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01-10-1966 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST COVINA9 CALIFORNIA JANUA,RY 10y 1966 The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor Nichols at 7:35 P,m, in the West Covina City Mall, Councilman Krieger led the Pledge of Allegiance, The invocation was given by the City Clerk, Mr, Flottene ROLL CALL Presents Mayor Nichols, Councilmen Jett, Snyder (from 7;45 PoMo)9 Krieger, Heath Others Present: Mr. George Aiassa, City Manager Mr, Robert Flottene, City Clerk 6 Admino Assistant Mr, Harry C. Williams, City Attorney (from 7;40'P.Mo) Mro Herman Ra Fast, Public Services Director Mr, Harold Joseph, Planning Director APPROVAL OF MINUTES None • VISITING STUDENTS Mayor Nichols I understand we have some students from the Journalism class of Baldwin Park High School, We would like to express our pleasure at seeing you with us this evening and hope you enjoy your visit and return again, NATIONAL SAFETY COUNCIL AWARD Mayor Nichols: It has been called to my attention that a representative of the City staff has, in connection with a National Safety Council Traffic Engineering Report for 1965, been issued a certificate of achievement, This award was presented to Mro Byron Larson, who is in charge of the Traffic Engineering and Control Department for the City of West Covina. This is a National Safety Council Award and it is awarded for excellence in traffic engineering. I think it is a matter that should be placed in the Minutes and called to the public's attention because he certainly evidently merited this award and we are pleased he has received it, is EMPLOYEE AWARDS Mayor Nichols: We have several City employees present this evening who have been engaging themselves in self-improvement. Those not Ipresent this evening receiving certificates are Ralph Hardin, Joseph S*in, and R. M. Short, Those present are David -A. Celestin,James Yost, Jr,, Clarence Rumbaugh,Ray Windsor' and Roy Craig; (Presented certificates,) (Mr. Williams entered the ehambers.at 7e40 P,Mo) 0 -1- c 0 C, C, 1/10/66 CITY CLERK'S REPORTS PROJECT C-103 APPROVE PLANS & SPECIFICATIONS STREET IMPROVEMENT HELD OVER street improvement Project C-103, bids, Mayor Nichols: Page Two LOCATION: West side of Sunset, from Vine to Cameron, Review Engineer's report, Approve plans and specifications for Authorize City Engineer to call for We have a request from staff that this matter be held over, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that Project C-103 be held over to the next regular meeting of.the Council, Councilman Krieger: In looking over the report, I would be particularly interested in finding out how much we are talking about for the pavement installation and the sidewalk and from what source this would be .funded, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: RESOLUTION NO, 3297 ADOPTED Mayor Nichols: I will make a note of that and get that information for you, The City Clerk presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA REQUESTING THE BOARD OF SUPER- VISORS OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO ACCEPT ON BEHALF OF SAID DISTRICT A TRANSFER AND CONVEYANCE OF STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENTS AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM KNOWN AS THE WEST COVINA STORM DRAIN, LARK ELLEN AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF 6JEST COVINA FOR FUTURE OPERATION, MAINTENANCE, REPAIR AND IMPROVEMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER AND CONVEYANCE THEREOF" Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading.of the body of the resolution, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said • resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes; Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noeso None Absent: Councilman Snyder Said resolution was given No, 3297, (Councilman Snyder entered the chambers at 7-45 P,M,) -2- t n LJ 0 1� C, Ca 1/10/66 -CITY CLERK'S REPORTS Continued TRACT NO, 23292 EXTEND TIME TO Hone Savings HELD OVER FILE FINAL MAP 6 Loan Assoc, one year to February 8, 1967, over to January 24, 1966, Page Three LOCATION: Easterly of Pass and Covina Road at'Amar, Extend time to file final map of Tract No, 23292 for a period of Staff recommends this matter be held Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that this matter be held over to the meeting of January 24, 1966, 'PLANNING COMMISSION PARCEL MAP NO, 9 LOCATION: 1073 Spring Meadow, Vernon Eichstaedt north of Citrus Avenue, APPROVED 2 Lots - 1,84 Acres m Area District III, Approved by Planning Commission on January S. 1966, (Maps were presented and Mr. Flotten read conditions of approval,) Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, to approve Parcel Map No, 9.subject to the conditions of the Planning Department, ANNEXATION NO, 193 Mayor Nichols: Councilman Krieger: Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: We have received the report from the Planning Commission on this, This is A-19 69000, County, We have some of that down near Valley already, don't we? We have some in the Pickering Tract, Councilman Heath: I would question whether the members of the Council have been down to see this area. I have not, I would like to hold this over and take a look at the area. There, is some of that area down there I would be in favor of annexing to the City but some of it I would not be, How old are these houses? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: I would guess around the late 1950s, Councilman Krieger: The other comment made at the Planning Commission was that the people in this area have banded together in hopes of improving that area, As I understand it, they felt the incorporation into the City of West Covina would assist them in furtherance of those goals, _3_ I C, Co 1/10/66 ANNEXATION NO, 193 - Continued Page Four • Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that this matter be held over to the next regular meeting of the City Council, • • Councilman Heath: About six years ago it was figured that a house of $18,500 would start to pay for itself and anything above that would pay for itself in services. Has any number been obtained along that line recently? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: Mr, Catch has been performing research on this. I couldn't answer your question this evening. I will try to bring this information to you at your next meeting, Mayor Nichols: The value of the house is not necessarily even in each part of the City, The Planning Department attempts to relate the service cost to the taxable income from that area, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: You have a recommendation from the Planning Commission, Mayor Nichols: If there is no objection on the part of the Council, the Chair would like to appoint Councilman Krieger to represent the Council and meet with the West Covina Chamber of Commerce and representative merchants of the central business district to make specific arrange- ments for such meetings and decide whether it would be appropriate and proper for the entire Council to meet in preliminary discussions or whether he feels he could represent the Council suitably in such preliminary meetings, Councilman Krieger: I have no objection and would be happy to comply with your request as to doing preliminary work with this project because I think it is necessary and worthwhile, I hope ultimately that it will take the format of a Mayor's Conference chaired by the Mayor with particularly the property owners in these two areas in attendance to carry out a long-range program, REVIEW PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION OF JANUARY 5, 1966 I!LM So indicated by Mr, Flotten, i Ca Co 1/10/66 ''SCHEDULED MATTERS • ' 'BTDS • PROJECT SP-6535 STREET IMPROVEMENTS Pate Fire LOCATION: Portions of Sunset, Francisquito to Merced, Bids were received in the office of the City Clerk at 10:00 A,M, January 5, 1966, The bids received are as follows° CROWELL 8 LARSON SULLY MILLER CONTRACTING LAIRD PAVING CO, W, R, WILKINSON CO, JOHN W, TIEDEMANN CO,, 10% bid bond $169602,75 10.% bid bond 189334,00 10% bid bond 209541,45 10% bid bond 219376,60 10% bid bond 239645,80 Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Jett, that the bid of Crowell and Larson as presented at the bid opening January 5, 1966 for Project SP-6535 be accepted and that the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execute the agreement with said Crowell and Larson in the amount of $16,602,75, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Snyder, Krieger, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes: None Absent: None PROJECT SP-6508 LOCATION: Portions of west side STREET IMPROVEMENTS of Glendora, Merced to State. Bids were received in the office of the City Clerk at 10:00 A.M. January 5, 1966, The bids received are as follows: SULLY MILLER CONTRACTING 10% bid bond $ 99705,00 CROWELL 8 LARSON 10% bid bond 99842,28 LAIRD PAVING CO, 10% bid bond 109054,74 W. R, WILKINSON CO, 10% bid bond 109780,81 SILVERI 10% bid bond 129212,36 JOHN W, TIEDEMANN CO, 10% bid bond 159196,32 Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, that the bid for Project SP-6508 be awarded to Sully Miller Contracting on the basis of their lowest combination of lump sum and unit price bid as opened on January 5, 1966, and that the Mayor and City Clerk. be authorized to execute the agreement. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Snyder, Krieger, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes: None Absent: None -5- • C C, C, 1/10/66 SCHEDULED MATTERS - Continued HEARINGS VARIANCE NO, 578 Robert Mayer DENIED Page Six LOCATION: 217 Sunset Avenue between Garvey and Workman Avenues, Request to permit a non -conforming sign in Zone R-4 for a one-year period denied by Planning Commission Resolution No, 1861, Called up by Council on December 13, 1965o Hearing closed on December 27, 1965, and matter held over to this date, Review staff report on letter from Mro Ingram, Councilman Krieger: With respect to this matter and Variance No, 577, Unclassified Use Permit No, 106, Variance No, 573 and Precise Plan No, 413, Revision 1, I would like the record to reflect that I have listened to a four and a half hour tape of the meeting of December 27, 1965; that I was absent because of illness from that meeting After listening to it I wish to.state that I am acquainted with the arguments advanced by the applicants in these hearing matters as well as comments made by opponents as such, the comments made by the Councilmen present; that I am acquainted with the.matter before the Council and in my opinion I am prepared to vote on these matters tonight, Councilman Snyder: We have a report from the Planning Commission that it will take the normal course of events to obtain a change in the sign ordinance, Under. the present ordinance I don't see how we can grant this variance, Councilman Heath: Mr, Joseph, are the provisions for the free-standing sign in this zone? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: There are no provisions for a free-standing sign in the R-4 zone, Councilman Heath: We have on many occasions granted temporary signs during the time of construction and for a short period afterward, It is a matter of record that these signs have been permitted, I am not in favor of a one-year sign, I do feel that there could be a short-term permit, Councilman Jett: Was the motion at the last meeting to make a complete study and possible revision of the entire sign ordinance? Councilman Snyder: My motion was to study this portion of the ordinance related to "For Rent" signs on apartment buildings similar to those now allowed on subdivisions, ,Councilman Jett:. I had no idea the intent was to have public hearings, I think this should encompass the entire sign ordinance and not.just single out this section of the ordinance, Mayor Nichols: I agree, BM 13 • Ca C, 1/10/66 VARIANCE.NO, 578 ® Continued Page Seven Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that Variance No, 578 be denied, Mayor Nichols: The Mayor was contacted by a representative of the applicant with a request that consideration be given to holding this matter over, At the time my own thought on the matter was I wouldn't see. any harm in holding the matter over until such time as the Planning Commission could consider a change, From the staff report I can see very clearly to hold this matter over would, in effect, be granting the variance in that there is no way it can be handled and brought to us for any further determination in the relatively near future, Action on Councilman Krieger's motion. Motion passed on roll call as follows. Ayes. Councilmen Snyder, Krieger, Mayor Nichols Noes. Councilmen Jett, Snyder Absent. None Councilman Jett. Move that the sign ordinance be reviewed by the Planning Commission, public hearings held for the purpose of determining whether there should be changes made throughout the entire sign • ordinance, Councilman Heath; and study the sign ordinance and hold necessary, I would second the motion If the.motion was worded for the Planning Commission to review public hearings if they felt Councilman Jett. I put it that way because according to the Planning Director this is what they intend to do with the motion made by Councilman Snyder last meeting, If they are going to hold public hearings on the ordinance just for apartment houses, then w.e might just as well go ahead and study the entire ordinance, Councilman Heath. Action on Councilman Jett's motion - follows.. I will second the motion as stated, Motion passed on roll call as Ayes. Councilmen Jett, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes. Councilmen Snyder, Krieger Absent. None -7- C. Co 1/10/66 Page Eight HEARINGS - Continued VARIANCE NO, 577 LOCATION: 1014 West Garvey at Eugene Wood the intersection of APPROVED Garvey and California. Request to allow non -conforming identification signs (2) in Zone C®2 approved by Planning Commission Resolution Noo.1852. Called up by Council on November 29, 1965. Hearing closed on December 27, 1965, and matter held over to this date, Councilman Snyder: Move that Variance No. 577 be approved in accordance with Planning Commission Resolution No. 1852,, Councilman Jett: I have given a lot of thought to this particular sign and I can't help but feel that this gentleman is entitled to have his sign. The question I posed last meeting is what are the grounds necessary to prove that you have been able to meet_all the requirements for a . variance. I think this businessman is entitled to have these signs. I would second the motion. Councilman Krieger: For the record, I pretty much agree with what you said, Mr. Jett. I believe the gentleman is entitled to his variance based • upon ashowing before the Planning Commission, upon the findings of the Planning Commission, upon the testimony of the applicant, and more particularly, the comments of the Council after the hearing was closed. • Action on Councilman Snyder's Motion : Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Snyder, Krieger, Mayor Nichols Noes: Councilman Heath Absent: None Councilman Snyder: Mr. Williams, if in the presenta- tion of a case an applicant is unable to express the facts of the case precisely, should the Council help them out if they have knowledge of the facts? City Attorney, Mr. Williams: I think it is the responsibility of the Council to assist either an applicant or an opponent by asking questions to bring out and develop facts that would be relevant to a determination of the,case but not to advocate on either side. Ms]E C,, C,, 1/10/66 HEARINGS Continued UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, 106 Hope House for the Multiple Handicapped, Inc,, Page Nine LOCATION: 912 South California between Barbara and Vine,, DELETED Request for approval of a residence child care center for multiple handicapped children in Zone R-A denied by Planning Commission Resolution No,, 1853,, Called up by Council on November 29, 1965, Matter held over from December 27, 1965, with hearing held open,, City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten: The Council has received copies of a letter from Robert Collins, Secretary of the Board of Directors for the Hope House and he requests that this item.be deleted from the agenda, Councilman Krieger: I would like to express my appreciation to the Council for the comments on the tape in which the Council deferred to my absence by holding the hearing open,,. When I called this matter before the Council I stated the reason, and that is I thought it was a policy matter which would be particularly aired before the Council inasmuch as it involved an unclassified use permit which doesn't fall specifically within any zone,, I would have liked to have seen, . and I am sorry that the request has been withdrawn, a policy position by this Council, not necessarily for this location, but to welcome this type of facility within our community,, I think such a facility for the multiple handicapped children, and again I state not on this location, I think they picked a poor location for it, but I think it is unfortunate that this Council can't go on record in favor of such a facility somewhere in our City to describe what I call a desperate and obvious need, Councilman Snyder: I would second those comments,, I am aware personally of the need for facilities of this type and we are woefully inadequate in facilities of this kind, Mayor Nichols: I think it has the sympathy and concurrence of all of the Council, I don't think there is any question about that. The hearing was held open and over and during the time between the last meeting and this meeting, the applicant has directed a letter requesting the withdrawal of the application, Where do we go from here? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: The matter is closed,, The applicant can withdraw an application at any time, Therefore, there is nothing pending before you,, The Minutes will show that the application has been withdrawn,, There is no action necessary, -9- Co'C, 1/10/66 HEARINGS m Continued • VARIANCE NO, 57'3 Edward La Berge HELD OVER and PRECISE PLAN NO, 413'9 REV, 1 Edward La Berge HELD OVER plan to add storage shed in Zone R®P Appealed by applicant on December 3, December 27, 1965, with hearing held Page Ten LOCATION: 1803 Danes Drive between Pioneer and Eckerman. Request to allow an accessory building in the required rear yard .in Zone R-P denied by Planning Commission ResolutionNo, 1855; request for approval of precise denied by Resolution No, 1856, 1965, Matter held over from open, Mayor Nichols: I was.informed by the Planning Director that Mr, La Berge appeared at the Planning Director's office at 5:05 this evening and requested that this matter be held over until a later time, City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: Councilman Heath: We have a letter from Mr, La Berge dated today making that request, (Read said letter,,) Has Mr, La Berge seen the letter from Mr, Fast to the City Council dated January loth? • Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: He saw that memo tonight, Councilman Heath: Do you still feel you would like to have this matter held over? Mr. Edward La Berge: Yes, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that Variance No, 573 and Precise Plan of Design No, 413, Revision 1, be held over to the next regular meeting of the Council at the request of the applicant, Councilman Heath: Mr, Fast, we have a letter dated January 10, 1966 fi*om .you, I am quite concerned where it says "Engineering Department Requirements" where we have a piece of improved property with all structures intact, the property paved, driveways paved, and we are requiring a man to supply a grading and drainage plan showing the existing and proposed elevations, What purpose would that serve at this late date? Public Services Director, Mr, Fast: The precise plan existing on this property is inadequate. In the event this structure requires change, we wish to be able to have these conditions spelled out. These are normal precise plan conditions, I would hope that the applicant would confer with the • City staff before he goes out to retain an engineer to do something that might not be necessary, Councilman Snyder: In his letter Mr, La Berge poses several questionso There is a possibility that those questions can be answered tonight, -10- • • C, Co 1/10/66 'VARIANCE NO, 573 8 PRECISE PLAN NO. 413(1) m Continued'. Councilman Heath: between now and then, especially Item Page Eleven I think there are a few items here thatshould be reviewed F.in the report from Mr, Fast,, Action on Councilman Heath's motion: Motion passed on roll call as follows - Ayes; Councilmen Jett, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes° Councilmen Snyderg.Krieger Absent; None Mayor Nichols: I assume it is the concurrence of the Council that we ask Mr. Aiassa to insure that any specific questions the applicant has been requesting be provided for him prior to the next meeting of the Council, Mr, Edward La Berge: Thank you very much, VARIANCE NO, 572 LOCATION: 725 North Azusa between Calprop Investments, Inc, Puente and Grovecenter, HELD OVER and Request to vary the size of units, PRECISE PLAN NO. 479 density, off-street parking, front Calprop Investments, Inc, yard setbacks and required stair HELD OVER ways in Zone R-4 (proposed), approved by Planning Commission Resolution No, 1859; request for approval of precise plan of design for apartment house project in Zone Rm4(proposed) approved by Planning Commission Resolution No, 1860, Called up by Council on December 13, 1965, City Clerk, Mr, Flottene Let the record show that the publication of this hearing appeared in the West Covina Tribune on December 30, and forty notices were mailed to property owners in the area, (Read Planning Commission Resolutions Nos, 1859 and 1860,) Mayor Nichols: This is the time and place for the public hearing, Mr, Victor Zaccolin The Commission resolution pretty President much presents the case as I would Calprop Investments, Inc, like to have it presented. The 999 North Sepulveda owner of this land has been the E1 Segundo owner for quite some years, This owner will continue to be a part owner of this project. Our company has been negotiating with the owners of this property for some time concerning the development of this property, We go in and develop property and hold it for long- term investment, We have been in this business for ten years and we have not sold any of our buildings. We have some 19200 units at the present time, All the units are designed similar to the ones we propose to build on Azusa, 800 of these 19200 units are of the smaller variety, 350 square feet, I am asking you approve a unit size that serves a certain portion of our society, the single person, This type of unit will not place many burdens on the taxpayers that Co Cc .1/10/66 VARIANCE NO, 572 6 PRECISE PLAN N0, 479 - Continued Page Twelve • some apartment house developments do impose on the general public. In all our units we don't have one school child and yet we help to pay the school tax burden, We strive for quality, We have a good recreation area, including a swimming pool. I don't feel this will tear down the standards at.all, You are welcome to look at any of our projects, We are proud of themo There being no further public testimony, the public portion of the 'hearing was closed, Councilman Krieger: The reduction of the size of units on the variance is what? I understand what the applicant proposes,, What is the actual reduction? • Planning Director, Mr, Josephs The minimum size is 800 square .feet in Zone R-4, .Councilman Krieger,. I am correct that all units on the first floor and second floor including the two bedroom on the first floor, that each one of these units require a variance? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: Councilman Krieger: Yes, The increased density per acre varies from what to what? Planning Director, Mr, Josephs It is 45 in Zone R-4, There are 110 required off-street parking spaces and eighty are showri.­ Councilman Krieger: Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: Councilman Krieger: What is the reduction of the front yard setback? From 35 to 25 feet, And the reduction of stairway requirements? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: Code requires on outside doors one stairway for each four units and they exceed that. They have six stairways for 63 units, Councilman Krieger: Sir, you are acquainted with our variance requirements in the City of West Covina, The Planning Commission takes cognizance of the fact that there are other multiple family units sharing the same block frontage which have reduced front yard setbacks, Let's step aside from that variance and direct ourselves to the reduction of the size of units, What position are you taking as to justify where a variance has been granted in the City of West Covina for.multiple housing units that have constituted a variance from our minimum unit sizes to the ones that you request? Mr, Victor Zaccolin: The Californian has a unit size - that is pretty much the same size as ours would be, The Californian, -12- Cv C, 1/10/66 VARIANCE N0, 572 8 PRECISE PLAN NO, 479 - Continued Page Thirteen • Councilman7Krieger: Can you cite any other multiple family units in the City where there has been a variance for the reduction of size of unit? Is The Californian the only one? • • Mr, Victor Zaccolin: You can build this unit in an R-3 zone in the City of West Covina but you can't build it in the R-4 zones Your code does not tell you the minimum size of a unit in the R-3 zone, Councilman Krieger: Mr. Joseph, do you have any figures on the applicant's response as to the reduction in unit size for any other multiple units in the City? Councilman Heath: This-R-4 across the freeway which is now being completed, the Mayer apartments, has 250 of. its units 350 square feet in size, Planning Director, Mr, Joseph, They have a few units on the corner of the building which are bachelors, There was a.variance granted for that, Councilman Krieger: I want to know whether or not there is precedent for reduction in family unit size, Mr, Victor Zaccolin: My research report indicates that at 832 Azusa Avenue they. have 14 singles in that building, 350 square feet in size, The building is about three years old. At 838 Azusa Avenue, a four -year - old building, we have a report that those units, eight of them, are singles of 350 square feet in size, Councilman Krieger: Mr, Victor Zaccolin: Councilman Krieger: These are R-4 zoning? I am not sure -of the zone, In R-4 zone do we have precedent in the City for a reduction? Planning.Director, Mr, Joseph: Since the R-4 was created in April of 1964 we have developed two Rm4 apartment projects in the City under the present code. The Kreedman apartments meet the minimum size, The Mayer apartments met them in all cases except a few, Councilman Krieger: On the increased density per acre, isn't this really a factor the same discussion or analysis as to the reduction in unit sizes? As you reduce the unit size, you proportionately increase the density? Mr, Zaccolin: It is, -.except in this case we have more open space than we. are required to have under code, 650 of our area is open. Code requirements permit 40o to be covered in the R-4 zone, Councilman Krieger: Now, the ,reduction of off-street parking requirements; do we have precedent somewhere within our City on multiple family? -13- C. Co 1/10/66 VARIANCE No, 572 8 PRECISE PLAN NO, 479 - Continued Page Fourteen Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: Since the inception of the R-4, no Mr, Victor Zaccolin: Many of the apartment buildings in the City only have a one -for -one ratio. I don't know how recent your ordinance is requiring more than one-to-one,, We have 63 units and 80 parking spaces, Councilman Krieger: Your statement in response to that is that it exceeds a one- to-one ratio? Mr. Victor Zaccolin: We have one parking space for every tenant. I predict that we will have. We have been forced to revise this precise plan. We are going to reduce the number of units here because we have come to a point where this project is much too expensive to produce here. This will be reduced in size to a 50-unit building,, The format remains just about the same, Really, we are building below 45 families per acre, which is permissible by code. Councilman Krieger: We are being asked to proceed on the procedure if we wanted to a 63 unit,, What would then be institute a 50-unit project? • City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: An amendment of the precise although you could permit the plan would require a hearing, construction of all or part if this were approved which would allow a reduction without amendment if he didn't change anything except omit a part of what is shown here. If he altered the location or alignment, it would require an amendment,, You could put a condition to disapprove 63 but approve 50. Councilman Krieger: Do I. understand that you do have a revised plan which you intend to submit to the Planning Department which calls for a project of 50 units rather than 63 units? Mra Victor Zaccolin: Yes,, Councilman Krieger: Are any of the unit sizes materially different? Mr. Victor Zaccolin: They are identical, Councilman Krieger.: Just a change in the number of units? Mr. Victor Zaccolin: yes, Councilman Krieger: The density is the only thing • affected by your revision? Mr. Victor Zaccolin: That is correct. Councilman Krieger: How about the parking? Mr. Victor Zaccolin: We would have 64 parking spaces for 50 units,, -14- C,, C,, 1/10/66 Page Fifteen 'VARIANCE NO,, 572 6 PRECISE..PLAN NOo 479 Continued Councilman Snyder: I would think as the cost of land went up it would be more advantageous to go to subterranean parking instead of less,, Mr,, Victor Zaccolin: The cost of construction to build over subterranean is such that your rental -schedule gets too high and your vacancies get to be high,, We have to live within the income stream that the project provides,, Councilman Snyder: This is one case where I don't feel that the requirements for a variance have been shown and I am a little lost as to how the Planning Commission arrived at this,, I think this is an extensive' variance request and ended up in practically rewriting the Rm4 ordinance,, I just can't go along with this extensive a variance in the Rm4 zone Councilman Heath: In going down this list, it looks as if they have met the variance on every one of these items where these same privileges have been granted in other places throughout the City,, I can verify that the man is stating a fact when he says there is a definite need for these small apartments,, Councilman Jett: It is my opinion that the appli- cant has met the requirements of a variance in every case,, I would go along with the application,, Councilman Krieger: I am concerned with the require- ments and qualifications for a variance,, I am confused by the response of the applicant and by the Planning Director I am not quite sure I really know what the variance was on Mayer's project except there were some corner apartments in which the applicant apparently came first to the Department and then to the Commission and asked for re -allocation of floor space. I am concerned by testimony on the record that this City has before it either by original presentation or questions or discussion among the Council justification to move into these areas of variances,, I would wish that each appli- cant as he appears before the Council would assume the burden for himself in presenting a case,, This may or may not constitute a precedent in this field as far as unit size reduction is concerned,, I am desirous of reviewing that particular aspect of it further,, The two points that I called this up on were the reduction of the size of units in which I am not entirely satisfied; and the reduction of front yard setbacks, which I am satisfied with,, I think everything else stands or falls on its own,, Councilman Snyder: The other property stated as • having a variance only involved a minority .percent of units,, However., every unit in this one is asking for a variance, if I read this .plan correctly,, Councilman Heath: Mr,, Joseph, does the Californian Motel have cooking facilities? Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph: I believe they do,, ®15® 0 C,, C,, 1/10/66 VARIANCE NO. 572 6 PRECISE PLAN NO. 479 m Continued Councilman Heath: Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph: Councilman Heath: Page Sixteen Approximately how many units are in there? About 80. They are all single with cooking facilities? What are the size? Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph: They are designed as a motel The Planning Commission worded their approval to insure that it is used as a motel for transients,, Councilman Heath: It was intended to be a motel,, It hasn't ended up that way,, There is a need for this type of development,,. The small units in the Mayer apartments were the first to be rented,, City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: Was there a condition imposed limiting the number of occupants of these units by the. Planning Commission? Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph: That condition was not placed on this,, • Mayor Nichols: The first thought that comes to mind until I placed an addition on my own home it had been 840 square feet, two -bedroom house, and it seemed to me this 800 square feet as a minimum size for a Rm4 zone is rather large and I can conceive in the R-4 zone we are going to run into this kind of problem again and again for every applicant coming in to us,, I, too, feel there is denifitely room in this community for units smaller than that and with the statement that was mentioned that the R®3 zone does not stipulate a minimum size, Mr. Joseph, could you react to that? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: This was brought up by the Planning Commission,, The Com- mission felt that with the increased lot coverage, increased density, increased height and a lot of other things that were increasing the use of the property, it would be well to place a minimum size on there to insure a minimum quality type of development,, In the Rm3 the height and density and lot coverage are reduced and they felt economics themselves would dictate a better type of development in the Rm3,, Mayor Nichols: I cannot see, literally inter- preting the variance, legally as I have to apply it here, I see no precedent under our existing ordinance for a reduction of the parking and complete reduction in the minimum footage all the way through and although I am very •attracted to this type of development, I cannot in good conscience feel that this gentleman has met the requirements for a variance.,, Councilman Jett: On the properties that the applicant stated in the eight hundred block on Azusa having 350 square feet, isn't this property adjoining this particular property, the lot next to it? -16- f C, Co 1/10/66 VARIANCE NO, 572 6 PRECISE PLAN N00479 - Continued Page Seventeen • Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: It may be,, I really haven't looked into the information,, The zoning there is R-3,, Councilman Heath: Do I understand you to say from your testimony and your reports that in the immediate area there are apartments of smaller than the standard size? 0 i Mr,, Victor Zaccolin: Very denifitely, the same block as the proposed building,, Councilman Heath: What size units? Mr,, Victor Zaccolin: Singles; 350 square feet; 832 Azusa there are 14 singles out of 40 units,, We checked with City Hall to get direction on this before we started. The zoning on this property has been R-P for a long time,, The Director led me to believe that he would like to recommend to the City Council that that block go R-4. I tried to take his direction and he stated if I wanted to build this type of building we must have R-4 zoning or a commercial zone,, I was led to believe we would not be able to acquire a C-2 zone and yet the City Council approved C-2 zoning on the property to.the south,, We would not need one variance that we have if we had the C-2 zoning that our next -door neighbor enjoys, City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: Mr, Victor Zaccolin: Councilman Heath: You cannot have residences in C-2,, You can build a motel there,, I would like further clarifi- cation on this, Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: I did indicate to him that I was recommending, as the.City Council received in the staff report, that the property, that block go R-4,, We went over the requirements for construction in the R-4 zone, Then the question came up what about a motel at that time and I stated to him that a motel requires a C-2 use,, That was the gist of our conversation. The property to the south, which is Abbey Rents, has received a C-1 zoning, Councilman Heath: In the adjacent development there are units permitted now of 350 square feet, Regardless of whether that unit is R-3 or R-4, if you permit a 350-square-foot piece of propertygan'.R-3, and a piece next door is a like zoning, a little heavier, I can't see why we are not setting a precedent there or meeting the requirements of a variance, Councilman Snyder: Just because there is 350 square feet next door I don't think the use of a variance is proper to perpetuate that, -17- Co C, 1110I66 Page Eighteen VARIANCE NOa 572 8 PRECISE PLAN NOo 479--Continued • Councilman Krieger-, We seem to have a propensity on this Council to end up in discussions of philosophy rather than a question of law, We are a body that adopts ordinances which become laws of this City and then for us to say one is like another and they really aren't very different anyway undermines the whole concept of zoning and ordinances, An.R-3 is not an R®4 and it never will be. If it is, then let's forget about calling anything anything and let's say you come before us and we will take it as we.see it, I don't believe the.applicant would.be happy with that type of treatment and we would not be happy in administering those types of precepts, E • Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that Variance No, 572 and Precise Plan of Design No,.479 be held over with the hearing closed to the next regular meeting of the Council with the staff directed to prepare and submit to the Council a report on the existence, nature, extent of any other variances in R®4 zones in the City of West Covina, UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT N0, 107 Japanese Community Center APPROVED and PRECISE PLAN NO, 481 Japanese Community Center APPROVED approved by Planning Commission Council on December 27, 1965, City Clerk, Mr, Flotten° Tribune on December 30, 1965, property owners in the area, Nos, 1.862 and 1863,) I have dents in the area who have no variance, Mayor Nichols-, LOCATION° 1203 West Puente.between Walnuthaven and Hartley, Request to allow a community center in Zone R®1, approved by Planning Commission Resolution No, 1862; request for approval of precise plan for community center, Resolution No, 1863, Called up by Notice of this public hearing appeared in the West Covina and 70 notices were mailed to (Read Planning Commission Resolutions a petition with 27 signatures of resim objection to the granting of this This is the time and place for the public hearing, Mr, Don Perryman I am the buildingdesigner on the 15733 East Amar Road project, We agree to all La Puente conditions and will fulfill any requirements by the Fire Depart- ment as far as the existing building, We are asking to continue pretty much the same use, I have a sample calendar here of the activities that will use this building, (Presented said calendar to the Council,) I have two gentlemen from the Community Center who would be willing to answer any questions you might have, Mr, Tom Yamashita I am the past president of this 5004 Glendora Avenue organization, We are more Covina interested in We activities, We feel the Japanese have something we can contribute to our community, This is the reason we have a community center. We are very sure our culture..will enhance the lives of all Americans everywhere, Co C, 1/'10/66 Page Nineteen 'UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, 107 6 PRECISE PLAN NO. 481:® Continued . Mr, Edgar During Shepherd of the Valley is the. Pastor succeeding congregation of the Shepherd of the Valley two congregations that merged Lutheran.Church and we are the seller of the Home: 305 Larkwood property, There was the problem West Covina of having two properties separated by some distance, The decision was made we would sell the St, Timothy's property, 'We were pleased- that the Japanese community center seemed to best meet the community kind of requirements we wanted to provide, We are pleased that an organization already existing in the City was of a mind and in a position to make an offer for the purchase of this property, an offer that included the fact that they would continue the use of the property in somewhat the same way that it has been used and that it also was an organization which had people of this community in it, The agreement to purchase this was made some time ago and we have gone into escrow, This has had to be extended at least once and we would hope that we might have an early decision so we might be able to proceed with our own development plans as well as the Japanese group proceeding with theirs, There being no further public testimony, the public portion of the hearing was closed, Councilman Jett: I requested this be called up because there was a question in my mind as to whether this would be a permitted use within the R-1 zoning because of some of the activities taking place here. Do you charge for these lessons in Judo? Mr, Tom.Yamashita: Yes, we do. We charge what we feel is a nominal fee because there is maintenance cost on the building and the teacher has to be paid, Councilman Jett: Mr, Tom Yamashita: and also a Japanese language school mornings for about three hours, Councilman Jett: Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: • Councilman Jett: Councilman Heath: City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Are these buildings to be used for school purposes or for Sunday school purposes only? These buildings are to be used for Sunday school purposes which is held on Saturday Do the Fire Department require- ments still require that this meet the same standards? Yes, The Sunday school purposes would be the most critical. In schools where they charge a fee, is it necessary then to have a business license? This is.non®profito There would be no business license required, We will check into this for you, _19m Co Co 1/10/66 Page Twenty UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NOo 107 8 PRECISE PLAN NO. 481 ®Continued • City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: If it is a non-profit organi- zation, it falls within the terms of our code and it would appear to me that this organization .would, from what I have heard, not need a license even though they charge for certain things. U Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath,, that Unclassified Use Permit No,, 107 be approved subject to the conditions as contained in Planning Commission Resolution No, 1862,, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Snyder, Krieger, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes: None Absent: None Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, that Precise Plan of Design Noo 481 be approved subject to the conditions as contained in Planning Commission Resolution Noo 1863,, Motion passed.on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Snyder, Krieger, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes: None Absent: None AMENDMENT NO, 5 TO THE Request to amend the Comprehensive COMPREHENSIVE GENERAL PLAN General Plan of the City so as to City Initiated include that area to the south of HELD OVER the La Puente Hills down to Valley not previously included in the General Plan, approved by Planning Commission Resolution No,, 16910 Hearing closed on November 9, 1964 and matter referred back to Planning Department and Planning Commission for reports. Matter held over from December 14, 1964, to January 10, 19660 Mayor Nichols: At a recent meeting of this Council we directed the Planning Commission to undertake a study of the General Plano Councilman Krieger: This was referred to the staff and the staff is making a report, The report indicated they would prefer to wait for the economic base study to be completed, which would be about eight months from now,, Councilman Heath: I originally wanted to get the report done while this Council was still in office and it was reported the study would take about a year and then we said we would wait until after the economic base • study, Councilman Snyder: I feel it should be held over and studied, the General Plan as a whole, for the entire City with this.amendment included,, Mayor Nichols: At this time we will move one of the agenda items under "City Attorney" up and take care of that before we continue the discussion on Amendment No 5 to the Comprehensive Gene—ra :Plaan.. -20® L C, C, 1/10/66 Page Twenty -One 'AMENDMENT NO, 5 TO THE COMPREHENSIVE GENERAL.PLAN..'- Continued ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION City Attorney, Mr, Williams: to circulate and initiate petitiono Councilman Krieger: City Attorney, Mr, Williams: The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE.,CITY OF WEST COVINA RELATING TO THE ADOPTION, IMPLEMENTATION AND MAINTENANCE OF A GENERAL PLAN" It is word for .word the ordinance contained in the notice of intention I would ask that the ordinance be read in full, (Read said ordinance in full,) Councilman Snyder: Will only the Planning Com- mission hold hearings? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: It says in accordance with these articles 5 and 6, No, 6 is the procedural article and it requires hearings by both bodies, (Read Article.8,) Councilman Heath: Part of it says the Planning Commission "shall" each year review this plan, It doesn't say in how much detail? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: That's right, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced, (Mayor Nichols voted "No",) Councilman Krieger: Going back to the amendment to the General Plan, the problem with this was that this was brought to us City initiated when said develop- mental plans by Home Savings and Loan for precise plans and variances on their first increment? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: That's right, The Planning Commission wanted to take a look at the entire developmental scheme of the Home Savings and Loan property before they rendered a decision on any one part, Councilman Krieger: If I also remember correctly. the comments made when we determined as a Council to hold this matter over was we were interested in seeing some developmental phase of this plan in existence before passing upon the totality, My own feelings are we still don't have anything to look At to evaluate in terms of this and I would be predisposed to continue to hold this matter over until such time at least as the economic base study report is back, Councilman Heath: I would agree with Councilman Krieger, I believe when the precise plan is up -dated that this area would automatically be included in it and I don't see that there is any need for special study on it at the present time, -21- CO Co 1/10/66 Page Twenty -Two 'AMENDMENT NO. 5 TO VIE COMPREHENSIVE GENERAL PLAN Continued Councilman Krieger: Must we make a date certain or 0 may a motion be phrased in terms of Commission concurrent with another event that is presently un- ascertainable? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: You may make a motion to table the matter and it could be raised from the table when that motion is madeo Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,. that Amendment No,, 5 to the Comprehensive General Plan be held over to the regular meeting of the City Council next succeeding that meeting at which the. City Council receives the economic base study report, 'RECREATION 6 PARKS PARK IMPROVEMENTS City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: It is recommended that the irrigational system of the park on the Pickering site plot plan and entrance fountain at Galster be considered,, (Read portion of the Recreation and Parks Commission Minutes relating to these matter,) Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, .that this matter be referred to the Planning Department for report,, Councilman Snyder: Move that matters of this kind be referred directly to the Planning Commission before coming to the City Council; the recommenda- tions of the Park and Recreation Commission to build on City property,, Mayor Nichols: GENERAL MATTERS ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS • None The.motion dies for lack of a second, -22- Ll 0 • C, C, 1/10/66 'CITY AT ORDINANCE. HELD OVER Page Twenty -Three The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 3589 Calprop) Mr, Leroy Shaub I represent the owners of this 345 East Rowland property, Mr, and Mrs,.Stinton, We wish to hold this over and have this matter come up with the precise plan and the variance which you have held over to your next meeting Councilman Snyder: Zoning is not predicated upon precise plans. The zoning determination was arrived at independently of the precise plan. I don't think this is a valid reason to hold it over, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that this ordinance be held over to the next regular meeting of the Council, (Councilman Snyder voted "No",) ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING SECTION 6236 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SPECIFYING CERTAIN BUSINESSES WHICH REQUIRE A PERMIT BEFORE A BUSINESS LICENSE MAY BE ISSUED" Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Krieger, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance, Councilman Heath: It says you must have a permit before you can get a business license for a restaurant, Is that correct? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: A drive-in or walk-up restaurant. The copy you are looking at is not the latest copy. Action on Councilman Snyder's motion: Motion carried, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced, Councilman Heath: I think automobile muffler shops if in a C-3 zone shouldn't require a permit, -23- Co C, 1/10/66 Page Twenty -Four 'CITY ATTORNEY - Continued RESOLUTION NO, 3298 The City Attorney presented- ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPROVING PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN. NOo 461 AND GRANTING VARIANCE NO. 569" (Sugar) Mayor Nichols; Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes- Councilmen Jett, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes: Councilmen Snyder, Krieger Absent: None Said resolution was given No, 3298, DEFINITION OF RUBBISH City Attorney, Mr, Williams: Are we still holding these • matters about the definition of rubbish? City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Yes, • ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 359, Evans) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to waive.further reading of the body of the ordinance, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said ordinance be introduced, Councilman Krieger: Having listened to the tape and studying the report, I feel qualified to vote, Action on Councilman Heath's motion- Motion carried,. COUNCILMEN'S SALARY City Attorney, Mr, Williams- The State Law was amended this year, The amendment took effect September 17, 1965 but is operative as of the beginning of the terms of new Councilmen, which is the third Tuesday in April,.1966. This provides a councilman shall receive no salary except by ordinance the Council may adopt providing for payment of councilmen according to -24- C,, Co 1/10/66 Page Twenty -Five COUNCILMEN'S SALARY ® Continued a scale that has been set up,, The scale for cities the size of West Covina is $250 for'each councilman. There is no difference between the mayor and councilmen,, There is a following section that states that by vote of the people this amount may be either increased or decreased,, There is an opinion of the counsel for the League of California Cities that a vote prior to the enactment, a vote of the people prior to the enactment of this law is not a vote contemplated as in Section 36516,, The law now stands on the books and is compulsory,, There is presently a bill being drafted and request being made of the Governor to put on special call this spring an amendment of the section that will make it read as follows: "The City Council may adopt an ordinance fixing -its salary at any amount up to $250 per month for a city of this size," et cetera,, There is no call of the Legislature for that subject yet. The law isn't drafted and it may or may not pass. The present law says you receive a salary or else you receive no salary,, I have prepared the ordinance effective as of the term of councilmen beginning in April of 1966 which is the Tuesday after the election,, It will apply to the entire Council,, Mayor Nichols: When this legislation was intro- duced in Sacramento this Council, I believe unanimously, went on record as opposing it,, The legislation has been effective now and known to be effective for some months,, This Council has taken no action whatsoever to increase its salaries or remuneration under the authority of this ordinance,, We are being told tonight that the law is such that unless this ordinance is adopted, there may a situation evolved after April where a council- man could gain no remuneration whatsoever, so the City Attorney is recommending to the Council that this ordinance be introduced and adopted as a precautionry measure in order that the Council at least can insure a continuation of its current salary level,, Councilman Jett: At the last election the voters of West Covina approved the salary existing for present Councilmen,, In the event we put on the ballot for this coming April a provision establishing our salary at the level that it now exists, would that then be approved? City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: Since this will not be operative I doubt that that could be done at this election unless legislation is adopted this spring that would permit it,, As you stand now, you probably get either this or nothing after April,, If you pass this ordinance now and legislation is enacted this spring, it is almost certain that the legislation will allow you to adopt an ordinance which is effective immediately because if it doesn't do it, it will be no use passing the legis- lation,, On the other hand, suppose you don't adopt this ordinance,, You don't adopt it now and you wait until the 35 days or so barely before election and then adopted it and the time to file nomination papers has expired,, Isn't that worse than adopting it now and waiting • for the..legislation and acting then in accordance with the State? Councilman Krieger: I think either by inadvertence or intent the legislature has succeeded in boxing each city council into this same position,, By no stretch of the imagination do I conceive that our present pay scale is commensurate with the amount of time you must necessarily devote.t:o=this job, nor do I concede that even the scale that the Legislature has by their great widdom promulgated constitutes fair -25® • Co Co 1/10/66 COUNCILMEN'S SALARY ® Continued Page Twenty -Six compensation on a compensation basis. I can't conceive that anybody would run for the position of a city councilman with the compensation either as it presently is constituted or is constituted in this legislation as their motivation, I would be vehemently opposed to a situation where even a token compensation is not given to councilmen in this City and it seems to me that is the alternative of zero or compensation that has, been' fixed by the Legislature,, Councilman Snyder: I think we should follow this up by asking that this matter be put on the special call of the Legislature by resolution,, City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: Sometime ago you added a section under the chapter that deals with City Councils providing for the position of secretary to the City Council,, You amended the table of organization to delete that job but you never repealed the section of the code that created the job, Therefore, I have amended that section of the code,, (Read proposed amendment,,) That does two things,, It removes the provision that there shall -be a secretary to the City Council and inserts this ordinance,, ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE TO PROVIDE SALARIES FOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL COMMENCING APRIL, 1966 IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW" Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance's reading be waived,, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced,, (Councilman Jett voted nNo" ) ,, Mayor Nichols: It would be very easy for any Councilman in this City who feels overpaid to donate his salary back to the City,, CITY MANAGER REPORTS POLICE BUILDING ADDITION • City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: (Gave brief summary of this matter,,) Councilman Heath: I know what the'�Police Department needs in accomodations,, However, I_,would like to know where we stand on this civic center proposal that -we have,, I have heard nothing about it since we took a vote,, If this City Hall building is going to drag on and on I would vote one way; if it is going to be a reality in the near future, I would vote a different way,, ®26- C, C, 1/10/66 Page Twenty -Seven POLICE BUILDING ADDITION - Continued Councilman Jett: Mr, Williams, what is the last date in the event the Council voted to place on the ballot a proposition for the civic center development and the police facilities, a bond issue? What is the last date we would be able to vote on this and still get it on the April ballot? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: The election is April 12, It would be 60 days before that that .you would have to have the proposition on the ballot, It has to be drafted, It means the next meeting would be the last.day you can possibly get it prepared in time to get it on the ballot, Councilman Jett: What would be.necessary for this? Would we have to have a resolution authorizing the staff to hire 0°Melveny and Myers for this? City Attorney, Mr, Williams. You would have to have a motion at least. They have to prepare all necessary papers and perform all necessary services to place on the bond issue, Councilman Jett. I'd;. like to see this on the April ballot, Councilman Snyder. I would certainly oppose any such procedure for these reasons. One, to put it on the ballot at election time is bringing it up as a subject of controversy unless you are assuming all candidates are going to support it, It still has to pass by two-thirds majority, Experience has shown me that it is going to be a long time before we are ever able to pass a two-thirds bond issue in the City because the factions in this City are too deeply split and the prejudices are too deep to ever pass a two-thirds bond issue, especially at a City Councilman election, Also, if you again defeat the civic center and police station at an election even if it is only by two votes, you lessen the chance of ever obtaining money through joint powers agreement or lease purchase, I think it would be a political mistake to put this on the ballot at election time, Councilman Krieger., I don't restrict this to the City of West Covina, I think this is true throughout the State of California, This has been happening up and down the State and it is an economic fact of life and because of this very problem municipalites are having in this area the Legislature I think was encouraged to move into this area with another approach to this type of financing, I think there is great validity to your point as to jeopardizing our -other avenues of • approach for financing in the event that there was a second unsuccess- ful bond issue, I believe this would unnecessarily prejudice the avenues of approach. The people had the opportunity to vote separately on each of the four bond propositions, The percentages showed that they did pick and chose as they wanted to. I think we can be proud of this fact that as many as did cast an affirmative vote for this 2,8 million dollar bond issue, I think it is important for us to realize that what we are talking about was available to us if we can get the concurrence of the County and the joint powers as a financial situation that can be as desirable for us as the general -27- Co Ca 1/10/66 Page Twenty -Eight POLICE BUILDING ADDITION m Continued • dbligation bond utilizing the borrowing capacity as well as the borrowing credit of the County of Los Angeles, I would have some reservations in my mind if that avenue was open to us a year ago not to try to explore that because it has so many positive aspects to it. I don't want to see this opportunity jeopardized by launching oursleves into a bond campaign at this time, You gentlemen are realistic enough to know that these capital costs are going up at a much faster rate than any interest rates we are talking about, the small fractional differences of interest available to us under the joint powers of the general obligation. In our informal discussions with Stone and Youngberg there was great encouragement on that par- ticular area as to these interest rates, If this decision is delayed, we are only allowing an accelleration of these capital costs to such an extent that we are penalizing ourselves much more than we are achieving any short-range advantage, Councilman Heath: Your point is well taken, We can go on thelease purchase agreement or we can put it on the ballot, I can cite an instance where a little bit of a fire station took two and a half years to ce)nsunmate and if this civic center is going to take that much of a delay proportionately by going joint powers, I think the only thing to do is go by bond, Councilman Jett: I think when you spend somebody . else's money you should listen to them to hear their opinions as to how that money should be spent, I think it behooves this Council to do everything they can to get the least expensive route available to them. I am one of those parties who will be involved in this election, I would have to campaign in favor of what I proposed on this City Council, I am not afraid of it, If the people don't want it then I don't think we should go out and spend their money for something that they do not want and do not approve, If we present to the people the facts and the need of a police facility and a city hall, there is no question in my mind but that they will approve it, I am opposed to the lease purchase plan and the joint powers plan unless it goes back to the people for an opportunity for them to express themselves, Councilman Snyder: There has never been a bond campaign in which the facts were so_clearly available as they were in the.last one, I don't see how you can assume that all candidates running for office or even part of them are going to all be in favor of the bond issue, There will be some who are active campaigners who will be against it and they may have money to put into the campaign and a two-thirds majority is difficult enough to carry when it is the only matter on the ballot and with no opposition and how you can assume safely that it could carry in the April election and forever jeopardize us getting these buildings in any other way would seem to me a very great mistake, • Councilman Heath: The last date we have to put this on the ballot is February 11, If we don't have something concrete in the form of a joint powers agreement by that date we are cutting off one of the routes we can go, If we don't get something firm by that date, I feel I would have to not gamble on a joint powers but go by the ballot route, -28- ;,. C, C, 1/10166 Page Twenty -Nine POLICE BUILDING ADDITION - Continued • Mayor Nichols: I have said repeatedly that I believe it should go back to the voters again and I will stand on that, I think there is some prejudicial element present in putting it on an April election ballot, Councilman Jett: election but it didn't cloud City Manager's Ordinance, Mayor Nichols: There was a highly controversial matter on the last Council the issue, I am talking about the Those of us who were in the election found it pretty hot, Councilman Krieger: I think this is perhaps a graphic illustration of the problem. Iwas not in favor of a permanent addition to a dilapidated structure but I am in favor of a temporary facility that is exemplified by trailers, I think it highlights just what type of service our department is asked to work out of, Mayor Nichols: I think $165 a month each for house trailers is too much to pay for this much needed room. I would rather go out and rent two houses and give them variances and put our detectives there, • Councilman Krieger. - City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I assume these trailers are on a month -to -month tenancy? Yes, Councilman Jett: Will you be able to work out of these efficiently for one or two years?. Police Chief Sill: You asked me that about the addition, I said I thought we could and I think it would be taking a different stand saying that 950 square feet is going to do us when what we were asking for last time was something in the neighborhood of 2,00.0 square feet, Councilman Jett: Personally, I would like to see the addition to the building, Mayor Nichols: You are asking us to spend $9,000 for trailers or for $13,000 more we can add a permanent addition to the building that can be utilized by other City departments when the Police Department moves out, Councilman Jett:; Could you build a building close to your building, a cement block building to be built in such a way that when you were through with your present facilities, tear them down but yet you would have a good nucleus for a new building for the corporation yard? Councilman Heath: If you can build it for $8,00 a square foot, for $24,000 you could get 209000 square feet of building, -29- Co C; 1/10/66 POLICE BUILDING ADDITION - Continued Page Thirty • Police Chief Sill: If such a building were available we would probably be able to operate out of it, Whether it is a good policy to do this or not is your prerogative, not mine,, If you do that you will cut out what parking we have in the front,, Councilman Snyder: It seems to me the trailer solution is a wise solution,, Mayor Nichols- I would hope that the Council would go along and let the staff build the additions as proposed some time ago,, I think the need is desperate, If we don't have two other Councilmen who will support that, other than leave this meeting tonight again coming to no action to provide any facility or any help for this Department that is so overcrowded, I will go along with this recommendation to provide this trailer space although it sticks in my throat, I think something has to be done, Councilman Jett- I would prefer we added to the present facility, If we can't get a vote for that I will go along with the request for the trailers, Councilman Snyder- Move that the recommendation for leasing two trailers for the Police Department as outlined in the memorandum from the Building Department of January S. 1966 be approved, Mayor Nichols- Would you.favor going along with these temporary additions presented two weeks ago rather than this trailer? Councilman Heath- No, I would go for the trailers but I couldn't see under any conditions putting additions on that present facility, Councilman Krieger - City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- Councilman Krieger: I assume this would be negotiated and then presented for approval prior to execution? Right. I will second the motion, Mayor Nichols- This will convey the need for public facilities to have two trailers out there, Action on Councilman Snyder's motion- Motion carried, • Mayor Nichols- I hope the record reflects that this was voted for on my part as an alternative for something, rather than have nothing, -30- C, C, 1/10/66 'CITY'MANA'GER REPORTS Continued • POLICE OFFICER OFF DUTY EMPLOYMENT City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Page Thirty -One You have all the information on this, Councilman Snyder: Personally I feel that a police officer in uniform should be working for the City and the City contracting with the person using the police officer than to have the police officer work directly for someone else while in uniform. I think that is the way most cities do it, It is better for the police officer, it makes him more official, he is able to call in his fellow officers more freely, Councilman Krieger: If a report such as now presented to us was before us to begin with, I can assure you my reaction would not have been as it was, With the full facts before us I have.no objection to the recommendation that the staff has made by which the uniformed officers at City direction on overtime will be placed by the City and the payment arrangements will be strictly between the requesting agency and the City, Councilman Heath: I question the rate this City has come up with, I would bet • money you cannot supply this service for that kind of money and take care of the overhead that we are carrying here, Mayor Nichols: Mr, Heath, would you be satisfied with a later report after six months of practice under this system on the costs, et cetera? Councilman Heath: Yes, I think this is the only way we can possibly go, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded.by Councilman Jett, and carried, that payment to off -duty police officers be instituted according to the staff recommendation of November 8, 1965, EMERGENCY AMBULANCE SERVICE RATE INCREASE City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I would like to advise the Council that this appears to be an increase of almost 1000. This was a recommendation from the ambulance people, The Board of Supervisors did not accept any modification to it, I contacted the County people and they said nobody protested, Well, we didn't receive knowledge of it until after the act, • Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to authorize the City Manager to contact the other cities affected by this rate increase in the emergency ambulance service and see if we can make a formal request of the Board to reconsider. this.matter, -31- • • • C, C, 1/10/66 CITY MANAGER REPORTS - Continued VALINDA ANNEXATION Page Thirty -Two Councilman Jett; If the people of Valinda annex would the City ordinances as they exist be applied as to keeping of animals, horses, etcetera? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: The City ordinances would apply including the ordinances that permit the continuation of a legal non -conforming use so that if they are there legally at the time of annexation, they may remain for the length of time that our ordinance allows a non -conforming use to remain, SISTER CITY QUARTERLY REPORT ANNUAL AUDIT AND BY-LAWS City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: You have this quarterly report, Motion by Councilman Meath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to accept the Sister City Quarterly Report, Annual Audit and By -Laws and that they be placed on file, LEAGUE RESOLUTION RE CONTROLLING OVERHEAD UTILTTY LINES City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: This supports the Los Angeles County Division of the League presenting resolution requesting that the League support State legislation controlling the location of overhead utilities, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the City.Attorney be directed to prepare a resolution re this matter and that the Council be given time to review said resolution, COMPLAINT ABATEMENT OF BLACKBERRY BUSH NUISANCE Mayor Nichols: I discussed this with the staff today during the normal review of the agenda and it seems there are some implications involved here, If an abatement of these isattempted under the weed abatement whereby the property owners are charged for this, and that is what the proposal basically is here, then we have, in effect, established public policy in a new area where the City has never moved before and there are other water courses in the City that have �ro47tli in them as well, The question is should then the City follow in that area, If we go into this area as the original recommendation by the staff and do this at the City's expense, we have the same problem in that we are establishing a precedent and then can other people everywhere else in the City on private property request the City to come in at its expense and abate it, The conclusion this afternoon seemed to be it might be better to refer it back to the staff for an investigation, -32- C, C, 1/10/66 Page Thirty -Three COMPLAINT - ABATEMENT OF BLACKBERRY BUSH NUISANCE - Continued • City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: The suggestion that was made was the possibility of the staff reviewing all these drains that we are now giving municipal service that are not public drains, We will then determine a base policy of whether we are going to be doing this or not, • r. Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that the staff review this matter and report back to the City Council having to do with this matter, City Attorney, Mr, Williams: I think we have an ordinance. against allowing private drains to be clogged, I will check up on that for you, STATUS OF GALSTER PARK IMPROVEMENTS City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: This is a report to the Council showing all the provisions we have complied with, I would like to have this kept on record, Mayor Nichols: All right, CITY AUDIT REPORT 1964-65 Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to accept the City Audit Report of 1964-65 and place it on file, LETTER FROM LOS ANGELES COUNTY LIBRARY RE RECIPROCITY OF SERVICE Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, to accept this letter and place it on file, FREEWAY EAST JOINT WORK SESSION WITH STATE January 17, 1966 City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: We have a meeting on the 17th at 7:30, Representatives from the State Division of Highways will be here, You have not invited the Planning Commission, Do you want them present that evening? Councilman Jett: Councilman Heath: I think it would be a good idea. I would like to have them here, Councilman Krieger: It might be a good idea if we had some idea as to what our collective position, if possible, is on this matter, -33- • Co C. 1/10/66 Page Thirty -Four JOINT WORK SESSION WITH STATE ON FREEWAY EAST - Continued Councilman Snyder: I think it would be bad to have the Division of Highways here if we were badly split ourselves, Councilman Jett: At a meeting today I asked them about the two quadrant inter- section and they told me it was for country roads, They said it was not intended for major intersections, Councilman Krieger: Can we get copies of the Minutes of that meeting you are speaking of? Councilman Jett: Yes, Councilman Snyder:. I think we should get together and have common goals in mind, If the staff could draw up a set of goals and see that we agree, then we can have our meeting, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the Planning Commission be invited to the joint work session with.the State on Freeway East: Mayor Nichols: Councilman Krieger: and Monday night can't we meet o some kind of understanding among I think this could be a -fruitful City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I thought the meeting was just a discussion meeting, Is it impractical to suggest that this Council between now n this subject matter to arrive at ourselves as to what we are doing? meeting or a very disasterous meeting, 8:00 and meet somewhere for dinner at Mayor Nichols: WATER PROBLEM We can change the time for the meeting with the State to 6:00 and discuss this, I think that meets with the approval of everybody, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Krieger, that staff be directed to commence activity according to the recommendations. of Leeds, Hill and Jewett in Section 9, Page 1 of their report dated June, 1965 as follows: That the City Council decides as a matter of public policy to form a municipal water department and that the following steps.should be taken to commence negotiations with Home Savings and Loan Association concerning the procedures to be followed by the City in providing service to the projected development; to establish policies and procedures concerning the proposed municipal water district; submit revenue bond .to the voters; if the bond election is affirmative, initiate prompt and positive action to acquire assets of Suburban Water Company and affiliate water companies as necessary to establish.a municipal water company; after successful acquis-i.tion of the necessary assets of Suburban Water and affiliate companies to commence proceedings to acquire assets of other water purveyors as necessary to complete the municipal water system, -34- C, C. 1/10/66 WATER PROBLEM - Continued Page Thirty -Five • Mayor Nichols: I realize what I say might be misconstrued and I hope it will not be, I have studied the report the same as the rest of the Council has. I believe it is a report whose findings could have been anticipated at the outset of the study. I believe it is a report that is fraught with potential hazards and dangers. I believe the implementation of this report may well cost the City many many hundreds of thousands of dollars of general fund revenues to acquire various water systems. I believe that a great deal more study should be made in a study session among members of this Council rather than in one thirty -minute period which represents the total time this group considered this. I believe when we are talking about something as monumental as this, much more time should be spent on it.' Based on the limited information that I have available I am absolutely opposed to giving staff such a direction and I believe it can only result in a great deal of additional community agitation, disturbance, and complete failure of its intent, Councilman Heath: We,have discussed this item very thoroughly -- Mayor Nichols: We have not, We only spent about thirty minutes as a Council on this entire matter as this report came out. Councilman Heath: It has been discussed thoroughly enough to satisfy me but I still say I am not in agreement with the purchase of a water company because I do not think this is a function of the Citv. I feel it is building an empire for any city manager, not necessarily our own, our present one, but any future one, It is building an empire for that person, It is taking on more headaches that we don't need and I still maintain that a governmental body cannot operate as efficiently as a private enterprise. Councilman Krieger: Only with respect to the matter of time, because I think from that point on we are in the area of philosophy, I will discuss this. We received the final report of Leeds, Hill and Jewett and James Montgomery seven months ago. We have had certainly ample time within that seven months on our own to review and study that report. If we spent only thirty minutes asking questions of the representative that came down, that is our fault, not his, We had previous meetings while that report was in preparation with Harvey Banks, with James Montgomery, and with Myron Holberg, and those men came down on several occasions before this Council and we batted the thing around with them and some of the questions that were asked were very worthwhile and some were completely inane, but in any event, we have had this report for seven months and the gentleman was here and we had -the opportunity to ask any questions and if those questions were not • asked, it is the responsibility of the Councilman who did not ask them. We had this opportunity for seven months to work on this thing, and I think if a Councilman is still ill-equipped to make a decision on this particular question, it is his shortcoming and not the shortcoming of the study or the opportunity, -35- C, C, 1/10/66 'WATER PROBLEM Continued Page Thirty -Six • Mayor Nichols: Councilman Krieger, you have made a statement here that creates an inference that I, as a result of having said I could not be prepared to vote on this matter, that I am not equipped, that I have not properly mastered the material that has been before me, and I feel you have drawn anerroneous conclusion. I am not speaking of the opportunity to receive additional commentary from the men who did the study, I am speaking of the opportunity to further discuss the various ramifications of this study among ourselves here on the Council, not with their representative, but in the absence of their representative, Now, it is true that we have had this study for a long long time, I have read it and you have read it and I do not impune your knowledge of it and I hope you won't impune mine, and I don't mean to say that you did, per se, We have had no opportunity as a Council yet ever to.sit down together as a Council in the absence of those who prepared and submitted this report and discuss it back and forth as a Council, I do not like to deliberate in the presence of the advocate of the report and to raise the kinds of issues I would choose to raise to this Council and which I would be prepared to raise in the future, Councilman Krieger.- Do I understand your opposition merely that you want a study meeting on this report? • Mayor Nichols: I want to attempt to raise with each member of this Council a number of the areas of great concern that I have; a number of the areas which I feel at this time pose a great danger before we bring this matter to a vote. I will say this finally, That when this vote is taken, when the majority of this Council takes a vote and makes a decision, I will not be out on the streets in this town stirring up opposition and leading opposition personally to try to block this in the community, I may or may not continue my present course of opposition because as of now I don't agree with it, But once the vote is taken I will remain silent from that time on but I don't feel I have yet had the opportunity to present my viewpoint as a Councilman in a study session on this Council and I don't want to spend an hour doing it in a scheduled Council meeting, Councilman Krieger- I think this matter is so long range and so important that certainly a matter of a short delay for the purpose of scheduling a study meeting where we may each let our hair down is not going to bridge difficulties but certainly can only illuminate the issue. If your sole opposition at this particular time is as to the timing of it to bring this matter to a vote tonight, I would be willing to defer to you, Mayor Nichols- I am striving for an opportunity • to discuss this in the Council to see if there is anv possibility that I can convey to you my concern that we should delay this longer, If I can't convey that to you, then I feel you have to make your decision, Councilman Krieger: At what time are you prepared to sit down with this report in a study meeting and discuss it? -36- 0 • CO'C. 1/10/66 WATER PROBLEM -'Continued Mayor Nichols: Councilman Krieger: Councilman Snyder: to convince us of faults in this company of this stature that you of this report. This report as it up I am convinced was done on Page.Thirty-Seven Any day. I would suggest that this Council fix a study date and that we table the motion. He has indicated his purpose is not to convince himself but report. I cannot conceive that a could have anticipated the.results far as the participants in drawing an unbiased basis. Mayor Nichols: The entire recommendation as to the feasibility of this acquisition is predicated upon certain costs of acquistion, certain costs of operation, and certain revenues that will accrue to the .company. It assumes a certain range of operation and it assumes a certain amount of revenue. It assumes a certain cost at high ranges. Taking their estimated high ranges of cost it assumes a certain advantage to the City stated as about 20% advantage over private operations dollarwise alone. Now, when we were in here the other night, gentlemen, the consultant said you have a great advantage here. If for any reason we haven't voted enough money and we don't have enough money to acquire all of these companies that are listed here and projected, you just go and acquire Suburban or whatever you can acquire. If that is the case, that this is conceivable that this might happen and if that did happen, then all of the revenue projections based on the acquirit:g of the total system and all of these companies go right down the drain and you are paying a higher figure and as a result of that your revenue figure drops and your entire report could be erroneous. Councilman Snyder: You are out.of context because what the gentleman said was in response to my question what happens if the amount of bonds you vote do not come up to what this report says and he didn't volunteer that and say we can just acquire Suburban, and he answered that in response to my specific question, so that is not a valid example. Councilman.Krieger: We build in certain limitations as to the comprehensiveness and detail particularly having to do with the financing and acquisition aspects of that report because we tried to hold the expenses of that report to a minimum. The original recommendation was for $309000 and we told them they had to bring it in at $259000 and not to exceed it. Mayor Nichols: I will withdraw my objection and my desire to have a study session and discuss it. I suppose all of us made our decision in advance. Councilman Heath: Mr. Mayor, you have been on the Council long enough to know that when we come to this position that you can talk until you are blue in the face and you are not going to change the opinion of anyone else on this Council. Let's take a vote now and get it over with. -37- 0 • J C. C,_ 1/10/66 WATER PROBLEM - Continued Councilman Krieger: Mayor Nichols: Councilman Snyder: Mayor Nichols: Action on Councilman Krieger's motion: Jett and Heath voted "No",) Councilman Krieger: Mayor Nichols: Councilman Snyder: minutes on this matter, I have a whole has. spent hours on this, Page Thirty -Eight I move that the motion be tabled to the next regular meeting of the City Council, The motion dies'for lack of a second. I will second that motion, The motion now.has a second, Motion carried, (Councilmen What is the first convenient study date between now and the next regular meeting? It is the consensus that we will meet on it a week from Tuesday. I resent the statement that the Council only spent thirty spent months on it, The Council as I am ready to vote tonight. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that this matter be voted on tonight; that this matter no longer be tabled, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett,:Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes: Councilmen Snyder, Krieger Absent: None Action on the original motion by Councilman Snyder: Motion failed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilman Snyder Noes: Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Heath, Mayor Nichols Absent: None Councilman Snyder: That was the motion for the staff to go ahead on the suggestions Of Leeds, Hill and Jewett. I think the Council is taking the action they are taking because they are afraid of what some people might think and I vote for a man for public office because I think he is going to do what he thinks needs to be done for the City regardless of what the people might think, Mayor Nichols: Councilman Snyder: Councilman Krieger: You are making statements that rather impune the integrity -- That is my opinion. May we have a study session on this water report on January 18? C, C., 1/10/66 Page Thirty -Nine WATER PROBLEM - Continued • Lotion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that we abandon this plan of buying a water company as a City policy, Motion passed on roll call as follows: • Councilman Jett: Councilman Snyder: Aye, No, Councilman Krieger: No, and if the other members of this Council are sincere in their statement that they want to hold a study meeting, we will hold a study meeting before we come to a final vote on this, Councilman Heath; Aye, Mayor Nichols; Aye, 'CITY CLERK APPLICATION FOR TRANSFER OF ON-SALE,BEER LICENSE Edwin Eric Martin and Kay Christine Martin dba My Place - 1621 1/2 West Garvey Avenue Motion by Councilman Heath, -seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the Council voice no protest to this.application, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF GLENDALE REQUESTING BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ACT AFFIRMATIVELY WITH REGARD TO FOOTHILL FREEWAY ROUTE AGREEMENTS Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that this Council take no action on this resolution from Glendale, NOTICE OF INTENTION TO CIRCULATE PETITION General Plan City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: Councilman Krieger: City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: REQUEST OF $100 DEPOSIT REQUIRED FOR FILING STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS Mayor Nichols: Where does the action you took leave me on this petition? We revised it. There will be no action. I think this is an excellent presentation, -39- 0 • C, C. 1/10/66 Page Forty REQUEST OF $100 DEPOSIT REQUIRED FOR FILING STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS - Continued City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: You may submit your qualifications in'a 150-word report but you don't have to. If you are going to, I want $100.00 deposit, LEAGUE RACE City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: The League of California Cities has their day in Arcadia, the races on the 20th, Does anyone want to go? Councilman Heath: I do, PROPOSED ANNEXATION (194) City Clerk; Mr, Flotten: I have a small annexation to present to the Council, (Presented information to the Council,) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, that this matter be referred to the Planning Commission for a report, LAWSUIT City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: Evidently during the removal of the palm trees on Lark Ellen a tree fell on a house, Mr, Charles W. Godpole is suing us, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, to reject this matter and forward it to our insurance carrier, CITY TREASURER None MAYOR'S REPORTS WEST COVINA SPARTAN WEEK Mayor. Nichols: This is January 10 to 14. If there are no objections, I will so proclaim, (No objections voiced,) So proclaimed, -40- i 0 C. C,, 1/10/66 —COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS Page Forty -One LEAGUE MATTER Councilman Heath: I have a paper which I sent to all of you from the League of California Cities which shows how much the City of West Covina is going to gain by the new method of collecting taxes,, I think this is a good report,, This is just for your infopmation,, NOTIFICATION Councilman Heath: In the City when you have a hearing before the Planning Commission you have a hearing on a Wednesday night, the applicant doesn't hear the results formally and know the conditions formally until as much as ten days or even two weeks afterwards and then the appeal period starts. All this is time and money for the developer. I have been for a long time claiming in this City that we owe a service to these applicants and they should be advised as soon as possible on what the outcome of the hearing was in a formal manner with the conditions instead of having to have to sit there and take down rough notes as it goes by, The reason we wait for ten days or don't notify the applicant is not a fault of Mr. Joseph and I don't want it to be .insinuated that it is. There are many facets which control him and tie his hands,, I was concerned with a zoning matter in the City of Covina. I received through the mail at my office a complete legal description, people who testified, all the conditions on the dedication, the ' property developments, the off -site improvements, shopping center site, and other conditions within 36 hours after the public hearing and it came through the mail. This is something this City has tried to do for seven years and can't do it and it takes a little city like Covina to teach us how to do it and this is not the only thing they are teaching us. I think this Council ought to request and require that we streamline and speed up some of the operations we have now in our City staff,, If other cities can do it, I think we can do it,, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: quoting and examine it myself, Councilman Heath: City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: FLAGS AND BANNERS AMENDMENT I would like to have the case number that Mr. Heath is I will give you the minutes and the envelope it came in. We will check this out, Councilman Krieger: I am the Council representative to the Planning Commission, Some time ago we referred to the Planning Commission for their comments the proposed amendment to the ordinance on banners, flags, buntings. There was some question of interpretation and consensus on the recom- mendation of the Planning Commission, Chairman McCann has appointed a li-Aia.on committeeof Commissioners Gleckman and Adams and requests that the Council and the Mayor appoint a committee of Councilmen to work with Commissioners Gleckman and Adams, -41- • �_i C. Ce 1/10/66 FLAGS AND BANNERS AMENDMENT - Continued Mayor Nichols: Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: LEAGUE COMMITTEE LIST Page Forty -Two I will appoint Councilmen Jett and Snyder to serve on that committee. I will so notify the Planning Commission. Councilman Snyder: The League of California Cities new committee list is out. I think we have two staff on committees with the State League and I am on two committees, The Revenue and Taxation Committee meets on February 1 at Oakland Airport and I would like authorization for my plane fare. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Krieger, that Councilman Snyder be given plane fare for his trip to Oakland on February 1, 1966. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Noes: None Absent: None PORNOGRAPHY PROBLEM Snyder, Krieger, Heath, Mayor Nichols Councilman Jett: I would like to call attention to one thing. We received a letter from Assemblyman Young, who is chairman of the Criminal Procedures Committee. This is in answer to our resolution on pornography. He calls attention to this meeting to be held January 17 and 18 in Baldwin Park but it does not in any way refer to pornography or smut at all. He asked if anyone from our Council cared to appear and give testimony. I don't believe we would care to give testimony in reference to these items. However, I would like to see us attempt to bring before that Committee the question of pornography and smut and indecent literature problems. Mayor Nichols: Councilman Jett: of that committee being picketed pornography. DEMANDS i If it isn't on their agenda, they don't intend to hear it. I thought I heard this afternoon that there is a good possibility by a group of women concerned about Councilman Krieger: Mr. Aiassa, did you or Per. Flotten look over these approval for demands? You have seen the ink interlineations on these demand sheets? City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: Yes. -42- • a C, C, 1/10/66 DEMANDS - Continued Councilman Krieger: City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: Councilman Krieger: City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: Councilman Krieger: City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: This is on Pages 2 and 3. �,lere these made by the Finance Director? Yes. On both sheets? Yes. And the interlineations are the corrections? Yes. Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman'Snyder, to approve demands totalling $404,060.78 as listed on demand sheets B228 through B230, C479 and payroll register. This total includes fund transfers of $2801764.90. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Snyder, Krieger, Heath, Mayor Nichols Noes: None Absent: None There being no further business, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, that this meeting be adjourned at 12:55 A.M. ATTEST: CITY CLERK APPROVED MAYOR -43-