01-27-1969 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
JANUARY 27,,1969.
The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order -at 7:30 P.M.
by Mayor Leonard S. Gleckman in the West Covina City Hall. The Pledge
of Allegiance was led by Councilman Jim Lloyd. The invocation was given
'by Rabbi Elisha Nattiv of Temple Shalom.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Gleckman; Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd.
Absent: Councilman Gillum. (Due to a death in the family)
Also Present: George Aiassa, City Manager
H. R. Fast, Public Service Director (Arrived at
George Wakefield, City Attorney
Owen Menard, Planning Director
Lela Preston, City Clerk
George Zimmerman, Ass't. City Engineer
Ray Windsor, Administrative Assistant
Douglas Dawson, Administrative Aide
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 13, 1969. - Approved as submitted.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that the Council minutes of January 13, 1969, be approved as
submitted.
CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
AWARD OF BIDS
PROJECT MP-69018-1 " LOCATION: Galster Park
GALSTER PARK GRADING & PAVING
City Clerk stated the bids for Project MP 69018 1 were opened on
Wednesday, January 15, 1969, and'all three bids received were reviewed,
checked for errors and were determined to be valid bid proposals. Bids
received:
RADCO CONSTRUCTION CO. $19,200
LEE CONSTRUCTION CO. $27,000
AMAN BROS. INC. $27,250.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman_Chappell, and carried,
that the bid of Radco Construction, Inc., of San Marino, as presented at
the bid opening for Project MP-69018-1 be accepted and that the Mayor and
City Clerk be authorized to execute an agreement with the said Radco
Construction, Inc., for the work.
PROJECT SP-6626
STREET IMPROVEMENTS
1911 ACT (Short Form)
LOCATION: Cortez Street, between
Azusa Avenue and Citrus Street
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
to accept and file the Engineer's report.
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CITY CLERKS REPORTS - PROJECT SP-6626 - Continued
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
approving Plans and Specifications for Project SP-6626 and authorizing
the City Engineer to advertise for bids.
• RESOLUTION NO. 3926 The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
DIRECTING THE STREET SUPERINTEN-
DENT TO GIVE NOTICE TO CONSTRUCT STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND APPURTENANT
ITEMS PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5870 ET SEQ. OF THE STREET AND HIGHWAYS CODE
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AT VIRGINIA AVENUE FROM BARRANCA STREET'_TO
GRAND AVENUE."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the
body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that said
Resolution be adopted. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
PRECISE PLAN NO. 495 LOCATION: North side Garvey
STREET IMPROVEMENTS Avenue, between Sunset and Yaleton.
R. A. HALSTEAD
• Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried,
accepting street improvements, sidewalk, driveways and street trees on-.
Precise Plan No. 495; and authorizing the release of The Ohio Casualty
Insurance Company performance Bond No. 1370362-8 in the amount of
$2375.00.
PRECISE PLAN NO. 395 LOCATION: Southwest corner of
STREET IMPROVEMENTS Orange and Merced Avenues.
WEST COVINA MASONIC TEMPLE ASSO.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, accepting street improvements on Precise Plan 395, and
authorizing the release of Travelers Indemnity Company performance
bond No. 1001 in the amount of $2500.00.
PROJECT MP-69010 LOCATION: West side Orange
STREET IMPROVEMENTS Avenue, between Durness Street
AMAN BROS. INC., and Merced Avenue.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, accepting street improvements.
PROJECT SP-69002 LOCATION: Cortez Street, between
STREET IMPROVEMENTS Azusa Avenue and Citrus Street.
1911 ACT (Short Form)
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, to accept and file the Engineer's report.
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - PROJECT SP-69002 - Continued
PAGE THREE
RESOLUTION NO. 3927 The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CON-
FIRMING THE REPORT OF THE STREET
• SUPERINTENDENT RELATIVE TO THE COST OF WORK DONE PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION
NOS. 3872 AND 3873, CORTEZ STREET BETWEEN AZUSA AVENUE AND CITRUS STREET."
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Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the
body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, to adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
'NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
RESOLUTION NO. 3928 The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
ACCEPTING A CERTAIN WRITTEN
INSTRUMENT AND THE RECORDATION
THEREOF.,- CORDELL W. and HESTER
DEANE REEVES (Project SP-69001)"
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the
body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, to adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
RESOLUTION NO. 3929 The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
ADOPTED ACCEPTING A CERTAIN WRITTEN
INSTRUMENT AND THE RECORDATION
THEREOF - HENRY SHINICHI OSHIRO
(Project SP-6444)."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the
body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, to adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
PARCEL MAP 665 - LOCATION: Southerly end of
RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION AND APPROVAL Fircroft Street, south of Vine
OF FINAL MAP - WINTERS HOMES, INC., Avenue._
AND LESTER G. WILKERSON
RESOLUTION NO. 3930 The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
ACCEPTING GRANT OF EASEMENT FOR
STREET AND HIGHWAY PURPOSES TO BE KNOWN AS FIRCROFT STREET (Lester G.
Wilkerson and Gladys M. Wilkerson.)" - - -
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - RESOLUTION NO. 3930 - Continued
RESOLUTION NO. 3931
ADOPTED
•
RESOLUTION NO. 3932
ADOPTED
RESOLUTION NO. 3933
ADOPTED
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ACCEPTING
GRANT OF EASEMENT FOR STREET AND
HIGHWAY PURPOSES TO BE KNOWN AS
FIRCROFT STREET (Winters Homes, Inc.) . "
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ACCEPTING
GRANT OF EASEMENT FOR STORM DRAIN
PURPOSES (Alexander Don and Gloria C. Don.)"
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ACCEPTING
GRANT OF EASEMENT FOR STORM DRAIN
PURPOSES (Iester G. Wilkerson and
Gladys M . Wilkerson.)"
RESOLUTION NO. 3934 "A RESOLUTI(__ N OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, DEDICATING
ADOPTED CERTAIN CITY -OWNED PROPERTY TO PUBLIC
STREET PLR POSES AND ACCEPTING SAME AS
A PUBLIC STREET (Lot. 17, Tract 19448, to be known as Fi.rcroft Street - opening of
one- foot lot.)"
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said
• Resolutions.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that Resolutions Nos.
3930-3931-3932-3933-3934 be -adopted. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, accepting
street and sanitary sewer improvements installed by requirement of Parcel Map 665.
RESOLUTION NO. 3935 The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY CC)UNCIL OF
ADOPTED THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, APPROVING
FINAL MAP OF PARCEL MAP 665. "
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of said
Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopting said
Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum -------
PLANNING COMMISSION
Review Planning Commission Action of Tanuary 15, 1969.
(Items individually discussed by Council)
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried, to
accept and file the report by the Planning Department: on the summary of action
taken at the regular meeting of the Planning Commission of January 15, 1969.
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RECREATION & PARK COMMISSION
Review Action of special meeting of December 30, 1968.
(Items individually discussed by Council.)
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, to accept and file the action of the Recreation & Park
Commission action of December 30, 1968.
PERSONNEL BOARD
Board Recommendation re. Classification and Salary Consultant
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, adopting
the recommendation of the Personnel Board and authorizing the City
Manager to negotiate a contract for a Salary Survey and Classification
Study with Urban Associates, in accordance with their proposal as
submitted November 4, 1968.
Councilman Lloyd: I was present during the time the Personnel Board
was in their selection and review process of this
and I was particularly impressed by the thoroughness
and professional manner that the Personnel Board looked into this.
Motion carried.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
to accept and file the minutes of the Personnel Board dated December 12,
1968.
HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION
Review minutes of November 26, 1968.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor - I would like to request that a
correction be entertained regarding a
statement by Councilman Nichols on page 5
of the minutes that is incorrectly transcribed - a figure of 18 should
have been 8.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
to accept and file the minutes of the Human Relations Commission dated"'
November 26, 1968.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
a)Federal Sign & Signal Corp re Rolling Green Plaza request
regarding height of sign (Appeal of Planning Commission decision)
Mr. Menard: This letter is their appeal as this was not a public
hearing item in that respect. It is my understanding
that anyone has the right of appeal to my decision,
to the Planning Commission, which they did. The Planning Commission
upheld my decision and they therefore have appealed the decision of the
Planning Commission to the City Council. It is not a public hearing
item by the Ordinance, so therefore they would simply appeal this
decision by written communication. This is my understanding of it,
unless the City Attorney......
Mr. Wakefield:
Mayor Gleckman:
This is correct.
Legally, can we take action on this?
Mr. Wakefield:
Yes, you can take action formally on the action of
Planning Commission
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or reversing the action.
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PAGE SIX
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - Federal Sign &Signal Corp.,.- Continued
Mayor Gleckman,: Mr. Menard - there was no hearing held at the
Planning Commission regarding the. -height of the
sign?
Mr. Menard.. No. My.decision to allow a sign of 35' was
appealed in written communication to the Planning
Commission and handled under Department reports.
Councilman Nichols: In other words it was in the field of
administrative decisions, with no variance being
requested. They did not come to you seeking a
Variance, but were seeking an interpretation of the Ordinance and you
gave them that interpretation in a purely administrative decision. Is
that correct?
Mr. Menard:. That is correct.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor.,- my reaction would be if they are seek-
ing a variance of the Ordinance they ought to apply
for a Variance. I don't believe that I would, for
myself, entertain an appeal of an administrative decision. I would
favor granting a hearing on an appeal of this administrative matter.
Mayor Gleckman: Gentlemen - we just had the minutes of the
Planning Commission summary action and we accept -
filed, and this was Item 1 in those minutes.
Now as I understand it the party is appealing that particular decision to
this Council without requesting a hearing.
Councilman Lloyd: Does this constitute their appeal - legally?
Mr. Wakefield: Yes, this constitutes their appeal.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that Council
deny the applicants request for a hearing based upon the fact that it
was an administrative decision and that the Council at this time -feels
it should uphold the same decision.
Councilman Lloyd: I read the minutes very briefly and as I under-
stand the regulations, while they stated in their
letter that our Municipal Code —Sections 9213.1.1
B 15 does not specify any height limitations that they can determine....
I would like to speak to the Planning Director and ask him to reiterate
what he has already said that there is a restriction.
Mr. Menard: Mr. Lloyd - this is one of those particular items
that was quite frankly left out of the Sign
Ordinance when it was revised some number of months
ago, and it has been caught so to speak. We have never had a height
limit on these particular signs and we discovered this -.some 8 or 10
months ago. Each new Ordinance does take this into consideration and
sets a 25' height limit.
Councilman Lloyd: In carrying that forward, are there other signs
down there which are indeed above the 25' or
comparable to what they are asking?
Mr. Menard: This is the only shopping center in West Covina
in that particular area and there is .only one other
detached sign on the site which conforms with the
Sign Ordinance and it is on a Standard Service Station. This would be the
only sign in this particular locale, within the City limits of West Covina.
Closeby in the County there are signs which are higher.
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - Item 1 - Continued
Councilman Lloyd: Would the lowering of the sign to 25' create a
problem in view obstruction, and would it cause
any engineering change in the development of the
sign - to the best of your knowledge?
•
Mr. Menard: No, I don't think so. The staff was guided by
the height that would be allowed on a roof sign
and I'used my authority to raise it to 35', but
from the point of view of lowering to 25' I don't believe there would
be any engineering problems. And whether lowering it 10' would restrict
the sight - I don't know. because I don't have that in my mind well
enough. The 35' allowed by myself I feel gives them ample identification,
but 25' - this is perhaps another question.
Mayor Gleckman: Is there anyone here this evening that is
familiar with this request? -
Harry Cooper (Advi.sed Council he was the representative
1100 N. Main street of the Sign Company)
Los Angeles, California
Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Cooper - I assume you were apprised
of this appeal. and are aware of the appeal made
here and so far with the testimony presented by
the Planning Director and from what I can tell,_it is my opinion in
view of the recommendation by the Planning Commission that the suggested
limitation placing your sign to 35' would not constitute any great
detrimental factor to the.:advertisement of your Center, therefore, my
•
question would be - - would this in anyway mitigate against what they
are -:trying to do - customer attraction?
Mr. Cooper: Well we were trying to get 45'. My clients are
afraid that the Service Station will cut off the
lower portion of 'the sign. The sign has four
portions or panels and they feel the lower sign would cause the lower
panels to be cut off.
Councilman Lloyd: In view of the Planning Directors testimony
this would not constitute_.a blocking of the sign
do you have any objections.if it doesn't block
the sign? If you were assured in your mind that your sign could be
read, would that then be acceptable?
Mr. Cooper: As long as they would get good visibility but they
are down in a hollow there.
Mayor Gleckman: My comment would be if this would meet the four
qualifications for a Variance, then I would say
the applicant would have the right to appeal on
the order of a Variance, but on the order of the Council overriding
an administrative decision without a hearing before the Planning
Commission for reasons of a Variance, I am afraid it would open
up Pandora's box and we would, instead of holding public hearings for
Variances from this point on, get continuous letters from certain
applicants for things not granted administratively. I feel we will be
setting a precedent and I would agree with -Councilman Nichols' motion.
Any other comments by Council? (None)
HEARINGS
Motion carried.
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HEARINGS - AMENDMENT NO. 94 - CITY INITIATED REQUEST for a proposed
amendment to Section
9212 of the zoning ordinance to modify the C-2 Zone approved by Planning
Commission Resolution No. 2107 (Community -Commercial.) Hearing closed on
December 9, 1968, and held over for a decision.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that
Amendment No.. 94 be approved. Motion carried on roll call vote as
follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
WRITTEN COMMUNI.CATIONS - Continued
,b) Resolution of Board of Supervisors of San Bernardino
County re;Ontariu--International Airport.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
t_o receive and file.
c.)�. Pasadena Chamber of Commerce re Retention of Naval
Undersea Warfare Center
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
• to receive and file.
d) Communication from Building Industry Association requesting support
of Resolution re Bidding Procedures.
Motion by Councilman Nichols,, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that this item be referred to staff for a report and
recommendation back to Council.
e) Resolution from CitZ of Burbank re County Services
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
that this item be referred back to staff.
f) Request of Boy Scout Troop 468 to locate camp site display
on corner of Sunset and Cameron Avenues.
Motion by Councilman -.Lloyd, seconded.by-,Counc�lman,.Chappell, and carried,
hat this 'be referred to 0,taff for a' report and''re66rnmeiiaat 6n back -t'c' l
it Council'.- > ���� �o
(Mr. Aiassa asked if `there was sufficient time; 'arid he replied "Yes.")
g) Resolution of City of Daly City re. Tax Relief for property
owners
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that this it6m be received and filed.
h) Request of Central Business District Committee
Mr. Aiassa: The request is that Council accept the members that
are now on the Committee as officers and further
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - ITEM h - Continued
PAGE NINE
also they would like to recommend any changes, such as if anyone misses
three consecutive meetings in a row, it would create an automatic
absentee and they would like to recommend to Council for the increase
of new members and also a need to make a larger Committee and would like
the privilege of recommending additional persons for the Committee.
Councilman Chappell: I don't read it that way.
(Mr. Aiassa read the communication, explained, Council discussed.)",
Mr. Aiassa: I would like to make the suggestion that we notify
the Chairman Mr. Phil Wax that we will go through
the Mayor to confirm the appointments with Council.
Councilman Chappell: I would like to recommend that we accept their
officers. Have you appointed all the people on this
Committee - Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Gleckman:- The Mayor, with the approval of the City Council,
has appointed every member presently on the
Central Business District Committee, and the way
I read this letter is they now want the authority to decrease or increase
that Committee as they see fit to work in the best interests of the City.
I don't really have any objection to it but as part of the record we are
giving up that particular sanction if we accept their recommendation.
If they, feel this is the manner they can work best for the community I
would have no objections personally knowing the people involved and at
. the helm.
Councilman Lloyd: I think we have some good control in that we can
always expand the Committee. If they increase it
or decrease it - I believe the individuals involved
here are trying to seek that elasticity whereby they can best accomplish
the job assigned. I would be in favor.
Mr. Wakefield: Mr. Mayor - the City Council gets:-, to decide
whether or not this is an official Committee of
City or a Committee of the Chamber of Commerce
or a Committee of lay people of the community. So long as the members
of the Committee were originally appointed by the Mayor with the
approval of Council it seems to me the appropriate way to do it, if you
wish to continue the official status of the Committee, is to simply
accept the recommendations that may come from the Committee regarding
changes in its membership -.but the Council would then approve actually
and authorize the appointment of a new member or the approval of the
removal of an existing member.
Mayor Gleckman: Thank you, Mr. Wakefield. The motion would read
then that they be given permission in the manner
of their request with the idea this Council would
still retain the prerogative of approving or disapproving of their
action.
So moved by Councilman Nichols, seconded by
Councilman Chappell, and carried.
i) Standard Oil Company - Request
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried,
that the recommendation by staff be approved by Council granting
permission to Standard Oil Company of California to conduct vibroseis
testing along the following streets as listed in memo and, covering
points numbered 1 thru 6.
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CITY ATTORNEY
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
Change No. 410 - Haefner Chrysler
PAGE TEN
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMEND-
ING THE MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO
REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES (Zone
Plymouth Agency)."
Motion by� Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, waiving further reading of the body of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that Council introduce said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll
call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
RESOLUTION NO. 3936
ADOPTED
Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, DENY-
ING VARIANCE NO. 632 - Carpeteria."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objection, waive further reading of the
body of said Ordinance.
is Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that said
Resolution be adopted. Motion.carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
RESOLUTION NO. 3937 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
EXPRESSING CONCERN OVER THE
INCREASING NUMBER OF DISRUPTIVE ACTIVITIES ON THE CAMPUSES OF
CALIFORNIA EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS."
Mayor Gleckman Hearing no objections, waive further reading of
the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that said
Resolution be adopted. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: None
ABSENT. Councilman Gillum
MEMORANDUM RE POLICE AUCTION
Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
Mr. Wakefield: A question was raised by Council as to whether or
not the existing provisions of our Code could be
changed to permit the proceeds of an auction
conducted by the Police Department to go into a Special Fund for the use
of the Police Department. After researching the matter I came to the
conclusion that the City may not legally put the proceeds in a special
fund but the money must continue to be deposited in the General Fund of
the City, otherwise it might revert -',,-to the State of California.
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CITY ATTORNEY - Re. Memorandum Police Auction
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that this report be received and filed.
* USE OF CITY SEAL BY WEST COVINA CYCLIST
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that this
report be received and filed,
Councilman Nichols: A comment - there is a statement made by a member
of staff in the report, which if accepted by the
Council might have some implications. It states -
it is the opinion of the Recreation & Park Department that if the group
designs a seal that is not identical to the City seal no action would
be necessary by Council....... I would not agree with that - by using
"identical" the change could be so slight, and by our receiving and
filing this report it might indicate acceptance of this statement. I
think Council ought to reserve to itself the review and approval of any
use of the City seal or any semb-lahae-to the City seal as long as it
comes in fact to the attention of the City in any way.
Councilman Lloyd: If Councilman Nichols wishes to make that in the
form of a motion, I would be glad to second it.
Councilman Chappell: As I read it right now we haven't any specific
Ordinance saying we can prohibit the use of the
seal. So first we should have an Ordinance to
. prohibit use -before we can go any further.
Mr..Wakefield: It is true as Councilman Chappell has indicated,
there is no present provision in the West Covina
Municipal Code that makes it a misdemeanor or a
crime to use a facsimile of the City Seal without permission of the
City Council, such a provision could be added to your Ordinances but
I think even in the absence of such a provision the City Council has
the ultimate control over the City Seal.
Mayor Gleckman: We have a motion to receive and file and a
second, if the party who made the motion will
add to it - that any approval must be sanctioned
by the City Council.
Councilman Lloyd: I will accept that as a change to my motion.
Accepted by Councilman Chappell.
Motion carried.
CORTEZ.PARK PROPERTY
(Mr. Wakefield asked for permission to add this item to the Agenda.
Council granted permission.)
Mr. Wakefield: Council will recall that in the Spring of last
year you authorized the condemnation of a piece
of property to be added to Cortez Park and
serve as a parking lot. The condemnation of that property was
complicated by the death of Mr. Garnier. The attorney for June White
has complained that the original Resolution did not specifically
describe a water line located on a portion of the property, and this
is true. The Resolution originally adopted did not specifically identify
the location of this line because city staff was unable to locate it.
The Court has ordered the attorney for the property owner to provide a
description of the location of the pipe line, and that has been done,
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CITY ATTORNEY - Cortez Park Property - Continued
and I would request that the City Council amend its former Resolution
to specifically describe the pipeline which is to be excluded from the
area to be taken. I have such a Resolution prepared.
RESOLUTION NO. 3938 The City Attorney presented
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMEND-
ING RESOLUTION NO. 3770 TO CONDEMN
CERTAIN PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC. BUILD-
ING AND GROUNDS."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of
the body of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that said
Resolution be adopted. Motion carried on .roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Lloyd Prell We met with the staff last Tuesday and all I
1308 Dibbin would like to do is bring into proper perspective
West Los Angeles what we are asking. There is in the City of
West Covina 78 buildings in.which there are 400
coin operated washers and dryers. There are
issued 12 licenses. What in essence we are asking for is that the
City of West Covina raise their license income from $400. which is
$1.00 per machine to approximately $540. We are not asking for a
reduction in taxes. We wish you to know that we feel'that per machine
taxes are discriminatory. We want you to know that whether we end
up with a net increase or decrease in this particular city is not of
our concern. We do not allow ourselves to go on record anywhere as
favoring per machine taxes .because we feel that they are discriminatory.
To pay a debt to the staff we prefer gross receipts as a basis for
paying business licenses, but since you use a per employee basis we
are perfectly willing to accept that as a basis for setting up our
business licenses but we are not peacefully ever going to accept
per machine taxes even though the City of West Covina has established
a relatively fair rate if they were going to adopt this type of tax.
Thank you.
William Bloomfield I don't want to repeat what Mr. Prell says,
109 Santa Monica Blvd. but I am in essence in agreement with what
West Los Angeles he said. To add to it, the average is about
Pres., Webb Service Co. $140. gross income per year. To get that up
to $1,000 it would take about 7.14 machines.
This would mean that at $1.00 per machine ire would be paying a business
license on the basis of roughly' >7.14 per thousand. Now if you charged
the ordinary businessman�7.14 per thousand on his business license I am
afraid he would be quite put out. To turn it around the other way our
Company roughly has 150 machines in the City and if we would pay on the
basis of $1.00 per machine it would be equivalent of a company paying
a license of having 25 employees in the City. 150 machines would be
equivalent to about /2 of 1 employ. Most cities on a gross receipts
basis charge anywhere from 2-/2 to 100 per thousand dollars. If we pay
the license of 150 and this were a gross receipts city charging 100
per thousand we would then be paying a business license equivalent of a
company doing one and a half million dollars. However, our Company
grossed approximately $25,000 last year in the City of West Covina.
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - Continued
There are four different ways charging business
licenses and we have 81 cities here in California and we agree with
all four ways. The first one, which we feel is probably the most fair,
. is the gross receipts basis, which of course is recommended by the
League of California Cities. The second is per employee;.the third is
a flat rate; the fourth, isa vehicle. Now we go along with anyone of
those four license methods, which ever one you choose. Now this
happens to be a per employee city and we are glad to pay on a per
employee basis. I understand Xerox which is a service company pays on
the basis of a truck, and we are glad to go along with that. The
only point is a per -machine basis greatly distorts the tax. Thank
you.
CITY MANAGER
1. Business License Revision - Fees for Coin Operated
Washers: -and Dr ers
Mr. Aiassa: We have a written report, also Mr. Windsor and
and Mr. Dawson are present. They have met'with
the -gentlemen several times.
Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Windsor - I noted that you had $1.00 per
machine all the way up the 'Line - is that true?
Mr. Windsor: That is correct.
Councilman Lloyd: These people have made a presentation and would
what they have proposed materially alter the
income to the City?
Mr. Windsor: No, a difference of about $140 in our favor.
Councilman Lloyd: Are you',prepared to continue your advisement to
this Council to continue the $1.00 per machine
tax?
Mr. Windsor: We felt the $1.00 per machine was the most
equitable situation for the majority of the
operators, therefore we felt it would be better
this way. However;_ we have heard from 10 other people all protesting
the per machine rate. We therefore feel since there is such an
overwhelming majority of the operators against it we felt it would be
better to go along with what they do want.
Councilman Lloyd: I tried figuring this thing out and I came up with
a sliding scale that said anyone operating a coin
machine would pay a flat rate of $10.00 and
anything beyond 10 machines would pay $1.00 per
machine. This was because in my mind the
operator who has one machine and pays $1.00 to us in essence does
almost irreparable damage to the large scale operators because he
bleeds off a little of the business, sufficient to hurt but doesn't
contribute to the solution of the overall problem, which is a total
service to the community. Not that I am against little business
people because I believe I can qualify as possibly the smallest in
town. But in view of what has been said my immediate inclination is
to give them what they want.
Mr. Aiassa: The staff has continuously and always wanted
a gross receipts tax and as long as we don't
have gross receipts we are going to have this
problem. So with 10 out of 12 .- and demoncracy still operating we might as well give them what they want.
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CITY MANAGER —Fees for Coin Operated Washers & Dryers - Continued
Mayor Gleckman: How many laundromats do we have in the City?
•Mr. D. Dawson I can't give you the exact figure, but I would
Administrative Aide say approximately 5.
Mayor Gl.eckman- What would you say the average amount of
machines are that they have?
Mr. Dawson: Approximately 30. And they pay us a business
license of $40.00 a year up to 30 machines and
$1.00 per machine over 30.
Mayor Gleckman.' Did you consider this in comparison to the
people who have these machines in apartment
houses because if these machines were not in
apartment houses they would have to go to a Laundromat in order to
get their laundry done. I am trying to figure out how you came up
with charging a man that is in business and doesn't -have an excess
amount of machines — charging him a license to be in business regard-
less of how many machines he has.` If,_;he.is an'.apartment owner and has
a coin operated machine you want to go to the per dollar machine
excluding the license. In other words are we out for a dollar amount
figure or are we trying to be fair to everyone in this type of business
whether it be a route carrier or a laundrromat.
Mr. Dawson: The staff proposal gave two options; 1 - a $1.00
per machine and the other the exact thing we
Gocharge the laundromats under the existing
ordinance.
Mayor Gleckman: In other words there really isn't any considera-
ti'on for the man who has 5 machines in an
establishment or up to 30. My only comment would
-be that I am trying to figure out what would be fair and equitable for
all. If you are going to reduce why make it easier to have a coin
operated route than to have a business of laundromats in the City?
The other thought I had would be that I don't think we are out after
as much money as we can get, but we are trying to be as fair and
equitable as we can and if we came up with a flat rate of $45.00
that would mean the man that has 5 machines would pay $9.00 per
machine and the man with 151 machines is paying maybe 300 per machine.
Unless you had a break point such as up to 30 would pay $30.00 and
anything over would pay $45.00, etc. And it would still. give us the
same amount of revenue.
Councilman Lloyd. I would like to ask Mr. Bloomfield some questions.
Mr. Bloomfield - in view of the presentations
made here it is obvious a point of principle with
you and you..r associates, so we the Council are concerned with a fair
and equitable method of.having you pay for the right to do business
within our community - wherein you don't have a business license.
The point I would make is how do you reconcile the business license
which costs $45.00 plus $5.00 for each employee - that is one method;
and then you come in '�Ln.d don't have a business License...
Mr. Bloomfield: Yes I have a business license and I believe
they all do. The operators are virtually all
asking to pay more money in this City. Mr. Meany
only has 3 machines in the City and he is willing to pay $45.00
because in Los Angeles he has many hundreds of machines and if they
charge $L.00.in West Covina, the City of Los Angeles is going to want
$10.00 or the City of Westminister is going to want $15. or Stanton
$10., etc., and we are here as a matter of principle.
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CITY MANAGER - FEES COIN OPERATED WASHERS & DRYERS - Continued
Councilman Lloyd: What was the basis you preferred paying on?
Mr. Bloomfield: We go along with the League of California
Cities, which is gross receipts. The second
is per employee; and some cities charge a flat
rate no matter how many employees we have. Now however you charge
,Xerox or Culligan this is usually what the other cities charge us.
Councilman Nichols: The element of concern I have has not been
brought up here this evening really and that
is the per machine tax for this type of
business in this City and to my best recollection this is not the
method used of taxation for other parallel types of businesses in the
City. The reference was made to Xerox and Culligan - and you could
go on and on and include the coin operated machines in motels such
as ice vending machines, etc., all on private premises and not
.normally open to the general public trade. And in none of these
.places are the owners or operators being charged on a per machine
basis. So that when Culligan's comes in to the City or some others
of that type, they are in fact being taxed on some other basis. So
if we consider this matter of the per machine tax for the route or
private premises we are in fact discriminating against this particular
operation because then I think you have the same facts to consider
as you do for the Culligan people and others of that type. That was
originally my own basis for objecting to it. Now capping that and if
this organization of people think that West Covina's method of
taxation will probably influence the City of Los Angeles, they are
probably more optimistic than I am. But I am most happy to oblige
them in that their stated position rather coincides with my own
attitude for other reasons. I think their willingness to come in and
seek the flat charge is a very good alternative answer to the per
machine tax. In conclusion I would say again, I would want to
differentiate between the washing machine located in the laundromat
on the street that is open to the public and those types of coin
operated machines located on private premises, so I would favor the
flat rate charge or the alternate suggested by staff.
Councilman Chappell: Do we charge the flat rate and also for the
employees? Or do you just get the machine
charge?.
Mr. Dawson: No we have a flat rate and then for every
machine over 30 regardless of the number of
employees.
Councilman Chappell: How do we handle the Webbr-s Bread man?
Mr. Dawson: This is a truck delivery and the charge is $20.
per truck per year.
Mayor Gleckman: You have 12 business::licenses involved on this
sheet - what is Valley Washer Service paying
37 machines. what was their bill all of last year? They have
Mr. Windsor: We charged them $2. per machine.
Mayor Gleckman: $74. My question is - no place in this report
do you show us .... you.show what a $1.00 per
machine would bring and what a flat rate would
bring - can you tell me what we brought in last year from these 12?
Mr. Windsor: $800.
Mayor Gleckman: Basically we are not talking about increasing
from $399. at a $1.00 per machine to $540. but
we are talking about reducing from $800 down to
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CITY MANAGER - FEES COIN OPERATED WASHERS & DRYERS - Continued
$540.00.
Mr. Windsor: Well - either way.
• Mayor Gleckman: There was no place in this report that you
stated that. I don't want the Council to
think that if we went to the flat rate we would
be taking in more money than we charged these gentlemen last year or
that we would be taking in more money than if we charged at the
method of $1.00 per machine. My own feelings would be that I would
have no objection to the flat rate charge. Because if the recommenda-
tion from staff was a $1.00 per machine and that was their recommenda-
tion, we would bring in $399.00 and if the particular people involved,
10 out of 12, state $45.00 as a business license that they would
agree to pay and it would bring in $540. I would be willing to go along
because I am always willing to go along with people who want to pay
more money.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that
Council approve changing the licensing structure for coin operated
route type washers and dryers units to a flat rate of $45.00
excluding laundromats.
City Clerk:
What about the apartment house owners that own
their own?
Mayor Gleckman: Are you charging them now?
City Clerk: Yes.
Mayor Gleckman: Unless they come in and we change the rules,
Mrs. Preston - then you will continue to
charge them as stated in the Ordinance.
Motion carried.
THE CHAIR DECLARED A RECESS AT 8:55 P.M. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 9:06
P.M.
CITY MANAGER - Continued
2. Traffic Committee Minutes of January 7, 1969 - Item #3
Held over from January 13, 1969 meeting (Stop sign at
Hollencrest and Casa Linda)
Mr. Aiassa:- We have Mr. Schaefer with us tonight to answer
any questions.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Schaefer - no place in the criteria, as far
as the topography of the land, because what
really creates the hazard at this particular
intersection is the shape of Hollencrest and how it meets at that
intersection?
Mr. Schaefer-: Site criteria itself is actually studied by the
Traffic Committee on each request. The
criteria listed is taken from the Manual on
Uniform Control Devices. The items themselves do take into considera-
tion on several different accounts on criteria the items of site,
distance and other problems that would be associated in this
relationship.
Mayor Gleckman: I see the two criterias here but I don't get
out of those the topography we are involved
with. Unless I am not interpreting those two
conditions properly.
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CITY MANAGER - TRAFFIC COMMITTEE ACTION ITEM #3 - Continued
Mr. Schaefer: The main reason you don't see specifically
what you are looking for here is because the
request is for a stop sign, not a warning signs. and
• criteria which ,is recommended for this type of situation is not
covered. In stop signs - a stop sign only determines right-of-way, it
is not to slow traffic down and these are not the warrants for stop
signs and this is what was used as the basis for answering the original
request. The Traffic Committee's knowledge for the use of signs and
the study of the situation indicated that a warning sign indicating a
curve was the proper signing.
Mayor Gleckman: What you are saying then is that the criteria
for a stop sign on.this particular corner would
be one of a political policy making rather than
one of significant interpretation of the code.
Mr. Schaefer: In effect, yes sir.
Mayor Gleckman: Thank you.
Councilman Nichols: In the report on Page 2, paragraph 2, it says .
(Read from report) Would you.please resolve
those two statements?
(Mr. Schaefer referred to a drawing on the board and explained.)
Councilman Chappell: How many accidents have we had on that inter -
section?
Mr. Schaefer: Right angle accidents -'would be reason for a stop
sign and there have been none since 1962 in our
files. There have been approximately 3 cases
that have run off the roadway in that location in the same period of
time. But again a stop sign is not to slow traffic down, that is not
its function. The problem there, as indicated by the Mayor, is coming
down a hill and coming around. a curve;and it needs a warning sign
rather than a stop sign.
Councilman Chappell: You already have one there.
Mr. Schaefer: Yes, this was approved by the Traffic Committee
roughly a year ago.
Councilman Nichols: Going back to the statements - again "under
normal conditions, etc. etc."
(Mr. Schaefer explained.)
Mayor Gleckman: -Well my comment would be that maybe the purpose
of the stop sign is not to stop traffic from the
Traffic Committee's point of view, but if it is
going to stop accidents and save lives than I would say this particular
stop sign should stop traffic.
• Mr. Schaefer-: Mr. Mayor, I would like to make one comment.
As you know, roughly one year ago we put up the
warning sign to warn people of,this curve,
since that time one man has gone over the road.in that general
direction. Now if a person cannot see a warning sign, he is not
about to see the stop sign and he is not obeying the law one way or
the other and you cannot stop an individual from disobeying the law.
Mayor Gleckman: I agree with your statement only I know I would
be more apt to stop for a stop sign than a
warning sign or a yield sign.
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CITY MANAGER - TRAFFIC COMMITTEE ACTION ITEM #3 - Continued
Mr. Schaefer: The other point is this is not a thru street and
actually everybody going up through the area has
to be somewhat familiar with it because they went
up the other way to get there. So the individual coming down the
. street is going to take it the way he is going to take it no matter
what.
Mayor Gleckman: If there is a stop sign there wouldn't you say he
is inclined to slow down at least to make the stop?
Mr. Schaefer: Not necessarily so, because this is a rather
remote location and the chances of enforcement
are somewhat slim. I have a few reservations
about this area because continuing on up the street I can see where
cars have been dragging up the hill up there and these individuals
are probably the same ones that would probably run the stop sign
at the bottom and run off the roadway.
Councilman Lloyd: I am in question with you on that statement.
I rdise the statement that people in the
City or surrounding areas would intentionally
break the law and while I have no opinion as to whether a stop sign
should or should not be put there other than the recommendations
given by staff and our advisors - - I feel quite strongly about the
point because generally speaking I think the general public in our
area tend to be law abiding and what we are trying to achieve is not
a pnnitive approach but one of directive or guidance approach, which
will aid the motorist to safely go about his normal flow of business
• with a minimum of danger as a result of the construction of these
streets, and I think this is really what we are facing and I don't
think it is political or a great social problem. And I would like to
point out that we are not dealing with people who intend to circumvent
or break the law but we are trying to deal with those people who
want to move around the streets with relative safety and I think this
is the major point. If it is your recommendation, and I presume it is,
that nothing be done, than so be it. I would certainly be guided by
your expertise in this area, but I would find some question in my
mind to say that people gill generally break the laws - given an
opportunity. I do, however, recognize that this may offer some
inducement or some attractiveness for someone to do some dragging
and if so, then I would begin to feel, as the Mayor does, that a
stop sign would tend to slow this activity down. The reason I say
that is I have seen other streets - a specific area in the County -
which in reality lies as an island in the City - where there has
been some dragging and as soon as a stop sign was installed it ceased.
Mayor Gleckman The criteria being used and shown by the Traffic
Committee, as far as I am concerned, is good
criteria. I think this is probably the only
street I know of that has this particular topography with this
particular problem and I don't think in any way that this Council
would be making an exception or overriding the Traffic Committee's
criteria if they saw fit to try a stop sign. Not a lighted sign but
the red stop sign; to see what harm it would do to have that sign
in that area versus what good it would do.
Councilman Lloyd: If this poses a problem, I don't believe it
would be irreparable.
Councilman Chappell: Do you foresee any problems with us putting a
stop sign there?
Mr. Schaefer: The traffic is quite light in the area - as it
develops further south.there might be more
problems with it, but under the existing
situation the only problem of a stop sign would be the hindering of
a small amount of citizens causing additional delay. There is
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CITY MANAGER - TRAFFIC COMMITTEE ACTION ITEM #3 - Continued
adequate visibility, so I don't think a stop sign would create a
problem. The only potential problem would be of someone zipping out
of Casa Linda because they know the guy coming northbound has to stop.
Councilman Nichols: Well I differ with that, but I wouldn't argue
this, because it would be the first time I
believe that I overrode the action of the Traffic
Committee. I wish they had recommended it, but I think they know more
about it than I do and I am not sure they are that wrong.
Councilman Chappell: How long did you observe this particular
location - the way people drive the street at
this intersection?
Mr. Schaefer: We have been out there a number of times and
driven it. We ran a survey on it - on the
speed for taking the curve. We have gone
back through our accident records and reviewed them for the last 5
years and in that time there were 3 accidents which is not an
exceptional number of accidents. (Related other areas and accidents)
Mayor Gleckman: Do you. consider an accident, when a man drives
into another means property - would that be re-
ported?
Mr. Schaefer: Yes. We consider all reported accidents to
the Police Department and we receive those reports.
41 Mayor Gleckman: If a man drives onto someone's property and
drives off again, you wouldn't consider that
an accident.
Mr. Schaefer: No we wouldn't have an accident report on it.
Mayor Gleckman: Have you, investigated all of the accidents with
Dr. Mog_-itader (Answer: Yes)
Which. means 3 since 1962. I would entertain
a motion to direct the Traffic Committee to put up a stop sign, or a
motion to accept and file the minutes of the Traffic Committee -
Item 3 - if there are no further comments?
Motion by Councilman Lloyd that Council accept and file the Traffic
Committee report and minutes on Item 3. Seconded by Councilman
Nichols, and carried. Councilman Chappell voting "no".
3. Request by Syna-Von for Charitable Solicitation License
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that permission be granted on the basis of the staff
recommendation of January 21, 1969.
• 4. Queen of the Valley Hospital Request for Exempt Business License
Mr. Aiassa: I think this matter came up at a previous
Council meeting where the statement was made
that anyone wanting an exemption should ask
for it. We have given this exemption before under the previous
budness license ordinance.
Councilman Nichols: Having the minutes of the previous discussion
attached to this was refreshing to my own
memory, and I recall now that the position I
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CITY MANAGER - ITEM /4 - Continued
took at that time was based upon my thought that the business license
ordinance was not primarily, in my mind, a device to raise revenue
but a device to regulate various types of business:activities in the
• community. At that time I favored levying the license on the profit
as well as nonprofit, on the basis that each would be deriving the
same services from the City and I did not want to begin making
objective decisions as to who should or should not be receiving an
exemption based on the services they .rendered. So it was more of a
philosophical position and I don't really feel quite as strongly now
as I did at that time. But I would be inclined to maintain the same
position barring some further information.
Councilman Chappell: I read in some report some comment by Dr. Snyder
that appeared to me that he was in'favor of -
levying the fee, but when I read this summary
here it appears to me that he was.not in favor of levying the fee.
(COUNCIL DISCUSSION)
Mayor Gleckman: Well I read this also and I put it in a different
text today than I did at that time. I looked at
the Queen of the Valley Hospital and I compared
it with what Covina does with Inter -Community Hospital and the
services Inter -Community provides and the services Queen of the Valley
provides. I say that I can appreciate Queen of the Valley's position
in our community in comparison to the other hospitals, as I am sure
Inter -Community is to Covina as to the other hospitals in the City,
and I would have no objection to granting them this exemption because
•
of this service.
Councilman Lloyd: It would appear to me then - and I am a little
nonplusscd'thdt you reversed your decision, I
frankly came to some of the same conclusions
that you. and some of the others had in this record of proceedings of
a previous council meeting.
Mayor G.leckman: My clarification has to do with my remarks on
Page 17 "......there are -many private
institutions that are giving these same
services -to the community that do not claim nonprofit...." I
in fact refreshed my memory on that point and I •was referring to
other hospitals in other communities that do not get this -exemption
but in our community there are no other hospitals that provide the
services that Queen of the Valley does, such as the out -patient care
and the home care at no charge.
Councilman Chappell: And even though the basic bed rate is the same,
that is where the similarity really ceases
because in medication, etc., they actually
charge at a no profit basis. I have checked into this. (Explained)
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that
Council grant this request of a business license exemption and instruct
the City Attorney to prepare the necessary amendment. Motion carried
• on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell., Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT Councilman Gillum
5. City of Long Beach request for Resolution supporting
Offshore Airport Study
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that
Council receive and file.
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CITY MANAGER - ITEM #5 - Continued
Mayor Gleckman: I would comment that there were articles in
the papers regarding this same proposal and
I feel it is an excellent proposal.
Motion carried.
6. Galster Park Grading minor.Revision Authority
Mr. Aiassa: This is the same privilege you have given the
staff in the landscaping contract on the Civic
Center. There will be some minor revisions
and I believe staff should handle it right in the field.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that Council authorize staff to coordinate the grading
with Sharfman & Armstrong, and make minor decisions as lieebbsary.
7. Civic Center Dedication
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell,
that Council accept the summary of recommendations in connection
with the Civic Center and that any need for modification of these
proposals be brought to Council at such time as would be appropriate.
is Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa - are we authorizing the Committee
to go ahead on the proposed budget of $5,550?
(Answer: Yes)
Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Aiassa, have the letters already been
written to the speakers?
Mr. Aiassa: Not as yet, we were waiting for the date.
The date has now been set at April 25th.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa, I don't believe this Council has
gone on record requesting a recommendation and
report from the Civic Center Dedication
Committee with regard to asking the Masonic Temple to put on their
dedication ceremony - may we have their recommendation.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
8. West Covina Disposal Company request for Rate Increase
• Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that the request of West Covina Disposal Company to hold
over to February 24, 1969, be granted.
9. Refuse Disposable Bag System Proposals
Mr. Aiassa: I would suggest that this be held over. We
are prepared for the report telling you what
the ppa e.r bags cost, etc„ but staff has not
met with Mr. Thorsen in re7_a ion to the operation.
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CITY MANAGER - ITEM #9 - Continued
Mayor Gleckman: Correct me gentlemen if I am out of line, but
I think it is a matter of policy for this
Council to make the decision whether they are
going to entertain to go above and beyond this report with regard to
the paper bag disposal. For us to tie it in to a request being made
of this Council, that has nothing to do with it and we would be in
error.
Councilman -Nichols: Well my attitude has been recognizably a
negative one, so I have been in opposition to
this from the very beginning. The only
additional thought I had was that one:of these well-to-do paper
bag companies or holding rack companies would like to come into our
City and set up a pilot project and finance it to demonstrate to
other cities that it works, but I note here that all of the proposals
so far will cost the City money and as I_am in disagreement with it
I could not vote any city funds for this city to try it out as a
pilot program. In conclusion I would take the same position as
before and that is forget it.
Motion by Councilman Chappell that Council receive and file the report
of the disposable bag refuse system. Seconded by Councilman Nichols.
Councilman Lloyd: I personally was impressed with the ease of
handling that was presented by this and I was
somewhat pleased to find that in my own home,
somehow the refuse seemed to get to the street by way of my 14 year
old son somehow a little more rapidly by this method than the other.
I do think that this concept - and I notice the staff talks about a
plastic bag versus a paper bag, the paper bag is plasticized inside -
I think the concept presented by both are very good. The only
question. I would have is would the plastics deteriorate when inthe
refuse fill as the paper was supposed to do and thereby disappear.
From the point of view of cleanliness, neatness, etc., I was frankly
impressed. I also .noted the people handling the garbage were having
an easier time with the paper bags. It isn't a total answer, you
cannot use the paper bags for 100% of garbage disposal, it simply
couldn't be done, but for a big portion this method is satisfactory.
I think it will provide cleanliness in the city, ease of operation
in handling, and it certainly adds to the aesthetics of the City,
instead of a bunch of banged up garbage cans. This in my opinion
was a step in the right direction. And I accept the fact that there
are various limitations in the financial commitments of both the City
and the collectors, and certainly from the people in the City.
But I think this is a step in the right direction and I would certainly
like to see staff pursue an answer to this. To say that the
ultimate is a banged up broken garbage can is to say we are not
prepared to make forward steps in our City. I want to see something
continued on this.
Councilman Chappell: All I can say is figuring it out when we used
it, the smallest amount of 5 bags in anyone
week. And when you use�that many bags you are
doubling the cost. So we really found it would only hold limited
. items - paper type items, but when we got to trimming cactus, etc.;
this was not the thing to use. I think you are right that we should
go this way but I believe you are a couple of years ahead of time.
Councilman Lloyd: While I appreciate what you are saying, to say
some day is like saying - when you get around
to it.
Councilman Chappell: Well that is exactly what I amsaying.
Councilman Lloyd: Then you are saying the situation that exists
today on our streets is an acceptable one. It
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has to be if you don't care to look forward.
Councilman Nichols: I would surely say that -- as compared to any
• alternative or potential 'alternative I find the
present system acceptable.
Mayor Gleckman: I tried this also and with all due respect to
you Councilman Lloyd having one child and the
family working and.maybe not eating three meals
at home you may not have the same situation that some of the families
have in West Covina where they have three, four, five and six children.
Not me, but my family eats at least three meals a day at home and we
found the 5 bags were not sufficient, and the cats in the neighborhood
made shreds out of the impregnable bag. I agree if we can seek out a
better method than what we have we should continue to do so, but if
this bag is an example of something better we would not even entertain
the thought in my house, because it didn't do the job for us and the
gardener felt they held nothing as far as what he had to do, and I
felt the cost was exorbitant. I have new plastic containers that I
haven't had any problem with and it is a lot more convenient for our
family. From our point of view we felt that this was nowhere
even near a substitute answer to what we have today. If the
comparison was based on the bags to what we have today I would say
there is no comparison, but I don't think that is what you meant.
Councilman Lloyd: No, that is not what I meant. I took the
liberty of speaking to the-peop;e in the
disposal area and I asked Mr. Thorsen what
was their reaction to the bag. He was not wildly excited and pointed
out the aspects of the economics but he admitted that the only
container on the market that was really of any permanence and
sustain over a period of time was a rubberized garbage can because
the plastic wears within a year and starts to crack and the metal
cans get banged up. The rubberized run somewhere in the neighborhood
of $15.00 apiece so this too becomes a pretty healthy expense. I
would like to see and perhaps didn't make myself clear, I would like
to see this city pursue some satisfactory arrangement so we can have
what I would consider a modern method of handling city refuse.
Mr. Aia.ssa: If I may -- one additional piece of information.
The City of Covina which runs their own garbage
collection, is going to run a pilot. After
we get the input of their_ pilot program we might again bring this up.
Motion carried.
THE CHAIR REQUESTED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ACCEPTANCE OF
GRANTS OF EASEMENT. THE COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY
ADJOURNED AT 9:53 P.M. TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. RECONVENED AT 10:20 P.M.
Mr. Wakefield: Mr.:- Mayor - the item brought up in Executive
Session does not require a Resolution, it can
be a motion to accept the offer of dedication
of streets as contained in the offer for dedication of street
purposes by G. Baucher and R. Riedel on the west side of Sunset
Avenue north of Workman Avenue.
So moved by Councilman Chappell, seconded by
Councilman Lloyd, and carried.
Mayor Gleckmane While on this subject, I would like to see
Council direct, if it is necessary to have
Council approval, that we direct the City
Atto_r-r.ey to initiate rezoning proceedings with regard to the
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site of the proposed Chevrolet Agency, which there is no doubt now
that we will not get. At the time this was passed there was
pressure being brought on this Council to bring in a Chevrolet
Agency to the City, and since that was the sole purpose of zoning
that land I would like to see the City Attorney initiate proceedings
to rezone that property back to its original zone.
Mr. Wakefield: I would be glad to start the necessary pro-
ceedings for that purpose.
Councilman Nichols- I would certainly agree with that. I think it
should be rezoned to its original use if it is
not being used for the purpose it was zoned for.
CITY CLERK
1. Astro Boys Club re. Soliciting Sale of Candy
(City Clerk explained the reason this was brought to Council atten-
tion was because of Council's previous discussion regarding
solicitation in evening hours; that this group of boys had previously
solicitated in the City but under a different group name.)
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and
carried, that this request be held over and the staff do a check on
this particular organization with the Compton Police Department, or
other agencies, and the City Manager take the responsibility for
following up on that, and staff report back to Council the informa-
tion they are able to obtain, and at that time Council reconsider
this application for licensing.
2� L for annual."Hope Sunday" solicitation
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that permission be granted to the City of Hope for the
annual "Hope Sunday" solicitation.
3. Crippled Children's Society request to place Coin Containers
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that permission be granted to the Crippled Children's
Society to place coin containers.
CITY TREASURER'S REPORT - Month of December, 1968.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that the City Treasurer's report for the month of
December, 1968, be accepted and filed.
a MAYOR'S REPORTS
1. Scientology_Business License
Mayor Gleckman. Mrs. Preston, did we receive any acknowledge-
ment and were they informed?
City Clerk: Yes, and I talked to the gentleman involved and
informed him it was coming up on the Agenda
and if he was going to renew he should get it
in immediately. I expected it in on the 20th.
Mayor Gleckman: I would entertain a motion that the
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Scientology business license not be approved prior to Council's
consent.
So moved by Councilman Chappell, seconded
by Councilman Nichols, and carried.
PROCLAMATIONS:
a) National Association of Accountants Week - February 17
Mayor Gleckman: If there are no objections, I will so pro-
claim.
No objections, so proclaimed.
b) Boy Scout Week - February 7 to 13
Mayor Gleckman: If there are no objections, I will so pro-
claim.
No objections, so proclaimed.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Compensation of City Attorney
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Wakefield, is it necessary that we go
into Executive Session regarding the compen-
sation of the City Attorney?
Mr. Wakefield: No, not at all. Technically not with
reference to salary only.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, ;
that the City Attorney be compensated at the rate of
$14,500 a year.
Mayor Gleckman: My comment is that I am pleased to see this
item on the floor for this type of money for
the City Attorney, who this Council I am sure
otherwise we wouldn't do it, feels the capabilities and the service
rendered by our present City Attorney have been most satisfactory.
Those are my feelings.
Councilman Nichols: I would certainly concur with you. This
increase is somewhere in the neighborhood
of 10 or 12%, but the fact that he has served
Council and the City well and considering other valued employees
and their increases, this is certainly in line.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
. NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
Mr. Wakefield: Mr. Mayor, I will prepare the necessary
Resolution and submit at the next meeting.
Mayor Gleckman: I.also have a letter from Mr. Gove, Con-
servation Chairman, and he would like
Conservation Week proclaimed March 7 to 14th.
If there are no objections, I will so proclaim. No objections.
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a) Budget Request for Clean-up, Paint -up, Fix -up Week
Councilman Chappell: As you know you appointed me to be Council
liaison for the Clean-up, Paint -up, Fix -up
Committee;. I would report at this time that
this has been an extremely active Committee. Don Casler has
grasped the ball, so to speak, and has an outstanding group help-
ing him. Naturally we come to'"the point. where funds are necessary
to get the job done properly. We have set the week of May 18 to
24th as Paint -up, Clean-up, Fix -up Week and are ready to go.
At this time I would like to request Council to appropriate a budget
of $500. of which any unexpended amounts would be returned to the
General Fund.
Councilman Nichols: What are you going to use this money for?
Councilman Chappell: We are going to attempt a citywide mailing
with a piece of literature explaining to all
the people what we are going to do and when
to put out stoves, refrigerators, etc., items that will be picked
up at this time and which are not picked up by the trash collector
throughout the year. We are going to the service groups and also
asking them to help us financially, hoping we will get the whole
sum of money, but we need some money to start.
Mayor Gleckman-: A point of clarification. Any literature
that is sent out to the cross section of
people in the City, I hope you will take
into consideration having no other names on it than the City
Council.
Councilman Chappell: You don't want the Committee itself to sign it?
Mayor Gleckman: I don't believe it is a good idea, because the
City is sponsoring this.
Councilman Chappell: But the Committee is putting up the work. We
were going to have a letterhead with the
down the side. names of the people on the Committee running
Councilman Nichols: With the Parade Committee it is the Parade
Committee and we contribute the money and
we co-sponsor but we are not doing it. So
they stand on their own feet and what they do and it doesn't say
City of West Covina. But if this is a Clean-up Committee operating
on their own, and not part of the City government then that is
different. But if it is going to be a Clean-up, etc., Committee
and operating and appointed by the City Government than their names
need not be on it.
Councilman Chappell: In my own mind it is not city done. There
are already about 15 key people in town going
• out now organizing their own committees
and to me this was really something to see, all these facets of our
Community involved so enthusiastically in this.
Mayor Gleckman: The only thing I am thinking about Councilman
Chappell is this Committee was authorized by
this City Council and to authorize funds to
put names on a letterhead of the people serving on the Committee
may set a precedent with some of the other things being done in this
City by similar Committees if they make the same request. I just
didn`'t feel a precedent should be set in this manner. I could see the
Narcotics Committee, and the Central Business District Committee
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coming and asking the same type of letterhead with the same amount
of names.
Councilman Nichols: But if we authorized some mailing to the public
on the part of the Narcotics Committee than
what would be wrong?
Mayor Gleckman: I am not saying there is anything wrong. As
long as Council is aware of setting the
precedent.
Councilman Nichols: Would you object to it?
Mayor Gleckman: I say it is setting a precedent and I am
afraid we may offend someone.
Councilman Lloyd-: My immediate reaction is first, we want this
type of thing to go forward. $500. won't
cover your mailing, muchless the cost of
letterheads. I would be glad to show you how you can make up a
letterhead at a reasonable price, but $500 will not cover the cost
of mailing.
Mr. Aiassa: This is just to start and then we will go to
the various service groups solicitating their
help.
Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Aiassa, I take it then that you are in
favor and are supporting this?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes.
Councilman Lloyd: I didn't get that information at first. It is
a good idea, I wasn't questioning it at all but
I didn't realize Mr. Aiassa was involved.
Mayor Gleckman: Well I think you should have the City Council
on that letterhead because we are going to
take the burnt of it.
Councilman Lloyd: If you are envisioning someone else to come
along and pick up the tab and you already
have some sort of a commitment, I would say
without any reservation, while I will certainly lend my support
and do what I can as a businessman in this area, I want it very
clearly understood as far as this Council is concerned that I want
no arm twisting on any agency which serves this City over and above
their normal service, in this type of activity. Not that it has
been planned but less:�someone gets in error on this point, let it
go the other way.
Mr. Aiassa: Matter of fact we are planning to go the other
way.
• Councilman Lloyd: I would be favorably disposed towards it then.
And with the use of a typewriter I can show
you how to set up a very nice letterhead at
absolute minimum cost.
Mayor Gleckman: Councilman Chappell has made a report and
requests a budget of $500. Also I brought
up the point of the names. As far as I am
concerned I think this is something that should be done each year.
This Committee is set up by this Council and there will be other
people serving on this Committee and if something good or bad
happens this Council will pay the price one way or the other.
If you want to give this out as a Committee function and then walk
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away from it - fine, but if it is a City function I feel it should
have the Council's name on it.
Councilman Nichols: Many of these 4ctiv ties;,are sponsored by such
groups as Jr. Chamber of Commerce, and
different organizations and somebody obviously
has to sponsor it. In this case it is a Committee and it has to be
a Committee appointed or authorized by the City of West Covina.
Someone has to take responsibility for it. If the Chamber comes in
and a'sks'.to do it and they just ask for permission of the City
then they are responsible. I think it can be resolved in the terms
of whatever letterhead you use that you identify the fact that it
is an activity authorized by the City and that your Committee is
one authorized by the City.
Mayor Gleckman: That is what I am saying, otherwise you will
have some problems.
Mr. Aiassa: I think before Mr. Chappell makes any big
fast movements he will keep Council informed
on all items as they come up but at the
present time we have no funds and we need this authorization by
Council. We do have funds in the General Fund account for such
activity.
Mayor Gleckman: I would need a motion authorizing a budget
of $500. for the Clean-up, Paint -up, Fix -up
Committee headed by Councilman Chappell.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that
Council appropriate $500.00 towards the Clean-up, Paint -Up, Fix -Up
activity scheduled for the week of May 18 to 24. Motion carried on
roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES:- None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
Mr. Ai.assa: This is probably a bit in advance, but there
should also be a proclamation for the week of
May 18th.
Mayor Gleckman: If there are no objections, I so proclaim.
No objections, so proclaimed.
Councilman Chappell: I also attended my first meeting as liaison
to the Human Relations Commission. A
publication, term paper, has been published
by some students at Cal -Poly throwing a very bad light on our
Human Relations Commission. I think the letter is erroneous. Page
after page of misrepresentation, half truths and no truths. I would
like to have a copy presented to each member of the Council for
their reading and maybe we would like to have the Professor in charge
. of the class invited to a Council meeting, or we might want to talk
to him. For the type of work I know this group has been doing in the
past, it certainly has not been reflected by some five students who
supposedly had done a fine job of investigating and in my mind did
absolutely little or no investigation of this Commission that we
have. So I would like to have a copy given to everyone on Council,
so they can read this document and comment.
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Mayor Gleckman: I have a letter from Senator Richardson regarding
home rule and he is introducing some legislation
and asks our support. (Read letter.) I would
like to turn this over to staff for analyzation and a report back to
Council, so we can give our Senator some action.
You also all received copies of thsdedication
invitees. If you have anybody to add that is not on the list I would
ask that you do it.
We also have a report from Mr. Wakefield
regarding restrictions upon changes of zone. Please analyze and
come back with some type of comments in the future.
DEMANDS
Motion by Councilman Nichols requesting Council to authorize for
tonight only, the signature of Councilman Chappell on the warrants
for approval. Seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Chappell, approv-
ing payment of demands totalling $225,236.32 as listed on Demand
Sheets B402 and B403, and payroll reimbursement sheets. These have
been checked and found to be correct. Motion carried on roll call
vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Councilman Gillum
Mr. Aiassa: Mr. Mayor - on February 8th West Covina Beautiful
Group will run their Valentine's Dance - do you
February 8th. want to proclaim West Covina Beautiful Week as of
Mayor Gleckman: If there are no objections, I will so proclaim.
No objections, so proclaimed.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and
carried, that this meeting adjourn at 10:45 P.M.
ATTEST:
CITY CLERK
APPROVED: / C), / % � 9
MAYOR
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