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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
January 25, 1965
The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor
Snyder at 7:35 P.M. in the West Covina City Hall. Councilman Heath
led the Pledge of Allegiance. The invocation was given by Rev. John
Reid of the Community Presbyterian Church.
ROLL CAT.T.
Present: Mayor Snyder, Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath
Others Present: Mr. George Aiassa, City Manager
Mr. Robert Flotten, City Clerk & Admin. Assistant
Mr. John Q. Adams, Public Services Director
Mr, Harry Co Williams, City Attorney (from 8:00 P.M.
to 9:30 P.M.)
Mr, Dwight Newell, Acting City Attoreny (from 9:30 P.M.)
Mr, Harold Joseph, Planning Director
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 21, 1964 - Approved as submitted as follows:
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the Minutes of December 21, 1964 be approved as submitted.
December 28, 1964 - Approved as corrected as follows:
Councilman Krieger: On Page 29, the Minutes reflect
that I seconded a resolution
which had to do with the Irwindale resolution and I did not second that
resolution. I voted against it.
Councilman Heath:
I believe I voted for that reso-
lution and I will go on record
as seconding it.
Motion.by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the Minutes of December 28, 1964 be approved as corrected.
January 11, 1965 - Approved as corrected as follows:
Councilman Krieger: I would call attention to Page
37, a statement made at the
bottom of the page attributed to May Pro Tem Nichols commencing with
the words, "Mr. Krieger". This statement was made by me and directed
to Mr. Ebinero
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the Minutes of January 11, 1965 be approved as corrected.
January 13, 1965 - Approved as submitted as follows:
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the Minutes of January 13, 1965 be approved as submitted..
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
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TRACT NOa 27416 LOCATION: South side of La Puente
ACCEPT STREET IMPROVEMENTS ON Road between Forecastle
CERTAIN -STREETS IN TRACT Avenue and Flemington
Pickering Enterprises, Inc. Drive.
APPROVED
Engineer's report submitted.
Accept street improvements on certain streets in Tract No. 27416.
Retain full bond amount until completion of tract. Staff recommends
acceptance.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to accepti�the-engineer's recommendation and accept these streets in
Tract No. 27416 for maintenance, and to retain the full bond.
RESOLUTION N0. 3086
Elks West Covina Lodge #1996
ADOPTED
Mayor Snyder:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
ACCEPTING A CERTAIN WRITTEN
INSTRUMENT AND DIRECTING THE
RECORDATION THEREOF" (Grant
.of easement ® Board of Directors,
Elks West Covina Lodge 1996.)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Councilman Heath: When we discussed this there was
a possibility that Wescove Place
would travel westerly and turn north. The drainage is in a south-
westerly direction. Therefore, we could not drain this water out on
California Avenue. It would have to come out on Merced. Where would
..the permanent easement be?
Public Services Director, Mr. Adams: If Wescove does not continue
through to California we do have
a storm drain now being constructed in California and we could pick up
for Wescove and tie into the drains that will be constructed. The
easement would have to go through private property. If a development
comes in they would have to develop the easement.
Councilman Heath: I feel this easement proposed
here is a permanent easement
and I think we should regard it as such. Would you like to hold this
up for a re -recommendation?
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: I think it's too late.
Councilman Krieger: I would suggest we accept it
on a temporary basis. If it
must be made permanent I.am quite sure they will always be willing to
accept the money and give us the permanent easement.
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'RESOLUTION NOQ 3086 - Continued
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Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Mayor Snyder
Noes: Councilman Heath
Absent° None
Said resolution was given No. 3086.
WEED ABATEMENT - 1963 LOCATION: A portion of Lot 100
APPROVE REFUND OF WEED of E. J. Baldwin's
ABATEMENT ASSESSMENT second subdivision of
APPROVED Rancho La Puente.
Accept Engineer's report. Approve refund in the amount of $123.10 for
weed abatement assessment covering Parcel 9, Page 007, Map Book 8467,
to Charles R. and Barbara H. Tucker. Authorize Finance Director to
make refund from Account 832. Staff recommends approval.
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, that the
Director of Finance be authorized to refund the sum of $123.10 to
Charles R. and Barbara H. Tucker in accordance with the report of
January 18, 1965. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett,
Noes: None
Absent: None
DANCE PERMIT REQUEST
Jim's Water Wheel
Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten: (Read letter dated January 25,
1965 directed to the City of
West Covina requesting to appear before the Council at their adjourned
meeting of February 1, 1965 and signed by Brown and Cianchetti by Sam
Cianchetti, Jr.)
Councilman Jett: I think this gentleman at the
Water Wheel is making every
possible effort to re-establish the business there. I think he is
making an effort to prove he wishes to do what is right and I don't
think we should attempt to cause this man any further trouble or
harrassment. I think he has the right to expect fair treatment and I.
for one, would go on record to say I would not object to his renewing
his dancing permit.
• Councilman Heath: I feel somewhat the same way.
I think this would be a good time
for him to prove what type of operation he can run. I would not be
against issuing a temporary license.
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DANCE PERMIT REQUEST (JIM'S WATER WHEEL) - Continued
Councilman Krieger: The only question I would have is
one of timing. If I understand
the chronology correctly Mr. Lotito's dance permit came up for renewal
on December 31st. Apparently the Chief of Police refused a renewal at
that time and here we are on January 25 and they are asking for an
interim permit and wish to appear at our meeting of February 1st, to
explain what has been happening with the A.B.C. Board. If they have
allowed 25 days to pass without asking for the interim permit I see no
reason why we cannot wait at our grace an additional few days to
determine the full status of this matter.
Mayor Snyder: It seems to me the reason for
holding up this permit will be
discussed at the hearing on February lst.
Councilman Nichols: It is my understanding of the
ordinance as written that the
authority for these matters is vested in the Chief of Police unless
there is a formal appeal to this Council. I do not interpret this letter
as constituting an appeal from a refusal to issue a license but rather
an.administrative extension for a short period of time. It would be
my understanding of this that this is a matter that would not require
Council action.
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: Under Section 4111 they want to
appeal to the Council. All they
want is to be able to operate between now and the time they appeal so
we don't shut them down. Only the Council can grant this interim period.
Councilman Nichols:
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Krieger:
Police Chief Sill:
Councilman Krieger:
Is there a recommendation from
you or one of your staff?
The Chief of Police has no
objections for this short period.
Chief Sill, do they have a
permit at the present time?
No.
How is this an extension? This
is an issuance of an interim
permit.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Heath, that the
Council authorize the Chief of Police to issue a temporary license,
cabaret license, to Jim's Water Wheel to extend to February 1, 1965.
Councilman Krieger: To your knowledge would this
have any evidential value before
• the A.B.C. Board at their hearing tomorrow?
Police Chief Sill:
I can't answer that. I wouldn't
be able to evaluate it. I am
not familiar with A.B.C. hearings.
(Mr. Williams entered the chambers at 8:00 P.M.)
Action on Councilman Nichols' motion: Motion carried. (Councilman
Krieger voted "NO".)
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'DANCE' PERMIT REQUEST (JIM'S WATER WHEEL) - Continued
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-. I would like the following to be
included in the motion-. "Should
the Council so order it should be made clear to the applicant and
placed.in the record that such delay is a matter'of grace and operates
without prejudice to either side with respect to any subsequent
administrative or legal -..proceedings,
Councilman Nichols-. I will accept that amendment to
my motion,
Councilman Heath: I will accept it as the second,
Action on the motion as amended: Carried, (Councilman Krieger voted
"No",)
SCHEDULED MATTERS
PROJECT NO, C,O,6516
LOCATION-. Cameron
Park site,
COMMUNITY YOUTH CENTER
BLOCK WALL
Bids received in office
of. City Clerk, 10-.00 A.M., January
21, 1965,
The bids received are as
follows-.
AERO LINE FENCE 8 MASONRY $510.00 bid bond
$ 5,082,21
SOUTHEAST CONCRETE
PRODUCTS $596,10 cash, ck,
59961,00
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, that the
contract be awarded to Aero Line Fence 8 Masonry on Project No, C,O,6516
on the basis of their low bid items for a total estimated amount of
$5,082.21, and that the Mayor and the City Clerk be authorized to
execute the agreement. Motion passed on roll call as follows-.
Ayes-. Councilmen Jett,
Noes-. None
Absent-, None
HEARINGS
Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder
DISTRICT A'11-61-2 Hearing of protests or objections
SANITARY SEWERS to the change of work in Assessment
CHANGE OF WORK HEARING District No, A911-61-2, Barranca
Avenue, Virginia Avenue, and Other
• Streets and Rights of Way, as described in said plan and specifications;
set for hearing this date by Resolution of Intention to Change Work
No, 3066, adopted by the City Council on December 28, 1964,
Mayor Snyder-.
This is the time for the hearing
of objections to change work,
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D'I'STRICT`A111-61-2, SANITARY SEWERS Continued.
Mayor Snyder: Mr,, City Clerk, do you have the
affidal.vit's of publication?
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten: Yes.
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to receive and file the affidavits.
Mayor Snyder: Mr. City Clerk, have you
received any,written protests
or objections against the doing of the proposed work?
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten:
No protests received either oral
or written.
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that since there are no protests, either written or oral, that this
hearing be closedo
RESOLUTION NO. 3087
Assessment District A111-61-2
ADOPTED
Mayor Snyder:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
ORDERING CERTAIN MODIFICATIONS OF
THE WORK TO BE DONE IN ASSESSMENT
DISTRICT Ae11-61-2, BARRANCA
AVENUE, VIRGINIA AVENUE, AND
OTHER STREETS AND RIGHTS -OF -WAY"
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows.:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 3087.
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HEARINGS - Continued
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VARIANCE N0,, 520
LOCATION: Easterly of Pass and
Home.Savings 6
Loan Assoc.
Covina Road at Amar.
APPROVED
Request to permit cluster housing
and
with (1) reduced front yards, (2)
reduced side yards, (3) reduced
PRECISE PLAN.NO'o
422
rear yards, (4) reduced net lot
Home Savings 6
Loan Assoc.
area, (5) increased ground
APPROVED
coverage per lot, (6) reduced
size of units, and (7) reduced
and
internal driveway width, in
Zone R-2; approved by Planning
TRACT NO, 23292
Commission Resolution No. 1718.
Home Savings.&
Loan Assoc.
Called up by Council on December 14,
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1964; appealed by Home Savings 6
Loan Association and by Homeowners
Association on December 1-8, 1964.
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten:
Request for approval of precise
plan for multiple family housing
approved by Planning Commission
Resolution No. 1719. Called up
by Council on December 12, 1964;
appealed by Home Savings 6 Loan
Association and by Homeowners
Association on December 18, 1964.
Request for 353 Acres - 1157
Lots - Area District I. approved
by Planning Commission on
December 2, 1964..
(Read Planning Commission
Resolution No. 1718.)
Councilman Krieger: Regarding Item No. 4, is this in
fact the conditions on this
variance upon the vesting or reversion of title? I understood there
was to be no reversion of title in this variance.
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: This matter came up at the
Planning Commission. This
was imposed on the previous similar types of developments such as
this. If it is necessary, it will be done. It was -left at the
discretion of the City Attorney to work out the legal ramifications of
this. This is subject to the City Attorney°s approval.
Mr. Graham Ritchie:
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph:
Mayor Snyder:
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We agreed to that condition.
(Read Planning Commission
Resolution No. 1719 and gave
brief summary of the matter.)
Mr. City Clerk, do you have any
written communications on this
matter?
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HOME SAVINGS 8 LOAN ® continued
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten: I only have the letters of
appeal. The appeal of the Home
Savings and Loan Association refers only to item No. 6 in Variance 520,
and this appeal refers also to Item No. 7 in Precise Plan No. 422.
I have just been handed a
telegram directed to Norman Snyder in favor and signed by Mr. Mendoza
of the Cement Local No. 627, I also have a telegram signed by
Carpenters Local Union No, 769 in favor of this matter. This is a
letter directed to West Covina City Council dated January 28 from the
Homeowners Association in opposition and the East Hills Homeowners
Association, I have a letter from the Building Material and Dump
Truck Drivers in favor of this matter.
Councilman Nichols: This letter just quoted from
the Building Material and Dump
Truck Drivers is addressed to the Mayor and carbon copies were sent
to Councilmen Jett, Heath and Krieger and I would like the record to
show there are five Councilmen in the City of West Covina if the
Dump Truck Drivers are interested,
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten: I have one letter from the West
Covina Homeowners Federation
signed by C. W. Dowding,, Chairman, requesting a referendum for the
people to vote upon this application.
Mayor Snyder:
IN FAVOR
This is the time and place for
the public hearing.
Mr, Graham Ritchie: The action of the Commission
boils down to a couple of things.
They approved basically the precise plan and the variance. They imposed
a condition on the precise plan of the first phase subject to the
conditions they imposed that we could submit precise plans on phases
two and three of the first increment as long as we did not exceed the
standards established for the development. We presented the precise
plan for phase one and the Planning Commission imposed those conditions
and indicated they would permit us to develop in accordance with those
conditions. There were many conditions we might have quibbled about
but we accept the conditions as imposed with one exception and the one
exception is the condition that says that no single family house, no
one unit may be less than 950 square feet; secondly, that at least
50% of the units that are built must be at least 1200 square feet in
size, We have submitted a proposal for distribution of unit sizes.
This was in the original staff report. This reflects the original
request for unit size distribution that they could be permitted to
develop on this property. The Planning Commission had this before them
and we assumed if there were going to be any substantial modifications
that we might at least be consulted to find out if it in any way
conflicted with our plans or made it impossible to develop but the
Planning Commission with rather short conversation and consideration
made a motion that no unit should be less than 950 square feet and half
of them would be over 1200.
The proposal we have does no
great violence to the standards of development you have in this City,
Based upon our studies which involve consideration of grading, street
alignments, lot sizes, we came up with two variations of lot sizes
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and this was all part of the planning that took approximately a year and
a half to ultimately develop. We'have been striving for something we
could economically market and some variation in houses in an attempt
to meet the needs of all of the people we expected to purchase property
within this development, We really feel the distribution you see before
you is not inconsistent at all.with what you have at the present time
in West Covina or even with the standards which the Planning Commission
had in mind when they attempted to impose this 950 and 1200 condition,
We prepared two charts to show you how close we are to the conditions
imposed by the Planning Commission, (Presented charts and explained
same,) 65% of the units will be above 1200 square feet, 35% of them
will be 945 square feet, 'We don't feel that the right of the
applicant to invest his own money and experiment with 18 one -bedroom
.homes is an unreasonable request considering it is our money and it is
our development. As long as we do no violence to the health, peace
and safety powers of this City or the standards of development of this
City we do not believe we are building something that falls below that
standard,
These unit sizes were planned
to fit certain available construction materials that would be more
economical to us than going to other construction materials or odd
size timber cuts that might run us more money, We don't feel we are
out of line with what West Covina now has,
There was a question about
the storage of boats. We have guest parking areas and they would be
available for that type of parking. Each unit has a two -car garage
and there is space for them to store a boat or trailer in their garage,
There was also a question about
what degree of privacy is being made available to people. Each of these
homes will have a private patio in connection with it and we feel that
that is a degree of privacy that is of great benefit.
As far as density is concerned,
I have another chart, (Presented chart and explained same,) I think
there are more usable areas in the Home Savings and Loan addition to
spread these 2,260 people over than there would be in the City of West
Covina to spread the 67,000 persons over because we have no lost land
in that area, I think if you compare grosses you can readily see we
are not in any way out of line with the standards you have experienced
in West Covina,
will be happy to answer them,
If you have any questions, I
Mr, William Pereira: I think the Planning Commission's
action in setting a minimum of
950 square feet per dwelling unit makes the construction of one -bedroom
units impractical. It may appear that the elimination of 18 units is
a small matter, It is an important matter to the small group who may
be searching for this specific type of home, We are consistently and
diligently striving to create a fine residential complex. We feel that
successful master planning must take recognition of a wide range of
human desires and correlate them with sensitivity and the end product
must be a fine environment in which all components are combined in
rich living, I urge you to consider this 950 square foot minimum,
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Mr,, Hersh Evans, I am the vice president of the.
Los Angeles County Federation
of Labor, area district of E1 Monte. I am here asking that you do
grant this variance to the Home Savings and Loan Association for them
to build these homes to eliminate some of the unemployment situation
..we have in the building construction trades, particularly in this area.
We have an enormous amount of people living in this area in the
building construction trades.
IN OPPOSITION
Mrs, Mildred Farnsworth I am speaking as a representative
2104 East Cameron Avenue of the West Covina Homeowners
_West Covina Federation and as an individual
homeowner. I wish to speak
in opposition to the precise plan and the zone variance.
West Covina has been referred to
as the City of Beautiful Homes. I believe a city should always be
defined in terms of its people. West Covina is a City of happy,
reasonably satisfied homeowners and in contrast to what the .gentleman
from Home Savings may think about the citizens of this City, many
people made the change to primarily single family residential community
to get away from the noise, confusion and constant proximity to others
which characterizes multiple dwellings. In the recent municipal
election the people of this community in unprecedented numbers
asserted their satisfaction with West Covina as a family -type
community and they rejected any move toward changing its character as
such. They still feel that way and the same people still live here.
The term "family -type
community" cannot be taken lightly for we are just that. We have a
very low drop -out rate in our schools. We average a bare 2% compared
with the national average of 25%. It is a commentary on the type of
family life which develops in a community primarily devoted to single
family dwellings. A great number of our residents commute long
distances to come home to an area where it is quiet. We believe the
General Plan stresses the single family house on the single family
lot. You are being asked to approve a precise plan which will
duplicate the high density multiple dwelling conditions most of us came
to West Covina to avoid. Home Savings and Loan is offering a plan
whereby multiple dwellings will outnumber single family residences
by a three -to -one ratio.
What evidence can be offered
to support the need for this overwhelming growth in multiple units?
The facts are that it is almost impossibe to pass by any apartment
house in the City which does not have a "Vacancy" sign. According to
the San Gabriel Apartment House Owners Association the multiple dwelling
vacancy rate in this City is 20 It should be obvious that the people
• who wish to live in West Covina prefer individual homes and not the type
of dwelling which is represented in multiple zoning.
How can Home Savings and Loan
hope to make its program salable to people who are accustomed to the
high residential standards of West Covina? The fact of the matter is
that these are apartment -type structures sharing a common wall, built
end on end, row on row, not too unlike some of the tenament areas in
the large cities of the east. I believe the people of the City of
West Covina are opposed to this.
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HOVr 'SAVINGS & LOAN - Continued
Although no need for this type
of development can be established, let us consider what possible
advantages might be claimed for this project,, Much has been made of
the common green area.and its recreational value,, This is an unfenced,
unsupervised play area and it is as far as 600 feet away from some of
the dwelling units, well beyond observation from the window. I would
not.permit my youngsters to play under such conditions. Even for
older children there are recreational problems,, There is a 7% grade,,
Where are the activity areas? In postage -stamp patios and a town house
slightly larger than my garage This can hardly be considered an
improvement over the traditional backyard.
I object to the use of the term
"town house",, I think to the average person the term "town house"
connotates a concept of luxury well beyond the limits of most of us
and I think you will all agree that structrues that run under 950
....square feet could hardly be considered luxurious. As far as I'm
concerned this is misleading and I would like to remind members of the
Council that corporations in some areas of business which seek to mislead
the public are considered to violate the law,,
We are told Home Savings and Loan
represents a unique treatment of land advanced in its thinking,, The
fact is that for this area this is an experiment admittedly by the
gentleman from Home Savings and Loan,, If this development fails the
worse which can happen to Home is a series of tax vi-ite-offs but to
the City of West Covina failure can mean a slum of major proportions
with all of the problems of police and fire protection.' health, public
assistance, et cetera, which are attendant thereon -- a monument to
poor judgement.
We suggest as you consider this
precise plan you ask yourselves these questions? Is there a genuine
need for this type of development in the City? We challenge Home
Savings and Loan to prove.this,, What could this type of development
do for our community? Nothing good and potentially much damage.
Is this plan in the best interest of the City as defined in the
General Plan? We submit that it is not. Is this what the people of
West Covina want? The answer is "No". If your replies to these
questions concur with ours we believe you will reject the variance
and the precise plan as proposed by Home Savings and Loan and retain
the high type of residential standards of the City of West Covina,,
Mr,, Chuck Dowding I am Chairman of the West Covina
1605 South Belmont Homeowners Federation,, I would
West Covina like to initially read into the
record a letter from our Planning
Director, Hal Joseph, to the City Manager, subject Home Savings and Loan:
"The proposed hearings on the Home Savings and Loan precise plan,
variance, are set before the City Council on January 11, 1965,, The
Planning Commission has made certain conditions on the proposal which
are deemed to be totally acceptable,, On Tuesday, December 15, I
talked to Graham Ritchie, Dick Harbour and Ray Widmark, who represent
Home Savings and Loan,, They were advised by this office to prepare a
revised precise plan showing all the conditions imposed by the Planning
Commission They said they could not prepare such a plan and an appeal
was to be taken to the City Council,, This is to advise you that unless
Home Savings and Loan prepares such an amended plan the Council will not
have the opportunity to see an illustration of what the Planning Com-
mission approved,, This may make the Council evaluation more difficult,"
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I am very sympathetic to that
point of view. It makes my job very difficult, too, because I am
appealing the precise plan that was passed by the Planning Commission
with certain conditions and I am not in a position to really evaluate
it because the evidence is not here tonight o
I have a further problem and
that is with the precise plan that we.are talking about. I don't
think the City has a precise plan and I would like somebody on the City
.staff to define in terms of our ordinance what is our precise plan
here tonighto The ordinance has some very specific requirements with
...respect to the precise plan and I want to know what it is so I can talk
to itc
City Attorney, Mr,, Williams:
Mayor Snyder:
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Heath:
Mayor Snyder:
Planning�Dir:ector, Mr. Joseph:
plan. The drawing that was originally
Commission was this one (indicating).
one referred to as phase one happens to
Commission and it is blown up.
This is up to you. This is nbt
the purpose of the hearing.
What is the desire of the Council?
I think we have a precise plan
before us. There is no question
in my mind.
We have the Planning Commission's
action on it.
Mr. Joseph, would you give us
the requirements of a precise
plan?
(Read section of code relating
to required showing of a precise
submitted to the Planning
Along with the tract map and the
be the same.as was before the
Mr. Chuck Dowding: Tonight a new set of figures
was introduced on the unit
size. Originally in the report there was one set of figures. Then
at the Planning Commission hearings unbeknown to the public, another
set occurred and now we have a third set tonight that does not
correspond to the set given to me by the Planning Director. This has
characterized this application right through.
I was most concerned on Mr.
Ritchie's remark about the second and third -phase. They don't want to
be completely tied to the second and third phases and our ordinance
says a precise plan in every detail is supposed to be supplied. In
my opinion, the procedures here have been illegal.
(Presented renderings and
explained same.) At all times they have claimed in terms of their town
house development that they were in effect developing single family
hones, they were not developing apartments. I want to show you just
the way the market has developed here in West Covina in the past four
years. We took through 1961 and 1964 every subdivision and plotted
the area of the units, well over a thousand. The smallest unit recorded
is 1183 square feet and there are about 60 of them in the Pickering
Tract. All others exceed this number. (presented charts and explained
same.)
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like to address to the Council,,
own devices,, These are questions
questions we are interested in,
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I have a few questions I would
They can answer them through their
that I would like to ennumerate,
In terms of the golf course, the
golf course shown on the General Plan amendment shows a box -type
relationship with single family homes in the middle,, The precise plan
course shows a different -relationship. We wonder why,, Regarding the
Little League park, we don't quite understand why this is not a general
park,, We would like to know why specifically a Little League park,,
This empty spot shown on the precise plan right in the middle of the
precise plan, this is not part of the precise plan but it seems to me
a little discussion of what the developers have in mind there would
help us make a better decision,
Mayor Snyder:
Mr,, Chuck Dowding:
that that will be R-1 for all time
blow up does not correspond to the
case where the original submittal
submittal and no public notice was
Right now there is R-1 on the
property you mention,,
I understand that. If the
developer would like to say
that would be interesting. This
original submittal. This is another
doesn't agree with the amended
made of it,,
In my opinion, the representative
government has been on trial since Home Savings and Loan came in, We
have an Area District I, 7500 square feet. Now we are asked to accept
some 4600 some square feet, when you distribute all the green area
around each unit. Look at the parking storage that Mr. Jett brought
up, In our average R-1 home we have a two -car covered garage, a
driveway up to the garage and we have storage space on the street.
If you add this up you are going to have room for anywhere from six
to nine cars without impeding traffic flow,, What do you have in this
complex? You have two plus point something. This is a subversion
of our West Covina standards and we are very disappointed that Home
Savings and "Loan would come up with something like this,
In answer to the labor man's
concern about this development, we are very sympathetic to his point
of view. The only reason we are here is we want to maintain West
Covina's standards and we would like to proceed to develop the property
on that.basis,,
Mr, Ed LaBerge What concerns me is not the
20510 Rancho San Jose Drive merits or the demerits of the
entire development but the
procedure that is being followed here, I have been here quite a few
times before you and I am amazed that a development of this kind can
be put in a area of this kind with this many variances. I take issue
with the gentleman who spoke about the year and a half of preparing
plans in that he wasn't aware of the changing tempo of the City of
West Covina and their Planning Department, I have been very aware of
it for the last two years, I am amazed that the Planning Commission
has approved a project of this magnitude with six variances where they
had ample acreage to reduce the number of units and fall into the R-2
catagory, There is plenty of time to throw this, back at Home Savings
and have them redraw the plan so they don't need all these variances.
This is going to establish a precedent for other developers in the area
who will come in with the same plea as to reduced size of units,
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Mrs. Marjorie Gaines
914 West Barbara
West Covina
statement to read before this Council,,
Page Fourteen
My portion of the Federation's
presentation is actually Charles
Anderson's. He was unable to
be here tonight but gave me his
"I would like to make it quite
clear that as a home owner and as a representative of the homeowner
group in opposition this opposition is not for the sake of contrariness,,
We believe in a philosophy of surburban western living,, Over 60,000
people were lured to West Covina by this philosophy -- a fine community
of single family residences. In a short space of time we saw this
headed for disaster by a previous City Council,, I firmly believe it
is either inherent in man or middle class man has been inculcated with
a.desire to acquire a home of his own,, The Home Savings plan is not
palatable to the majority of the West Covina citizens.
"During World War II our family
was fortunate enough to qualify for and gain dwelling space in a housing
project,, This had row housing and common greens. Because of clever
architectural design and planting of shrubs and trees this project
avoided the appearance of a military barracks. The inhabitants were
a fair cross section of people who tried to make the best of the
situation and yet this situation became more and more undesirable
because westerners are not accustomed to this communal -type dwelling.
The common goal of almost every family was to accumulate a stake so
they could move away,, Why? Usually the little disruptive things
which can occur in a neighborhood center around children,,
"In our present neighborhood
disagreements can be quickly countered by sending the children to
the other end of the block or they can play in their own yard. With
row housing when you step out of your house you are automatically in
everyone's yard,,
"Let us not experiment with
an idea which is far from new. Let us not be the proving ground for
saving in home building for Home Savings and Loan,, It is already a
provable economic fact that great savings will accrue to the builder
and can likewise be demonstrated that people become more volatile
and unstable when packed too closely together,, The small owners find
themselves involved in a struggle against a billion -dollar organization.
We look to you to protect and defend our way of life.
"The homeowners will be
grateful in your vote in opposition to this fantastic increase in
density for our City."
Mr. Ralph Goldstein I am very deeply disturbed by
1546 Cameron Avenue this whole concept that has been
West Covina introduced by Home Savings and
I don't go along with it.
They show 1320 feet, 1360 feet, but these are four -bedroom homes,,
I don't want that in West Covina. Mr,, Dowding has given you what the
standard is, what has been done up to date. These fall so far below
that that any reasonable person can see that at a glance. The last
development in a city should be the finest and this is not that.
They have no right to expect not to have any conditions. They know
what the R-2 ordinance says. They went right ahead on their own without
any basis or thought given to our zoning and requirements and asked
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for variances,, You have a duty as Councilmen not to just pass things.
There are ways to bring a matter of this importance to the public and
get their approval. This is a new housing development, a new concept
that involves an area one-half or one-third the size of the present
City, This is too much dismissed with a few people getting up here and
talking, I say something of this significance should be submitted to
the people by referendum and you have that perfect right and duty in
a situation like this. They are not coming in here asking for a minor
variance which you can grant or not grant, Every violation of the
existing zoning laws that you worked so hard to put into effect --
if they want this much variation_, let them to go the people. If not,
it is going to the people by referendum and this is not a threat to
the.Council but I think we are beyond the point of just talking nicely,
I am speaking practically, We all know you have coming up on the
next election your civic improvement thing --
Councilman Krieger: I don't see any relevance to
this issue. We have a precise
plan, a variance and a tract map before us. Bonds have nothing to
do with this,
Mr, Ralph Goldstein: I will withdraw from that
discussion, I think we have
to be practical, too, and I think if you are going to allow this pre-
cise plan to come �n it must be done with the minimum restrictions put
in by the Planning Commission, If you are going to put it in why
not put it in with a limitation of a small first phase as Councilman
Krieger first suggested when the zoning matter was up? Why can't they
go ahead and develop onthis--this Rm2 on a small experimental basis?
They said they had to do it all at one time but I say they have 165
acres of golf course, so many acres of R-1 and the acres of R-2 and
multiple will allow them to do just about everything. If you are going
to allow a precise plan tonight, limit it to a small section for this
R-2 and that is the only thing that should be allowed.
They say they have 11,20
per acre average gross. I am not interested in gross; I am interested
in what is going on with this R-2, They are going to have 3,000
people living in 54 acres of town houses. If you divide that up,
that is 60 persons per acre. Is this single family residential? I
say it is not and I don't want to see this in West Covina,
There is one answer they
haven't come up with. If they are appealing and don't want this
minimum size unit, are they going to accept it if you require it of
them?
(Mr. Williams left the chambers at 9:30 P,M, Mr, Newell entered
the chambers at 9:30 P.M,)
• REBUTTAL
Mr, Graham Ritchie:
If we had developed this thing
the way it was originally
zoned by the City Council and we had gone in there with bulldozers and
carved up the hillside and built the R-1 and developed it on 7500 on
up to 14,400, we would have come up with a total of 59782 dwelling
units. What we have done is tried to get some imagination into this
development, tried to preserve some of the topography that exists
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Page Sixteen
there and we have decreased the density that we were originally granted
by this City Council. We have spent a good deal of time in planning
to try to come up with something a little bit different. We have done
it in complete concert with the staff and the Planning Commission and
the Council and we have tried to keep you informed as we have gone
along as to what this development was going to be. I think we have
dealt in good faith throughout and I think we have kept all of the
bargains and agreements we have ever made and I think you have every
..reason to think we will continue to do so. We feel it is a good
development and it is unfortunate that some people think it is slums.
Aside from -Mr. Dowding, who I. recall has been very willing.to,.plan
other people._!s.property for them, I represented the clients -who
.owned property -:on Glendora Avenue and after- the City spent.,good money to
-get studies -by D;,;M.J.M. and after your staff reviewed that -study, everyone
was surprised to find stilla third study presented for Glendora Avenue,
Councilman Krieger: Along the same contexts we are
not discussing Mr. Dowding or
his past performance. We are discussing a precise plan and a variance.
Mr. Graham Ritchie: You are correct. I am saying
this: We have met all the
requirements of your Police Department, your Building Department, your
Health and Safety Department, your Planning Department; we have met
all of the requirements that would protect this City. We have attempted
to work within the framework of your zoning laws and your building
laws and we have conceived a plan we think is workable. We are willing
to invest our money in that plan. We think we have a right to have
some little area in which we can do our own planning. We appreciate
the effort of others to try to tell us what will sell and what will
not sell. Within the limits of what is reasonable and consistent
and within -the limits of what is safe and proper under your existing
laws we think we have some right to try to be original, to try to
experiment with our own money, to try and derive a profit based upon
our own originality as long as we don't do any violence to the basic
concepts of this City. We don't feel this plan does violence to the
basic concept of this City.
There has been a continual
effort to take one phase of the first increment and compare it and
this phase of this increment is one of the densest proposals we have.
As we go north the density decreases and there is a deliberate effort
to distort what we are trying to do here. I think the only valid
comparison is to develop a general plan so you would be able to compare
the entire development with the entire City. Unfortunately, that
General Plan was not adopted but in our minds we are developing
consistent with it and when you draw meaningful comparisons they have
to be in terms of the total proposal. We are not adding to the overall
density of the City. We do have one phase of one increment which is,
if you compare it to all of West Covina, is denser. These are not
meaningful comparisons at all. We are talking about an overall
development and it should be treated that way.
If we meet these standards
and we make a bona fida attempt to do something useful with this land
then I think we should be afforded the opportunity to take some of the
risks ourselves and not have the entire thing in terms of aesthetics,
in terms of economics, in terms of the,type of people who will live
in these houses dictated by other people who would plan our property
for us. I think we have presented to you a reasonable precise plan.
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I don't think we are doing any-
thing illegal here as has been suggested,, We are not dealing with a
plot of land that will take 180 units,, We are talking about 1800
acres of land,, There has to be some give and take. We need variances
because you don't have a zone that considers a total development of
1800 acres,
On the precise plan, although
we feel wehave complied with your ordinance, we don't feel it is
practical to precise the entire thing at this time and it has been
.the advice of your City Attorney to me that it is not necessary to
do so. All we are asking this Council is to allow us the flexibility
to develop this thing with some degree of flexibility. We arq asking
you to permit the development based on the distribution of unit sizes
.which have been before you for'a long time and which are not new
evidence in any way.
We have worked long and hard
to come up with this and I think we did have the right to expect a
little more from the Planning Commission than just two minutes'considera-
tion of this and that is really all that happened. After a long
discussion of the entire precise plan and variance somebody said they
didn't like the unit sizes and someone said "let's set them" --
Mayor Snyder:
this during the 15 minutes that you
spend a great many hours considering
to correct that impression,
The Planning Commission and the
Council don't only consider
are appearing before us,, We
these things and I would like
Mr,, Graham Ritchie: They had a mass of material and
I am sure that they read it all
but for the first time in the last couple of minutes in the
consideration of this proposal, this new proposal was advanced to us.
If it had been advanced to us prior to the Planning Commission hearing
we would have explained to the Planning Commission why -we couldn't
possibly live with that mix of unit sizes. It wasn't explained until
after the Planning Commission hearing was closed. We got trapped by
the very nature of the proceedings. The hearing was closed. We
were left with no alternative but to appeal,
There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed,
councilman -Heath. Mr, Ritchie, in your rebuttal
you stated something concerning
the density of your development if developed in R-1 versus this present
plan. Could you refresh me on that?
Mr, Graham Ritchie: If we build under the existing
zoning it permits a total of
59782 houses,, Based upon the same formulas for occupancy we produce
212971 persons which is approximately 1,500 more than the number of
persons that are proposed based upon this proposal which involves
69684 units but overall fewer people per unit. Our population is
209262.
Mayor Snyder: That is if you build the rest
of the 1800 acres according to
the General Plan you proposed?
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Mr,, Graham Ritchie: That's right,,
Councilman Nichols: Mr,, Ritchie, something I have
not understood from the very
beginning and I think it is germaine, is Home Savings and Loan 'going
to actually cause this development to come into being by their own
direction? That is, are they going to do the construction of this
project?
Mr,, Graham Ritchie- They are going to do the
subdivision,, They are going to
loan the money for the construction and they are, presumably, going
to have it built by general contractors but they will subdivide the
entire property,,
Councilman Nichols- They will have control of the
titles until such time as they
are sold to individuals?
Mr,, Graham Ritchie- They must until 500 of them are
sold,,
Councilman Nichols- Does Home Savings intend and have
they stated to you their intent
to maintain such direct control over the total development of the entire
1800 acres of this.property that they hold presently in the City of
West Covina?
Mr,, Graham Ritchie- They intend to develop the
entire development,, They will
not sell off portions of it and they are going to be there holding the
paper on what they have sold for many, many years to come,,
Councilman Nichols- I know they will be holding the
paper,, They will be doing the
entire subdivision of all 1800 acres?
Mr,, Graham Ritchie- That's right,,
Councilman Krieger- How about this Condition No,, 4
on the variance about which
I asked the Planning Director, the reversion of title?
Mr,, Graham Ritchie: There won't be a reversion of
title because it isn't that kind
of a condominium,, They will build it themselves. If there is any
reversion it will be back to them. This is fee title. As a practical
matter if there is a default the title comes back to Home Savings and
Loan and they then are going to be subject to paying the assessments
for the shares against that -property -for the maintenance of that common
• area We will work out something satisfactory to Mr,, Williams or his
office,,
Councilman Krieger: Do you feel by the nature of
the topography and the size
of the development that this constitutes the satisfaction of the
requirement, for a showing of variances to exceptional or extra-
ordinary circumstances?
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Mr, Graham Ritchie:
Mayor Snyder:
have been other developments
the City,,
Page Nineteen
I think so,, I think you have
a very exceptional and extra-
ordinary piece of land here,,
We have no zone to fit this
type of development. There
built under this variance procedure in
Councilman Krieger: As I understand it in effect
this Variance No,, 520 requests
seven variances from our R-2 zone,, Mr. Joseph, perhaps you can
elaborate on this,, As I read the material and perused the precise
plans it is difficult for you state to us what precise variance
requests are,, For example, front yards in a R-2 require 25-foot setback,,
Are you in a position to say in what way except from nothing to something
the front yard is being varied in this precise plan? They are asking
for a reduced front yard. Assuming that it is adopted as a R-2 zone
they are required to have.a 25-foot setback,, As you look at this it
varies all over the place and this appears to be true with reduced side
yards except where it has a common wall and has no side yards at all.
When we talk about reduced rear yards this varies according to the
particular structure in mind,, Reduced net lot area, this varies also,
does it not?
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph:
Councilman Krieger:
of a minimum lot area of 7500
specifically in R-2 ordinance,,
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph:
Councilman Krieger:
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph:
Councilman Krieger:
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph:
Yes,,
We have in our R-1 ordinance a
requirement in Area District I
square feet but we have no requirement
That's correct,,
Is this all Area District I?
Yes,,
We have a minimum requirement
of lot area of 7500 square feet?
That's correct,,
Councilman Krieger: And this varies on the structures
being developed,, Then we have
increased ground coverage per lot and if we are talking about it as
R-2, our maximum ground coverage is 30% but in this you could only
generalize,, It would depend upon the structure,,
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph: That's right,,
Councilman Krieger: On the reduced size of units
we have had a great�,,,deal of
testimony;-.:Now9 reduced internal driveway width, this appears to be
the difference between 25 and 20 feet,,
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph: Each structure would lie on a lot,,
The lots can get as low as
twenty odd feet by seventy odd feet and the structure fits on the small
lot,
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Councilman Heath-
I think there should be something
brought out here. Typical of a
condominium you usually require a lot equal to the size of the building
or with a six-inch side yard,
front yard or back yard, six inches or
three feet.
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph-
Condominium is a one -lot sub-
. -division covering the entire piece
of property and you sell the air
rights.
Councilman Heath:
What they are doing is putting
a lot here under this house the
same as a condominium.
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph:
Generally speaking, that is
correct. The lot would contain
the house, a parking space, a
patio area, and very little else.
Councilman Heath:
In the County they go six inches
outside of this all the way
around or three feet. I don't
think it is fair to compare a lot
under one of these structures
against an area district lot.
Mayor Snyder:
In the one other similar
application did we have all these
variances?
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph-
The one that comes to mind would
be the Towne House and this is
a similar application as they
asked for.
Councilman Krieger- Going specifically to this
question of density to arrive
at a computation, it seems that individuals appearing before us
decide where they want to go and then uses a nechinism to get there.
More importantly, if I understand what we are trying to do, we are
trying not to take just the physical improvement itself and compare it
to the acre on which it is constructed but to take the town house
and the common green area and the private driveway area and total up
the acreage of the superblock and determine from that by the number
of units to be constructed in essence what the density is.
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph- That is true.
Councilman Jett: In going back to the size of the
unit, I wonder what the
difference is between what is required in Area District I and what is
requested. In your discussion was there any distinction made between
the two -bedroom and the one -bedroom or did you discuss this at all?
• What was the reason for the 950 minimum square footage unit?
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph- I think it has been brought
out fairly well. The Planning
Commission stated that one of their primary concerns in this project
was the dwelling unit size. The Commission determines that in this
area of the City they felt that the dwelling unit size of 950 square
feet which would have been imposed in the area if it had stayed
single family was the minimum size dwelling unit they wanted to see on
this land. The resolution doesn't say 950 square feet. They were
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specific that it shall be the minimum permitted in R-1, Area District I,
They wanted to assure a minimum size of dwelling consistent with the
area and the area district in which it had been placed,
Councilman Jett. -
Planning Director, Mr, Joseph:
Councilman Jett. -
Had this been discussed prior to
this last meeting?
We discussed it previously in
our report in October,
Was it ever discussed in any
of the meetings?
Planning Director, Mr, Joseph.- I can't say that it wasn't; I'm
sure it was, To the depth
that it was, I can't say without referring back to the Minutes,
Councilman Jett.- At what point should we
determine the size of the unit
is my question. In my opinion, thinking ofa one -bedroom versus a
two or three -bedroom, that this could certainly have a bearing upon
the size of the total unit. I can't see why we would require them to
build as big a one -bedroom house as we would require them to build a
two -bedroom house. I think it is reasonable to assume that someone
might want a one -bedroom,
Councilman Krieger.- Mr, Ritchie, can you explain
the differences between your
feelings between the analysis of floor area and what --
Mr, Graham Ritchie.- Someone did a chart and didn't
do it correctly. The difference
is in the number of unit column and they prepared the chart from a
previous suggested distribution of units but your "a", "b", "c" types
still average out at 945 square feet, The balance would average out
at 1210 instead of 1205,
Councilman Krieger.- There is no relative difference
between this chart we have
been given tonight and the chart that appears in the Planning
Commission's memo of December 4, 1964, is there?
Mr, Graham Ritchie.- No,
Councilman Jett.- Apparently 67,000 population was
based on the General Plan
projections for 1970. Did that take into consideration additional
annexations?
Planning Director, Mr, Joseph.- No,
Councilman Jett: I don't know how much undeveloped
land we have in the City at the
present time or how nearly this will ultimately come to our ultimate
development; however, in your opinion would this 10% per acre versus
ll,2 per acre in the Home Savings development, is that an accurate
figure?
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Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: Based upon the information at
our disposal, it is. This is a
reasonable estimate based upon statistics from the U. S. Census based
on dwelling unit habitation.
Councilman Jett: There was a question tonight
as to the validity of this being
a precise plan. Mr. City Attorney, is there any question, in your
opinion, as to whether this is or is not a precise plan?
Acting City Attorney, Mr. Newel: Mr. Williams discussed this
matter with you. If the
increment is going to be similar all throughout the precise plan can
so limit it. This fills out the requirements of a precise plan in
my opinion relating to the first increment.
Mayor Snyder,. Mr. Ritchie, how large are your
patio areas and if an owner
wants a larger patio area is it available to him?
Mr. Joseph Bell: All units have one patio; half
of the units have two patios.
The size is a minimum of ten -by -ten and up from there. There
couldn't be a great deal of increase.
Mayor Snyder:
Mr. Joseph Bell:
Mayor Snyder:
Do you have a separate utility
system for each unit?
At this point, the answer is
yes.
Parking other than that in the
garage --
Mr,, Joseph Bell: There are two -car garages
enclosed for every unit and in
addition in the first phase of the first increment which has been
precised more than another, there are 126 open spaces for guests
and for storage use such as boats.
Mayor Snyder,. Is there any restriction on
the common area not being
buildable without an additional precise plan?
Mr. Joseph Bell: These lots will be in fee.
Mayor Snyder: Any further building or design
of the common area will require
a further precise plan?
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: There is a certain amount of
ground coverage that must be
maintained. If they put a building on the property this would decrease
the amount of open space and the Planning Commission resolution stated
that if this is done we have to report back to the Planning Commission
in writing of any such change in the precise plan for their review
before it is done.
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Mayor s nyder-.
Page Twenty -Three
Mr. Dowding, how many homeowners
groups are in your federation?
Mr. Chuck Dowding-. Sevens
Mayor Snyder-. How many of these seven voted
by authorized representative
and according to the bylaws to support your presentation?
Mr, Chuck Dowding-. All of the federation members
have been polled many -times
on the presentation.
Mayor Snyder-. Are you the authorized represerita®
tive to vote?
Mro Chuck Dowding: Yes.
Mayor Snyder-. You drew a chart in comparison
with minimum and average floor
sizes and this comparison was made with those subdivisions recently
built.in West Covina. Did you include in these figures any subdivisions
in the County or La Puente or any neighboring cities surrounding this
development?
Mr..., Chuck Dowding:
this distribution significantly and
weighting.of the neighborhood. This
The Pickering Tract is in there
in its entirety and weights
that reflected West Covina's
is all West Covina information.
Mayor Snyder-. There is no information in there
as to the size of some of the
developments around this area in other cities?
Mr. Chuck Dowding-.
Mayor Snyder. -
in the County and La Puente and in one
size of 19000, et cetera.
Nothing but West Covina.
I have some figures here from
developments surrounding
the lot size is 6,380 with a unit
Councilman Krieger-. With respect to discussion, I
would like to make the following
remarks and I will attempt to keep this suoO-inct because I can't
believe this Council has lived with this matter so long without each of.
us drawing some impressions as to how we feel about this.
I was struck by a remark Mr.
Ritchie made saying they intend to develop the first phase of the
first increment first and then they may not wish to be tied to it.
• Philosophically I feel somewhat along the same lines. With respect
to the zoning which is up for adoption tonight, the Council is well
aware of the statements that I made with respect to the granting of
the entire zone change to R®2 as it effected the first increment.
Basically, I think we are faced here with the variance and the
precise plan with a philosophical question having to do with what
we are familiar with, the conventional grid pattern or the checker-
board approach as contrasted as was presented to us as having merit,
the superblock. I would be in favor of a controlled experiment in
R®2 as I expressed to the Council when the zoning was before us.
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I am still in favor of a controlled experiment because that, to my way
of thinking, is the only way in which this concept can be fully tested
objectively by each of us, I would like to further comment with respect
to the variance and the precise plan,
I intend to maintain as much
consistency as it is humanly possible to do in weighing these matters
and therefore with respect to the variance and the precise plan I will
be in favor of and I will vote to approve the variance and the precise
plan as it applies only to the first phase of the first increment and
as. originally proposed by the applicant with respect to minimum require-
'
mentso. More specifically, to extract from the resolution of the
_.Planning Commission and the conditions imposed by the Planning Commission
the.minimum square footage per unit and the minimum of 500 of the units
be in.excess of 1200 square feet again in specifically in favor of
the first phase of the first increment upon the conditions of the Planning
Department with the exception of the minimum dimentions,
Councilman Heath:
Planning Director, Mr, Joseph:
Councilman Heath:
You are talking now of that
upper section?
The only blow up before us.
For point of clarification,,
are you in favor of the Ra-1
development?
Councilman Krieger: The R®1 development is not
before us in either of these
matters, The variance is confined to the R-2,
Councilman Heath: Most of the variance covered
on this precise plan is level
but there is some of it which is rolling and rough and must be leveled
off. Economically the only way they could develop the terrain was
to do all of it at one time and also to do their construction econo-
mically they would like to do it all at one time, I think we should
keep this in mind because it is working an additional hardship on the
people, I believe there should be a test made to see if this project
is going to go. It is adjacent to 1600 acres which these people own
and I don't think they will put something in here knowingly that would
ruin the other acreage,
In light of the fact of the
terrain and how it must be leveled and worked I don't see how we can
limit it on one small section, As far as my feeling is concerned
on this precise plan and variance I feel that the imposition of
950 square feet minimum is a hard thing to live with especially on
a one -bedroom home, However, I would agree with the Planning
Commission on this. On the 1250 square feet as specified by the
Planning Commission I believe I would go along with this recommendation,
also, It seems the biggest controversy we have is concerning density
and from the evidence presented here tonight the statements against
the density are reversed, They have testified that the density will
be lighter under this plan than it would develop under R®1. My feeling
would be that we uphold the recommendations of the Planning Commission
1000,
Councilman Jett: In your opinion do you feel a
one -bedroom house should be
equally as large as a two -bedroom house?
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Councilman Heath: No,,
Mayor Snyder: I think the biggest bone of
contention here is the density
involved,, I have spent many hours pouring over this problem, have met
with both sides regarding this problem with supposedly new evidence,,
I don't feel I was ever presented new evidence, only a different way
of looking at the figures. Much was made over the fact there was
a great increase in multiple on the General Plan but little point was
made.that these large percentages were confined to a very small
increment of the total being discussed and therefore did not have that
much.effect on the total picture, of not only this development but
the City as a whole,, I think the more you look at these figures on
density the more you become confused and you have to look at the whole
picture,, I think the figures arrived at here tonight indicate that
this development in total is comparable with the City of West Covina,,
In every analysis I can make this leads me to believe that the zoning
this density proposes is in line with the General Plans and the goals
of the City of West Covina,, I do not feel that this is out of line
with the General Plan but in fact supports it,,
Getting to the discussion of
need for this type of development, I would like to say that this may
appear to.be an experiment but I don't feel it is. This type of
planning had been advocated by many leading planners throughout the
country who desire to break away from the old boring grid pattern and
find a way to make better use of the land, housing available to all
family types with regard to size, -and age and economic level of the
family. I think this type of planning tends to develop housing
which is versatile enough to fill the needs of all these family
types as well as to fill the needs of the individual desires and still
allow the individual to have individual home ownership which is of
,uch quality and value that it is liquid enough so people -may sell
and move on as their needs change,, In other words, it is in their
interest to maintain the quality of this type of development; it is
in the developer's interest to maintain the quality of this develop-
ment,
I would like also to point
out that Southern California, not only West Covina, but the whole
of Los Angeles County, could not have been built without the savings
and loan and other lending institutions,, The people from the lowest
laborer are now able to buy a home and buy a home of good quality,
a'home that is liquid as stock is liquid and maintains its value,,
These people have not built Southern California for the purpose of
building slums and I don't buy that argument that anybody is intending
to build a slum here. It is in their interest to build a quality
development,, I think it is in their interest to build for permanence
and I think it is in their interest to build a balanced city,, I
think this is what they intend to do,, This plan has been supported
by the Planning Commission, the Planning staff; the conditions have
been set down and approved by all the City departments9 there have
been other home owners groups who have spoken out in favor of this
plan and I think it is in conformance with the good planning principles
and again with the General Plan of the City of West Covina,, I couldn't,
with good conscience, do anything but say that I feel that this plan,
if developed as proposed here, is a good one,,
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H011E SAVINGS 8 LOAN Continued
Getting down to the point of
the minimum size in the first increment, I think to allow the developer
that flexibility of design to be'able to appeal to the different groups
he hopes to attract in this development that he should be able to build
according to this schedule as laid out here (indicating). The area of
the 808 square footage and 978 square footage is in the minimum number
of units and I do feel there is a need for this type of unit if. balanced
against.the whole plan. If it can be done I would like to confine it
to the first phase of the first increment.
.Councilman Jett: I think we are fortunate in
having a developer who has as
large a tract of land as this and will be the one and only developer
..in that parcel of land. We have watched the City of West Covina grow
up.under a diversified number of ownerships and we have not had one
large owner to develop a large enough tract to bring in the business,
the multiple dwellings and everything and I think this is going to
be something that is really planning something over-all and not just
one or two little units.
Councilman Nichols: The first testimony I heard
about the Home Savings and Loan
development involved some statements that pointed to the real motivation
for this type of development in my mind in any way, the gentleman
who testified said it would mean less streets and less utilities, less
of this, less of that, In.short, less,co.st to the developer and more
profit to him and I say I am all for the free enterprise system. I
don't challenge the motivation of any Councilman or question their
sincerity of decision. It has been .stated primarily that the
objection seemed to be based on density. I think they are there but
I think the strongest objection I have is simply that I object to the
concept of this type of housing for the City of West Covina, I want
to go on record on that. I feel obligated to go on record'�to that
effect tonight without making,a big production of it. Perhaps I
will be proved wrong in the future; perhaps somebody else will.
I could not do otherwise than state the basis for my objection.
One final point. Again we see
here tonight the rather unusual situation of many many Minutes being
given to testimony relative to the request for not one variance but
for multiple variances and practically no discussion about these
variances. Only one brief question was asked of Mr. Ritchie and
that was regarding these reduced side yards, et cetera, did he
feel they met the requirements of a variance and he said he did. I
do not feel this applicant meets the requirements for a variance.
Councilman Heath: Move that Variance No. 422 be
approved subject to the
conditions as stated in Planning Commission Resolution No,, 1718.
Councilman Jett.- I couldn't go along with that
on the size of the units.
Mayor Snyder: The motion dies for lack of
a second.
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Page Twenty -Seven
Councilman Heath: Move that Variance No,, 520 be
approved subject to the conditions
imposed in Planning Commission Resolution No. 1718 except Conditions
No, 6 and 7, and in accordance with Exhibit No. 1 and the schedule
contained thereon of the first increment,,
Councilman Krieger: I would offer.an amendment to the
motion as to restrict the
approval of the variance to the first phase of the first increment
only and to modify each and every condition of the Planning Commission
Resolution No,, 1718 as may be inconsistent therewith,,
Councilman Heath-,
Councilman Jett:
Action on Councilman Heath's motion:
Nichols voted "no",,)
I will so amend the motion and
accept the amendment,,
Itwill second the motion with
the amendment.
Motion carried,, (Councilman
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that Precise
Plan of Design No,, 422 be approved subject to the conditions listed
in the Planning Commission Resolution No,, 1719 except Conditions No,,
7 and 8,.and in accordance with Exhibit No,, 1 and the schedule contained
thereon.of the first increment, the first phase thereof,,
Councilman Krieger: Is your motion restricted to
the first phase of the first
increment approving the precise,plan with all the conditions of the
Planning Commission except Conditions No,, 7 and 8 and all other
conditions inconsis-±.ent therewith being the restriction of the first
phase of the first increment; is that right? I made that part of my
amendment to your earlier motion because there are certain other
conditions that refer to streets that aren't in the first phase of
the first increment,,
Councilman Heath-, This precise plan on the board
contains three units of R-2,,
In the R®2 is all of the three parts part of the first phase of the
first increment?
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph:
Councilman Heath:
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph:
Councilman Heath:
Councilman Jett:
No,,
This chart only applies to that
one small section on the top?
Yes,,
I will accept the amendment.
The second will accept the
amendment,,
Action on Councilman Heath's motion as amended:
(Councilman Nichols voted "No",,)
Motion carried,,
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Councilman Krieger,, On
to
before we can act on _it consistent with
matters?
Page Twenty -Eight
the tract map isn't this going
require certain revisions
our action on the earlier two
Planning Director' Mr,, Joseph: I believe it would,,
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that Tract No,, 23292 be held over to the regular meeting of the Council
on February 8, 1965 with the hearing closed,,
Councilman Nichols: I want to make a personal comment
directed to those Eof you in the
audience who are here and who spoke in opposition to this matter this
evening,, I think most of you are aware that I have_ throughout the
entire course of this matter remained in opposition to this application,,
.I have spoken like a losing Dutch uncle to my fellow Councilmen but
.I have detected, although I didn't choose to go with it, a considerable
effort on the Council's part to make this development very restricted
and limited in .its initial stages here tonight and I think I can speak
to you in good conscience as one who has for many months upheld the
concepts of West Covina as you and I have come to know it and would
hope to see it continued and I would only say to you that I hope that
any of you who are remaining greatly concerned about this matter will
give great and serious thought to the implications that are involved
in any further discussions that you may have in respect to seeking
petitions and attempting to bring this matter to a referendum in West
Covina at this particular time,,
I could not with this modi-
fication of the first increment as phase one only, even though I do
not support it, I could not in all good conscience personally support
a referendum until I could determine what the development of this
initial phase is I felt I should go on record so that as the group
leaves tonight there can be no misunderstanding of my own attitude
in the past, my attitude now and my attitude in the future,,
VARIANCE NO,, 524
Firestone Tire 6 Rubber Co,,
DENIED
and
PRECISE PLAN NO, 430
Firestone Tire 6 Rubber Co,,
DENIED
LOCATION: Southeast corner of
Glendora and Walnut
Creek Parkway between
Walnut Creek Parkway
and Valinda Avenue,,
Request for permission to vary
Zone C®1 to allow an automotive
service center to be placed
therein and request for non-
conforming signs, denied by
Planning Commission Resolution
No,, 1741; request for approval of
precise plan of design for gasoline
-service station, automotive service
center and automobile supply store,
approved by Planning Commission
Resolution No,, 1730, Both cases
called up by Council on 12/28/64,
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"FIRESTONE TIRE 6 RUBBER COMPANY
Continued
City Clerks Mr. Flotten:
Notice of^this public hearing
appeared
in the West Covina
Tribune on January 14, 1965 and
25 notices were
mailed to property owners
in the area,, Also, the mention'of
a gasoline service station should be
omitted.. (Read Planning Commission Resolutions
No,, 2741 and No. 1730.)
Mayor Snyder:
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten:
this application.
Mayor Snyder:
The Council has
Mr,, City Clerk, have you
received any written communications?
I have a letter from Dr. Moser
and he is in opposition to
copies of this letter.
This is the -time and place for
the public hearing.
IN FAVOR
Mr. Harry F, McHugh We have been before you before,,
1228 West. Placentia We desire to construct a Fire®
Fullerton stone facility as shown on the
precise plan that was approved
by the Planning Commission with the deletion of the service station
facilities. This is not unlik& hundreds of Firestone -stores operating
in like communities and shopping centers throughout America. This is
not a service station; this'is not a garage; this is a store and
automotive center. This is in a"commercial zone but bound on one
side by a C®3 and to the rear -by R-4 which is separated by a parking
lot. We don't intend to sell anything that is not permitted in
service stations and other retail stores which are permitted in Cm19
one of which is directly across the street from this location.
We feel this installation will be an asset to this community.
Mr. Thomas H. Carver If you have any questions we
Trippet, Yocum and Ballantine will try to answer themo
Planning Commission Resolution
No. 1470 granted a variance to Mobile Centers, Inc, located on the
south side of Garvey between Azusa Avenue and Juniper Street and the
grounds on which the variance was granted were "The applicants believe
the -uniqueness of their operation would permit such use to exist in
the Cml area. Following a full public hearing the Planning Commission
believes that this type of repair center is somewhat unlike the normal
repair garages. The applicants did supply the Planning Commission
with information which supported their contention that the proper
grounds for a variance have been met. The Planning Commission believes
that it would not be unreasonable to permit this use in this location."
We believe that it would not be
unreasonable to permit our use in this location. It has less effect
upon surrounding areas than a full garage,, It is primarily in its
present form a retail operation, The decisive vote by the Planning
Commission was cast by a member who had not heard the evidence and was
not proper in our estimation,,
Mayor Snyder: I believe the Commissioner
had access to the evidence as
presented.
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Mra Thomas He Carver- —There was no opportunity to read
the testimony that was presented.
There was not'a transcript, The Government Codes Section 11571(a) is
very specific in speaking of administrative agencies that no member that
did not hear the evidence may vote on the decision and we believe that
under that rule and under the general rule of due process of Morgan vs.
U.S.Wag which I am sure the City Attorney is familiar with, 298 U.S. 468
.the one who decides must hear and in this instance there were only
four members deciding who heard the evidence.
Councilman Krieger. We have a reporter and the tape.
Do you have positive knowledge
that the Commissioner who cast his vote did not listen to the tape or
read the Minutes?
Mr,, Thomas H. Carver. The Commissioner that cast the
deciding vote did absent himself
from the hearing room at the second session. As to that I was a
witness.
Councilman Krieger.
Can you answer my question?
Mr. Thomas Ho Carver. As L.recall he stated he did not
hear the evidence because it
wouldn't make any differencebecause he would vote against it anywayo
That is Mr. Gleckman,,
Mayor Snyder- Do we have the Minutes of the
Planning Commission meeting
where this was decided?
Planning Director, Mr, Joseph:
Mr., Thomas H. Carver.
and this was not contested. No
transcript was made in any way.
I'll get them.
That is my recollection. We
raised this point at the meeting
statement was made that he read the
The proposed store is essentially
a retail operation. We feel it would be to the credit of the City of
West Covina. It is compatable with the operations across the street.
We believe it would be an asset. There is a precedent established and
to deny the exception we submit would be unreasonable and would deny
the applicant and other interested parties the rights to which they
would be entitled under the zoning ordinance.
Mr. Thomas Morton We are not making an issue of
10413 Volty Avenue the proceedings before the
Downey Planning Commission, whether
or not they were in order at
this time is not a question here. We are bringing to you what we
think is a proper subject for the variance that has been requested.
We believe the`General Plan that has been adopted by your City should
be followed but like general plans in every city they are subject to
change and variation. I believe in the earlier session you mentioned
that the General Plan had been adopted in 1962 and you have had two
or three years to operate under it. In our City we have this problem
before us where variances are requested and granted. We are the type
of community -store I think you would like in West Covina. This is
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FIRESTONE TIRE 8 RUBBER COMPANY Continued
not something that will be detrimental to the area. It is not
something that will be detrimental to the forward program of your
General Plan There is ample buffer between our location and the
adjoining property. There is a parking lot to the rear which would be
ample buffer plus the distance between the property line and our building
which would be further buffer. There would not be noise, no commotion
of any sort that would create a problem for the doctors involved in this
area. This variance is a proper subject matter; it is in accordance with
the.development of your downtown area and while it may deviate from
your General Plan to some extent your General Plan is a guide and I would
recommend that you look at what we _propose quite seriously.
Mayor Snyder: Mr. Newell, no matter how
the Planning Commission voted
and whether one vote counts now or not, this is a separate hearing
and all of us here are hearing the evidence and we can vote here.
Acting City Attorney, Mr. Newell: If you are going to rule that
Mr. Gleckman could not
properly vote, nothing happened in the Planning Commission and they
.are not properly here and they have to take it back.
Councilman Krieger: Reading from the Minutes of
December 16, 1964, Mr,, Thomas
Carver on Page 10 made the following statement: "May the record
show that the applicant observes that one of the Commissioners was
not present during the entire discussion on this matter. I believe
as a`matter of record he is not therefore qualified to vote at.this
time. I am referring to Mr. Gleckman.
"Commissioner Gleckman: I
appreciate the comments and in no way will it reflect on my opinion.
I don't think testimony given or opinions given by the other
Commissioners would influence me or my decision in any way, I have
read all of the Minutes in this case. I have read the letters and I
was here for the first hearing, I feel quite qualified to speak on
this matter for the simple reason that it has been a point of interest
to me, too, I do feel that the City of West Covina, as far as I'm
concerned, in this particular location, . ." and the rest refers to
his comments on the evidence.
Mayor Snyder: It appears to me Mr. Gleckman
was here during the
presentation of the evidence and read the evidence and the discussion'
is not evidence and he was able to vote.
Mr. Thomas H. Carver: I believe that the reference was
to a prior meeting of November 18
and the record will show at that time Mr. Gleckman was absent and you
have the Minutes of November 18, testimony was taken and the proceeding
was closed. Mr. Gleckman was absent on November 18th.
Mayor Snyder:
But he did say he read the
evidence,
Mr. Thomas H. Carver: He stated he read the Minutes
which is not the same as the
transcript and not the same as hearing the evidence.
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FIRESTONE TIRE 6 RUBBER COMPANY - Continuted
,Mayor Snyder: We have an opinion from the
City Attorney that this does
allow him to vote, He does say he read the Minutes and the evidence
of that meeting which means he reviewed the evidence and was acquainted
with it,
Acting City Attorney, Mr, Newell: And he would therefore be entitled
to vote,
Mayor Snyder: It would be the Council's ruling
that the Planning Commission
acted properly.
There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed,
Councilman Heath: As I understand this, this is a
retail store. In looking at the
precise plan there are doors in the front and doors in the back. I
trust if this station is installed you will do the business that I
expect you to do which would be a tremenous volume and I believe in
the installation of each tire there is a removal of the wheel where you
use the pneumatic wrenches, I don't feel this could be classified
as quiet, do you?
Mr, Thomas.Morton: Yes, I do, We have the same
type stores in other locations
and in areas much more detrimental noisewise than this particular
area would be, -In our own City we have a major hospital that abuts a
major parking lot including a movie theater as well as a major
service station and we have had no complaints from that type of
operation, It only -.takes at most three or four seconds to take off
a bolt of a wheel and using a pneumatic gun it makes very little noise,
Councilman Krieger: I have a recollection of this
coming before us in the form
of a unclassified use permit and there was some query on the Council's
part as to what the primary use of this was. It was the feeling of some
of us that you may call it something else but in fact it was an
automotive repair center and this was the primary use and not a gas
station, There Was vehement protestation of this point and that it
was basically a gas station with a complimentary use, Now we get the
gas pumps taken out and we have in true fact what it is and that is
an automotive repair station. We have this as a request before us on
a variance on C-1. If it would not qualify under the original precise
plan proposal for a gasoline station in a C®1 I hardly can see the
consistencies of our analysis if we therefore say it fits into a C-1
under a variance for an automotive repair station, I think to be
consistent we hive to find the usage the same and the incompatability
the same and therefore I don't see where it satisfies the variance
requirements,
Mayor Snyder: No one has shown the require-
ments of a variance being
satisfied,
Councilman Jett: I think this meets every
possible requirement of a
variance if a variance is needed. In my opinion, a variance is not
needed for this use on'this•particular piece of property, In my
opinion, it is a permitted use in C-1. Firestone stores are in the
retail business, Certainly the Mobile Service Station is a complete
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'FIRESTONE TIRE 6 RUBBER COMPANY - Continued
overhauling of an automobile and
this is
in;C-1 and it abuts R-1 on
two sides to the east and to the
south,
This property is directly
across the street from C-3 which
permits
light manufacturing. On the
other corner there is a service
station
in existence, I don't see how
you can say this doesn't comply
with the
C-1 usages, To me, it does,
Councilman Nichols: As I understand it, this operation
goes beyond.a retail store, that
if it were exclusively a retail store it would -be'totally eligible,
Mr, Morton, what type of automotive products will the store sell?
Mr, Thomas Morton: Tires, tubes, brake linings,
no motor overhauling, mufflers,
Councilman Nichols: It is an automotive service shop
and except for motor overhaul
and basic body framework, transmission work, it is there to replace
various certain limited parts of vehicles when those parts wear out?:
Mr, Thomas Morton. Yes,
Councilman Nichols: You do in this
certain things
that replace parts of those automqbiles that wear out,
correct?
Mr, Thomas Morton:
Yes,
operation install
to automobiles
is that not
Councilman Nichols: It would be my understanding,
Mr. Jett, that this goes beyond
that point of selling an item at retail and becomes in effect no matter
how limited you want to apply it, an automotive center which is not in
the C-1 zone for normal usage and would require a variance,
Councilman Jett:
I couldn't go along with you on
this,
Councilman Heath: I don't know of a gas station
that doesn't change and sell
tires and oil and I don't know of any of them that can exist without
doing brake lining work work. The use here is no heavier than an
ordinary gasoline station, Since they took the pumps out, I don't
have any objection to it. I don't think the operation will be that
heavy for that area,
Mayor Snyder: I would like to see Firestone
come in just as much as anyone
would but I think they haven't shown the requirements for a variance
for this particular location and I don't see how we can approve it
without breaking down our whole variance procedure,
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Krieger:
Planning Director, Mr, Joseph:
Will somebody explain to me how
you prove a variance?
I think 9222,2 does a good job
of that, Mr, Jett,
(Read Section 922'2,2 re variances,)
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'FIRES'TONE
TIRE AND.RUBBER COMPANY
Continued
Councilman
Jett:
I don't see how these things can
be
proven,,
Motion by
Councilman Jett, seconded
by Councilman Heath, that Variance
No,, 524 be
approved, Motion failed
as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Jett,
Heath; Noes:
Councilmen Krieger,
Nichols, Mayor Snyder,
Councilman
Jett:
Move that Precise Plan of Design
No,, 430 be approved,
Councilman
Krieger:
It can't be approved unless the
variance is approved,,
Councilman Jett: I want that to be made a part
of the record. I would like a
vote on it, I still think the precise plan should be approved,
Mayor Snyder: The motion dies for lack of a
second,,
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carriedg that Variance No,, 524 be denied on the grounds that the
elements for .a variance have not been shown,, (Councilman Jett voted
"No", ) .
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carried, that Precise Plan of Design No,, 430 be denied,, (Councilman
Jett voted "No",,)
VARIANCE NO,, 425, REV, 1 LOCATION: Southeast corner of
J. J,, Schlanger Garvey and Vincent,.
DENIED
Request to allow continuation
of an existing non®cohfbrming sign in Zone Cm3, approved by Planning
Commission Resolution No, 1732o Called up by Council on December 28, 1964,,
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten: (Read Planning Commission
Resolution No,, 1732,)
Mayor Snyder: This is the time and place for
the public hearing.
There being no public testimony, the hearing was closed,
Councilman Heath: Let the record show that I called
this up before the Council,,
Since the Planning Commission had reviewed the request the lawsuit has
been settled,, I believe one of the reasons they stated for the
extension was because the lawsuit was not settled,, I cannot in my mind
justify a variance under any shape because I don't know where there
is another sign in the City given this privilege. I also brought it
up because I think the Council should review this as far as the setting
of a precedent,, If this billboard is permitted to remain there and
it is a billboard of a building that can't be built on the site anyway
after the street goes through, we would be compelled to grant the same
privilege to any other vacant lot, I don't think we want to start this,
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VARIANCE AO 425(1) - Continued
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that Variance No, 4259 Revision 1 be denied upon the ground that
evidence of the variance has not been shown,,
ZONE CHANGE NO,, 329 LOCATION: Azusa Avenue, 525 feet
Samuel Oschin 8 W. K. Glikbarg southerly of Francisquito
APPROVED backing to Tract 21078,,
Request to reclassify from Zone R-1 7500 (County) to Zone R-2 (City)
approved by Planning Commission Resolution go,, 1743,,
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten: (Read Planning Commission
Resolution No,, 1743,,)
Mayor Snyder: This is the time and place for
the public hearing,
IN FAVOR
Mr,, Edward Thayer The developer is applying for
C,,S,,T, Engineering medium density. We have filed
Los Angeles with the Planning staff a letter
in which the developer authorized
me to put in that upon successful annexation and rezoning the developer
will dedicate Azusa Avenue without consideration to the County or the
State of Californis, whichever is the recipient
There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed,,
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph: (Gave brief summary of this
matter,,)
Councilman Heath: This is the exact type of
property we created the R-2
zoning for,, It was created for "hardship or handicapped" property,,
Councilman Krieger: Is it the applicant's positron
that upon appropriate request
by the authorized governmental agency that this dedication will be
forthcoming?
Mr,, Edward Thayer: We are in receipt of the
improvement plans, preliminary,
that have been discussed between the County and the State and was
designed to meet those standards,, We understand the arrangements from
the County and the State gave gone ahead and there might be the
possibility of an -:emergency procedure to advance this whole procedure,
Councilman Krieger: Regardless of the procedure
0 that is ultimately followed
it has the concurrence of the applicant as far as the necessary dedication?
Mr,, Edward Thayer: Yes, I'm sure it does. The
applicant is willing to dedicate
this property without consideration after annexation. There is a
letter on file with you to that effect,,
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ZONE 'CHAN73E NOa 329 Continued
Page Thirty -Six
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that Zone Change No. 329 be approved. (Councilman Nichols voted "No",)
ZONE CHANGE NOo 331
Moon's Eastland Flying A
APPROVED
LOCATION: 126 North Barranca
between Garvey and
Workman Avenues,,
Request to reclassify from C-1 to C-2 approved by Planning Commission
Resolution Noo 1744,,
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten: (Read Planning Commission
Resolution No, 1744.)
Mayor Snyder: This is the time and place for
the public hearing,,
IN FAVOR
Mro Gene Marsh: I represent a rent -a -car firm,,
We intend to operate an agency
if this zone change is approved. If you have any questions, I will
be glad to answer them,,
There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed,,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and
carried, that zone Change No. 331 be approved,,
ZONE CHANGE NO,, 332
Leslie W,, Metcalf, M.D.
APPROVED
LOCATION: 751 South Sunset
between Cameron and
Margarita Avenues.
Request to reclassify from Zone R-A to Zone R-P approved by Planning
Commission Resolution No,, 1745,,
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten:
Mayor Snyder:
IN FAVOR
(Read Planning Commission
Resolution No,, 17450)
This is the time and place
for the public hearing.
Mr. Milton E,, Nelson: I submit for your consideration
that in my opinion this location
is suitable for the purpose for which this application is made. It is
not a burden on the area. It is in furtherance of the professional
services. I believe this is the kind of thing that is consistent with
the growing community where we need ever increasing professional
services.
There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed,,
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Councilman Krieger: I'opposed the rezoning of the
parcel immediately to the south
to R-P. Inasmuch as that was the concensus of the majority of the
Council to rezone it to R-P I would feel that it would be consistent
with the past Council action to rezone 'the rest of the property to R-.P.
Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and
carried, that Zone Change No. 332 be approved.
'PLANNING COMMISSION
REVIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
ACTION OF JANUARY 6, 1965
RECREATION 6 PARKS
None
'GENERAL MATTERS
'ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
FRANCISQUITO-VALINDA TRAFFIC HAZARD
So indicated by Mr. Flotten.
(No items called up.)
Mrs,, Barbara Farnsworth We have come down here at the
197 East Allwood Street request of the parents in the
West Covina, vicinity of Valinda and Francis-
quito. We have a bad
intersection there. There have been three children struck down in the
last year: There is an accident it seems like about every ten days.
I think the reason for this is from Lark Ellen to Glendora there isn't
a single stop sign and traffic moves very quickly. The children on
the south side of Francisquito go to Coronado School and cross there
all the time. For almost three years we have called repeatedly because
of accidents. The police in West Covina tell me it is a County matter;
the County tells us it is a West Covina matter. The mothers met.at
my home and we have decided we would like to have a four-way boulevard
stop at that corner and they have sent me to you to ask that if it is
a County corner would you give us your support in contacting the County
with an idea toward having the boulevard stop put in there? If part of
it is West Covina, would you please put something out for us?
. Mayor Snyder: Does the City line run down the
center of the street?
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: We are on the west side. The
County is also doing some street
work in there and we have made a formal request for a possible traffic
signal study in this location. If they can't get traffic signals or a
four-way stop=I asked also for'a' safety light for night visibility.
That request has been formally made.
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'FR'ANCISQUITO-VALINDA TRAFFIC HAZARD'- Continued
Public Services Director, Mr,.Adams: We have an answer and their studies
indicate signals or stop signs
are not warranted and they have taken the,position they will not install
them,
Councilman Heath:
Mrs, Barbara Farnsworth:
Mayor Snyder:
When we have three children struck
down within a year --
Three children within one block,
What does our traffic count show
there? Does it warrant stop
signs under our standards?
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: They do have a Review Board and
this is the one we talked about
at Cortez and Barranca.traffic problem. I think you should make a point
to have this brought up at the Review Board and you women should be pres-
ent on that particular day when this Board hears this case.
Councilman Heath:
Mrs, Barbara Farnsworth:
Wednesday, Do we take those with us?
I would like to see these women
form a petition and get a lot
of signatures on it,
We are preparing petitions and
they will be on the street
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Be sure they get to the right
people, I think Mr. Adams
can help you on this and I will check to get the proper time so you
can appear before the Review Board, They have the power to overrule
the recommendation from the County Road Department,
Councilman Krieger: We can address a letter to the
Review Board like we did on
Barranca and Cortez and ask them to reconsider .as well inasmuch as
it will come from the Council I think it mighthave some evidentiary
effect,
Councilman Nichols: Also, if I may suggest to you
ladies that when you determine
the date of the hearing you might arrange or in advance ask the West
Covina Unified School District Board of Trustees if they would be
willing to direct a letter from the standpoint of the hazard to school
children in that area. I think probably a three-way action of this
sort will give you some help,
Councilman Heath: I would like to know about
that meeting, too,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried,
to authorize the Mayor to write a letter to the Review Board expressing
our concern over the condition of danger at Valinda and Francisquito
Avenues and recommend that four-way stop signs or other traffic controls
be installed immediately,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
Could we send a copy of Mr,
Frank Bonelli?
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FRANChSlUITO®VALINDA TRAFFIC HAZARD Continued
Councilman Heath- I think it should be sent to
Mr,, Bonelli with a cony to the
Review Board,, I would like to amend my motion to that effect,,
Councilman Krieger;
I will accept the amendment,,
Action on Councilman Heath's motion as amended: Motion carried.
MERCED AVENUE EXTENSION
(Rev,, Jones' property)
(Maps were presented and Mr,, Aiassa gave a brief summary of the matter.)
Rev, Jones: We have owned the subject property
some eight years,, During that
period of time we have made an effort to develop several projects but
due to the uncertainty as to whether the street would actually be
aligned and also questions about what the highest and best use of the
property might be, these projects never materialized,, Approximately
three years ago there was a definite decision as to where the street
should go and at that time we put in a request for some zoning,, If
you do not feel this R-A should be included in the R-P, his idea was
that the Skelton property, which the City has purchased, he felt that
a straight line should be drawn right through here (indicating) and
one residential lot with a uniformity of a 70®foot frontage by 174
feet be granted and the rest should be put into professional use,,
At this time you are asking for land in through here (indicating)
in order to develop this street and we would be very happy to donate
the land and pay for our portion of the street improvement which we
understand is curbs and gutters and also six feet of the paving,, .
We are reluctant to make any deed or make any decision regarding it
until the uncertainty of this area over here (indicating) is cleared
up,,. We would rather not be trapped by having three pie -shaped lots
which Mr,, Perreisi doesn't want and Mrs. Leone doesn't want because
the people would have to park in front of their houses and they are the
neighbors on either side,, We have suggested that we will be glad to
buy the Skelton.property from you at the appraised valuation if you
want to sell it and in that way we could all cooperate together on this.
Councilman Heath -
Rev, Jones:
Councilman Heath:
and on the Skelton property you said
the appraised price?
Rev,, Jones:
How large a piece of land is that
you are to donate or dedicate
for street purposes?
34,000 square feet in the street,,
You are willing to put in the
standard participation and deed
you will be willing to buy it at
Whatever you paid for it.
.Councilman Jett: Rev,, Jones, when I was first
elected to the City Council I
was very much concerned about this corner. I was instrumental in
reopening the hearing on the opposite corner there and as a result
it was zoned and a service station was approved for that corner,, As
a result of that we requested from those people if we gave them that
zoning would they be willing to dedicate that property ®m that if they
were given the zoning and the approval of- a service station would they
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Page Forty
be willing to dedicate that property and improve all of it and they
said yes,, Now, at the same time I had lunch with you and we discussed
your corner down there and at the same time you said that you had a
service station you wanted to put on this corner and when you came
before the Council you said you were ready to go on that and that you
would dedicate Glendora Avenue, you would dedicate Merced and improve
it,, None of this has taken place,, You have now sold the property and
the people who have bought it are not obligated to follow through with
what you had led me to believe you intended to do,, In all fairness
to everybody, I think this should be brought out here,, It is all a
matter of record,, Now you come -to us and you say you are willing to
give this if we give you some more zoning,,
Rev,, Jones: To clear the record, I want to
point out one thing,, We haven't
discussed the matter since or any bther matter, have we?
Councilman Jett: No,, We have had no occasion
for it,,
Rev,, Jones: Regarding.your question, Mr.
Jett, at the time that we were
discussing this and Mr. Rhinegruber representing the Richfield Oil
station was very much interested in this corner,, I talked with Mr,,
Joseph and I have all kinds of communications that I can show you and
I am sure his interests in it were very honorable and mine were in
discussing it with you in this vein. I had every intention to sell it.
We had the papers drawn up,, I have a big file on it,, After the zoning
was granted and because they would not deal with us until.we got the
zoning but they gave us their word they would if we got the zoning,,
After we got the zoning and they came down and discussed what they would
have to do in order to get a building permit they found out that the
cost for developing the corner was three times as much as they put into
the average filling station and for these reasons they backed out
but Mr,, Jett I spoke to you in all sincerity and in all honesty regarding
my understanding of what was going to happen,,
Mayor Snyder:
What would be the harm of having
the Planning Commission look
at this zoning request?
Councilman Heath: I see no harm in it,,
Councilman Nichols: I can see no harm in it and I
don't feel it should be a
matter pursued any further before this body this evening ,,
Councilman Krieger: Why didn't you start at the
regular application for a zone change? Planning Commission with a
Rev,, Jones: I have been served with a summons
regarding pruchase of the land
here so I talked with Mr,, Aiassa and I said I thought certainly we
shouldn't enter into some type of condemnation without some type of
discussion about it,,
Councilman Krieger: Hasn't there been an extension
in which to plead?
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Rev. Jones:
Page Forty -One
Yes, to the 31st of this month.
Councilman Krieger: Was there any reason why you are
adverse to filing your application
with the Planning Commission for a zone change?
Rev. Jones:
Not at all.
Councilman Krieger: I think the proper procedure would
be for Mr. Jones' attorney to
make such a request for an extension. If Mr. Jones doesn't have an
attorney I am.sure he can contact Mr. Williams directly.
JUNIOR MISS CONTEST
Mr. Leonard Gleckman: I would like the City Council to
know that as president of the
West Covina Merchants Association that the,Junior Chamber of Commerce
and West Covina Plaza Merchants Association sponsored a Junior Miss
Contest here in the City of West Covina and the girl that won this
contest is appearing in the State-wide contest Saturday night in
Garden Grove and it will be televised on Channel 5 in color from 8:30 to
10:00 and if she should win she will go on to the nationals which will
be in Mobile,:Alabama. Her name,is Ann Kenny,
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
None
CITY ATTORNEY
ORDINANCE N0,, 900
Dome Savings and Loan Association
ADOPTED
The Acting City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
AMENDING THE WEST COVINA
MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE
CERTAIN PREMISES" (dome Savings
and Loan Association.)
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said
ordinance be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Heath, Mayor Snyder
Noes: Councilmen Krieger, Nichols
Absent: None
Said ordinance was given No. 900.
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CITY ATTIRNEY - Continued
ORDINANCE NO, 901 The Acting City Attorney presented:
Garbage Collection "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
ADOPTED CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING SECTION 5313
OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING
TO GARBAGE COLLECTION SCHEDULES"
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance,
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
ordinance be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Kriegera Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder
Noes: None
Absent, None
Said ordinance was given No, 901,
ORDINANCE NO, 899 The Acting City Attorney presented:
Speed Limits "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
ADOPTED CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING CERTAIN
PROVISIONS OF THE CODE RELATING TO SPEED
LIMITS" (Service Avenue, Walnut Creek
Parkway, Badillo Street)
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance,
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, that
said ordinance be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett9 Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said ordinance was given No, 899,
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The Acting City Attorney presented:
Zone Change 327 "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
Eton Investment Corporation CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST
COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE
CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 3279 Eton
Investment Corporation)
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried,
to waive further reading of the -body of the ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced,
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CITY ATTORNEY - Continued
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The Acting City Attorney presented:
Zone Change 330 "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
M. Jo Young, Co M. Brooks CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST
COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE
CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 3301 M. J, Young
and C. M. Brooks)
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and.carried,
to.waive further reading of the body of the ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols,.and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The Acting City Attorney presented:
Amendment No. 68, "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
City Initiated THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE
WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING
TO OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS"
(Amendment No, 68, City Initiated)
Motion by' Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried,,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance,
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced, (Mayor Snyder voted "No",)
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The Acting City Attorney presented:
Tentative Maps of Sub- "AN ORDINANCE OF OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
divisions THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING
CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE WEST COVINA
MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO GIVING
OF NOTICE OF CONSIDERATION BY THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF TENTATIVE MAPS
OF SUBDIVISIONS"
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced,
CITY MANAGER REPORTS
. PROJECT S,D,6509
ENGINEERING SERVICES
CITY BUDGETED PROJECT
APPROVED
Authorize issuance of purchase
design of storm drain, Staff
services - not competitive,)
LOCATION: Service Avenue,
California westerly
to Carmencita.
Accept Engineer's report,
order in the amount of $39200,00 for
recommends authorization, (Professional
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Page Forty -Four
Motion by Councilman.Krieger, seconded by Councilman Jetty to accept the
Engineer's report on Project So Do 6509 and authorize the Director of -
Finance to prepare a purchase order to Evans and Associates in an amount
not to exceed $3,200.00 for engineering services. Motion passed on roll
call as follows:
Ayes- Councilmen Jetty Krieger, Nichols, heathy Mayor Snyder
Noes. None
Absent. None
LANDSCAPING FIRE STATION #5
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Krieger,, that the City
Manager be authorized to go ahead and put in the improvements to landscape
Fire Station No. 5 with the money that has been budgeted for this purpose,
Motion passed on roll call as follows.
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, heath, Mayor Snyder
Noes: None
Absent. None
CONDEMNATION WITHDRAWAL
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa. The Citrus National Bank has ad-
vised us in order to clear the
title it will be necessary that we notify them in writing that we will.
withdraw the condemnation proceedings against the Allsopp property. (Re-
port as follows.)
"The Citrus National Bank has advised us that in order to clear
the title of any cloud, it will be necessary that we notify
them in writing that we will withdraw the condemnation pro-
ceedings against the Allsopp property,"
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to give authorization from the Council to dismiss the condemnation pro-
ceedings and direct the City Attorney to so notify the court in writing.
SPECIFICATIONS FOR SWEEPER
AND FRONT END LOADER
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried,
to approve the specifications for the street sweeper and truck loader
and direct the staff to call for formal bids. (Councilman death voted
ItNolt , )
PARK AND RECREATION CONFERENCE
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa.
tend a meeting of their national
days. It is in the budget.
The Parks and Recreation Com-
missioners would like to at -
park and recreation group for three
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'PARK ANDRECREATION CONFERENCE ®'Continued.
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Motion by Councilman Heath' seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried,
that the Parks and Recreation Commission 'be given permission to attend
the three-day conference of their national group.
NEXT ADJOURNED MEETING
Mayor Snyder: We have a meeting this Wednesday
night with Leeds, Hill 8 Jewett.
I would like to make that an adjourned meeting. I have some things to
bring up.
CITY CLERK
RESOLUTION NOo 3088 The City Clerk presented:
Robert Jo Brown "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTED OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
EXPRESSING ITS APPRECIATION FOR
THE SERVICES OF ROBERT J. BROWN
AND.EXPRESSING SYMPATHY TO HIS
FAMILY ON HIS UNTIMELY PASSING"
Mayor Snyder: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heathy that said
resolution be.adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 3088.
HELICOPTER REQUEST
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten: Mr. James Charter of the Eastland
Businessmen's Association has filed
a request to permit helicopter flights from the May Co. parking lot for the
week of February 22nd.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried,
that said permission be granted. (Councilman Krieger voted "No".)
AFFIRM DATE COUNCIL WISHES
TO RECEIVE AGENDA
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: On Thursday nights it is im-
possible to get all the material
out. According to your own Section 2103 of the City Council Ordinance
it says it has to go out on Friday. Is there any reason why it
should go out on Thursday night? It is not getting out on Thursday.
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DATE COUNCIL WISHES TO RECEIVE AGENDA ® Continued
Councilman Jett:
of the Friday preceding.the meeting,,
to deliver it on Thursdays,,
City Managers Mr,, Aiassa:
Mayor Snyder:
BROTHERHOOD WEEK
Mayor Snyder:
OPERATION OVER THE TOP MONTH
Mayor Snyder:
are no objections, I will so proclaim,,
HISTORY WEEK
Mayor Snyder:
CAMERON AVENUE
Page Forty -Six
The code says it should be
delivered on the afternoon
I have no objections if you want
A long time ago the Council
moved it up to Thursday,, We
want it back on Friday,,
I .don't think there are any
objections to this,,
This is the week of February
219 1965. If there are no
objections, I will so proclaim,,
(No objections voiced,,)
So proclaimed,,
This is from February 15 to
March 15, 1965. If there
(No objections voiced,,)
So proclaimed,,
This is February 7 through 14,
1965,, If there are no objections,
I will so proclaim,,
(No objections voiced,,)
So proclaimed,,
Councilman Heath: I see they are putting Cameron
Avenue in and they are putting
the curbs in,, I also understand Suburban Water is going to run a 24-inch
line down Cameron Avenue, Not after the paving is in, I hope,,
Public Services Director, Mr, Adams:
We will have to back off and give
them a few weeks,, We will back
off after the curbs are in,
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LABERGE LETTERS.
Mayor Snyder:
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-
MAYORS' MEETING
Page Forty -Seven
What is the disposition of these
two letters from Mr, LaBerge?
We will take care of that,
Mayor Snyder- There is a meeting Wednesday
night at 6-30 at the Brazilia
and I would like to request that a staff man go since we are going
to have this meeting with Leeds, Hill 8 Jewett,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-
We will have someone attend,
DEMANDS
Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, to approve
demands totalling $1599570.53 as listed on demand sheets<:C43.4,._B184
and B185, This total includes fund transfer of $98,76, Motion passed
on roll call as follows-
Ayes- Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder
Noes- None
Absent- None
There being no further business, motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded.
by Councilman Krieger, and carried, that this meeting be adjourned
to Wednesday night, January 27, 1965 at 7-30 P.M. This meeting
adjourned at 1-15 A,M, .
ATTEST:
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CITY CLERK
APPROVED zyoS
MAYOR
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