08-12-1968 - Regular Meeting - Minutes•
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
AUGUST 12, 1968.
The regular meeting of the. City Council was called to order by Mayor Pro Tem Gillum
at .70 35 p.m. in the Council Chambers at West Covina City Hall. The Pledge of
Allegiance was led by Councilman Nichols; and the invocation was given by the
Reverend Roy R. Bullock, Delhaven Christian Church.
ROLL.CALL
Present: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Lloyd, Mayor
Pro Tem Gillum, Mayor Gleckman (Arrived at 7:39 p.m.)
Also Present: George Aiassa, City Manager
George Wakefield, City Attorney
Lela Preston, City Clerk
H. R. Fast, Public Service Director
George Zimmerman, Ass't. City Engineer
Owen Menard, Planning Director
APPROVAL. OF MINUTES
July 22, 1968
- Approved as submitted.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that the
minutes of the meeting of July 22, 1968, be approved as submitted.
July 25, 1968
- Approved as submitted.
Motion made by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
the minutes of the meeting of July 25, 1968, be approved as submitted.
CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
PROJECT SP-69002
STREET IMPROVEMENT
LOCATION: Cortez Street from Azusa Avenue
to Citrus Street.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Gillum, and carried, that
City Council accept and file Engineer's report; and approve the plans and specifications
and authorize City Engineer to advertise for bids.
RESOLUTION NO. 3849 The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY C'OUNCIL.OF
ADOPTED THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, DIRECTING THE
STREET SUPERINTENDENT TO GIVE NOTICE TO
CONSTRUCT CURB, GUTTER AND DRIVEWAY
APPROACHES PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5870
ET SEQ. OF THE STREETS AND HIGHWAYS CODE
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA ON CORTEZ
STREET, FROM AZUSA.AVENUE TO CITRUS STREET. "
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - RESOLUTION NO. 3849 - Continued
Mayor Pro Tem Gillum: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body
of said Resolution.
(MAYOR- GLECKMAN ARRIVED AT 7. 3 9 P.M.)
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City Council adopt
said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: None
ABSTAIN. Mayor Gleckman
PROJECT SP-68002
STREET IMPROVEMENT
1911 ACT (Short Form)
Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd
LOCATION: Francisquito Avenue from
westerly City limits to Valinda Avenue.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
City Council accept and file Engineer's report.
Motion by Councilman,. Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
City Council approve plans and specifications, and authorize the City Engineer to
advertise for bids.
RESOLUTION NO. 3850 The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
ADOPTED THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, DIRECTING THE
STREET SUPERINTENDENT TO GIVE NOTICE TO
CONSTRUCT CURB, GUTTER AND DRIVEWAY
APPROACHES' PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5870
ET SEQ. OF THE STREETS AND HIGHWAYS CODE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA ALONG
OF THE
FRANCISQUITO AVENUE FROM WESTERLY CITY
LIMITS TO VALINDA AVENUE. "
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of
said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman. Chappell, that the City Council
adopt said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO. 3851 The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
ADOPTED CITY OF WEST COVINA, ACCEPTING A CERTAIN
WRITTEN INSTRUMENT AND DIRECTING THE
RECORDATION THEREOF, "
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of
said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman. Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that City Council
adopt said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - Continued
'RESOLUTION NO. 3852
ADOPTED
Mayor Gleckman:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE. CITY COUNCIL.OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ACCEPTING A
CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENT AND
DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF."
Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of
said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman.. Gillum, sem nded by Councilman Chappell, that City Council
adopt said resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO. 3853 The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
ADOPTED THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, DECLARING ITS
INTENTION TO VACATE A FUTURE STREET -
TRACT 28988. "
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body of
said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman. Gillum, that City Council adopt
said Resolution.
Councilman. Gillum- Mr.. Aiassa - if my memory serves me correctly is this the
one that the house partially sets on the proposed right-of-
way at the present time?
Mr. Aiassa: The staff report goes into the history of the program and we
also have a map and some pictures. I would like to have the
staff give a brief summary of this problem.
(Mr. Fast, Public Service Director, summarized the problem and used the map for
illustration purposes.)
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Fast, you say the. City has never accepted dedication
of the right-of-way?
Mr. Fast: That is correct. It was simply an offer of dedication.
Mr. Aiassa: We accepted the final map and it is earmarked and identified
that Council has this in suspension. We have never accepted
it, it is in limbo.
Mr. Fast:
The tentative map is generally good for one year. They did
not request extensions and they have expired.
Councilman Gillum: In the staffs personal opinion, if we were to relinquish the
right to this property or not accept the dedication - is it
possible to develop the property behind and still have an
adequate access street to serve that area, or are we going to have to buy a house and
swimming pool in another couple of years?
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - RESOLUTION NO. 3853 - Continued
Mr. Fast: The reason the staff recommends that we do vacate is
because it could be developed with the access via Baal&--S
Hill Drive.
• Mayor Gleckman: Mr.. Wakefield - what would be the dispostion if we had
no action on this at all? In other words until the property
develops to the east of this and we know exactly what our
street pattern is - what advantage to the City of West Covina is it to vacate this
particular parcel?
Mr.. Wakefield: There is no advantage to the City. The legal situation is
that until the City acts to accept the dedication the only way
the offer to dedicate can be removed is to go through a
vacation proceeding and once that is done the right to and thereafter is lost by the City
and they would have to acquire a new right should that situation arise in the future.
But until the City actually acts to accept the dedication the property continues to be the
property of the adjoining owners subject only to the city's right to ultimately accept.
Mayor Gleckman: In the deed of this particular property it must show an intent
of dedication and I am just curious as to how an owner can
buy that parcel of land without prior knowledge that there is
a deeded street potential to the City and buy it and turn around and build a house on it
and a swimming pool and then come into the City and say would you vacate?
Mr. Wakefield: The facts must have been known to the buyer.
• Mayor Gleckman: Thank you.
Councilman Gillum: As long as this dedication, whether rejected or accepted
is there a cloud on the title of either piece of property?
Mr. Wakefield: Yes, to the extent that the City has the right at some future
time to accept the offer to dedicate that 46' strip for public
purposes and when the City does that the City's right
becomes paramount to the adjoining land owners and they would have to remove whatever
improvements they put in on the property.
Mr.. Aiassa: I don't want the Council to feel that this is a problem
pushing staff. This came before staff on 5-13-68 by a
letter from Orland B. Murray, Civil Engineer
representing the owner of the property and this was the reason it was brought before
Council. All we need is a disapproval or intent of approval.
Mayor Gleckman: Any other questions by members of the Council? If not, we
have a motion to adopt and a second.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols,, Gillum, Lloyd
NOES: Mayor Gleckman
. ABSENT: None
Councilman Gillum: Mr.. Aiassa - is it possible to let the Council know if we
have many other such situations throughout the City that
we have houses or swimming pools on in similar situations?
Could staff come up with a report so that we might know?
Mr.. Aiassa: We have reviewed about 97% of the situations. This is the
only one that has occurred in the last 10 years, but I will have
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - Resolution 3853 - Continued
staff follow-up if you would like to know.
Councilman Gillum:
PLANNING COMMISSION
I would like to know.
REVIEW PLANNING COMMISSION .ACTION- OF AUGUST 7, 1968
Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman. Gillum, and carried, that
Council accept and receive the Planning Commission action of August 7, 1968.
PARCEL MAP NO. 665 LOCATION: Southerly end of Fircroft Avenue,
D. W. THOMPSON south of Merced.Avenue.
APPROVED 3 lots - 3/4 acre —Acre District 11A
Approved by Planning Commission
Mayor Gleckman: I don't understand why this is under Planning Commission.
Can you explain - Mr. Wakefield?
Mr. Wakefield: No, I don't know.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa, explain to me why we have Parcel Map 665
under the Planning Commission secion?
Mr. Aiassa: This was a requirement of Council to accept these lots -
Mr. Menard will present the report.
(Mr. Menard, Planning Director, read the report and a map was presented.)
Motion by Councilman Gillum for the approval of Parcel Map 665 - D. W. Thompson,
subject to the conditions set forth by the Planning Commission. Motion carried on
roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
TRACT NO, 28400 LOCATION: Westerly side of Hollenbeck
JAMES E. MYERS, JR. Street between.Alaska and Thackery Streets
7 lots - 2 acres Area District 11A
Approved by Planning Commission on
August 7, 1968.
(Mr. Menard, Planning Director, presented a brief verbal summary of this item.)
Mr. Menard: The Planning Commission altered in one minor respect the
Tract Map as submitted (explained.) With that added
condition to the staff report as submitted, the Planning
Commission approved the tentative map tract which now with that added condition
applies in all respects to Area District 11A.
Councilman. Gillum: Mr. Menard - Lot 6 what is the footage on the cul de sac?
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TRACT NO, 28400 - Continued
Mr, Menard: 30'
Councilman Gillum: That is going to be their frontage on that street?
(Mr.. Menard explained the determination procedure of lot widths in the City and that
it was done by Ordinance.)
Councilman Gillum: I think we had better take a look at that part of it. How
wide is a driveway usually?
Mr. Menard: Usually 25' .
Mr. Zimmerman: In residential sometimes as little as 12' .
Mr. Menard: We have a number of situations like this in the City based
on this lot width.
Councilman Nichols: In fact the City is full of lots with a narrow street frontage
so if we go to changing it now I hope we do not try to do it
retro-actively.
Mayor Gleckman: What would happen to the property to the north?
Mr. Menard: The problem the way I understand it on this piece of land
(pointed out on map) and it now appears that the engineer
• brought drainage to this property to the center of this
street and then underground and out here.
Mayor Gleckman: Is staff satisfied?
Mr. Menard: Drainage facilities must meet city engineer's specifications,
Mr. Mayor.
Councilman. Nichols: What is the width of this proposed street?
Mr. Menard: The street will be constructed at this time to a 45' width
but there will be an additional 6' r.equired when this small
piece subdivides, bringing it up to our standard width of
52' for a short cul de sac.
Motion by Councilman Lloyd to approve the study plan as submitted by the Planning
Commission on tentative Tract No. 28400 subject to all the conditions mentioned, as
well as the added condition mentioned by the Planning Director. Motion carried,
all were in favor,. Councilman. Gillum signifying "no. "
SCHEDULED MATTERS - HEARINGS
• 1969 WEED AND RIBJBBISH ABATEMENT PROGRAM LOCATION: Throughout the City.
RESOLUTION OF INTENTION
HEARING OF PROTESTS
Mayor Gleckman:
City Clerk:
Madam City Clerk do you have the affidavit of mailing as
required by law?
I do.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that
Council receive and file.
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HEARINGS - 1969 WEED ABATEMENT PROGRAM - Continued
Mayor Gleckman: Madam City Clerk have you received any written protests
or objections against performing this work?
City Clerk No, I have not.
THIiS>IS_THE,.TIME AND PLACE_)FfOR THE,,PUBLIC HEARING OF PROTESTS ON THE 1969
WEED AND RUBBISH ABATEMENT PROGRAM.
Mayor Gleckman: Does anyone present have any verbal protests? If not,
let the record show there are no written protests and no
verbal protests.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City Council
authorize the City Engineer to proceed with the taking of bids and order the abatement
of weeds and rubbish on those properties described in Resolution of Intention No. 3834.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
AMENDMENT NO. 89 - REQUEST to amend Section 9211 of the
CITY INITIATED Municipal Code re, modification to C-1 Zone.
Approved by Planning Commission
Resolution No. 2066.
(Mr. Menard, Planning Director, verbally presented the report, stating that the
Planning Commission has accepted and forwarded to City Council for their adoption
if it meets with their approval, Planning Commission Resolution No. 2066.. )
Mayor Gleckman. Mr. Wakefield, this is an amendment to a modification of a
zone, doesn't this have to be published and advertised?
(Answer: Yes..) Has it been done Madam City Clerk?
City Clerk:
Yes, it has.
(Mr. Menard, Planning Director, then explained the proposed changes, point by point. )
THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AMENDMENT NO. 89.
IN FAVOR
None.
• OPPOSED
None.
HEARING CLOSED. COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Menard - does the N-C_ zone replace the C-1 Zone
entirely?
Mr. Menard: Yes this is the recommendation of the Planning Commission.
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Councilman Nichols: Are there any uses in the N-C zone that are not: now in the
C- 1 zone?
Mr. Menard: Several of them. (Read those now in the N-C zone,)
Councilman Nichols: If more uses were removed I assume these uses are only
permissable in C-2 . Do you happen to know offhand some
of the uses that were removed in the C-1 zone?
Mr. . Menard:
Councilman Nichols:
come out of this at this
basically correct?
There wasn't a great deal. (Gave a few examples of the
type removed
The Council's charge at the time this came up was to review
the more intense zones largely in terms of the type of uses
to be included in them, and it appears to me that what: has
stage is an upgrading of the light commercial zone. Is that
Mro Menard: I would have to agree with you. It was felt that the uses
basically allowed in the C-1 zone were appropriate, it was
just the development standards such as landscaping require-
ments and the quality that was hopeful, had been left. out.
Councilman Nichols: It is then somewhat an effort to achieve a similar upgrading
in the light commercial zone that: have fallen under the
•Ordinance recently adopted - the S-C zone, to achieve in
the zone structure an upgrading to solve the problem of the multitude type of uses as
much as to improve uses in the zone
Mr, Menard: This is correct with particular attention having been paid to
those zones which would result by their location with direct
exposure to residential whether it be multiple or with direct
exposure to .single family residential; and attempts to high landscaping standards to
create compatibility in buffering through artificial means.
Councilman Nichols: In this section you talk about 4 acres for a neighborhood
commercial development - - this zone would still apply to a
50' x 150' commercial lot?
Mr. Menard: This is correct. In specifying the size requirements a
series of small lots could be combined to create a
neighborhood commercial zone as well as those integrated
designs
Councilman Nichols: I am not making my question clear. Mr. Jones owns a lot
on Service Avenue that is zoned C-1 at the present time
and the lot: is 75' x 180' and he wants to come in and
build a store. Will this zone cover this? Or will this supercede or supplant the C-1
• zone ?
Mr. Menard: The recommendation of the Planning Commission is that those
areas now zoned C-1 would become automatically zoned
neighborhood commercial, and the Ordinance which would adopt
this zone would so specify.
Councilman Nichols: What about the man with the small lot?
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Mr. Menard: If at the time of the effective date of t:he new commercial
zone that individual would enjoy a parcel that was non-
conforming and he would have right of development - at
least in my opinion.
Councilman Nichols: This opens up an area of concern that I would like clarifica-
tion. Say this Mr. Jones wants to build a Stop and Go
Market on any street - they have been building them on sites
of 100' or 150' or whatever it is, - under this Ordinance he could not develop that:?
Mr. Menard: This is not correct, at least in my mind, unless
Mr. Wakefield would have something to add to it. He would
enjoy a legally nonconforming parcel and if that parcel were
zoned C-1 at the time this became effective it seems to me he would still enjoy C-lo
Councilman. Nichols: I understand that but what if he wanted to come in and ask
for zoning to build - - say he came to this City and
applied for zoning on any type of commercial usage in this
City in the future under this zone that would formerly have been C-• 1 and doesn't own
any parcel of less than 4 acres?
Mr. Menard- Yes - on a parcel that is less than four acres - under
several situations the most common being on a piece of
land sized as you .indicate right alongside of existing
C-1 and integrating the design of the facilities into the design of the already existing
neighborhood shopping center, And there was a definite purpose in this. (Explained
in detail..)
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Menard - did I understand you to say that if this were
passed - - everything that is C-1 now if this were to be
passed it would automatically fall into the N-C zone or do
we have to take certain action?
Mr. Menard: There are several ways it could be handled, . The. City
Council, it would appear could elect t:o decide on those
particular areas that were ideally located for Neighborhood
Commercial zoning and so specify "in the commercial official zoning map and advertise,
etc. The City Council in adopting this Ordinance Amendment, it would appear to me,
could say as we did in the Office Professional, that all zoning now titled R-P shall
become known as O-Po This is how we did the conversion of R-P to O-P three or four
months ago
Councilman Gillum: Mr. Wakefield- - is it possible for the Council to lift zoning
on property that has been standing for a number of years?
Mr, Wakefield: No. I think the purpose of this Ordinance is to in effect
replace the C-1 zone. . So you end up, if this is adopted,
in effect with a new name for.:&n"existing--z.onf6,.with
additional restrictions attached and conditions attached to the development within this
zone. To answer your question specifically all of the property that is now zoned C-1
would end up in the Neighborhood Commercial zone by action approving this recommenda-
tion, or no property would end up in the neighborhood commercial zone and you would
continue the C-1 zone until there were specific applications rezoned to the N:-•C zone
In other words it is all or none, you can't at this hearing on the basis of this
recommendation of the Planning Commission, pick and chose as between individual
properties currently zoned C-1 o You must either rwjehi<_p them all or none
Councilman Chappell: When they come in for this zoning they have to have a precise
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plan, we approve the precise plan and zoning at the same time and they then decide to
change the precise plan do they have to come back and go through the whole procedure
again or can they build anything, once they get the zoning?
• Mr. . Menard: The precise plan.Ordinance of the City would apply. A
typical procedure would be a person would come in and
submit his precise plan and they would be heard together
by the Planning Commissiom'o If any change were to be made on that precise plan it
could only be made over my signature if minor, and if major, resubmittal to the
Planning Commission on a completely different plan. All of which still would be re-
quired to meet the Ordinance
Mayor Gleckman: Are you saying - Mr, Wakefield - that legally this Council
can change the conditions underwhich a man has his
property zoned and that he must comply with this without
notifying the man? In other words a man has presently a C-1 zone in this City
that calls for certain things he must comply with - if this is more restrictive and we
automatically place it N-C in place of the C-1 and put more restrictive measures
on the property without notifying him that he has additional conditions that he must
comply with - is this legal?
Mr. Wakefield: That is the purpose of this hearing, This is legal.
Mayor Gleckman: Is it legal for us to limit the amount of hours and would
that same thing then apply to all commercially zoned
• property C-1 in the City of West Covina - - which means
if a restaurant today in the City of West Covina or a service station, etc. , is in a
C-1 zone and we put these limits of hours in - that those same hours would apply to
those present developments?
Mr. Wakefield: No sir. Those conditions would only be prospective
The existing operators would have the right to continue
operating as they now do
Mayor Gleckman: Then wouldn't anyone coming in for N -C zoning be at a
disadvantage with the present people operating under C-1
as far as hours of operation?
Mr. Wakefield: Could be
Mayor Gleckman: Okay. I just wanted to make that point clear. I think when
you start restricting people as to,when they cap be open and
when they must close in a C- I zone,. I think. you are asking
for complete control of a manns individual business. He may want to stay open longer
because he is running a sale, etc. I would hate to be the one sitting up here saying I
am controlling that business - that man from staying open certain hours when his
competitor up the street can stay open. I couldn't buy that in an Ordinance.. I am
sorry, It is unfortunate that when you do come up with a good zone you come up with
something that in my opinion would be bad for the people. You can't vote for the whole
zoning but unless we get some consensus of opinion I would have to go the other way.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor - I react somewhat the same way. I think this
zone is a noble effort that we all recognize must be
achieved. I think it has some flaws in it and I think it
needs more work. The basic thoughts that I have that I would like to leave with the
Council are: 1 - if you are developing a 4 acre or larger shopping center you are
likely to have a liquor store and then you come along with an Ordinance that requires
nothing will operate after 10 p.m. at night. To me it is an unworkable feature. I
think there are types of uses that go along with that. There are many, many uses that
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have a normal accepted use beyond 10 p.m. Secondly, if I understand correctly what
is being proposed here, it says in effect - beginning with the'adoption of this
Ordinance and from here on out that no new light commercial use can be granted in
this City zoning except in 4 acre blocks or larger. , Now if the City grows and
develops it would seem to me that there are inevitably going to be --J:,,,e very fine
commercial type uses that would not require four acres, and that if we tie up to that
extent to say that you will need .... 4 acres or more, that we are again saying West
Covina does not want to continue to grow and develop. I think that 4 acre figure in
there is too rigid. I think we would live to regret it. I think it needs some greater
flexibility. In the terms of the upgrading .conditions, I would buy all the way through,
but the point the Mayor made on hours, I would offer as a rigid part of the Ordinance.
I believe we are asking for trouble by adopting the Ordinance and will be required to
make exception after exception .and with those two features in there I would be reticent
to support it.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Wakefield - is it possible for us to reopen the hearing
and hold this matter over for a study session, or is it
necessary to hold the hearing open - can we keep it closed
and discuss with the Planning Commission and Planning staff?
Mr. Wakefield: I think it would be safer to hold the hearing open.
Mayor Gleckman: I think this right now would meet with a disapproval by
the Council for some very good work done by our Planning
Department, and I think there are a few areas that have to
be straightened out before I could buy this Ordinance I think the intent is good and a
lot of things involved are good but there are those one or two things that we :could
discuss to come to a better means of understanding and I think it should be done with
the Planning Commission and Planning staff.
Councilman Gillum: Did we close the hearing?
Mayor Gleckman: We closed the hearing but I would like to have a motion
that we hold this over for a study session with the hearing
held open - can we do this?
Mr. Wakefield: Yes, you should reconsider your action with regard to
closing the hearing and the hearing should be held open
for further consideration and study with the Planning
Commission and Planning staff.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that
Council reconsider the closing of the hearing and the hearing be held open.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
this matter be held over to a study session on September 10, 1968, at 6 p.m. , with
a joint meeting with the Planning Commission.
UNDERGROUND UTILITIES WAIVER NO. 1 LOCATION: Sunset School, 851. South
WEST COVINA SCHOOL DISTRICT Sunset Avenue.
REQUEST for waiver from the West Covina
Municipal Code Section 7501 Chapter 5,
which provides installation of underground
utilities, approved by Planning Commission on July 17, 1968.
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UNDERGROUND UTILITIES Continued
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa - did the recommendation have a time limit
on it?
Mr. Aia s sa : No'it did not have a time limit on it.
• Mayor. Gleckman: Madam City Clerk do you have the notice of publication
and mailing?
City Clerk: Yes.
Motion by Councilman GiTliiiri, 'sec'nd'ed.by,C.ouriciltian.hlbyd, and carded; that
Council receive and file.
THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGo
IN FAVOR
None.
.OPPOSED
None.
HEARING CLOSED. COUNCIL, DISCUSSION.
Mayor Gleckman: The only comment I would have is that I believe a time
limit should be added to the recommendation
• Councilman Gillum: Mr. Menard - have you been contacted by the School
District on this?
Mr. Menard: Yes, the application was forthcoming from the District and
I discussed this matter sometime ago with Mr. Eastman,
the .Assistant Superintendent.
Councilman Gillum: It says it is temporary, is this correct?
Mr., Menard: Yes.
Mayor Gleckman: Councilman Nichols, I believe you can add some light.
Councilman Nichols: The West Covina Unified. School District has leased on a
year to year basis approximately one half of the site of the
Sunset School to the. County of Los Angeles, which in turn
is operating a school for exceptional children at that location. The School District,
if I understand it correctly, is making application for the waiver except in fact the
waiver is being requested by the County of Los Angeles to enable them to move several
temporary portable classrooms into that location to handle some overloading they have in
their facilities, so it is a County School, and it is temporary. But what is temporary in
this world, I don't know.
Councilman Lloyd: You have come into the question that I have - Council-
man Nichols., but I wondered if you could shed additional
light on this. My feeling at the present moment, while I
am 100% in. favor of this type of activity, we -turn around and ask commercial
interests to have underground facilities, and although there is no question about the
worthwhile qualities of this project, nevertheless, I think as the Mayor has already
pointed out, we will have to have a time limit on this, or some communication from
the County indicating what their intentions are,
Councilman Nichols: I would ..'.tend to agree. I am only trying to cast some
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light on the subject. On one border is the city yard with overhead wires and in front
of these temporary units are existing temporary units built in 1948 and wires are
all strung through there so there are wires on all sides at the present time. . But I do
think there should be a limit put on it.
Councilman Gillum. Mr.. Menard - on the temporary buildings either the School
District or the County would have to come back with precise
plans for the location?
Mr. Menard: The School District is of the opinion ....
Councilman Gillum. Mr. Menard, I am asking your opinion, not their opinion.
Mr. Menard: This is evidently the right they have enjoyed in the past,
as nearly as we could determine that on some of these kinds
of facilities they have not had a precise plan. The way I
understand it at the moment it is the intent of the School District to exercise their
prerogatives and not apply for a precise plan. This is my understanding verbally.
Councilman Gillum: I think we even require Recreation & Park people when they
want to do something regarding signs, etc. I would hate
to sit: up here and say that the School District would not have to
file a precise plan for something within our City. Is it possible, Mr. Menard, to take
this request: and make it along with the precise plan, because I don't particularly --
to be very honest with you gentlemen, I think if the School District is going to put
something up they should be compelled to comply, just as anyone else has to in this
community.
Councilman Lloyd: I think Councilman Nichols has already pointed out that it
is not. the School District. . Would we go to the County -
Councilman Nichols?
Councilman Nichols: I don't know. I am getting over my head.
Councilman Lloyd: Well it seems to be a very mushy area . First of all I am
in accord with Councilman -Gillum in this case. I feel
something more specific should be required and the fact
that we have overhead wires in our City, the fact that we have other temporary
buildings since 1948, and the fact that we have done a lot of these things in the past - -
I realize that in the judicial area it is always nice to go back and determine what has
been done, but I don't think it is necessary at this point. In this area we are trying to
upgrade at the present time, and I think it is time to ask all agencies, whether it is
our own School District or the County, to be a little more specific in their intent both
as to time and structure.
Mr. Wakefield: Perhaps I can help a bit here. If the actual construction
on the leased ground is being undertaken by the County
• Superintendent of Schools then the County is not bound by
the City's zoning ordinance. They are not required to file a precise plan. A School
District is bound by the City zoning ordinances subject to the prerogative of the
Board of Trustees - a 4/5ths vote is needed to except itself from the requirement.
In this particular matter the application was made by the School District for a waiver
of the city's underground utility requirement, so the only thing that now pends before
the City Council , whether or not: the waiver requested by the School District to permit
the ;construction of the overhead lines will be granted. You can, if you choose,
condition the granting of that: waiver.,_on�_a time';ba'sis .and you can require the District
to renew its application at some future date if it desires an extension of time.
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UNDERGROUND UTILITIES - Continued
Councilman Gillum: What you are saying is that the County can come in to this
City and lease property from the School District and we
have no jurisdiction over what they put up on there?
• Mr. Wakefield: That is correct,
Councilman Lloyd-, If we grant that - - you mean they can just move in automa-
tically without our permission?
Mr. Wakefield: Yes. The County can acquire the property, whether by
purchase, lease or condemnation, and then it has the right
under the existing State Law to put any kind of a structure
it chooses on that property, no, matter where it is
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Nichols, that Council
approve the Waiver Number. 1 on the underground utilities for a period of 5 years
Councilman Gillum-, I am not objecting to the request for the underground
utilities, but I am concerned that we are granting
something here and it has been said to me many times -
it all comes out of the same pocket, so I can understand why we are doing it.. But
I'll be darned if I can accept this thing of the County coming in and leasing property
from the School District and then telling us to jump in the lake and they will put: what
they want: on the property. I just don't accept that and if it means not approving this
to get some satisfaction out of one of them then I vote against it. And I am not
• against the School District requesting it, it just irritates me that the County can come
into this. City and take such an action. , And I know it is a State Law, Mr. Wakefield.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows-,
AYES-, Councilmen Nichols, Chappell, Gillum,. Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES-, None
ABSENT-, None
(Mr. Menard asked permission of the Mayor to clarify a point, he felt he had left the
impression with the Council that the School District had never presented a precise plan
on its facilities in this City, which � s not correct.)
CHAIR DECLARED A RECESS. AT 8-, 55 P.M. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 9-, 05 P.M.
SLIGHT MODIFICATION NO. 52 LOCATION: 510 Dawley Avenue, east side
LORIN Co RIMER of Dawley Avenue, north of Service Avenue
REQUEST to allow reduction of the area and
lot depth requirements approved by Review Board on May 13, 1968; called up for hearing
by City Council; approved by City Council on June 24, 1968; reset for hearing by City
• Council on July 22, 1968.
Mayor Gleckman-, Madam City Clerk, this has been advertised?
City Clerk: Mail notices were sent.
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SLIGHT MODIFICATION NO. 52 - Continued
THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SLIGHT MODIFICATION
NO. 52
IN FAVOR
Donald Jo Mahoney At the hearing where this came up for final Resolution
506 Gretta unfortunately I was away at the time of the hearing and
West Covina upon reading the minutes of the hearing, certain things
came up which,I believe I confused the Council on, and
that is why this hearing was held over for tonight
There was mention made that: I had previously obtained the
same type of variance on.Gretta Avenue and nothing had been done on the property
since the Council had approved. The fact of the matter is the Council approved with
a final resolution a lot split on.Gr.et:ta and I received formal notice on December 28, 1967.
Within a week I went to the Flood Control and advised I was ready to go ahead with the
purchase of their surplus property and they advised they would draw up the papers.
However., during the course of drawing up the papers the Flood Control came across a
cloud on the title. Originally the Flood Control had condemned the land adjacent to
the present wash between Valinda and up to the point where the dark spot appears on
the map, that is the Water Company's property - and that whole section which
encompasses Graybar, Dawley and Gretta Streets, was originally developed by
Gladstone & Holmes. After acquiring this land from Gladstone & Holmes, somebody
at the Flood Control failed to record the transaction and this had to be lifted before
they granted me the property and it was a matter. of 90 days before they had prepared
• the legal matter. They applied to the court and the court gave them a ruling on
April 17th, I gave them my money for the property and they gold me it would be 30 days
to prepare the final papers. (Explained the proceedings.) Final papers received on
July 31.. So in essence I was held up 5 months by the Flood Control, however I: have
prepared a parcel, map which.I am, prepared to file and also a preliminary map on the
property which I am prepared to file. Another item that occurred at the time of the
June 24th hearing -, I was asked if I owned the property and I believe I said I dial and
perhaps that was a iaoor choice of words - we had entered into a sales agreement with
the owner on April 24th and two weeks later we applied for the Slight Modification
and if I may I would ask Mr. Wakefield to ascertain as to the certified escrow
as to the date and to the fact there are no contingencies whatever in the escrow
instructions. In other words this sale is not: contingent upon proper financing,
obtaining approval of the zone modification or anything else. It is a straight
bona fide sale. As far as we are concerned we have bought the property and I think
the legal implications are that if for some reason somebody wanted to buy that
property tonight they would have to approach us to consumrrate the sale
The other item raised was that on Gretta Avenue I: had
offered the lot for sale. That is not true. . I have my house for sale on Gretta and
have since sold the house. I did indicate the extra lot was available to that purchaser
and that one only, As far as the Slight Modification goes, as indicated in the
testimony, this was approved by the Administrative Review Board. These Slight
Modifications and Variances have been given in a number of circumstances in the
• past. However, under section 922.2 the requirements before a Variance is granted
should show that there are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances 'not applicable
to other proppTty in the area and we have shown that. Also the Variance is necessary
for the preservation and enjoyment of a substantial property right possessed by other
properties, which we have shown. The granting of such Variance will not materially
be detrimental to public welfare, etc. , and that we have shown and we have
substantial evidence to back that up; and the granting of such a Variance will not
adversely affect a comprehensive general. plan. When we started into this deal we
originally talked to all City Departments - showbdAhem what we had and nobody in
the professional staff of the City Planning Department, Building, Engineering, Public
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Works - they could find no objections to what we were doing, We received an un-
animous approval :at the 1public hearing which the Administrative Review Board held.
Some of the other Variances that have been granted in this area - Variance No. 50
five lots; (mentioned and explained several examples.) Now the lots we are
talking about butt against the Wash to the north and the Suburban Water Company to
the east. We have a certified FHA appraisal on Lot 24 made on.August 8 of this year.
of $23, 400. The last sale that we know about in the area was a year ago on Gretta -
the hoes-e has roughly 100' more than this house and it had an appraisal a year ago of
$23,400 so when you consider the additional amount of space this house has compared
to this and in the lapse of a year the normal °inflation' or appreciation of property would
compensate for the difference in appraisals. This property today is worth more.
(Mentioned several other homes for comparison with regard to size.)
So it is inconceivable to me when it is said that this will have an adverse effect on the
area , when the truth is we are prepared to put a larger home here with a larger lot area.
It just doesn't make sense. . I would like to show a picture of the preliminary layout
of the house we intend to put up. (Left pictures of house as evidence.)
IN OPPOSITION
Bernard Gallup First of all on behalf of myself and some other people that
518 Graybar ,Avenue have asked me to speak we wish to thank the Council for
West Covina this opportunity. There are several points of objections,
one is that of the aesthetic value of the area. Why there
are smaller homes surrounding these homes but they were built quite sometime before
this particular zoning situation was set up. The long list of Variances and Modifications
. and all area breakdowns that Mr. Mahoney has presented only gives us proof that it is
time to put a stop to the fracturing of these little lots around the City and making it look
like E1 Monte, Baldwin Park, and some of the other places in the outlying areas. We
know in this area this has not been, an in and out: situation. Some people have lived here
5 - 10 years and some are the original owners. . And they do not care to see this area
breakdown, . Should a home be built of the size planned, which I understand is 1100 to
1200 sq. ft. , as compared to the minimum size home in the area which is 1400 sq. ft -
which is far from comparable to the homes in the area. And should this home not
become saleable and the developer rents the home we know what happens to homes
when they are rented._ They get rundown and no one takes care of it and no one seems
to care about it. This is one thing we hope the Council will take .into consideration.
We have heard a lot about upgrading NTest Covina. . Let's
{iot downgrade it, keep it at least at the level it i s and not run it down, or run'it'irito
any Wash - much less Walnut Creek Wash. We know a lot of planning and money has
been, spent in this area - it is your money, it is our money and we would like to see it
put to proper use. If we want zoning ordinances let's keep them within range and
let the people who own property with zoning we know has been established - Let's keep
it that way. They say there is a financial gain to be made by the City of West Covina,
how much will. West Covina gain from a home on a plot this size which will most likely
have a parent or two, a child or two and the increased cost for services, protection,
schooling, etc.
I have petitions signed by 38 citizens and taxpayers and
homeowners who object to this particular situation. They feel it is not a situation just
in this one little area, and we have been shown tonight that is exactly the situation,
that: it is all over West Covina, that it is being rundown and not being built up. It is
our feeling that the West Covina City Council should deny the Slight Modification and
review in depth future Variances and Slight Modifications in residential areas. Thank
you, gentlemen. (Mr. Gallup left the petition with the City Attorney.
Ed Samaha I have lived in this particular area since it: was first opened.
525 Gretta Avenue I bought the first two houses - one for myself and one for.
West Covina my brother-in-law. 1W6e have kept our property up
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"Across the street it is true and I live directly across the street from the 1100 square
foot homes and those homes are kept up. But you put a home, like he wants to put,
on our Street, where he doesn't even want to live, he sold his home and if that house
isn't sold it is like Bernie said - we are in trouble. I pay my taxes. It was $230,
a year when I first moved here, it is almost $6 00 a year now. I don't care, I like
West Covina and want to stay here, but if something like this goes on, I can't. Thank
you.
Pearl M. Snyder The garage comes straight into this cul de sac and there
517 Dawley will not be room to park the car between the two driveways.
West Covina Besides that all the part in blue down from the cul de sac
would have to be just front yard and isn't something that
the children could play in and they would be playing in: the street. (Used the map to
explain.) If you look at the lot you will realize that it isn't big enough to make a
decent home for a family. I object to the fact that we should have to lose, while he
gains a profit from this.
Stan Kozr-iski I just want to elaborate a little bit .on the previous remarks
51.1 Dawley made. I own the property adjoining the property under
West Covina question. . I moved in about a year and nine months ago -
retired from the Navy. I like what I found in West Covi na
and .ghat is why I moved here. I like the square footage of my property. I have the
flood control property available to me if I had the money to buy it, which I don't.
Mr. Mahoney owns the property on Gretta that goes into the Wash, he is also asking
for parcel A for this Slight Modification. . Now I have the first option to buy the Wash
• property between me and the Wash. I don't have the capital. He would more than
likely through his development plan have the capital and on second option could pick
up this property and he could make it bigger .then. But I don't want and I did not buy
my place to have this done. I want my name on record as objecting. I live on the
west side of Dawley adjoining the property line where it says 87.33.
Mrs. Pearl Snyder Incidentally the driveway to this house will be directly in
517 Dawley front of Stan Kozciski's house, He would be looking right
West Covina straight at the cars parked in the driveway.
REBUTTAL
Donald J. Mahoney I take exception to Mr. Gallup's figure about the
minimum of square footage of the tract being 1400 sq.
feet. I do havea VA Appraisal on 506 Grett:a and it
shows - there were actually three models in there - this happens to be one of the
larger houses which is 1360 sq. ft. , and I have an FHA appraisal on 510 Lawley
which shows 1290 sq., ft. So this story of the minimum square footage of the house
being 1400 sq. ft. , is just not so. As far as the development goes we are talking
about 1200 sq. ft. and this is not a shack. The truth of the matter is that anyone
familiar with financing today realizes it is impossible to get adequate financing
on any kind of home that is under 1200 sq. ft and that it must be that at least,
with first class construction. As far as the children Jaying in the front grass - -
• I: don't know how many children play in the front grass, I don't see too many.. This
development would be in accord with all city regulations regarding setbacks in
front, setbacks on sides, etc. We have seen many instances where similar type
developments are put into areas and they certainly don't detract from the area.
HEARING CLOSED, COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Councilman Lloyd:, I have some questions. Mr. Wakefield - have you checked
over the list of people that have signed the petition?
(List handed to Councilman Lloyd.)
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Councilman Gillum: Mr. Mahoney- I know we are not reviewing the original
piece of property variance that you requested, but I do
remember at: that time - and you correct me if I am wrong -
but- at that time you were living in the house and you were buying the property next to
it - is that correct?
Mr. Mahoney: True. The only reason I sold the house was because it has
a swimming pool and I have outgrown the swimming pool.
I intend fully to stay in the area. Obviously I can't
physically inhabit two pieces of property.
Councilman Gillum: Well the reason I brought this up was I was going through
the minutes of the past meetings and you have clarified
to my satisfaction the statement that you did own both
pieces of property. It was I that asked the question - if you owned Lot 27 and you
made it very clear as to what happened. I think it is every man's privilege and right
to develop property but sir, I will be honest with you -- I do not want to become part
of speculation as far as property is concerned. To be honest with you also it appears
to be speculation in property and I am sorry I cannot become a part of that. If you
were developing, as you stated the first time, as your existing home,: I would go
along with that. But it now appears that you are going down next to the Flood Control
District and purchasing property for speculation. I am not saying this is right or
wrong, we all make- a penny. But this is the part that bothers me. The first time I
supported your request was in my own mind I thought you were buying property and
building a home on. it
• Mr Mahoney: True. This other development occurred after it was passed.
The present owner of the Dawley property had his house
on the market one and a half years ago and took it off the
market and at the time when I went around and showed everybody in the 300' circle
what plans I had for the property he indicated an interest and then shortly before we
purchased the property he became interested in property down at the beach and decided
he wanted to move there and that is how this occurred. Yes we do intend to develop
the property, put up a house and sell it and make money on it. But I still intend to
live in the area, because the area is conducive to the way we want to live,
Councilman Gillum: Well as I said Mr.. Mahoney - the original request we
granted you has nothing to do with this one, but I have to
be honest with you and say that I voted for it the first time
because I felt you were going to build something next to a house you intended to live
in, but now it appears to me it is for speculation and I am not opposed to this but will
not be any part of it.
Councilman Lloyd: It would appear from these petitions that there are a great
many people in the immediate area that very strongly dis-
agree with your proposal here. While I realize it is not
incumbent upon you to go around and make a sale to any of these people, nevertheless
it would appear to me from the presentations made, that you have done your homework
yet these people feel very strongly about it and in the reduction down to a 1200 sq. ft.
house - it appears this is repugnant to these people. In reality we as a Council - and
I am not taking a stand on the thing, as Mr. Gillum said - I have no objections
whatever to your making a profit but that is not a function of this Council and as a
businessman I would be less than honest if I didn't say that I admire your attempt to
do so, nevertheless it seems to be really an unhappy situation to these people.
Mr.. Mahoney: I might add in the matter of petitions.I can understand a
reasonable amount of interests or concern of the people in
the immediate area and naturally as a homeowner and also
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SLIGHT MODIFICATION NO. 52 - Continued
in the business I am probably more concerned with upholding values in the area than
anybody else, but I think we should recognize that there is a certain amount of
agitation going on which is alright, but if it is a matter of signatures I can stand in
front of my church or go down to my fraternal organization or my business organization
and I can produce all the signatures of people living in District Area II, it would be no
problem but the fact remains that there are 26 homes in this tract and when they
come up with 32 or whatever it is obvious they are going down into the Service area
there and those people are already living in homes that are smaller than the ones we
intend to erect and the lots are smaller and we are talking about construction that is
15 years newer.
Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Kozciscki ; you said you were in the Navy. How many
homes have you lived in during your tenure?
Mr. Kozciscki: In 24 years - it was mostly overseas. You don't buy
property to live in while in service. I still own property
in the desert that my wife purchased while I was away.
Councilman Lloyd: Have you rented any homes while in service?
Mr. Kozciscki: Yes —Government homes mostly for the last 18 years.
Councilman Lloyd- . Would you say you were a good renter?
Mr. Kozciscki: Yes.
Councilman Lloyd: And would you say you are a good homeowner at this
point?
Mr.. Kozciscki: Right now, yes sir.
Councilman Lloyd: The reason I am bringing this out - it was pointed out in the
testimony that people who rent houses are less desirable
tenants and I believe in my Naval career I rented something
like 16 to 18 houses and I was always a good renter.
Mr. Kozciscki: Well yes I was always a good renter, but I have lived
alongside of people that I didn't care for.
Councilman Nichols: Mr.. Mahoney I would like to clarify a matter somewhat
explored so far. The property where you achieved the lot
split and a variance on lot size, was that the property on
Gretta ?
Mr. Mahoney: That is the property on.Gretta and I have sold.
Councilman Nichols: Do you own the vacant lot?
Mr. Mahoney: Yes, this is the one I have had such trouble getting title
on.
Councilman Nichols: I understand, but then there was discussion in terms of
sale arid..the matter was clouded somewhat in conversation
and I wanted to clarify it.
Mr. Mahoney: What I intend to do is ..move in on Dawley while construction
on parcel A is going on.
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Councilman Nichols- That: answers the question. It is my opinion that the
people who have expressed a concern about this lot split
are probably overly concerned. I think probably when
developed in the final analysis it would not in fact depreciate that neighborhood or
hurt it. However, I am not positive and in saying what I think I am risking their
investment and not mine. I think that the burden of proof that would determine
whether or not this type of development would hurt that neighborhood is upon the
individual who decides to institute that kind of development. Mr. Mahoney, the
Council has given you a variance on a lot and you own that lot and you state you
will- be- building on that lot and you also state the property on Dawley is in escrow
and is going to be consummated and you are in fact going to move into that property.
In fact just a few moments ago you indicated you would be moving into that property
and would be building on Gretta. You will be on property immediately adjacent to
that Flood Control parcel and whether you consummated it immediately or not you
will have first call on it. It seems to me that you do also owe to the people in your
area a burden of proof that the kind of development you are referring to is one that
will not harm the property. Now my position is strictly this - if I see a house go up
on Gretta that is a credit to that street, then I would support the Slight Modification
on Dawley, but I believe I would have to take the position that I want to see with
my -eyes and believe with my heart that what is going to go up will not harm. So it
would be my thinking - and really at no harm to you - that you ought to hold off on
this matter on Dawley until you have demonstrated on-Gretta what precisely you
propose to build. At least that would be my position and I would state for the
record that I could not now approve the slight modification on Dawley, but I would
in the future make such a commitment to do so if the development on the lot at
Gretta confirmed my belief that it would not be harmful. That would be my position.
Motion by Councilman. Chappell, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the City Council
disapprove Slight Modification. No. 52. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES. None
ABSENT. None .
ZONE CHANGE NO. 396
LAWRENCE CARSON
Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
LOCATION. North side of Garvey Avenue
between Willow and Puente Avenues.
REQUEST for approval of a change of zone
from R-3 (Medium Density Multiple Family) and R-A (Residential Agricultural) to C-2
(General Commercial) approved by Planning Commission Resolution No. 2063.
Mayor Gleckman. Madam City Clerk, do you have the affidavits of
publication
City Clerk. I have the affidavit of publication and there were 38
notices mailed.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman. Chappell, and carried, that
Council receive and file.
(Staff report presented verbally by Mr. Menard, Planning Director.)
THIS IS THE TIME.AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONE CHANGE NO. 396.
IN FAVOR
Lawrence E . Carson I am joint owner of the motel - Stan. Mar - Mrs. Carson is
2329 W. Garvey Avenue the other part of the team. This request for a zone change
West Covina
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is'preliminary to what we hope will result in submittal of a precise plan for expansion
of the motel. As Mr. Menard has said, we have had the West Covina Blue Printers
in this -location for the last four or five years. It is a very small addition to our motel
but we have found that we are going to have to make some attempt to broaden our
ba-se-of-income and with this in mind we would like to put our blueprint business
out on the- freeway and advertise to better advantage, and would eventually like to add
• -a few more units. There is a possibility that as time goes on and as we increase our
number- of units that we may get into a Pancake House or something of that sort.
This is what we have in mind and it all depends on being able to obtain financing
and -it may be- something we have to wait a little while for, but we felt the zone
change in conforming to the City requirements was the first step. Thank you.
IN OPPOSITION
None
PUBLIC PORTION OF HEARING CLOSED. COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
Councilman Gillum: A comment to Mr. Carson. If more people would come
down and be as honest with us as you have been, we
would not have as many problems. I appreciate your
honesty as to what you would like to do. I think this whole area is changing and
-eventually we will see an altogether different view of property on both sides of the
freeway and I think this request for a zone change is a step in this direction and
therefore I would support this request.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman. Nichols, that City Council
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approve Application No. 396 for zone change, as recommended by the Planning
Commission. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
CHAIR. CALLED A RECESS AT 10 P.M. COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 10: 07 P.M.
PRECISE PLAN NO. 545
RAY GILLILAN
LOCATION: Northeasterly corner of Sunset
and Francisquito Avenues in the R-A zone.
REQUEST for approval of a precise plan of
design to construct an apartment complex
approved by Planning Commission Resolution. No. 2060. Called up by City Council on
July 8, 1968.
(Mr. Menard, Planning Director, read the Planning Commission Resolution. No. 2060.
Verbally explained with the use of the displayed plot plan.)
Mayor Gleckman: Madam City Clerk, do you have the affidavit of publication?
City Clerk: Yes and 87 mailed notices were sent out.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that Council
receive and file.
THIS. IS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON PRECISE PLAN NO. 545
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PRECISE: PLAN NO. 545 - Continued
IN FAVOR
Ray Gillilan (Presented a picture view of the proposed building and
5640 Scotwood Drive explained) The Precise Plan is of such design that it
Pa-losVerdes will enhance the neighborhood and we have more than
complied with the Planning Commission requirements.
P think you will find that we have used more footage for landscaping which excelled
their -demand. It is an adult community project. Our project will be .siffilar to the Barranca
Vista Apartments right off of San Bernardino Rd. . I am willing to answer any
questions.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC TESTIMONY, PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED. COUNCIL
DISCUSSION.
Councilman Chappell: We talked about.a block wall requirement across the back-..
a.nd he was talking about workingwi th the homeowners in
the back. A.lot of those people do not have brick walls
back there. We are requiring a brick wall regardless in the background?
Mr. Menard: It would be required. The wooden fences can be replaced
with concrete if individuals so desired. It was the opinion
at the Planning Commission that if an agreement could not
be reached there would still haveto be a concrete wall built right alongside.
Councilman. Chappell: Matching the fences will be quite a problem though so it
will look like a'fairly decent project. You have several
• types of fences, types of brick.
Mr. Menard: This is always perhaps a problem when a situation like
this exists. The applicant indicated to the Planning
Commission that utilization of the same or similar brick and
raising it to a standard height would perhaps accomplish some of this.
Councilman Chappell: You will be watching this?
Mr. Menard. Yes - the inspectors in the field.
Councilman Gillum: Could you tell me approximately the range that these
apartments will rent for?
Mr. Gillilan: $165 to $215.
Councilman Nichols: What is the covered parking requirement in the R-3 ?
Mr. Menard: Covered parking 1-1/4 spaces per unit; total off street
parking is 1-3/4 spaces per unit and this does meet the
requirements. (Explained.)
Councilman Lloyd: Mr. Gillilan - have you been able to reconcile or have you
• talked to any of the people living immediately adjacent?
There was some concern expressed by the people living
there that your apartment will command a view of the back area of their homes. I
assume you have taken this into consideration so their privacy will be maintained or
protected?
Mr. Gillilan: Yes, actually we will be far enough away so they will have
less vision in their backyards with this apartment project
than a 2-story house would be. On Broadmoor Street
where we are at the closest point to Mrs. Lens - I am sorry she couldn't be here
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PRECISE PLAN NO. 545 - Continued
tonight, but she was very much in favor of the project. She came down and talked to
Mr. Menard and went over the whole project and after discussing it she recommended
the project very highly.
• Councilman Gillum. Do you have the financing? (Answer: Yes.)
If we were to approve when would you start construction?
Mr. Gillilan: As soon as I could.
Councilman Gillum- Within 6 months?
Mr. Gillilan: I certainly would hope so. It is my intention to go ahead
as soon as possible.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City Council.
approve Precise Plan 545 - Ray Gillilan, subject to the conditions applied in
Planning Commission Resolution No. 2060. Motion carried on roll call vote as
follows-
AYES- Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES- None
ABSENT- None
RECREATION & PARKS COMMISSION
• REVIEW ACTION OF TULY 2 3, 19 6 8
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that
City Council approve and file the minutes of the regular meeting of the Recreation
and Parks Commission of July 23, 1968.
REVIEW ACTION OF TULY 3 0, 19 6 8
Councilman Gillum: After reading the complete minutes regarding the Galster
Park discussion, I am sorry gentlemen, but I am in dis-
agreement with what I feel was thought by the Recreation
and Park Commission and I would like to receive these but not approve. From what I
see here it does not indicate the discussion or feelings by one or two of the
Commissioners on the discussion on Galster Park.
Mayor Gleckman: Can we hold the approval of this then until our next
regular meeting and put it on the agenda then?
Councilman Chappell- What would we accomplish doing that?
Mayor Gleckman: We would be able to discuss where we are going and how
. we are going to get there.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor - a point of order. In that I brought this whole
matter up before, I think we ought to explore a little further
on the matter of approval of minutes. Mr. Wakefield, it is
my understanding that when we receive and approve the minutes we are only approving
those actions that the Recreation & Park Commission takes which is in their purview..
For instance, that if in the course of their actions they ,recommend that the Council
do some particular thing that the approval of their minutes would not imply a Council
commitment to take such action that they might recommend. That is my understand-
ing of it.
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REC. & PARK ACTION OF 7-30-68 Continued
Mayor Gleckman. I agree with your understanding.
Councilman Nichols: If my understanding is correct then in fact we would
• approve the minutes without agreeing with the
recommendations they might make. On the other hand if
in fact we are making a commit pent to accept their recommendation by approving the
minutes, then we should not.
Mayor Gleckman: No they are only recommending and we are approving the
recommendation.
Mr. Wakefield-, You are in fact approving what they have recommended to
you but the implementation of the recommendation still
remains the prerogative of the Council. In other words
suppose they recommend a special tax levy for the purpose of financing the
improvements at Galster Park, you might approve that recommendation from the
Recreation. & Park Commission but unless the Council formally imposes the tax it
would never come to pass.
Councilman Nichols-, The reason I raise the point I differentiate between the
type of actions they take. The day by day action which
normally does not come to the Council except as an
approval of their action, and in that case we are confirming their action, but here I
think when we approve the minutes we are not necessarily saying we approve of
their recommendations, so I think it would be alright to approve them.
• Mr. Wakefield: Yes that would be my interpretation of this action.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that
Council accept and approve the July 30, 1968, special meeting minutes of the
Recreation & Park Commission, and set the matter of Galster Park for, further
discussion at the next regular meeting of the Council.
HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION
HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION —ANNUAL REPORT 1967-68
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that
Council accept and file.
GENERAL MATTERS
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
• WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
LETTER FROM RICK NORTON RE. UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, - .that
City Council receive and file.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor - the man has made a request - are we just
going to ignore it, is that the intent of the motion?
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS (Item 1) - Continued
Councilman Gillum: I am afraid it is.
Mayor Gleckman: My only comment would be that for the last two years
Mr.. Norton has made this proposal and if he is waiting
for a formal invitation, I don't think we should grant him
anything more than what we grant the rest of our citizens; and that he has been told
two years in a row that we would be glad to discuss the matter when it is on the
agenda and he has never shown up.
Councilman Gillum- And one thing concerns me that there could be strong
lines drawn on this subject, and I feel very strongly if
we were to give this man the opportunity which he is
welcome to have if he wants it but I think we would also be inclined to give the
opposite view and I am afraid we would get into something in which the City does
not belong in.
Councilman Nichols: I agree on that, but I think when any citizen communicates
with Council by letter he is entitled to a reply of some
sort. How it would be handled, I do not know. I think a
letter from the Mayor stating that he will be welcome to appear under Oral Communica-
tions at anytime or appear at the time the matter comes up on the agenda. And he
knows about when it will come up every year and he can confer with the staff to
determine when it is coming up.
Mayor Gleckman: You have a motion to receive and file and a second, and I
• would only add to that that the Mayor will respond with a
letter giving the indication of what was expressed here
tonight.
Councilman Gillum: I will accept that.
Motion carried, all were in favor.
PROTEST FROM UNITED POSTAGE SERVICE RE.
LICENSING OF POSTAGE VENDING MACHINES
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
this item be referred to staff.
LETTER FROM R. F . REDMOND RE. DRAINAGE
Motion by Councilman. Gillum, seconded by Councilman. Chappell, dhd'carri.ed', that.
this item be..referred.'to staff.
CLARIFICATION 'OF BROWN ACT BILL
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman. Chappell, and carried,
that this.le,tter from State Senator Clair,W. Burgen,er.-regarding;SB 592 be referred
to the City Attorney. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Councilman Nichols
Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - Continued
STANDARD OIL COMPANY REQUEST TO CONDUCT
"VISBROSEIS" SEISMIC SURVEY
'Mayor Gleckman: I would like to suggest that this item be referred to staff
and the City Attorney, and for the City Attorney to
investigate setting up an Ordinance to bring back to the
Council for review, similar to 'what they have in Long Beach.
So moved by Councilman. Gillum, seconded by Council-
man Chappell, and carried.
COUNTY ENGINEER. NOTICE RE. TRANSFER OF TERRITORY F ROM
BALDWIN PARK SCHOOL DISTRICT TO WEST COVINA SCHOOL DISTRICT
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that
this item be received and filed.
SAN GABRIEL VALLEY WATER COMPANY NOTICE OF APPLICATION
TO INCREASE RATES
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
this item be referred to staff.
ORDER INSTITUTING INVESTIGATION FOR "RAILROAD GRADE SEPARATION
• PRIORITIES"
Motion by Councilman_ Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that this
item be received and filed.
APPEAL.FROM TAR DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IN ZONE CHANGE NO. 395
FROM PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION OF AUGUST 7 1968
Mr. Wakefield: This was a matter in which the City Planning Commission
tabled the request for the change of zone indefinitely.
The applicant asked that the City Planning Commission
either grant or deny the request so he would know where he stood with reference to the
matter. At that time the question came up regarding the applicants right to appeal in the
event the Planning Commission tabled the matter and it turned out ultimately the
Planning Commission advised that they could not by tabling the matter, deprive the
applicant of his right to appeal, that the tabling was in effect a denial for the change
in zone, and he had a right to appeal simply because our Ordinance states this right,
that the Planning Commission must decide the matter within 30 days. At this particular
instance the Planning Commission decided the matter be tabled and instructed the staff
to make a study in the area in question. In effect his right to appeal was protected.
Mayor Gleckman: So all we can do is receive and file. If he would like to
appeal the decision that is up to him. He sent us a
letter and requested that the hearing be set for the first
September meeting of Council, which I don't believe is possible. . If he would have
appealed this at the time it took place when would his date be - the time it would have
come before Council? I believe he is asking for something that we don't normally
grant time -wise.
City Clerk: No this would be alright.
Councilman Nichols: I don't ever remember, perhaps there has been an
instance, where the lapplicant tells the Council when to
set a hearing.
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - Continued (Item 9)
Mayor Gleckman:
Thank you. That is what I was waiting for.
Councilman Nichols: I have a further question - Mr. Mayor-, Other than
• unreasonable delay there is no encumbe.ncy.. on this
Council to conform to a date set by an applicant?
Mr. Wakefield: No sir. Council has control of its own agenda.
Mayor Gleckman: All I am trying to get at is why is he asking for
September when if he appealed before Council it
could have been set for?
City Clerk: It could come up on the 26th of August.
'Mayor Gleckman: So then he is asking for the September date and this
would be handled through the City Clerk's office and
not the Council. So will you advise him accordingly,
Mrs. Preston.
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that
this item be received and filed.
PETITION OF PROPERTY OWNERS REQUESTING CLOSING
AND CUL-DE-SACING OF 1800 BLOCK ON EAST ECKERMAN AVENUE
Motion by Councilman. Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that City Council
refer this item to staff. Motion carried.
CITY ATTORNEY
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING
CHAPTER 1 OF ARTICLE V OF THE WEST
COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE, AND THEREBY
ADOPTING BY REFERENCE THAT CERTAIN
ORDINANCE OF THE COUNTY OF
LOS ANGELES, NUMBERED 7583, AS
AMENDED TO JULY 1, 1968, AND KNOWN
AS THE "HEALTH CODE.OF THE COUNTY
OF LOS ANGELES. "
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body
of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that
Council introduce said Ordinance.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, ADDING
SECTION 4203 TO THE WEST COVINA
MUNICIPAL. CODE RELATING TO THE DAMAGE
OR DESTRUCTION OF CITY PARK PROPERTY
AND OFFERING REWARDS FOR CERTAIN IN-
FORMATION IN CONNECTION THEREWITH. "
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CITY ATTORNEY - Continued
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body
of said Ordinance.
• Motion by Councilman Lloyd, seconded by Councilman. Gillum, and carried, that City
Council introduce said Ordinance.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO
AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES. (Zone
Change No. 394 - Arturo Pizzo)"
Mayor. Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body
of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that Council
introduce said Ordinance.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The. City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING
SUBPARAGRAPH (a) OF SECTION 4112 OF
is
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE
RELATING TO THE SIZE OF DANCE FLOORS
IN CABARETS."
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body
of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that City
Council introduce said Ordinance.
(ITEM 18 DELETED.)
ORDINANCE NO. 1046 The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO
AS TO REZONE PREMISES (Zone Change 392 -
Ray Gillilan.)
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body
of said Ordinance.
Motion by Councilman. Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City Council adopt
said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Councilman Nichols
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CITY ATTORNEY Continued
RESOLUTION NOo 3854 The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, AMENDING
CONTRACT WITH PUBLIC EMPLOYEES'
RETIREMENT SYSTEM TO REMOVE
EXCLUSION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. "
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body
of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman. Lloyd, seconded by Councilman. Gillum, that City Council
adopt said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen. Chappell, Nichols,. Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO. 3855 The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
CONSENTING TO PROCEED WITH
ANNEXATION NO.. 209. "
Motion by Councilman. Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, "that City Council
adopt said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
CITY MANAGER
Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
STREET DEPARTMENT REORGANIZATION
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that this report be reviewed
and accepted by. Council.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor - I am not all that sure that I want to vote
for it, and I am not all that sure I want to vote against
it. There may well be some aspects that I would like to
discuss in greater detail.
Mr.. Aiassa: In the Police and Fire Departments you adopt Station
Rules and Regulations, this is not the same. It is a
guide for Council and staff for the future arrangement
and development of the Street Department.
Mayor Gleckman: Now that we have that in the record - we can go ahead.
Motion carried, all were in favor.
TRAFFIC COMMITTEE MINUTES OF TULY 31, 1968
Mayor Gleckman: I would like to compliment the Traffic Committee or whoever
suggested to them - on the midblock crosswalk for the
Swimming Pool. I think it is pretty good foresight.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Mayor Gleckman, and carried, that
City Council receive and approve the minutes of the Traffic Committee dated
July 31, 1968.
SWIMMING POOL CONTRACT CHANGE ORDER
Motion by Councilman. Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that City Council
authorize the architect to issue change order implementing changes set forth
in report dated August 9, 1968. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
SCAG 1968-69 DUES OF $364.00
Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City Council
approve payment of SCAG 1968-69 dues of $364.00.
Mayor Gleckman: I would, for the benefit of the two new Councilmen,
like to hear from the two older Councilmen as to their
objection of SCAG, if they do object.
• Councilman Gillum: I have been opposed to SCAG before I was elected., and
I stated that before I was elected. I think it is an
unnecessary arm of the Government coming in here and
eventually will dictate to this City on certain things that the City has power on at the
present time. That is my personal opinion and that is why I am opposed to it and will
continue to be opposed until someone can prove different.
Councilman Chappell: I would like to ask a question.
Councilman Gillum: I am not here to answer questions, we don't have enough
time tonight.. If you would like to bring up at another
meeting some night to :discuss the pros and cons of SCAG
I would be happy too.
Mayor Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa - will you in one of our future study meetings
put.this on the agenda? (Agreed) I would like to discuss
this with Councilman Gillum. I don't think he is that
informed about SCAG, because the past President of SCAG and many members of SCAG
including Congressman Wiggins and also Huston Flournoy have been very high in their
praise of SCAG as a preventive measure of the Federal Government coming in on
municipalities and this was basically the reasoning because most legislation that is
being introduced is introduced for the cities in the east and really don't have an effect
• on us - we don't need that - and SCAG is looking for the interests of local government,
and that basically is what it was set up for. We will be glad to have a Study Session
on this in order to better familiarize the entire Council, including myself.
Councilman Lloyd: I move the question.
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: Councilmen- Nichols,
ABSENT: None
Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
Gillum
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CITY MANAGER - SCAG - Continued
Councilman, Nichols: The only comment I would make, it strikes me as being
somewhat strange, when members of the Council took
several valuable moments to ultimately decide to have a
• study session, to become better informed about this organization in order that we might
vote more wisely about it, and then the Council proceeds to vote in advance of having
had the study session. It just seems a little strange that we have now all taken the
position to commit ourselves to a year's additional membership to be followed by a
study session.
Mayor Gleckman: I think it would be more informative and for the record
that if you do feel that strongly opposed to SCAG it was
your duty and responsibility as a member of this Council
to do and say whatever you could to better inform your colleagues in order for them to
also vote in the manner in which you did, and not let them go just the way it is without
your commenting as' to why you voted that way and not give us the benefit of your
knowledge of SCAG.
Councilman. Gillum: Mr. Mayor - do you really believe we could get into
this tonight, where our new fellow Councilmen would
have the time to digest and study both sides of SCAG
or are we playing a game now - Mr. Gleckman?
Mayor Gleckman: Not me, I am not playing any games.
• Councilman. Nichols: I didn't raise the point in any sense of criticism.
Councilman. Chappell: You just asked why we voted to pay this. We can
withdraw that motion and authorize to pay afterwards.
This is only the first notice.
Mayor Gleckman: What is your pleasure here, gentlemen.
Councilman Lloyd: I suggest we go on with the agenda. We had the vote.
Councilman Gillum. I agree with Mr.. Lloyd.
Councilman Nichols: I don't feel that strongly about it. I believe it would have
been better to have waited and had our meeting and
everybody become experts and then take our positions..
ATTORNEY STATEMENT FOR SERVICES RENDERED IN LASC NO. 910642
FOR $1,636.16
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City Council
approve Attorney fees for $1, 636. 16. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
• AYES: Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE - OCTOBER 13 to 16 1968
Item deleted from agenda.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
INSTITUTE ON LABOR RELATIONS SEPTEMBER 5 and 6 1968
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Nichols, that City Council
authorize City Attorney and City Manager or staff to attend the Institute on Labor
Relations on September 5 and 6, 1968; End further authorize expenses not to exceed
$2,00 0 00. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen, Chappell,
NOES- None
ABSENT: None
PAINT -UP, CLEAN-UP PROGRAM
Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
Mayor Gleckman: In accordance with the report I would like to appoint
as a Mayor's Committee - Don Casler and liaison to
be Councilman Chappell, to work with staff in setting
up dates and procedures
So moved by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Council -
man Lloyd, and carried
AMEND MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION DEALING WITH DANCE FLOORS
• Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that
Council receive and file this report.
POLICE MUTUAL AID WITH BALDWIN PARK
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that
Council authorize City Manager to work with other cities todeVelop the program.
ESTABLISH DATE FOR SWIMMING POOL DEDICATION
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that Council
establish the date for the Swimming Pool Dedication of September 14, 1968.
Councilman Gillum- Will the School Board have their plaque ready by that
time ?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes.
Motion carried, all were in favor.
• GREYHOUND RATE INCREASE APPLICATION
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Mayor Gleckman, and carried, that this
information item be received and filed,
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION DECISION 74481 -..SUBURBAN WATER,
WEST COVINA-WALNUT WATER COMPANIES
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
Council receive and file this informational item
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Page Thirty-four
CITY MANAGER - Continued
SAN GABRIEL VALLEY MUNICIPAL DATA SYSTEM PROGRESS REPORT
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
Council receive and file this information 0 item----
CITY MANAGER'S VACATION
Motion by Councilman. Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that
Council allow the City Manager to take his vacation from August 16 to September 3,
1968, inclusive.
CITY CLERK
RESOLUTION OF COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DECLARING
AZUSA AVENUE IN CITY' NO LONGER A PART OF THE COUNTY SYSTEM OF HIGHWAYS
Motion by Councilman. Nichols, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that Council
receive and file this informational item.
CITY OF MONTEBELLO ( CORPORATE YARD DEDICATION CEREMONIES
• Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that Council
receive and file.
ABC APPLICATION OF SUNDIE AND CARMEN LOTITO, LOCATION.
DBA SUSIE'S HOFBRAU, FOR ON -SALE BEER LICENSE 642 S. Sunset Avenue
Councilman Gillum. Lotito - that name sounds familiar. That is the Wagon
Wheel and I see the Police Department report.
Councilman Nichols: This was probably the significant problem or matter of
this type to come before the Council during the time
I have been on Council. There is a long and detailed
and involved history on this particular piece of property and the current applicants
had a connection with the series of incidences that went on before. It seems to me
it might be a good idea and helpful if the Councilmen that have not served on the
Council might have the benefit of having access to some of that material before being
asked to pass on this.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Nichols, that this item be
held over to the next regular meeting of Council.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION.
SCouncilman Gillum. I withdraw my motion.
Councilman Nichols. I withdraw my second.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, and carried, that
Council instruct the Chief of Police to protest this application.
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MAYOR'S REPORTS
Mayor Gleckman: First of all I need a volunteer to represent the City of
West Covina at Roger Young Auditorium in the Blue Room
on Friday, August 2 3 from 10 p.m. to 1 p . m . They are
going to discuss. the Watson 1% property tax. If we don't have a Councilman that can
attend, Mr. Aiassa, will you please send staff. (Agreed.)
Mayor Gleckman. I also have a letter inviting the Council to the West
Covina Sister City Foundation Mardi Gras at Universal
City Studio on. August 25th - that will be West Covina
Day. Please make note on your calendar if you are going to attend, and try and make
it on August 25th. Mr. Aiassa - please poll Council and send a letter to
Mrs. Janicek advising her how many.
PROCLAMATION
Mayor Gleckman: I have a letter from the National Society of the Sons of
the American Revolution requesting the issuance of a
proclamation designating the period of December 17 to
December 23rd, 1968, as Constitution Week. I would so proclaim unless there is
objection by Council?
No objection. So proclaimed.
Mayor Gleckman: I have an invitation, which I think you all have, for
August 17th and that is the San Gabriel Valley Peace
Officers Association. Those of you who can and will
attend, Please notify Chief Sill or staff.
Mayor Gleckman. I also have from the Independent Cities of Los Angeles
of which we are a member, an invitation to attend a
seminar on.Sept.ember 20-21-22 in Santa Barbara,
subjects of discussion to be: City -County Relations; Labor Relations; and Racial
Relations. I will need some money, maximum of $100. (Read Letter in full.)
If there is anyone that would care to go in my place, I will be glad to step down but
I think we should have representation
Councilman, Nichols: If you desire to attend and represent Council I think
it is appropriate.
Mayor. Gleckman: If there is any other member of Council that would care
to go please let me know. I will leave it open.
Let me know within a week.
Motion by Councilman Gillum that Council authorize the expenditure of not more than
• $125.00 for the person attending the Independent Cities of Los Angeles seminar on
September 20-21-22, 1968, at Santa Barbara. Seconded by Councilman Lloyd
Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES. Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES. None
ABSENT: None
(Mayor Gleckman stated that this is only authorized if a member of Council goes.
Staff not to be sent.)
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MAYOR'S REPORTS - Continued
Mayor Gleckman: I have another matter involving an expenditure of money.
The City of West Covina is being well represented in
the "world series" Baseball Tournament. This is the
first time we have had representation in the World Series and the past councils have
• set as a precedent for the two Pony Leagues that previously went to the World Series
in their League, the offer of giving them jackets for each member of the team, the
manager.--,- the coach, and the business manager and President of the League. I would
-like-to see the City Council, to further the publicity of West Covina, entertain ;the
-thought of authotizing the maximum of $550. to be spent for jackets, lettermen type
jackets, spelling out the West Covina entrants in the World Series for the team
representing the City.
Councilman Chappell: How much is that per jacket?
Mayor. Gleckman: A little. less. than. $30.00 each.
Councilman Nichols: Mr. Mayor - I can't support it because I think it is a
bad precedent.. It is a noble cause and I would be
willing to go out with you on the streets and try and
raise the money...I.think it is very fine but for the City to establish a precedent of
spending public monies to buy athletic jackets or whatever for groups of our young
people in the community using the taxpayers money for that purpose, I just can't
go that. I don't think,it is right.
Councilman Lloyd: I think it is important for us on the Council to try to
• put something of this nature into perspective. If all
we were accomplishing is the putting of jackets on a
group of youngsters, no matter how fine they may be, then of course I would have to
agree this indeed would be a waste of taxpayers money. We have authorized in
excess of $24, 000 to the Chamber of Commerce to spread the good name of the
City of West Covina, and I think the authorization was more than justified and I
hope we get good action out of it. I see this in the same light. I feel these
youngsters have already carried the name of West Covina forward to where it has been
heard in other parts of the land and I think this type of activity is good for the soul
as it were for the City. I would be just as quick to support it if it were a Pop Warner-Pao_bal1
wh°lf--h I am veW supportive ra&. I would be supporting if it were one of our School fEk"'
teams and I think in this case recognition of these youngsters is not so much as
individuals or what they have accomplished individually but is in reality a recognition
of the fact that they have given service to the City by presenting the name of West
Covina and I strongly urge an eye vote.
Mayor. Gleckman: I would add that it seems that we spend a lot of money
in this City supporting various groups such as Sister City
Foundation, and I think that we are not: supporting a
baseball team per se. We are supporting an activity of some boys who live and go to
school in this community, who are spreading the good will all over the country as well
as Canada and Hawaiiand in fact are doing more to promote the City of West Covina
than many of the individuals that we spend money for. And I was the one that made the
request and I would make it again for the $200. spent to send the kids to Oregon
representing the City of West Covina in their musicale. I think these are the areas
in which we could expend the money to better help promote this community and what we
offer to kids in this land in our community. So I .disagree., although I do agree with
Councilman Nichols, if the perspective was to buy jackets for the kids for playing
baseball. But that is not the idea, it is for promoting the City of West Covina.
Councilman Gillum: For the past 2 years I have been participating on the
Mobil Economy Run cross country and I have had Council
approve in the neighborhood of $300 for promotional on
this Economy run. I think this request falls into the same category as I felt the
request to Council on the Mobil Economy Run -it 6s to promote the City of West Covina
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MAYOR'S REPORTS - Continued
and spread the name of the City across the country, and I also would urge a "yes"
vote.
• Councilman Nichols: Gentlemen - you have the votes to start with, there was
no point in saying anything. It was rather apparent that
you felt this way and we are not going to debate the
issue any longer. I don't feel. all that strongly about it. But the day will come when I
,am going to come before you and ask for some dollars and there are going to be
additional groups starting to come, I have seen it in the past year, and we as a
Council will reach the point of having to face this area of City promotional, as to
who we are and who we are not going to give to,.. .
Mayor Gleckman: I am ready to face that responsibility at anytime and I
think it is time that we do spend the money to promote
the goodness of West Covina instead of waiting for
some bad press
Motion by Councilman Lloyd that Council approve $540.00 be appropriated from city
funds for the purchase of appropriately sized and monogramed jackets for the
West Covina Mustang Colt Baseball Team representing the City of West Covina in
the Wor.ld.Series of Baseball., • Secorfded� by. Councilman Gillum, Motion carried on
roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: Councilman Nichols
ABSENT: None
RESOLUTION NO, 3856
ADOPTED
Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA,
COMMENDING AL.TOTTER FOR HIS
SERVICES TO THE CITY. "
Mayor Gleckman: Hearing no objections, waive further reading of the body
of said Resolution.
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, that City Council
adopt said Resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows:
AYES: Councilmen Chappell,
NOES: None
ABSENT: NOne
COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS
Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
Councilman Nichols: I notice we have received a report on the assessed
valuation for the City - the July 1968 report. I would
like to know how this compares with our budget
estimates of the assessed valuation. Are we low on the budget?
Mr,. Aiassa: I am making a full report for your August 26, 1968
meeting.
Councilman Gillum: This past week I had 4 or 5 calls from people who
participated in our Recreation & Park programs - Fee and
Charge. Has this Council in the past set: the policy that
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the -Recreation & Park people cannot accept personal checks. There seems to be
some concern in this regard.
Mt.. Aiassa In fairness to the Recreation & Park - we have had so
many of these checks returned... .
• Councilman Gillum; 12 checks have been returned because of insufficient
funds. With Council°s permission I would like to have
a report back from Recreation & Park why we cannot
accept checks from our citizens for programs they participate in within the City.
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Councilman Lloyd: I think that perhaps if there is unanimous opinion on
the part of the Council in support of Councilman's
remarks that we would not need a report on it, but let
the City staff work it out.
Mayor Gleckman:
Councilman Gillum:
Mayor Gleckman:
DEMANDS
Councilman. Gillum you have heard his remarks - do you
still request the report?
Yes - I would like a report back from the Recreation &
Park Department - I have reasons for asking for it.
A Councilman has the prerogative of asking for a report.
Mr. Aia s sa , will you handle that please,
Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Chappell, that City Council
approve demands totalling $445,486.30 as listed on demand sheets C589 and C593 and
payroll reimbursement sheets. Motion carried on roll call as follows:
AYES. Councilmen Chappell, Nichols, Gillum, Lloyd, Mayor Gleckman
NOES: None
ABSENT-. None
Motion by Councilman Chappell, seconded by Councilman Lloyd, and carried, that
there being no further business, meeting adjourn at 11 p.m.
ATTEST -
City Clerk
APPROVED -
MAYOR
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