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08-14-1967 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULka MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST COVINA9 CALIFORNIA AUGUST 14, 1967. The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor • Krieger at 7.30 pIto9 in the West Covina City Mall, Councilman Gleckman led the Pledge of Allegia,nca6 The Reverend Konrad Kcesman, Christ Lutheran Church, gave the invocation, • • ROLL CALL Presen�� Mayor Krieger, Councilman Gillum, Gleckman :Snyder, Absents Councilman Nichols Also Presents George Aiassa, City Manager Ho R, ast, Public Service Director George Zimmerman, Ass°tn City Fnginser Owen Menard, Planning Director Harry Williams, City Attorney Lela Preston, Deputy City Clerk Ray Windsor, Administrative Assistant • Harry Peacock, Administrative Aide Chief Calvin Watherbee Chief 1116n Sill Leonard Flirt, Acting Controller APPROVAL OF MINUTES JILIY 179 1967 m Approved as corrected-, Mayor Krieger.- I noticed a duplication on Pages 25 and 26, so the minutes should be 29 pages in length rather than 300 Councilman Gl,eckman moved that the minutes of the adjourned regular meeting of July 179 196T9 be accepted as revised. Seconded by Councilman Gillum and carried. July 24, 1967 - Approved as carrecteds Mayor Kriagero On Page 269 Where Councilman Gl•eckimaan asks Sure 0cuncilman Rinal,di and Councilman .,. o 11 this should read 9°Cc cilma,n Rinal,di and Councilman Leonard Soper". And my reply ehould read 80Montcla.ir" rather than "Monterey Park".. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gleckman, and carried, that the minutes of the regular meetingcf guly 24, 19679 be approved as corrected. July 31s, 1967 Mayor Kriagers victim"- and an Page a, thing as an agency Mr. Tertian°s reply Approved as corroded-, b would, offer the following corrections - Page 19 a statement attributed to me shows a blame o the words to be inserted are "Litigious 23 a statement by Councilman Gillum m "is there -sued clause" should read 09urgency clause" o And again should react 00no, there is an urgency. clause, e1 Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gl.eckman, and carriada that the minutes of the adjourned regular meatirg of July 31., 19679 be approved as corrected. 1 C. C, 8-14-6 7 Page Two (Mayor Xzisger requested that the presentation of Resolutions and Certificates to General Pl..a.n. Committee be held off until later, thereby allowing the members a bit more time to appear. CITY CIERV S REIPCR'IS TRACT NO. 22097 LOCATION,,, Dots 3 and 4 of Tract 22097 90SEPH Jo DAL CERRO northwest corner of Grand Avenue and Virginia Avenue Motion by Councilman G1eckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that Mr. Dal Cerro be notified that uupen, completion of the Garand Avenue storm Arain project the City will institute proceedings to quitclaim the drainage easement across lots 3 and 4 of Tract 22097 providing that the pipe across the property is either plugged at Virginia Avenue or removed completely, and that the Cite be relieved of any farther responsibility for the pipe across subject property by approved agreement , Councilman Snyder°o As a matter of form, . eay he fails to plug the pipe and he is not released from his easement, is the City stil,:l. responsible? (Mr. Williams,. City Attorney, was given a copy of the report by -the Mayor and Basked to read it and the couunci,:l, would return. to the question after Mr. Williams had an opportunity to look the reppr°t over. ) RESOIXTION No. 3652 The Deputy City Olerk presenteda "A RESOLUTION OF THE' CITY COUNCIL OF DO��ED THE, CITY OF WEST COVIN1, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A QUITCLAIM DEED, PRECISE PLAN N.D. H2O =y ]PARCEL 3S109v Mayor Krieger- Rearing; no o bJecti,on, waive further reading of thebody of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, escaudled by Cauu.ncilman Gillum, that toe Council a4opt said Resolution. Notion carried on roll, call vote as followson AYE'Ss. Councilmen Gill,u�, �iTCDES o bane SENT0 Councilman Nichol-, Mayor Kriegerso Gleckma,n, Snyder, Mayor Krieger Your question now Dr. Snyder? Councilman Snyder-, KF question is appaXentl.y ws don't want to grit the glzitclalm Until the pipe 4as been pa egged 'because of the liability factor, say he fails to - then we sti.l.l have the easement and are we still liable? Mr. Williams, .City Attorneys, As I understand the recommendation, no resolution would be adopted until the new pipe would be put in., Mayor Krieger. And that would require a separate and independent action of the council,, I believe, to a.utttjori ze a quitclaim dead and,I don't believe the staff would make the recommendation until the condition has been satisfied. 2 'I I 0 Co Co 8-14-67 CITY 0LERKIS.REP,0RT.S - Continued TRACT :NO. 22027 - Continued Page Three Mr, Williams, City Attorney.- This is my understanding of the recommendation - after the county has Finished its work there will be more than adequate drain facility so the easement will no longer be required. This should not be quitclaimed until after the county has completed the installation of the larger pipe. 1968 WEED AND RUBBISH ABATEMENT PROGRAM adopt resoli;tion. LOCATION: Various tbxough- out the City, Review Engineer -Is report. Accept Engineer's report and Motion by Councilman Gleckman,, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and c4rriedg that the Council review and accept the Engineer's report. RESOLUTION NO. 3653 The Deputy City Clerk presented: � "A RESOLUTION'OF-THE '-CITY 'COUNCIL OF THE ADOPTED CITY OF WEST COVINA DECLARING ALL RUBBISH -AM REFUSE'UPON9 AND-AILWEEDS GROWING UPON SPECIFIED STREETS AND PRIVATE PROPERTY TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND DECLARING THE CITY'S INTENT'ION TO: REMOVE AND' ABATEE'THE' SAME' UNDER* AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROVISIONS * OF- TITLE -4, DIVISION:39 PART 29 CHAPTER 13, ARTICLE, 29 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE." Mayor Krieger.- Hearing.,no,objection, waive further reading of the 'body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Snyder,, seconded by Councilman-Gleckman, and carriedg that the coU4cii adopt said resolution,, (Councilman Gillum called attention to the fact that although an address listed was correct the name of the individual organization was not correct. He was advise&that'it had been taken from the last available book and it was suggested tha6t'he-contact the assessor's office.,) Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES- Councilmen Gillum, NOES 0 None 0 ABSENT: Counci-lman Nichols PROJECT SP-67018 STREET IMPROVEMENT 1911 ACT (SHORT FORM) Councilman Gleckman: Mr, Fast, Public Service Director: Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger LOCATION: 1838 and 1842 Workman Avenue Review Engineer's report. Adopt resolution setting date of September 119 19679 for protest hearing on assessment. Question. Was this the last astizated cost that came before the councij;.,4bere we discussed giving the gentj,-pjan*6redit for 71 instead of 111? The $3166 was the last estimated cost in front of the council. Actual cost was less. - 3 - C.-C. 8-14-67 Page Four CITY CLERK'S REPORTS ® Continued PROJECT SP-61018 - Continued RESOLUTION NO, 3654 The Deputy City Clerk presented-, "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF ADOPTED THE ­CITY OF WEST COVINA, CONFIRMING 0 THE REPORT OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF STREETS RELATIVE TO THE COST OF WORK DONE'PURSUANT'TO RESOLUTION -NO, 3570 AT 1838 and 1842 WORKMAN AVENUE." Mayor Krieger: Hearing no objection,.waive. further reading of the body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum 9 that . the Council adopt said resolution. Motion carried on. roll call as follows*, AYES: Councilman Gillum, Gleckman., Snyder,, Mayor.1rieger NOES; :None ABSENTd- Councilman Nichols Councilman Gillum-, Mr. Aiassa - it appears that on this corner of Workman and Azusa, we are going to run into the same problem of tearing out the blacktop because the water is coming down,,,.. Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: Until the'State provides some kind of lateral storm drain,, it will do that. • We have constructed a wider concrete apron. PROJECT SP-68003 APPROVE PLANS and SPECIFICATIONS - STREET IMPROVEMENTS LOCATION: Vincent Avenue and Center Street. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the City Council approve plans and specifications fox, City Project SP-68003 and authorize the City Engineer to call for bids. (To questions asked by Councilman Gillum regarding the traffic flow, both Mr. Past and Mr. Zimmerman explained what was being done, and used the maps in so doing.) Councilman Gleckman.o I have a question on the report, Mr. Aiassa. You show the estimated cost of this project as 09,400 and the funding is $la,000-and I am just curious to know where the rest of the money is going? Mr. Past, Public Service Directors • nothing has been set on that, we would like to do. Mayor Krieger: Mr, Fast,, Public Service Director., The limits of the project are greater than this. We anticipated hopefully doii�k some more work to the South, but as yet This is only a portion of the total work The maximum property owner participation though will be a thousand dollars? Yes. Mayor Krieger: But if we go on with further improvements will that be the maximum? - 4 - r 0. C. 8-14-67 Page Five CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - Continued PROTECT SP®68003 - Continued Mr. Fast* It will be a different property owner Public Service Director in any event, Mr. Mayor; Mayor Krieger* All in favor of the motion, a motion carried, (All present were in favor.) PRESENTATION OF RESOLUTIONS AND CERTIFICATES TO GENERAL PLAN COMMITTEE Mayor Krieger: We have certificates of commendation for presentation to the citizens of the community who served on the General Plan Blue Ribbon Committee. This to the seventh Blue Ribbon Committee that has now completed its work and submitted its report and the last committee of the initial committees formed of the Blue Ribbon Committees, to complete its work. The council received,some meetings ago, a voluminous report from this particular Blue Ribbon Committee and the Planning Commission has already held a joint meeting with the co-chairmen and the subcommittee chairmen of this General Plan Blue Ribbon Committee, and I know I speak for the Council, when I compliment the members of this Committee on the thoroughness of their work. This report, that was - submitted, was monumental and I am sure will be instrumental in the decisions and updating of the General Plan. Dr. Snyder, served as the council liaison and he may have some comment tomake in that regard. • Councilman Snyder: My only comment is to say that the Committee functioned very well and I am pleased with the report. However, their job is not finished with the turning in of the report, as they know. The development of the General Plan goes through hearings on the Planning Commission and the Council, and if they believe in what they came up with in their report, then they should appear at those hearings ana help in the development of the General Plan by partioipating, and I am sure they will. (Mayor Krieger then read the Certificate, called out the names of the members and presented each present with the Certificate of Commendation. He then read the Resolution entirely, stating Resolution Numbers 3629 and 3630 were identipal, other than the name change and were to be presented to the Co-chairmen m Mr. Kenneth Chappel and Dr. William McColl.) Mayor Krieger: Mr. Chappel, accepted the co -chairmanship of this General Plan Committee while President of the West Covina Unified School District Board of Education, he is a past recipient of the Citizen of the Year Award of West Covina, and was yet able to find time in his very busy schedule to accept this co -chairmanship. I present this with great appreciation, Mr. Chappel. (Dr. M00011 was unable to attend to receive his Resolution of Commendation.) SCHEDULED MATTERS HEARINGS VARIANCE NO. 595 LOOATION: 126 South Glendora Avenue WILLIAM SULLIVAN Raque.s.t....for non -.conforming identification .signs. in. -Zone C41 denied byy Planning. Commission Resolution No. 1918. A pealed by applicant on September 14, 1966. Held over from April 10, 1967,pwith hearing held open. 5 0 C. Co 8-14-67 HF~ARINGS - Continued Meyor Krieger,* Mr. Aiassa, City Manager,* held ever until 9-11-67. opportunity to reevaluate Sign Ordinance. When this old Sign Ordinance and the the new Variance, Page Six Mr. Aiassa...... The staff has discussed this with Mr. Sullivan, and he is here this evening with the possibility of having this The purpose is that the staff will have an Variance No. 595 in relationship to the new Variance was.granted it was made with the difference in the request is a lot less ,lii Mayor Krieger,* Mr. Sullivan, the staff recommendation on this matter is to hold over until 9-11-67 with the hearing held open. Day. you concur in that request? Mr; Sullivan,*. Yes, I do. Councilman.Snyder`: I am not quite clear as to the purpose of holding over m m to see if in effect it doesn't comply under the new ordinance? Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: Mr. Sullivan's store, as you know, has a different layout than many of the grocery stores. He has a limited front window that he can display signs internally. He has been exhibiting the signs on the outside and they are facing the parking lot. According to our old ordinance this was a violation to the Sign Ordinance, under the new ordinance we are providing that he can put these signs under a protected glass frame, but he needs a variance anyway because he does not have sufficient frontage to give him the amount of signs he thinks are necessary. The staff feels by reviewing his needs and the average that most of the grocery stores have, we might find an equitable solution that will satisfy Mr. Sullivan and,also be satisfactory to the city staff and the City, Motion -by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gleckman, and carried, that this matter be held over until the Council meeting of September 11, 1967 with the hearing held open at the hour of 8 p.m. SOUTHERLY ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO. 205 PROTEST HEARING Hearirg of protests or objections set for August 14, 19679 by Resolution No. 3604 adopted June 26 1967. (Refer to City Attorney°s agenda for resol:ution.and ordinance Mayor Krieger.- Mr. City Attorney, did you have something on: the procedure?. Mr. Williams, City Attorney,* I think I should probably report to the council, that first I have a resolution •if pu find there is no protest by the only property owner involved. Mrs. White is here in the audience and I have discus.se.d this matter with her attorney and have reed the ordinance to him. I have given Mrs. White a copy and she may speak for herself. There is something about this that is peculiar. You may recall the approval of the Los Angeles County Formation Commission was based on a condition that this annexation shall not be completed until Annexation 195 is completed. This condition the owners also went contained in the Ordinance itself. They would like to go ahead, close the hearing and pass the Ordinance. Therefore, this Ordinance contains an unusual section, by unusual I mean we don't find it in any previous annexation ordinance. Section I of this Ord:inance,a which is the seetien thst'states the annexation shall be effective when and only when West Covina°s ® 6 C. 8-14-67 Page Seven ,.jHEARINGS - Continued AEMMTION DISTRICT 20 Southerly Annexation 195 is completed and is effected. There is also a slight change in Section III which directs the City Clerk to make certain filings - filing with the Secretary of State must be made under state -law and it says the City Clerk shall immediately file. The state law also provides that the annexation is not effective until an affidavit of compliance has been filed with the court under Section 34080 under the 'Government Code. This provides, this Ordinance, that while the filing with the Secretary of State may take place the filing with the county recorder shall not take place until 195 has been completed. Therefore, the approval of this can go forward tonight, as 1 understand it, with the approval of the owners on these conditions which are their conditions, and though approved the annexation will be effective only when 195 is approved. Mayor Krieger-, MaDs. Preston, Deputy City Mrs. Preston, do you have the affidavits of publication and mailing? Clerk.- Yes. It was published in the West Covina Tribune on July 13th and the LaPuente Journal on July 12 and 19th. The owner was notified on July -18tho 1967. Mayor Krieger Do you have the A", 1 f .,� 'lijd mw)u- of publication? Mrs. Preston, Deputy City 0 Clerk: Yes, I do. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that they be received and filed. mayor Krieger; Mrs.. Preston, have you received any written protests? Mrs. Preston, Deputy City Clerks No,, I have not. Mayor Krieger.- Is there anyone in the audience who wishes to file a written protest to this proposed annexation. None. Mayor Krieger.- Is there anyone present this evening who desires to address the council on the proposed annexation either in favor of, or opposed to? IN FAVOR Mrs. Joan White, Secretary Garnier Enterprises, Inc, I have discussed the Ordinance and the Resolution with Mr. Williams and it is in order as it was discussed with the attorneys this morning and we are in favor of the annexation of this property if 195 is Dassed. Mayor Krieger: Thank you. Anyone else present this evening desiring to address the council on this particular matter? (None) Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the hearing be closed. 7 C 0, Oo 8-14-67 HEARINGS - Continued ANNEXATION 205 RESOLUTION NO,, 3655 Mayor Krieger-0 Page Eight The City Attorney presentedo "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITE' OF WEST COVINA9 FINDING AND DECLARING THAT .A MAJORITY PROTEST HAS NOT BEEN MADE AGAINST SOUTHERLY ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO. 205," Hearing no objection, waive further reading wf the body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Gleckman, and carried, that the resolution be adopted. Motion carried on roll call as fcl,l,ows 8 A�IM ,, O�ywuTicilmen Gillum, Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger 14NOBS n None ABSENT-0 Councilman Nichols ORDINANCE INTRODUCED The City Attorney presented. "IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE ANNEXATION TO, INCORPORATIID IN AND DING A PART OF SAID CITY OF WEST GOVINA, OONTINGENT UPON ANNEXATION, CERTAIN UNINHABITED'TERPITORY OUTSIDE OF THE SAID CITY AND CONTIGUOUS THEREOF, KNOWN AS SOUTHERLY ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO. 20509a Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of said Ordinance. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said Ordinance be introduced, :PLAITNTI NG COMMISSION REVIEW OF PUNNING COMMISSION ACTION OF AUGUST 2, 1967 o So presented by Mr, Menard (Mayor Krieger inquired of the Deputy City Clark if an appeal had been filed. by Sky Slide and she advised it had not. The Mayor then asked if the Council, desired to take any further action on this matter and they li%di.cated none was desired. RESOLUTION OF COMMENDATION FOR MILTON BREIVOGEL Mr. Menard read Planning Commission resolution No. 1975 covering . commendation for Milton Breivogela Motion by Councilman.Snyder, seconded by. Councilman Gleckman, and carried, that the City Council, direct that a: resolution be drafted commending Milton Breivogel, RECREATION & PARES COMMISSION REVIEW RECREATION & PARKS COMMISSION ACTION OF ,lUly 25, 1967. Mayor Krieger-, We have a summary of the action 'taken on July 259 19670 0. C. 8-14-67 Page Nine 0 0 RECREATION & PARKS COMMISSION - Continued Mr, Aiassa, City Manager: There is one item I would like to call attention to, and that is they are _,_pJxanging the time of their meeting from 8 P.M*, to 7.030 P.M., same night ® fourth Tuesday of each month. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the action of the Recreation & Parks Commission dated July 25, 1967, be received and filed. PERSONNEL BOARD RECOMMENDATION REGARDING ACTING TEMPORARY POSITIONS Mr, Aiassa,'City Manager: This is a recommendation from the staff and the Personnel Board. We have a letter on file from.the Personnel Board signed by Mr. Sanborn. Motion was made by Mr-. Zoelle,, seconded by Mr. Tice and carried, recommending,toCouncil that Resolution No. 1277 be amended chaAging the number of authorized positions of firemen from 31 to 28 and fire engineers from 12 to 15. Mayor Krieger: Is this what we sent back to them? (Answer: Yes.) Is there any discussion on the staff report? RESOLUTION NO. 3656 The City Attorney presented: oVA RESOLUTION OF THE` CITY COUNCIL OF TZE ADOPTED CITY OF WEST 0OVINA9 AMENDING CERTAIN PROVISIONS 2 OF RESOLUTION. NO. 1277 RELATING TO AUTHORIZED POSITIONS'. -AND SALARIES AND.ESTABLISHING CLASS: SPECIFICATIONS OF ALL POSITIONS.19 Mr, Williams, City Attorney,* The changes made by this,Resolution are those Mr. Aiassa mentioned, changing the number of firemen positions from 31 to,28 and fire engineers from 12 to 15, thereby eliminating the necessity of acting temporary positions. Mayor Krieger-, Hearing no objection, waive further reading of the body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the city council adopt said resolution. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES- Councilmen Gillum, NOES: None ABSENT: Councilman Nichols HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION None. GENERAL MATTERS ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Gleckman, Snyder, `Mayor Krieger ® 9 - C. C. 8-14-67 Page Ten GENERAL MATTERS - Continued WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS 1. Communication from Yellow Cab Co. Regarding Taxi Rate Increase • Mr, Aiassa, City Manager-, The recommendation is that this matter be referred. to staff for a report for the. meeting of 9-11-67. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that this matter be referred to staff for a report on 9-11-67. 2. Letter from Chairman of West Covina Parade Committee Regarding City sponsorship for 1968 Mr, Aiassa, City Manager-, I would like this matter referred to staff, because they are makirq specific requirements on usage of certain streets. The report will be back on 9-11-67. Motion by Councilman Gleckman., seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that this matter be referred back to staff for a report for the meeting of 9-11-67. 3. Letter from Rick's Desert Enterprises Regarding Business License Charges Mr. Aiassa, City Manager-, This I would also like to hwre referred `to the staff and to the Council Business License Committee, due back 9-11-67. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Gleckman, and carried, that this be referred back to staff with a report due on 9-11-67. CITY ATTORNEY Mayor Krieger: Items 10 and 11 have both been acted upon. Item 12, please. ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION - REVISING SIGN ORDINANCE (AMENDMENT NO. 81) Mr- Williams, City Attorney: As you will notice this is somewhat lengthy and it is taken from the Planning Commission's resolution including the supplemental resolution 1966, which -was a long one, recommending the time for abatement be 6 months from the date of the Ordinance, which we have computed the effective date to be the 28th of S6ptemberq therefore the effective date for abatement will be the 28th of March. As directed, the Planning Director and 1, made a few amendments to clarify the definitions in this Ordinance. There is only one thing I would like to comment on because we did not do it. At the meeting of the City Council on the 31st, when I was not present, there was an action that indicated a desire to have included in this Ordinance some sort of state- ment that 60 days after the building permit is issued for a sign, the owner of the premises sign a statement of consent. Now with all due respect to the City Council, I don't think this makes any sense at all and if it does it doesn't belong in the zoning ordinance but in the building code or structural signs code. Once the building permit is issued and the sign is up to get some sort of statement signed by the owner is absolutely meaningless, because there isn't anything that follows whether - 10 - C, C 8-14-67 Page Eleven SIGN QRDINANCE (AMENDMENT NO. 81) Continued he signs it or doesn't sign it, there is nothing that provides any penalty whether he does or doesn't sign it. This does provide that the owner must take the sign down 60 days after the premises are abandoned and if it is not, I would submit to you that anybody that rents to a commercial tenant knows perfectly well that the sign has to come down, • so that provision is not in this Ordinance. If you want it in, it will have to be ®zplained more fully what you do want and 1-think it should be.put somewhere other than in the zoning.ordinance. Mayor Krieger: Let's clarify this. You were not present on the 31st, but the council discussion warn°t within 60 days after something took place, the council discussion was,, as I remember it, on toe application for the sign itself, Mr. Williams, city Attorney: That 1s not what the minutes say, Mr. Mayor, Mayor Kriegers Well perhaps somebody could direct me to that portion of the minutes that says otherwise. Councilman Snyder: As I recall the motion was made to put the 60 days in, in case the. owner was not in town and. this would give him time to sign it, Mayor Krieger: The whole discussion from the very inception evolved upon the -owners •signature upon the application in the first instance. There was -some discussion as to geographical difficulties if the man wasn't present and that eras ,going to be a problem - that would have to be worked out between the tenant and the owner and not the problem of the City Council. Mr, Williams, City Attorneys May I suggest this evig t-to be in the portion of our code where the, building ortion� I am not trying to indiaateiopposition, is reuired9:not in the zoning pp y g only it should not be iA the zoning ordinance, Mayor Kriegers Mr, Menard, is there comet htng in the minutes f the o unoil that Buz $to we a are talking. aoug something els'�� Mrs Menard, Planning Directors Pas 7 of the council Minutes of July 100 19 7, at the very bottom of the pagep motion by Counoilman Nichols reads,."and that a requirement bs .included that the legal owner.Cf the premises u on. -which the.. sign is 'to be coated be requir & o become a arty by signature to the .applioation or .the sign within 0 days of As date of Initial. issue_ of.. thepermit to, erect tha signol Mayor Kriegers But the council met on this subject matter after the July both meeting and we had further discussion on this. Now why . was the July 10th held to be the determining factor's Mr, Xenard, Planning Directors The motion to approve the sign ordinance as submitted by the Planning Oommission was on July 10, 19670,,,0 Mayor Kriegers But on July 17th the oounoil discussed the sign ordinanoe, , , , Oouncilman Gleokmans And not only that, they discussed this particular situation on Page 11 of 7-17. 1 1 C, Co 8-14-67 Wage Twelve SIGN ORDINANCE QAMEND1EITT ''NO, _81) Continued Mayor Krieger, In any event let's move on. If I understand the council°s wishes on this it was to get the signature of the owner on the application. Is that correct? (Answers Correct,) Mr, Williams, •your suggestion having to do with that procedure is that it be in some other portion of the Municipal Code rather than the Sign Ordinance? Mr, Williams, City Attorneys I would suggest that this be introduced because there is nothing in here that precludes this type of statement, but unless you indicate some result that follows from the failure ,at- -lack of this signature, I think the whole tieingis a little bit nebulous. I think that it should be discussed further, and placed either in the structural sign ordinance or in the building code, I think that ite omission from this Ordinance in no way prejudices what the council may want. But so far as any minutes I have seen or dis- cussed with me, I think the subject is not sufficiently covered so the result or failure is indicated, I don't know what the signature proves. So he signs it o what does that means Mayor Kriegero There is obviously a breakdown of communication somewhere along the line. The action of the council is along the lines that has been indicated. Let's discuss what we have before us, Councilman Snyder° Well the motion says "within 60 days" this is on Page 16 of the minutes of. July 17th A you had left for another meeting, Mr, Williams, City attorneys Well I don't think that makes any sense, but I would like to discuss it with you. I don't think it h. anything to do with this Ordinance, Councilman Gillum: You do understand what we are trying to accomplish? Mr, Willieas, City Attorney. I think I do, You want the owner to know tha responsibility he -hasregarding. the sign It seems to me this can be accomplished in a much different and easier way, 0nce the lease is signed the man is committed anyway, Mayor Krieger. The only thing I would comment on d this is a personal observation - after pouring through this for an hour and a half trying to find the statement I would have appreciated a note on it saying o 8PI left it out." ....... 0. Mr, Williams yo.0 .made some point of the definition .between. Identifying and .Advertising signs that they should be distinguishable definitions. I am still somewhat at a le'se as: the distinguishing definitions. Mro,Williams, City.Attorney-, Mr,.Menard and I orke here over and agreed as they have 'keen furnished to you. Identifying sign is only the name of the business,, or it could be the type. Advertising sign can includethe products, not only the name but in addition thereto the products -or service, etc,, that are available on the premises. It is the major sign. The other is _merely a sign in thedoorwaythat says either "Jones Shoe Repair" or "Shoe Repairs", Mayor Krieger-, Now - A°Jones Shoe Re�a air^"" is that identifying.or adver° icing sign? Mr, Williams, City Attorney-, I ou d b. i l.uded in the dvertising s n.D apt. It s all that cou d be used in the identifying sign. G 12 O C . C O 8-14-67 Page Thirteen SIGN ORDINANCE ,(AMENDMENT NO. 811 Continued Councilman Gil.lumo I still am not sure what determines advertising..and'what.determines identifying , isMr. Williams, City Attorney- I am willing to write it however you tell me o I think that this is sufficiently clear in my own .opinion. Maybe Mr. Menard has a different opinion. Mr. Manard, Planning Directors The only comment I could think of and what was in our minds when we originally wrote this, using his terminology "Pones Shoe Repair" would be on the sign, it would identify the shoe repair, but it would also tell exactly what kind of shoes were for sale on the advertis*ing sign. The advertising sign covering the full range of advertising, The sign on the side or rear of the business to tell someone in the parking lot that this is a particular kind of a facility. Mayor Krieger, We belabored this thing, because Mr. Williams, you felt there was some substance between the terms of identifying and advertising signs. Mr. Williams, City Attorneys As it was formerly written, I did. Mayor Kriegers Well, advertising sign as it is now written says "a sign that portrays through the use of words, letters or symbols, the name of any business conducted....." and an identifying sign •Ova sign that portrays through the use of words, letters or symbols, the nAme of the business conducted......" Mr. Williams, City Attorneys In that respect the two may contain the same thing, there is some overlapping.. The identifying sign can not contain anything but that and.the advertising sign may. Mayor Krieger: Is there any significance in the word "ty?e" in the advertising sign that.We don t find in the identifying sign? Mr. Williams, City Attorneys Not particularly. Mayor Krieger*, Was there some reason why the word "type" was left out of the definition of advertising signs? Mr, Williams, City Attorney: No, not that I know of. Mayor Krieger: Well to make i sure that the identifying sign was less inclusive would it not be definition of the advertising preferable to put the word "type" in the sign?. Mr. Williams, City Attorney: Possibly so. I don°t personally think • this is a matter of any significance indicate products and services, since in the advertising sign they could however, if you would Lather have it there. Mayor Krieger: An further council discussion on the substance of the proposed wording? Councilman Snyder: I made a motion on Page 16 that the matter Of time -and temperature signs and signs of Ordinance until a technique was developedcfort tting under special use be held out of this permit. Was that done? p puutti 4 13 - Co Co 8- 14-67 Page Fourteen SIGN,ORDINANOE (AMENDMENT NO. 81) Continued_ Mayor Krieger: It was supposed to go back to the Planning Commission for study, review and. a report, Mr. Williams, City -Attorney: This obviously is likely to be amended further but you have the foundation here, Councilman Gillum: Mr. Williams, what concerns me, this item that is doming up next before use The other night we -.-got into a discussion of what was advertising:and what was identification and we couldn't resolve it then and I can't see where there is any difference now between the two. Can you? Councilman Gleckman: Sure. ) Councilman Gillumo, Between advertising and identification? Councilman Gleckman-, Sure, Mayor Krieger: All except for the word "type" this is the word that bothers me in the definitions because the word "type" does not appear in the definition of advertising signs. I would think -if we put the word "type" in advertising signs then there is no possible definition of identifying sign is more inclusive than advertising sign and is always less inclusive. It was a matter of substance I assumed from the comments you made Mr. Williams and that is how we got into this forest. Mr. Williams, City Attorney: I have no objection to adding the words to advertising signs "the type or name" - I can see your point, since ,this- is the broader sign. We can.make this amendment if you like. I will make it by ink now, Mayor Krieger: On the second line after the comma, - 11symbols or type" ® does this meet with the approval of the councilmen? C o u=ilmaa . Gillum.*-,- _ Councilman. Gleckmant Councilman Snyder: Mayor Krieger. - Councilman Snyder: Mayor Krieger: Mr. Williams, City Attorneyi, Yes. If it satisfies my two colleagueso I am going to vote against the Ordinance anyway. Will it be less or more palatable with the change? More, palatable.. You will have a lesser objectiono I have inserted the words "the type or name" in advertising sign. • ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE 07THE '011TY' VWNCILOF''THE CITY'OF WEST'COVINA, AMEND-ING'CERTAIN —SECTIONS OF THE ZONING CHAPTER OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO SIGNS." Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum,, and carried, waiving further reading of the body of the Ordinance. - 14 - C. C. 8-14-67 Page Fifteen SIGN ORDINANCE (AMENDMENT NOo 81) Continued Motion by Councilman Gleckman9 seconded by Councilman Gillum, that said Ordinance be introduced. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gleckmany • NOES* Councilman Snyder ABSENTO Councilman Nichols Mayor Kriegers Gillum, Mayor Krieger Now does the council wish to take specific steps with regard to the owner being on the application? Councilman Gleekmans Yes m Mr. Williams, what we are actually seeking is some type.of effective method where the owner of the property would be left with a sign if the place doing business was vacated and the sign was left on the building. Some method by which the sign would have to be removed. We felt by getting the signature of the landlord at the outset, when a sign permit was being sought, that contained within that sign permit would be the provision that if at anytime the type of business would change or the store would be vacated it would be the. re.sponsibility of the property owner and/or Mr.. Williams, City Attorneys I completely follow this line of thought and the provision for responsibility is in this Ordinance, but m and I will write it that way, but with all due respect to the council I think this is a perfectly asinine provision because the man leases the premises for commercial purposes and if he refuses to sign this building permit for the sign o where do we stand? What do we do? Councilman Gleckmans I am not asking your that Mr, Williams. I am saying this is what we are-att-empt ng to do,now if this isn't the way you think we should do it legally, what do you advise us to do in order to havb that provision in order to get the action taken care of once the building is vacated? Mr. Williams, City Attorneys, What ought to be done, in my opinion o I.don°t know how in the world we would do.it o that is when the lease is executed the landlord should be advised that when the teant puts up the sign, he, the Landlord is responsible to take it down, Once the lease is executed, I don't think it makes a bit of difference what you do - so you just tell me what you want, Councilman Gleckmans Well it makes a bit of.difiference, to the enforcement officer within the City if we have a particular sign on a vacated building, that we feel some action -should be taken --where would we go to..get some action done in order to regulate it? Mrs Williams, City Attorneys W611 I think I know where--ym-c an go I think you can go there -first, because everytime an owner refuses to. sign this • thing and there is no compulsion on him to do it, he just says P0I decline gentlemen., I am sorryB9 m the tenant is going to be in here asking for a variance from -t,Ais beeaase the owner won't time over you -are I thi nlr all, doing is inviting .lo evenings spending r this - rovision y .u.-ar-e going to write Now will write it, you juet tell me what you want to. say, Councilman Gleckmans Mr., W_illiams.9 if a sign falls off a building and hurts somebody on public property, whose reponsibility is it? m 15 m 8-14-67 Page Sixteen SIGN ORDINANCE 'AMENDMENT NO. 81) Continued Mr, Williams, City Attorneys, Normally the responsibility of the person, who put the sign there or on the person whose -legal responsibility it is to maintain the sign, depending on the circumstances. Standard Station ation - it may be the landlord; Thrifty Drug - it may be the tenant, I don't know. Wouncilman Snyder-. Mr. Williams, City Attorney-, Councilman Snyder-, Mr. Williams, City Attorney. - wiring.... Councilman Snyder: Councilman, l:., Can't we do this under an abatement procedure on vacated premises? About the same 'thing you have on every other provision of thee-ode, enforcement through failure to perform. Then that would be against the property owner. Sure, just. as you would; advise -anybody of any other provision of the building ordinance about plumbing or electrical Then we already have an abatement procedure? Mr. Williams, City Attorney-, You have made something about signs that is entirely different. You are saying that he must sign the permit and the part that is rather ridiculous is you are saying that he must sign after the permit is issued. What sense does that make? *Mayor Krieger. - Mr. Fast, Public Service Director. - Mayor Kriegero, Mr. Past, Public Service Directer.o On our building permit is the owner's signature required? Either a general contractor .or the owner in his own behalf may take out the building.. permit. The general contractor then is acting on his own .behalf? ...hat is correct. Mayor Krieger,, A general contractor is acting as the owners agent. We have that as a require- ment already.. A.. man enters a. lease with the te.nant and we -have this requirement:--and-,he. says - "l-am..mot-:-�aing to sign it, I am not going to have my agent sign it" ® so what does the tenant do then, come in and ask us for a variance on our requirement t4at the owner or his authorized agent sign it? Mr. Williams, City Attorney: That is what I am asking you? Mayor Krieger: Well we already have that on our books as far as building a building. • Mr. Williams, City Attorney: Mayor Krieger: Mr. Williams., City Attorney: That is precisely why I said I don't think you need any such requirement. You have' added the penalty if he doesn't remove it. We are not talking about removing it now, we are talking about installing itw I know... - 16 - C C , 8-14-67 Page Seventeen SIGN ORDINANCE (AMENDMENT NO. 81 ) Continued Councilman Snyder: 0 Mr, Williams, City Attorney: There is another point to this, in applying for a sign, the sign company can come in and get a permit, Only as an agent. Councilman Snyder: This is the usual custom, Mr. Williams, City Attorney: Well I just want you to tell ... me what you want. Mayor Krieger: I think it is a policy question and the more .contrbla we ha*e-. over this situation the more satisfied I will be with it. And if it turns out to be unworkable or unfeasible or something else, then we will take another look at it, Mr, Williams, City Attorney: If the council will tell me what they want I will write it. I think it should go in the place that requires a building permit. Councilman Snyder: I would think that the objections -Mr. Williams has raised are valid o you are going to cause a lot of difficulty between landlord and tenant. I believe this should be handled but perhaps the best way is a different abatement procedure for signs then we have for other things m a stepped up abatement procedure for signs if that is possible. By that I mean abandoned signs, Councilman Gillum: The sign belongs to somebody though, can we go in and remove a sign from private property? Councilman Snyder: That is the question m whether it can be done under 4 separate section of,, -the ordinance. Mrs Williams, City Attorney: We wouldn't go in and remove it. You have a provision that the tenant and/or the landlord shall remove it within 60 days. This is enforceable by penal provision.... Councilman Gleckman: Mr,, Williams, City Attorney: Mayor Krieger: Councilman Gillum: Now wait a minute. Are you saying that we do have such a clause? It is in this ordinances But it doesn't say `,tenant" it just talks about property owner of the land, On Page 12, Number 17, Councilman Snyder: Doesn't than take care of it, I don't see What good the signature is -going to do. Mayor Krieger: It is going to cause the owner to be aware of our sign ordinance, it is going to cause the owner to adhere to its Inception, that is what it is,,going to cause, Councilman Snyder: But it is not mandatory for him to let the tenant have a sign. He may not want to take that responsibility, 17 0- C 8_l4-6,r Page Eighteen SIGN aRDINA14CE (AMENDMENT NO. 81) ontinued Mwyor Krieger.a He may not want the responsibility to rent his premises.... Mr. Williams, City Attorney-, Reading from the minutes there wasn't anything that said the owner was going to be advised to remove it within 60 Ways, it Just said he. must co-sign the building permit. Councilman Gleckman.- Mr. Williams, the way this is written Number 17 ® can the city enforce this with the idea that the sign must be removed? At the end of 60 days if it is not removed what is the procedure? Mr. Williams, City Attorney: The procedure is that the owner of the land and if the owner of the improvements is separate from the land then the owners of the improvements also are oblig-ed within 60 days to remove the sign. If they don't they are in penal violation of this and the procedures are exactly the same as in other sections of your code.. You usually give themea warning first, if they -don't comply then you cite them- You don't tell them in advance what the law is before they enter town. Mayor Krieger: Is this a new section Mr. Williams? Mr, Williams, City Attorney-, As far as I know it is new. Isn't it Mr. Menard? Mr. Menard, Planning Director: this was added at the direction of the Planning Commission prior to presentation to the City Council. It is a new section. Wt is different than the existing, very definitely. Councilman Gleckmano, Mayor Krieger: Councilman Gleckmano, I think it should do the job,- I­ean°t think of another instance where t-hat­ wouldn't take care of it. Well it isn't in the context of the council discussion on this matter. No, but it is still in the Ordinance. Mayor Krieger: So was the language that came back from the Planning Commission on the proposed Ordinance and then we got into a discussion, we departed from that point. We knew that was in it, and we wanted to tighten it up a little bit more. Mr. Williams, City Attorney: Well that is why I deliberately pointed out to you that -1. .41d not write it .:in, be glad to do it. If you want it stated more clearly I will Notion by Councilman Snyder that the abatement section of the Sign Ordinance for abandonedsignsis adequate and the intent of the council for getting the landlord's signature is no longer necessary. Olayor Krieger.- -7 Is there a second to the motion? The motion fails for lack of a second. Councilman Gleckman: I agree with you, but I think it is totally unnecessary. If we don't introduce have just exactly what you said. any other type of legislation, well we - 18 - Co C. 8-14-67 Page Nineteen SIGN ORDINANCE (AMENDMENT NO. 81) Continued Councilman Snyder: Well then it is mandatory for him.... Mayor Krieger: Nothing is mandatory unless it is directed by the council and he has no direction at the present time. • Councilman Snydero, He does under this -motion - on Page 16 of Juiy 17th, Mr, Williams, City Attorney: The direction is to put it in this Ordinance, which I didn't do. Mayor Krieger-, This Ordinance stands introduced. Councilman Snyder: Part of the motion of 7-17-67 on Page 16 states "that the requirement be included that the legal owner of premises, etc, etc,,...,. 0 `-now the City Attorney is under instructions to include that at the present time, unless you relieve him of that instruction. Mayor Kriegero, And he has not included it -and the Ordinance has been introduced. So if there was some action the council wanted to take on it, it certainly would be an the introduction of the Ordinanoso Is there any further action desired by the council on this matter? Is there any desire to add anything to the Ordinance that is introduced? (Mr. Williams advised that:d us tm. the length of the Sign Ordinance, Item No. 13 - Parade Ordina;ice 11id not been distributed to the council. Mayor-K-rieger suggested that Item 13 be held over until after the recess In order that the council have a chance to see the proposed. Parade Ordinance.) ORDINANCE No. 1003 The City Attorney presented° "AX ORDINANCE OF THE -CITY COUNCIL OF THE ADOPTED CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING :THE "WEST 0071N ­xM_'CIPA1*__0O-DE 'So:.:`o" REZONN U AIR 'PREM-1-BBS (ZOXE AGE 4 :NO, 3ft B.D.O.9 Inc.) PLLCING IT ­IN THE 0-1 ZONE." Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of said Ordinance. Motion by Cot-mcilma4 Snyder, asco6ded by Councilman Gillum, that said Ord:LnaAce be ad -opted by the Council. Coune.%=man Gleckman-, I still don't think that this council has acted in .good faith by land 1qcking the property to the rear of this particuJXar property by granting this zoning and I think when we say that we are not concerned with that and 'that is up to the property owner that is doing the applying for this zoning., especially after the owner of the property comes before us and requests that we drop the request for zoning and we still insist on.giving him this zoning, I still feel that *is council is not acting in good judgment. Councilman Snyder., In the first place this council has not taken any action to landlock the property in the rear. There are forms of relief for that property in the rear. This came in as one application and in my own mind there is relief and for the better. 19 0. 0. 8-14-67 Page Twenty 0 ORDINANOE NO. 100� ® continued Councilman Gleckmanoo I have to disagree with you. The application requested certain zoning on t-he front part and certain zoning c�-the back part and I disagree with both zonings and at the same time the majority of this council sought to grant the zoning on the front part therefore landlooking the rear portion of the property by not granting him additional zoning, which I again state I was against zoning the property the way this particular ordinance reads and I am still against zoning the property and I further say that by landlocking this man's property to the rear and just granting him what he requested on the front, we are doing a disservice not only to the applicant but for the future applications where you have pJ.(5qes-of property requests for zoning.on different pieces of property under one owner. Cotincilman Sn-yder-o For the record, he is not landlocked. mayor Kxieger-, That its the only word I take objection to. He may be zone locked but he is not landlocked. When this man appeared before council he appeared under Oral Communications asking us to.&dvise him on his Precise Plan whereby he was advised he had no Precise Plan on this property, that 'the Unclassified Use Permit for the gasoline station was denied so that knocked, out the entire Precise Plan, you could not have part of a Precise Plan. The man was invited to discuss the matter if he was still confused with the Planning Director. Did he Mr. Menard? kr. Menard, Planning-Directoro, No. Mayor Krieger-,. You Jaaven.'t heard fr-om.,h:Lm _sinae. -O.al •--Gommunications two weeks .,ag.a.. As. I remember -he came in because of the block wall. - he should have gone out with the understanding, that there was no requirement for the block wall because there was :no Precise Plan on the property. And so now he sits there with zoning on part of what he came in for. He Just didn't get everything he asked for. Councilman Gleckman.- if this council feels it is .-in the best interests of this City to zone that property commercial the entire extent of that request, well then.1 will probably be in the minority again, but I J74st don't feel the entire property should be zoned commercial. Councilman Gillum - Are you objecting toghator going back 10,bbing landlocked? Councilman Gleckman� 0 Well I am. objecting to the entire .property being zoned commercial, therefore being zone looked, if that is the term. -the council would prefer t-o. use. In other words I didn't.4gree with -the whole parcel of the land being commercial in the first place and by the- council1granting that type of zoning you zone locked. the man purposely aad that I object to. Councilman Gill -am-, I disagree with that statement.' Councilman Gleckmanoo I have nothing further to add. Mayor Krieger, - Any, further discussion on the motion? Mrs. Preston .... Mation. carried o4a roll call as follows: .AYES: Councilmen.Gillum,,Pnyder, Mayor Krieger NOES Councilman GlaCkman ABSENT; Cauncilman Nichols (MAYOR KRIEGER DECLARED A 10 MINUTE RECESS TO 9015 P.M.) - 20 - Co Co 8-14-67 Page Twenty-one ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION - REGARDING PARADES (Item l3) Councilman Snyder: Under 3195 definitions, shouldn't 11c pavan°' be in there? Mayor Kriegero • Mr Aiassa, pending?. do we have any applications (Answers No-o) Maybe the council would like to hold this over until the nik-t meeting - August 28th. Gouncilman Snyder-, As a matter of discussion, I might point out that the matter of extra police' the Furth page.0 protection is taken case of under 8 on Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Gleckman that the council, gold this over until the next regular scheduled meeting of R ust 2 , 1967. Councilman Gillum-, I have a question. Mr. Williams.. Would it '�e leggy- for us to put in this ordinance something to .the effect that say thg parade was in progress and it got out of hand or violated one of the r visio no of the ordinance is it possible for the Police Chief or 86 b9h .to revatO4.a...e, Mr. Williams, City'Attorney-, It is already 12 there. (Read the portion pertaining to this question.). Further discussion on the. .mo on, to hold over? Motion carried, all in favor of holding over until August �8th for a possible introduction. CITS. MM R C E A C E a CITIZENS ENGAGED IN ANTI®CRIME EFFORT STAFF REPORT, Mayor Krieger-, Is there anythingthe staff wishes to add to the report that was. delivered to the council on this. matter? Mr. Aiessa, City Zanagero I don't have anything to add, nor does Chief Sill. Councilman Snyder-, The report was well done and.I.have no quarrel with this type of educational program, however, the report doesn°t answer the one question paramount in most peoples minds and that is how much authority and exactly what do block area members do? It doesn't really say. Chief Allen Sill. p In answer to your question, if I mad' draw W.C.P.-D. an analogy o this is not much different than a service group appointing one of its members a chairman of a committee. He has no real authority but has a lot • of'work to do. This is basically what the area representative under this plan will have o no authority but a lot of work. Ma,yur Krieger_-, He doesn't lose .any rights he has to make a citizens arrest? Chief Sill-0 Let's hope not. Councilman. Gillum-, First of all let me commend you on the report -,It is very well. done. If 0 21 0 Ce Co 8-14-67 Page Twenty-two C B A C E- Continued accepted and put in force, when these people approach the Police Department and say "we would like to help you" m as. I think we all realize there are people that would take advantage of something of this type and misuse the privilege of serving the Police Department .d I am wondering what procedure you would have to screen these people or remove someone if he did get into this type of program, What I am concerned about is if you get -'someone that says he is willing to help and then he calls and says my neighbor left his trash cans out,and continually goes on with similar things to become a neighborhood busybody, Chief Sillo We will have a screening process as we now do with the Block Parents under the P.T.A. program that now exists in 3 schools in West Covina. We certainly would not want someone in a position like this that is required to register as a sex offAnder, we,,weuld not like ex -felons represented since. it would cause'some embarrassment to the City as well as the Police Department, We would have to take certain stands along -this line. As to a person being a busybody, they can do this now -and do,; There are a number of people in the community who make it a practice on calling the Police Department reporting on their neighbors, etc. We answer the calls and we deal with them as it deems fit at that particular time. I don't anticipate that.people, merely because they have been appointed to the position of area representative will get the idea that they have anymore authority than their neighbor. We will react to their call the same as we will to their neighbor^ and no more. Councilman Gillum: This is one of the concerns that people • have directed to. me. I have heard some people speak very strongly on this point. I feel as you do that these people that do-.6lunteer will be concerned citizens but the point was made that there are people in the community who would take advantage of .this. I have tried, to assure them that if this is accepted that we will have everything possible done to see that these people are not put in the position of block captain and in.fact to keep from having these people in this type of organization and should it happen if they did that it could be handled, Chief Sill,-. We anticipate the use of the area representative will. be merely to act as a person who will get the people in their particular area -to a. meeting.at the particular time. You will.notice.-in this report there is much reference to the City of Monterey Park and they have not encountered this problem of which you speak. Their area representatives act to gather people together and disseminate information and this is solely the nature of this particular position,. Councilman Snyder- Do you feel that the two policemen who will work the community relations - do you feel the area representatives are essential to -your program or could you institute it without area. repraaent.atives? Chief S ill o would react more quickly to and saying we would like to a meeting where we will be how to present_ thefts, etc, Couucilman Snyder-. It would be possible but I don°t think we would _get the cooperation of these peoplein the various areas. I.think they one of their neighbors knocking on the door have you come down to El Dorado School to attend shown a film by the Police Department and told know sometimes that a neighbor to be on this type of approach -also, This is one place where Mr. Gillum mom. agree with me ® if you have ever worked as precilat worker in politics, you will neighbor approach is resented and it may 22 Ca Co 8-14-67 Page Twenty-three CEACE- Continued Councilman Gillum-, I know what you are saying but I think we are talking about two different things here. The way is report is written we •are talctng about a nonpartisan deal and I don't think there are strong feelings one way or the other. I certainly contend that things of this type . person to person center of people influence are the types that can convey this information to the average citizen. This is one of the areas that I think very highly of in using people as a center of influence within their own area, to .gather people together and get this information out to them. I run Into.the same problem you spear of Dr. Snyder, in precinct work anal sometimes it is very difficult, but I think we are talking.of two different things. Councilman Snyder-, My concern is not with the program but with the use of the areachairmen and I personally think this is fraught with problems and danger. I would like to see the program, if it is augmented, put through community relations officers instead of area chairmen or dealing with established groups like the P.T.A., Rotary, etc., rather than through appointed area chairmen, Mayor Krieger-, I would like to remind the council that we originally got this in a fairly short memorandum from the Police Chief, we held it over for an adjourned meeting., the staff was directed to provide us with fuller information having to do with this proposal. We have now received quite a, lengthy report. We were going to decide whether theme was enough substance in this rcgram to seriously consider it ana also discuss. whether or not, asHung the answer o the first question was in the • affirmative, whether or not to schedule a public hearing on this matter so people in the community would have the opportunity to appear before the.council to present whatever views or opinions they had. I . would ccmmentt..,..myself, that I think there is enough substance in the program to de -serve our consideration of it without indicating .in what aspects we s.hauLd cen id,er it or how it would be impl.emcented.. I just tbJ-uk it is of agrious ono h import, I think the rablem. is indis utabl,�e and the tuestion, is whoa are tam possible so Ju ns.. The C M s su gesteed and he staff has suggested a approach w ich may help to amce iora a the situation in West Covina. I think the approach as suggested is deserving 92ough of our consideration that it ought to be gone into. The answer in the first question is yes, and the answer to the second question, I think, shos.ld also be yes. I. think we should schedule -this matter for a pub is hearing and allow people to come in and present their views.. It has obviously stirred up a great deal of interest in the community. I don't want anyone to feel precluded from presenting their views on the 910Je0t matter, I think the council, should take these views into consideration the same as we take these reports into consideration. At. least have the benefit of weighing the various considerations. Council, Snyder-, You are talking about -a hearing on the entire subject matter or amly on whether there should be area. chairman?. Councilman Gil,lu m,,- I think you can only consider the total, proposals Dr. Snyder. •Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Oouncilma,n Gillum, that this. matter be set for a public hearing at the adjourned regular meeting of the City Council of September 18, 1967, at 8 p.m. Councilman Gleckman-, My only comment would be that I think it is a good idea to schedule it. The report and further information received from the Chief - I too, want to compliment him on it amdeay it ifht a ything like I read in the newspaper. Mayor Kriegers. Is there further discussion on the motion to hold this matter to September 18tha Nearing no objection, motion carried. o23- C, C, 8-14-67 Page Twenty-four 9 r1 LJ C E A C E o Continued Councilman Snyder-. Row many books do you have available Mr, Aias_s.al I have read my book and I would bewilling to leave it here at City Hall - those people wishing to appear it might be helpful if they would read it., Chief Silloo There have been some compliments on this report and I would like to give credit where it is due - Captain Ryan compiled this report, (Mr. Aiassa said he would have a limited supply of the reports at City Mall and would arrange to Piave them checked out to those wanting to read the report.) POLIOE' OFFICERS' FIRST AID TRAINING STAFF REPORT Mayor Krieger- We have a report dated August 10, 1967, anything to add Mr, .Aiassa?. Mr, Aiassa, City Managers There is a recommendation by the staff in this matter and --as the council knows thy: full report is attached, .We would like to have the council accept the recommendation that we make all the police offioers at -least adze to the Standard Card and also there is legislation passed that requires the Standard Card, and I have one other suggestion tha.t'we have the Sergeants and Lieutenants go in for the Advanced Card, Mayor Krieger-. Dr, Snyder any comments you care to make? Councilman Snyder-, The Sergeants and Lieutenants are not usually in the field? Mr, Aiassa, City Managers The sergeants are in the field and also the lieutenants, 0ouncilma,n Snyder- Then I go along with it. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, that the memorandum of August 10, 19679 dealing with First laid :Surveys be adopted, with the. -addition that anyone holding the rank of Sergeant and above be required to hold the Advanced First Aid. Card., 0'o.i-gym+ Snyder-, Would this motion state that the . additional training would be at Ckty expense-? Councilman Gleckman- Yes, I would amend my **tion to so read. Motion seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried. CAR WASH RID AWARD Mayor Kriegers We have the rep ort that has been cleared with the City Attorney, T understand, Mr, Aiassa, City Managers Yes ® and we do have a recommendation that we give the two parties o Mike Taylor Car Wash and the West Covina Car Wash, six months apiece at a flat rate of 75¢ per car, Councilman Gleckman: In other words ou are month to month basis and each cwill havehangingh6 months, 24 C. C. 8-14-67. Page Twenty-five CAR WASH -BID AWARD - Continued. Mr. Aiassa, City Manager-, Right. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the recommendation of the olty staff dated July 28, 1967, regarding the Car Wash be awarded to Mike Taylor Car Wash and West Covina Car Wash, each having the car wash services to be rendered 6 months at a time at the rate of 75¢ per car. Motion carried on roll call as follows-, AYES- Councilmen Gillum,. Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOBS0 None ABSENT-, Councilman Nichols WATER SYSTEMS o HEARINGS BEFORE PUC PROPOSAL BY CONSULTANT Mr. Massa., City Manager - Mr. Mayor, when we did the last survey the Suburban Water Company asked for a water increase, we spent approximately 01500. I have submitted to,you a possible contract and I would like to recommend to the council that we allow the City Manager to negotiate a contract with Ken Mullen to review the proposed rates, 1Q with Suburban Water Company with regard to what they are asking, and also to give us A comparison of the West Covina Walnut Water Company versus the Suburban Water Company. There is a meeting on Wednesday of the PUC and I would limit this contract not to exceed $1000 and I will only allow him to attend conferences or meetings at my call. This would put him on a ptrictly restricted level. I.would limit the scope of his analysis and •his report and I would assure the council that it will not exceed $1000. and- it might be a lot less. Council: : Snyder o Since Mr. Montgomery did the. last one.... , . Mr. Aiassa, City Manager-, This is the man that worked for Mr-. Montgomery, he has since retired. His firm is actually doing more of the actual physical installation of water and not the analysis of water companies. Ken..Mull.en has done three of them recently. Councilman Snyder,-, Mr,. Aiassa,, City Manager. - Councilman Gillum: Mr. Massa, City Manager: Co Rxuc ilman Gillum-, Mr. .Aiassa, City Manager-, 0 Councilman Gillum. - Mr. Aiassa, City Manager-, If his firm was still intact they w�uld have some initial information. Ken Mullen.has the information that Jim Montgomery's firm had and also more reosnt information in this area. What is this man going to tell us for $10002 First of all he is .going to review botl, proposals - Suburban Water and Walnut If my memory serves me correctly, PUC have already denied.... No they have not, they have tabled it for 60 days, Let me restate the pUC stated they felt in their opinion that Suburban could do a better job. No, they gave Suburban Water Company time to propose an alternate system. They would provide water at a rate they proposed to be cheaper. . - 25 - C . 0 e 8-14-67 WATER SYSTEMS - Continued Page Twenty-six Councilman Snyder-, I would like to answer your question about what they did last time and what I would°',expect them to do if I made this motion, 1-, review the testimoney and represent the City and possibly Si4ggesting testimony on our side and the peoples side in determining these rates, Councilman Gillum-, Which one are you talking about? Councilman. _Snyder-, Both of them. Mr. Atassa. g C ity Manager - Actually we are taking a ' n6.Utr'al-.gro$nd, Councilman Snyder-, Last time. they s:avad over-all, by hiring.. ust such a consulting engineer it saved he thousand people several dollars per year i,n their water rates. Councilman Gillum:, Do. you know.why they are requesting a rate increase? Councilman Snyder: I don't know why, but I think the burden is on them to prove they are entitled to a rate -increase. If he can't come up with a valid reason for objecting to the rate increase they are going to get it, but the burden of proof is up to them. Councilman Gillum-, The rate increase is because of the pump tax which was approved by the State. • Mr..Aiassag City Manager.- That is not all of it. Coun,cil,man Snyder- It still requires deeper analysis. Mayor Krieger- Do I misunderstand the .status -of the matter of the PUC-? I thought the next phase of their hearing was having to do with the 09,p.ital; required to furnish the water to the area affected. Is that a misunderstanding.? Mr, Aiassa, City Manager- Nog the last round they had was that it gave Suburban Water Company 60 days to this meeting on Wednesday the ro.po se a water supply for this ..are -a and 16th will be the day they will present testimany, Councilman Gillum.- Wasn't there also a provision to show adequate financing? Mr. .Massa, City Manager- Right, Councilman.. _G 1L1.um-. Wasn't that .}part of the main reason? Mn. Aiassa,, City Manager- No, Councilman Gillum; Well I am not going to debate the issue here, but I personally think it is a waste • of money. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gl,eckman, that the agreement addressed to Mr, Aiassa'from Ten Mullen dated July 26, 19679 be approved with the exception that the maximum will not exceed $1000. Mayor Krieger- Mr, Aiassa, the funds would come from what source? Mr, Aiassa, City Manager- I would like to transfer the funds from Mr,-Wi11iams account that has 45500, I City Attorney e s account, would like to transfer 41000 from the -26m o Co 8-14-67 Page Twenty-seven WATER SYSTEMS o Continued Gouncilman Gillum-. In the letter from this gentleman it ep.ells out definite duties he would perform for the 2000, If I and rstand you correctly, you have 'based.youurs on whenever you would need h m, • Mr, Aiassa, City Managers -This is the Scope of what he Mould do and I would restrict as to the time and a preliminary survey will give:use tOfpj Lean each of the phases, r1 L_J Councilman Gillum: My question is o what are we going to ask from him for the #1000? Mr, Aia,ssa, City Managers Two thingso First to evaluate the rate increase they have requested -you say it Is due to the pump tax. I reatd the application and I think there is a little more than that to it. I would like to assure the council that it is only that and we justify it. Also there is quite a little bit going on between the two proposals now and I am not an authority on water systems. I know a little of the details of rate factors and I also would prefer to have somebody in the business of doing this kind of work to assist me in making a recommendation to the council. We hired Fames Montgomery the first time and the rate increase asked was $7009000and they ended up with #65,000 and we r.- spent lees than #2000, Mayor Kriegero. Further discussion on the motion itself? Mrs. Preston, roll call,,. Motion carried on roll cell vote as fol,lowss ATES's Catmellmen 0leckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOBSO Councilman Gillum ABSENT.- 0suncil,man Nichols LETTM OF RESIGNATION FROM CITY CLERK Mayor xrlagars With the permission of the. council I am., going to deviate; from the agenda, to take out of order Item No, 199 as it has been called to attention that Our City Clerk, Mr, Flotten, is sitting in the back row, e have a letter from Mr, FlOtt9n o will you please step forward? Th council is saddened b the receipt of a Letter from you ted u�t 11, 19�7, indicating your deers to retire from the elected pesion oe City Clerk at the end of Auguet 1967. (Mayor Krieger read the letter.) Is there anything you wish to add to yob letter Mr, Flotten? Robert PlOttsn, City Clerks 00unOilmwi Snyder. - Robert .Flatten., City Clerks Councilman Oleckmans Mayor Kriagers. Robert Flotten, City Clerks NO, Mr, Mayer, that just about does it. Sort of wrote your own resolution.. I sure .did, WhA happens if we don't accept this? c;. DO you have any alternatives for that? X09 except that I hope you will appoint Lela Preston as acting City Clerk until next April. Motion by Councilman G�eSkn v seconded b� Councilman Snyder, and carried, that the council recei C t � 1eiter from lobert Flotten, City Clerk, with regret and that a resolutbn be drawn for the service Bob has given tag the City, and the language 66ntained therein will be left up to the staff, Mayor Krieger-, I know I speak for the council. when I state, Mr. FlOOtteng' that there is no motion that C o .G n 8-14-67 Page Twenty-eight n U RESIGNATION OP CITE' CL3RK Cont.inu�;l we ha,'Fa voted on in the affirmative than we do with greater reluctance t ,an we do with that particular motion, CONSULTANT REPORTS o UPDATIXG . a MUF ICIPAL WATER REPORT Mrs Aiassa,, City Managers I would like to know whether the council would like this report updated? It is have #259000 invested. now running a few years in time and we Councilman Snyders I would like it updated but I think the updating would be of little value at this time if we didn't implement it. Mayor Krieger-, I would like to make a comment that we are about to start our second phase of Blue Ribbon Cammitteess One of the Blue Ribbon Committees. that I want to discuss with the council is the creation of Municipal Services. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to defer action until we sense the attitude of the council having to do with the formation of this Blue Ribbon Committee which we will be discuss- ing as soon as we have a full council. Motions by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to. held action on the Municipal Water Report for the discussion of the formation of a Blue Ribbon Committee on Municipal Services. b) REGIONAL AUDITORIUM REPORT Mayor Krieger. I would like to make the same comment with respect to the Regional Auditorium It is --another Blue Ribbon Committee I old like to bring into existence, but want to discuss with the council ,to gat yol= attitude Oouncilman. Gil,l,ums I have a question, Mr, Aiassa - on the Regional Auditorium do you have anything in round figures and how old is this report? Mr. Aiassa, City Managers 3 years old - November of 1964. Councilman Gillum. I am curious as to the cost. Counoil,man Snyder-, I tend to think there is no need for a' Blue Ribbon -Committee on the Regional Auditorium., We have a reoommendatWn for a Regional Auditorium which I think needs upd6tingo There has been a Regional Blue, Ribbon.Committee in force before heeded by Mount Sac, on which Ilserved and it never got anywhere. Mayor Krieger.. We are talking about the City of West Covina • not Mount Sao. You can call it what you want, but it is a question of whether we we voted or not. Councilman. Snyder: My problem is that I don't know that a Blue Ribbon Committee is.going to add any impetus to this. It has been discussed and the fil,etus still lies with this council. There has never been any object.�ono . Councilman Gil,lums I don't think the previous council ever pursued it to that point where the public ever made known their feeling, one way or the others o 28 o C, C, 8-14-67 Page Twenty-nine REGIONAL AUDITORIUM ® Continued Councilman Snyder- I. talked about it all during my campaign and never met any objection. It was talked about during the last General Plan and nobody raised any objection. Mayor Krieger- But they haven't got the details on this like they did on City Hall, Swimming Pools and now on the Community Goals and General Plan Committees there was a number of statements of recommendation that there ought, to be a Regional. Auditorium but nobody has got the recommendations together or looked into it, or looked into the cost and whether or not the facility has any hopes of supporting itself:,. Page 1 of Stanford Institute Research report says o at that time the Carousel Theatre was -coming into West Covina and we ought to hold back a little bit and see what the impact of this type of facility would be in the community, Councilman Snyder - Don't get me wrong o I am for it, but, I am not sure that we need a B1ue'Ribbon Committee on it, Mayor Krieger,,, The real value of these have been that they have crystalized the subject matter. They brought it to the council, and it then has become a matter of current interest to the community and the council has then directed its attention to the matter and done something about it vu%-w y or the other. We have done that with each one of the other Blue Ribbon Committees and I think it is a perfect vehicle to get this thirg.into focus, • Councilman Snyder.- Alright, Councilman Gillum- I agree. Motion by Councilman Gieckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the Regional Auditorium report, as far as the updating is concerned be postponed and turned over to the Blue Ribbon Committee for study.. Mayor Krieger - This Bill Kopp - represents Stanford Institute - he is our current liaison? Mro..Aiassa, City Manager- We were scheduled to have a meeting but I understand he has had an operations Mayor Krieger- I understand that Dr,.Sntyder and Mr, Gillum :had the opportunity, with the City Manager, to inspect the Anaheim facility .and I wo.uld..e. to see _..instruction to the City Manager to _have _.him meet with Mr, Kop , and determine from him what would be involved to update that report or the use of,this Blue Ribbon Committee. So moved by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried. Councilman Snyder- I wanted to correct one misimpression that the committee I served on that was • Regional and they did not say that the Auditorium had to go at Mount Sac - they were talking about a Regional Auditorium and putting it there, but it was not mandatory. In fact that is what made it fall _apart m I insisted it come here., R IEW BOARD MINUTES Motion by Councilman�Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that they be received and filed. - 29 - G. C. 8-1.4w67 Pale Thirty TR A1 FI:C 00M21ITTEE MINUTES y 1067 Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the minutes 'of July 27, 1967, be received and filed, ;. CAAIEZOIT I11PRO yrE?LriENT- BETWEEN Ha-LLE1TBECK. A111D CITRUS • _�� COUNCIL APPROVAL TO PERMIT NEGOTIATIONS �FOR �RIGHT -OF-•WAY Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that the City Manager be authorized to negotiate the right--of-- way. FIRE DEPARTMENT SNORKEL a) SHIPMENT Mayor Krieger: We have a letter from Crown Fire Coach and. Chief Wetherbee is with us and the representative from Crown Coach, Is there a staff recommendation? Mir. Qiassa, City Manager: There is no staff recommendation„ because as far as we are concerned we are adhering to the bid. Ceu.-acilman Gillum: Mr. Ai.assa., I have a question. I read this through and it says there is a poss i,b1.1 i.ty withi:a 45 days that the c r.,gress wox),Id. be held and. the rate woiuld be reinstated that t•,as to them w they feel s -rongly that it could be tlae raljo quoted. by the raila=oad., City Malza.ger: They are-a?,til:cg th.�: tIrne out as?.d setting Lip th-1-s track to get; it to the t West, Co aol to get; t t to th -s meet-10.1 in. S` h I''1'a.L;.0 so rti this is i!here Y• r • e. ;iisl I c. t} . <�: h i o atl,� th-_.� � � ; �: h,...�'c a lz.t �. _i.t c _,�..� l:t. u sri, �;_�. , t 1.zte Cat�:r:).: l.rl n C 31 lt�irbo I rC lime 1-1-l.at, but I ar:;,. VTonde- -ing does this act like a Bo-r°d - if '►,hr:y� j-;ov.l.d. go aha: ead. and sbAp a , this rate, and thl.s appeal is granteLl would they get < rebate front thr, R.ail,r oa d? Pit, !..I assay., City 11.anage r a I ca�1` t aa-iS xer th%>%o Iy,0o V.TJ.1.I1?ore is rep:c°esenta..I:tCro-n Coach, o . R. K. W i l.•more C!'oIal" FI re Coach The rei.r-statement is not of the rat.e,, there is a.I.l. aut;oma,$' c x-ei.tl.sta.teme�l it of the appllcal1 ion one the. �Ti.Y�: vote i.s cast on the basis C T anaaellC 0?° 'torl� �4rti_c L. at i ng agency ,. 1 ;`3r at; the p,'J-n-t-� o.� eu�1�:-cka.tl-nn C):1° the po:1..I1.1- oaf, d0.j?a,�'tu:ce once that 1-Ti-E.- vote a) ).t._catpl.c:n -5-s nst l_I <, v nc ^ a. t �. t } i cam... � a..�d i.f •irl'ie:C•e i� even 021F� d..'L�: �._.r��•i.zl;; vote then c�}j.a.c is c a.iicel..l ecl but, it; is in tucn autor at:i_call_y •r. eInstated to tl,.�. S`�at:daj d. Ra.t•e Boa-l:dl_ which is ac tual.l.y i,n es ence the execut-f1l c; le -Vol t. of the ktai.l..t:�?.y and_ that deadllne is August; 18, If that, particLi ar.• 1• i).-o -trot"o case wlthoitt a d_i.rscntJ-rg vote it I-Tot?ld still be 3") days te�`c�.c`o til�:e a,ti.'t•Il.or i rat �.or ;,roul.d go ill -to effect and be a.l_l.oTed andin an`eu-a Fe 0I1 this problem em there wotjl_d be no refund to t•h.e s r_eiT -r_�a:�� i.rt effect*" t�Tot; i.a 'cil.el�e 5.5 a,no'�lier. ci? sSe,:�:G_Li1g vote i.�t: .�.s Fi..il.vil_Cr' 1i-5 dz.ys and tl---xi tll.e xate ca�ri,er i.f h-, �e7�ve: both ends on. a dile(,t 15-2ici i.Il r°ou� i.ng, that: particular 11 ..nc carr_icr car). take i.Ildel>e_rclent action. and. do t,hai: t}aey -vT:i_sh, bu:U they have to go throl,,;b. th:i.s cedu:eo Couno,!.lr.an. Gillum: Do you have another piece of equips?i^21:i ? Mr. Wi.l..rn.dTre: Yen s_Gro There !:-ere tiTo as I expla,in.ed. in t•hc le t.te:r•,, It, is a 89' ll" 1..1_atr wl.tb. the :"land a-J_r•c' . t CU1'.1t_c Cic _t. CST y tr.ttc'L type rotrl;:l.ng , bgi..ng that, i.t icy an �,30- C m C a 8-14-67 Page Thirty-one 0 SNORKEL Continued air ride type car there is no special shoring or blocking required, (EXplained ) Councilman Gillum. The reason I was concerned because you have two, Mr, Wilmorea Yes sir and we already have arranged to drive the other unit out by a professional driver. Councilman Snyder: ghat are you asking of us? Mr, Wilmoreo Permission to drive the vehicle out from St, Joseph, Missouri to Los Angeles, Councilman Snyder - Is the lettering on it yet? Mr, Wilmorea No, not until it arrives here. The matter of lettering is still under advisement, Mayor Krieger-, I never cease to be amazed during the course of the council agenda, what a broad scope of information _c-omea to..our attention and what a multitude of decisions we have to make. This one I am a little bit confused about in this respect. We bought this Snorkel F.O.B. West Covina? Mr. W� lmore .- Right • Mayor Krieger: So Crown -Coach has to deliver it to West Covina, right? Mr. Wilmoreo True, Mayor Krieger.- This bu-siness about San Francisco case up afterwards and we were asked for permission. to display it up at San Francisco I expressed some amazement at this juncture because for years we were trying to get a Snorkel and just about the time we get it, it goes up to San Francisco for a convention, Now, I understand in explanation and in satisfaction of my unhappiness about this, that this was before the actual delivery date that we we're supposed to get it so we were not going to ge't, it any later because of the conference, is this right? Mr. Wilmorea True. Mayor Krieger.- Now, we are talking about transportation from Missouri to Los _Angeles, California, where it will then be outfitted with this convention gear. and.. _sent up. to San. Franc.is.co.. o , Mr. Wilmare.o And lettered and finished also. Mayor Krieger: Yes m but how does it go up there? Mrs Wilmorea It will be driven in the same fashion, that has already been approved and there is a primary factor involved thee. Actually the concession or permission to display the unit at San Francisco at the International Association of Fire Chiefs will probably have close to four thousand delegates there o it is a matter of mutual pride. We are proud of .the uniqueness of the machine and especially its color realizing that it would be. a tremendous attention getter to our products and the Snorkel product, plus when it was originally purchased there was various proo.o.mments �o the advertising the City of West Covina would get for its initially adopting this color, having the courage to do it and to prove that it is successful, 31 s o 5-14-67 Page Thirty-two SNORKEL - Continued Mayor Krieger: Now we have had the best of relationship with your concern, both in the negotia- tion and the construction of this vehicle, there is no reflection upon our relationship, but we are buying this equipment new and we are paying a new price for it and it has been bought to order. Now if I understand what we are'going to get with the new tires and the power equipment not being affected, is a piece of equipment that if I went down to a car dealer for he would say it is used. The truck is being driven from Missouri out here and then up to San Francisco and then delivered as new equipment down here in West Covina. Now I wasn't too happy about it going -to San Francisco, frankly, and I am.evan less happy about it being driven out here. Not being an expert in the mechanical field and just being experienced as to buying a new car against an old car, how come this is good for the equipment? Mr. Wilmoreo Might I explain - you have limited your experience and by your own state- ment with regards to buying automobiles,. Would you be aware of the fact that any Ford over a 0-600 is manufactured in Kentucky._.and..abo,ut 90% are driven out .here piggy back, two trucks at a time., ..Oneruns andthe other carries. This is the relationship that this typgee of track has. This particular -equipment would be a 200 000 to 3'00 000 miler, and the actual -mile ye �i�jceg ��is equjpme�.teti would probably be more then you would actual s eein the next 5 or 7 years. Mayor Krie.gero It would be more? Mr, Wilmoreo Yes sir, it would be more. Primarily the operation of 2000 or 3000 miles .in a custom built vehicle of this t pe is advantageous to the City, providing, its dome: under the professional operation and not some joker that you would pick up to transport a vehicle in the automobile industry. This will be done with`^ our own p ar s,onn.e.l.o Mayor Krieger: Why wasn't this within the contemplation of the original^o'oiiftact? Mr, Wilmoreo The original concept was that we were going to build the complete unit in Los Angeles and through consultatip'n, as you will see in the first paragraph of the letter that we mentioned this operation, the Snorkel itself is built in St. Joseph, Missouri and we were able to combine a better engineering relationship between the companies involved. Mayor Krieger: Then why do you have to ask the City of West Covina how to get your equipment delivered? Mr. Wilmoreo Only fQr consideration and in relationship to the relationship that we have__had. I would like you to know and I am asking your permission. I think the last paragraph of my letter-expresse-s our attitude m we would like your permission. We have chosen to show this machine and there has been a lot of advertising expended already, this railroad transportation thing was an unforeseen thing that came up and I am actually trying....to win my way out of it m you might put it that.. way - Councilman Snyder: You didn't drive it back to St, Joseph? Mr, Wilmoreo No, we freighted it back o.n.a..flat car and we were assured that we would_have- the same flat rate car basis coming .back and there had been no application applied for this routing westbound and now we are finding it difficult to come back, m32® C „ C a 8-14@647 Page Thirty-three S11TO .EL 2. Co.ntinued Mayor Krieger - Mr. Wilmore- Councilman Gillum: I assume you are asking us to consider Alternate 2 rather than Alternate-1, because Alternate 2 is less expensive? I am requesting Alternate 2, Does this state in our contract Alternate 1? Mr. Wilmore- No, it is just F.O.B. West Covina, but we were contemplating the same situation the other day m m what if there was a railroad strike? We would be forced to do this and we wouldn't even ask for permission under those circumstances, Mayor Krieger: Any further questions of Mr. Wilmore? Thank you, Mr, Wilmore,.... Alright, .gentlemen, alternate 1 or 2? Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the council accept Alternate Number 2, as proposed in the letter of Crown Coach dated August 11, 1967. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES- Councilmen. Gillum, NOES- None ABSENT- Councilman Nichols b) IDENTIFICATION Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger •Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Gleckman, that council authorize the Snorkel to carry the lettering "West Covina Headquarters City" in dark blue as shown in Exhibit A. 0 Councilman Snyder: I would prefer City of West Covina as shown in the second diagram, Mayor Krieger: All in favor of the motion? Motion carried, three councilmen in favor, Councilman Snyder voting -"no" and Councilman Nichols being absent, APPOINTMENT OF ACTING CONTROLLER Motion 'by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Gleckman,..and carried, that Leonard Eliot be appointed Acting Controller for a period of 6 months, effective August 1, 1967. GRADID- AVENUE. INTER.CHANGE.. . RESOLUTION NO, 3657 ADOPTED Mayor Krieger: The City Attorney presented. - "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA URGING THE STATE DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS TO AQVIRENECESSARY RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FULL INTERCHANGE FOR GRAND AVENUE AT THE SAM BERNARDINO FREEWAY AS PART OF THE PROPOSED STATE -WEST CffINA FREEWAY WIDENING AGREEMENT," Hearing no objection, waive further reading of the body of the resolution. Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Gleckman, that the Council adopt said resolution, ®33- �+ 0 n 8-14-67 Thirty -Four GAD AVENUE INTERCHANGE - Continued Councilman Snydero I have a question, This Resolution is for the purppose of ersuad.ing the State to pay for phis? (Answer: Right,) This is not for the purpose of approving the interchange per se? Mayor Krieger: We have also asked our neighboring cities to adopt similar resolutions so so that we can act in unison, 00Uncilman Snyder: At the present time do we have an agreement with the State on the Grand Avenue interchange? Mr, Aiassa, City Managers Just a tentative, Mayor Krieger: This says if we get one we want you to pay for it, Councilman Snyders Yes, but it also asks for it. It doesn't make it.mandatory. It puts whether they pay for it or not, us in the position of approving it Mayor Krieger: We oan't make it mandatory with the State. Evidently you have reservations? Councilman Snyder: I have reservations on the interchange, Mayor Kriegers Are there any further questions on the motion to adopt the Resolution? Roll call Mrs, Preston,,,. • Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES- Councilmen Gillum, Gleckman, Mayor Krieger NOES0 Councilman.Snyder ABSENT- Councilman Nichols O.A.P. - FEDERAL COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR CITY°S GENERAL -PLAN - PLANNING -DIRECTOR RECOMMENDATION - Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried, that it oe received and filed, COMMUNICATION REGARDING PROPOSED REGIONAL. RECREATIONAL,FACILITY Mr, Aiassa: There is .a possibility of .getting..a parcel of propertl -ad joining Wilderness Park_and I would like authorization. -from the Council to authorize the Mayor hn.d City Manager to negotiate with the County or the Supervisor o Mr. Bonelli, to see if this can be brought about. So moved by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carried. WILLIAMS", COOK & MOCINE J.967 STATEMENT Motion by Councilman Gillum, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that the council authorize payment to Williams, Cook & Mocine, in the amount of $2809, for professional services through July, 1967. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, NOES- None ABSENT: Councilman Nichols Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger m34m •, ` CF C. 8-14-6`1 Page Thirty-five E. C o C e - F'ERERAL ALLOCATION OF PAY�MNT (Informational) and 0010N ;`Y HIGHWAY ASSISTANCE FUNDS ALLOCATION (Informational No510 n bCouncilman Gleckman,, seconded by Councilman Gillum, and carriddp thatt botK informational items be received _and filed. • ED 'TE'LFORD RET-IREMENT" Rl! SOLUTION OF COMMENDATION Mr, Aiassa,, City Manager-. I would like authorization from the Council to prepare a Resolution of commendation in plaque form for Ed Telford on his retirement.. So ved by -Councilman Gleckman,, seconded by Councilman Gillum,, and carried. MEETING ON_FR.EEWAf LANDSCAPING POLICY AUGUST 1.5a1967 in SACRAMENTO Motion by Councilman G.leckman,, seconded by Councilman Snyder,, that the council authorize expenses and permission for the City Manager to attend the meeting in Sacramento on August 15, 1967, regarding Freeway Landscaping, Policy, Motion carried on roll call as follows-. AYES-. Councilmen Gillum, Gleckman,, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES-. None .ABSENT-. Councilman Nichols RESOLUTION NO. 3658 ThheRDe8uty CNt'FClerk presented: 0 THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE ADOPTED CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEPTING A CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENT AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF," Mayor Kriegers Hearing no objection,, waive father reading of the body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Gleckman,, seconded by Coux4il,man Gillum, that council adopt said resolution. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows-0 AYESS 00=12i].men Gillum, Gleckman,, Snyder,, Mayor Krieger HORS o Done ABSENT0 Cofzrcil,man Nia hols _0IT1_MA1Wgy,R1S VACATION Mr. Aia.ssa,, City Mamagers I would like to take off from August 17 and I will b6 back for the meeting from the 30th to Septembs 5th. I®ca.n be reachedatanytime by phone.gone Motion by Coy cilman Sny. _r seconded by Councilman Gleckman,, and carried,, that council grant permission to the City Manager allowing him to be away on, vacation. aMra Aiassa,, City Managaro TR,EASURERHS.OFFICE SIGNATURE FOR CHECKS I would like to appoint Mr. Past as Acting City Manager in, my absence. Mr. Aiassa,, City Manager; We need check signatures for two people. One is Mr. Eliot,, now our Acting Calves,, who is the Deputy 0i TreasurerController, and the other Mrs. Yvonne 0�50 t Page Thirty -Six TRnASURER' S OFFICE - Continued Mayor Krieger: This item does not appear on the agenda,, it is an addition. Any objection to adding it to the agenda? (None) Motion by Councilman. Gluckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum and carried, 0hat council approve such authorization. (Mayor Krieger then inquired as to the condition of the City Treasurer and Dr. Snyder advised that she was much improved and would be back to work in 2 to 3 weeks.; The Mayor asked Mr. Aiassa to attend the council's wishes for a speedy recovery to Mrs. Hoffland.) CITY CLERK ABC APPLICATION OF CRISPINS HUT LOCATION: 971A South Glendora Avenvd (.on sate beer) Mayor Krieger: The recommendation is no protest. Motion by Councilman Gluckman, seconded by Cb uncilman Gillum, and carried, that there be no protest on ABC Application of Crispins Hut. CITY TREASURER None -MAYOR'S REPORTS RESOLUTIONS OF COMMENDATION FORo CHAIRMEN OF CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT Mayor Krieger: Resolutions proposed for adoption for Mt; Philip Wax and Mr, Louis Brutocao. Co-chairmen of the Central Business District Blue Ribbon Committee. Is. there any discussion on the adoption of such resolutions? (None) RESOLUTION 3659 The Deputy City Clerk presented: "A RESOLUTION. OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF TEE ADOPTED CITY OF WEST COVINA COMMENDING PHILI.'"WAX FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA. Mayor Krieger: Hearing no objection, waive further reading of the body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Gluckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that said Resolution commending Philip Wax be adopted. Motion carried on roll call vote as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Gluckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES- None ABSENT: Councilmana Nichols RESOLUTION NO. 3660 The Deputy City Clerk presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE . ADOPTED CITY OF WEST'COVINA COMMENDING LOUIS BRUTOCOQ FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA." Mayor.Krieger:. Hearing no obJection, waive further reading of the body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Gluckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the council adopt said Resolution commending Louis Brutocao.. Motion carried on roll call as follows: AYES: Councilmen Gillum, Gluckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger NOES- None ABSENT: Councilman Nichols ®36m C. CG 8-14-67 Page Thirty-Sbven JAIMS KAY, CitZ Controller RESOLUTION NO. 3661 Gayor Krieger: The Deputy City Clerk presentedo "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA COMMENDING JAMES KAY FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.BO Hearing no objection, waive further reading of the body of said resolution. Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that said resolution commending James Kay be adopted. Motion carried on roll call. as follows: AXES: Councilmen --Gillum, NOES. None ABSENT: Councilman Nichols COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS Gleckman, Snyder, Mayor Krieger Councilman Gillum: As you stated earlier, Dr. Snyder, City Manager and one of the staff and myself, met with the City Manager. ..,a'nd. . :, the Finance Director of the City of Anaheim and discussed their existing business licenses and also we were given a tour of the Convention Center. Also, this Love, to start and uelRibbon with Mr. Love, Committee on the Youth Advisory Council a4d we will have a_,meeting .shortly to set down some goals for this Committee as to its functioning, oning, 0 Councilman Snyder: I would like to ask the staff. regarding the street lighting and the rates from the Edison Company, how they are determined o on an industrial basis or a public basis and whether they are negotiable? Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: We are going to have a report on the street lighting and we will add this to the report. Councilman Snyder: I would like to know No, 1 a the base rate- No. 2 o whether.athere are other rates available- and Noe' 3 m whether the'.rates- are negotiable. One other question m on the real, -property transfer tax, was that finally signed?- ownreal.. property tax? And does it allow cities to enact their .. Mr. Williams, City Attorney: As it was last drafted it allowed cities to adopt a tax at about 3/5ths of the rate the County is allowed,to adapt and this was credited against the County°s tax, but I don't know if it was passed or not. Councilman Snyder: It says Counties are authorized to levy and we are allowed to levy and we are allowed to levy one-half of the County Tax, but the question is does the County have to levy one first? Mr. Williams, City Attorney° Mayor Krieger: I don't know. Could we have a report at the next meeting on this, Mr. Aiassao ®37m C.a C8-14-67 Page Thirty -Eight COUNCIL REPORT's Continued Mayor Krieger: On our request having to do with the Posh Office., we have had both senators jumin with both feed.,. The Postmaster General must -be getting letters on this acid wondering what it is all about. Co-ugressmen-Wiggins and Lipscomb, --and Hinators Murphy --and Kuchel, have each Iffiwitten long letters to the Postmaster General and I am hopeful from the mwlMeet copies that have now come in and I.have turned over to the City Clerk, that these will have some effect. CITY CHARTER COMMITTEE. _(BLUE RIBBON) Mayor Krieger: which will be brought into HUNTINGTONBEACH FREEWAY (BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE„ .Mayor Krieger: When Councilman Nichols returns from vacation, he has accepted the council liaison for the City Charter Committee existence. yam. Councilman Gle.ckman. has accepted the council liaison for the Huntington Beach Freeifay Committee. We will be discussing shortly the Regional Auditorium Committee and Municipal; Services Committee. Councilman Gillum is the liaison for the Youth Advisory Council. Dr. Snyder, that leaves -you for the moment without a Committee assignment. WEB Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by Councilman Gillum, that the Council approve demands totalling $274,410.689 as listed on Demand Sheets B323 m B327. This total includes payroll account. Motion carried on roll call as follows: >J AYES.: Councilmen Gillum.,. Gleckmen,,Snyder, Mayor Krieger pe A S Nfi: councilman Nichols TAXI CABS Mayor Krieg-er: Mr-0 Aiassa., you have an item? Mr. Aiassa, City Manager: It ap ears that the. Taxi Cabs want .to make this .go into effect on September 1 and I suggest to the Council that instead of a report to council on September 11, 19679that we try and have a report to you on August 28, 1967 meeting., Mayor Krieger: Does the council have any objection to accelerating that report to the meeting of 8m28®67? (No objections.) I Air, Aiassa, City Manager: I just want to state to the council that there is no change unless approved by the Council, and the ®ouncil has the authority to appoint a hearing. upon it's own; motion or a complaint to do with establish® ing new rates in lieu. I will have adetailed'report-for you onita Motion by Councilman Gleckman, seconded by -Councilman Gillum, and carried, that there being no further bus-inese that the meeting adjourn at 10:40 p.m., �to 28, 1967, at 7:30 P.M. ATTEST: APPROVED: ` 6 y Clerk U MAYOR