03-24-1969 - Regular Meeting - Minutesn
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
MARCH 241 1969.
The regular meeting of the City Council called to order by
Mayor Leonard S. Gleckman at 7:30 p.m., in the Council Chambers at
West Covina City Hall. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by'
Councilman Chappell. The invocation was given by Dr. Roy Bullock of
Delhaven Christian Church.
RnT,T, CAT,T,
Present: Mayor Leonard S. Gleckman; Councilmen Ken Chappell,
Russ Nichols, Tom Gillum, and Jim Lloyd.
Also Present: George Aiassa, City Manager
George Wakefield, City Attorney
Lela Preston, City Clerk
Owen Menard, Planning Director
George Zimmerman, Ass't. City Engineer
John Q. Adams, Planning Commission Chairman
Robert Nordstrom, Recreation & Park Commission Chairman
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
March 10, 1969
- Approved as submitted.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
accepting the minutes of March 10, 1969 as published.
PRESENTATION BY JOHN ADAMS, CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION - Re. WORKSHOP PROGRAM ADOPTED BY PLANNING COMMISSION
John Q. Adams, Chairman (In summary)
West Covina Planning Commission 1"Ir.- Menard has transmitted'a written
809 South Terri Ann Drive report on the work program for the
next 6 months which summarizes the
more important things we will be considering, also setting forth some
of the accomplishments we have accomplished in the last six months.
I would point ou�that some of the items you
see in the report are a continuation of the work going on now and will
go on for awhile longer. The updating of our zoning ordinances is a
continual project and we are now going into the residential and multiple
family and then the residential uses. We have back for some additional
studies major areas of concern, the Merced -Orange Plan and the Glendora
Avenue Phase I study. I might bring you up-to-date very quickly on these
two items. Glendora I -.Mr. Menard presented several alternates at our
last meeting last Wednesday night and he was directed to proceed with
• informal sessions with those people that have appeared before us at our
meetings and who expressed an interest in this subject. This work is
continuing and meetings will be held with the people. A similar
procedure is being followed on the Merced/Orange Plan. Mr. Menard
was directed to meet with the interested people in informal sessions
and go over this - the pros and cons of the plan as originally proposed.
(Explained the procedure followed)
You will note some new items on the Work
Program. The more significant ones: Planned Unit Development Ordinance;
(Explained the need for this type of program). We are concurrently
working on the Hillside Ordinance and a Grading Ordinance. These may
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PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENTATION OF WORK PROGRAM
feasibility study. As a result of the General Plan studies we are now
undertaking some new programs, a Master Plan of Streets and Highways;
a Capital Improvements Program, Development of Policies on Street-
Improvements.
In connection with the General Plan which is
a continuing effort, since our last presentation to you we have had
one public hearing held at Hollencrest some six weeks ago. We thought
the plan was well received. Our next hearing will be April 16th at
Wescove. We delayed quite a bit from our original hearing for purposes
of giving the staff time to answer questions from the different groups.
Mr. Menard has met on several occasions with groups of 40 to 50 people.
We foresee a need for one more hearing somewhere north of the Freeway,
in that general area. Depending on the response at that time I would
think we will hold a final hearing on the General Plan somewhere
towards the end of May and then present it to Council for consideration.
We are gratified by the response we are getting to the General Plan, and
the other major studies. I would attempt at this time to answer any'
questions or receive any comments or suggestions.
Mayor Gleckman: I would like to know from the City Attorney
when we are going to get our oil well
ordinance?
Mr. Wakefield: I am working on it.
Councilman Nichols: I am sure all of us feel as I do, that the
Planning Commission that we have had now
functioning for some -time'- has done=-!�Ln
excellent body of work and is extremely productive. We have been the
type of activity underway in terms of creative legislation. These
items right here, when we finally pass on them and they become adopted,
we sort of take the credit as a Council body, but all of the work
comes up through staff and the Commission and they should really take
credit for it.
Mayor Gleckman: (Asked if Council had further comments.)
Council seems to have no questions,
evidently you fellows are doing a good job.
Mr. Adams: Let me express our thanks for these
opportunities and if we can add to this at
ary time, in any., way we would hope to receive
the input back from you.
Mayor Gleckman: Thank you very much,,Chairman Adams, and I
would also like to thank you on behalf of
the Council for the many times I have called
upon you to relate information from Council to the Commission and you
have done an excellent job and we appreciate it.
PLANNING COMMISSION
Review Action of March, 19, 1969.
(Council reviewed items individually.)
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, to accept and file the March 19, 1969�action of the Planning
Commission.
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RECREATION & PARK COMMISSION
PROJECT MP-69018-2 Location: Galster Park (Girls'Camp
APPROVE PLANS & SPECIFICATIONS Area and Picnic Area.
GALSTER PARK CONSTRUCTION
INCREMENT #1
Mayor Gleckman: There was a special meeting held by the
Recreation & Park Commission this evening, is
there anything to add to the report?
Mr. Aiassa: No, but we should have a recommendation from
the Commission as a result of their special
meeting.
Robert .Nordstrom, Chairman The Recreation & Park Commission did
Recreation & Park Commission just conclude the special meeting held
this evening for the purpose of giving
thought to the plans and specifications
for the comfort stations at Galster Park. We have reached a conclusion
and it is that the Recreation'& Park Commission recommends approval of the
working drawings and specifications for the comfort stations at Galster
Park as well as authorizing the City Engineer to advertise for bids. That
is our recommendation to the City Council. We do have with us this
evening Mr. Lee Sharfman and Mr. Edward Niles of the firm of Armstrong:'.&
Sharfmari; - landscape architects.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Councilman Nichols: A clarification, = the second paragraph on the
first page says ..."the structures include a
maintenance building, men°s restroom and
ladies'restroom, and shows three structures and an observation tower.
Is the observation tower shown separately on the map?
(Mr. Zimmerman pointed out the structures on the map and explained.)
Mayor Gleckman: We do have a completion date set in the bidding?
Mr. Zimmerman: Yes, I would refer this to the architect as to
the length of time allowed. We will expect to
if approved tonight. award a bid at the Council meeting of April 21,
Councilman Nichols: I am still not quite clear - what we are putting
out for bidding - the restrooms at the picnic
area which includes storage facilities and then
the restrooms at the girls' camp area?
Mr. Zimmerman: That is correct. That is known as the first
increment of construction.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
that the Council approve the recommendation of the Recreation & Park
Commission approving the working drawings and specifications for the
construction of the comfort stations as outlined as the first increment
at Galster Park: the girls' area and the northwest section, be approved as
submitted by the architects Mr..Sharfman and Mr. Niles, and that the City
Engineer be authorized to advertise for bids.
PERSONNEL BOARD
Minutes of February 4, 1969
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa - I notice a comment in the second
paragraph on the last page "....that you may be
switching Mr. Windsor to the Personnel Office
and Mr. Russell to City Council....." and you explained to the Board the
reason for the transfer. Do we have any memo for the reason of the
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PERSONNEL BOARD - Continued
Mr. Aiassa; No, but I haven't done any switching as yet and
I actually have not made any confirmation of it,
although it has been discussed with both
employees. Actually it is a routine program. Don Russell was transferred
into Personnel from another Department and I feel it would be beneficial
to the City and the employees if this transfer were made, in order to
round out their experience. I have discussed it with them and they know
it is coming.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
to accept and file the Personnel Board minutes of February 4, 1969.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
a) Letter from members of the majority group of :the:;Blue Ribbon Sub -
Committee re. water resources
Councilman Nichols: I tend to think that which I think people would
expect that I think - they do have a point. If
the thrust of an official document of the City
is in a certain direction the Council hears it, passes on it and adopts it
and leaves a basic thrust which I think later implies that is the Council's
thinking and I don't think when we hear the General Plan we have to hear
every paragraph separately. And I don't think the Council has felt, at
least up:.to this point that it wanted to take a position one way or the
other on a Municipal Water System. I think therefore if this is incorporat-
ed in the General Plan and if adopted it would in fact tend to put the
0 Council on record in that direction. I would not want to have the General
Plan come before us and have this as a battleground that would determine
the adoption or not adoption of the General Plan. Unless we wish to make
it a battleground, I would prefer not to see it an issue here.
Councilman Gillum: I have received phone calls from some of the
people that signed this letter. I believe the
point they are trying to make and their main
objection, and I believe I also take the same objection - -Mr. Williams
presented the plan very well but it appeared to me at one point he delved
into an area that is somewhat our responsibility and in a sense he urged
strongly that the citizens of this community vote for municipal bonds.
I don't believe any place in the General Plan does it state this is one of the
requirements of the voters the supporting of municipal bonds for a water
system.. And I think their main concern is that it is possible the public
may get the idea this is a strong recommendation by Williams & Mocine and
,,they felt it could be misinterpreted . by a large number of the people in
the community and,this is the reason for their letter.
Mayor Gleckman: I can appreciate the letter written by the
members of the Citizens:' Committee. I believe
in fact this was one report that this Council
had never taken into study session and said whether they were for it or
against it, whether they would adopt or not adopt, accept or not accept,
and I think in lieu of this the Pages 14 to 44 states that the staff
reviewed the water system problems in West Covina, and this in no way
really puts us in effect that we have adopted it. At the same time if it
is going to be a problem I would like to have it heard at the Planning
Commission level and then maybe come before the City Council, if this is
the objection of these particular people. They have every right to go
before the Planning Commission, point these particular sections of the
General Plan out at that time, and if this General Plan is going to be
recommended to this City Council then the Planning Commission should be
the first one to hear this and not have the Council deleting or adding to
it because we have not had the background or the study that the Planning
Commission has made in this area. I understand how they feel and I can
appreciate it, but I would hate to see us take any action at this time.
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS (a) - Continued
Councilman Nichols: I would concur with you.Mayor, I believe it
would be,a bit improper for the Council to
make any directive tonight. I feel these
things should go to hearing. You will recall we were in agreement this
afternoon on another matter - that it should go to hearing and we should
not take any advance position.
Councilman Gillum: One further statement. Again I think this is
the main area they are concerned with --(read
from letter) and I think this is Mr. Mocine's
own opinion as far as urging the citizens to vote. They further say that.
such action by Council has not come to their attention. I feel strongly
that possibly Mr. Mocine was in an area that was not quite in the General
Plan. He might say that it would be to their benefit to have this water
system but I don't think he should get in the area of urging the citizens
to strongly support a bond election to purchase the water system.
Councilman Nichols: I agree with you. I think this was a matter
of an effort to lobby and in his own conscience
he concluded that was the appropriate thing to
say. I think that could come back to haunt anyone of us if left in there.
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Nichols, his statement is not in the General
Plan. This is his own personal statement
that I am objecting to. No where in the General
Plan does it urge the citizens to support bonds for municipal water, it
recommends it would be to the advantage. I am saying I object to his
strong approach as a professional man in the field urging 'the- cit=i.zenns�_to
support water bond elections.
Councilman Nichols: I believe he did not talk to all the Council
on this.
Mayor Gleckman: I don't think he talked to any of the
councilmen, that wasn't his position to talk
to any of the councilmen.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
that this letter be received and filed.
HEARINGS
ZONE CHANGE NO. 414 LOCATION: West side of Grand Avenue
UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 138 between Holt and Virginia.
JOSEPH DAL CERRO
BEQUEST for approval of a change of zone
from R-A (Residential -Agricultural) to
S-C (Service Commerical) and approval
of an unclassified use permit to allow a service station on an irregularly
shaped .93 acre parcel. Denied by Planning Commission Resolution No. 2125
and 2126. Appealed by applicant on January 27, 1969.
0 Mayor Gleckman: Madame City Clerk,do you have the affidavits of
notification?
City Clerk: Yes, it has been filed.
(Mr..Menard, Planning Director, presented the staff report verbally and
read in full Planning Commission Resolutions #2125-2126.)
THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONE CHANGE NO. 414
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 414 --Continued
IN FAVOR
Robert L. Bacon I would like to introduce from the
1.936 Heath Terrace Standard Oil Company, Mr. Howard Graul.
•West Covina He is going to present to you the
(Attorney for J. Dal Cerro) outline of what is being proposed for
the development .in. this particular
location.
Howard Graul., Ass°t. Operations Mgr., (Present exhibits showing what
Standard Oil Company is proposed for the location..)
1220 E1 Dorado
Placentia One of the key words here is "proposed".
Standard Oil desires to be a good
neighbor and be as compatible as we
possibly can with the surrounding areas. (Explained plot plan.) This is
only a proposal and is subject to modification. should you see fit to grant
the rezoning. On the left is an architectural view, which is quite true
to what you might actually expect to view there from across the street.
.You will notice the greenery pretty well screens off the residential area.
Also .you will notice there is only one pole sticking up on that property
with a sign on it and this is what we would like to have, but should you
be so inclined we can drop it down. The chief point here we are not
proposing yard floodlighting that would tend to bleed over into the
residential areas. This is something new but we can put lighting in the
planter areas. --Service stations in the last 8 to 1.0 years have been
changing in character a good deal. They have more than doubled in cost
in construction. The average station is around $100,000 and a great deal
. of this cost is, not just because of inflation or the locality but because
an. attempt has been made to make them more compatible to their surroundings
and pleasing to the.eye.
Stanley Trach My function with Standard Oil is to assist inthe
580 North Park Avenue selection of points where our Company can market
.Pomona its products. The first question, as a Council,
that you will ask is there a need for the
Standard station there. We have lots of them
in the community now. Why another? In our industry we find there is a
constant change. There is a change in motorists buying habits, a change
in. traffic patterns, change in style. In this location there is a process
of observing a marked change in the character of -he neighborhood. Grand
Avenue has recently been opened letting heavy traffic through the cities
of Covina and West Covina. The neighborhood will. be changed further by
the construction of a major interchange. Our company is charged with the
responsibility of supplying our products to a substantial portion of the
motoring public that prefers our company. As to the need, we operate three
service stations within the radius of 1-1/10 miles that are producing
volumes of gasoline that makes them among the top producers .in the San
Gabriel Valley. At the present time at two of those stations we are unable
to take care of the volume of business. The stations have reached the
.saturation point. There is a need for another one in this area. Of the
three mentioned none are on conflicting traffic routes to the one proposed.
Before we approach a project of this size we make.extensi.ve marketing
studies. We selected this location as being one that should be least
•objectional to the neighborhood and the City and completely compatible with
the fine neighborhood that abutes on the South. We are so convinced of the
need that we are prepared to invest in land cost and buildings a quarter of
a million dollars. Quoting from a report prepared by the Orange County
Planning Department for the County of Orange a statement in the introduction
"because of the 'ever increasing use of the automobile the service station
has become more and more important until it is now as necessary as a public
utility such as power, gas and water."
Many people will probably testify that there
are too many service stations now and in some situations I would have to
agree, but you must remember there is a constant turn over in service
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 41.4 - Continued
stations - new ones are being built as the need demands, old ones are
going out of business because of the changes I mentioned. Comparing
the years 1964 through 1967 the total number of service stations in that
4 year period in California gained 1.6%'. The gasoline volume increased
• 4.1.%. The motor vehicle registration increased 5.5%. So the service
stations are not keeping up with the volume of business nor the motor
vehicle registration. What is the position of our company in the City
of West Covina? Frankly we are quite delinquent. Our company is the
leading marketer and we operate only 8 stations in the community. I
believe there are 76 stations in. the community. Our oldest station was
opened in. 1964. We have built only three in this growing community
in the last 10 years. The three built, one was acquired by city
annexation and one developed t'o replace one we lost by the freeway.
Gentlemen we would like to have another one in the City of'West Covina.
Mrs. Dorothy Dal Cerro I have lived in this area for 20 years. I have
828 Dancove Drive occasion to pass this property every day.
West Covina Grand Avenue is becoming increasingly busy.
Every time I try to make a left turn from
Virginia Avenue onto Grand it is harder and harder. I know it won't
be long before they will be putting stop lights on. the corner. I have
sold real estate in the area for about 6 years and the properties we
have listed and that I personally have tried to sell on. Holt Avenue
near that intersection I have been. very unsuccessful in. selling them
because when people realize the Freeway is going to be changed and there
will. be off ramps, etc., they just are not interested. Therefore if we
did have to build homes on those twollots there they would be very
difficult to sell. Especially sincelthe value of the Land means we
would probably have to build in the.$40,000 or upwards bracket.and I
. don't beli.eve.I could find a buyer that would pay $40,000 to live on a
busy corner on Grand.Avenue facing the Freeway with a stop light in
front of it. If it were rezoned for R--3 property and apartments I
think it would be a lot worse for people living in. the neighborhood.
There would be a lot more objecti.onal sights as far as trash, cans,
garages, etc., than in.this particular type of development because of
the way they intend to develop it.
H. Bacon: In order to summarize our position I think it
is best fo go back to the objections placed
by the Plianning Director and Planning
Commission with regard to this project: 1 • the property is entirely
in a. residential area and thereforeithis is improper zoning to zone to a
commercial use. (Presented pictures of the property showing a view from
one of the residences on Virginia Street.) You can see the character of
this land is not entirely within a residential area. South of this
development it is entirely residential, but who ever is responsible for
it we now have the problem of a freeway cutting through this area and
when it .came through it changed the character of this land. You will
note the land is essentially vacant around this property, a somewhat
commerical zoning has occurred also] - here is a school type building and
just beyond that is the new Jewish Temple, but probably most of all the
Freeway interchange is going to be changing and this house that sits on
top of the hill is going to 'be el.i.mn.ated. (Explained area of change by
freeway.) What is going to change for the people living on Virginia
Avenue and looking towards this property is that they will. no longer
have a view of the other house but a clear cut view of the San Bernardino
interchange. So it is not property�tha.t is entirely residential, but
property immediately adjacent to th,e freeway.
I think'we have shown there is a need for this
development. I don't believe it is possible to say that Standard Oil
would conceive of investing a quarter of a million dollars in a project
if there wasn't a need. Need can only be established by customers
wanting to use the facility. Thattjis the real test of need.
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 414 - Continued
One of the answers given to the zoning in
this case.was that a mile north of the freeway a gas station had been
approved for use and I don't think that really answers the problem
• either because we all utilize certain gas stations. Standard Oil has
about 18% of the market - 18% of the people in West Covina prefer to use
Standard Oi.l, products as opposed to Gulf or what ever might be north of
the freeway. As far as this not fitting the General Plan it shows that
Holt Avenue in this particular location, will be made into a major four
lane highway. It is intersecting with Grand Avenue. It is very clear as
far as the General. Plan is concerned, this type of facility is in keeping
with the freeway. Holt Avenue is in the core area. I think you would
find that the only real type of development that can go into this area
would be commercial. A development of apartment houses would be next
to the freeway and it would be of such a low caliber I am sure the
residents would not want that. The fact it is claimed this is a spot
piece of zoning and we have to guard against this - the spot zoning was
made by the State Division of Highways by making a major intersection
there. They changed the character of this land, we did not. It was
changed already and it is already in fact a commercial type of area
simply by that fact. Also south of this area, true it goes into a
residential area but so does every other street in the City go from
residential. to commercial.
I think when we consider all of these factors
and the fact that.Standard Oil is going to put in a facility which will,
buffer this area, if you have this view of the freeway now you will have
a view of a park and trees and if I lived there I think I would be much
happier looking forward to having park and trees to buffer me rather
than having a view of the freeway and freeway traffic. I 'believe because
of all of these factors the zoning should be granted.
IN OPPOSITION
Wayne Petersen I am here representing the East Hills
3202 Virginia Avenue Homeowners Association., something over 250
West Covina members. We will have two of the members of
our Board of Directors here to speak.
We are here this evening representative of
the residents of the immediate area surrounding or next to this proposed
variance. We are opposed to the granting of this variance. I believe
the Planning Commission pretty well lays out our feelings, however we
would like to have two of our members of our Board speak to you very
briefly this evening.
Melvin. Krause To do less than commend Standard Oil for the
321 South Chalmers Avenue design of this building would do them an
West Covina injustice. However, the .real issue is
zoning. This is a residential. area. We have
zoning regulations to assure the orderly development of an area.
This proposal tonight is very clearly spot zoning. Spot zoning violates
the proposal of orderly zoning development.
Albert J. Galin. This character of Grand Avenue, which they
3511 E. Cortez.Avenue submit has changed and I submit has not changed.
.West Covina Which is still strictly residential. All the
way south of this property it is still resi-
dential. In fact by the picture submitted by the opponents they show
residential to the direct north of this property. This property is
adjacent to a fine residential area and we do not feel it should be
changed at this time. I would like to also point out that this property
is covered by deed restrictions. There is no indication. yet as to how
or when those will be lifted and certainly until they are lifted, I think
there is some difficulty to the orderly development of this property.
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 414 - Continued
Wayne Petersen: We have a:nuniber of our residents here this
evening and rather than have each of them
come up and address Council, if we may have
them stand and indicate their presence to Council, I believe this
would be sufficient. (A number of residents stood up.)
Barbara Vaughan I just moved in the area, and.I don't belong
221 South Grand to any Association. The reason I bought was
West Covina because it was strictly residential and to me
that is the way it looks like it should stay.
We have.gas stations on the other side of the
Freeway and on Grand Avenue towards Mount.Sac. I just moved from an
area that was full of gas stations.
REBUTTAL
H. Bacon: I would like to answer a couple of items raised.
Deed Restriction which is on. the property is
one which by its language limits its use to residential uses. It is the
opinion of Standard Oil lawyers that this Deed Restriction is not a
problem should the City Council grant the zone change. By granti.ng the
zone change you will have legislatively stated that the property is of
different character than the Deed Restriction and the Deed Restriction
therefor falls.
I think what we are basically faced here -with.
is the fact that this property is within this area of West Covina which
is a lovely residential area and everyone would like to think about this
property as being how it was ten or fifteen years ago, unfortunately
that simply is not the case as far as this particular piece of property
is concerned. When this Freeway interchange is put in, you will see that
this whole piece of land including that house existing on the property
will have to come out because the freeway has a general downhill slope
and this interchange will. come behind this house by approximately 1001.
These people living here will have an unobstructi:ve view of the on. and
off ramps and this house will be gone. Over here you have a somewhat
different classification than residential. Holt Street will not be the
narrow little street it is but it will be a wide street. This area will
be in the core area. This is the situation that we are facing. This
property is changing in. character, it is just a matter of time as to
whether or not this change is recognized today or sometime later. The
construction. of this service station will. provide the parklike buffer
and give the people living in this area a much more satisfactory view.
I believe the zone change should be granted because of all of these
factors presented to you. Thank you.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC TESTIMONY, PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED. COUNCIL
DISCUSSION.
Councilman. Lloyd: Lest the record show that I live in this area
and I am a member of the Homeowners Associa-
tion that appeared this evening. I recognize
the economic flow of the City and in recognition of that economic flow
this is one of the reasons why those of us on Council charged with its
guidelines have pursued with a certain amount of vigor the General Plan.
There is no question about the fact this is a very lovely area and that
there will eventually be some commercial in the area but we are speaking
of a time factor here and I think time will be the thing which will
dictate the type of development that will go in. Personally I am against
the development of a service station simply because I have been
approached by many of the people simply stating they do not desire a
service station in this area. I would point out that there will. be a
service station about 2000 feet to the north on the west side 5T 9r. a'H1a �
with the development of Fairway. This Council. approved the service
station there and I frankly think that serves the needs of the people
here. I recognize people have individual preferences in the selection
of their .gasoline outlet and certainly this is not an unreasonable thing.
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 41.4 - Continued
However, I think the issue at hand is,do we need a service station there
to serve the people residing in that area, and I think there is a very
clear indication on the part of the residents that I have spoken to
throughout that area that not only do they not want it but they
• specifically desire no service stations in the area. I would be against
it.
Councilman Gillum: A question of the .City Attorney. On this
Deed Restriction - would you clarify for the
.Council?
Mr. Wakefield: The Deed Restriction is a private covenant
that exists between. the property owners, it
is enforceable in the courts by any property
owner that is aggrieved by a breach of the restriction.. It is true as
indicated that the action of the City in the zoning of property is not
controlled by the Deed Restriction, however, I do not share the
same view advanced as to the validity of the Deed Restriction, however
that is not a question that is before you or before.me.
Councilman Chappell: As you know I am not against service Stations
per se, but I do feel when we maintain a
residential area such as we have here and the
fact that our General Plan doesn't indicate anything other than keeping
it that way I would go on record opposing service stations here. I am
not trying to be facetious with this remark but I have one of these
service stations right near my house and I wish they would plan on
decorating it as they are'this one, because it would certainly help.
• Councilman Nichols: I think this is the best presentation, in. my
opinion, that I have ever heard a service
station proponent make in the 5 years I have
been sitting on the Council. Very convincing and very swaying. If in
fact that would be.any consolation, I would like to mention. it. The
flaw I think is that the thrust of your argument is that it is a
changing area, and then you go on to say when the freeway, and when
Holt Avenue, and when the off ramp, etc. I say let's wait and see when
these things do occur. You are projecting the changes before they
arrive. I think the community says you may be right, quite probably you
are right. I think it is changing, I think the traffic count is changing.
I think some day some type of development will be the order of the day
other than $50,000 homes. So.I would say - wait. When these changes
have been consumma,ted,then I think would be time enough to look at the
area and see if we are justified in changing the basic zoning.
.Motion. by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that Zone
Change.Application.No. 41.4 be denied. Motion carried on roll call vote
as follows -
AYES: Counci..lmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Gillum, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
.ABSENT: None
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman..Lloyd, that the
Unclassified Use Permit No. 138 be denied. Motion carried on roll call
vote as follows:
AYES; Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd,.Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE CHAIR DECLARED A RECESS AT 8:50 P.M. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 9 P.M.
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HEARINGS - Continued
ZONE CHANGE NO. 395
TAR DEVELOPMENT CO.
LOCATION: 916,919,920 and 1003 Meeker
Avenue and 845 Sunkist Avenue between
Willow and Sunkist Avenues.
City Clerk stated she had received a communication from the applican.t_re-
questing a continuation of the hearing. .(Letter read by City Clerk)
Motion 'by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that this hearing.
be held over to the.May 12, 1969, Council meeting, as requested by applicant.
Councilman Nichols: I am perfectly willing to hold over, only I take
exception to the nature of this letter which'
indicates that it is solely due to the action of
the City Council in "fiddling around"` with this general matter, and I
suspect there are some other conditions that are dictating this request,
but if they want to make the Council the whipping boy and request their
delay on that basis I: will accept it.
(Mayor Gleckman asked if there were anyone present primarily regarding
..Zone Change No. 395. None.)
Motion carried.
SOUTHEASTERLY ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO. 209 LOCATION: Easterly from
PROTEST HEARING Merced Avenue between
Hol.lenbeck Street and
Citrus Street,
Set for hearing this date by Resolution No. 3949 adopted by the City
Council on February 24, 1969. Said Resolution published in the .West
Covina Tribune and San Gabriel Valley Tribune on March 6 and 13, 1969.
Mayor Gleckman: Madam City Clerk do you have the affidavit of
publication?
City Clerk: Yes.
Mayor Gleckman: Madam City Clerk do you have any written
protests?
City Clerk: I have not received any written protests.
Mr. Wakefield: Mr. Mayor - it would be in order to inquire if
anyone in the audience would desire to file a
written protest?
Mayor Gleckman: Is there anyone present that would like to file
a protest on Annexation District No. 209?
No on.e.
Mr. Wakefield: Mr. Mayor, there having been. no protests filed
M in connection with this annexation proceedings
there are some preliminary matters which should
be disposed of, the first question as to whether or not the City Council
desires to make any changes in the boundaries as proposed for this annexa-
tion?
(Council indicated no changes.)
Mr. Wakefield: The next step would be to give consideration to
a date for the annexation election.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Brooks do you have any particular date in
mind? Mr. Wakefield, do we have a time limit?
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ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO. 209 - Continued
Mr. Wakefield: Not sooner than 54 days, nor longer than 75
days of the date calling the election.
C.M. Brooks I would suggest the date of May 27, 1969.
18325 Crescent Park Dr. believe that falls within the guidelines.
Mr. Wakefield: That would be within the time.
Mr. Brooks: It is my understanding that this will, be a
special. election on a Tuesday.
I
Motion by Councilman Gillum that a special election for Annexation District
No. 209 be set for May 27, 1969. Seconded by Councilman Chappell.
Councilman Nichols: How many registered voters are there in the area?
Mr. Brooks: Approximately 190.
Mr. Wakefield: And the law requires that there be one Judge, one
Inspector and 2 Clerks for the election. It is
also necessary at this time to designate the
compensation paid.
City Clerk: Inspector $18.00; Judge $15.00; Clerks $15.00.
(Appointed by City Clerk, subject to confirmation
by City Council.)
Mayor Gleckman: Mrs. Preston, will you please handle.
41 Mr. Brooks: May I pose a question as to the polling place?
Mr. Wakefield: The Polling place must be established within
the limits set for the area.
Councilman Lloyd: Do you have a place, Mr. Brooks?
Mr. Brooks: Not at present, but I would like to give it some
consideration.
Mr. Wakefield The polling place is paid for by the City, and
the rate in the past, has been $15.00.
Motion carried.
RESOLUTION NO. 3960 The City Attorney Presented:
ADOPTED A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF WEST COVINA
FINDING AND DECLARING THAT A MAJORITY PROTEST HAS
NOT BEEN MADE AND CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON THE 27th DAY OF
MAY, 1969, PERTAINING TO THE ANNEXATION OF WEST COVINA SOUTHEASTERLY ANNEX-
ATION DISTRICT NO. 209 TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell that said
Resolution be adopted. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Gillum, Gleckman
NOES: :None
ABSENT: None
PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT
Mayor Gleckman: At this time I would like to make the appointment
to the West Covina Planning Commission to
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PLANNING'COMMISSION APPOINTMENT - Continued
fulfill the unexpired term of Mr. Robert Davis, whose resignation we
had accepted --I introduce to you Mr. Nevin Browne of 1524 Alpine Drive.
Motion. by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
that a resolution be prepared appointing Mr. Nevin Browne to thePl.an.ning
Commission.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
West Covina. Fact Book
Ray Mi.samore, Vice -President I am appearing this evening in place
West Covina Chamber of Commerce of the Chamber President -Phil Wax,
who was unable to attend. It is my
duty this evening to introduce to the Council the gentleman responsible
for introducing the West Covina Fact Book. It is a pleasure to present
Mr. Frank Clement, Vice President of ?Bengelsdorf'Pub-lications.
Frank Clement: I am just appearing to advise Council that we
are very pleased with the results of the Fact
Book we are producing for the Chamber of
Commerce and acquaint you with a situation. which may meet with some
action on your part. We are committed at this time to produce a. 48 page
book plus cover, pictorial fact book. There will. be 25,000 copies
published and they will be mailed to all residences and business houses
in West Covina. In. addition there will. 'be some 4,000 copies used by the
Chamber of Commerce, essentially to take care of new residents moving into
the area. If the Council so desired there would be a possibility of
increasing the number of pages in the book: and devoting these entirely to
City Government. In this 48 page book we are now producing there will. be
ample coverage of both the City and general facts but any additional
pages could be devoted entirely to City Government. So if it would be
your pleasure to underwrite the cost of such. additional pages it would add
a great deal. to the book, although we do not need it only in terms of making
the book a greater success.
Councilman Gillum: I am sure you have discussed the additional cost
with the staff, can you give us some idea of the
amount of money involved?
Mr. Clement: Yes. An additional 8 pages would be $2200.00
in full color. Approximately $1600. if in
black and white and one additional. color. The
circulation would be approximately 25,000 copies mailed to every resident
in. the City.
Councilman Chappell: Mr. Mayor - I know the previous Fact Book was
used by the School Board in the interviewing of
new personnel and it was well received. I am
glad the.Chamber is bringing this out. I think it has a place in our
community periodically - I don't want to see it every year. I think it
does a job for 'us but.$2200. for 8 pages?
0 Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Clement, how you arrived at 8 pages, I
don't know, but we may go in multiples of 4?
(Mr. Clement explained how it could be bought, even as low as 2 extra pages.)
Councilman Gillum: I would like to see a complete .report on the
.breakdown of costs.
Mr. Clement: The time is rather short, we plan, on. having
the book out before the 21st of April.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - Continued
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Aiassa - is there some season we are re-
ceiving this now? I know it has been in the
mill and I think it is a fine idea but I don't
want to make a decision without additional information.
Mr. Aiassa: Well the 48 pages are completed and this is a
new proposal, they are not pushing it but they
wanted the Council to know that it was available.
Mr. Clement: We didn't want.to ask you to subsidize the book
we wanted to be sure the book was a success and I
can assure you it is and we are .now only talking
about additional pages.
Councilman Gillum: I agree it is another way of communicating
with our community but right now can anyone tell
us what the additional pages ,are going to con-
sist of? I think it is a good idea but I would
like to know what we are talking about in regard to information. The
last time we put one out we said something about cutting down. trees and
the citizens stormed City Hall.
Councilman..Nichols: I personally don't favor this approach to the
public. I feel the Fact Book plays a role in
the community and by and large includes
information. that is very helpful. I feel. when the City communicates with
its citizens in. the terms of annual report it should do so and not put it
in a Fact Book or through some other device that lessens the impact of the
report. I know we have not been issuing our Annual Report each year and I
don't know what it costs, but I feel if we think it should be issued then.
we should do it in a manner that definitely advises the citizens that
we are communicating with them and not attempt to use the device of the
Chamber of Commerce. By that I mean a book that is put out by a private
agency in the community should not be put out as an Annual Report to the
citizens along with other facts and information.
Mayor Gleckman:
difficult giving you
making the request and
the agenda.
an
Councilman Chappell:
Mayor Gl.eckman:
Councilman Lloyd:
Mr. Misamore:
Councilman Lloyd:
I think personally the time element involved
and the cost involved makes it very difficult
to act in good faith and it would be very
answer "yes" or "no" tonight. I appreciate your
when it first came to me I suggested it be,pu.t on
about the taxpayers money
an opportunity but perhaps
engaged in. I hate to see
recognize the cost to the
it - we don't know what is
What are they going to put in it about the
City as of now? They must have some copy.
I believe we should take this matter up with
Mr. Clement at some other time.
Well I honestly feel. some consideration should
be given to this. Mr. Misamore - the Chamber
doesn't intend to issue another book next year?
No, not for possibly two years.
I would like to see a Committee assigned to
look into the feasibility of going for even
two pages. We have to recognize we are talking
and we must spend it wisely and I feel we have
I am motivated because of the endeavor I am
this opportunity slip away even. though I
City. If something could be done to look into
going in at this point.
Mr. Clement:
I would like to say that this is not exactly a
request on my part, it is more or less to let
you know it is �4ailable. It will cost about
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - Continued
$1200. to send these booklets out and if the City has something they want
to say it can be included in additional pages. The book at present will
have about 8 pages of story on the history of West Covina along with other
data. We feel people will want to keep this book and use it throughout the
year. It will have information on churches, organizations - everything of
Ciinterest in the City, all the pertinent facts in one book. The back of the
book has a buyer's guide.
Councilman Lloyd: How many pages are devoted to City Manager
form of government and what the citizens can do.?
Mr. Clement: Under the present format - very little.
Councilman. Lloyd: In other words this is where the question exists
in regard to the addition of pages. I think
consideration should be given to this - we have
an opportunity to tell the citizens about their specific form of government.
And if we encouraged only one citizen through this to participate a little
more in his city government we would be doing a service to the community.
Councilman Nichols: If the City of West Covina could by financial
arrangement or otherwise use their mailing to
include an extra little booklet and we could
pay this firm for that service I would be much more receptive to it, than
including in the middle of the fact book put out by the Chamber of Commerce
that which purports to be a message from the City Council. There is
something about the concept of utilizing this type of booklet as a vehicle
for making it an official city mailing._ I don't think our message to our
own people would be as effective in the middle of a booklet as it would
be under our own mailing.
Councilman Lloyd: I don't see this as an official message. What
this is is more.of an informational booklet
and the reason it would be good to include in.
the booklet rather than an addendum is that they will provide the layout
and the general architectural arrangement, which we wouldn't have to do,.
Councilman Nichols: We may not even be communicating what we would
like to. Mr. Mayor - do we know what we are
talking about in this booklet?
(Council did not know; Mr. Clement advised the deadline for receiving
copy would be April 15th; Council thought the time was too short to make
use of this; -Mayor Gleckman and Councilman Lloyd felt that this should
be checked into further as it would be a tremendous asset to the City.
It was determined that there would not be a meeting prior to April 15th.
Mayor Glec.kman then asked Councilmen. Lloyd and Chappell to look into this
matter and report back to the Councilmen their findings.)
Lee Mohnike I would like to ask Council to consider what
3545 Circle Blvd. I have to say when you consider your Item J -
Oregon the ABC application by Danio. I was not
notified in time to get a written communication
in and I have come one thousand miles to say my piece and if I cannot be
heard later, then. I will say it now?
(Council had no objection to allowing.Mr. Mohnike to speak at the time
Item J of the agenda was under consideration.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
a) Letter from members of the majority group of the Blue Ribbon Sub -Committee
re water resources. Re6eived and filed.
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yet the timing does_ not indicate -that -tney
planned for it. It is correct that they were supposed to pay in January
and now we are approaching March, so I think the Council can rightfully
distrust the statement "we expected to pay.....". I don't know of any
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b) Letter from Vincent.School PTA. re. Storm Drains on North Vincent
Avenue and Flooding Conditions at Vincent and Workman Avenues.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that Council refer this letter to staff and also that staff
notify the persons writing the letter that the problem has been referred
to staff.
c) Letter from Beryl Hudgins re. Business License
Mayor Gleckman: Mrs. Preston, did you get a copy of this
letter? (Answer.: Yes) Since you are in
charge of the licensing - they say a license
fee has been collected twice on this?
Mrs. Preston, City Clerk: When they first came in in 1968 they came
in April. Our license rates are for the
full amount up to July 1 and after that they
are pro-rated.in half. January 1 the new license was due and it has
not been paid. We have sent a notice of delinquency with the penalty.
He doesn't feel he -should pay for the full year when he is going to go
out of business and it doesn't say any place in our License Ordinance
that we can refund it.
Mayor.Gleckman: I would entertain a motion to refer this
matter to the City Clerk for action.
So moved by Councilman Gillum, seconded by
Councilman Chappell.
• Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Wakefield - I don't know the licensing
ordinance with regard to this. In looking
at this what is your reaction - can we charge
him for the whole year?
.Mr. Wakefield-. The City Clerk has correctly pointed out the
provisions of the Licensing Ordinance
applicable in this particular case. It
happened that the man is going out of business in February but he does
owe the City for a business license for the year 1969.
Mayor.Gleckman: My only comment would be if he is going out
of business and -someone -else is taking it over,
we can't ask them to pay the penalty?
'Mr. Wakefield: The license obligation. is the obligation of
the owner of the business as of the first of
January. The new owner comes in and he is
expected to pay a license for the full year. It is true he would not be
obligated to pay the penalty but he would be obligated to take out and
pay for a license from the first day he is operating. As the City Clerk
has pointed out we have no provision for pro -rating as of the first of
February.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Mr. Wakefield: -Mr. Mayor -.I haven't seen the letter, but I
will be.glad to review the matter with the
City Clerk.
Councilman Nichols: The party says "we expected to pay a license
fee but assumed the fee would be pro -rated" -
yet the timing does not indicate that they
planned for it. It is correct that they were.supposed to pay in January
and now we are approaching March, so I think the Council can rightfully
distrust the statement "we expected to pay.....".. I don't know of any
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS -(Item c) Continued
other license that you take out and then you don't need it and you can
.go back and get a refund. (Referred to hunting license, automobile
license, etc. etc.) I don't know why it should necessarily apply here.
I think the gentleman is just unfortunately in a difficult situation that
he has.to resolve himself.
. Mayor Gleckman: We have a motion to refer to our.City Clerk, I
believe she will get together with the City
Attorney and resolve the action.
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Motion carried.
d) Claim of Robert L. Rhome re. damage to camper
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that this matter be referred to the City Attorney.
e) Letter from Orangewood Little League inviting
Council to attend Opening Day Ceremonies April 12, 1969.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
that Council receive and file.
CITY ATTORNEY
RESOLUTION NO. 3961 The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
ADOPTED THE CITY OF WEST COVINA., APPROVING
CERTAIN SPECIFIED PORTIONS OF THE
MERCED/ORANGE AVENUE PLAN."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of -he body of said Resolution.
..Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopting
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
LEAGUE SPRING MEETING
Nichols, Lloyd, Gillum, Mayor Gleckman
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that
City Council approve the request of the City Attorney to attend the
.League spring meeting at South Lake Tahoe. Motion carried on roll call
vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, JGillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman.
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
_Motion by Councilman Gillum that Council approve in an amount not to=
exceed $150.00 to cover expenses for the .City Attorney to attend the
League of California Cities conference. Seconded by Councilman Chappell.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: -
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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CITY ATTORNEY — Continued
(City Attorney requested permission to add an item to the agenda.
Council approved.)
RESOLUTION NO. 3962 The City Attorney presented. -
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
APPOINTING MR. NEVIN BROWNE TO THE
VACANCY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.I"." --� :' `; _. _._
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that
said Resolution be adopted. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
CITY MANAGER
1) Four -Way Stop Sign - Rowland & Broadmoor Avenue
Mr. Aiassa: You have the Traffic Committee minutes of the
meeting on this matter.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City=
'Council approve the Traffic Committee minutes.
. Mayor Gleckman: I was present for part of the discussion and
I would like to ask the Chief of Police a few
questions, if he has no objections. While I
was at the meeting they said even a crosswalk would help and according
to the report a crosswalk would not help because of vision. I would like
an. opinion of a member of the Traffic Committee as to whether a cross-
walk would not help in someway?
Allen Sill, Chief of Police: We did discuss the crosswalk and
Councilman Chappell was also there,
but we felt putting a crosswalk at
that location would tend to funnel the children across the crosswalk
which would be dangerous. We suggested and this the people agreed with,
that we probably should ask the children to go to Hartley Avenue where
there is a crosswalk and the visibility is good, and as the report
indicates we suggested that we do something in the way of restricting
traffic at that curve and also place,a warning sign that the curve is
there.
Motion carried.
2)'"'Stfeet Sweeper
Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Wolff, the.Street Superintendent is
present if anyone has any questions. As
you know Council has set this up on a
replacement basis and the street sweeper is now up for replacement. We
now have money accumulated and we would like to have the Council
approve plans and specifications and authorize staff to call for bids.
So moved by Councilman Nichols, seconded by
Councilman Chappell.
Councilman Lloyd: Have we arrived at a point of wear and tear
on the street sweepers to go into this? We
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CITY MANAGER - Item 2 - Continued
just recently acquired a new one.
Mr. Aiassa: As the oldest machines reach a certain age
we replace; we have charged rental through
our budget appropriations for the replacement
• of these machines in this manner.
Councilman Lloyd: What is the current age of the sweeper we are
replacing?
Mr. Morris Wolff It is 8 years old.
Street.Maintenance Supt.
Mayor Gleckman: Are these plans and specifications made so
there are more than one type that can bid
on this project?
Mr. Wolff: It excludes the type we bought last year.
It was an Elgin 3-wheel and they are the only
people that do not make a 4-wheel. A 3-wheel
will do the job if used in one particular spot, but this particular
sweeper will be used in some of our outlying areas and it would take quite
sometime to get there with a 3-wheel.
Mr. Aiassa: We have the Galaxie tract to service and that
is quite a distance.
Councilman Gillum: As I recall, last time there seemed to be some
objections by one of the manufacturers that -we
• were not treating him fairly and I think it
was pertaining to the specs put out last time. Do you feel everyone
would have a fair chance to bid - I would like your assurance that these
specs can be met. by all the 4-wheel people in the business?
Mr. Wolff: Yes.
Councilman Chappell: And we will be bidding on 3-wheel machines at
a later date?
Mr. Wolff: Yes, that is correct.
Motion carried.
3) Renewal of County General Service Agreement
Motion by Councilman Nichols that City Council authorize the renewal of
the County General Service Agreement for an additional 5 year period
beginning July 1, 1969, and that such action by the Council be forwarded
to the.Board of Supervisors by letter over the Mayor's signature.
Seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried.
• 4) Street Lighting Charges
Modification of County Assessment Procedures
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that
Council authorize the.City Attorney to prepare an,,_ Ordinance requiring
that all new developments in the City pay a street lighting charge
based on an assessed front footage of the property.
Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Aiassa, is there any reason to
anticipate that this would work against the
best interests of some contractor that would come in saying we failed to
take account of his particular problems?
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CITY MANAGER •- Item 4 - Continued
Mr. Zimmerman: The installation of these lights is generally
done by the contractor for Edison Company with
few exceptions, so there is really only one
company involved, and also many other cities are doing this.
. Motion carried.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
that Council authorize the City Engineer to establish a front footage
charge.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
authorizing the Finance Director to establish a special holding account
for this money.
5) Central Business District Study
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman. Chappell, that Council
refer this item to the Underground Utilities Advisory Committee.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa, will this Committee make a
recommendation back to us as to where the money
will be spent before it is spent?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes.
• Motion carried.
6) Drainage Compaint - Mr. Redmond
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Mayor Gleckman, and carried,
that Council receive and file and direct staff to answer the complaint, of
Mr. Redmond, in accordance with staff report.
7) Pending Legislation
a) SB 310
Mr. Wakefield: I think the League°s concern about this bill
is simply from the standpoint that it would
establish a precedent of exempting certain
business activities from the ability of a City to license that activity.
It is like another bill also pendigg which relates to the for hire
truckers and that also would prohibit the City from licensing that type
of business activity. For that reason I think it is the kind of legisla-
tion which the City should oppose simply in the interests of preserving
our rights to license business activities.
• Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried,
that the City of West Covina go on record as opposing Senate,.Bill 310.
b) League'Legislative Bulletins
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried,
that Council oppose AB 374 and AB 240.
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Leagued Legislative Bulletin - Continued
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
that Council support AB bill 524 and Senate Bill 396.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
that Council oppose Senate Bill 312 and Sentate Bill 314.
• Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
that Council oppose Assembly Bill 327 and Senate Bill 208.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried,
that Council support SCA Bill #7.
8) Conference Reservations and Arrangements
Mr. Aiassa: This was a problem about conference reserva-
tions and arrangements and Council directed
staff to prepare a report. Icam sorry that
due to,Mr. Gingrich's illness he is not here tonight, but his staff did
prepare this report.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, to receive
and file.
Councilman Gillum: No discussion at this time, but I will bring
it up at a later date.
Motion carried.
9) 1968-69 Los Angeles County League Dues
Mr. Aiassa: I would like to make a correction. The fee
is now changed from $25.00 to $30.00.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that Council
authorize the payment of $30.00 for the 1968-69 Los Angeles County League
dues. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Gillum, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
10) Use of Helicopters
Mr. Aiassa: We had a helicopter offered to the City and
after due consideration and a thorough
investigation, it is our recommendation that
we not accept this donation at this time.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that Council
reject the offer of a helicopter..to the City.
• Councilman Lloyd: I had the opportunity to look at this
helicopter which d:s :a BrantleyL,which,'has ale
particularlyebad name in the helicopter world
not really because it was a bad helicopter but because it had a major
problem. (Explained) Also the motor mounts were very weak. It was an
early design helicopter which was supposed to fulfill the needs of some
pioneer helicopter need. Also its maintenance would be very high. The
one we looked at had a completely overhauled engine but it would not be
guaranteed that it would go over 5 hours and yet it might go 50 hours.
The helicopter, unfortunately, simply has a poor maintenance record and
is a difficult one to fly and would truly require a highly qualified
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pilot. It just was not suited for the uses the City could envision.
Motion carried.
1 10 b) Joint City Patrol
Mr. Aiassa: One additional comment to the report.
Arrangements have been made for a no -host
dinner at North Woods Inn to discuss the
San Gabriel Valley Helicopter Patrol. I would like to have a
Councilman appointed to attend.
(Mayor Gleckman appointed Councilman Lloyd, and he accepted,)
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carried, that this informational report be received and filed.
11) Sign Abatement
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Mayor Gleckman, and carried,'
that this informational report be received and filed.
12) County Resolution No. 1906 Re. Cameron/Orange Traffic Signal
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that Council
receive and file this informational report.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa _ you did a good job on this.
Motion carried.
13) City Council Meetin
Mr. Aiassa: You may wish to have an adjourned session
with regard to both times and format of agendas.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that Council
receive and file.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa - why don't you schedule this for the
next adjourned meeting for a study session.
Motion carried.
14) League Meeting on Community Development & Beautification
(April 7th)
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
authorizing the City Manager to attend this meeting on April 7th.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, approving
sufficient expense money to cover City Manager's one day trip but not to
exceed $75.00. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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CITY CLERK
Request for permit for Teenagers to Solicit -
ALSAC St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, November 14-22, 1969.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that permission be granted.
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ABC APPLICATIONS
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
that there be no protest as per recommendation by Chief of Police on
ABC application of Eldred W. Gildner dba as The North Forty, located at
2105 W. San Bernardino Road.
b) Marvin Danio - dba The Stage Coach Bar - 642 So. Sunset Avenue
Lee Mohni.ke I do appreciate the opportunity to
3445 Northwest Circle Blvd. speak. As I understand it at the
Salem, Oregon last Council meeting that I attended
we were informed that the ABC had
called a hearing for March 12th. I find that is not so and that we don't
have the pressure of a scheduled hearing working against us, that the
time factor is not against us. I have also found that the claim made
'by Mr. Danio of this working a hardship is not true. Actually the
property was purchased by a James Lotito - I have also found conflict
with what Mr. Danio claimed - he and his wife were former employes of
James Lotito. He claimed he had no association with them. I would like
to say that we have had and do have continued problems with the Stage
Coach Bar. Personal injuries, lawsuits, continual,litter and clutter -
• from that business. I would like to add to what I said last meeting,=,
that I own the property on all four sides and that it is a continuing
problem for me as a property owner to continue business operations at that
location. I would like to reaffirm to the Council that I did lease to Ca
former tenant at that location and that tenant is presently operating a
'beer bar in a building I own at 656 South Sunset Avenue, West Covina.
I would also like to reaffirm that we intend to terminate that lease when
it expires in April of 1970. I do believe that one beer bar in this
area is still too many and I am going to do my part to eliminate the one
that now exists. I was called to task at the last meeting for being a
landlord and trying to protect the interests of my tenant - well I have
some thirteen tenants in a building across from our new Civic Center, so
I have twelve other tenants to live with and I have pledged to them as
well as to this Council that we will terminate this use. In;all fairness
to me in the position that I am in of wearing twelve hats as the landlord
I would ask that you consider this that I am saying to be the truth and
that I am not trying to protect my tenant. I am not at all convinced
that having another beer bar would be detrimental to him. I think with
the back doors only being Tome 50' apart that another bar might be
beneficial to him in that these people that like to attend these bars
like to get together and rotate from place to place. I would ask that
the Council consider carefully the hopes and aspirations that we all have
to improve and enlarge our Civic Center. I think the whole crux of the
matter is not one beer bar application but the vital part is, are we going
to go forward with a Civic Center development, a regional commercial
development that will really amount to something. Your new regional
commercial zone doesn't specifically provide for beer bars. Perhaps that
was an omission or perhaps it was the council's intention when they passed
the R-3 zone.
I ask you to consider carefully just what kind
of a development we are going to have across the street from the Civic
Center. I would like the Council to review what has happened on
Glendora Avenue and the other Old Center - what pattern of development
has taken place there. I am sure it was a planning disaster that we, in
the past - all of us - contributed to the disaster of that old center.
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CLERK
- ABC
APPLICATION - Danio - Continued
I came through there this evening looking for the bus depot - it looks
terrible and it is terrible. I ask you to look across the street at what
I got, which I built prematurely. It is second class buildings and I
•have had trouble finding tenants, but I have high hopes for the future.
Mr. Menard can.tell you that every trip I am here I discuss the situation
with him - how things are going, are we ever going to achieve the circula-
tion program, etc. Yes, I have high hopes. I haven't built a building
since 1961. I have held the rest of the land vacant and pay taxes on
vacant land hoping I can redevblop this. In 1972 my last lease expires and
I will then be in a position to redevelop or sell to someone that has the
finances and ability to redevelop that area. Our property value there is
going down and another beer bar will not help. I laiow it will be
detrimental to me and I think it will be to the Civic Center and the people
of West Covina to establish another beer bar in that location. I would
urge that the Council allow their protest to stand, that protest that is
in to the ABC. I would also ask that the Council give the facts to the
representative to that protest hearing and let him tell ABC just what has
been taking place in regard to this application. Lastly I would ask that
the Council vigorously pursue all avenues that will led to the redevelop-
ment and cleaning up of this area. Anything that I can do, feel free to
call on me. I am a long ways away but I can be down here in two hours.
Thank you.
Jack Stevens, Attorney
767 South Sunset
West Covina
•operation of the bar. I
his interest in the Wagon
to the complaints he has
his motives -that is all
We spoke to you two weeks ago advising that
Mr. Lotito is nbt the^ow-nef.li.a-lchave two
affidavits from the proposed owner which will
verify that Mr. Lotito has no interest in the
also ask you to interrogate Mr. Mohh. ke as to
Wheel - I ask you to question Mr. Aiassa as
in that establishment? You have to question
I ask you to do.
THE CHAIR DECLARED THE PUBLIC PORTION CLOSED. COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Councilman Gillum: Since I was the one that asked this to be
brought back before the Council -;I will say I
think we have made a mountain out of a mole-
hill in a sense. I am not trying to restrict business. If a man wants
to invest his money and take a chance on being successful, that is
probably the greatest thing that has happened to this Country. This
matter came before us earlier and by a 5 to 0 vote we had decided to
protest this r1io-erase on the recommendation of our Chief of Police.1
I have before me the copy dated 2-6-69 which states the reason for
our protest of this application. It seems somehow it came back before
us and I was convinced at that time maybe we were wrong in protesting
and at that time I voted to withdraw the protest. The next morning
after reviewing my own thoughts and some additional information, I asked
my fellow councilmen if they would have any objection to putting it back
on the agenda to be reconsidered.
Personally I don't think that business area
is going to rise or fall with one more beer bar license. I think the
problems we have had with the Water Wheel in the past, and they are
•all right here in the record from the Police Department - wL�11'CI don't
think we need to add that burden to our Police Department and concen-
trate another beer bar within three of each other. Further, I have a
strong indication from the people that should know, that ABC very seldom
turns down a request on saturation and I am willing to state publicly
at this time that I would go along with the Chief of Police's
recommendation, because he is the one that has to service these areas,
he has the responsibility in this area and I would like to change my vote
of 2 weeks ago. I feel I have no other alternative but to support the
recommendation of the Chief of Police and that is that we protest this
additional beer license.
I would like to comment on the point that was
made last time, that when the gentleman that owned the Stage Coach Bar
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Page Twenty-five
moved to the front there were 33 signed petitioners ---and I believe this
letter that we have verifies why it happened as it did, that the Chief of
Police was put in a rather awkward position of almost taking the side of
.someone in this request. Now ABC is being asked to approve a third on -sale
beer bar license within the same radius. My own personal opinion is that
we have just about enough of that type of activity within a small confined
area. I want to make it clear that my mind wasn't changed by anyone or
any group of people. It was based on my own concern. I have had some
phone calls in the other direction since it was known that I was consider-
ing reversing my last decision. I am sorry if it causes someone an
inconvenience but I have to base it on what I believe is a recommendation
made in good faith by the Chief of Police and knowing the conditions that
prevailed in that area in the past.
Councilman Lloyd: I appreciate the comments Councilman Gillum
has just given us. There is no question in
my mind that he did indeed vote his conscience
including the changes that occurred. However, I made some statements
at the last meeting towards my attitude towards beer joints and I happen
to be somewhat opposed - and I can think of all kinds of good reasons
why we should deny these people the right to open a beer bar but I think
the issue at hand here is at what point do we have the right to say there
are too many beer establishments. We as a Council are to set policy and
not determine specifics with regard to an area. I am not speaking in
defense of any individual nor in condemnation of any individual. I don't
know any of the people involved and I can truthfully say I have not been
contacted by anyone or any group with regards to this application. I do
appreciate very much the fine work our own Police Chief has done and in
his recommendation of protest on this, I know it was done in all good
conscience and I am sure the Chief also recognizes there is a possibility"
that his work and the work of his men will be made somewhat more complex
by the addition of another bar at this location. But we are not here to
involve ourselves in the moral judgment of what will or will not go on
we have certain ordinances which can be enacted and will provide, if we
don't want beer places then let's eliminate them. If you wish to
eliminate them in any given area then the people can make the determina-
tion and I am -sure we can come up with ordinances through zoning to
handle. The fact remains there are establishments which have on -sale
beer licenses. The question is should there be another one and I don't
see how we can possibly turn anybody down since they,_: are already'
established ~places,. At the present moment the only thing that has to be
determined is do we have the prop-er, zoning and does the person have the
legal and morale right to do a beer bar business and I as a Councilman
must go along with the application. I suggest that you all consider
these facts strongly in making your decision.
Mayor Gleckman: I was one of the ones that voted to withdraw
the protest. I would hate to think this was
any type of argument between the Chief of
Police and the City Council. It really doesn't have any effect on who
was right or wrong from the standpoint of the Chief of Police making a
recommendation. It is a policy making matter. There is no doubt in my
mind that the reasons for turning down this license and the recommenda-
tion for protest had to do with character and not with the idea of how
many beer places we had in a particular area. It is hard for me to
understand how Mr. Mohnike who talks about his obligation to his tenants -
when all the property owners in and around him protested the move from
the Stage Coach out to the front - but Mr. Mohnike rented the place.
Mr. Mohnike also talked about a single purpose building - the Stage Coach'=
was built for a bar, and not Mr. Mohnike moving the bar into it. I don't
see the justification in that. I don't see the justification in the Chief
of Police not at that time recommending a protest to move it out in front
facing -the Civic Center. If this was such a big problem. I am not saying
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CITY CLERK - ABC APPLICATION - Danio - Continued
the -Chief of Police was right or wrong. I have supported the Chief in
almost every motion of a protest with the exception':of once when the
man came before this Council and explained his position as to his
character, etc., and I believe that Councilman Nichols supported me at
that particular time. In this particular situation let's go along
with everything Mr. Mohnike says and I would give him an equal opportunity
to answer these things if he desires - but I just can't understand
where this Council is going to stop when it comes to policy making -
whether they are going to protest on saturation or protest on character.
If this Council decides to go on policy making as far as turning down
a beer bar on the basis of character, I would go along with that because
we have a past record to go by. The problems created in this particular
area, and correct me if I am wrong Mr. Mohnike, you own those buildings
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Gleckman, if I may - I don't believe we
are reviewing Mr. Mohnike, I am sorry but I take
exception to your statement.
Mayor Gleckman: Alright, let's talk about the license applica-
tion - Mr. Mohnike if I have insulted you I
apologize. All I can say is that your
testimony made you open for the remarks made by me or any member of the
Council. I think" -the policy should be cut and dry on this - if you are
going to protest because of saturation then we must protest every single
business license that comes before the Council,_on the question of saturation.
I don't think we have that power. I think we can register a protest on
saturation but I really do feel in this particular case that the case was
• a character reference in the first place, a change of the license applicant
in the second place, and we are making the man guilty by association and
I don't think we should be a part of that. If you want to show me where
this would hurt anything then I could vote against it. But on the basis
of saturation I cannot. We haven't made it anyplace else in our City
and that would include Glendora Avenue.
Councilman Gillum: I am not sure if Mr. Danio is present, I have
never met the gentleman, so it is not directed
at anyone's personality. All I can do is
tell you I have information before me that pertains to the Stage Coach
license moving from the back to the front, it has the petitioners on it
on the back and answers all the questions. As far as judging every
business license on saturation - no. But if the Police Chief feels it
would create a problem having this many so close together, well he is the
professional and we pay him for his recommendation. I don't find
anywhere in there that he is attacking the character of the gentleman
asking for the license but I am concerned about the person that owns the
building and my concern is based on the number of years I have been in
this community and my knowledge and I am entitled to that. And finally
I am basing it on what is recommended by the Chief of Police.
Mayor Gleckman: Using your same statement, and again this has
nothing to do with the Chief of Police
personally but as long as you brought in the
statement from the Police Chief - let's read it. Now we are talking
about Vern's tavern. "This application has put me in the strange
position of defending an alcoholic beverage control or bar license. I
don't recall ever having done this before. My personal opinion, which
doesn't count I know, is that we could do well without ABC establish-
ments as they are hazardous to your health; however that is not what
the law says and we have liquor dispensation with us. What I try to do
is present to Council the facts and a recommendation. My recommendation
is still as before and that is "no protest" to transfer this license.
Signed by Chief Sill." The only point I make is that he also is stat.ing.:
to us that he is unhappy with the situation and I agree with him, but at
the same time he is not going to make it a policy - because he is unhappy
with it - to vote a "no protest" and in this instance he takes the
exact opposite and primarily because of saturation.
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Motion by Councilman Gillum that Council reinstruct the Chief of Police to
protest the liquor application of Marvin Danio for the Stage Coach Bar
at 642 South Sunset Avenue, West Covina. Seconded by Councilman Nichols.
• Councilman Chappell: Since we made our original vote in this area
and because I was unfamiliar with the previous
proceedings I have actually gone around and
talked to the people involved, the Chief and other members of the City,
trying to find out where we stand, what we can or cannot do. Here we
have a man applying to establish a business, we have no information that
is detrimental to his character and he has been checked out; he is trying
to .make a living for his family and there is no moral problem here. The
man has been a dispatcher in our Police Department. At this particular
time I can't see how we can tell him just because he is going into a
place that has been a beer bar that he can't go in there because there
are others in the location - actually we have made a mountain out of a
molehill. I am not going against the Chief's thinking, he doesn't like
beer bars and I personally don't, but I don't believe I have the right
to enter my personal feelings against a man that has no moral problems
that we know of. I have come to that conclusion, Mr. Mayor.
Councilman Nichols: I think this is the kind of decision each
person here has to work out for himself, look
at in terms of their own feelings about it. I
don't propose to make any big issue of it, I person.allysaid I would
uphold the Chi.ef's recommendation the last time around and I voted that
way and I.will vote the same way again.
Mayor Gleckman: The motion is that we reverse our position
taken last week and ask the Chief to protest.
Motion failed on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Nichols, Gillum
NOES: Councilmen Chappell, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
ABSENT: None
Mayor Gleckman: The matter stands as it was at the last
Council meeting - no protest.
c) Man Tang Wong - dba Five Lanterns Restaurant - 2648 E. Workman
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
that no protest be made on the issuance of this license.
d) Request for Parade Permit
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that a waiver of application :kee cfor..a..Parade Perinifby the
Galaxie Little League for April 26th be granted by Council.
CITY TREASURER
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that the City Treasurer's report for the month of February, 1969,
be received and filed.
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MAYOR's REPORTS
RESOLUTION No. 3963 The City Attorneyepr-esented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
COMMENDING JAMES R. DAVIS FOR HIS
SERVICES TO THE CITY."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading
of the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that said
Resolution be adopted. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mayor's and Councilmen's Legislative Conference
April 14-16, 1969
Mayor Gleckman: We did appropriate $175.00 for each
Councilman attending this conference. If
there is a change in the attendance, please
advise Mr. Aiassa.
Town Affiliation Association Request for Membership Fee
Mayor Gleckman: This was not previously budgeted and I would
suggest that we take no action on this until
our next budget session. (Council agreed)
PROCLAMATION
Mayor Gleckman: If there is no objection, I will proclaim
April 8 - 11, 1969, as Business Show Week.
No objections, so proclaimed.
Report on Joint Meeting --March 18, 1969
West Covina and Covina
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that the
sum.of $140.00 be appropriated to cover the bill for the joint meeting
of the City of West Covina and City of Covina held on March 18, 1969.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Civic Center Tour
Mayor Gleckman: I suggested to Mr. Aiassa that we put on a
Civic Center tour for the Council, Mr. Wakefield
and the press, so we all become familiar with
it. This will be set up for the week of the 8th. Mr. Aiassa will advise
you of the details.
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COUNCILMEN'S REPORTS
Councilman Chappell: I attended with the City Manager, an informa-
tional meeting on the 1976 Olympics, which
was most interesting. This Committee was
asking Los Angeles to take the Olympics and one item of interest was
their thinking that if Los Angeles was to get the Olympics that each
• City would support a Country and have them out to their City as their
guests and train on their highschool track, etc. At the present time
Los Angeles is competing against Canada. It is really big business and
is supposedly to be put on without cost to the City of Los Angeles. It
was too bad we couldn't all have gone, it was something new to me to
see how it works. I don't know how it can be a "no cost" Olympic but
the report shows it can.
Councilman Gillum: I have a report from the Retirement
Committee requesting an additional actuarial
be made on the CHP plan at the expense of the
Safety employees associations. In other words what the Retirement
Committee is requesting of Council is permission to enter into a
contract with the State to do the actuary on the CHP plan which may be
in effect by the time 1970 arrives. This is to be used for comparison
purposes and the employees cannot ask for it unless they have
permission from Council. I am asking that Council approve their request
and the money is to be funded by the Safety members associations.
Councilman Chappell: If that is your motion, I will second it.
Mayor Gleckman: I understand we are authorizing permission
but not responsible for any of the funding
• for this actuary. Is that correct?
Councilman Gillum: That is correct. (Councilman Gillum explained
in detail the purpose of this request.)
Discussion by Council.
Motion carried.
Councilman Gillum: This past month the Bobb-Ii Sox Girls Softball
League.have been planning a trip to Mexico to
play softball representing the City of West
Covina and intercity leagues.T'hrough the cooperation of the Mexican
Athletic Association and various people in our community'cthey are able
to take the 15 girls by air into Mexico City and our Sister City Toluca.
The young ladies have raised through their own efforts about $2300.00.
The Council in the past has seen fit in a sense to help such programs
when it comes to the youth in our community such as Little League
Baseball, bands going to different areas representing the City, etc.
I would ask that the City help and support this effort of these young
people going into Mexico representing the young people of our community,
with a financial support in an amount not to exceed $250r-00:. This is
just about what it will take to make their trip complete. They have
raised $2300.00.
Mayor Gleckman: What you are asking for -hen is that $250.00
be authorized by the City Council to complete
the trip to Mexico.
DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL REGARDING FUNDS, ETC.
Motion by Councilman Gillum that Council approve in an amount not to
exceed $250.00 for the financial support of the Girls Softball Team
going into.Mexico representing the City. Seconded by Councilman Lloyd.
Mr. Wakefield: The allocation should be specified as going
to the Sister City Foundation.
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Councilman Lloyd: Frankly I am a little perturbed over the
way this whole thing has been handled. I find
I have received tickets, not asking me to
take them but asking me to return the money. I would point out that
the Sister City Foundation ---and we seem to be coming in after the fact
of this thing. The decisions have been made as to what will be done
and we need only authorize it after the decisions have been made. If this
group is to act for the City I think these programs can be presented to
Council before the fact and I am most perturbed in the manner they are
handled. I think this is a worthy thing and should be supported but I
think something that should be considered in this whole thing is that
we are still paying the taxpayers money and that we are talking about
sending a very select group of youngsters and there are many youz_gSters
who would probably enjoy and like to attend this type of festivity but
simply don't have it because they don't play softball. I recognize
how do you draw the line - here you don't because it is a team and it
is established but in reality you are facing a very difficult situation
here where a very select group of individuals and they are the ones
who will participate over and over again, are going to have this
opportunity. I think we should be most cautious and there are other
ways of handling this. I seconded the motion because the thing is
in reality a completed fact and should be carried forward, but in the
future I think we should be advised in advance of these plans and then
we can make a decision prior to the fact.
Councilman Chappell: Do the girls think they are going to get
anymore money in, or do they feel it has
all come in?
Councilman Gillum: That is correct, they feel it is all in.
Councilman Chappell; In the past I know we voted for jackets
for a team and we have done this for bands
as I recall.
Mayor Gleckman: We gave $200 to the Edgewood High School
and youngsters went up to Oregon representing
West Covina. Also we bought jackets for the
West Covina Colt League team.
Councilman Chappell: In other words this amounts to good public
relations.
Mayor Gleckman: I believe that is what you would have to
accord it to. I agree with Councilman
Lloyd that this thing has been handled
unfortunately, not by the baseball team but by the Sister City
Foundation who did not communicate with us, but I am glad they are
doing something. The original concept of the Sister City Foundation
was to primarily promote our Sister City Toluca, and this is along that
line. I feel if we have the money in the fund that this should be
granted. I would much rather have the money distributed to our youth
in the community, I think it is a good cause although most unfortunate
in the way it was handled. But I do know the gals did appear before
this Council and let us know of their plans ahead of time and they
didn't ask for funds and I am sure if there was some other way of getting
the funds the request would not be made now.
Councilman Nichols: Councilman Gillum did someone from this group
approach you and ask you?
Councilman Gillum: Yes, over the weekend. They felt they had
exhausted all their sources in the community.
I asked some large OrganiZatidns in the
community and they felt they didn't want to get involved.. It seems like
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all the boys baseball teams get all the attention and we actually
ignore the girls softball league. I think it would be a fine gesture
on the part of the City if we do try and help them. If it is at all
possible I would like to see the City support this financially.
• Mr. Aiassa: I think we should have a statement and bill
from whomever is going to receive the
money.
Mayor Gleckman: If voted, this money will go to the Sister
City Foundation.
Mr. Aiassa: We should still have a statement from them.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None.
Councilman Gillum: They are going to meet with the Mexican
Government and I would like for the Council
to send along the City Seal to be presented
to the focal government as we have done on past occasions.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that the Council supply three plaques with the City Seal on,.
to be taken into Mexico and presented to the local governments by
the Girls Softball League team. Motion carried on roll call vote
• as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Councilman Gillum: I would like the Council to consider looking
into longevity pay for city employees. It
is becoming more and more prevalent by
Cities and at times it becomes tempting for an employee to move to
other cities and receive^aL.promotion within his own Department. I
would make a motion that the council recommend to the staff and the
Personnel Board that we would like a report on what it would cost to
install this type of program and what other cities are doing in this
area of longevity pay.
Councilman Nichols: I will second it. I want the second to
reflect that it was made to get it on the
floor and I look very dimly on it, having
lived with this type of pay arrangement for some years in the public
school service; ;it has many limitations.
Motion carried.
40 DEMANDS:- -
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Nichols, approv-
ing demands totalling $253,778.69 as listed on demand sheets B416
through 418 and payroll reimbursement sheets. Motion carried on roll
call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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Councilman Chappell: Mr. Mayor, I believe we had an adjourned
meeting scheduled for April 7th - I would like
to ask for a 60 day delay on this matter.
(Granted) .
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carried that at 11:20 p.m. this meeting adjourn.
ATTEST:
City Clerk
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APPROVED:
MAYOR
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