riding necessity for such use on theis particular
permitted it would be serious breach of the master plan of
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Mr. Harnish and another member of the audience spoke in rebuttal.. Mr. Harnish
directed his rebuttal to the figures regarding hospitals and 'beds proposed
as stated by the opponents, and that the booklet presented to the Council by
the opponents was the same presented ty the proponents but with great variance
of the figures and the way theyTL-re read by the opponents and the proponents.
Mr. John Preston, Administrator of Inter -Community Hospital and residing at
526 Montezuma Jay was introduced by Mr. Harnish.
Mr. Preston stated in regard topopulation figures and priority No. 17 in the
area as stated 'by the opponents,,. as of' July 1. 1955, that there had been a ch6nge
• in allocation sinl� that time for 12. projects that received help at that time.
That 82R area was 17 on priority list with 11 projects'receiving help but there
had been an increase in population from July 15 1.955 to October 31 of 1956.
According to Regional Planning Commission figures there are 205,000 people. It
was further stated three hospitals were actively operating and he did not know
of existence of the West Covina Hospital with the number of beds mentioned.
Even with Glendora Hospital -under construction there would still be a shortage
of 343 hospital beds in the area at the present time. . According to present
population -figures of three beds per thousand the need is 778 beds within this
area at the present. time .
Mr. D. Richardson of 1008 W. Cameron Avenue, West Covina spoke in rebuttal
• stating that the argument of financing of this project had nothing to do with
the necessity and need of this hospital. This should be done after this zoning
is granted. It was stated that it was his opinion that such a use was something
to be proud of and was not a detrim'ent to surrDundin.,-,, property. That he was
speaking from the experience of living near a hospital that was right in the
center of a residentia'l district. Mr. Richardson did not think that this would
bring any increased danger to children in the area than the danger that is
already there and that the city is growing and shall continue to grow bringing
in greater traffic problems any -way it is looked at.
Mr. M. L2rrabee of 2017 E. Cortez Street questioned traffic danger since the
Lark Ellen Hospital will have a school located near it and the Inter -Community
is located near a park.
Mr. R. E. Frye of 1020.S. Lark Ellen Avenue, IJest Covina questioned detriment
to property and why a hospital would be of any more detriment than a school
site which if it is needed is put in regardless of whether located in midst of
residences or not.
Mr. A. Gebhardt of 334 N. Leland Avenue,, West Covina Spoke in rebuttal and
stated that the issue is whether there is need for a hospital and is this a
good, central location for such use. It wasevidentthese people would be
perfectly willing to have hoscital but.not here. Architecture and landscaping
are unusually well, planned,', well kept and not detrimental in looks nor does such
use create traffic hazards.
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There being no further testimony, the hearing was declared closed.
City Clerks There are certain communications which should be read into
this hearing since they have been :received since the hearing
before the Planning Commission. As of this evening, 11.80
cards have been received frr,m those who favor this measure and a petition has
been received Containing 26 signatures in .favor. These names are not duplicates of
these already received, making a total of 12.06 persons in favor of this appli.cation
for hospital use.
• Of the original 614 signatures appearing on the original petition in opposition to this
issue we have received 12 letters from people who wish their name to be removed
from the petition.
Mr. Gerschler presented maps representing individually owned properties within
apnroximately ond.-quarter to one-half mile of tht proposed hospital site. The
property of those in favor was designated by red coloring on the map, those in
opposition designated by green coloring.
Mr. Gerschler: The properties within the confines of the 300 foot radius
areas -shows 43 properties in opposition and 42 properties
in favor, with 9 not represented on either petition.
Councilman Kay: Mr. Preston' what would the increase in population in this
area from 1955 to 1956 as stated by ,you do to our area on
the basis of priority, iey what would be your opinion on
priority based on those figures?
Mr.. Freston: In accordance with information received from the Bureau of
Hospitals it would, at the present moment, place us in No.l
priority within the State of California.
Councilman Kay: How are funds presently allocated?
Mr. Preston: Allocated the latter part of July on that precedent.
Councilman Kay: When does the Hill. -Burton Act run out?
Mr. Preston: This is the.last'year for the Hill®Burton Funds as the law
presently exists.
Councilman Kay: Has it been re --enacted?
Mr. Preston: No, it has not.
Councilman Kay: Speaking of fiscal year 1.957-1958
Mr. Preston: That is correct. for fiscal year 1957-1958. Appropriations
• ,are made as of June 309 1957 and ends iri June 30, 1958.
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Councilman Kay: If you have a hospital such as Inter -Community already receive
assistance under the Hill -Burton Act, can you qualify another
hospital to receive funds?
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Mr. Preston: According to present policy of the Allocation Board, if the
hospital is within the service area which is 82R you can qualify
for funds illthe application is on file providing 113 portion
of funds are made available through local solutions other than tax solutions.
Councilman Kayo Is there a second hospital filed within the 82R service area?
Mr'. Preston, To my knowledge, no.
Councilman. Kay- Would those funds have to be put up before July 1, 19570
Mr. Preston:
Councilman .Kay:
Mr. Preston:
Mayor Brown:
Within 120 days of the date of the approval of the funds for
that particular project.
What is the latest date this could be qualified under the
present law?
June I of 1•957.
If there is no further testimony this hearing is. declared closed.
Councilman Kay- I have sat on this City Council for three years and have heard
some pretty important issues come before the Council but I have
never seen an issue as important as this where the proponents, or the group back-
ing up.the proponents would not stand up and -testify and believe me., I am dis-
gusted with it. There has 'been the mention of a lot of doctor's names in the
newspapers but not one doctor stood and stated what this. would do for the community.
There was a. lot of data presented to the Planning Commission but no one stated
what 82R meant on 'behalf of the proponents and no one stood up for needs of beds
in the area here and I certainly think if any group was sincerely interested in
putting this over they have done a very poor job here this evening.
• Councilman Crumley- From the testimony here this evening there is no doubt
that everyone believes we should have a hospital in West
Covina. However,* the proponents for the hospitals and we
have to have a. valid case for rendering a decision, hatre presented no case whatso-
ever. We have no knowledge of .their plans, their desire to proceed, whether ready
to go or what can we do about the hospital. Nothing to, judge this case on whatso-
ever .
Councilman Mottinger- I have listened to the comments of the proponents and
opponents and frankly I am disappointed in the presentation
of the proponents of the hospital plan. We have maps which are just maps showing
the proposal. We have read the Minutes of the Planning Commission meetings but
we need presented to us some real facts that would make a case to judge by. I
have studied the Precise Plan and as far as I can see of the general aspects the
only objection would be the four-story buildings and do not believe that is entirely
necessary. The landscaping proposed would take the Isti.ng9 out of the site for
the surrounding neighborhood. and I do not think it would be entirely objectionable.
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Councilman Mottinger Continued-. One thing that was definitely overlooked
in the opponents testimony and that is the
fact that Cameron Avenue will go through
this area regardless of whether 't'he hospital is -out in or not. It will be a
80 foot street and Glendora a 100 foot street. There will be plenty of traffic
regardless of the situat-ion of the hospital.
Needs for the hospital must 'be clearly established and I personally feel there
is no question we need a. hospital. However.9 the facts presented do not convince
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me it has to be at this location.
I expected we would get a lot of statistics.
and reports this evening and expected
to recommend that we take this matter under advisement and study it. However,
at the present time we do not ha-.Te those -statistics to consider, but even So
it may be in order to give this come consideration in a study session and I
would like to make that suggestion.
Councilman Pittenger: Iq too, would like to commend the opposition on their
well. presented case,, Glendora and Cameron are going
to be busy streets. Additional traffic to Come to
this area because of this hospital is negligible s ' o far as California Avenue is
concerned. There are entrances off Cameron and Glendora but no entrances off
California and if Cameron Avenue goes through you will still have a traffic
problem.
Another thing is that the City can7t take the initiative in purchasing property
for a hospital, the hospital will have to come to use We will have to decide
.if it is anappropriatesite. If it is a good site and the Planning Commission
recommends it we are going to have to take that under serious consideration.
I was very disappointed in the lack of presentation by the.proponents of this
hospital Plan.
Councilman Crumley- We have spent a great deal of time on.analyzing the
plans for this ,hospital, It generally appeared the
over all plan good with the exception of the four,-
• story. On the other hand, as stated previously., there seemed to be no case
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-v,fhatsoever as regards the proponents, nothing on which to proceed and I would
like to make a motion in regprd,.to this matter.
Motion by Councilman Crumley, seconded by Councilman Kay that Unclassified
Use Permit No. 1P be denied without predjudice.
Mayor Brown: This is probably one of the most emotional meetings
that could have been held and yet it has been the
most orderly *of any meeting that we have had.
I agree with the Council that no case was presented tonight. I would like to
comment that the height of buildings on R-1 can be 35-feet high. Maybe we
should change R-1 zoning to one-story in height.
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Councilman Mottinger- Before a -vote is taken on the motion made I would
like to make one small comment.
I realize that a zone change Fuch as this in a residential, ai°ea is contrary
tea the master plan of the City. However, I point out that the City has hot been
able to, or would be able to, designate an area for a hospital, so at some time
that is going to have to be corrected. We are going to have to have a hospital
at some -place in our City which means that somewhere along the line residents
are going U to be adversely affected and it is going to, be the duty of the Council
to take necessary action in the interests of the entire community. We represent
the,entire city and must think along the lines where the entire community is
concerned.
Somewhere along the line when the proper time Comes we will have. to act in
favor of a community hospital.
Mayor Brown stated that since the decision of the Council is adverse to that of
the Planning C,^mmission the motion made would have to be ammended and the matter
referred back to the Commission,
Motion of Councilman Crumley seconded by Councilman Kay and carried to amend
motion to deny U nclasiified Use Permit No. 18 and to refer Unclassified Use
Permit No. 1F to the Planning CDMRIiSSion-with the recommendation for denial due
• to lack of evidence presented by the proponents this evening.
There was no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:20,P.M. until
April nth for purpose of interviewing prospective Planning Consultants.
Regular meeting Monday, April. 8, 1957.
JAY D. BROWN
Mayor of 'the City of West Covina
ROBERT FLOTTEN'
City Clerk of the City of InTest ovina
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PUBLIC HEARING RE UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 18
APPLICATION OF DR. SAMUEL CHING AND MRS. LILLY CHING
NORTHWESTERLY SIDE OF GLENDORA AVENUE, BETWEEN
SERVICE AVENUE AND CAMERON AVENUE, CITY OF WEST
COVINA
Held on Monday, April 1, 1957, at 8:00
o'clock p.m., at the Coronado Elementary
School, Glendora and Vine Streets, West
Covina, California
BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL:
MAYOR JAY D.. BROWN
COUNCILMAN JAMES KAY
COUNCILMAN WAYNE CRUMLEY
COUNCILMAN VERNON MOTTINGER
COUNCILMAN DALE PITTENGER
CITY CLERK, ROBERT FLOTTEN
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OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
DEPOSITION NOTARY
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.MAYOR BROWN: The meeting will please come to order.
Jim Kay will lead us in the pledge of allegiance to the flag.
(Pledge of allegiance to the flag.)
MAYOR BROWN: Before we start the public hearing for
Unclassified Use Permit No. 18, I understandthe President
of the Chamber of Commerce has a resolution of the Chamber
of Commerce that he would like to read at this time.
DR. OSTICH: Last Friday the Chamber of Commerce
passedthe following resolution. There was an erroneous
report in the newspaper tonight. It was probably an
inadvertence, but this is the resolution:
The Chamber of Commerce recognizes the population
growth of our City, which needs the installation of
additional hospital facilities within the City of West
Covina. Accordingly the Chamber of Commerce recommends
that the West Covina City Council take such steps as to
encourage development of more accredited hospital facilities
and services in West Covina as an overall plan for long
range community benefits.
That is the end of the resolution. Tonight's newspaper
stated that the Chamber of Commerce went on record to
encourage the group to passthe zoning ordinance. That is
not true. The Chamber of Commerce feels that such matters
are up to the Planning Commission and the City Council.
Thank you very much.
MAYOR BROWN: This public hearing will be held under
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Ordinance 502 of the City, known as the Procedural Ordinance
of the City Council.
step to the rostrum,.shall give his name and address in an
audible tone, and unless further time is granted by the
Council,time limit of the address shall be three minutes.
All remarks shall be addressed to the Council as a body,
not as a member thereof. No person other than the Council
or persons having the floor shall be permitted to enter
into any discussion either directly or through a member
of the Council without permission of the presiding officer.
No questions shall.be asked of a Councilman except through
the presiding officer. Under the ordinance, the presiding
officer may require, and the presiding officer is going to
require everybody that gives testimony tonight to be sworn
in. Under this ordinance, any false testimony is,punishable
under the Felony Code, Section 118, which states that every
person who, having taken the oath that he will testify and
declare, depose or certify truthfully before any competent
tribunal, officer or person in any case in which such oath
may by law be administered,wilfully and contrary to such
oath states as true any material matter which he knows to
be false, is guilty of perjury.
I bring that up because there will be a Court Reporter
here so that all of you will be sure that you are giving
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true testimony and sticking strictly to the facts,.
This is the time and place for public hearing on
Unclassified Use Permit No. 18. All those wishing to testi
please rise and be sworn in.
(All witnesses were sworn.)
MAYOR BROWN: Is there a general spokesman for the
proponents, and the opponents, or does each one of you
want to give your own individual testimony? The reason I
am asking this, all of you that stood up, if you want to
limit it, you may do so; otherwise,'we will set it over
for a period of a certain length of time for both parties.
MR. EIDON R. CLAUSON: I would like to speak on behalf
of the opponents, but not necessarily to limit the time of
other persons opposing the ordinance.
MAYOR BROWN: How many wish to speak in opposition of
Unclassified Use Permit No. 18?. Please rise so that we can
count you.
(Those wishing to speak in opposition rose.)
MR. CIAUSON: We are expecting some others to come in
later who would like to speak.
MAYOR BROWN: It is the opinion of the Council to give
each side 45 minutes: Do you agree with that?
Do the Proponents want to present their side of the
case at this time?
First, I wish you would read your Planning Commission
resolution firs,will you, please?
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MR. MALCOLM GERSCHLER (Planning Department and Planning,
Commission Secretary): This is the Planning Commission
Resolution No. 480.
A resolution of the City Planning Commission of the
City of West Covina recommending the approval of Unclassified
Use Permit No. 18 upon property located on the northwesterly)
side of Glendora Avenue, between Service and Cameron
Avenues, in the City of West Covina, California.
The Planning Commission of the City of West Covina
does resolve as follows:
WHEREAS, there was filed with this Commission a
petition of Dr. Samuel Ching and Lilly Ching, requesting
an Unclassified Use Permit to construct and operate a
hospital and attendant facilities in Zone R-A under
provisions of Ordinance No. 325 of the City of West Covina,
upon property owned by the applicants and located on the
northwesterly side of Glendora Avenue, between Service and
Cameron Avenues in the City of West Covina.
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission did on the 15th day
of January, 1957, conduct a duly advertised public hearing
as prescribed by law to consider Unclassified Use Permit
No. 18 on that property legally described as follows:
Then follows.a lengthy metes and bounds description.
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission finds the following
facts to exist:
1. Subject property is presently classified R-A
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potential R-1.
2. An intensive survey shows a substantial need for
hospital facilities in.this area. This survey also indi-
cates that presently planned facilities will not keep pace
with anticipated population increases.
3. There is an obvious need for a community hospital
of such size to economically permit maintenance of
sufficient staff, diagnostic and treatment facilities,
and other specialized services required in the modern
metropolitan community.
4. The property is ideally located for the uses
proposed, particularly from the standpoint of access and
serviceability.
5. The precise plan presented will provide an
exceptionally well designed facility, meeting all of the
standards and requirements of the City of West Covina.
The elements of said plan appear to give adequate
protection to surrounding properties and will assure a
reasonable degree of compatabilityto the neighborhood.
Now, Therefore, Be It
.RESOLVED that Unclassified Use Permit No. 18 be
recommended for approval and that beforethis may be exercised
all conditions enumerated thereinafter shall be complied
with and be made a part thereof.
1. That all City improvements outlined in Section 49,
Ordinance No. 225, including utilities be installed
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sewers.
2. That the precise plan conformtD the proposed ROW
of Cameron Avenue extension per CSB, No. 2452-2.
3. That all necessary street widening of Glendora and
Cameron Avenue shall be deededtp the City of West Covina.
4. That all buildings and signs shall not exceed
the height shown onthe plot plan.
5. That all exterior lighting be. installed and
maintained in a manner eliminating any nuisance to the
adjacent residential property.
6. That adequate water supply and fire protection be
provided as required by Ordinance No. 237 and Ordinance
No. 451.
7. That all excavating and grading work conform to
provisions of Ordinance No. 384.
8. _That all bonds, fees and deposits for improvements
be posted before building permits are issued.
9. That the site be graded to drain to public streets
or that suitable storm drain facilities be provided
satisfactory to the City Engineer.
10. That all drivewayopenings
p ngs be shown as 30 feet
wide.
11. That the street intersection curb return be shown
as 35 foot radius.
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12. That use of any medical or professional units
shall not be allowed until at least 25 percent of the
hospital has been constructed.
Finally, resolved that a.copy of this resolution shall
be forwarded to the City Council for its attention in the
manner prescribed by law.
I hereby certify that the foregoing resolution was
adopted by the City Planning Commission at a regular meeting
held on the 5th day of March, 1957, by the following vote:
Ayes, Commissioners Green, Jackson, Towner, McNutt; Noes,
none. Absent, Commissioner Morgan.
(Signed) E. N. Green, Chairman, Planning Commission.
MAYOR BROWN: All right, the proponents may state their
case at this time, please. Is there nobody here that is
going to speak for the hospital?
MR. JACK CARLSON: My name is Jack Carlson. I live at
836 Service, nest Covina, within 300 feet of the proposed
hospital. I would like to be put on record as for the
hospital. I think it will be an asset to the community,
and I think in case of a major disaster of any sort, or any
sort of difficulties, any sort of disaster at all, that I
wouldn't want to hold up any project like this at all.
I am definitely for it.
A SPECTATOR: I don't know if I should get up or not,
but I am for the hospital definitely.
M. BRANDER (828 Service Avenue) I am for the
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hospital. I think it is a very good improvement for the
community.
MR. DALE RICHARDSON: Nay name is Dale Richardson. I
live at 1108 West Cameron. I live within 300 yards of the
hospital. I think that personally the hospital is an asset
for the community, and I feel that if a catastrophe should
happen, it is something we all would desire. If we didn't
have it, we would be up the creek. There are many reasons
that people have given against the hospital, which I feel
are unsound and unreasonable. The opponents talking
against the hospital are purely selfish, have selfish
reasons. I think that the community needs it. I have
looked into it a little bit myself, and I feel it is a
logical spot for the hospital in every shape and form.
I can't see why or where we could put a hospitalthat would
be in a better spot. I feel also that we have a man that
is willing to put this property up for a hospital zoning.
Personally it takes a lot of gumption in my eyes because it
will be quite awhile before he can utilize a profit from
his ground. That, too, is a selfish reason, but I think
the Council has to considerthe facts that we are faced with.
We need a hospital. We have a plot of ground. The Planning
Commission feels that it is a logical spot for the hospital,
and I feel very strongly thatthe Council should pass this
for a hospital.
Thank you.
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MR. BOB BLOOD: My name is Bob Blood. I live at 703
South Glendora, within 300 foot radius of the plot of ground
that is in question for the Unlimited Use Permit, and I
would like to go on record as being in favor of the approval
of this particular plot of ground.
MR. ROBERT HARRISON: Robert Harrison. I live within
a 300 foot radius of dais proposed hospital, and I want to
go on record as being in favor of it.
MAYOR BROWN: Excuse me, Mr. Harrison. Will you give
your address for the record.
MR. HARRISON: 715 Glendora.
MR. ELMER FOSTER: My name is Elmer E. Foster. I live
at 706 Glendora Avenue. I am for the hospital one hundred
percent.
M. DON MEANS: My name is Don Means. I live at 726
South Glendora. I want to go onrecord as being for this
hospital. Not only am I on record for it because I live
directly across the street from where the proposed hospital
will be, but also, I operate the ambulances in this City,
and I know how desperately bad we need a hospital.
(Applause.)
MAYOR BROWN: May I interrupt you a minute? This is
probably one of the largest public hearings that has ever
been held within the City. I think it is the biggest. Let's
make it the most orderly.
MR. MEANS: I would like to make mention here about the
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distance that we have to go with the patients that we are
hauling here in West Covina to the hospital stations for
hospitalization. It is often that we get to hospitals
nearby and they are full and we have to go to another
hospital. We desperately need the hospital.
Thank you.
MR. EDGkR ELLIOTT: I am Edgar Elliott. I live at 832
Service Avenue, and I am in favor of the hospital.
MRS. ROBERT BLOOD: I am Mrs. Robert Blood, 703 South
Glendora. I live within 300 foot radius, and I would like
to go on record as being in favor of the hospital.
MR. JAMES W. HEATH: I am James W. Heath. I live at
906 West Service Avenue, directly adjacent to the property,
within a 300 foot limit, and I would like to go on record
as being in favor of the hospital.
MRS. FRANK ELLIOTT: I am firs. Frank Elliott, 816 West
Service Avenue. I would like to say I am for the hospital.
MR. ELVIS GOOD: Nay name is Elvis Good, 738 South
Glendora, which is directly across the street from the
hospital. I am very much in favor of it.
MRS. ROSEMARY CARLSON: My name is Rosemary Carlson.
I live at 836 Service Avenue, and I would like to go on
record as saying that I am in favor of the hospital, and the
location, in my opinion, is ideal.
MRS. SILVAR BRANDER: I am Mrs. Silvar Brander, 828
West Service Avenue. I would like to go on record as in
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favor of the hospital. I think the plans are wonderful. I
looked them over very, very carefully.
MRS. DOROTHY EGAN: I am Dorothy Egan. II live at 822
Harold Street. I would like to go on iecord as in favor of
the hospital.
MR. DARBY: I am within the 300 foot limit of this
property. I am very much in favor of the hospital. I
think it would be a wonderful asset to the community.
MR. WILLIAM R. BARNES: I live at 720 Glendora, and
I want to go on record as saying that I am in favor of the
hospital.
MR. LESLIE ROBBINS: I am interested in the property
at 744 Glendora Avenue on the corner of Cameron and Glendora
Avenue, and I want to go on record as being for the
hospital.
MR. -A. L. SCOTT: I live at 710 South Glendora. I am
very much in favor ofthe hospital.
MR. DEWEY HARNISH: I am an architect and my office is
on Ontario, California. My office specializes in the
planning and construction of hospitals. We were employed
by the owners of the property to make a survey of this
particular site and we have donethis.. We have prepared a
report which we submitted to the Planning Commission at their
regular meetings. We believe that this report establishes
definitely a need for a hospital in this area. We believe
that this particular.site is very well located to serve the
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area which it is planned to serve. We believe that it is
located as far as roads and accessibility are concerned,
that it is an excellent site. Our experience would indicate
that it would have no adverse effect upon the adjoining
properties. I believe histories of hospitals in small
cities will bear this out. I think, in conclusion, that
it is an excellent site for the proposed plan, and I believe
the hospital as planned in the precise plan will serve
a great need and serve it well for the City of West Covina.
Thank you.
MAYOR BROWN: Is there anyone else who wishes to speak
in favor- of the hospital?
MRS. SHIRLEY M. FOSTER: I live at 706 South Glendora,
aid I am in favor of the hospital.
MRS. FLORENCE E. CARPENTER: I live at 902 West Service
Avenue. I want to go on record as being in favcr of the
hospital.
MAYOR BROWN: Is there anyone else who wishes to testify
in favor?
MR. RICHARD'ROWICH: I live at 18615 Tudore in Covina.
Although I am not greatly concerned with this, as a neighbor,
I would like to say that I am a technician. I have seen a
great need many, many times in our office where we have a
patient who needed hospitalization. I know that this
facility proposed by Dr. Samuel Ching would be a great value
to the community of West Covina and also a great value to
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those surrounding this area. It has been my experience to
see many emergencies, and I know that if those who are
against this hospital would stop and think, they would
realize that if their children or if anyone, their parents,
or they themselves were injured or suddenly taken ill, they
would realize how convenient and sometimes how life-saving
it would be to have a hospital within this jurisdiction.
Thank you.
MR. DON MEANS: I would like to make mention of one
other thing that has come up before about this. It is the
noise created by ambulances around these hospitals. It is
the policy of most ambulance companies to kill the siren
anywhere from one to two blocks away from the hospital.
Now, we run up and down Glendora 24 hours a day. It certaii
wouldn't make any more noise than they already have in the
area. If aaything, it would cut the noise down.
MAYOR BROWN: Anyone else wishing to speak in favor?
We set this up with a 45-minute time limit for both sides.
The proponent started at 8:18.
If.not, we will give it to the opponents.
MR. ELDON R. CLAUSON: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council
My name is Eldon Clauson, 1045 Susanna Street. I am an
attorney at law. I am representing 614 residents of this
immediate area who signed a petition opposing this applica-
tion. A number of them are here. I don't believe that any
of these people oppose a hospital as such, but their
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opposition to this application is an opposition to the site
for the proposed hospital, and with your permission, I
would like to ask the people in the audience that do oppose
the particular site selected to please stand so that you
can get a good idea and judge how many there are here.
(Those who opposed the site stood.)
MR. CLAUSON: Any of those people who do oppose the
construction of a hospital building or a hospital in the
City as opposed from merely opposing the site, please raise
your hands.
(There was no showing of bands.)
MR. CLAUSON: Members of the Counni l _ T thi nir thArA
has been demonstrated a very basic error and flaw in this
application by their being a lack of a forcible, detailed
complete presentation of the proponents' case, from several
aspects. This property is now zoned as residence agricul
If this Council is to act within its authority and grant
this Unclassified Use Permit, it must find a showing of
Public convenience and necessity and public welfare as
demanding and justifying this application. I believe that
the application is basically premature, and not well taken
for the following reasons:
There has not been a showing to this Council, and I do
not believe there was shown to the Planning Commission,
things which I will elaborate as follows in a moment. I do
believe that under your own rules and the ordinance under
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which we are operating, this Council should hear new
evidence; this should be a new hearing and a complete
original case should be presented to you; but basically I
believe this application is premature and notwell taken for
the reason there has not been shown to you what type of
organization will be used to construct and maintain and
operate this hospital. Now, I do not suggest that this
constitutes a legal bar to your proceeding and granting this
application, but it does go to the questions of a showing
of public convenience and necessity and public welfare.
For instance, we could well find after this application was
granted that a private profit making corporation was used
to build the hospital or a non-profit corporation and, of
course, there are other alternatives, such as a district
hospital operated under the laws of the State of California.
I feel, and those whom I represent feel that in this
case the Board of Directors of the several different
corporate entities should be the ones that have tie decision
as to the location and site of the building, and also should
control and make the decision with regard to the type of
hospital to be constructed in this City.
Also, there has been utterly no showing here of what
type of financing will be used to construct a hospital.
Again I am not opposing a hospital, but I think public
convenience and necessity and public welfare demand that you
have an understanding of what means will be used to build
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this hospital.
Again, whether it be completely private financing,
whether the City of West Covina be called upon to develop
and contribute yearly to the support of this hospital,
whether there be State and Federal funds enlisted for this
support, and if so, what are the chances of their obtaining
the same.
Another question relates to the staff, whether it be
open to all licensed practitioners or whether it be a
closed staff, open to friends and a select group which will
be used for the benefit primarily of the doctors in control.
We need good public service hospitals in this community,
but there has been no showing made here yet that this is
the type of hospital or organization that would operate and
run a hospital to be built on this site, with your granting
this application.
Another problem is whether the hospital be open to all
racial ethnic groups. I submit to you unless there has been
and is a showing that this will be a hospital operated for
the public benefit, that there is not the required public
convenience and necessity or public welfare.
Now, while we, and please understand us, we do not
oppose additional hospital facilities; we do not believe
that there has been an adequate showing; certainly not here,
nor do we believe there was an adequate showing in the
Planning Commission that there is a need for a hospital of
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this size and magnitude which would justify the use of a
residence agriculture site, which actually, by virtue of the
surrounding property should be zoned Residence 1, because
the neighborhood lots are 50 by 100 foot lots.
I now relinquish five minutes time to Mr. Frank Aiello.
MR. FRANK AIEILO: Honorable Mayor Brown, gentlemen of
the Council: I have a few pamphlets here that I would like
to distribute first.
MAYOR BROWN: Give your name and address, please.
MR. AIEITO: Frank Aiello, A-i-e-1-1-o, a good Irish
name. I live at 1013 West Cameron. The paper clips are
located so that you can turn to the spot I wish you to turn
to. May I have the board, please?
I don't profess to be a school teacher, but this is
going to be some demonstration of what we have here as a
matter of statistics.
Now, this represents the proposed beds of the already
existing hospitals. I will go into that first, gentlemen.
We have first of all a Glendora Hospital within this 82 R
zone, which is zoned so that it is popular in our area.
The Glendora Hospital -- their proposed beds that are now
under construction, 76.
The Inter -Community Hospital, which we all know of,
98 beds, proposed.
The West Covina Hospital, which a lot of us forgot,
77 beds.
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The Hartland Hospital, 20 beds.
And the Lark Ellen, 57 beds, making a total of 328 beds.
Now, gentlemen, if you will kindly turn to the pamphlet
we have here. I don't know if you fellows follow the
newspaper at all, the gentlemen of the press who saidthat
the group under Dr. Mosher was going to be number one priori
for this area. If you will look at that red line there, it
shows you Covina, 82-R, estimated population, July 1, 1955,
and this is for the fiscal period of '56 to '57, June 30,
1956. The estimated population is 159,600, andthere you
will see under priority position 17 percent. That is a
long ways from number one priority inthis area.
I would like to show you the difference between the
total number" of beds needed and the total beds in this area
is 304, which is needed for this area, and this is the
proposed 328 for this area.
The reason I bring these figures out to you people is
that we would like to see this area give these folks full
support. They need your support. But this is where the
support should be, right here (indicating). Now, when the
new fiscal period comes up, the priority for this area will
get smaller. What I mean by that is instead of going up to
number one position, we will go down because this here
hospital (indicating), 76 beds, the West Covina Hospital of
77 beds, will bring your percentage in a smaller grouping
away from number one, and not only that, in our
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Inter -Community Hospital is already taking care of the
necessary priority for this area. They are getting their
aid, one-third from the Federal Government and one-third
from the State and their possible one-third from the
community.
Now, legs go into the cost of the hospital, ladies
and gentlemen, and the Council. The cost of a hospital
is something that I never realized because I am in business
for myself, selling citrus for one thing, and that is far
from selling beds. But you get into these things once in
awhile, I guess. Now, I would like to show you these
figures represent three different denominations, and I
contacted each one of them. There are three of them. I
am not going to mention them. They do not wish to be named
because of political reasons. Now, a 250-bed hospital
under one denomination, the cost of operation for 1956 was
$2,893,450.00. Another denomination said the cost of
(operation for a hospital would be $40.00 per day per
hospital bed, which comes close to $3,000,000.00 for the
cost of operation of a hospital in one year. Now, to
build a hospital, it costs $5,000,000.00 to build such a
hospital. $5,0002000.00. You know that is quite a sum,
because undertbe Hill -Burton Act, which is put out by the
State, this particular pamphlet -- any of you can gettbis
from the Department of Public Health, one -:third is going to
come from you people and one-third comes from the State,
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and one-third from the Federal Government. Now, there is
an example of figures.. Our question, as a lawyer brought
out, is where is this financing coming from? We would like
to know.
Now, more about priority and this number one business.
If you gentlemen will recognize,there is a little town
called Porterville, California -- it is a great place for
navel oranges -- you will notice they are number six.
You can contact their representative up there and they will
tell you that Sierra View District Hospital Number 6 has
waited three years for their priority forthat area.. They
still haven't got it. So an application by Mr. Ching and
his cohorts does not indicate that this area will get a
priority. So therefore the financing through State and
Federal aid might be a little difficult.
So there are other possibilities, private financing,
which is kind of hard to believe because $5,000,000.00 is
!a big sum. I think I remember the newspaper stating as
Dr. Mosher quotes that the financing could come from the
business men in West Covina. If that was the case, this
would be a fabulous hospital instead of very inadequate
facilities there, and all of the money should be concentrated
in the hospital. There is where the concentration should
be (indicating). Let's look at the figures. Inter -
Community Hospital -- the Inter -Community Hospital has
proposed through their contributions, through the State
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contributions; and through the Federal contributions, they
have maintained a possibility of 98 beds. This is where the
money ought to go. I,think it is very important, folks,
accredited hospital means that you are a well -staffed
hospital, that you have all of these doctors, that you have
all of the necessary doctors, that you have registered
nurses and such, and in this area we do not have that,
because the administration.of the hospital, it is necessary
for these administrators to hire men, and we can get them
in this area, but you have to hire them. That -makes an
accredited hospital. -The Inter -Community Hospital at the
present time is an accredited hospital. Now, it givesthese
other five hospitals the opportunity to becom accredited,
but they are growing just like the area is growing, and the
time will come when they will become just as accredited.
There are five hospitals in this area within 30 minutes for
anyone to get to. Let me tell you, as far as the point made
by the gentleman from the Means Hospital, that we need more
hospitals in the area so that he won't have to go so far,
well, I think that the distance to the Inter -Community
,spital from,his particular spot is not as far as one might
lieve. Every one of these hospitals are close. There is
e thing that we must remember. If your wife likes zuch
id such a doctor, she is not going to go to'this hospital
this one or this one or this one. She is going to go to
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the hospital she desires, and don't forget that. No matter
what hospital it is, if it is in the Tules, she will go
there if she wants to.
I think that is all I have to say.
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MR. CIAUSON: Members of the Counc
statement. This is relevant material and we presented
this evidence to you for the purpose of your again judging
and determining the public convenience and necessity and
public welfare 7lat would be served by granting or denying
this application. We are not opposing a hospital. We are
sincerely interested in seeing adequate demands met,
sufficient hospital beds for this area, but it is important
that we realize what facilities are now available when we
consider changing a primarily residential area into one of
a commercial and sub -commercial construction and use.
Now, our primary interest here is to oppose the
selection and use of this particular parcel of ground for
a hospital. We again submit to youthat there has been no
showing other than the resolution of the Planning Commission
that this site or parcel is suitable. The ordinance under
which the application is made states with reference to
Unclassified Use Permits that all of the following, and
hospitals are included among the following, are declared
to be uses possessing characteristics of such unique and
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special form as to make impractical there being included
automatically in any classes of use as set forth in the
various zones herein defined, and the authority for the
location and operation thereof shall be subject to review
and the issuance of unclassified use permits, provided
unclassified use permits may not be granted for use in a
zone from which it is specifically excluded.
The basic plan of our master zoning ordinance provides
that there are and recognizes that there are uses which we
could not pre -determine in advance that would be suitable
for any one type of category, zoned category. Hospitals
are one of those. They must be considered on their special
unique factors and the circumstances in each case. It is
appropriate that this council consider this application,
but this council must also recognize that because the
ordinance provides that a hospital should be specifically
excluded from R-1 and R-2 zones, that it would be
inappropriate in this instance to grant this application,
because of the nature of the parcel involved and the
surrounding neighborhood is not one which is truly of
residence agriculture in its nature. It was certainly at
the time the master plan was passed, but in 1957 the
surrounding property has been changed to one which by all
intents and purposes is truly residence 1. It is of the
finest type of property in the City of West Covina. you
are endangering a continued growth of fine, middle priced
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and higher priced homes in this area when you consider
granting this application. Residence agriculture as defined
in the ordinance and set forth in the category contemplates
the use of small acreages for residence and farm uses and
provides for outbuildings appropriate thereto, such as
barns, cattle sheds, and other things, garages for farm
equipment and cars, and towers and other things that are
ordinarily and usually found in connection with farms.
The Cinderella Homes and the Sunset Manor Homes are dual
homes. All of the homes surrounding this parcel are of a
different nature. Their lots are'small, 65 by 100 feet.
We find complete absence of farming machinery or farming
uses being made there. Your only experience will indicate,
and certainly it is true that if this application is
permitted, that the only and necessary tendency will be
for this entire surrounding.area to change.
Now, as Mr. Aiello pointed out, if this was a serious
emergency, if there were no hospital facilities available,
public convenience and necessity and public welfare might
demand the granting of this application, but in view of the
lexisting hospital facilities and those proposed, we must
determine afresh and in view of that, what is the necessity
and.convenience, and also we must determine whether or not
the convenience and necessity exists on the basis of whether
or not there are other more suitable or equally suitable
parcels of land available within this hospital area, and
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available within the City of West Covina, which can be used
and which are now zoned properly for hospital uses.
Particularly are there other sites available for commercial
uses which could be used and purchased at a reasonable price
for a hospital.
I would like to relinquish four or five minutes to
Mr. Lee Moniky, who is a realtor in business in this town,
who has made an examination of the area for this purpose.
Mr. Moniky has not been sworn.
MAYOR BROWN: Are you testifying under oath or
expressing.an opinion?
MR. MONIKY: I was considered to be expressing an
opinion. If that is necessary -- if it is necessary to
take the oath, I will be glad to take it.
MAYOR BROWN: I think you had better take the oath.
(Mr. Moniky was duly sworn.)
MR. LEE MONIKY: I am not a realtor; I am a licensed
real estate broker. There is a difference. I have offices
located at 608 South Sunset Avenue in West Covina, and I
reside at 1307 East Herring Avenue in West Covina. I have
been a resident of this area for eight years. I have worked
in the real estate business in this area for nine years,
which makes me kind of a pioneer resident. I have cast
about at the request of the opponents of this plan to see if
there are other items, other areas that might be more
acceptable as a hospital site.
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Now, I think that one premise that we should all agree
on is that there is a certain amount of hazard, there is a
certain amount of objection in a residence neighborhood to
any public building, whether it be a City Hall or a
hospital; there is a certain amount of objection to it.
Now, I find in the City other areas where there are not
residences, or there are not residences around four sides
of the area. I find various acreage along the Walnut
Street wash, some on the north side, some on the south
side, and the wash, of course., would be a natural barrier
or a buffer to protect at least a part of the people around
the hospital.
Now, any one of those areas, I feel, would be acceptable
or usable as a hospital site and would not encroach on
residence areas on four sides. Now, maybe it would only
be three sides, but I think that is something that we have
to work out the best we can in our City. There are those
areas where there are big acreages available, where you and
the Planning Commission could set up a buffer, a proper
buffer zone around the hospital site to protect the
residential area.
Now, I have other listings. I have land for sale
in other areas within a 15 minute radius that are completely
isolated, that a person could work out the same type.of
plan there. I don't think it is essential that we have
six hospitals, all within five minutes of each other. I
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can't see thatthat is essential. Now, I feel that the
proponents of this site have acted on their own convenience.
They simply own this piece of land and they feel it is
convenient, because they own it, not because it is ideal.
people around it, nor the public welfare sufficiently, or
they would have searched out and found another site that
is available in the immediate area.
Thank you very much.
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MR. CLAUSON: If it please the Council, the Planning
Commission's findings state that in their opinion the
parcel is ideally suited for a hospital. However, we questi
whether or not the Planning Commission has taken into
consideration the projected effect of this hospital.
Certainly 15 acres is enough ground on which to build a
hospital unit and to provide adequate parking. However,
there is necessarily followed certainly related businesses
which tend to and which are most efficiently grouped close
to a hospital, pharmacies, orthopedic shops, beauty parlors,
restaurants, service stations. You find a great many
people, commercial business people, will want to locate as
close to this hospital as they can. Already there have
been a number of people who live in this adjacent area
indicate that they are in favor of this zone application
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because they would be able to turn their own property at
a profit. They feel it would be impossible over a period
of a few years for this County to resist further zoning
changes in this neighborhood because of the detriment tothe
area for residence purposes.
Now, it is partly because of the fact that those who
tend naturally to attract related businesses that the trend
in hospital construction is to large, undeveloped, non-
residence areas.
I would like to relinquish to Mr. Tom Getties for a
few minutes to.discuss other hospitals that are being
constructed in. this .end of the Valley.
MR. THOMAS GETTIES: I am Thomas Getties, 733
California Avenue. I would first like to express my deep
gratitude for being able to be here tonight as a citizen of
the United States and as a citizen of West Covina.
Today is a milestone in my life in a way. Twelve
years ago tonight I personally was standing on the beaches
of Okinawa fighting for what I believed in. Tonight I am
on another beach fighting for what I believe in. That is
to raise my family in a residential area. That is what I
moved here for.
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Now, I would like to say I am not against hospitals.
I am against the site. Me and my family, I was born and
raised here, and we have sure seen a lot of Southern
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California, more than I have seen since.I was born, just
due to the fact that I wanted to find out for myself if I
was really fighting for what is right, and I believe I
found out quite a few interesting facts on this particular
item. I have been in Whittier, Glendora, and saw both of
their sites. They are both in a non-residential area.
The Glendora Hospital is on Highway 66, right nextdoor to
a doctor's office and across the street to the proposed
Shopping Bag Food Store, ttao gas stations, and a grocery
store right adjacent to this property. There are no houses,
no kids, just a lot of people going 200 miles an hour.
The most of you will agree that Arcadia is far more
saturated than this town. They have seen fit for a hospital,
and they have built their Arcadia Methodist Hospital right
nextdoor to their City Hall. It is right across the street
for the poor people who have heart failures from Santa Anita.
The Hartman Hospital is not close to houses, but there we
have a case in which the individual has a right to stand
up on his own two feet and see things and say to himself,
"I want to buy here or I don't want to buy here." In this
particular instance on this hospital site, a person has
moved here the right to decide. Theoretically here he has
been told that you are going to like it and that is it.
You either say you are going somewhere else or not. My
three children were born in the Glendale Sanitarium and
Hospital. That is not in the residential area. The French
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Hospital in Los Angeles is right nextdoor to Chinese Town.
That is not in a residential area. Then there is the Lark
Ellen Hospital. There is nothing around it on three sides.
Across the street is the church and three residence areas,
but that is all. I went clear out to Fontana. The Kaiser
Hospital in Fontana is not in a residential area. I saw
the Redlands Community Hospital. It is two miles out from
the center of town, in the middle of nowhere. St. Luke's
Hospital in Pasadena, which has been constructed and been
going for quite a number of years is in a sense in a
residential area, but there is not children or houses
right abutting the property. Las Companas Hospital in
Compton is not in.a residential area. My mother passed
away there; I know. The San Diego Hospital, the San Diego
General Hospital is not in the center of the town. It is
.on the outskirts, Highway 395. Anybody can see that.
Mount Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles is not in a residential
area. St. Francis Hospital in South Gate is not in a
residential area. The California Hospital in Los Angeles
is not in a residential area, and the Good Samaritan
Hospital in Los Angeles is not in a residential area.
There was a proposed hospital from Monrovia which was voted
down by the people by popular vote just due to the fact
that it was too close to a residential area.
I agree, I think everything else will agree that your
foresight has been good in planning your schools, your
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parks, your police force is continually going; your
commercial zoning in a sense today is probably a little
ahead of time, but it is good. I can't see why we have to
stop now after all of these, after all of this planning and
say we forgot about a hospital.
Before I close, I would like to say that at 3:00
o'clock this afternoon my wife had to go to a hospital.
She is lying up there now in the Inter -Community Hospital.
I talked to her tonight. She wants to take care of our
kids, and we don't want to see them jeopardized. I have
got kids that want to ride the streets with a bike.
They don't do it on California Avenue. There are too 1pany
cars going too fast. It is a congested area.
Thank you very much. (Applause.)
MR. CLAUSON: Our time is very short. I would like
to relinquish to Mr. Hank Leslie, an employee of the
County Assessor's Office, who will testify as to his own
opinion, based on his experience working in that office, as
to the effect upon land values and the tax:basis of the
City of West Covina.
MR. HENRY T. LESLIE: I live at 727 South California
Since I am employed by a County, by Los Angeles County,
and have over five years experience in the field as an
appraiser, I am speaking tonight in my own personal capacity
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as a home owner in West Covina. I do not profess to
represent nor speak for the County Assessor or any other
Government, State, or Municipal Agency. It has been
indicated to me that records of land valuation in the Los
Angeles County Assessor's Office show that hospitals have
an adverse and a depressing effect upon adjoining residence
properties. These records incidentally are also open
and available to the public for inspection and perusal,
and even transcription.
Further, appraisers of real property, regardless by
whom employed, will all agree that a hospital has an
adverse effect on residence property valuation.
It has been called to my attention that many use a
method whereby at least ten percent is used for a
depreciation factor on the affected land values and then
take into consideration and weigh all other adverse factors
which have been created by zone changes. Due to the
limited time, I am pressed to cut this short, and I only
strongly request that the honorable members of the Council
give us small home owners a favorable decision.
I thank you. (Applause.)
MR. CLAUSON: I would like to relinquish some time to
Mr. Charles Kranz.
MR. CHARLES KRANZ: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council:
My name is Charles Kranz. I live at 667 California Street
in West Covina. I have lived here for many, many years.
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proximity of the proposed hospital site. I have become
acquainted with many of these young people. They are young
people, mostly veterans who have moved into this particular
area with the idea in mind of raising their families in a
truly and strictly residential area. Many of those people
believed at the time they moved into this area they were
moving into an area which is strictly residential.
I submit to the members of the Council that the City
of West Covina. would be breaking faith with these young
people who came into this area with that idea in mind.
I would like to submit to this Council this fact, too,
that as gentlemen of the Council, you represent not only
all of the City of West Covina, but you represent the 600
people who signed these petitions. You represent their
welfare and certainly you, as their representatives, must
bear that in mind. 'Certainly it is your responsibility as
representatives of the people in this area to exhaust every
possibility in the placement of a hospital if one is needed.
If you are convinced that a hospital, an additional hospital
facility is needed, then representing all of the people in
.this area, you should try and exhaust every resource to see
that that hospital is placed in an area where it won't do
the seri.ou.s damage it would do to these 600 people who
>igned the -se petitions.
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I just want to submit, gentlemen, that you remember
that you represent.all of the people in the City and that
you do everything within your power to see that no one is
hurt when a hospital site is -finally selected, and there
have been some suggestions made along that line here tonight.
(Applause.)
MR:: CIAUSON: I would like to relinquish some time now
to Jay Bell, who has been the chairman of this committee
opposing this Unclassified Use Permit 18.
MR. JAY FELT: Members of the City Council: For the
past few months it has been my privilege to organize and be
chairman of this particular group opposing this hospital
site. I would like to say briefly that I have met a lot of
wonderful people, and I have enjoyed working with them, not
only our own people that have gone along with us, but some
of the proponents. They are all good people.
First of all, I would like to give you briefly some
other facts, and this is concerning the amount of cases
in a hospital of this kind. Emergency cases on an annual
basis is 7000; ordinary cases is 15,000; maternity cases,
3000. We are a pretty prolific bunch. Out -patients,
approximately 10,.000. This is a total of 35,000 patients
annually entering and leaving a hospital of this size.
This means that we have in the order of 100 people leaving
and entering this hospital daily in this particular area.
This brings up my point, or my section of the ball
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that I was supposed to carry, and that is the general effect
on the area and traffic. We have now approximately 600 cars
moving by our homes during the daylight hours. Due to the
one particular situation, that we aren't coupled up
directly with Vincent -- I understand ultimately that will
go on to Glendora, but with the hospital there, that will
be increased -- there will be an increase of approximately
250 cars per day twice daily, due to the visiting hours in
this area.
The gentleman said -- I believe it was Mr. Means that
said that sirens don't affect the area materially. We could
cut them off. Sirens don't ran over our children. There
are approximately 300 children in this area, playing, and
we yet have to receive sidewalks where our children can play.
We certainly hope that this matter will be taken into
consideration.
California Avenue as it now exists is 52 feet wide.
According to Mr. Gerschler's research, there will be no
widening of California Avenue which further demonstrates
that this will become an added congested area rather than
an alleviation of the problem in the area. We have not
the land rights to do this.
We have available C-1 property in our City that probably
would be available for use. Let's use up this particular
property, then seek out other areas in which to put our
commerce and our hospitals.
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I have a note here on -- my chain of thought broke a
minute, but we in the City of West Covina, and I am sure all
of you consider our city as being one of unity and one of
beautiful homes -- that has been remarked on time and time
again to the point where we take it for granted. A hospital
in this area would break up this artistry.
The thing that a group of citizens is looking for is to
see that as a whole we do not continue this type of thing
within the City, that we maintain a City essentially of
residences, rather than a broken up confusion of an
integrated -- not necessarily industrial, but commercial
zones and these hospitals.
Mind you, we are not against the hospital at all. I
was just getting to a point that our attorney brought out
very forcefully. In all the meetings that I have attended,
and there have been considerable within the last few months
on this particular project in general, the public has
expressed to you, and also to the Planning Commission, that
they do notwant business or professional buildings integrated
into our residences. Also, during the meeting of the City
Council, I believe two meetings previous to this -- I can't
recall the date -- there was some discussion on a proposed
multiple dwelling unit of two stories in height. Of course,
people objected to this. Think for a moment, four stories.
I have.got to live across from that, and some total of
about 55 residences directly will have to do that,
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As far as covering these up with shrubbery or
landscaping, believe you me, it takes a lot of time to
cover up a four story building with a batch of trees.
I don't believe I have anything else to say. We
certainly appreciate the opportunity that we have of living
in this town.
Thank you.
M& CLAUSON: If it please the Council, I know we have
exhausted our 45 minutes.
Mr. Walter McKay has asked me if there was time if he
could say a few words, and I would like the opportunity to
summarize our case.
Mft. WALTER McKAY: Gentlemen, I just wanted to say --
MAYOR BROWN: Your name and address?
MR. McKAY: My name is Walter B. McKay, 893 Oak Park
Place, West Covina.
I just wanted to say, gentlemen, that I think West
Covina is a very nice town, and there are beautiful homes.
I was hoping that that area down in there would stay that way,
I have five children. I hope to have many more. They
were all.born down at St. Vincent's Hospital, one of them
just a year ago. We went to St. Vincent's, and we will
(continue going down there. I hope that for the sake of my
children, because who knows how many we will lose if this
goesihrough and the whole area changes -- I kind of look
ahead and see first a hospital, not only that, but what is
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to follow it. I see apartment houses in the immediate area.
I live within 300 yards of this area, and I like to have my
kids go to school and to think that they.are going to get
.there and not be worried all the time that they won't.
West Covina is the City of beautiful homes, and I believe
if a hospital goes in here, you can kind of strike this
little area of beautiful homes, because I don't think in the
future that they will be that way.
Thank you.
MR, CIAUSON: If it please the Council, I want to
express the appreciation of the opponents for the opportunity
you have given to us to present our case to you, and I am
certain.that all of them join me in expressing to you their
understanding of the responsibility which you bear in
determining this and similar cases that come before you.
We want you to be convinced also that we have no thoughts
of raising any technical arguments or contesting your
jurisdiction or anything else that may constitute a flaw in
these proceedings, but we would request your serious
consideration. of our case and in very brief recount, may
I call to mind again the fact that in our opinion, that this
application is premature, that there has been no showing to
you of an ability to build, operate and maintain this
hospital in a way that would be for.,the benefit of the public
and not for the benefit of the sponsoring group. This
requires a well integrated staff, adequately financed,
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and a hospital open to all racial and ethnic groups. I
repeat again that public convenience and necessity must be
determined by neighing several factors, not only a need
which in truth and in fact is R-1 in nature and under your
ordinances is specifically excluded from the granting of a
hospital use permit, and determination also of whether or
not for the City of West Covina it would be better and more
proper to require any hospital group to build within a
commercial zone when 'such zones and parcels of land are
available.
I believe that Mr. Monikyfs statement that this was
for the convenience of the applicants is certainly true.
I believe it has been demonstrated that this application
if granted and the construction of a hospital would seriously
impair the. value of the- surrounding neighborhood and property
for residential purposes. I believe that the zoning
commission has so found in their own resolution and findings.
They have stated that an overriding public convenience and
necessity and public welfare specifies this, but we question
and ask you if that really'is true and can you men find on
the basis of the testimony and evidence that has been
.presented to you here tonight that there is such an
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overriding necessity asto require the application be granted
for this particular parcel.
The City of West Covina has been a city built
according to the plan and order, and it is the feeling of
the group opposing that this would be a serious breach,
not in a legal sense, but a serious breach of the master
plan of the City of West Covina.
(Applause.)
MAYOR BROWN: We will have a five minute recess, then
the proponents will have time for rebuttal.
(Recess had.)
MAYOR BROWN: The meeting will come to order.
If the proponents wish any rebuttal, now is the time to
present your case in rebuttal.
MR. BRAIDER: Our opposition, in not wanting the
hospital., said something about the people right close would
benefit. That couldn't be true. After the assessor sees
it, the property next to the hospital goes down; therefore,
we would not have any advantage by them coming in.
One man here was very concerned about the price and
how much it was going to cost us. Now, that is true. We
are all concerned about that, but our lawyer friend came up
and he said they were not opposed to the hospital if we can
get it some other place, in some other area. Now, I don't
know whether it would make any difference if we get the
hospital close to someone else's home as long as it is good
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for the area. He says they have 600 signers. That may be
true. I didn't check, but there is supposed to be
registered with the Planning Board within 300 feet all of
the signers for the hospital. I don't know how far these
here other 600 are away, but it would be interesting to
know. Also, I can't talk maybe like the other fellows can,
because I am a common worker. I would say this, I would
live on Cameron, on Service, on Glendora, or on California,
and I would vote for the hospital to go in because I think
it is something the area needs.
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MR. DWEY HA.RNISH: There is just one phase of the
argument that I would like to question, and that is that
which concerns some of the figures that.were put on the
blackboard. The gentleman who put the figures on the
blackboard used a booklet issued by the Board of Health
which happenstp be the same booklet that we used in preparing
our report to the owners of the property. However, there
seems to be a greater variance regarding the way we read
the figures and the way he read them. I would just like to
ask Mr. John Preston, the Administrator of the Inter -
Community Hospital at Covina, if he would as an expert in
the hospital field and very familiar with the area, if he
could straighten this out and perhaps clarify for our benefit
(some of the figures regarding the needs and the existing
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in which this and the Inter -Community Hospital would fall
at the present time. Thank you.
A EK ER: Could you have all of these different people
re -state their names as they come up to the microphone?
.MR. HkRNISH: I am .Dewey Harnish, an architect from
MR. JOHN P. PRESTON: I am John P. Preston. My
residence is at.526 Montezuma, West Covina. I was rather
Interested in some of the population figures and some of
the hospital bed figures that were presented by one of the
earlier speakers. Having gone through the Inter -Community
Hospital, the fight for Federal and State money to help
build additional hospital facilities, I have been very close
to this picture for quite a long time. The figures that
were quoted were quoted as of July 12 1955, with the report
upon which the allocations were made last July 1st, or the
allocations for 11 projects that would receive help at
that time. Population, as I recall, was based on the
figure of 159,600 people. Our priority position in the
82-R area at that time was 17 on the priority position.
With 11 projects receiving help and an increase in
population from July 1, 1955, to October 31 of 1956, and
according to the Regional Planning Commission's population
figures were 205,000 people -- now, this is based upon an
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actively operating. The Inter -Community Hospital with a
bed census of 123 beds with an approved 98 bed addition,
the Lark Ellen Hospital with 43 beds, the Hartland Hospital
with 31 beds,-- I don't know of the existence of a West
Covina Hospital with 77 beds. I.do not; I know that there
is under construction at the present time a hospital in
Glendora which is, according to the papers,, it is going to
be 76 beds; but even with the addition of the beds in
Glendora,, we are still short some 343 hospital beds in this
area at the present time,
There is necessary,. according to the population figures
and figures upon the basis of three beds per thousand, the
need for 788 hospital beds within this area at the present
time.
Thank you very much.
MAYOR BROWN: Any further rebuttal?
MR,. DALE RICHARDSON: I am Dale Richardson and live at
1008 West Cameron. I sometimes wonder why I am doing this.
It seems that we have -- I want to congratulate the opponents
on having a well organized group. Myself, I started off
when this hospital was proposed. I said to myself, "Well,
that sounds like a good idea." Then I heard people -around
the neighborhood saying no, yes, so I decided to look into it
I am not a lawyer or anything else. All I know is that we
need a hospital in this area and we need it now.- These
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good constructive facts. If they had worked just as hard
to help some of these other hospitals or worked for this
site, we might have something.done, but to argue about
something we need, we don't need it ten years from now;
we need it now. The financing has nothing to do with this
argument whatever; the financing is something that will be
worked out if this zoning is passed. I think that you
gentleman realize that if we get the zoning, we will worry
about the financing. That is what we are here for.
We have a plot of ground that is offered. If I owned
a plot of ground, I doubt that I would want to sell it or
I.get it zoned for a hospital. I really doubt that financing
is an issue.
So far as the*talk about zoning R-1 residence, when I
was in the service, I lived near a hospital, and it.was
right in the middle of a residential area. I always thought
until tonight that it was a prestige to live near a hospital.
I thought it was something for the community to be proud of.
As far as any kids being run over, I havetw o kids, two
children, and one on the way. I am not worried about them.
When I moved on my street, I realized that West Covina is
going to grow. You can look on the map and realize that we
are one of the largest in the area, one of the largest areas
in the Valley, and it is going to keep on growing. If we
want to be farmers, if we want to move out that way, let's
move. If I don't like where I am living, I am not saying
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that anybody should, and it is no reason -- we are here to
express our views. I think they have got some good arguments
for and some good against, but I still say that the Council
tonight has to decide whether we need a hospital and when we
are going to get it.
This is a plot of ground available, and all of the
arguments to me are nil. Do we need it? Is it available?
And is this piece of ground proper? I say it is.
MAYOR BROWN: Any further rebuttal?
MR. M. C. IARABEE: I live at 2017 East Cortez. It
seems.to me the speakers I have been hearing have been saying
how a hospital is going to endanger the lives of their
children. If I had had a hospital closer one time, I would
have saved one of my children, but I was just wondering this,
the Lark Ellen Hospital since that is way out in the sticks,
and why do they put a schoolhouse next to it? Why has.
Covina got a park right close to theirs? I can't see how
the hospital can endanger the lives of our children, and
I have only got nine.
MAYOR BROWN: Is there any further rebuttal?
N1R. RAYMOND E. FRYE: I am Raymond E. Frye at 1021
South Lark Ellen, West Covina. Fellow citizens, with respect
to this hospital, I have listened very attentively, so far,
to both sides of the issue. I have sat on committees many
times, and I am mindful of the objections and mindful of
the seemingly, shall we say, detriments, or defacing of
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the property adjacent. I firmly believe that a hospital
is no more defacing or detrimental to property than a
school, which as you may know, the Board of Education, if
they want to take a piece of property, they do so. Now,
this honorable.body, fellow citizens, are not taking a
piece of property. I believe they are going to act wisely.
They are goingtD be governed by the best interests of this
beautiful city of ours. While I have been a citizen here
just a short while, let us set up a city that our children
to come can say that we had the foresight enough to plan a
city, and we should have a hospital right in the City, near
the center and centrally located, rather than in far distant
outlying areas of the City of West Covina. I assure you
that this honorable body has divided this city with
outstanding supervision, and I believe that they will
continue to do so.
Thank you.
MAYOR BROWN: Any further rebuttal?
MR. AL GEBHART: I live at 334 North Leland Avenue,
West Covina. Mr. Mayor, Honorable Council, and fellow
citizens: I feel this area needs a hospital. There is no
vacant land immediately adjacent to my home. However,
obviously these gentlemen who own this property want to bring
to this community something we need. I have noted very
carefully and listened quite attentively to those opposing
it. That seems to be the basic issue. I believe the site
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is a good one. It is centrally located. They suggest other
areas. The Walnut Creek wash with a buffer. For one side
they would be perfectly willing, if this site were there, so
I feel that the Planning Commission, the'Council's issue
is, do we need a hospital; are these gentlemen prepared and
willing to carry out the financing programs, and to build
this which we need. I have observed hospitals in other areas
I have noted them to be architecturally attractive. The
grounds are well kept. Definitely they are not a detriment
either in looks or in traffic hazard, as it would appear to me
So I feel that the basic issue that is before this body is
do we need a hospital. And I feel we do.
(Applause.)
MAYOR BROWN: Any further rebuttal? Incidentally, on
this rebuttal, you will have until 10:00. Is there any
further rebuttal?. If not, I declare the public hearing
closed.
MR. FLOTTEN: Mr. Mayor, we have certain communications
that should be read into the record since the hearing
before the Planning Commission. As of this evening, we
have received 1180 cards who favor this hospital. I will
read one of these cards so you will know what they say.
"Gentlemen: As a citizen of West Covina, I feel the
need is apparent for more hospital facilities within our
own community. I strongly support the West Covina Planning
Commission's recommendation which approved Dr. Ching's
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application for a hospital. Like approval by our City
Council will be acknowledgment of their foresight and vision
of good, long range community planning which will serve the
majority of the community."
The name is Louis F. Madott, Jr., 826 South Azusa
Avenue, West Covina.
We have 1180 of these postcards as of now.
There is a petition which we have received since the
Planning Commission's hearing which contains 26 names.
They are not duplications.
Of the original 614 names that appeared on the original
petition opposing this hospital, we have received 12 letters
from people who wish their names to be taken from the
petition. There are a number of letters and cars which the
Planning Commissioner, Mr. Gerschler has, which should be
read into the record.
MR. MA.LCOLM GERSCHLER: Mr. Mayor, the petition signed
by some 600 property owners bears the following statement.
It is addressed to the honorable members of the City Council
of the City of West Covina:
"Gentlemen: We, the undersigned, jointly protest the
proposed hospital site for the following reasons:
"l. Increased traffic hazards for children living in
the area, traffic congestion and associated noises disturbing
the entire residential area within one-half mile radius.
Reduction of property values in the surrounding area."
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In opposition there are several cards and letters.
Some of these are duplications, and I will not try to
repeat where they carry the same text.
This is addressed to the Council on March 27th.
"Gentlemen of the Council: Please do not approve the
re -zoning of the -area proposed for the planned hospital.
Such spot zoning would be detrimental to the City. A
hospital located in the community, in the County strip,
would be much more beneficial to the area. Sincerely,
Robert K. Jones, 702 East Herring Avenue, West Covina."
This is from Mrs. W. D. Van Pelton.
"I wish to protest the acceptance of a zone variance
in favor of the proposed Community Hospital site as a
resident of the area adjoining or near this site.
.Sincerely, Mrs. W. D. Van Pelton."
MAYOR BROWN: Before you proceed, if that is the
complete group of letters that you have marked on the map,
I do not believe it is necessary to read them. They have
all practically the same content in them. I believe all
of the Council received practically the same group of letters
I think it would be proper just to file them as being in
favor or opposed.
MR. GERSCHLER: Those are included in the summary that
we just gave you.
MAYOR BROWN: Thank you.
Do you havethat map, Malcolm?
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MR. MRSCHLER: Yes, I do.
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MR. GERSCHLER: Mr. Mayor, on this map is indicated
the residences of each of the signatories of both the
protests and the.supporting petitions and cards. The area
within the immediate vicinity of the hospital will show you
a larger scale map since the number of signers are more
concentrated.' The red dots on this map indicate those
speaking in favor and the green dots represent those
speaking in opposition.
MAYOR BROWN: Do.you want to hold that a minute?
Some of the councilmen want to look at it.
MR. GERSCHLER: Mr. Mayor, this map represents those
properties within approximately one -quarter to one-half mile
of the hospital site. This has been produced on larger
scale because of the closeness of the properties. The red
dots represent those speaking in favor and the green
represents those speaking against the proposed site. The
properties within the confines of a 300-foot radius area
have 43 properties speaking in opposition, 42 speaking in
favor, and 9 have not been represented on either of the
petitions.
MAYOR BROWN: What is your question, gentlemen?
COUNCILMAN KAY: I had a question of some of the
testimony that was given by Mr. John Preston. He quoted
the increase in population in the..area for 1955. to October
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of 1956 as given in this report. What would that do for
our area on the basis of priority; what would be your
opinion as to what priority would be based upon -- as to
what our priority would be based upon according to that
population increase?
MRi PRESTON: In connection with the information I have
received from the Bureau of Hospitals, State Department of
Health, at the present moment it places us in number one
priority within the State of California.
COUNCILMAN KAY: Are funds presently being allocated
on that basis?
MR. PRESTON: Funds will be allocated the latter part
of July on that basis.
COUNCILMAN KAY: Can you tell me when the Hill -Burton
funds run out?
MR. PRESTON This is the last year for the Hill -Burton
funds, as the law presently exists.
COUNCILMAN KAY: Has a replacement law been enacted to
your knowledge?
MR. PRESTON: To my knowledge, no, it hasn't at the
present time.
COUNCILMAN KAY: You are speaking as of the end of the
fiscal year, July 1, 1957?
MR. PRESTON: That is correct, for the fiscal year of
'57-'58.
COUNCILMAN KAY: I say for the end of 158.
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MR. PRESTON: No, as of June 30, 1958.
COUNCILMAN KAY: That is the Hill -Burton Act?
MR', PRESTON: The appropriation was made as of June 30,
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COUNCILMAN KAY: I see.
MR. PRESTON: That is as of June 30, 1957, and June 30,
1 1958.
COUNCILMAN KAY: One further question. If you have
within your area a hospital such as Inter -Community Hospital
already receiving assistance under the Hill -Burton Act, can
you qualify other additional hospitals, as well, to receive
those funds if they come up with their,one-third of the
share?
Wi PRESTON: According to the present policies of the
allocation of the Board, two hospitals within the same
service area, which is in our case 82-R, can qualify for
funds, if applications are on file, providing that their
portion of -- in other words, the one-third portion of the
funds made availablethrough the public sources other than
taxes.
COUNCILMAN KAY: Is there a second hospital already
filing for these Hill -Burton funds within the 82-R District?
MR PRESTON: To my knowledge, no.
COUNCILMAN KAY: The Glendora Hospital is not in that
district?
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COUNCILMAN KAYi Mr. Preston, thank you.
One further question. Were those funds put up by a
community under the present act? Would they have to be
put up prior to July 1, 1957?
MR. PRESTON: No, they do not. They must be put up
within -- must be qualified within 120 days of the date of
the approval of the funds for that particular project. You
have to qualify within 120 days.
COUNCILMAN KAY: What is the latest date that you can
qualify under the present law?
MR. PRESTON: I think it is June lst.
COUNCILMAN KAY: Of this year?
MR. PRESTON: Of this year.
COUNCILMAN KAY: Thank you very much.
There is one thing I would like to say, if the statement
is in order.
MAYOR BROUTN: Proceed.
COUNCILMAN KAY: That is that I sat on this City Council
for three years, have seen some pretty important issues come
before the Council, but I have never seen an issue as
important as this where the proponents, or direct repre-
sentatives of the proponents, or the group that was backing
it would not stand up and testify, and believe me, I am
disgusted withthem.
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newspapers. Certain doctors' names have been used. The
applicants' names and other doctors in this community, yet
not one medical man stood up and testified; not one man
said what it would do for our community. I think the
proceedings before this council was very, very poor. If
we have to use, havefn decide the case on what we heard
here, I think they have lost their case by default.
There has been a lot of data presented to the Planning
Commission, there is paper work before us, but no one stood
up to give a presentation of what 82-R District means on
behalf of the proponents. No one stood up to say the need
for the additional beds in the area here.
Certainly I think if any group is sincerely interested
in putting this over, they have done a very poor job.
COUNCILMAN CRUMGEY: Apparently, from all of the
testimony here this evening, there is no doubt that everyone
believes that we should have a hospital some place in West
Covina. However, the proponents from the hospital, and
certainly we have to have a case, a valid case on which to
render a decision. We have no knowledge as to what the plans
are, when they desire to proceed, is it firm, is it ready
to go, what can we do about a hospital? We have nothing to
go on whatsoever. I will stop right there for the moment.
(Applause.)
COUNCI]UMA.N MOTTINGER: Mr. Mayor, I have listened very
interestingly here to the comments both pro and con, and
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frankly, I am quite disappointed in the presentation of the
proponents for the hospital plan. We have before us maps,
which are just maps, showing the proposal. We have read the
minutes of the Planning Commission meeting, that were
would make a case for us to judge upon.
I have studied the present plan as accurately and as
diligently as I could. I have spent lots of time on it
last night just before coming to this meeting, and as far
as I can see from the general aspect of the precise plan,
the only objection I would have would be to the four story
building. I think that would not be entirely necessary,
but that is really a minor point. The landscaping proposed
would certainly take the sting out of the hospital site.
For the surrounding neighborhood, I don't believethat it
would be entirely objectionable. I think one thing that
has definitely been overlooked in the opponents' testimony
is the fact that Cameron Avenue will go through this area
regardless of whether the hospital is put in or not.
That is the plan for the City. That has been established
for some time, which means the traffic situation is going
to bethere regardless of whether there is a hospital there
or not. In other words, Cameron will be an 80-foot street
and Glendora will be a 100-foot street, so there is going
to be plenty of traffic there regardless of the situation
on the hospital.
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As I say, I am quite disturbed about the presentation
made. It may be due to the fact that the plan is premature;
the need for the hospital, in my opinion, must be clearly
established. I personally feel there is no question that
we need a hospital. However, the facts as presented don't
convince me that it has to be this location. I expected
that they would give a lot of statistics and reports this
evening, and I expected to recommend to the Council that
we take this matter under advisement and study it, study
it diligently. At the present time we don't have those
statistics to study, even though it may be still in order to
give it further consideration in our study session. I would
like to make that suggestion.
COUNCILMAN PITTENGER: Mr. Mayor, I, too, would like
to comment on the opposition, on their well presented case.
I think a little emotionalism crept into it that wasn't
exactly necessary, and I assure you I wasn't much convinced
by it. As Mr. Mottinger said, Glendora and Cameron are
going to be busy streets; that you must face. The additional
traffic that will come to this area because of this hospital
I think is negligible as far as California Street is
concerned. If you have seen the plans as they are, entrances
off of Cameron and Glendora, there is no entrance to the
property off California Street. When Cameron goes through,
You will still have that traffic problem.
Another thing you should know is the City can't go out
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and take the iniative in purchasing the property for a
hospital. The hospital will have to come to us. If
somebody wants to sell a piece of land on that basis, then
that is what will have to happen, and we will have to study
whether that is an appropriate site. It might not be the
best one, if it is a good site, but if the Planning Commissic
recommends it, and the best planning tells us that is a
good place for it, then we are going to take that under
serious consideration. That is about all I have. I am
very disappointed in the lack of presentation by the
proponents of the hospital plan. I commend you fellows
again. You did an excellent job in your opposition.
COUNCILMAN KAY: I probably should apologize to you
people for getting so mad, but I just boiled up a little bit.
I thought of all of the time that we spent on this and then
Ito have it turn out like this. I am sorry I got a little
excited here.
COUNCILMAN CRUMIBEY: All of us have spent a great deal
of time in analyzing the plans for this hospital. In general
it appeared that the overall plan was good. That is from
the standpoint of layout, with the exception of the four
stories. It was well landscaped and well screened. On the
other hand, as I stated previously, we had no case here
whatsoever, nothing on which to proceed. On that basis, I
move that Unclassified Use Permit No. 18 be denied without
prejudice. (Applause.)
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MAYOR BROWN: May I have a word here before we get
this motion and second. I am afraid they will vote before
I can say anything. Before I start, I want to say that
this is probably one of'the most emotional meetings that
could have possibly been held, and I think the audience
has been one of the most orderly, if not the most, of any
meeting that has been this large that we have ever had.
The Council wants to express our appreciation to you people
for it. (Applause.)
I will have to agree that there was no case presented
tonight. Cameron Avenue, as was pointed out to you, will
be a secondary street. There is one thing that very few
people in the City seem to realize. The height of'a
building on an R-1 under our ordinances can be 35 feet high.
Maybe we should change that to where our R-1 is only a
.one story, but it is a rule that is in our ordinance at
the present time.
Now, do you want to second it, Jim?
COUNCILMAN KAY: I would like to second Mr. Crumley's
motion.
COUNCILMAN MOTTINOR: .Before it is voted, before a
vote is taken on this matter, I would like to make one small
comment. I realize that a zone change in a residential area
might be very contrary to the master plan of the City. I
must point -out that the City has not been able to, and
according to the ordinance, would not be able to designate
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an area for a hospital, so at some time that is going to
have to be corrected. We are going to have to have a
hospital somewhere in our City. I think we all face that
fact that we are going to have to make a decision, which
means that somewhere along the line, some of our residences
are going :to be adversely affected, and it is going to be
the duty of the City Council to take the necessary action
in the interest of the entire community. As was stated
earlier this evening, we represent the entire City, and we
have to think along those lines, where the entire community
is concerned. So somewhere along the line, when the proper
time comes, the proper presentation is made, we will have to
act in favor of some kind of a community hospital.
MAYOR BROWN: Although I accepted a motion and a second,
they are out of order. We cannot turn down the Planning
Commissions recommendation outright. We have to refer it
back to them, gentlemen; I am sorry, with certain
recommendations. Do you want to so amend the motion?
COUNCILMAN CRUMLEY: Yes, I will amend the motion to
refer Unclassified Use Permit No. 18 to the Planning
Commission with the recommendation for denial, due to lack
of evidence that has been presented here this evening.
COUNCILMAN KAY: I will second the motion.
MAYOR BROWN: All those in favor signify by the usual
sign.
COUNCILMAN KAY: Aye.
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COUNCILMAN CRUMLEY: Aye.
COUNCILMAN MOTTIN(ER : Aye.
COUNCILMAN PITTENGER: Aye.
MAYOR BROVIN: Aye.
The meeting will be adjourned until April 4 for the
purpose of a joint meeting of the Planning Commission to
interview planning consultants to the City.
COUNCILMAN PITTENGER: I will so move.
(The motion was seconded, put to a vote, and
unanimously carried.)
(Adjournment at 10:20 P.M.)
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