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09-11-1967 - Regular Meeting - Minutes• 0 • MINUTES. OF. Ta REGULAR.NEET.ING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST 0OVINA, CALIFORNIA SEPTEMBER 119 1967, The_. regA lar_ me.e_t-ing of the City Council was called to order by ..Mnynr Kri Paer_._at 7- 35 the. _West C-oxina .C-ity. . Hall., 0ounc..ilman Gillum ..le-d the -Pledge _of . Alle.giance-o- The. _invo.c-ati_o.n -was given by -the Reverend Charles R. Simmons, Methodist Church .of West C gvinao ROLI,. CALL . Presegte-Mayor.-Krieger, Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman Snyder, Also Present-, George Aiassa, City Manager Lela Preston,, City.Clerk Harry Williams., City. Attorney George Zimmerman, Ass°t, City Er4gineer Owen Menard, Planning Director Rey Windsor, Administrative Assistant APPR4A- 03 MIXUT3S.... Augiiat�..2-8 , 19 6-7 Councilman Gleckmana Councilman Nichols-, Approved as.. corrected-, paragraph that starts "I have should be "on the protests,'P A correction on Page 25., fifth line, s-e.cond.. �Zaragraph o '._res�uested of" _should be °?requested by", On the same. page, I. am not aur.e. tha�t�ed this has. not been .accurately tr but I, would like to correct it, the studied the figures on the annexation" Mayor Krieger-, .1 -woulA. -cf-f-er -a-eerreetlen -en. 3Pee 16, the statement attributable to me, m.id.dla...of- the. -page, `Hare _yau.,bad.. the c.hano_a to verify thas-e _-written tests yet?" The word is ? protests" and no _38..,-_mo-tinn- .by Councilman .Gle_ckman ..and seconded by _Co-un i roman . C:ti 1 izm _.the _moid "..council'? . sho-uld _be__.adde.d -,to .the .mat_1=_rQ�Jm ".that. t.he--c_o-unc.1 ._-appropriate the s_um _of _$13$200a , o.?' On..1'.age 4.5., _a statement by Mr,. Williams m "I .have an item o.f ` pending . leg-islation" .should be of ".pending -litigation. ". On the same page., the, heading "Executive Session Re, Pending Legislation" should again read "Pending Litigation,". And.just below that, my statement should read "pending litigation"instead of",legislation," Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded.by Councilman Nichols.9 and carried, that the minutes of August 28, 1967, be approved as corr@,ctedo S LRTER.-_C=Y. Mayor Krieger: The chair would recognize at this time the Chairman of the Sister City Founda7 tion ® Mrs -.Richard Stith, who is here t his..e_ve n�...f o� tha .gurgas a ..._oi _making. _a._pre s entatiano- Richard Stith-, Thank you-, First -of all I would like to introduce a guest-from.Mexico from our Sister City, Senor Aug-ustine,, Sanchez Co C. 9-11-67 Page Two SISTER. C-1TY -PRES AT,I0_%_rm- ,Gant=lnu€d. he will be here for several monthsg ptudying at the California School of business. M�yor'Krieger: It is our pleasure to have you with us sir, Is there any statement you would like to.make? Senor. ,Sanchez: Thank you. I would like too, but my EEngliah ..is no-t very, goo -do May r __Kr_ie g er. - . -It - i s _be,t.ter 11 is a greet pleasure to have you here, Richard Stith: On -.behalf of the Sister City„ o.f W-est C-ovi.na-, _ate ..w.o.uld._like _to .pre -sent. to _the r e c aiue& back.. in..1,9.66 .. This .is .a., .c,ex ificata .of, .partia1.p t.i,on-1n ,the_. International Sister C.i_ty c_ante.st.. We -.also have t-wo -awards that were given to us by ForanclAti nr _ ....O.ne._:&_c..ertificate.._ of...Achiexement,,....and and....as-rr�rer.e.. �1�..e b �� ,_�d.__o.�. And ._�...Ci#,y...of._WA Co.�tina.. he�.ng a pant rnPCi t -�.P.�€e -mant e d -to ....pr .ge.n.t . s.e -to .-you _to ...-do Stith -hbey as you wish. They are quite old- this.one dates back to 1688 and this one dates back to 162.%�- Mayor Krieger: Thapk.,.ynua Mr.,. Stith. I am sure .the c� c i 3. acme-pt s -the-s-e - preze n-tatd o ns , oh . behalf of the citizens of the City of .West Covina; we. will place them in our trophy cabinet with great pride and when the.city_government, moves into the new City Hall they will receive a more permanent and substantial home. Thank you for bringing these to us. PRESENTATION OF RESOLUTIONS OF COMMENDATION Mayor Krieger: We.wculd ask at this time for two. gentlemen to step forward m Mr. Phil Wax and Mr, Louis Brutoaaa. I have in my hand this evening..Resolution No. 3659 and No. 366o, these are resolutions that.have been unanimously adopted by this city council.. I would like to read the first resolution inorder, The wording of -,' pecond resolution in order is verbatim except of course for the fact the recepient is Mr. Brutocaa on No. 3660. Mr. Wax is on No. 3659. (Read entire resolution.) I know they are tendered to you with the.gratitude and appreciation of this council, I would ask Councilman Gillum, who served as the council liaison to this Plaza Blue Ribbon Committee, if he would physically present these resolutions to you, (Councilman Gillum presented the resolutions.) Councilman Gillum-, I am sure you gentlemen are aware that we have had problems and probably will with our business community because of our growth, but I can tell you that these two gentlemen ® if I asked for a breakfast,,meeting at. 7 a.m. or a meeting in the middle'of the afternoon .or in the evening, they responded to each call and worked very hard on the program we had planned, and I want to thank them for their efforts and I am sure through their efforts `we will see progress in the business community, Mayor Krieger: Ig also want to thank . you, for your work as council lie.ison on the Plaza Blue-Ribbon,Committeeg Councilman Gillum, 2 LJ Co 00 9=11-67 —PLANNING COMMISSION._ REVIEW PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION OF 9-6-67 RECREATION & PARKS COMMISSION No report. PERSONNEL BOARD ..No report. ,HUkik,RELATIO`NS COMMISSION 1., 7 No report. Page Three - Sopresented by Mr., Kenard, Planning Director. Mayor Krieger: I.understand that the new Chairman of the Human Relations Commission is Mrs. Mansell. Please extend our best wishes to Mrs. Mansell as the new chairwoman. CITY ATTORNEY ORDINANCE NO. 1006 The City Attorney presented:, "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF ADOPTED THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE BY THE ADDITION THERETO OF CERTAIN PROVISIONS RELATING TO PARADES, Motion by Councilman Glockman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of said.Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that. the council adopt said Ordinance. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES: None ABSENT: None ORDINANCE NO. 1007 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented-. "AN ORDINANCE- OF THE CITY COUNCIL._ OF. THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, REPEALING' ORDINANCE NO. 1004 AND DISAPPROVING:' SOUTHERLY ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO. 205." Motion by Councilman Gleckman,, seconded carried, to waive further reading of the by Councilman Gillum, and body of said Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the council adopt said Ordinance. "Notion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES: None ABSENT: None - 3 - 0 Co U. 9-11-67 CITY ATTORNEY - Continued ORDINANCE NO. 1008 ADOPTED Page Four The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE" OF THE- CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF-WES7COVINA9 AMENDING CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF MUNICIPAL CODE DECREASING SPEED LIMIT ON VALLEY VIEW STREET.". Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of said.Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded. by:,,Counci1ma;nSnyder, that the council adopt said,Ordinance. Motion carried 4dn-,:1roll call. as follows:. AYES:. Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor'Krieger NOES: None ABSENT: None ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The -City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF -THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE.CITY OF WEST''COVINA, AMENDING SECTION 9C OF PERSONNEL RULES RELATING TO VETERAN PREFERENCE," Motion by Councilman Gleckman,-.._seaonded..by Councilman Gillum, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of said Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the council introduce said Ordinance, CITY ATTORNEY ATTENDANCE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES CONVENTION Mr. Williams, City Attorney: Mr. Mayor m I have an item-, if you don't mind taking it up at this time. I think you have acted on attendance at the League'of California Cities meeting, but I thank mine is a little different because Azusa pays half of the expense. Azusa has already offered to Pay for one-half of my expenses for this meeting and I. am wondering if the- couno1l would be willin& to pay the other., half.?. Mayor Krieger: Any objection by the council to adding the item to the agenda? (No objections,) Mr..Williams, what will be the expense? Can you give us a "not to exceed figure"? Mr. Williams: #125,00. I will turn in an itemized. account. Motion by Councilman Nichols,_ seconded by Councilman Gleckman, that the City Council authorize the expenditure of city funds to reimburse they City Attorney for expenses that,he may incur in connection with the League of California Citiee .,aorivention in San Francisco,. --said amount not to exceed 0125.00 - or one-half of the expenses incurred by the City - Attorney, whichever would be the lesser. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman,'Snyder, Mayor Krieger NO :" None ABSENT: None Mr. Williams, City Attorney: One other item. I propose to be on vacation :m t%.:22nd of September until the. 2nd of October and would ask 4 is c o C u 9-li=6 a CITY ATTORNEY o Continued leave to be absent. Mr. Terzian will take over, Mayor Kriegero CITY. MANAGER SWIMMING POOL REPORT Mayor Krieger: Any objections council? There Mr, Williams. Page Five on the part of the are no objections Mr. Aiassa, we have September 8, 1967, you wish to add? the report of. is there anything Mr, Aiassa, City Manager: I would like the council to authorize the City Manager to pursue the. vario.i;s phases outlined in the report. We have a tentative list of designing architects for municipal pools, Councilman Gleckman: I feel that Item 2 in this report is of extreme importance and I was curious - I gather the City Attorney would be involved in this, Mayor Krieger: Mr. Williams, are you familiar with what we are talking about? (Answer: No, I have not seen the report.) Councilman Gleckman: Mr. Williams, if you will look at Item 2 ® we are talking about an agreement to be drawn up regarding the City of West Covina and the School District. I am wondering how long it will be before this is done? Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: Within the next 2 or 3 weeks. Councilman Snyder: Before we discuss that, I would like to have a reconsideration of the selection, of the high school site for the first swimming pool. My own considerations.are, if we picked one high school it sort of implies that we are promising to go ahead and build pools at all the high schools and that really is one of my main concerns about building the first pool at Edgewood High. If we were to build it on city park land, this would remove some valuable parkland of which we don't have too much, but it would put the schools in the position of coming to us for usage, and as a matter of experience the School District has, really never__.given us. much aid or comfort in our.Swimmir}g Pool program, I am not doing --,this to be vengeful, but doing it to say that we are btyllding a pool with city funds for purposes of recreation and I am wondering again if the best site would not be a park site instead of a high school site. Mayor Krieger: Let me make this suggestion. I think • we are going to get into a fairly long discussion on this and the hour of 8 p,i,, has now arrived. Let's do the Bids and Hearing., matters and then take up the Swimming Pool." Councilman Nichols: I would go so far as to say that Dr. Snyder has raised an interesting thesis. I would-be in favor of schedul- ing this fora work study session with the council and staff at some early date rather than try and thrash it out at this time. Mayor Krieger: Let's take it up again later and see what the sentiments are at this stage, m5® Co Co 9-11-67 Page Six, SCHEDULED MATTERS BIDS PROJECT SP-68003 LOCATION: Center Street and Vincent STREET IMPROVEMENTS Avenue. • Bids were received in the office of the City Clerk at 10:00 A.M. on Wednesday, September 6, 1967, as follows: • SULLY -MILLER CONTRACTOR $99534.13 CROW'ELL & LARSON 099565.79 LOUIS S. LOPEZ Olo9W.46 D & G CONCRETE Oliv867.88 Mayor Kriegero Madam City Clerk you received four bids on this matter? Lela Preston, City Clerk: Yes, Mr, Mayor. Mayor Krieger: You Aid check for errvr.s.and they were determined to be valid bid proposals? Lela Preston, City Clerk: They- were- referred to the Engineering Department and the recommendation was that the bid of Sully -Miller Contracting Co. of Long Beach be accepted. Mayor Krieger: Lela Preston, City Clerk: Mayor Krieger: We.r_e ..the bids checked and all fond- to be free of errors and determined'�`to be valid bid proposals_? All were checked and all were valid bid proposals. This is a low unit price bid. A motion is in order. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by CounciJman Gillum, that the low unit price bid of Sully -Miller Contracting Comoany of Long Beach for City Project SP-68003 be accepted in the _amount of $9,534. 13; and that the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execute an agreement with the said Sully -Miller Co. for the work, Councilman Gleckman: Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: Mayor Krieger: Mr. Zimmerman: Ass°t, City Engineer for that very purpose and I hove done as of that date, Do we have a time lii4it here once we award the contract? Yes, I.got a confirmation from Mrs Zimmerman, and it is now officially on-". the record to be completed as of November 1, 1967. They -would have to come back for any extensidja beyond November lst? That is right, Mr. Mayor. This.may 7,ot be the exact date, we have -actually placed this on a very xi&; A-.'amhedul:e every confidence that the work will be Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckmang,Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES: None ABSENT:, None C. C. 9-11-67 Page Seven SCHEDULED'MATTERS m BIDS ® Continued 1968-WEED AB*jEMEXT PROGRAM LOCATION-0 Throughout the City. Bids were received in the office of the City Clerk at 10-,.00 A.M. on Wednesday, September 6, 1967. Lela Preston, City Clerk,* This came in two Proposals "A" and "B". A total of four bids were received on Proposal "A" and "B". Proposal "A" for weed abatement discing on lots 6,000 sq.. feet and above, and Proposal "B" for house and lot cleaning. These bidt.proposals were subsequently. reviewed by the Engineering Department and found to be valid and correct except for minor arithmetical errors in the bid of Stover and Smith. The low bid for Proposal "A" in the amount of 05,934.39 was submitted by Stover and Smith, P. 0. Box 156, Highland. The unit prices on this bid totaled approximately.,#400.00 less than the unit price total last year. Proposal "A" bids.- _St 6-V3R--,&,-.. -SMITH-- 059934-39 HAROLD'WATTS $69830-00 CAL WATTS WEED ABATEMENT CONT. $8,316.00 COMMERCIAL LOT CLEANING 489621.00 The low bid for Proposal "B" in the amount of #1,100.00 was submitted by Filippo De Vitis, 468 West Camino Real, Arcadia. The low unit prices in this bid will provide substantial savings to property owners affected, in comparison again to last years bid amounts,. Proposal "B" bids: FILIPPO DE VITIS 619100.00 HAROLD WATTS 119450.00 CAL WATTS WEED ABATEMENT CONT. 29200.00 STOVER & SMITH 129750.00 RECOMMENDATION: That the bids of Stover.and Smith of Highland and Filippo De Vitis of Arcadia, be accepted for the 1968 Weed Abatement, and the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execute agreements for the work. Motion by Councilman G-leckman, seconded by Councilman -Snyder, that the council accept the low unit price lump sum bid on Proposal "A" as submitted by Stover & Smith of Lon $59934.39- and the Mayor _Z Beach be accepted in the amount of and City Clerk be authorized to execute an agreement for the 1968 Weed Abatement work. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES: None ABSENT: None Motion by Councilman Gleckman-, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that. the Council accept the low unit bid for Proposal "B" as submitted by Filippo De Vitis of Arcadia, in the amount of $1,100.009 and the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execute an agreement forthe work under t1je,1968 Weed Abatement.program.. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman,--Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES: None ABSENT: None Councilman Nichols: I would -.Like to comment how very pleased I am to see the staff develop the e Weed Abatement Program into an "All and "B" Program which provides for the small property owner a very great savings. 7 C. Co 9-11-67 Page Eight 968 WEED;LBATEMENT PROGRAM ® Continued I thtnk-the staff is to be commended for this type of program which is totally in the interest of the citizens of West Covi a. • HEARINGS ` PROJECT SPm67018. PROTEST HEARING ON ASSESSMENT 1911 ACT (SHORT FORM) Mayor Kriegero Lela Preston, City Clerko LGQATION: 1838 and 1842 Workman Avenue, Madam City Clerk do you have -an affidavit of posting on this matter? I have. Motion by Councilman Gleckman,.seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that council receive and file the affidavit of posting, Mayor Krieger: The Engineer's Report - Mr, Aiassa. (Mr. Aiassa, City Manager, read the ppertinent sections of the.Engineer°s report pertaining to Project 'SPm67018) Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried., that the council receive and file the Engineer's Report, Mayor Krieger,* Madam City Clerk, have you received any written protests or objections against constructed on the proceedings? the assessment on improvements as Lela Preston,, City Clerks, I have none.. Mayor Krieger-, Is there anyone present this evening fho de it s �ak e a�,Y ro test on roJeo, SHm6��1ST Let-tEie reo.ord reflect there is apparently no ._one .pr.esent ...desiring to protest. A motion would be in order to..clo.se the hearing. So moved by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried. All were in favor. Councilman Gillums, Mr. Aiassa, the information we have is that the property owner will have a period of 5 days from' -the date on which the attached resolution is adopted m how do we inform him? Mr. Aiassa,. City Manager. He has already been informed and I have been informed by my staff that the owner intends to pay it off in cash. Councilman Gillums Hbw did you inform him? Mr. Zimmerman n Ass °t. City Engineex°o One of our people went out in person and talked.. to.. him and he advised that he actually has 30 days before the matter draws interest and he advised that sometime within.- he -thirty days he intends to pay it off in cash. That is what he has informed a staff member. Councilman Gillum.. The reason I.am asking - isn°t this the area we had.a discussion on earlier this so much and then it Dame thyear ob .n the cost of weed aatement. being rough for more,. and I am wondering. if it woul not be an.advantags.to us to advise the _individual in written form so we have a copy of what was told to the individual and he also has a copy for future information or discussion, 8 Co Co 9-11-67 Page Nine 0 PROJECT S.P-67018_- Continued RESOLUTION NO. 3.673 The City Clerk presented* 98A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF ADOPTED THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CONFIRMING THE REPORT.OF THN STREET gVPERINTENDENT FOR CONSTRUCTION DONE--• R'SUANT TO RESOLUTION NO. 3570 ® 1838 AND 1842 WORKMAN AVENUE." Mayor Krieger: -Hearing.no objections, waive further reading of the body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman G-leckman, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that. the. council adopt said Resolution,. Motion carried on roll call as follows*. AYES*. Councilmen Gillum, Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES*: Councilman Nichols ABSENT*. None UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, 118. LOCATION* Easterly side of parking SKY -SLIDE, INC,_ lot at Eastland Center adjacent to Barranca Street, the ".Sky®Slide". in. -Zone No. 1974. Appealed. by Mayor Krieger* Request for amusement device known as C®.2 denied by Planning Commission Resolution applicant on August 17, 19670, Lela Preston, City Clerk: Madam City Clerk do you have the affidavit.of publication? Yes,. I have., Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that. the affidavitof blication be received and filed. Mr, Menard, Planning Director, presented the Planning Commission Resolution No, 1974. (Read entire Resolution,) Mayor .Krieger: Mr, Menard, Planning Director* Mr.._._Menard, is. that Resolution 1974 in. full? Yes it is., MAYOR KRIEGER STATED THIS WAS THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 118 ® SKY®SLIDE., INC. IN FAVOR ... Belton Hall, Vice -President We are appealing the. decision of the Sky -Slides, International Planning Commission purely based on our, feeling that it was, denied because of' the objections of the.Savings and Loan Association. They have contended that we would be blocking the view of their tenants, ft'.-have- maps. and various documents by which we can prove this is not so. We also feel that their ob jecti-erg-- to our slide as an unsightly thing which would be objectionable to their tenant-s is not valid. The building., as we. understand it, is principally facing -on Barranca with -a northern exposure.. Our slide would be so situated tbs,t. it would be slightly beyond and to the south with the afternoon sun shining right into the back part of their structure and it seems very unlikely during those hours when we have most of our attendance at the slide, that the attorneys, doctors and other tenl&Ats would be looking out the window and finding it objectionable to see these children enjoying themselves on our slide,. 9 OoC. 9-11-67 Wage Ilan HEARINGS 8ontinued UNOLASSIPIED USE PERMIT NO. 118 SKY -SLIDE, INO. o Oontinued This is our contention,. that it is .inequitable and without. validity.and in denying us this application simply on'their feeling is not fair. Mayor Krieger- You --indicated in your presentation that. you had something graphic, did you wish to present to council at this time.?. Belton Hallo Yes,`tf I may. We have an aerial view showing the approximate location. (Aerial view displayed on blackboard and described,) We contend that we would not be blocking the view of the' muilding . from people passing by for this reason - theme is a hill up to this.point and at this point anyone would be able to see a, -full half of this property from a range of 2501. You cannot see the building or our slide until you reach this point. You cannot see it from the Freeway coming east,. coming from the west it is not until you get to this po'sition that you can see our slide or their building, which is a proposed five story buildings so we would not be obstruoting.anyone°s view of their new Lailding. From the standpoint of the unsightliness as they have put its or their tenants looking out at the children on the slide, we contend the back of the building which would have exposure to our slide is going to have draperies or louvered blinds, which would be closed at the time we would have our attendance on the •slide and from 5-30 p.m., on I doubt that anyone would be in the building. The slide is a family thing and it will be used. by families in the early evening, so.,during the hours when we are busiest the building will not be occupied. And during the afternoon when we.would have attendance surely the drapes would be drawn by the tenants of the building - I assume. it is a.modern air conditioned building. It is for these reasons we do not feel the objection of the Savings & Loan Association are valid. K $ Short 2525 Richdale Hacienda Heights along.with all eleven which shows area.so it would be very pleasing look at the eleven requirements. - I mainly have one point to bring up. The gentlemen here were absent .at the other meeting where it was.., deuied. Mr. Menaced has drawn eleven requirements if we were accepted and we have..gone landscaping of shrubs, etc. ,, in the to the eye. If the ,gentlemen gill we have gone along with everyone. Mayor Krieger-. Sir what is your relationship to the a application?. Ken Shorts. I will be managing the Sky -Slide, James Oharter I am the manager of the. Eastland 433 So. Meadow Road Shopping Oenter. The May Oompany owns West Oovina the Eastland Center as you know, and we also have another center on which a Sky -Slide is operating and we fund them very fine tenants •and that is the reason they have been selected for the Eastland. We have several million dollars invested at Eastland and we do not want to detract people from Eastland but we grant to attract them and we are Tunable to have a birthday party every week. We hope we can work it out with our neighbors. We de feel it will add to the.area and bring in business. o. C.o 9-11-67 Page Eleven INGS - Continued UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 118 SKY, -SLIDE, INC. o Continued • IN OPPOSITION Steven J. Patrick Columbia Savings plans to.expend Vice -President somewhere in excess of 06009000 Columbia Savings & Loan Asso, in construction of tAe building on 5220 Wilshire Blvd. the property we own Which protrudes Los Angeles into the Eastland Shopping Center. We had several architects coming up with drawings and have now signed an agreement with the architect and we hope that the construction will start shortly. This building -we propose to erect, the smaller portion of the building faces Barranca-and the building is oriented with its windows to the north and south. The area of the proposed Sky®Slide would be to the far side of this building, but the primary orientation of the. tenants on the upper floors is in the direction of the Sky -Slide. We protest not only because of the proximity to our locatinn but because of -the carnival atmosphere that this type of thing is bound to engender, we don't think it will contribute materially to the type of thing we are trying to. bring into the City of West Covina,.. or the type of establishment or decorum that we are trying to have conducted at this location, or primarily for the types of professional people ® dentists, doctors, attorneys - we are trying to attract to this rather expensive budding. The view of passersby, as mentioned by the proponents of this proposition, would be obstructed to some extent. Certainly our present sign can be seen by people on the freeway and we are convinced that the view of our building ,from the freeway and the approaches to that site would be.masked.by any structure -of the height they roppose to erect. In any event no matter how it is camouflaged or prettied up, it is bound to be unsightly. There is no two ways about this; We don't object to the entertainment of children, obviouslymostof our savers are family people. We do think that May. Company has other acreage of parking and if they want this traffic puller that there are other areas within their parking lot where they can erect this structure and bring in traffic for their tenants and not incur the objections..which we see particularly where we have this large expenditure of capital and this type of building contemplated, The other point which the proponents have made is that basically this will be used by young children after 6 at night, this seems rather untenable but were this true we thank they would be there early in the day and it does not engender the type of atmosphere in our feeling, that should be this close to a structure of this sort and for those purposes that we intend its construction, Po Robert White I just wish to add my support to Vioe-President Mr. Patrick's statement with regard to Columbia Savings & Loan Assoc the visual aspect of having a Sky -elide 5220 Wilshire Blvd. immediately to the south of our Los Angeles building. Further, we have suggested alternate locations to Sky -Slide and for some reason they do not wish to consider changing the location, One location, which we think would be ideal is the corner of Workman and the private road running north and south and terminates at Workman. This is a parking facility of May Company and the year and a half of our temporary office being opened, I 49re never seem that parking lot even a fractioxr full. We do not object to the Sky -Slide, if it is the type of thing to oring business to the Center that is fine, but we do not feel it is the type of environment we are trying to create and provide Co C.. 9-11-67 Page Twelve 11 E HEARINGS e Continued UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 118 SKY -SLIDES INC. - Continued REBUTTAL Mr. Halls, I would like to show the council the .-earance of the Sky -Slide. I have color photographs here. (Mayor Krieger asked if they had been submitted to the opponents. They were not and for that reason were not allowed to be submitted.) Mr. Hallo We appreciate the feelings of the Savings & Loan --Association in feeling this might be something unpleasant to their tenants, however, we do feel they are entirely wrong in their reference to the type of traffic which this will create. The people that attend our slides are family groups. Completely family groups. Anyone observing our slide will see the mothers and fathers with their little children. They bring them to the slide because little children have very little in the way of .entertainment. .We feel we do a __great deal in the way of bringing traffic to a Center, which certainly would accrue to all of the tenants including the Savings & Loan .Associam ti.on. I know at this point that they probably don't feel we can be helpful in anyway, but we recently installed one of these slides at the Sears & Roebuck South Center in Fort Worth and Mr. Orth, the operating head of their Homart Real Estate Division has toad us.that they have been very pleasantly surprised at the tremendous increase in traffic at the Center. Their food operations have doubled, all the merchants have noted decided increases in their sales and I should think this would not only be of interest to the Savings & Loan Association -but also to every citizen of West Covina and the merchants that are tenants of -the Center. I might also add that if we can somewhat adjust our slide to better accommodate the feeling of the Savings and Loan Association we are certainly happy to do so, but at this point it doesn't look so-thatigh we can and inasmuch as the parking level is 51 below the building level, we are talking about a 551 structure being overwhelmed by a 301 structure. Thank you. Mr; Short. One point I did want to make as far as the location as pointed out on the map by the gentleman from the Savings &. Loan Association. (Used the map) Part of this back part will be parking and anywhere from this street this slide will not block it at all and this we felt was the main objection why it was not passed at the Planning Commission. But to this side of the proposed building which they will be facing is a car wash with no shrubs and no trees. Now how can something which is blue and be completely shielded and have shrubs around it not be less harsh on the eyes than a car wash with no shrubs. We are only going to be about 30° high and their building can be seen from the freeway and their building will not be blocked at all by the Sky=Slide. Mr. Patrick mentioned the carnival type of atmosphere which the dlide will give, which is not true at all. • If it were, the holdings,that May Company have, they would not want it and we would not be successful in five other locations we have throughout the country, all in large areas. At the last gentlemen from the Savings & Loan mentioned objectionable if we left it in that area but facing it the other way. So for that reason from the last meeting that :fie agin ob jectio them from Barranca. - meeting I recall one of the that it would be less turned it around, just we were led to believe n was that we were blocking m 12 C. C., 9-11-67 Page Thirteen HEARINGS m Continued UNCLASSIFIED.USE PERMIT NO, 118 SKY --SLIDE,, INC. 4 Continued Mayor Krieger-, Let's restrict the rebuttal to what has been presented to the council tonight,, please. Mr, Shorts I am sorry. Thank: you. Gearge .Lane I am the Presldent of- Sky -Slide a Inc 4333 Foreman Avenue In taking a look at the building North Hollywood which is sometimes not -exactly a: replica of what will actually be built and it Possibly will be more beautiful,, however,, in most buildings I don't believe the tenants usually sit around and gaze out of a building. I am not denying that you don't look out if it is available,, but that design doesn't look to me like it is leaning towards a lot of window space,, there are more columns than windows, .But notwithstanding that,, thia.slide is designed from the flat ground level to a maximum height of 35'. The width of the area of 351 from the top immediately goes down so you don't have a.structure per se of 35' high but for about 2 or 3' and than it goes right on down. So the maximum width that would be objectionable from obstructing would be very minimized. The slide is the color of blue and is quite attractive from an architectural standpoint. We have been told this by architects anyway,, that it is quite attractive. The only other item I might mention is this was a device designed for families.. We are in other amusement businesses but we do feel that this is a plan for a family recreational center. -THE CHAIR DECLAItE-D THE PUBLIC HEARING ON UNOLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, 118 CLOSED. COUNCIL DISCUSSION IN ORDER, Councilman Snyder-, I have two questions of the City Attorney. What is the required showing for an Unclassified Use Permit and secondly,, can we deny an ' Aclas,sified 14se Permit except on violation of this showing? Mayor Krieger; Can you respond to that Mr. ,Williams? Mr.Williams,, City Attorney. I could do it better by reading directly from the code, (Mr. Menard provided the i code and Mr. Williams read t,) Councilman Snydero Second question of Mr. Lane. Is this slide portable or is it permanent? Can it be torn down and removed? Mr, Lane. It has been designed and accepted in Los Angeles,, 02,, as a permanent structure,, however,, it can be removed. It can be torn down and relocated. Councilman Snyder, There is one along the San Bernardino Freeway o Mr, Lane, Yes Sir,, that is ours. Councilman Gleokman-, Mr,_Dane. or Mr. Short - is that the Sky -Slide in the .South Bay area m is that typical of the one you are speaking Mr, Short-, No sir,,.- that is not. That -is a temporary structure on wooden blocks. Ours is a m 13 0 C. C. 9-11-67 Page Fourteen HEARINGS - Continued UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 118 SKY -SLIDE, INC. - Continued permanent structure to the extent we sink our supporting members in 36" of concrete. Theira-is steel, whereas ours is a fiberglass sur- face.. Councilman Gleckman: I am primarily thinking of the looks of the structure. From the pictures they basically seem to be built on the same order. Both structures the sides are not closed. Mr..Shorto Yes sir, they are not closed, but we have agreed to conceal the sides with shrubs and landscaping. Councilman Gleckman: Mr. Mayor, I t3aink the idea of the Sky -Slide has a place and it probably .has a place at Eastland, but I think the location of the Savings & Loan Building ® that consideration should be given to the neighbors and I think is one of the reasons for a request for an Unclassified Use Permit rather than just installing a device of this type in a zone for it. I think under the consideration of the Unclassified Use Permit protecting the health and welfare of the neighbors that .it is going to be close to 0 o I know if I -had a building that would house a Savings & Loan or offices of any type, I too, probably would take exception to a Sky -Slide being allowed to be built next to this type of building. I feel if the Eastland does desire a • Sky -Slide in their location that their choosing of the location, and I am not here to choose the location, but I think the location is unappropriate in respect to the neighbors. I think Columbia Savings & Loan since they do object, have a valid objection and I intend to go along with their objection. Councilman Gillum: I have a question of Mr. Hall or Mr. Lane. Do you operate these, is it in Eastland to operate? under your name or leased to someone . Mr. Halls We operate most of our slides. In this case Mr. Short would be the owner® operator of the slide. It is a franchise program. We have a continuing interest in our slides for the life of the contract o tied.in with the insurance, etc. Councilman Gillums What you are doing then is leasing the property from 'the Eastland Shopping Center on a long term lease? Mr. Hall: We usually have a 5 year lease.. In this particular :instance the lease, has the life of a 10 year lease. Councilman Gillum: Thank you Mr. Hall. The thing that concerns me, gentlemen, and I could be M wrong on this. I agree with Mr. Gleekman on the location but I am also concerned ® a few years ago we had trampbl.inew all over the country and now I drive by and see holes In the ground and places left vacant without any opportunity or chance to change them. I notice that some of the requir-ements-put forth by the Planning Director put restrictions on this and a bond is being required in connection with it being abandoned. I can see the personal value of it. Again I am concerned with the location and I don't believe it , belongs in this place, but I believe there are other areas where It would be more suited than on a street of this type next to the Savings & Loan. ml4� C. C. 9-11-67 Page Pifteen HEARINGS o Continued • U19CLLSSIFIED USE PERMIT NO..118 SKY -SLIDE, INC. o Continued Councilman Nichols Mr. Mayor, my sentiments don't digress greatly from any of -those expressed so faro I think my reaction is that the gentl,emen.from the Savings &. Doan are probably somewhat exaggerating in their own minds the nati�x* of this recreation device and I think in a normal situation where both the use that they have and this proposed use might be Stnerally accepted uses, I.would probably discount their objections considerably more than I have here tonight., But I think the point raised concerning this being an Unclassified Use Permit is a very good one, that is certain uses have been established as being possibly and probably not suitable for a number of areas. So great discretionary authority is given there. I think Af At had been intended -that Eastland should have the right to put anything of this type any place on its premises that the shopping center zone would have included this tgpe of thing and it doesn°t. I think -anyone that bought property immediately around Eastland is entitled to a great deal of consideration at -anytime the council might allow uses that would not be considered appropriate in the area. I can see many locations on the Eastland site that if they hurt anybody they are going to hurt May Company, but if this does hurt anyone it is not May Company, and I am not saying it will hurt anyone but if it does it would hurt others more. I am inclined to go along with the school of thought -that says it won't hurt anyone and probably indeed would help, but I don't think I should take that right upon myself to go on that assumption and authorize something that could conceivably damage someone. Because of that ]Location, rather than being down by the Music Store or next to Eastland°s.maln entrance but because it -is -where it is. -and really closer•ta,*,ther eo leIs ro erty rather than to the develo ed property of the gas land enter, I would .have to defer to t�e_wishes of the adjoining property owners who have objected to it and say I would not be willing to vote for an.Unclassi ied Use Permit at that location, however, I don't say that I am not in favor of this operation on anyone ofa number of other locations in the shopping center. Councilman Snyders Before I make a comment I have another question.: Theme -is still .enough parking and room left for _May Company aaad the owners of the property to build a building at that ]Location, is -there not?_ Mr. Menard,, Planning Directors This _is. correct.. Councilman Snyders: A.nd.there are no architectural controls in that, area that would:.prevent. them building? from 'building a square boxlike type of Mr. Menard, Planning. Directors This is correct. Councilman Snyder.- It seems to me our only objection that we can use under the code, is the statement that it is harmful to the general welfare and thepublic good and since we could not apply these same controls to a building, if May Company wanted to build one • there, I don't see how we can restrict the slide. I: don°t see how we can legally restrict them from building there. I.see nothing sacr.osanc t about a Savings & Loan building and the type of building next to it, certainly this is no more harmful, as the proponents.have pointed out., than the -car wash, and although Idon't think this slide is a thing of architectural beauty, I think you are. denying something to these people that you wouldn't deny to others and I. don't really feel that legally we should or can prevent them from building the slide at that location. o 15 0 C. C. 9-11a67 Page Sixteen HEARINGS o Continued UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 118 SKY -SLIDE, INC. m Continued Councilman Gillum: Dr. Snyder - you are using a building • as an illustration and they have admitted this isa form of amusement, so I thin you are comparing.apples and oranges in a sense. Under buildings we have restrictions as far as the-oode and other things of that type. . • Councilman Snyders But they could build a perfectly square building there. Councilman Gillum: I am sure they coul-d, but --I am saying you are comparing an amusement comparing two different thinge. structure. with a building. You are Councilman Snyder.:. Ls .,Iong as it met the code they could .etar.t a square. boxlike building there with.c.ement blocks on the back. I am merely pointing out in my mind at least, we are denying these people a right that we would grant somebody else. Councilman Gleckman: Let me clarify this ® I don't think, Doctor, if they were building a building Use Permit. they would come in for an Unclassified Councilman Snyder: They wouldn't have to. Councilman Gleckmang. That's right-.. Now, therefore,. they have -to come in for an Unclassified Use Permit in this.instance, so evidently they are not building a building and we are.no.t denying them the same right if the man were putting a building up. Councilman Snyder: My point is there are no architectural controls in this area and:. -they could build, as long as it met the requirements of the c ide-, they could build. the....ugliest building possible and still obstruct the view. And .just because it may appear ugly or unattractive to some people is not a reason for keeping it from going in there under the code, Mayor Krieger: Mt. Patrick on your architects rendering here, perhaps I did not understand your explanation m m the lower section to the left, this is closest to Barranca?- Mr. Patrick: Yes sir. Mayor Krieger: Did you indicate we are-iac.ing this building, looking at it from the. south? • Mr. Patrick. - Mayor Krieger:, ing-, so we are not looking at Sky -Slide? Mr. Menard, Planning Director: From the north. And relating this to_the..aerial photograph Mr. Menard ® the Sky -Slide proposed location is to the south of this build - the architect's rendering facing the That is correct. (Explained ® using the aerial.photograph.) -16 -5z �Alc. 0. 9-11-67 Page B* HEARINGS - Continued UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 118 SKY -SLIDE, INC. - Continued Mayor Krieger-, There were some very interesting. • comments made at the time of the Planning Commission hearing on this matter. I am sure all of you gentlemen on the council have read the minutes of that hearing. The terminology gy that struck me is most at< issue in determinimg­.whether or not this adversely affects the general welfare, and I.assume we are talking about the general welfare of the area rather than that of the City of West Covina, is the architectural.compatibility of this structure with the general welfare of the facilities within Eastland Shopping Center. I find some' difficulty in resalving this question in ._favor of granting an Unclassified Use Permit. TheEastland.was de.aigned.to be and intended to be and claims to be a high grade commercial area. I don't know of any portion of Eastland that is being used on a continuing basis for amusement or recreation purposes.. If there are any shops being used for that purpose it has.not been brought to the council s attention and perhaps it is unintentional that they are being used for that purpose.. But I do.find trouble with the entire concept of the Sky -Slide from an architectural compatibility standpoint in terms of Eastland Center and not just the one proponent that *has ,come before us tonight in terms of their particular institution, but I am looking at the. institution of Eastland itself. I can't read into May Company's mind or the management corporations mind why they desire to have this facility on Eastland, but there is a certain inconsistency in.my mind at least. as. compared to the existing and contemplated anddesireduses. • for a high grade commercial center. This is no reflection on the, type of -glide, it is just an indisputable fact that it is an amusement ' device,,therefore I.would be opposed to the Unclassified Use Permit. Is there further discussion? A motion would be in order. Natoi-" by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the fte-1-Asalfied Use Permit No.- 118 be denied based on the incompatibility to the locality. Motion carried on roll call as follows-. AYESo.. Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman, Mayor Krieger NOES.,, Councilman Snyder ABSENT,a None (THE CHAIR DECLARED A 10 MINUTE RECESS AT 9 P.M. RECONVENED AT 9oo10 P.M.) VARIANCE NO. 595 WILLIAM SULLIVAN t LOCATION-0 126 South Glendora Avenue Request for non -conforming -identifica- tion signs in Zone C-1 denied by Planning Commission ResolutionNo. 1918. Appealed by applicant on Septei4ber 14, 1966. Held over from,.r'August 14, 1967, with hearing held open. Mayor Krieger,* 0 Mr. AiasBa, City Manager. - Mayor Krieger-, We have a staff report dated September 79 1967. Was the applicant made aware of this staff report? Yes. Mr. Sullivan is here tonight. The hearing is open on this. Mr. Sullivali is there anything you wish to present to the council? 17 C. 0. 9-11-67 Page Mtowteen VARIANCE 595 0. Continued IN FAVOR William Sullivan I have read the Planng Director's 126 So. Glendora result of his inquiry on this and West. Covina9 eTeryttk-ing is agreeable with me in my particular situation with the exception of one aspect of it. Th.-a point where I was asked to water- proof so to spear o these signs. In tkie, position they are being used they are under a 121 canopy that extends ever the building and have been up for approximately -1/2 years and have not gotten wet yet.. This is the only thing that I have against the findings of the Plamning DepaWtrn.ent,v I was hoping that the variance was granted MaV.thls would IDe part of it in my particular unique case.. IR OPPOSITION None. THE CHAIR DEOLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON VARIANCE 595 CLOSED. 0OU*0h DIPOU'SSION IN ORDER. Councilman Snyder. What kind of paint was used :on that? Mr. Suullivano It. -As., just a regular poster paint. It is actually butcher paper that our sign maker uses. Councilman Snyder8 That would run -if it got wet? Mr.. Sullivan' yes, Councilman Snyder8 My next q-uestionq to the Planning Director - if they didn't cover with glass but used paint that wouldn't tun or oil paints, would that be considered waterproof? Mr. Atassa, City Managere We discussed this with Mr. Sullivan in my office and the staff and myself went over various phases. For one thing th'e oil base paint would be more costly, Our feeling as far as the staff was concerned, signs of this type are exposed to the elements and should have some type of protection and. the staff gave him various suggestions. He does have a very unique probleii being that his' store front is so limited on the street frontage and limited to where he could pint inside signs, which would be- prote-ated like (other markets. Councilman Snyder. Would it be so difficult to pint a, piece of plexi-glass inside that frame? Mr. Sullivan.- This was one of the sugges-tions that Mr. Aiassa and Mr. Menard gave me. It can b dome but it will be very impractical with the -system we use for doing this. It can be done but it will, be impractical. Councilman Snyder' Mr. Sullivan-, Councilman Gleckmans Is the frame large enough? That is another problem, it is just about 1/4" and you can just about get in them with what we are using now. How often do you change the signs? M . . Sull 6 G ans Weekly. lam- o o C. C. 9-11-67 Page HEARINGS ----Continued VARIANCE 595 o C o nt inue d Councilman Nichols- I have followed this, -particular matter with interest from its inception. It' •first came to any attention when I believe Mr.,Sullivan was cited by the City of Vest Covina as being in violation of the sign ordinance as it existed at that time. At -that time I explored the problem and perceived that existing businesses in West Covina-, such as his, would be operating at a tremendous handicap compared to a busixess .ire. masses of glass frontages exist. The staff, for a long time now., has been working on the sign ordinance and did in effect modify the sign ordinance to provide relief for many of the businesses and the variance Caere, as I understand it, provides some additional relief. I think it will be taken in good faith ® my comments that is, that I feel that when the.City and the council engages in legitimate and sincere efforts to ease the burden on gentle- men in business in the community in -ordea, to put it on a fair footing, that the gentleman has a responsibility and perhaps some additional expense, to make these variances in operation as attraotive .and as much in keeping with the general. spirit of current ordinances as it can and although it might involve some additional Framing and boxing I believe the recommendation by the staff is em nently fair and the City has gone a long way too, so gentlemen, it would be my opinion that the variance as it is drafted should be approved and the applioant work with the staff, who I am sure will be just as cooperative in the implementation of this as they have been in the past to help the applicant work out a plan to keep the facility as attractive to the cgmmunity as posiible., I would favor the variance as directed. 9 Councilman G leckmans This does not necessarily mean over it, am I correct?: Mr.. Namaxd,.:Planning Directors Councilman Gl,eckmans we are trying to do, Mr. Menard,.Planning Director-, Councilman Snyder, Mayor griegers According to the oondition written here, it says o ."whereby these zzader boards should be made -wcsatherproof!' that he must place glass or pleximglaass Thiswould be correct. I just wanted to clarify this second condition, as Tong as the sign becomes weatherproof this is primarily what ,This is correct. Just so we don't have loose papers, etc., and so the sign can be read. I don't think -we can sit here d_ desig4: sigms but perhap-a pl,exi-gluts with a hinge on trip .... Any further discussion on this? A motion is in order. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that Variance 595 be approved for 8 reader boards 3 x 5° and that conditions l and 2 of the report dated September 7,,,196 , be .incorporated. Mayor Krieger. - It has been moved and seconded o based upon, a finding that the four conditions have been satisfied? So moved by Councilman Gleckman and con.ded by Councilman Gillum. Motion carried- on roll call as fol7levan ,AYES$ Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Snyder, Gleckmana Mayor Krieger NOES- None SEN 4 None G O C. C. 9-11-67 Page Twenty - GENE - MATTERS ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Mrs..Juune O. ,White. I- had delivered a communication to 1234 W.-Cameron Mr. Aiasea°s office this afternoon, I • Nest Covina did not realize but I was told it was delivered too plate to be taken under considerat�Dn by the Councilmen this evening. I felt it could be more easily understood if they had read the ccmmuunbicationg but I would like to take a few minutes to orally summarize it. If I may? Mayor Krieger-0 You have that privilege. ]bra. Whites It is in reference to a p,,9=e1 of which I am half owner,, just north of Cortez Parkq and a parcel which the City has had under agreement with Mr. Garnier and myself for many gears for the parking of oars. About 3 years age I had been talking to Mr. Aiassa saying that I no longer desired to enter into a future lease with the City and desired to sell my half interest to the .City. He asked that I give another lease so that he might have time to work this out. This year when we discussed it Mr..Alassa felt the asking price was too high, so I am now coming before the council to say I have a now proposal. if that is the feeling of the council also, that I would be willing to place the matter before the Americam.Arbitration 1,-,�,Zoeaiation and I would agree to be bound to sala, .the -,''figure then. . aet- by them if the City would also be agreeable to be bound to purchase at the same figure. •The reason I came before you totight is if you are interested in considering this proposal, that the matter. does need Your early attention and I will read that portion of the communication.- "Even though the discussion of the purchase of my half interest was not contingent on the pchase of the other half divided Interest,, whi-&h.:Incidentally Mr. Garnier owns but is -not willing __to sellq but his interest is now .going to be sold at an execuutian sale pursuant to judgment at a Los Angeles Sup-erior Court on September 28thIp - and- I feel this might make Vhajuurchase of my interest that much more desirable from the C7itXs -point of view. r: My attorney has discussed some of the procedures that migffi with the City staff, and would have been willing to be here tonight but wasn't certain that we would be heards because I did brimg .the communication in too late. I Vouuld appreciate thecouncil taking It under advisement if they are at all interested in the proposal because of the .sake oozing up in the very near future. Mayer Kriegera to the council? (No one.) Councilman Smydera Xi,, Williamas,,City Attorney0 WRITTEN -COMMUNICATIONS Mayor Krieger0 Thank you for calling it " our attention. Is there anyone else desiring to present a communication Is an execution sale an auction sale? Yes. Sold to the highest bidder.. They can, fix -a minimum price. I see we have a letter dated..S.eptember 8 © which I presume is theletter Mrs. White mentioned. (Answers Yes. 9 A O C. C .. .9-11-67 Page .Twenty- OAIF- WRITTEN COMMUNICATION Continued Councilman Snyders I would life to point out we have a letter from the California Roadside Council that supports my stand on the . Sign Ordinance. Mayor ]Kriegers Let's go on with the agenda and under City Council matters, if it is the desire of the council to discuss any aspects of this matter, we can do so at the appropriate time. C I T.Y MANAGER SWIMMING POOL - Continued (THE CHAIR DECLARED THE SWIMMING POOL :DIBCUSSIObi BY COUNO 1 WOULD _NOSE CONTINUE.) Councilman Niohols.s I think Dr.o ..Snyder has raised a point that is interesting. I think it is a valid one and that it should be raised. But I feel the decision need not have been a final one and perhaps there are good reasons for changing it. I feel -it is a suggestion that should be explored thoroughly and for each oounoiltish. to do so o I would need at least a half hour and I just feel it miglit be held over for a...study session with the staff.. I feel this is so important and for the council to try and reach a decision here tonight. and then direct the staff to actively move ahead on itq I don't believe is in the best interests of our ultimate designs. I feel it "should be held over for a.study session where we can explore every possible aspect of it.- and teen we finally make a decision we won't be back at some later time after the project is underway. Councilman.Snyders I agree with that. We have..a..,.hearing next Monday night. I don't know whether it will run too long to add this on or not. Councilman Gillum. I would go along with Mr. Nichols and Dr. Snyder. Councilman Snyders I am not necessarily saying it shouldn't go in the school site, but I am saying we should look at all aspects. (Council agreed they would like to discuss the swimming pool further. Discussion followed with ragard to items already set for the adjourned meeting ®f September 18th. Agreed to have the Swimming Pool appear as an item on the agenda at 6 p.m. on September 18th," --Mr. Aiassa also advised that the matter of Business License was also scheduled for September 18th.) Notion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that these two items be considered concurrently - the Public Hearing that has been set at 8 p.m., on -September 18th, and the matter of the Swimming Pool at 6 p.m., on September 18th. to Civic CENTER PROJECT GENERAL TELEPHONE CONTRACT Motion by CouncAlman.Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the City Council authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute termination contract No. COV317 with the .General Telephone Company,. (Mayor ]Krieger asked the City Attorney if he had reviewed the Termination Contract and he replied he had and had made suggestion for the addition o � o C . .0 . .9-11-67 Page. Twenty 77&e CITY MANAGER - Continued CIVIC CENTER m GENERAL TELEPHONE CONTRACT thereto and that he had not seen the redraft but -had checked it via telephone as to the wordings) • CONSULTANT FOR CITY HALL AND POLICE FACILITY INTERIOR Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: We have discussed the interior furnishings and design but at this. time have never come down to specifically tying in all the colors, furnishings, carpeting, draperies, etc. Mayor Krieger: Mr. Alassa,.City Manager: as to furnishings. Councilman Snyder: Are you talking about the services of Mr. Sa re.? Is he an interior decorator- too? Yea„ We have discussed this with him many times and staffwise he has given us some very good suggestions Mr. Aiassa9 you can say the architects are color co-ordinators. Mrs Aiassa, City Manager: That is right. • Motion by Councilman. Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the council authorize the City -Manager to negotiate with the consulting interior furnishings design architect up to the amount of $15Go.GO. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ANNUAL REPORT Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: Councilman Gleckman: Mayor Krieger-,. Councilman Gleckman: Mrs Tambe advised me that ;he would be here but late. I would like to hold this off. I would ,ton It is just as well he is not here as I would lake the opportunity to read it first. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried, that the Chamber of Commerce Annual Report be held over to the meeting of September 25, 1967. ` Mayor Krieger: Mrs Aiassa, will you please.communicate with the manager of the Chamber of Commerce and ask that they be sure and have someone present when this report is considered by Council ot.the 25th of September. (Councilman Nichols asked if the council handed in their report (because they had already read tt) would staff save the. reports for the meeting of September 25tha Mr. Massa said it would be taken care of.) YOUTH CENTER TORGINAL FLOORING o FUNDING Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Counc-ilman Gillum, and carried, to hold this matter over to the meeting of September 25, 1967. Co Co 9-11-67 Page Twenty- ° 17_/Vrj�� CITY MANAGER o Continued FOURTH OF JULY PARADE COMMITTEE REQUEST Mr, Aiassa, City Manager- The staff has made a report and we reviewed all their requests and the •only items we had any reservations on, and I. believeyouu have the City Manager's report on this m - I would like to have restricted the. use of the xerox machines and the telephone. Motion by Councilman Nichols, sea ,ad by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the council.direct a letter be prepared over the Mayor's signature responding to Mrs. TeVault, advising..that. her request for services and equipment and assistance., as per her letter of July 31, 1967, has been granted, subject to the condition that all requests for the use of the xerox machines and the telephone lines arp presented through the City Manager's office and granted at the convenience of the City. TRUCKS IN STREETS AND DOWNTOWN AREA Report on Councilman Gillum°, request Councilman Gillum; I have the report submitted by Mr. Xen&rd. after his meeting with Mr. Williams and after reading this I feel that what Mr. Williams has recommended should cover 'this area that I am concerned with. •Motion by Councilman Nichols, Seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the council direct the City Attorney to place himself in charge of the project of preparing the final.wording of an Ordinance. under the Municipal Cade rather than the Zoning Ordinance, covering the matter covered briefly -:in the staff report of September 8, 19670 CATV FRANCHISE REQUEST Motion by Councilman---Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried., that this matter be held over to the meeting of September 25, 19670 BUSINESS LICENSE REVISION Motion by Qouncilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried that this item be held over to the meeting of September 25, 19670 ITEMS FOR OOUNCIL.INFORMATION Mayor Krieger- Items 9 through 14 are all Informational Items. Does- the council desire to discuss any ux -uhose- items? Councilman Nichols: Yes, Item 13. • Mayor Krieger- Any discussion on any other except -that? I would like to discuss Item 10 - Cortez Park Evaluation, Is there a motion to - receive and file 9 - 11 12 0 14? So moved by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried. �11-67 Page Twenty- FOUL ITEMS FOR COUNCIL. INFORMATION - Continued SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT ON DN. MC C.OLL- SUGGESTION • Councilman Nicholas I have read the staff report in which the Police Chief and the Fire Chief indicated they did not feel it was necessary to use such spllints and the wording of the report indicated they are using no splints whatsoever. Therefore, this is not replacing some type of splints being used, but that they just don't feel the need to use splints and mentioned the fact that their personnel are not technically trained,, etc. I just wanted to mention that in every elementary school in the city the new type splint, referred to in the report, is in supply in every school in the communityy and all administrators and nurses have been instructed to use it. It is very simple, and it has been furnished to 'as on 8uppcsedly ,,ery competent medical advice that we have been given, and that to more an 1adividual at all any distance if they happen to have a compound fracture or a possibility of a compound fracture might be very dangerous. I have personally used it and seen it in use and it is not a difficult thing to use.,,` I. just felt that perhaps our own Police Chief and Fire Chief may Act have explored as far as they might have under the circumstances. I somehow thought there was -considerable merit in having this type of thing available to our people and I just didn't want to let it drop without having some response from others on this subject,namely Dr. Snyder. Councilman Snyder. Well,. at course in school the school • nurse puts them on usually. I.tend to agree with the statement here that -the possible liability is small as compared to the possible good that might be accomplished. It would be easy for every car in the field to carry one of these splints for a leg and one for- aim arm. I really think that. the Police.. -Chief and Fire Chief should reconsider their feelings regarding this, however, I wouldn't want to force it .&Aiem. 09;dilman Nicholas The point that. came to mind was what does the Police Detftment and the.Fire Department do now if they are required by the extremity of the situation to more some person a short distance or any distance at all that may be suffering from a broken leg? Do they mover absolutely move anyone umtll the ambulance arrives? Councilman Snyder,- There is another probllem,. If they put one of these on and the patient went to the hospital the problem of getting them back. They cost a fair amount of money, so your wouldn't get all ®f. them back. The City would have to replenish them. Councilman Glackman,- I know the Fire Department use a card- board type of splint', I don't know about the Riiao Department. Councilman Snyder,-,, This- is much better than the cardboard type. • Councilman Gleckmans I.know but I was talking about the cost as compared to what they are using now and whet is -being pruposedo I would think we would have to. ,he the -Police Chief and Fire Chief ,here in order to determine what their intention and reasoning, aside from what was written in the report, whether it was a matter of doll.ars.. and vents, and also in answer to Councilman Nichols question - what do they d-o now? Councilman Nichols,-. I- wotfld like to see on a pilot program one or two care be equipped with these splints and then after a number of o o 0. 00 9-11-67 Page Twenty- %/P/E ITEMS FOE COUNGIZ, INFORMATION - Caitinued SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT ON BP. McCOLL SUGGESTION months or a year, report back to the council on staff utilization, if any, and also the staff response to the situation. I certainly •don't think we should go all, out but to just forget it altogether when they --are in­ftct being used by many public and private institutions with great effect, I think is a mistake. Councilman Snyder-. I would agree with that. Mayor Krieger-. It seems to me that ultimately you might get down to the point that you are shoving it down the Police Chief and Fire Chief°s threat. You can salve it anyway you want but the* have served'dn this Committee and the reason we sent it to this Committee was to have the"question fully explored by them. I don't know what their full reasoning was but this re_port tells us something about their reasoning and if we get to a point where we say ® well we think you ought to do it, of course, they will have to do it. But they know their personnel, and the field situation better than we do. I was very interested in the program and I was hopeful they would come up with more responsiveness to this idea too, but they have been given the opportunity to review for better or worse and they feel it is not adaptable for the people in the field. I believe we should go along with the report, they know more about their own, personnel than we do. Councilman Nicholso About 99 time out of 100 we do go along • with it. I am not going to overrule it now, but I think -they are wrong and I want the City Manager to advise them that 1-think they are wrong. I think they have not explained to me, at .least as a couuncTiman, in this staff report with any satisfaction at all as to the basis for their decision to not want to try it, in any form whatsoever. I will accept their decision. Councilman Snyder-, I think they are wrong if their main reasoning is they are afraid of the liability involved. Councilman Gleckmans I would suggest Mr. Mayor, that we discuss this with the Chief of Police and the Fire Chief next Monday night. .And at that time come to some c onalus icy.. Councilman Gillum-. I am wondering something gentlemen o we aaket then for an- expression on this and -apparently they did take it into consideration and now it appears we are going to bring them down here publicly.... Councilman Gleckmarn-. What do you think Mr. Aiassa?. Mr. liassa, City Manager-. I don't think it would be a good idea to bring them down here publicly. We can make one r000mmendlation to both chiefs and tell them if they would be willing to consider a pilot program, but like the Mayor pointed out, we are just making another point to them in a different direction. Councilman Snyder-, Why don't we put it to them that we ask them to consider a pilot pro ggram instead of making them consider it? Councilman Gillum-. What are we daring o in a sense are -not we saying we.want this tried? You said we are saying we -would like t® ha�euadiilot particularly want -it but now y g p program. ad C o C o 9-11-67 ITEMS FOR COUNCIL.INFORMATION Continued Page Twenty swp&n s/X SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT ON DR. MC COLL SUGGESTION Councilman Snyder: No, I said - will you consider a pilot program? Mayor Krieger: Let's get a motion on the floor and see what action we get. Motion by Councilman Snyder that the Police Chief and Fire Chief be asked if they would consider -a pilotprrogr of enough plastic splints to equip two units, one police and one fire, Councilman Nichols- I agree with Dro .Snyder°s sentiments but I don't want to put it in the form of a motion. I have already conveyed my sentiments. Mayor Krieger- Motion dies for lack of a second. Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Gleckman, and carried, that the report be received and filed. CORTEZ PARK EVALUATION Mayor Krieger: We have a report from the City Manager, also under .Oral .Communications we heard •from Mrs. White on this subject, and we have a further written communication from Mrs. White, four pages in length, which was received in t anlght°.s mail and we have.obvicusly not had the opportunity to go through It. Mr. Aiassa, has this matter of arbitration been considered at all by the City? Do you have a position to state at this time?. Mr, Aiassa, City Managers We have bad other proposals and we are now reviewing these with the appraiser that we hired and the City Attorney. I am not at liberty tonight to give an opinion one way or the other. Councilman Snyder: There _is also the problem, 1f we did submit to arbitrations we also -have to determine whether we have the funds to pay for it. Mayor Krieger: That is why I am asking if the City Manager is in a position to comment at this date. Mr. Williams, can a city stipulate a binding arbitration as a matter of procedure? Mr. Williams, City Attorney: Ordinarily not, and the cities have taken a rather strong position that they cannot in connection with labor contracts. The abrogation of the council°s prerogative is to submit to a binding arbitration, m which -is ... to,determine whether or not you are going to spend the people's money. • r Mayor Kriegers I would like tz'aave the opportunity to review this report from the City Manager along with the letter of September--8tho .Perhaps we could.add. it to the agenda next Monday night. Councilman Gillum: Would it be proper, since we are faced with apparently a time limit on this, and :.I :am_mo.t quite. sur4_...if all the information that we have would let me make an honest- decision pertaining to this property, o I am wandering -if it would be possible to have oneor two councilmen sit down with the people involved and the City Manager and aiF� a� 0. 0. 9.-11-67 Page TwentyS',vEti ITEMS FOR.COUNCID INFORMATION o Continued CORTEZ PARK EVALUATION report back to this council after researching all avenues of all things • involved. Mayor Krieger,* We could create an ad hoc committee for -the Vpose, if that is the de -sire of the council, Councilman Gillum,* I personally would like to see it, because there are a number of things not listed in here or in the letter that concerns me, Councilman Nichols,* Do you have anyo.ne.in mind Mr. Gillum? Councilman Gillum,* No, I don't. I am not volunteering, I am just throwing it out as a suggestion. Councilman Nichols,* There has been some inference that.the council has not been informed, when as a matter of fact I think the council has beano - I think perhaps also it is time for a representative of the council to join with the City Manager.an.d conduct any further discussions that might be deemed desirable before the council proceeds further. Councilman Snyder-, I would.agree.with that, but I think we • are wasting our time unless we also at the same.time direct the City Manager to come up with an analysis of whether we have the funds or when we can have the funds, Councilman Gillum,* I think there are many facts that are not brought out here and there are many facts that can be discussed with the owners of the property. I am sure if we come to a .determined point of price and if it was the desire of this council and the recommendation of the. councilmen to participate, that we could find a way to purchase. the property, Mayor Krieger-,, The recommendation on this itet by the City Manager has to do with the analysis of the availability of funds, so the whole thing might be tied together, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that two councilmen be appointed to work with the staff. Mayor Krieger-, Motion has been made and seconded that the City Manager, City Attorney and two councilmen be directed to discuss with the owner of this property in terms of negotiation and possible acqul sition and availability of funding. . Councilman Nicholas I feel the Mayor should be one. ,'Councilman Snyder,* (All were in favor of the motion. Gillum and the Mayor,) It is implied in the motion that the Mayor should appoint people, Mayor Krieger appointed Councilman o - 19 m C o C o 9-11-67 Page Twenty-E/GiyT CITY CLERK ABC APPLICATIONSo National Drive -In Grocery Corp. (Stop °N Go Market) 130 No Hollenbeck Cen-Maroo, Inc. (Center Market #3) 126 S. Glendora Motion by Councilman Gle.ckman, seconded by .Councilman Gillum, and carried to accept the recommendation of No Protest on both appl1ca® tions. .0 IT.Y TREASURER No report, (Council inquired as to the health of Mrs, Hoffland, City Treasurer, and Mr. Aiassa informed them that she. was..coming along nicely.) MAYOR'S REPORTS (Presentation of Resolutions of commendation to Philip Wax and Louis Brutccao taken up earlier in the evening,) PROCLAMATION Constitution Week o September 11 to 179 1967 Mayor Krieger-, Pop. Warner Football WeYA .. Septeffiber -ll to 179 1967 Mayor Krieger-, FOREST LAWN of there are no objections, I will proclaim the week of September 11 to 17, 1967'. Constitutiox Yeeko No objections. This came in the mail late, but if there are -no ob j eotions, it will be proclaimdd concurrently with 0onstitution Wash. No objeations., Mayor Kriegers z° rtoeivsd a communication from the i'lanning Director in tonights mail, unfortunately the information was only Imparted to him today and this is in regard to Forest Lawn zone exception . case, .The recommendation is to authorize the sending of a telegram indicating West Covina°s opposition to deletion of conditions .4 and 50, These are aesthetic conditions apparently havinZ to do with the development of this property, Motion by Councilman G1aakm ,, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried,, that the City Council go along with the recommendation and authorize the City Manager to send a telegram consistent with the staff report, CO.UNOIL .COMMITTEE REPORTS Councilman.Gillumo I attended a tour held by the Upper District into the tunnel for thl MWD Water supply coming through the Feather River project. We went back into the side. of the mountain some 62001a I was pits imp ressed and also amazed at the slow progress they made, about 30 in a 2�G hour period into the rock. We made a complete tour of the tunnel and the projaot was explained 'to us, o �. o C. C, 9-11-67 Page 'ZUO17y Mtit COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS o Continued One other thing I.would like to ask Mr. Aiassa to look.into. We have --a amerandum from Mr. Zimmerman on the Board of Directo-rs meeting of the Upper S.G.V.W. District on June 20th and there is a statement that 200,000 acre feet of water was spread for replenishment purposes at the cost of $300,000. Could you •find out for me when and where this water was spread? Everything I read in the papers indicates that replenishment water is to replenish the water in the basin below our area here and as I understand reading in the papers that the level'..is.going up tremendously G Q I haven't looked through the minutes I'have at home but I will, but will you find out for me when and where and during what period of time, �oaoo®m�m®m Councilman Nichols: Two items. Mr; Aiassa, could you by any chance give the council any insight on the development of the mound of earth out on Garvey? Is the height of that mound what it is going to look like.? Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: I have R topagraphical. map for each councilman. This item- will be''sent to you tomorrow. Councilman Nichols: Second item. Mr. Zimmerman do you happen to recall offhand, the north side of Merced between California and Glendora is that on the 5 year master plan for improvement? Mr. Zimmerman, Ass°t. City Engineer: I think I know the spot you mean. West of the Elk°s Ledge. I don't believe m but I could certainly get the report rapidly and be sure of it, but I don't, believe it is. Councilman Nichols: I have a request to make then. Mr. Aiassa, will you provide for me just a rough estimate of what it would cost to run redwood header, and bring that section of Merced Avenue up to two lanes in both directions,, that appears tG-be the only remaining section of Merced Avenue e$sterly of at least Willow, perhaps even the Freeway, that is not now four lanes in both dire-etions and in that we did that to Azusa Avenue at one time, I would like to have the council have the benefit of that information. I am talking about the part of Merced Avenue immediately adjacent. to California Avenue and westerly of the Elk ° s Councilman Snydero I would like to ask staff is there any plan to put a .sign identifying the mound of earth out here? For several reasons ® I heard someone ask the other day - what that mound of earth was and the reply was a new city hall and they said it couldn't be because we voted against it, What I really have in mind is a large sign saying project such and such o Frank Bonelli Supervisor, Harvey Krieger Mayor ® is there a sign being made? • Nero Aiassa, City Manager: Yes. it has been ordered, Councilman Snyder: Secondly, I want to bring up the League of California Cities ® Tuesday, night they passed a resolution regarding sources of revenue which bears out my.feelings regarding the cigarette tax. That even though at the present time the 1.egiblktbr.ei. has put no restriction and it can go to your General Fund, there is still a provision of the constitution that subvention is a state tax that has to be used for state purposes and by any whim of the legislature 3* a7 C. C. 9®11-67 COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS m Continued Page Thirty in the future they could require that this money be used for anything they designate and for this reason the League passed this -resolution. This tax does differ from the Sales Tax, we get that back because that was an enabling tax. The main purpose of the resolution was to ash for a repeal of that portion of the constitution which requires State subventions to be used for State purposes. I merely bring it up as something to keep in mind. DEMANDS Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the council approve payment of demands totalling $227,726.45 as listed on demand sheets B331 through B334 and payroll reimbursement sheet; included in this total is a time deposit in the amount of $100,000.00. Councilman GilluEt: Mr. Aiassa, $250. to the University of California ® what is that for? Mr...Aiassa, City Managers That is the staff training program. Co,*ncilman Gillum: Was this figured in our budget? Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: Yes. Motion carried on roll call -as follows: • ' AIRI Councilmen Gillum, Nichols, Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES: None ABSENT: None Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried, that the council adjourn at 10:10 p.m., until the hour of 6 p.m. on the 18th of September, 1967. ..m ATTEST: 0 City Clerk