12-08-1969 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING.OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST' COVINA, CALIFORNIA
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The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by
'Mayor Leonard S. Gleckman at 7:32 P.M., in the West Covina City Hall.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Gillum. The invoca-
tion was given by the Reverend Jerome H. Vanover of the Community
Presbyterian Church of West Covina.
ROLL CALL
_.Present: Mayor Gleckman; Councilmen Gillum, Nichols,
Chappell, Lloyd
Also Present: George Aiassa, City Manager
Lela Preston, City Clerk
H. R. Fast, Public Services Director
George Wakefield, City Attorney
Richard Munsell, Planning,Director
George Wakefield, City Attorney
L. Winters, Civil Engineering Associate
Deputy Police, Chief Jim Shade
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
November 24, 1969 — Approved as submitted.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, approving the minutes of the City Council meeting of
November 24, 1969.
AWARD OF BIDS
PROJECT NO. MP-69018-11 LOCATION: Galster Park access road
GALSTER PARK PAVING & and parking lots.
GRADING
Mrs. Preston, City Clerk, stated 5 bids were received in the office of
the City Clerk at 10:00 A.M., on December 3, 1969 and were checked for
errors and determined to be valid bid proposals. Bids received as
follows:
Griffith Co., Los Angeles $27,437.25
Aman Bros. Covina $27,512.40
D & W Paving Glendora $27,530.50
Sully -Miller Long Beach $33,761.80
W.. R. Wilkinson Baldwin Park $33,779.55
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, -accepting the bid of -Griffith Company of Los Angeles as
presented at the bid opening of December 3, 1969, for Project MP
69018-11, and that the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to
execute an agreement with said Griffith Company of Los Angeles ':to do
the work.
PROJECT NO. 7003 LOCATION: Civic Center
CIVIC CENTER
Mrs. Preston, City Clerk stated that 7 bids were received in the office
of the City Clerk at 10:00 A.M., on December 3, 1969; however, 2 bids -
Aman Bros.; and O.K. Coyle were considered improper bids because of
missing a couple of items. Bids acceptable were as follows:
D & W Paving, Inc. Glendora $45,465.25
Radco Construction San Marino $48,208.50
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Award of Bids (Project MP 700.3) Cont°d.
McLaren Construction Co. San Bernardino $49,577.25
Sully Miller Contracting Co. Long Beach $59,779.50
Fred Weisz & Associates Inc. Walnut $62,994.95
Mr. Aiassa: Council has received a new report dated
December 8th in which it is recommended that the
bid proposals for Project MP 7003 be held over to
the Council meeting of December 22, 1969.
So moved by Councilman Gillum, seconded by
Councilman Chappell, and carried,
PUBLIC WORKS...ITEMS
UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 140 LOCATION: Northwesterly
MOBIL OIL CORPORATIO14 corner of Vincent Avenue and
Walnut Creek Parkway.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by, Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, accepting curb and driveway approach improvements and
authorizing release of Pacific Indemnity Company, Faithful Performance
Bond No. 267904 in the amount of $2,100.
PROJECT NO. PB•-6400 LOCATION: Civic Center
CIVIC CENTER - WATER LINE &
STORM DRAIN
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, accepting the water line and storm drain construction and
authorizing release of Fidelity & Deposit Company, Faithful Performance
Bond No. 8186473 in the amount of $33,102.40.
SUPPLEMENTAL WEED & RUB.BISH LOCATION: Various throughout the City
ABATEMENT PROGRAM (1970) '
Reviewed Engineer's report and approv-
ed supplemental weed and rubbish -pro-
gram according to list attached to Resolution and set date of December
22, 1969, for protest hearing on the proposed abatement and rubbish re-
moval.
RESOLUTION NO. 4072 The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE.CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, DECLARING
ALL WEEDS GROWING UPON :•SPECIFIED
STREETS AND PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHIN SAID CITY TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE
AND DECLARING ITS INTENTION TO REMOVE AND ABATE THE SAME UNDER AND IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF TITLE 4, DIVISION 3, PART 2, CHAPTER
13, ARTICLE 2, OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE o 8°
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of
the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopting
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PLANNING COMMISSION
Review Action of December 3.. 1969
(Council reviewed action, considering each item individually.)
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PLANNING COMMISSION ( Review of Action of 12-3-69) ContBdo
Councilman Nichols: Regarding the Unclassified Use Permit request
of Maximum Development Corporation - I am
developing a concern about the large numbers
of convalescent home type installations appearing to be desiring to
move into the community. We may be facing a situation where we are
tending to get an imbalance, particularly in and near the Civic Center
area. I wonder if'any other member of Council would feel that way
and think that we should take a long look at this situation?
Mayor Gleckman: I agree and would suggest, if agreeable to
the Council, that we take a look and call up
this item. (No objections by Council, so
ordered.)
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carried, to accept and file the actions taken by the Planning
Commission at its meeting of December 3, 1969, with the exception of
Item 1 under Public Hearings.
RECREATION & PARK COMMISSION
Review Action of November 25. 1969
(Council considered each item individually.) (Council asked that Item
4 - Park Designer, be summarized in report form and presented to the
Council for their further action.)
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded with Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that the actions taken by the Recreation & Park Commission
at the meeting of November 25, 1969, be accepted and filed, with the
exception of Item 4.,
PERSONNEL BOARD
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, to accept and file the action of the Personnel Board taken at
their meeting of November 4, 1969.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
a) Postcard from Bob Tippit of Azusa criticizing City Council
for allowing one Parade and stopping another
Motion by Councilman -Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
to receive and file.'
b) Letter from E. Scott of El Monte re City Council°s action
re Parades in West Covina
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, to receive and file.
c) Memo from Planned Parenthood -World Population
re Various items
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carried, referring this.item to staff.
d) Letter, Government Code, Policy Statement & Planning Area Map
from California Council on Intergovernmental Relations
requesting reaction to current boundaries, etc.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that this item be referred to staff.
e) Letter from County of L. A. Department of Real Estate
Management requesting review of proposed abandonment of
Pass & Covina Road
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Written'Communications (Item e) Cont'd.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that this item be referred to staff.
f) Letter from Mrs. Jack R. Witt of West Covina requesting
consideration of an appointment to Human Relations Commission
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
• carried, directing a letter be prepared for the Mayor's signature
acknowledging the letter from Mrs. Witt and explaining previous action
of Council, and expressing appreciation of her interest, hoping that
it will be extended again'in the future.
g) Letter from San Gabriel Valley Y.W.C.A. re Newspaper
Collection Program
(Council held over to Item 5 of City Manager's agenda)
h) Copy of letter from Supervisor Frank G. Bonelli
that was sent to the President of Independent Cities re
proposals �SUggested by Grand Jury re audit of contract service
costs to cities re Sheriff's Service
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, to receive and file.
i) Letter from Assemblyman Richard Barnes re proposed 1970
legislation to change formula for distribution of Gas Tax
Highway Construction Funds
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, referring to staff.
j) Opinions and Order -from PUC re application of Southern
Pacific Company re use of backlights in connection with
No. 8 Grade Crossing Signals
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, to receive and file.
k) Request from L.A. County Heart Association for permission to
conduct their Annual Heart Health Education & Fund Raisina Campaian
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carried, approving the requestoand'.that:.perinission be granted.
1) Letter from Arthur Baldonado, Attorney representing Frank's
Barber Shop in West Covina Plaza requesting repeal of Sunday
closina for Barber Shops law
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that a letter be prepared over the .Mayor's signature
acknowledging receipt of this letter and informing the correspondent
that the communication has been forwarded to city staff and City
Attorney for advice.
CITY ATTORNEY
ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented:
INTRODUCTION "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING THE...WES.T'.COVI:NA�MUNICIPAL
.CODE SO AS TO:REZONE.'CERTAIN' PREMISES. (Zone Change
No.427 Art Pizzo and Vincent Manno)
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, waiving
further reading of the body of said Ordinance. Motion carried.
Motion by Councilman Chappell., seconded by Councilman Lloyd., and
carried, introducing said Ordinance.
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CITY ATTORNEY - Cont°de''
ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented:
INTRODUCTION "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
/amendment No-. 106 OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING .SECT.I:ONS:..92:12. 2', . 9212. 9,
9216. 2" "AND:' 9227.3 OF THE. WEST; C.OV:INA -MUNICIPAL.,
CODE.RELATING TO DRIVE-IN &DRIVE -THROUGH USE OF
PROPERTY.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, waiving further reading of the.body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, introducing said Ordinance.
ORDINANCE NO. 1106 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
Amendment No.98 OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING SECTIONS 9210.2,
9211.2, 9211.3, 9212.8, 9222.10, 9222.19,
9227.2, and 9227.3 of, AND REPEALING SECTION 9222.9 OF, THE WEST
COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE, RELATING TO ZONING AND THE USE OF PROPERTY."
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopting
said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES:. Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, -Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ORDINANCE NO. 1107 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING SECTIONS 2709 AND
2710 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELAT-
ING TO THE PURCHASING OF SUPPLIES, SERVICES & EQUIPMENT°
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Mayor Gleckman,-and
carried, waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopting
said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ORDINANCE NO. 1108 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
Zone'Change No.428 OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING THE WEST COVINA
MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES.
(Zone Change: No • 428 � Ray M. Coley)
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, adopting
said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ORDINANCE NO. 1109 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
Personnel OF WEST COVINA, ADDING CHAPTER 4.6 to ARTICLE
I.I" OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE PROVID-
ING FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR DAMAGE TO PROPERTY OF EMPLOYEES."
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, .and
carried, waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance.
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CITY ATTORNEY (Ordinance No. 1109) Cont"d.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopting
said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
.NOES: None
ABSENT: None
• Motion b Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd and
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carried, that Item 7, a resolution pertaining to Clerk -Steno
positions in the Police Department, be continued to the Council
meeting of January 12, 1970, at the request of the Personnel Depart-
ment.
RESOLUTION NO. 4073, The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
:.Tax.Dastx.c.ts 1970=71 THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, DESIGNATING
TAXATION DISTRICTS FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR 1970-71. ""
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive,further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, adopting
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as kollows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO. 4074
0 ADOPTED
South Glendora Avenue Plan
Area . I.
Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, APPROVING
REVISED SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE PLAN,
AREA 1, AS MODIFIED BY CITY COUNCIL
(City Initiated)."
Mayor:.:Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of
the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, adopting
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO, 4075
ADOPTED
Precise:.Plan .No.''. 578
Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, APPROV-
ING PRECISE PLAN NO. 578 (Art Pizzo-
& Vincent Manno.)'"
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of
the body of said Resolution.
Motion by -Councilman Chappell, seconded.by Councilman Lloyd, adopting
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
MERCED AVENUE HORSE RANCH
Mr. Wakefield: There is actually nothing new to report. We
.have not as yet received a trial date from
the Court,
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CITY ATTORNEY - Cont°d.
ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented:
INTRODUCTION "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
..Acceptance of Checks OF WEST COVINA, ADDING PART 3 TO CHAPTER 9 OF
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE
ACCEPTANCE OF CHECKS BY CITY DEPARTMENTS."
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Mayor Gleckman, and carried,
waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance.
ration by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, introducing said Ordinance.
HEARINGS
ZONE CHANGE NO. 432
UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 147
Donald Mellman
DENIED
a service station on .67 acre of land.
Resolutions No. 2210 & 2211.
LOCATION: Northwest corner of
Grand Avenue & Fairway Lane
.REQUEST Approval of a zone
change from R-3 to C-2 for 1.63
acres of land; and approval of
an unclassified use permit for
Recommended by Planning Commission
(Mr.Munse:llPlanning Director, briefly summarized the Planning Commission
recommendation and read Resolutions Nos. 2210 and 2211. Slides shown and
explained.)
THIS IS THE TIME AND.PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONE CHANGE NO. 432
AND UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 147
IN FAVOR
Allen Moline The only point that I would like to add is the
257 So. Spring Street fact the applicant has put in Fairway Lane as
Los Angeles per the previous zone change case to the cost
of.approximately $24,000 plus the dedication of
land to the City. We feel the opening of Fairway Lane now is the
eastern gateway to the shopping center and opens up the area to the
property to the northeast and southwest and offers good access and the
advent of the new on and off ramp will further increase the traffic
pattern to this area. The applicant is working on the property to the
west and hopes to get a restaurant type of use which.he feels will
complete the commercial pattern for the intersection not only in
relationship to the freeway uses but to the betterment of the property
owners in the area.
NO FURTHER PUBLIC TESTIMONY, PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED, COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Munsell, the proposed Grand Avenue inter-
change - how will this affect this complete
location with regard to the street intersections?
(Mr. Munsell explained with the use of the slides, saying that basically
the commercial pattern at Grand Avenue and the service station, will be
north of the outlets to the service roads. The City Engineer explained
(using the slides)the exact properties that will be taken up with the
freeway.)
Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Munsell what is actually existing on the
property immediately across the street to the
south of this parcel?
Mr. Munsell: A Union Oil Service Station, just completed.
Councilman Lloyd: When are we contemplating the completion of
the cloverleaf at the freeway and Grand?
Mr. Zimmerman: This is planned to start at the present time
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and it will perhaps be completed in 1972. It is scheduled to be a
2-1-, year contract.
Councilman Lloyd: Would you say this might possibly end up as a
piece of property included in some of the
plans of the State in that area?
Mr. Zimmerman: No. In putting through Fairway Lane this was
in accord with the Freeway Agreement.
(Councilman Lloyd asked what was directly east on the property across
the street on Grand Avenue; Mr. Munsell showed slide stating a vacant
large R-3 parcel, and that at the present time no indication of desire
to develop has been shown.)
Councilman Lloyd: According to my count I find we have 5 service
stations existing now between,Grand and Barranca.
Gentlemen, I am:not really sure in my own mind
the necessity of this. .It is a fine development, but we don't have the
density of people at,this time. We already have a service station
located at Fairway - the Union Oil Station, and I feel no compulsion
whatsoever to put in another, which constitutes the 6th within one
major block area. I am unalterably opposed to this indiscriminate
placement of service stations, particularly in view of the fact that
we have 12 or 13 service stations in the City which are not at the
present time in service. I would recommend very strongly a "no" vote.
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Zimmerman, the land area southeast of the
proposed development, this would be somewhat of
an island in itself after the interchange is
completed (explained). (Mr. Zimmerman said that is correct.) I keep
thinking of this triangle that was created a few years ago at Vincent
and Glendora and I am wondering if we are creating the same thing and
will end up with an island that will remain vacant because it is
surrounded on three sides by traffic.
Councilman Chappell: I think when we approved the service station
across the street, the same gentleman owned
that property and at that time it seemed to me
we were led to believe that across the street would be the continuance
of the apartments that are presently there and now we find we are
being asked for a zone change for this particular need. I can see no
need for another service station at the present time.
Councilman Nichols: I am personally very gratified to hear all
three councilmen that have spoken, take the
position of strength relative to additional
service stations in the City in areas where they are not needed. I
agree with everything. said and I only hope that all of us will maintain
our resolve at the times when future applications may come in that will
involve further saturation of the same type. It is a little ridiculous
tome to see a brand new service station located immediately in
competition with another brand new service station in a City where
there are too many fine new service stations. And if we talk about
too many Taco stands or too many this or that we certainly should
talk about too'many service stations. If we have any concept in terms
of keeping a balance of uses in our City that concept should be
considered here. So I subscribe to all the points made and would take.
the same position.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, denying
Zone Change No. 432. Motion carried on roll All vote as follows:
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AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None i
ABSENT: None
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, denying Unclassified Use Permit No. 147.
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VARIANCE NO. 646 LOCATION: 150 South California at the
GUARANTEE.SAVINGS & LOAN.-ASSO. northeast corner of California Avenue
DENIED and Center -Street.
REQUEST approval of a variance to per-
mit the continuance of an existing
non -conforming sign and 'construction of two additional detached signs.
Denied by Planning Commission Resolution No. 2212.
(Mr.Runsell read Planning Commission Resolution No., 2212; slides.shown
of the sign and property and explained)
THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON VARIANCE NO. 646.
IN FAVOR
Morris Scott (Sworn in by City Clerk)
2313 E. Alaska I am a member of the staff of the Guarantee
West Covina Savings & Loan Association. We have requested
variancesr,only to identify our building and
our business. The existing roof sign is under
the limit for a freeway type business. We have savings accounts from.
all the valley. We make loans all over the valley; as far as
one hundred miles away. We need proper identification and that is all
we are asking, so the local people can find us and those that are coming
from a distance can find our building. Thank. you.
IN OPPOSITION
(Sworn in by City Clerk)
W: Tanking I have a business at'183 South Glendora Avenue.
1538 E. Cameron Avenue All I ask for is 3 variances for the House of
West Covina Health Foods at 183 South Glendora Avenue,
because ....
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Tanking, will you restrict your opposition
to what is being requested here this evening.
Mr. Tanking: I gave you a point to - think about. I represent
160 businesses, the West Covina Center Business
Association, and I am one of two Chairman. I
don't like legal graft. I know that a deal is being implemented having
to do with this business of a variance. The gentleman that spoke as a
proponent indicated they deal in a great area. I, as a businessman
for 14 years in this City, deal in a great area. I draw from a big
area. I, at the present,time, have a contract for a sign, where I am
spending $480.00 to lose my identification for an existing business
of a much longer time than the Guarantee Savings. I am in my 15th
year of business. I.have to lose my identification entirely coming
from the north on Glendora Avenue. I have to change my sign level
from a very well identifiable very well arranged and compatible type
of sign north and south, to a single faced thing that goes only to the
southeast, to conform to the square footage arranged with
Mr. Zimmerman's office. I don't like the idea at all that an arrange-
ment is being made where if Guarantee Savings & Loan will -allow the
City of West Covina a piece of property for the hook ramp into the
Plaza, that you will allow them to continue to have the same signage
which they have now, which is illegal. I am in favor of Guaranteed
Savings & Loan having every and any kind of a,sign. It is a fine idea
.and I am in favor of it - I think it is a fine idea that they have a
sign as big as they have now and even bigger and better than that
and you give it to them and leave the rest of'.us, alone. Let us have
the signs we have now. Evidently we are not big and strong enough to
fight the battle to get the variances that the bank of ,America,
California Bank, and Guarantee Savings & Loan can get. All I am is
Bill Tanking with the Health Foods, doing a successful business in
the Old Center and what do I get? I get a conformity deal. You
conform or we take you to court! You better not allow this particular
thing unless you want all of this changed entirely - I am going to
withdraw my sign contract with the sign outfit and go to Court with all
the rest of the business people because of this strange manipulation
going on! The Plaza gets a hook ramp, and maybe it benefits me, but I
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HEARINGS (Variance No. 646) Cont'd.
can't see it at all. This kind of an arrangement. Gentlemen, I am
ashamed that you even consider a thing like this. You have enforced
a new Ordinance on signage, sixty-five of one.hundred and sixty
businesses are affected by this and you say we have.to go this route
and yet you let special considerations come in.
Mayor Gleckman:. Let me correct you right now. There isn't a
person in the City.of West Covina that owns a
business that is not entitled to make applica-
tion for a'variance.
Mr. Tanking: And they don't get a variance, they are told
to conform. This meeting with your group is
of no value to anyone that has met with them
yet. They are told to conform - this is what you have.to do. Then
Guarantee. Savings & Loan comes up with a big program with a lot of
money and with a hook ramp into the Plaza as a lever for a legal
phony -baloney, and it gets consideration in your Council.
Mayor Gleckman: If you would like to apply for a variance you
would get the same consideration.
Mr. Tanking: You bet! I can't apply for a variance - it
doesn't come through this group - they can't
allow it, the pressure is too great against
it - I am too small. All I am is a small successful businessman.
(Councilman Nichols disked to be heard; Mr. Tanking remarked "I heard
from Councilman Nichols before - he has an erroneous impression of my
mental capacity." Mayor Gleckman called for consideration from
Mn. Tanking with reference to hearing from the Council, giving them the
same consideration they were giving him.)
Councilman Nichols: First may I say that I have no erroneous
conception of your integrity or your intelli-
gence, I have no recollection of ever having
insulted you....
Mr. Tanking: You indicated one time if I could read fast
enough. I don't read, I know.
Councilman Nichols: The testimony that has been given for the past
few minutes, as I understand.it, doesn't bear
at all on the matter pending before the Council.
There were some very unfortunate allegations made that have no substance
in fact at all as far as I am personally concerned. Mr. Mayor, if
Mr. Tanking has no testimony to give in respect to the matter before us
I would urge the chair to rule him out of order and suggest that he take
a seat.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Tanking do you have anything to add to your
objection to what you have already given?
Mr. Tanking: My objection is that this sign does not conform
to the programming that is being enforced in
West Covina and you are trying to allow an
exception to this particular thing. If you can allow an'exception to
this - if you can allow an abortion to happen like that theatre across
from the Civic Center - -
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Tanking, I think we have heard enough, will
you please sit down.
M. Lestick (Sworn in by City Clerk)
1234 E. Larkwood I also am representing the Merchants Association
West Covina in the Center area. The majority of us reflect
in essence some of the thoughts that Mr. Tanking
just brought forth.. You have a Sign Advisory Committee, who is to meet
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with the different people in our area to discuss the problems of our
signage. Myself, personally I feel we need conformity, we need it in
the worst way. Not,only because of my own business.- in one direction
I appear to, be in the Hair Dressing business and from the other
direction I look like I am operating a liquor store - so my sign is
totally of no use. However, the biggest point brought out here was
the factor that if you allow variances to be so widespread then you
may as well not have an Ordinance. If everyone.can come in and with
some possibilities of political overtones, and I am not sure of this
allegation brought up, but if this can happen,then we are losing
everything the Council has done in passing the sign ordirYfnce. Thank
you.
Ernie Altdaver (Sworn in by City Clerk)
245 So. Glendora I am here as a merchant of West Covina, as well
West Covina as a member of the Sign Advisory Committee.
On these two counts I wish to register a strong
protest of the granting of this variance. Many of the merchants have
conformed with the law and there are many more planning to do so, even
at great expense to themselves. It wouldn't be fair to.these merchants
that have conformed and are conforming, to allow this variance. Many
of the merchants have expressed the thought that the big fellows, as
they term them, are going to get away with their present signs and
if you grant this, I feel a lot will feel that they were right. If the
variance is granted you might as well repeal the sign ordinance as it
stands because by granting the variance you are going to punch a lot
of holes in the ordinance and render it useless and you might as well
disband the Sign Advisory Committee because its work will be down the
drain.
As far as the freeway orientation business is
concerned, I can't see any one driving along the freeway looking for a
savings and loan association to put money in that they have.in'their
pocket. A service station, a restaurant, a motel - this I consider
to be freeway service facilities but certainly not a savings and loan
association. If you are going to consider a.savings and loan
a freeway oriented business then you might as well consider a mortuary.,.
We have one on South Glendora Avenue, closer to the freeway, and if you
are going to grant this variance, should this, mortuary,, request a
variance you will have to grant it because that is certainly more of a
freeway related business than a savings and loan.
(Proponent did not desire time for rebuttal) NO FURTHER PUBLIC
TESTIMONY, HEARING CLOSED° COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Councilman Lloyd: I believe the slides are probably 35 milli-
meter slides.and while I appreciate the
pictures that are taken, I wonder if
consideration was given to the focal length of the camera on the
readability of the sign, etc.? While I am not an expert, I did
participate in my military duties as an aerial photographer and I
remember that the focal length of the camera was very important and
normally most 35 millimeter cameras have a 50 or 55 millimeter
standard lens and if that is the case then you,do an injustice in these
pictures because normally the human eye sees the equivalent of 120 to
140 millimeters and although I seethe point you are making and I am
not disagreeing with it, I wonder if the perspective is correct. Did
you check that out?
Mr. Munsell: The camera does have a 55 millimeter lens. I
would also indicate that we .tunneled into a
more precise area to help us locate the sign.
It is not intended by staff to show that the sign is not eligible but
the fact that its bulk and relationship to the signs around as you are
looking.for it is not easily discernible of how far you can see it and
in terms of what you can see thru the fence along the freeway.
Councilman Lloyd: When and if this., freeway ramp change comes
through - how close does that come?
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Mr. Zimmerman: The new ramp will be approximately where it
is existing now until it gets close to Vincent
Avenue (Explained from slide). There will be
some vacant property there after the ramps are revised. There is room
for a building but none is planned. This area is owned by the Guarantee.
Savings & Loan.
Councilman Lloyd: I appreciate the problems of the Sign Ordinance;
I didnIt appreciate the comments referring to
somebody being unduly influenced, etc., because
it is not true 'and I don't think any member of this Council deserves
that kind of consideration. I have, and each one of the members have
served long and hard with integrity and honesty and'I am incensed that
someone would make such a statement. However, in looking it over and
in reviewing it, and I have read the minutes of the Planning -Commission
I am favorably disposed to allowing the variances. It doesn't
interfere with anything else coming in through there. The Home Savings
& Loan is building a 6 story building and when they complete that
building they will probably put their sign on top?
Mr. Munsell: It will be a facia sign.on the side of the
building.
Councilman Lloyd: Home Savings & Loan is probably not a freeway
oriented business yet it in fact has a sign
which extends upwards of 60 to 701.and it is a•
direct competitor to Guarantee, Savings & Loan. Personally I think it
is close enough to the freeway, I recognize the fact that there can be
some questions on the thing, but overall I think there are some areas
and I think this close to the freeway is one of them, that should be
given consideration. My immediate inclination is to be favorably
disposed to the request.
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Munsell did I understand correctly that
when there is a request for a variance the
staff does not have the right to issue when
there are nonconforming signs?
Mr. Munsell: When there is a request for a sign modification
the staff is not allov,ed to allow even conform-
ing signs to be applied to the property unless
the property entirely conforms at that time. The staff, of course,
does not have the right to issue a variance.
Councilman Gillum: On this plot plan we have showing the signs
asked for in the,parking lot, it -shows a
driveway'-. to the east - there is not a driveway
there now is there?
Mr. Munsell: No, the applicant has indicated he proposes
to run a driveway from his building to Vincent
Avenue.
Councilman Gillum: If the Council would approve this request to
leave the sign that exists now, then as of
September 1970 the sign is nonconforming
according to the new sign ordinance - is'this correct?
Mr. Munsell: If a variance is granted, the variance super -
cedes the. sign ordinance in terms of height
and distance, etc. If granted that sign would
now become legal and offsets any ordinance in terms of zoning.
Councilman Gillum: Even the part with the neon?
Mr. Munsell: Correct..
Councilman Gillum: I can appreciate the concern of Guarantee(.
Savings & Loan but I am afraid I am somewhat
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at the opposite end that Mr. Lloyd is at. I think mainly, and I
think.we all received a copy of the minutes of the Sign Advisory
Committee of November 26, 1969, wherein the Committee feels that
uniform application to the sign ordinance to all throughout the City
is important to the work of this Committee. Further stating, "if
any major deviation -is permitted the Committee finds it would hamper
• its work in the future and impair the success of the abatement program."
I am inclined to agree with them. I am also concerned where do we
draw the line when it comes to freeway oriented businesses? Do we
draw a line on both sides of the freeway and every one that falls
within 50, or 100' of the freeway is to consider themselves a freeway
oriented business, whether they are the type of business that depends
on freeway traffic or just a normal business? I think probably one
of the largest areas we have of nonconforming signs is the original
shopping center in West Covina on Garvey Avenue. I am concerned if we
would permit this nonconforming sign would we have the right to deny
these businesses that face the freeway and who have indicated to me on
many occasions that they felt they were freeway oriented and received
much of their business from the freeway traffic. We have planted vines
along the freeway and they feel this even blocks out the present sign -
age. I can understand and appreciate the concern of the Guarantee.
Savings & Loan Association for the location and position of this sign
but are we going to create a situation that this Council and future
Councils will be faced with as to where do we draw the line as to
freeway oriented business and what can we allow or disallow? I per-
sonally would like to see some decision on that.before we get into
what is freeway oriented and what isn't.
I am sure if we approved this request we are
going to have many merchants here saying they are freeway oriented
and have a right to the same signage. We should make some decisions
with the Planning Commission and staff as to where do we draw the line,
before we open -Pandora's box.
Councilman Nichols: I have tried to hear the evidence presented
to the Council with as much objectivity as I
can bring to bear. I,have heard reports from`
about a half dozen different people that Guarantee, Savings is.with-
holding the dedication of certain portions of -land pending Council
action on this variance, and I do know certain dedication of land pro-
ceedings have.been delayed. If I could in good conscience vote to
grant this variance because I felt it -was -'an equitty'.aption I would do
so, if even I could lean a little ways and vote for it, I would do so.
The testimony of the people who have opposed this, as far as I am
personally concerned, is correct, and I couldn't vote to grant this
variance because I believe it is a special interest variance. I
believe as has been testified that all those that have conformed
already will have been treated by unintention unfairly and I believe
all of the efforts of the Sign Ordinance will be going right down the
tube, all the efforts of the staff, all the efforts of the Sign .
Advisory Committee. I couldn't sit here again and vote to make any
one else conform and I am real sorry because I would like to see the
improvements and I would only leave the thought as a Councilman in
this community, I would hate to be a part of the institution of this
community and live on in this community with all the business people
around me and the citizens and the Council and everyone else, knowing
that I had attempted to make that kind of a package, so I oppose it.
Councilman Chappell: I would like to know the time the Bank of
America and Home Savings & Loan were given
their variances for signs as to height?
Mr. Munsell: Home Savings & Loan was given a variance
relatively recently in terms of additional
signage because the building was high and the
sign was to be placed in a conforming manner. The Bank of America__
was given a variance a number of years ago to exceed the height limit
by only 51 at that time wnen the sign height was considerably higher
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than it .is now.. The reasons for the variance at that time was
because they are at the vortex of the Plaza Shopping area and did
not have equal signage in terms of the rest of the stores because of
their location. So their variance for excessive sign height at that
time was not a great deviation. This again brings back some of the
.problems in terms of not granting variances which again supercedes
zoning. As the Sign Ordinance has changed in tune with the community in
trying to solve some of the clutter in signage, especially in the strip
commercial and smaller areas, the variances granted in the past create
a'problem in the fact they cannot be abated by any manner we have
available to us at this time.
Councilman Chappell: Then we have in the past and are continuing to
cite a large number of businessmen, and where
I have my business, we have taken them to court
because they are not conforming with the sign ordinance; I don't see
how we can turn around now .and give this sort of a variance, although
it is a very fine business and I wish there was some way we could
review our whole sign ordinance because nothing gets to me more when I
am out on the street and stop for coffee or lunch - then to have two
or three businessmen getting all over me with regard to the sign
ordinance and what we are doing to them. I say what is good for one
is good for all and that even I have a nonconforming sign and as of
September, 1970, I will have to conform, and if we are going to have
these laws and regulations in our community and our staff and Planning
Commission feels this is good for the whole community, then I will have
to go along. If we are all going to be punished and sometimes I think
some of these things are like punishment but then at other times I
can see where it has done a lot of good - a very fine job of cleaning
up signs that were very poor and in instances vulgar in taste even, so
I will say I will be opposing this variance for the reasons so stated.
Mayor Gleckman: I have a few comments to make with regard to
the allegations made this evening. First of all
the Sign Ordinance came into effect in 1958
and in 1958 the very same persons that testified today screamed then -
why do I have to conform it is going to cost me money, and I will pull
that testimony out, gladly, if it is wanted. Five years later they
were sent a letter that this Sign Ordinance was passed in 1958 and in
the very near future they should conform to whatever the Sign Ordinance
is and at that time the Sign Ordinance was again reviewed, public hear-
ings held with all the merchants, etc. We then reaffirmed at that
particular time, and the Council I am talking about consisted of,
I believe only Councilman Nichols was a -member at that time. In 1968
ten years later a letter was sent out under the signature of Harvey
Krieger - Mayor at that time - asking each merchant to conform that
they had been given ten years of notification. In March 1968 that
letter went out that they should conform immediately. In April of 1968
I became the Mayor of West Covina and at that time I said "look lets
grant them another moratorium and give them another year and a half to
conform.." Which in all was 11 years. When the letter finally went
out in 1969 saying now you have had plenty of time we would like to
have you conform, I was informed by UheBuilding Department that my name
was not in too good standing with the merchants.on Glendora Avenue,
three of whom have testified here tonight. I made it my business to go
down there - not at their request, I went and sat with them and said
if you are unhappy with the Sign Ordinance and unhappy with what you
have to conform with, why don't you tell your elected officials instead
of sitting around and complaining and blaming someone, particularly me,
because I wasn't here when it was adopted but because I was the Mayor
the letter went out -over:. my signature again enforcing the Sign
Ordinance. Those very same people said they were unhappy with having
to conform that were here tonight. I came back to the City Hall and
asked the Council and City Manager to set up a,Sign Advisory Committee
to meet with anyone,and everyone - including outside professional sign
people - to sit down -and discuss what problems were in their particular
area. So to say this Council is interested in making a deal and this
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Council is double crossing anyone - this is all uncalled for. At
no time did I ever receive a phone call - to my knowledge - saying
someone was unhappy with the idea of anyone applying for a variance
to their particular sign and when the day comes -that any ordinance
that is written by this City Council or any Council, becomes final
and no legal procedure can be taken by people that are unhappy with
.the Ordinance well that is the day you don't have freedom in
` this country. As far as I am concerned the man who made the
application for this variance, if he wanted a sign 10,000 ' high and
5,000' wide, he would have the right to request this; and any other
person in this City has that right, including the three people who
testified. If they felt they were being treated unfairly or that they
should have received some variation on their sign, that privilege is
open to them and will continue to be open to them. So if they are
going to make the comparison that no one else.should be given the
consideration of a sign variance, I feel they are in error.
Now let's get back to.the immediate sign
variance request. The request did go through the normal procedure,
did meet with the Sign Advisory Committee that was set up and establish-
ed for this purpose by this Council. If anyone meets with that
Committee and is unhappy with the decision given, they have the right
of appeal. It happened in this instance. It came up before the
Planning Commission and a staff report went to the Planning Commission
which talked about a modified variance which staff was in'favor of
and at that time the Planning Commission turned it down. Anytime a
political individual, preferably an elected official of this Council,
comes to you'and says to you the law is the law - I don't want to hear
anything else about it - - you better start looking for another
elected official because his job is to help and not try and catch
somebody at something. And how does he help? Not on an individual
basis only,but on a community wide basis. I,. myself, felt this
particular sign in this particular area and the consequences it had
to bring to this community, such as a dedication of property that would
probably save'the taxpayers of this community anywhere from $60,000 to
$100,000, did deserve some consideration and it would be political
consideration, and I would be the first one here to blame any City
Council if they didn't take that into consideration. But to say that
there was a political deal made, I resent the remark and particularly
coming from an intelligent individual who had no right to say that,
unless he was told something erroneously by somebody.
Mr. Munsell, will you read the 4 reasons for a
variance.
Mr. Munsell: The findings that have to be met for a
variance are: 1 - that the particular variance
requested would not in anyway be detrimental
to the surrounding property or uses in the area; 2 - that the
institutions or surrounding uses of similar activities are of such a
nature that the property owner would be denied a right which other
properties in similar circumstances are granted; 3 - that the granting
of the variance would be materially detrimental to the public welfare
and injurious to the surrounding property in the immediate area and
zone; and 4 - that the variance would not adversely affect the General
Plan.
Mayor Gleckman: Thank you. Speaking to Item #2 - has this
privilege been granted to any other similar
use in the general vicinity? A variance for the.
height of a.sign? And I am speaking of the Bank of America and Home
Savings & Loan - were they granted a sign variance?
Mr. Munsell: Bank of America was granted a height variance,
I believe it was 45' 'or 501.
Mayor Gleckman: 501. I bring this to mind because there was
some indication here that this variance was
being considered strictly on a political basis.
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First of all, when I looked at the variance request, I took those two
things in mind, particularly the Bank of America which was granted a
50' high sign while I was here, and now we are talking about 44.9' and
I gather they are in a similar business and I.gather they are further
back than Guarantee Savings.
Mr. Munsell: That is correct. However the sign limit was
45' at that time.
Mayor Gleckman: Yes and then.they were granted a variance in
height and they do have a 50' high sign and
it can't be taken down by this Council under
the present Sign Ordinance?
Mr. Munsell: Yes, that is correct.
Mayor Gleckman: So they are having a right that is being denied
these people. I am not trying to build a case)
I am only giving you examples that the
variance was asked for on a sound basis and not strictly a political
deal.. In:your report Mr. Munsell, outside of,the height, what was
your recommendation to the Planning Commission regarding this variance?
Mr. Munsell: The recommendation had several facets; one,
that the applicant's 'sign be made to conform
sign ways - the exposed neon be covered) as
required also for the Home Savings & Loan. In addition to this it
was indicated that the modification of the two free standing signs
should be such that they would not exceed 6' in height and roughly
a 3 x 5' area or about 15 sq. feet and be in a 24 sq. foot planter
enclosure.
Mayor Gleckman: In other words if the applicant would conform
with your recommendations.with the exception
to the height, then the real decision would
be by this City Council if they were to be granted the height?
Mr. Munsell: Other than the height they would be within
the Ordinance.
Mayor Gleckman: Okay. The only reason I bring this to mind
and went back into past history was as far as
I am concerned I think this is a political
decision. Again I am not saying that there are not grounds for this
variance,,because I think once that hook ramp comes off that there
isn't one business that we are talking about and that brought up
objections this evening, that comes anywhere near the distance of
this building to the off ramp. And also.a 5.01 limit has been granted
to an institution that is even further away frcn the freeway and
thirdly, I don't see where it would be injurious to -the health, public
welfare or the General Plan. The only thing I will comment on and I
do agrees and that is by interpretation some of the people that are
conforming.to the sign ordinance if they use this as a specific
example forgetting about location, they are 100% right. They are
being denied a right.that is being asked for by these people .in an
application for a variance, which does not mean that any person
cannot come before this City Council and ask for a variance strictly
_ on height predicated on the relationship to the freeway.
Further, as far as I was concerned, I had no
indication that this would be as much a problem for this Council to
decide as was brought out this evening. Ilmyself,felt if a variance
could be shown and we could get the off ramp into the Plaza without
creating all this disturbances-l-think-honestly I would be in favor of
it, not with the idea that a political deal was being made, but that
we were getting something for the City of West Covina without having
to go out and t)ay $60,000 to $100,000. And even though the three
g:entlemen- speaking .in opposition to this, are not located in the Plaza
and it may not materially help their businesses, it sure might help a
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great many businesses in this City, and this City is in dire need of
sales tax base, and that is my suggestion.
Councilman Chappell: Perhaps we should table this decision tonight
and go into a study of. a freeway ordinance
and then we would have something to hang our
• .hat on. What we have before us doesn't give us all the tools that we
need to approve, or disapprove this variance.
Mayor Gleckman: I don't know what the Council's pleasure is,
but going along with what you said, let me
say I also have my doubts about some of the
areas of the Sign Ordinance which are being enforced in.our'City;
of which I had a part in'.voting for adoption - nor did I.realize the
problems it would create and nowhere do I remember within the Sign
Ordinance adoption that we gave the prerogative to either the Sign
Advisory Committee or the Planning Department.to specify particular
uses which would be classified as freeway oriented. Now maybe I am
wrong but either way we are opening Pandora's box.
Councilman Nichols: That is my.very great concern. I think the
Council may find itself in an almost
intolerable position of attempting to change
the Ordinance every time someone changes their sign in the City. We
will have so many signs going up and down at the merchants expense if
we decide that we have done something correctly .or incorrectly. I
wanted one thing clarified - what year was it that the variance for
the Bank of America was granted?
Mayor Gleckman: I believe I can answer that, I was on the
Planning Commission at that time. It was
1964 or 1965.
Councilman Nichols: I believe it was just before my time on the
Council because I don't remember the sign
variance,-; coming up. I remember it was
extensively revised and significantly tightened in many respects sub-
sequent to the granting of that variance, so the application of that
variance as a precedent for the particular height would not be valid
although the concept of a height.variance would be. It is my under-
standing also that the applicant does have to the middle of 1970
before he must conform and I think your suggestion is a very valid one
and that well before then this Council should take another look at the
freeway oriented businesses, but my personal feeling would be that
this matter should be resolved tonight and there would be ample time
in the interim if we are going to make changes, rather than hold this
in limbo as an undecided issue before the business community. I
would prefer to resolve it tonight and latercome back with regard to
the freeway oriented usages. I agree with Mayor Gleckman, that the
one single potential justification for the variance on this property,
that might not apply to other properties.,if in fact it would gain a
significant freeway orientation that it does not now enjoy and it
may be that within the next few months we can determine there are
changes underway that would create a far greater visibility for this
structure and make it much more prominent to the freeway that would
in fact justify the applicant again requesting a variance. As it
stands at the present time I don't feel, as much as I would like too
for the reasons stated by the Mayor, that I can support it.
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Scott, the staff made certain recommenda-
tions before the Planning Commission and we
lave them before us. What would be your
feeling at this time,: disregarding the.height not to extend 13' above
the roof, your acceptance of and conforming to the recommendations
made by staff in Study Plan A-B and C? (Read requirements)
May I have your comments on those recommendations?
Mr. Scott: Yes. Taking one at a time. There is no
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question in our.mind� although there evidently is in Councils, but
that we are a freeway oriented business. Home Savings is building
a 6 story building and they intend to occupy the bottom two floors.
The only reason they built that building was because it.is sitting
on the San Bernardino Freeway. At Hollywood and Vine with a 20 story
building across the street they have a two story building. This was
their whole intent of putting a 6 story building up therefor the,
signature they would have along the freeway.
As far as closing up the neon, we would be
glad to do that if we can. I have discussed it with our sign people
and they feel it can be done with the use of plastic, etc. So I
don't believe it.will be.a problem.
The sign on Vincent Avenue, the one we would
be glad to put in a planter - we planned on doing that and if it does
not appear on the.plan that way it was an oversight. A 3 x.5 was. the
request of staff and we requested 21 square feet instead of stating
the exact size of the sign because of the nature of the name of the
business. We preferred to have the. recommendation in some type of
square footage so we can work out the lettering accordingly, hence
our request for 21 square feet. Our other sign in the parking lot,
we are requesting 361. As far as the height is concerned we have a
problem, we don't want to create a hazard as far as people coming in
and going out of the parking lot in their car. That was the reason
we wanted the sign left up quite high so they can look up and down
the street and see the traffic flow.
(Councilman Lloyd asked that the items in question again be shown
on the slides. Mr. Munsell showed the slides and explained.)
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Scott, what the staff is proposing is
not acceptable to you in these two areas?
Mr. Scott: The problem is working the name in., We can
get "Savings" in nicely but "Guarantee(." comes
out pretty small. I don't know what value that
would be if you couldn't read the signs from a relatively close
distance. It is like your nameplate in front of you, I can see it
now but if I walk-through the room I may not see it.
Councilman Gillum: If we had some.areas of agreement, but
apparently we do not.. I am not sure in my
mind that you are freeway oriented, but as .I
stated to Council I am not sure where'we draw the line on freeway
oriented or not freeway oriented. If I were to go along with this
request I am concerned about what door:I have opened all the way down
the freeway. That is why I asked if we had an -area of agreement
in these first four points and apparently we haven't, so I can't
support the request for a variance.
Councilman Chappell: If we turn the variance down now, when must
he comply with the Sign Ordinance?
Mr. Munsell: If the variance is turned down he may maintain
his existing sign as it is until September 1970.
He may not add additional signage such as the
free formed letters oii the building nor the planter signs. Unless all
signs conform he may not add signage, even though the new signage
would conform with the exception of that one nonconforming sign.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Nichols, that
Variance request No. 646 - Guarantees Savings & Loan Association, be
denied. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell
NOES: Councilman Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
ABSENT: None
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THE CHAIR DECLARED A RECESS AT 9:30 P.M. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 9:45 P.M.
Motion by Councilman�Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd 'direct.ing.
staff to pursue a freeway'sign:.ardinance and present it back to City
Council in 60 days from now.
Councilman Nichols: I would like Councilman Chappell to explain
a little what he is proposing staff to do,so
I know whether I agree.or not.
Councilman Chappell: I am proposing that staff make a survey. of the
businesses oriented to the freeway and come
up with a guideline saying that this far from
the freeway and this type of business can be considered freeway
oriented and do draw business off of the freeway. Basically that is
what I am requesting.
Councilman Nichols:
to situations so that we
in tonight. I.agree.
Councilman Chappell:
You are asking the staff to review the area
of freeway oriented signage to see if there
is some objective criteria that can be applied
don't find ourselves in the situation we are
Also applying .on proposed freeway into our
community.
Mr. Wakefield: Mr. Mayor - I am sure,Council understands
the proposal initiated would have to go,firstf,
to the Planning Commission and then to the.
City Council.
Councilman Lloyd: I accept.
Motion carried.
CITY CLERK
1) Parade Permit Application - MSAC Vietnam Moratorium
Coalition and Valley for Peace
Mayor Gleckman: Is there anyone in the audience that might
like to speak on this issue? Is Mr. Stroud
in the audience? Is.there anyone in the
audience:..:that:can testify that Mr'. Stroud signed this application?
Is there anyone in the audience that can spe ak`to the application?
(No one.)
Linda Thompson I just wanted to say that I would try and
1725 Kwis make clear any questions that Council might
Hacienda Heights ask, and further emphasize a couple of
points. I am one member of the steering
Committee for the. MSAC Moratorium Coalition. Further I would like
to emphasize the fact they have for monitors and traffic control,
the Valley for Peace Organization and the Vietnam Valley Coalition
and several clergymen will be involved. Thank .you.
Darby Hayburn I am also President of the American Civil
1321 Mossberg Liberties group. I would like. to read a
West Covina short letter to the Council for their
consideration from the City of Arcadia, Police
Department, dated December 4th. "In response to your request I am
happy to be able to state the Arcadia Police Department experienced
no difficulty whatsoever with the Candlelight March.sponsored by the
Vietnam Moratorium Coalition -and Valley for Peace in Arcadia on
November 15, 1969. I would estimate between 450 and 500 persons,
young and old, participated in the March from the high school to the
park, a total of approximately one mile distance. In their program
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to the park itself there was no disorder among the participants and
those in charge of the march cooperated fully with the police in
making advance arrangements." Signed by R.'S. Sears; Chief of Police
of Arcadia.
I think it is an indication of the type of
• people that have been involved in the marches. I think they do
have a right to demonstrate.their feelings under the Constitution
in West Covina. There has been talk. of the disruption of traffic. Any
parade may do that•whether it is a Christmas Parade, a Chamber of
Commerce Parade, or any type of parade. It is one of those things
that the taxpayer evidently pays for and I am 'a taxpayer in the City
of West.Covina and willing to pay for all of those. At this time I
see no reason to deny it and I do feel, and our council at the ACLU
feels the arbitrary imposition of the $5,000 parade bond is very
probably unconstitutional. The ACLU is concerned because it appears
that the imposition.of this bond, arbitrarily as it was immediately
after the last application by MS students, really appeared to be an
infringement on free speech and it wasn't applied to other groups.
You may say that this group might cause trouble, or might drop a
cigarette butt, but it really isn't sufficient evidence to impose a
$5,000 bond. The previous march, as the Chief of Police of Arcadia
states, was very orderly. The only disturbances were by counter -
agitators® The newspaper article also indicates there was no problem.
We feel the Parade permit should be given without the imposition of
the $5,000 bond. If the bond is imposed,the ACLU Council will move in
to see if it is constitutional,or not. If there are any questions, I
will try and answer them, but I might state I am not an attorney.
Thank you.
Lillian Fine: I would like to call to the attention of.the
• 1210 So Robin Road Council,the fact that we have a precedent for
West Covina this type of activity in the City. About
two and a half years ago• I became aware of a
group in the community which was concerned with .this matter of Vietnam.
My first introduction was an article in the newspaper saying they
were going to have a Peace Motorcade demonstrating against the war.
I joined the motorcade and to the best of my knowledge there was no
deposit required of any kind. People came to a certain area with
their car, signs were put on the cars, and the Police of the City were
very cooperative. They moved ahead of the line of march and saw to
it that the march was unimpeded. They kept traffic moving along and
when we came to a corner with a red light they held traffic up so we
could go on through. There was no problem of any kind. That very
morning there was another parade demonstrating also,just before ours,
demonstrating in favor of the war and they had the same kind of
motorcade going and again there was no violence of any kind. People
stood along the lime of march and we felt they were -waving to us and
I suppose the other people felt they were waving to them, but the
point is there is this precedent for peaceful marches and peaceful
activity in this community® I feel this request should be granted,
particularly in view of the fact we did have this peaceful march
in Arcadia recently. I participated in it and it was a beautiful
march, a.beautiful expression on the part of those who participated.
I feel that it would not.be in keeping with the tenure and the
stature of the City of West Covina to deny the permit for this march,
which I assure you will be a very peaceful one. Thank you.
Shirley •DZieza... I wanted to put up the money for the $5,000
1123 Serenade.Avenue bond you required; I called all over Los
West Covina Angeles to different bondsmen and they all
stated it was a farce about a $5,000 bond.
My question is - who did you require it.from previous to this?
Louis Fine I want to address myself not to the con-
1210 So. Robin Road stitutionality of the ordinance itself but
West Covina I would like to address myself to the arbritari-
ness of the law. In reading the papers, and
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incidentally this is all I know is what I read in the papers; I read
,that Councilman Gillum was upset about the f act that one of the
.gentlemen refused to give the Pledge of Allegiance and I can under-
stand how Councilman Gillum felt in that respect. But let me tell
you.something about the flag. In this City there is a man who has a
flag pole that is, I think, as high as the one at the Fire Station,
and he flies it every day, but on the day that Bobby Kennedy was .
killed he did not fly that flag at all. On the day Martin Luther King
was killed he did not fly the flag. So shall we say.you can
disrespect the flag in many ways. In the position of the young mangy I
think he was showing his dissatisfaction in the way things were going
on.
Councilman Lloyd, I believe you said in
cancelling out the need.for the deposit:'_on the part of the.Chamber of
Commerce - .we are going to open up another Pandora's box - and I think
you are right. In regard to Mayor Gleckman, you stated and I am going
to paraphrase, that you would be willing to arrest anyone who creates a
problem. I would say this was unwarranted, because actually in this
respect it has never been on the violation of the marching group that
you have had trouble. I would say you have had trouble on the part
of those dissenting with the dissenters. It is my feeling that you do
not set up laws specifically to stifle dissent, and that is what this
kind of law does, it stifles dissent. I am going to appeal to the
f airmindedness of this Council, not to its emotional dissatisfaction
possibly with the dissenters, but with the right that they are
demanding of others and that is a proper respect for the--Constx.tut;ion.
- And that',as what; I --think'
.these .people are doirig:.and I include. myself,;
__.showing respect:. to: the. Constitution:,_.:,and ...ttyinq ito cvpicg
our right under the GDnstitution and we feel this council should respect
that right. Thank you.
Jim Thomas
Claremont I am the advisor to the Moratorium Committee -
MSAC. I would like to vouch for the motives
of these young people. They are a legitimate
group on the college, campus. I have sat in counsel with them and I
have been impressed by them as responsible young citizens. I see them
as responsible to their own intention here, to march nonviolently to
make witness. I vouch for that motiv$tion, I see them as responsible,
nonviolent,and concerned citizens.
Mrs..Bergman Members -of the West Covina Council lest you
426 South Leaf Avenue think that only the proponents of the Parade
West Covina permit application and the antagnostics of
your previous action are ever present in -the
Council Chambers, I would like to ask that the Council do consider
the actions of the very.same committee when they did not have a
parade on the particular day they had requested it and what action
they did take in distributing literature and the_.,prbtetts:.they did put
up; and as usual to make a decision that has the interests of the
majority of the citizens of the City in mind in making your decision
tonight. Thank you.
Mayor Gleckman: Let me just say the Council will hold dis-
cussion and there will be more comments and
if anyone just feels they can°.t sit still you
will be recognized by one of the Councilmen - now if there is anyone
that wishes to comment on something that has not yet been mentioned?
I wouldn't want to stifle free speech.
(COUNCIL DISCUSSION)
Mayor Gleckman: The only comment I wish to correct is
Mr. Fine°s. I did not say - anyone that
creates a problem, I said anyone that breaks the law will be arrested.
That is what I said and that is our responsibility.
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As far as the parade that took place - the
motorcade parade, this parade ordinance that says you must get a permit
at a fee of $25.00 was not in effect at the time that took place. If
anything)it helped to get Council to establish the Parade Ordinance
and that is exactly what happened. The other comment with regard to
the $5,000 bond - no,the City has never requested a $5,000 bond
• previously, but the City never had the experience of that type of
parade and never did get a request from an organization to march
during school hours, past our high schools, blocking traffic, and at
the expense of $1500 to the City. Now you may not agree with that
_but I am giving you the answer. We never had a request in the past
for it and we had no past experience.
Councilman Nichols: I think some of the comments tonight allude
more to the Council's action in connection
with a previous application rather than in
connection with this application. I don't think we are here tonight
as a body to defend, explain)or justify actions)on a prior issue.
I don't think any good purpose would be served by attempting to
disect,mot.ives of people or analyze literature that was dropped, or
reflect on the nature of protests. I think our job is to look at the
application that is." here tonight) and if I felt in reviewing this
application that there was a possibility that it would result in a
considerable cost to the City of West Covina then I would again favor
the imposition of a bond, and I would allow the courts to decide
whether the act was' legal or not. No ordinance,passed by this Council,
is passed except as recommended and approved by the City Attorney, and
Council acts only on that legal advice. Any act and any law that
Council makes is subject to challenge,so the fact that the ACLU or
someone else might come in and challenge the Council's action poses no
threat to the Councilor to meat all, we are always under the threat
of having our legislative actions challenged. That's what the name of
the game is all about.
With respect to this application, I have looked
at it carefully, read a very detailed staff report, who met with members
of the group. There are, in my mind)a number of significant differences
in this application as compared to the application previously requested
and I need not go into that in detail. Primarily, responsible adults
have stepped forward in this instance and will be playing a major role
in this march. It will be largely a pedestrian activity and largely
oriented to sidewalks. I see nothing wrong with this. I have no
suspicion that the people participating in this will cause any trouble
and I would see no reason to requesting a bond. I am fully prepared
to vote in favor of granting this application. I don't think there :are
any philosphical questions that need answering, but I would conclude
my remarks by saying that if another group of 20 people came in next
week with a request for a parade permit and I didn't think it was in
the best interests of all.of the citizens in this City.,I would do
exactly what.I did before. I am prepared to vote in favor `of.,this
application, I think it is'well delineated and should bring a
successful activity in terms of the philosphy of those people who are
conducting it.
Councilman Lloyd: I would concur with the remarks of Councilman
Nichols. I, too,,have had the opportunity to
chat with some of the people; I chatted by
phone with Mr. Thomas and enjoyed talking to you. I recognize the
decision of these individuals who express their views and I think
with the explanation of what occurred in Arcadia, I think it is
responsibly demonstrated here. As I tried to explain to some of the
people that contacted me by phone, you have to recognize that this body
does not sit up herein their "God -like" chambers, we are part of this
community and I am deeply offended when I read this type of literature
that was passed out. It is in very poor taste. I think on the other
hand you will find this body - the political legislative of this
community, does its level best to find consensus in the areas of that
which is best for the community, and I would reiterate the comments of
Councilman Nichols when I say we recogn2ze-that in the areas of civil
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liberties and civil rights that we are already preempted. We respond
to our constituency in this City as it is generally structured and we
try to arrive at that which is best .for the greatest number of people
in our area. I think you will find however that we may be constituted
conservatively or .liberally, we nevertheless/do honestly strive and
I emphasize this so that those of you who have already witnessed
some of the criticisms and accusations will recognize that each of the
individuals make their decision based on their total makeup, the
things they bring with them to this Council. These are difficult
things to set aside and become totally objective in every instance.
I wish we could provide the God1like qualities that we are sometimes
accused of, but we are indeed human and we recognize your desires.
I think it is important for you to express your opinions with regards
to this situation,just as other people express their opinions in
opposition to what you stand for. This is part of the democratic
action and I think it is important that the community allow the march
as proposed,irregardless of some of the stands by some of the people
that have felt that they were unduly put upon, that that legislative
action is a consensus action, it is something that ebbs and flows with
the overall pressures of the community and it is responsible to the
economics, the social structure of the community, as well as its
political makeup and it .is well for all of us to pay close attention
to that. This body does its .Level best to reflect what the community
desires and provide leadership towards obtainable goals and in the
final analysis each of us who sit up here must live with the word
called "pragmatic" politics - what is/ and not always with what appears
to be. I think it is .important for you to understand that.
Councilman Chappell: I have a couple of points that shou.ld,be
brought up at this time. I note the proposed
parade will end in Cortez Park, right next
to Cortez Park is Christ Lutheran Church and for the past many years
they have conducted services there starting at 7 - 9 and 11.. They
have a congregation of around 1800 people and need these services,
at this time of the year because they cannot all get .in at one time.
I am afraid, .as'`.the Pastor has pointed out, this march to Cortez Park
with a PA system might disturb the people in church who are doing
almost the same thing they are doing - making that evening a very
sacred time. -of the year. I certainly would not be in favor of
anything in Cortez Park that would disturb the services that have been
going on in this church for the many years that I have been here.
Perhaps my fellow councilmen. are not opposed to a peaceful march and
I am not either, but I would say we better review where this parade
is ending,in consideration of a .large number of our regular members
of the City and perhaps have .it end at some other location.
Councilman Gillum-. I am probably the one referred to mainly in
some of the comments and letters, so I am sure
you are interested in what I have to say. As
I said last time, I am as strongly opposed to the war as I am sure you
people are, and I think it is going on entirely too long, but
irrespective of that, and we do bring our personal feelings to this
Council - as you young people and adults bring your personal feelings
down here to express to use I would like to relate to Council and
you young people the reason I have said what I have and will continue
to say this evening. I had an opportunity to attend -a ACLU meeting
at Clifton's a few months ago and some of you people were participating,
and these things do make an impression - such as not saluting the flag,
but when I heard adults tell children and young people that there are
many things wrong with this Country, it does get under my skin.
Because, if it wasn't for this Country you wouldn't be able to walk
down the street and express your displeasure with the Government that
opens itself up to everything that happens. I have had long talks
with my daughter since her father took the stand he did and she tells
me young people come up to her in high school and make the most
filthy remarks that,I have ever heard from young people - but if that
is the way you want to conduct yourselves - be my guest. The last
time it was pointed out to us that you people are college students and
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know the Bill of Rights, and I am sure you do, but it is unfortunate
that. you can't express yourself without using four letter words. And.
this disturbs me greatly. I have had a number of people in the
community - taxpayers, as I am, say they are not willing to pay the
bill and I am inclined to agree with them, but it seems like I am in
the minority, and I am notquestioning the right of my fellow council-
men to their opinions. I have had a number of people say they feel the
expenditure of funds for this type of demonstration parade is depriving
them of certain things within the community that are needed. I will
state again that I do agree with you that the war has gone on long
enough, I do agree it is something we should not have been involved in,
but I do disagree stxongly with the methods being used across this
.Country to try and change the .laws out in the middle of the streets
instead of by due process, of which we are all given the right to use
to try and change things. I do support the President and his policies
for trying to end the war, but I am afraid again this time I will vote
""no" on the parade permit, even though I do agree that this time it is
better organized. I sincerely feel there are many people in the
community that feel as I do-, they don't want to have to spend the funds
necessary for protection by the police. I think Christmas is a very
poor time for this parade, this is probably the one time in the year
when there is agreement throughout the world and my own personal
opinion i.s that the time could be better spent in that area on Christmas
Eve than trying to sway the.pol.icy of the Government. I am sorry that
our Government and our society has reached the point that I hear adults
tell young people, who are going to be the future leaders of our nation,
that this nation is absolutely wrong and the laws are wrong and we will
give you a pamphlet to tell you how to beat the cops when they come to
Pick you up on the street - it is called "Curbstone Justice." I think
it is tragic that our Country and our Government has reached this point
and now I am sure that in some letters to the editor or in some
editorial in the college paper, the college supported by taxpayers,
that some reference will be made to my Godlike attitude - or my ultra-
conservative feelings, and that is your privilege, but it does concern
me greatly'that this continues and continues. So, therefore, as I have
in the past, I will continue this evening and vote "no" for this permit.
.Mayor G.leckmano I would like to comment that I believe the
expressions and the comments and the beliefs
stated by the members of Council are sincere,
whether you agree with them or not. All I ask is that you give them
the same consideration that you are asking us to give to your feelings
and thoughts. If this Council wanted to stop 'this.march we have within
our legal. means, if not. the $5,000 bond, a section in the Vehicle Code
that would cover this, because it .is Christmas Eve. We do have a
recommendation, and I am now quoting - "it is Christmas Eve and due to
traffic and the number of drinking drivers on the roads at that
period....."". The date of December 24th is recommended for denial and
under this section in the Vehicle Code it could be denied. We also had
a request from the church that is in close proximity to Cortez Park,
stating they conduct their services each year at this time and request-
ing,that this parade be denied. So we do have people requesting denial.
There is no doubt in my mind that if there was a vote taken in the City
as to whether a function of this type should take place, the outcome
would be close, depending on how strong they felt one way or the other,
and how many people we could get out to the polls.
I do think you have a constitutional right to
march and I am not denying that or questioning your right,.but with that
right goes "responsibility." I agree with Mr. Nichols, that this parti-
cular parade request presents a far different picture than the last
.parade permit request, and the $5,000 bond was not and is not required
to prevent you from marching, in spite of what you might think. With
the help of the ACLU,'if you had wanted to march, all you had to do was
go to a Judge
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and get an injunction and you could have marched legally. You didn't
need a bond or anything else and I am sure you people out there, being
familiar with the law as -you are, as well as the adults, that had you
wanted to march this Council couldn't have stopped you. So I don't
think you wanted to march too badly, that is number one. Number two,
it is my opinion only because there was a legal right and a legal
lk) manner in which you could have -taken an approach and marched, but you
did:p°t,•now maybe the $5,000 bond gives you the right to insinuate
as to the motives of this Council, but believe me it wasnat requested -
to s.top:.the march,, all we were concerned with at the time was pro-
tecting the health and welfare of the taxpayers of this community
that would be.objecting to a march that would impede trafficjthat we
did not have the facilities to handle the crowd you anticipated pro-
ducing, which would necessitate an expenditure of $1500 out of the
city°s funds, expended strictly as a precautionary measure.
If this permit is granted, I hope it will be
coordinated with the Police Department and that the people will be
out of the park by 11 so as not to interfere with the services being
conducted at the nearby church. I hope you arrive at the scheduled
time and that you do show consideration for the people in and around
the park with regard- to loudspeakers, music, talk, etc. I would be
willing to go along not only with granting the permit but showing you
the same consideration that we showed the Junior Chamber of Commerce
by waiving the $5,000 bond,
Councilman Chappell: There is one thing - the Lutheran Church
services start at 7, at 9 again, and at 11
again, and if there is a loudspeaker system
in the park, a group of people talking,' etc., they are going to
disrupt the church services and I feel that this is not the place to
end the march. These people have as much right to their thinking
as the marchers have to theirs.
Mayor Gleckman: Miss Thompson - when you say Candlelight
Silent vigil - what is going to take place
in the park?
Miss Thompson: There.will be people arriving at the head of
the procession, so we have provided for small
discussion groups to take place, as well as
individual folk guitarists, which will not be over the PA system, that
we later plan to use. In consideration of the Lutheran Church,we were
planning to march on the opposite side of the street that they are on
and be very quiet,because it is a silent vigil and take our gathering
to the southside of the park, which is away from the church. As far
as holding up traffic we had not planned,to stop traffic at major
intersections - the march will be single file on the sidewalks.
Councilman Nichols: A further observation. There is always a lot of
discussion about constitutional rights. I
noticed both in the letters to Council and to
the press and in allegations made, that the Council's action at the
previous parade permit request was a denial to the right of dissent.
I would like everyone here tonight to keep .in mind that this Council
at no time has ever denied anyone the right of dissent. This Council
at no time has ever denied the right to gather and protest in the
parks of this City. The only denial of this Council was of a parade
permit without a bond. The constitution provides the right of
peaceable protest and assembly. It does not give you the right to
parade down the public streets and sidewalks of a City, and only if
a governmental agency is preventing the right to assemble,'as
happened in Los Angeles at 20th Century Fox City, has the courts
held that the government could not interfere with the movements on
the sidewalks. I hope really and very sincerely,that we have heard
the end of the talk that this Council has prevented citizens or people
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from dissenting or protesting or assemblying. The only issue ever
before this Council,. where there was a tentative -negative was on the
matter of the parade down the street. So let's keep the record clear
and let's ask for as much fairness in our reporting and in our
comments as you expect to receive from your elected officials.
Mr. Mayor, I think the answer to the matter
of the location to the church has been answered to my satisfaction.
I think it is as formal as Council can get.
Councilman Lloyd: Miss Thompson - you spoke of groups gathering
and some sort of discussion groups and guitar
playing?
Miss Thompson: Yes, individual guitar playing which does not
have amplifiers and small discussion groups with
out the use of a PA system. The PA system will
only be used for the speakers.
Councilman Lloyd: Can you give Councilman Chappell at that point
assurance that the rights of those 1500+ people
at church will be able to gather there without
interference from the marchers - can you assure him that this would be
so?
Miss Thompson: I,speaki-hg for mysel•f,� as a member of the
moratorium Committee of MSAC, would like to
assure you that this would be so, because I
believe as you people do that we each have our individual rights to
express and show that expression of what we believe in and feel, in a
manner that does not interfere or inhibit anyone else from doing so
and I believe by holding our gathering on the southside of the park
that we can reasonably assure you this will happen.
Councilman Chappell: You are aware that there are no lights in the
park, so to speak.
Miss Thompson: There will be candlelight and I am not exactly
clear as to what was planned for lights,
because I personally thought there were lights,
but I am sure we can work something out.
Mrs. Fine: I am not sure what their official plans are,
but speaking for what happened in Arcadia, 'we
had large floodlights planned and before the
event took place they had been destroyed by ,some people, so we were
there with candles only, no lights, and the'people at the podium used
flashlights. So a function of this kind can take place in the dark
with the 'use of candles.
Councilman Chappell:
Did they
have a PA'system in Arcadia?
Mrs. Fine:
Yes they
did, but I don't know what they are
planning
to use here.
Councilman Lloyd:
Mr. Aiassa do you have any comments on this?
Mr. Aiassa:
I talked
to Deputy Chief Shade this evening
and according to information received from him,
they are
going to have.a PA system between 10
and 11 .-u:sing..louds-.i)eake.rs:o ..:..';.
Is this part of the request?
Miss Thompson: I probably should have clarified. At the
beginning we would only have small groups of
people discussing and individual guitar playing -
not using the PA system. Later between 10 and 11 we will have speakers
using the PA system. This will take place on the south side of the park.
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s
Mr. Aiassa: I think Council should realize that this is
in a residential area and the park itself is
lending itself on three sides to residential
people, in addition: -to .the church) and if something is going on with
several hundred people in attendance between 10 and 11 and probably
beyond, because they don't usually break up right on time - there are
going to be some problems unless someone.is specifically in charge and
plans are made in advance as to what you are going to do and how it
is going to be done. These little discussion groups can very quickly,
depending on whose nomenclature we are using, become a big problem.
So what I want to know -who is coordinating this group and who is the
spokesman? The man that filed the petition isn't here tonight?
The point I am making is that I have been in contact with.Mr. Myers
and he said Mr. Thomas would be here representing him tonight so is
Mr. Thomas going to be our principal liaison man to meet with staff
and discuss the program?
Mr. Thomas:
as advisor to
and advisors
to you?
Mr. Aiassa:
I apologize for the President of the group'
not being present tonight. My role is
advisor and I am responsible to the college
the group. Groups as a rule are fairly autonomous
act only as advisors. Are you asking me to be liaison
or three people
staff, meet and
church.
Miss Thompson:
What I am.trying to develop is some kind of
communication. I can4t communicate with the
entire group. We must develop a core of two
from MSAC and 2 or 3 from the group along with my
determine the procedure, so we don't disturb the
We will be happy to cooperate. I might say
that this will be a nondenominational peace
service that will take place.
Councilman Gillum: The speakers that are going to speak, may I
ask who they are and where they are from?
Miss Thompson: They will be clergymen'but I am not prepared
to give the names at this time.
Councilman Gillum: It wouldn't be the same group that spoke at
that rally at Nt,.Sac xecently.
Miss Thompson: No.
Mr. Aiassa: As I understand it the speakers will be
allowed to use the PA system and who will
be selecting them? Wiil this Committee of
laymen have a chance to know how many speakers you are going to have
and what interval of time you will be discussing so we know when the
park will be evacuated?
Miss Thompson: Yes and the park will'be evacuated by 11.
Motion by Councilman Nichols that the Vietnam Moratorium Committee
be given permission to conduct a march on December 24, 1969,.between
the points of Orangewood Park, Cameron Park and Cortez Park, as per
the permit application on file with the City of West Covina, and
that the bond requirement and permit fee application, both be waived.
Seconded_by Councilman Lloyd. Motion carried'on roll call vote as
follows:
AYES: Councilmen Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor.dleckman
NOES: Councilman Gillum
ABSTAIN: Councilman Chappell
ABSENT: None
Mayor Gleckman: I would only like to add that what I have
been previously accused of I will continue to
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CITY CLERK.(Parade Permit Application) Cont'd.
maintain and that is if the law is broken I will expect the Police
Department to carry out its duties. And again I would like to
compliment the people that came this evening on this item�for the
manner in which they conducted themselves.
2) Request of Dennis Stroud
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that the parade permit fee in connection with the previous
parade application by Dennis Stroud, Chairman of Vietnam Moratorium
Committee, be refunded.
THE CHAIR CALLED FOR A RECESS AT 10:45 P..-M. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 10.55 PM.
HEARINGS - Cont'd.
AMENDMENT NO.103:_.
CITY INIVAT.ED
HELD -OVER
REQUEST a proposed amendment to
the Zoning Ordinance creating a new
section to provide for planned
residential developments in the
residential zones. Recommended by
Planning Commission Resolution #2209.
(Mr. Munsell read Planning Commission Resolution No. 2209; slides shown
and explained.)
Councilman Chappell: I would like to move that we table
this item, because I think it is too
late to start working on it at 11 p.m.
I think if we could have it at an early time on the agenda we could give
it the consideration needed.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and
carried, that Amendment No. 103 be put on the agenda of the regular
meeting of December 22, 1969, with hearing held over.
PRECISE PLAN NO. 574 LOCATION: North side of Walnut Creek
FOTOMAT CORPORATION Parkway between California and
APPROVED Sylvan Avenues.
REQUEST approval of a precise plan
of design for a drive -through film service in the parking lot of the
Stardust Bowl. Recommended by Planning Commission Resolution No. 2179.
Called up by Council on August 11, 1969. Set for Public Hearing on
September 8, 1969. Referred back to Planning Commission for review.
Planning Commission reaffirms its decision.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Munsell do you have any further comments
to add to the report we have?
Mr. Munsell: No, the Planning Commission indicated they
could find no major problems other than what
they initially reviewed and reaffirmed their
decision and sent the matter back to City Council.
THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON PRECISE PLAN NO.574.
IN FAVOR
Ferry Toland (Sworn in by City Clerk)
Fotomat Corporation The last time the only thing that seemed to
16906 Bellflower Blvd. be in question with this body, was when a
Bellflower, Calif. redevelopment of the property may come along
in 3 - 5 years. In our lease it so states
that when this property is redeveloped our lease is null and void.
Thank you.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC TESTIMONY, PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED. COUNCIL
DISCUSSION. - 28 -
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HEARINGS (Precise Plan No. 574) Cont'd.
Page Twenty-nine
•
Councilman Lloyd: I believe one of thb objections we had last
time was the f act that this would create a
traffic hazard and I recognize in the report
tonight that staff and the Planning Commission does not feel it will
create a traffic hazard. I am not favorably disposed to this project,
not because I am against private enterprise or because what you are
doing is bad or immoral, but I honestly believe this type of activity
takes away from our small individual business people in the City . I
feel very strongly this takes away from our own commercial enterprises
and also it falls directly into an area where our small local
businessman is hurt. This franchising activity that goes on is very
profitable for larger corporations, but to the little individual
guy it does damage, he can't meet the competition, but unfortunately
that is not germane to the issue. The issue is - is the zoning
proper and can you put that usage in that zone. So as a result -.I
still feel it offers a problem and I wonder if there is another zone
this might fall into? Did we not discuss such.a zone?
Mayor Gleckman: We did discuss such usages being put under the
Unclassified Use Permit, but I don't believe
this has been passed.
Mr. Wakefield: No, it was acted upon by Council at the last
meeting and introduced tonight.
Councilman Nichols:. I think that the return to Council of this
item by the Planning Commission with an
unanimous vote by them and the staff report,
with disavowal of the traffic congestion that Council was concerned
with, rather takes away my objection. I can no longer see a legitimate
reason for rejection on my part, so I will vote to approve it.
Councilman Gillum: I am inclined to go along with Mr. Lloyd's
thinking, but apparently staff and the Planning
Commission do not feel that it causes a problem
and that it does meet all the requirements, so therefore I,am compelled
to support it. I do -along with what Mr. Lloyd says, but under the
circumstances I would have to vote for the zoning as it meets the
requirements called out in the code.
Mayor Gleckman: I would comment that I am the strong advocate
in trying to eliminate,any drive-in, drive-thru
usages within the City. I don't think - unless
they are done under the Unclassified Use Permit so they would come
before Council, that I am in favor of these usages. Had this come
before us under an Unclassified Use Permit in this particular location
I would vote against it.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that City
Council approve Precise Plan No. 574. Motion carried on roll call vote
as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell`
NOES: Councilman Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
ABSENT: None
STREET VACATION OF A CERTAIN LOCATION: California Avenue & San
PORTION OF CALIFORNIA AVENUE Bernardino Freeway.
PROTEST.. HEARING
HELD OVER Hearing of protests or objections
set for August 11, 1969, by Reso-
lution No. 4014, adopted on July 9,
1969. Held over with hearing held open to October 14, 1969; to
October 27, 1969; to.November 10, 1969;•to November 24, 1969, and con-
tinued to this date.
Motion.by:'._Counc.ilman_.Chap.pell, seconded by Cquncilman_Nichols, and carried
to. continue. this -item to. December...22,, 1969.
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Reg. C.C. 12-8-69
Page thirty
MASTER PLAN OF STREETS
CITY INITIATED
LOCATION: Various throughout the City
APPROVED REQUEST: Approval of a proposed
Master Plan of Streets
for the City of West
• Covina showing existing and proposed streets and designating their
major classifications and right-of-way widths to serve�as a guide for
future -right-of-way acquisitions. Continued from September 8, 1969,
to this date with hearing held open. Engineer's Report reviewed.
Mr. Munsell: I think that with your permission perhaps
the City Engineer, George Zimmerman,
could address himself to the Master Plan
of Streets in a little bit better manner than I can at this point.
Mr. Zimmerman: Mr. Mayor and members.of the Council,
this slide shows the general format for
implementing a street system in West
Covina. It starts out with the General Plan, and, as you remember,
part of the General Plan was a study by a Traffic Consultant which
resulted in a Traffic Report - a Gravity Model Study —which has
subsequently been approved by the Planning Commission and the City
Council. The second step in this program, which is shown on the slide
and which we're -discussing tonight, is the Master Plan of Streets.
The Master Plan of Streets supports and is based on the General Plan
already approved by the Council and also on the Traffic Studies. A
third step in identifying a program for the City would be to precise
the location and widths of the various street alignments which are
not already in existence, such as West Covina Parkway and.Amar Road,
which will require further study to exactly locate as to widths and
alignments. The fourth step in the actual identification of a street
would be the actual right-of-way acquisition and construction plans.
This next slide simply shows the General Plan already approved and
indicates the same -street system which is shown later on in the Master
Plan of Streets. The next slide is a rendering showing in color the
various street widths and systems in the Master Plan of Streets as
approved by -the Planning Commission in the latter part of August and
presented to the City Council in the -early part of September. If
you'll remember at that time, the City Council held further consider-
ation of this matter over for 90 days and established an Ad Hoc
Committee to study certain policies regarding right-of-way acquisition.
This Committee has held certain meetings and is in fact at the present
time considering the matter further for the right-of-way acquisition
.and other policies.
There are basically four widths of streets,
outside of the Freeway. Aside from the 8 Lane ... very little 8 Lane
proposed... there's the 6 Lane Divided, the 4..Lane Divided, and the
4 Lane Undivided, and the 2 Lane, of course, Undivided.. We have
certain further. identifications. One is between the dash lines which
indicate streets the location of which is not exactly determined,
and solid lines which indicate streets which location is presently in
existence and any further work would consist only of widening and in
some cases, such as, Azusa Avenue and this area ... they'are already
widened to the widths shown on the Master Plan. So, again, just to
give you a brief outline of some of the street widths involved,
Grand Avenue would be a 6 Lane, Citrus Street'would be a 6 Lane,
Hollenbeck would be a 4 Lane, Azusa 6 Lanes, Glendora 6 Lanes, a
portion of Francisquito 6 Lanes, Amar Road 6 Lanes, West Covina Parkway
6 Lanes and most of the streets to a smaller width than that:'
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Master Plan of Streets (Cont.)
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Zimmerman, I have just one question.
. When you say 6 Lanes, does that make it
a standard width or does a 6 Lane Road
vary in width?
Mr. Zimmerman: The width that we propose for a 6 Lane
and identify -on the Master Plan as a
6 Lane Street, Councilman Gillum, is
110 ft. of right-of-way and inside of
that is a 90 ft. curb to curb street with a 14 ft. median width for
left turn slot, etc.
Councilman Gillum: Fine
Mr. Zimmerman: Again, we get back to the second slide
shown to you, just to orient the Master
Plan in the scheme of things. It supports
the General Plan and is based upon the Traffic Studies of the General
Plan. It's number two in a program which winds up between the
General Plan and final accomplishment of the street construction on
the ground. The third step would follow this after approval of the
Master Plan and would consist of locating exact widths and alignments
of the streets. And the fourth step is the actual right-of-way
acquisition and construction and the plans for that. This concludes
my presentation.
THE CHAIR DECLARED THAT THIS �IS:�.THE:;TIME..AN,D.:PLACE:.F.OR�;THE':CONT:INUATION
.OF THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING."THE:.MASTER"PLAN OF STREETS':AND.THAT
ANYONE MAY, TESTIFY IN_FA:VOR OF'.OR;;.,�IN:OPPOSIT`ION:"TO THIS 'MATTER:''.,^
THERE BEING NO ONE PRESENT'DESIRING TO TESTIFY FOR OR AGAINST THE
MATTER THE CHAIR .DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION:
Councilman Lloyd: One of the things that comes to mind is
the change of street names. This is a
point I feel strongly about throughout
all.of the Cities. Why the change in names? And the next question
is have we coordinated on the naming of streets with other cities
so we don't have to go from,say,Irwindale to Sunset without trying
to figure out which street is which?
Mr. Zimmerman: My main statement with that is that we
are not too well prepared to discuss
street names. They were not studied
as part of the Master Plan program. While it is certainly a
_pertinent point, I think it was handled previously through the
Planning Committee of'the E.S.G.V. I remember; several years ago,
going to meetings and discussing what you were speaking of.
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:Master Plan of Streets (Cont.)
Mr. Zimmerman: I think the names are .mainly handled by
(Cont.) the Planning Commissions and are recom-
mended from time to time for a change.
• One time we did get Azusa -Avenue changed
to carry all the way down to the Pomona Freeway, so efforts have been
made, however the Master Plan has not come into that area.
Councilman Lloyd: One of the things that comes to mind is
that itdoes create a great problem for
people that have stationery, return
address envelopes, etc., and I think even the publication of this map
becomes in the mind of many people something that is set, and although
I have no objection to the names of the streets, I think before we
publish anything of this nature some sort of contact should be made
with the cities asking do you concur with these names, we are favor-
ably disposed, how do you feel, etc. I think this is an important
part of it because from here on.out I think the dynamics and growth
of this City is such that it requires attention to this type of detail
because it can be most onerous to some one to come into this City and
have this shift in numbers and shift in street names and I feel this
is one of the ways you say to a person - "you:are really welcome
hereF`
Mayor Gleckman: Councilman Nichols and myself sat as
liaison to this particular item, not from
the standpoint of recommending as to its
adoption, but that once it was recommended for adoption how we would
go ahead and acquire rights -of -ways without putting clouds on people's
properties by adopting this type of program. The Planning Commission
and Planning Staff are going to come to the Council with a recommend-
ation and at that time we will make the determination as to what
methods the City should take in order to acquire the necessary land
we might need to implement this plan. For a general guide, and this
is really what it is, I as one member of the liaison committee would
like to recommend to Council to adopt the Master Plan of Streets and
Highways.
Councilman Nichols: I think you said it very well, Mayor,
and as a general guide, I would agree.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried,
that the Master Plan of Streets be adopted as submitted as a general
guide.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
CITY MANAGER
Is Sign Advisory Committee Minutes
(Items considered individually by Council)
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman.Chappell, and
carried, to accept and file.
Mayor Gleckman: For the record, I did notice within the
minutes that there is a recommendation that
a sign come up to us by way of a variance.
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CITY MANAGER - Cont°d.
Mrs. Stone (Letter)
Page Thirty—three
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, authorizing, the City Engineer to proceed with the prepara-
tion of plans and specifications under the 1911 Act, Short Form
resolutions for the construction of curb, gutter and street improve-
ments at the northwest corner of Francisquito and Walnut Avenue.
UP -DATING CITY°S ECONOMIC DATA
Motion by Councilman Nichols,, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, authorizing the City Manager to commence negotiations with
Mr. McCann for the economic data report, with representatives from the
Chamber of Commerce, and prepare and submit their recommendation to
the City Council.
11 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE QUARTERLY REPORT
Councilman Lloyd: I thought it was a very fine report and well
prepared.
Councilman Nichols: A.question to Mr. Strachan.. I noticed in the
report there was a statement that the :Save -Co
people were about to go out of business and that they were prevailed
upon to stay under their new name Cal -Co. Is that in fact the same
organization?
Mr. Strachan: Yes, it is the same ownership.
Councilman Nichols: There was quite a spread in the newspapers
showing the new organization.
Mayor Gleckman: I am very familiar with the owners of this
organization and this was a store their
organization had acquired and kept the name
until they made a decision whether to convert that store to their
operation or sell the property including the store. After meetings
with the City Manager, the Chamber of Commerce and myself, they
decided to spend some $200,000 in redoing the store and stayed.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carried, to receive and file the quarterly report from the Chamber of
Commerce.
JOINT PAPER DRIVE
Y.W.C.A.' and WEST COVINA JR. WOMAN°S CLUB
Mr. Aiassa: You do have a written report and there is nothing
further to add. I think we can probably work
out some satisfactory arrangement with the group.
You have the outline of what is being proposed.
Motion by Councilman Nich6�s.a'.sec6nded_ b�/.::Council.man Lloyd, and carried,
accepting staff recommendation.
ORCHESTRA FUNDING REPORT
Mr. Aiassa: You do have a staff report. I will be glad to
give an oral report, if Council prefers. The
problem of financing is going to be a little difficult. I would like to
point out to Council to raise $3400 in the middle of the year is not the
simplest thing to do. Staff and myself would be willing to raise half
on the condition that the first of the year by'popular support the group
can raise the other half required so we know that by popular accord it is
an activity that is to be continued. The request was for $900.00 now
.for immediate needs Iwith an annual expense of $3750.
Councilman Nichols: In terms of this request, it is approximately
the first of the year, so I would strongly
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CITY MANAGER (:Item 6) Cont'd.
suspect that relative to people coming forward in support of this plan
by the first of the year would not be possible. So I would rather take
a direct approach and say that we cannot fund it this fiscal year but
will give it priority consideration in next year's budget. I would
rather do that than take a Mickey -Mouse approach and inadvertently kill
it.
Councilman Chappell: I had a little different approach to it. Due
to the fact that a recommendation like this
would take -a::.-- length of time to develop and
put together, that the City Manager's suggestion of half the money now
and the rest of it later, might really be what we are looking for,
because they wouldn't be able to get off the ground before the next
budget year and by that time they might have something going and maybe
we would even have some concerts going during the summer months.
Councilman Nichols: You are saying to appropriate the $1700. now
with the understanding that we would revie w
for further appropriation in next year's budget.
Mr. Aiassa: On one condition that we have them meet us and
match that fund for the rest of the year.
Councilman Nichols: I would not be prepared to make a commitment
like that. I didn't realize we were going to
demand matching funds. I don't know that we
should. I wouldn't want to take a firm position now.
Councilman Lloyd: My immediate reaction to the whole thing is,
and I think I am probably as contributory to
1 the problems that the City Manager faces in
this City/ and that is I think if we were to take a more professional
approach we simply have to start paying attention to these budgetary
items. I am very much for this type of thing, we sorely need it, but
I thin]-, Councilman Nichols, comments in this case were truly germane
because to come off -half cock we may misfire, and this in no way pre-
cludes.our saying to these people we want:this'.as part of our community.
think these .comments made here should be made available to this group
and there is nothing to prevent these people from using Recreation &
Park;facil.it.ies, or better still. School facilities, to hold a meeting,
see`who is interested, present the problem of raising money, etc., and
they can solidify some of their requests too. The program will be just
as good when we are better able to carry it, rather than stagger under
a load at the present moment.
Mayor Gleckman: My only comment would be that the suggestion
for West Covina Symphony Orchestra has been
a long time coming; we could have used this
quite sometime ago and I am sure we can use it in the future and I
would like to have a member of the Council, or take on the responsibility
myself, to seek out the people interested. in this and before taking any
action on it, or turning it down, discuss -with them the suggestion of
the City Manager and see:'.--,..- if they can: come up with some money, see
what they will be willing to do. I have heard several comments from
people in the community and I understand that many activities similar
to this are funded by the people and not by the City. I would like an
indication from the group as to what their feelings would be on this
rather than just supported by city .funds.
Councilman Nichols: I think that is an excellent suggestion. That
will preclude closing off the matter and leave
developments. it open for some support this year based on
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, directing
the Mayor.to contact the Chairman of the Recreation & Park Commission
and jointly meet with those people who have expressed an interest
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CITY MANAGER (Item 6) Cont°d.
Page Thirty-five.
in this area to explore the areas of financing as relating to the
City°s limitations.
Mayor Gleckman: I would ask that permission be granted for the
use of this room for their meeting, so it would
be a City of West Covina sanctioned type
activity.
Motion carried.
TOPICS PROGRAM
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, approving the selection of Mr. I. L. Morhar, Los Angeles
County Road Commissioner, as Coordinating Agent for the urban area of
which West Covina is a part.
o DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE - Census Agreement
Mr. Aiassa: All we need is a motion by Council authorizing
the Mayor and City Clerk to execute the agree-
ment.
So moved by Councilman Chappell, seconded by
Councilman Lloyd, and carried.
RESOLUTION NO. 4076 The City Manager presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
APPROVING THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE OF THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CITY OF WEST
COVINA FOR A POPULATION ESTIMATED"
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
Moti.one.:by::Caun'dilman.Gillum,.:.seconded by Councilman Lloyd, adopting
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
...: -J-AYES-o :Count ilmern::Gi1lum., Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENT
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, authorizing the appointment of Ross Nammar at the B step
of the Administrative Analyst range ($807) per month, based upon the
superior training and education required as minimum qualifications
for this position.
ZONE VIOLATION NOTICE
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
that this informational item be received and filed.
MAYOR'S REPORTS
Mayor Gleckman: I do have a couple of Resolutions to present.
RESOLUTION NO. 4077
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
SUPPORTING THE HOLIDAY SAFETY PROGRAM OF THE GREATER LOS ANGELES
CHAPTER OF THE NATIONAL SAFETY PROGRAM."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolutirn.
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MAYOR'S REPORTS - Cont°d.
Page Thirty-six
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, adopting
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
0 PROCLAMATION
Mayor Gleckman: We do have a request to proclaim "A Month of
Hope for the People of Biafra" - December, 1969;
also "A Day of,Prayer for the People -of Biafra" December 21, 1969. If
there is no objection, I will so proclaim.
No objections, so proclaimed.
RESOLUTION NO. 4078 The Mayor presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
COMMENDING MALCOLM EATON FOR HIS
SERVICES TO THE CITY."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
Motion.by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and
carried, adopting said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, directing
the perma plaquing of said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call
vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT:, None
Councilman Lloyd: I would bring up that this type of award and
presentation - there is no requirement to all
of a sudden give one every year or every
period of time. This is a meritorious thing which is determined only
by the performance of the individual. (Council agreed.)
Mayor Gleckman: For the record I would like to state General
Telephone saiq beginning November 28, 1969,
users in this area will be able to call toll
free, Walnut area prefixes of 595 and 598, and it is emphasized that
the area code first must be dialed. At least they .are getting a
little extra service.
I will hold over to the next meeting, but for
Councils information, if you have any names of any adults that you
would like to suggest serving on a committee that would bring back to
this Council the outlines for setting up a Youth Advisory Council, I
would like the names submitted before our next Council meeting.
We have a request from the West Covina Jaycees
that they would like to increase the amount of vehicles and people
participating in their parade. It was an official request in writing.
What is your pleasure?
Motion -by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, approving the request.
Mayor Gleckman: For the record I might add that the Jaycees
will uphold the law. If there is any breaking
of the laws, the Police Department will so
enforce.
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n'PMArmc
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, approving
the payment of demands totalling $337,241.82 as listed on demand
sheets C666 through C670 and payroll reimbursement sheet. This total
includes a time certificate deposit in the amount of $100,000.00.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mayor Gle.ckman: Mr. Aiassa - I would like to compliment
Chief Sill and his staff for the report and
manner in which the petition from the
Roxbury - Shadydale neighborhood has been handled.
Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Mayor, there is need for a joint study
session with the Planning Commission prior to
the February 16th meeting, and because of the
Holidays I wonder if the Council wants to set the date for the study
session. (Council, discussed and agreed to the date of January 5, 1970,
at 7:30 P.M.
RESOLUTION NO. 4079 The City Manager presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
COMMENDING SUPERVISOR FRANK G.
BONELL.I."
Is Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
•
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Gillum, adopting
said Resolution, and further directing the perma plaqueing of the
Resolution. Motion carried by roll call vote as follows:
AYES; Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell., and
carried, adjourning this meeting at 11:50 P.M.
ATTEST:
CITY CLERK
APPROVED;
MAYOR
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