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05-04-1964 - Regular Meeting - Minutesi MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA May 4, 1964 The adjourned regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor Snyder at 8,05 P.M. in the West Covina City Hall. Councilman Nichols led the Pledge of Allegiance, The invocation was given by Councilman Jett. ROLL CALL Present. Mayor Snyder, Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath (from 9.20 P.M.) Others Present,. Mr. George Aiassa, City Manager Mr. Robert Flotten, City Clerk & Administrative Assistant Mr. John Q. Adams, Public Services Director Mr. Gerald Klein, Engineering Department Absent, Mr. Harry C. Williams, City Attorney Mr. Harold Joseph, Planning Director CITY CLERK'S REPORTS SIDEWALK PETITION LOCATIONS �., Northeast corner of Vine and Valinda Avenues. Mr. Flotten- We have a petition that was presented to the City Clerk's Office today from the people who live in the area of Vine -Avenue and Valinda. (Presented photograph to Council, Read body of petition.) There are two people here this evening with respect to this petition. Mayor Snyder, Isn't this part of the first 1911 Act sidewalk program? Mr. Adams- This was not included in the current sidewalk program. We did not have dedication of the necessary right of way. We have negotiated with this property owner over a period of two or three years and on April 27 we received a letter from him offering dedication and also requesting the City's participation in the construction of improvements. Sidewalks would be considered as part of the over-all report, Mr. Aiassa, I would recommend that this be turned over to the staff' for your next meeting and give us time to look this over. Mr. Dan Salvioni I understand there has been budgeted 926 South Valinda $40,000 for this project and it is my West Covina understanding that your cost on this will only be about $32,000 and I would respectfully request the Council as of tonight and not next Monday night to get this in with the sidewalks going in now, I would like and I think the people signing with me would like to have the street taken care of in as short time as possible. • i l� Co Co 5/4/64 Page Two 'SIDEWALK PETITION (NORTHEAST CORNER VINE AND VALINDA) m Continued City Managers Mr,, Aiassa: The cost of the sidewalk program we are bidding is on Puente in front of the Ralph's store,, Mr. Dan Salvioni: I am talking about two separate things; one, the completion of the curbs and gutters- secondly, the sidewalks,, Councilman Krieger: I am in no position without a staff report on this matter to pass on it,, I move the matter be tabled pending a report from the staff on this matter,, Councilman Nichols: I will second the motion on the basis that the staff will have a report for us for the next Council meeting which will be next Monday night,, Action on Councilman Krieger°s motion: Motion carried,, City ManagerA Mr,, Aiassa: We can assure Mr. Salvioni that if we can include it in this project we will take advantage of it because of the cost but there are other problems involved and we want to review it first,, SAN GABRIEL VALLEY SYMPHONY ASSOCIATION 1964®65.Participation City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten: We have a letter regarding this matter,, The Council usually has come up with $250,00 a year for this organization,, Mayor Snyder: Couldn't we just accept this letter for study with our budget? City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: We could do that. We might refer this to the Finance Officer to bring up at the finance session,, Finance Officer, Mr,, Kayo It is included in the budget request. Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried, that the letter from the San Gabriel Valley Symphony Association be accepted and filed and the matter be referred to the Finance Department for budgetary consideration,, WALKER SAFETY AWARD Police Department City Clerks Mr,, Flotten: This is the Walker Award,, Chief Sill is here to accept this award,, -2- s CO C, 5/4/64 Page Three 'WALKER SAFETY AWARD (POLICE DEPARTMENT) - Continued Mayor Snyder-, We have an award from the National Police Officers of America regarding National Police Week and our own police force, (Mr, Flotten read said letter,) Police Chief Sill-, I would like to thank the National Police Officers Association for this award. This is the fourth time we have received this award in West Covina and it is always a most welcome one. Mayor Snydero The Council is proud of our Police Department and more proud that we have had less fatalities, Councilman Krieger-, I think it might be appropriate if the Council extends its congratulations not only to the Chief but through him to the other members.of the Police Department expressing our best wishes and pleasure in this particular award, RESOLUTION NO, 2915 ADOPTED The City Clerk presented-, "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA DESIGNATING ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICTS NOS, 15, 21 AND 2211 Mayor Snydero Mr, Heath should be the alternate member, not Mr, Nichols, City Clerk, Mr, Flotten° I believe you appointed Mr, Heath to take your place and appointed Mr, Nichols to serve as alternate. I understand that is not possible; the Mayor is by law a member of the Sanitation Board, Mayor Snyder-, City Clerk, Mr, Flotten-, Mayor Snyder-, Mr, Nichols has indicated he cannot make daytime meetings and Mr, Heath has been on the Board, Mr, Heath will be the alternate'. Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, that said resolution as amended be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows-, Ayes-, Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Mayor Snyder Noes-, None Absent-, Councilman Heath Said resolution was given No, 2915, -3- C, Co 5/4I64 Page Four 'CITY CLERK'S REPORTS a Continued • CORTEZ P,T,A, REQUEST • City Clerk, Mr, Flotten; We have an application for a temporary use permit from.the Cortez P,T,A, for a bazaar on May 22, 1964 from 2,.30 to 5.30 P,M, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried, to grant the temporary use permit to the Cortez PoT,A, for the purpose of conducting a bazaar on the day of May 22, 1964 between the hours of 2e30 P,M, and 5-30 P,M, V,F,W, REQUEST (FIREWORKS) City Clerk, Mr, Flotten,. We have an application for a temporary use permit from the Veterans of Foreign Wars, This is an annual. request for permission to.sell fireworks from July 1 to July 4, 1964, They have the same locations as last year. This has been approved by the Fire Marshall and should be approved subject to the staff' approval, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried, that a temporary use permit be granted the Veterans of Foreign Wars for the period of July 1, 1964 through July 4, 1964 for the purpose of selling fireworks subject to an examination by the Staff and the posting of a $75,00 bond, CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS VINCENT=GLENDORA INTERSECTION City Managers Mr, Aiassa.- You have a full report on this matter, I also have a supplement report which will tie in with the development of the Valinda-Glendora Bridge design and schedule, After discussion on this matter I would like to bring the Council up to date on Project C-- 1.90 Mayor Snyder,. The Council has the report from the staff regarding this matter, Councilman Krieger,. It might be beneficial for the people here to discuss this matter to have a summary given of this report, (Maps were presented and Mr, Adams gave a brief summary of this matter,) Mr, Buck Burton.- We had a meeting with the staff and discussed most of these things, I think the first point you should give consideration to is the fact that these plans and different drawings on this thing date back to 19519 that the merchants' group on Glendora Avenue did not agree and accept this plan as such, -4- C, C, 5/4/64 Page Five VINCENT®GLENDORA INTERSECTION - Continued • Councilman Nichols- It was my understanding that . when this was in the process of planning some time ago that there was some consultation involved between the Chamber of Commerce Traffic Committee and the City staff in developing this and it was done cooperatively with the Chamber of Commerce Planning Committee, I assume you do have representation on that, Mr, Buck Burton- The group that I am referring to is the West Covina Center Merchants Association, not the Chamber of Commerce, Councilman Nichols, Are you members of the Chamber of Commerce? Mr, Buck Burton- Some of us are, So far as any information coming on this particular thing from the Chamber of Commerce, I have never received any, In addition to all the different drawings that have been done on this there was no knowledge of it by this group of merchants, On this traffic count thing, this can vary from day to day and we realize that; however, I know the traffic count taken five or six months ago was taken from Monday noon to Tuesday noon, The last traffic count was taken from Thursday noon toFridaynoon and there can be a tremendous difference of traffic from Monday to Thursday, The specific points I dis­ cussed with Mr, Adams were the ones we feel are most derogatory so far as our area is concerned, so far. as inviting traffic into it, This area (indicating) is 22 feet from curb to curb. We have seen big trucks coming through there with their left wheels 15 inches to 2 feet over this line, You wouldn't dare to bring an automobile along side of it, I discussed the possibility of widening those two lanes and he said they couldn't be widened and still leave a left -turn pocket at this point (indicating), I pointed out to him the complete unnecessity of this left -turn here because just 150 feet away you have a complete thoroughfare going left, Here you are taking the traffic off of Glendora and putting it on Vincent and bringing it back to Glendora. This is going to be a dangerous intersection, We would like to see Glendora straightened out to some degree so that a 11 o ng turn isn't necessary all the way to the far side of Vincent, We feel if you make it difficult for traffic to get into or out of an area they won't come and that is the crux of our feelings on this, that it is being made difficult and dangerous and only time will tell that if this intersection stays this way, When Vincent starts carrying 35,000 and L0,000 cars a day you are going to see confusion in this intersection and at the interchange, Councilman Nichols; It seems the breakdown here is the breakdown that existed with the businessmen and the staff through the Chamber of Commerce. I always thought that the Chamber of Commerce in the community represented the businessmen and if there was a traffic committee that it would be up to the businessmen to relate through that committee to the City staff in preparing any of these plans and with this thing having gone on for a number of years and these committees having related to one another, where you got left off of this thing I am not very well informed, -5- C, C, 5/4/64 VINCENT-GLENDORA INTERSECTION m Continued Page Six • Mayor Snyder.- Mr, Burton in his discussion . here has only listed three specific complaints with this interchange, that the area is too narrow at that one point, the left turn should be eliminated going north and that this interchange going south should be straightened out. These are a matter of design for experienced people in highway construction and they obviously felt this was the best design. You have not specifically said how you feel this intersection keeps any traffic out of the Glendora Avenue areao Mr,, Buck Burton.- I feel that it is dangerous at this intersection for people to come into the area and being the truck route there is a one -lane passageway for all practical purposes because many trucks use this and people will not drive alongside a truck and enter this narrow space here. We have stood and watched this on many occasions. Also, the signs should specify left lane for Vincent Avenue and right lane for Glendora. Councilman Krieger - Mr,, Buck Burton; Councilman Krieger. - Mr, Buck Burton, There are signs present on that street at this time. Are you aware of them? Yes, I am aware of the signs, I think they are too small, They indicate by arrow, rather than terminology, do they not? Yes. Councilman Krieger.- As I remember those signs they give Glendora top billing indicating that it is Glendora Avenue straight ahead. You seem to place emphasis on this bottleneck that ishappening as you proceed north. According to the statistics the Public Services Director has given us,, the dimensions are the same right now as they were before, - 22 feet, Mr. Buck Burton- They would be except for one thing; you won't find a car parked at this jutted -out area three times a week and now you cant park but there was 30 feet there with nothing but lines to direct this traffic but parking was permissible. Councilman Krieger.- In determining what the width of the street was for purposes of northbound traffic you would have to take into consideration the fact that cars could pass along that east curbline, Mr, Buck Burton. - Councilman Krieger.- 10 feet along that jutted -out You will end up with 32 feet. the report, Yes, As I understand it, it is proposed to acquire another space to give it an even alignment. That is one of the items carried in -50 C, C, 5/4/64 Page Seven VINCENT-GLENDORA INTERSECTION o Continued Mr, Buck Burton, This has to be many years away, It is a great deal easier to run over the line on a highway than it is the island, I don't know what percentage of the people in our area belonged to the Chamber of Commerce but I do know the majority of them in our area could not feel that the traffic division of the Chamber is as concerned with this problem as the people in that immediate vicinity and I know, toog that you gentlemen are aware that at times the Chamber has been accused of playing politics instead of being an organization that was designed for the businessmen, I do reiterate that something as important as this to an immediate area, I think the people who do business in that area are the people who should be a deciding factor rather than possibly a chamber of commerce which conceivably could have every member of its board from the Eastland Shopping Center, Councilman Krieger, I feel the serious problem down in that area is not north/south traffic but east/west traffic, You people are badly cut off as well as the Plaza on east/west traffic and that is a serious problem in my mind and we hope to do something about that, That is where the confusion in the City is being created is on the east/west flow of traffic, Mayor Snyder, Also, I think as far as the signage goes, Mr. Adams has indicated they are willing to change the•signage as usage indicates, Public Services Director, Mr, Adams, We have here 11-foot lanes and the freeway has 12®foot Lanes, If the trucks are going over the line, I think it is a question of the people getting used to this particular movement, A lot of these problems will resolve themselves in a matter of time when the people become used to this intersection, On this left turn, we were primarily concerned with the traffic coming south and going into the shopping area where the theater is, There is a left -turn pocket there, The only way this can work is to have opposite a similar type of installation or else have this a full curbed median in order to accomplish the purpose for which a left® turn lane is intended, Mr, Bill Beam, I am talking for most of the merchants in that particular area, The old center has been referred to as the "old center" for quite some time, We are depending upon specialty shops and bringing those customers to us, We are not doing the business that we should be doing or that we did at this same time last year and these are financial facts that can be presented by a good many of the merchants, I definitely feel that that lane should be opened up so we have our normal flow of traffic, We had a bridge taken out down there and everyone's business dropped because of this, I attended three meetings that I remember and not one of these meetings brought out what I call a precise plan of that island as it stands today, The merchants were not informed on how this was going to be and we had no way to object to this, The Chamber did not represent the merchants from the center, I don't consider the Chamber as representing the center merchants at all, The petition we turned in isn't all merchants; there are a lot of people who are discontented with the situation the way it stands now, m7® Co Ca 5/4/64 Page Eight VINCENT-GLENDORA INTERSECTION m Continued • Mayor Snyder-. Your main complaint is north- bound, not southbound, is that correct? Mr. Bill Beam-, Most definitely. Mayor Snyder; It seems to me the real problem before the Council is we recognize your complaint but we are not sure until we have -traffic counts and so on that you are correct.. I think this should be taken under advisement and recognizing the goal of no obstruction of traffic on Glendora Avenue the staff either stand up for what they have designed or make the recommended changes. Personally, I think when this is properly signed and properly marked that this may work but I will go along with your goal that there should be no obstruction of traffic on Glendora Avenue. Mr, Bill Beam-. We are here to present our case, not how we would do it but to register our complaint about the traffic not getting to us as it has in the past. (Councilman Heath entered the chambers at 9-.20 P.M,) Mayor Snyder-, I think something done soon if your hurt as you say,, has to be business is Councilman Krieger-. The members of this Council are laymen also and we rely upon experts as well and in going over the report that was prepared since last Monday night I see where there has been a lot of expert study on this particular question. What concerns us is the City as a whole and we are concerned with the welfare of all aspects of the commercial life in the City and the comment I made before, which is I believe the most serious consideration from every aspect is really our east/west traffic flow, is most important. I am concerned with certain figures that you gave. If the business in the center has deteriorated during the last year, do you believe this is attributable to this intersection? I understand this opened up on April 3 so we have about a month°s experience on that and the traffic count we do have indicates there has been an increase in traffic north of State Street on Glendora Avenue during this very same period. Mr. Bill Beam-, I am not talking about a year; I am talking about the past three weeks. In three weeks time a man can lose a lot of business and this is what has happened. What else can we attribute that to? Councilman Krieger-. The traffic count does seem to be somewhat indicative in this matter. If there is a feeling in the merchants association in your area that the Chamber is not representative of your views and sufficient members are not joining the Chamber to indicate their views, perhaps your association ought to gather together a traffic advisory committee of its own to give the Council the benefits of your opinion in future public hearings so we can weigh this in addition to the Chamber°s. C, Ca 5/4/64 Page Nine 'VINCENT-GLENDORA INTERSECTION Continued Mayor Snyder: It would be in order for the • Council to recognize these complaints and decide whether they want more investigation from the staff or action one way or the other to improve the situation, . Councilman Nichols: I would be inclined to feel that continuing traffic counts should be made on Glendora Avenue northbound to give this Council further assurance that the installation in question has in no way retarded the flow of traffic into the West Covina Center area, If I have this assurance in my mind as a Councilman that this traffic flow has not been retarded then I would be inclined to accept whatever engineering features have been recommended by those charged with that responsibility, If I were to determine that that traffic flow has been effected in one way or another I would urge the Council to look at this problem again, I do not feel this should be delayed, Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, to direct the Public Services Director to arrange for the continuation of traffic counts on Glendora Avenue and to report back to the Council in two weeks and give us an indication of the traffic conditions as related to prior traffic counts historically along that way in light of the City Council°s concern and respect to the problems expressed by Center merchants and in light of the Council°s intent to provide free and full traffic access to the Center area, (Councilman Krieger voted "No",) Mr, Buck Burton: When there is a final hearing or even a preliminary hearing on the intersection of Valinda and Glendora, would we be allowed to discuss this with whoever is going to draw this channelization on that intersection? Mayor Snyder: This is a detailed and lengthy problem and I am concerned that it should come up in our regular Council meetings, I think this should be held at a special meeting that wouldn't take our whole agenda time, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I do have a tentative time schedule for the Valinda Avenue Extension, This is project C-1.96o Councilman Jett: I think the actual design has been completed for this inter- section and I think this is what Mr. Burton is referring to, However, I don't know of any anticipated change in the design, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: In June of 1963 the design of the Valinda-Glendora Bridge was authorized by the Council, Until we complete the physical surveys I think what Mr, Jett is referring to is the tentative alignment approved when we acquired Bowker°s property, ; Mayor Snyder: We can't make any further changes without further public hearings, I would like these gentlemen to select a committee of three or four to meet with John Adams and he can go over this problem with them, won • C,, Ca 5/4/64 'VI'NCENT-GLENDORA INTERSECTION Continued Mr,, Buck Burton: We can do that,, Page Ten City Managers Mr,, Aiassa: We hope to commence construction of this project in September of 1964,, This is just bringing you up to date on the second phase,, UNAPPROPRIATED FUNDS AS OF MARCH 31, 1964 Finance Directors Mr,, Kay: I believe you all have our report,, (Read summary of said report,,) One of the difficulties of municipal funds is that we must follow certain legal requirements and these requirements say you can finance a certain item out of one fund but you cannot apply the resources of that fund to finance some other type of activity. Some of these items or many of them are items which you could not wholly anticipate at the time of the budget and would not be wise to take things problematical and establish some money for those which would mean some other project which you knew would go would be set aside,, Mayor Snyder: At budget time will you be able to give us an estimate of that amount of money so if we do have items that may need appropriation out of the budget we will know how to establish a priority? Finance Directors Mr,, Kay: We should have that ready for you,, We have established a benchmark in every fund which we did not have before so we can do that with this budget,, Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, to accept this report on the unappropriated funds as of March 31, 1964 and place it on file,, ASSEMBLY BILL 180 (WATER) City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: I want to bring the Council up to date on this,, It appears they have deleted everything involving us and limited it strictly to San Bernardino,, We have been advised.that the election has failed and there is not too great a chance of it coming out of the committee and being adopted,, I would like to pursue it, however,, 'I think it has lost its punch because the election failed,, SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE STUDY (DMJM) City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: I have a payment for D,,M,,J,,M,, (Read report re this matter,,) According to the contract $4,750 is due as of the acceptance of their final report and the Council has accepted their final report,, _10® Co Co 5/4/64 Page Eleven SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE STUDY (DMJM) m Continued . Motion by Councilman Heaths seconded by Councilman Krieger, that the sum of $4s750,,00 be paid to Daniel, Mann, Johnson 6 Mendenhall in accordance with their contract,, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Krieger, Nichols, Heaths Mayor Snyder Noes: None Absent: None Abstained: Councilman Jett EASTLAND STUDY (VICTOR GRUEN PAYMENT $30000,,00) City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: We have a $3,000,,00 payment due to Victor Gruen as per contract. This part of our agreement with them,, We should set up a meeting with them to discuss their progress report on the phase of this study Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, to authorize the payment of the first installment of $3,000,,00 to Victor Gruen as per contract agreement,, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Krieger, Nichols, Mayor Snyder Noes: Councilmen Jett, Heath Absent: None City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: We can set it for the first meeting in June for the meeting with Victor Gruen,, This is June 1, 1964 at eight o'clock. RESOLUTION NO,, 2916 The City Manager presented; ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA REFLECTING THEIR SUPPORT OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE PICKERING TRACT CALAXIE HOMES IN THEIR, APPLICATION FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE GENERAL TELEPHONE COMPANY OF A CHANGE IN THEIR TELEPHONE BOUNDARIES" Mayor Snyder: Hearing no objections, we will waive..further reading of the body of the resolution,, Councilman Krieger: I would like to know a bit' more about this contemplated meeting in Sacramento,, Has it been finalized? Councilman Heath: After the Council gave me permission to carry on on this problem I called Mr. Soto and he felt there was going to be a meeting tomorrow in Sacramento where this matter would be brought up,, In talking to the head of the Public Utilities Committee I was assured that,this was not the case, that the meeting tomorrow has to do with the overlapping of telephone directory areas and this problem could not be brought up at this time so there was no meeting C, C, 5/4/64 RESOLUTION NO, 2916 ® Continued Page Twelve scheduled tomorrow, I have talked with Mr, Lockhart from the Covina office and a man from the Pomona office and explained the problem and they said they have done a lot of talking about it but have not come to any conclusion, I have a luncheon this Thursday with some officials from the telephone company that Mr, Lockhart picked out to discuss the problem, At ten o'clock In Los Angeles on Thursday there is an informal hearing before the Public Utilities Commission where we will have Mr, Shields, who is from the Public Utilities Commission, and other officials from the telephone company to sit down and discuss this problem, That is where we stand at the present time, Councilman Krieger-, Councilman Heath-, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, Assemblymen and if and when this matter of the problem, Is this resolution necessary at this point? Yes, because it shows we are concerned with this problem. We would address a copy of this resolution to each one of our comes up they will be aware Councilman Heath-, This has been carried on by members of the Pickering Tract at their own expense, This resolutions I think, will show the telephone officials, the Public Utilities Committee and the Public Utilities Commission that we are concerned about this problem and we would request action on this, I wonet go to Sacramento unless it is necessary and I don't think it will be for quite some time,' Councilman Krieger-, I would understand the purport of it would be the Council is on record in this matter and Councilman Heath is acting on behalf of the Council to the extent of voicing as presently contemplated our objection on the local level. Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Krieger, that said resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows-, Ayes-, Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder Noes-, None Absent-, None Said resolution was given No, 2916, COVINA WESTERLY ANNEXATION NO, 47 City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, Mr, Snyder and myself had a meeting with the representatives of the Covina Council, Mayor Snyder-, There has been an agreement between the City of West Covina and the City of Covina that there should be no annexation in certain areas common to both of us without notification or discussion with the other city, They are contemplating an annexation of a few lots on the north side of Badillo just west of Azusa and the entire Badillo Street from Azusa to Lark Ellen, Mr, Yaeger indicated when -12- C. Ca 5/4/64 Page Thirteen COVINA WESTERLY ANNEXATIIOON po 47 - Continued he discussed this with Mr. Barnes and Mr. Heath that they at that time were concerned that the City of Covina didn't annex Badillo and they are now proposing to do this. The staff has had this map and should be able to make a report whether this is in our interest or propose any problems to annex to the south side of Badillo regarding access. City Manager, Mr. Aiassa; There will be a large divider in the middle. We had a similar problem on Barranca between Eastland and A.B.C. Councilman Jett. - Is there any way of retaining control over ingress and egress? City Manager, Mr. Aiassa.- I brought this up at their discussion and they said they would not have any quarrels with any discussion we had about ingress and egress. Public Services Director, Mr. Adams.- This is to the property line of the street. City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa.- Councilman Heath. - We mentioned we would go to the curb line. I think it would be fitting to get the County to improve the rest of the street. Move the City Attorney be instructed to.draft a resolution requesting that the County improve their portion of Badillo Street and that after approval of this . resolution that we send a copy to the City of Covina and the City` of Baldwin Park to pass a similar resolution with a cover letter stating the feelings of the Council about the importance of this. Councilman Jett.- What about the impact of the flood control program in there? If Covina brings this pipe down to Lark Ellen and stops, I think we should get busy and continue that through now. Mayor Snyder; Action on Councilman Heath's motion.- Jett, and carried. They indicate that was one of the priority requests for the bond issue coming up. Motion seconded by Councilman Mayor Snyder.- The feeling of this Council is that we request they stop their annexation at the south curb line and secondly that we don°t object 0 to this annexation if they do that and thirdly that we cooperate jointly in uniform landscaping on the median strip. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the City of West Covina has no objection to Covina Westerly Annexation No. 47 if they stop their annexation at the south curb line and that we cooperate jointly in uniform landscaping on the median stripe -13- Co Co 5/4/64 Page Fourteen 'CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS ® Continued • RELAY STATION '10 Pickering Tract City Managers Mr, Aiassa-, The Council has a report on this, (Read report re this matter,) Do you want to go into this now or at our budget session? Councilman Heath-, Did we make provisions in this for air raid sirens? City,Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, Councilman Heath-, If it is the site they need, yes, I would be in favor of going ahead on that, Police Chief Sill-, I would suggest that this property be acquired or some move made to get this property into the City and once we have it we can take our time in developing it, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, We can go for Federal funds on civil defense, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Krieger$ and carried$ to instruct the City Manager to contact Home Savings and Loan to see what kind of proposal we can get concerning a site for a relay station at the top of the ridge and that all pertinent information be gathered concerning the cost$ size$ location, et cetera, so that whea we talk budget we will be able to put an amount in the budget for this, PUBLIC WORKS TOUR City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, Mayor Snyder-, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: ANTIQUE FIRE ENGINE TRANSPORTATION COST TO SAN LUIS OBISPO City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, our antique truck to San Luis Obispo, The staff has tentatively suggested Saturday, May 23, That date is agreeable with everyone except Mr, Jett, We can do the same route with him at a later date, We have a request from the Fire Department to transfer We need $236,00, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Krieger$ to authorize $236,00 to send the fire truck to San Luis Obispo, Motion passed on roll call as follows-, Ayes-, Councilmen Jett$ Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder Noes-, None Absent-, None -14- Co C, 5/4/64 Page Fifteen 'CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS ® Continued MONTHLY PAY RAISE FOR CITIZEN BOARDS City Managerg Mr, Aiassa-, This is a request for an increase in compensation for the Personnel Boards the Parks and Recreation Commission and the Planning Commission, The Personnel Board makes $10,00 per meeting, the Parks and Recreation makes $10,00 per meeting and the Planning Commission makes $20,00 per meeting, They are suggesting that the Personnel Board make $20,00, the Parks and Recreation make $20,00; and the Planning Commission make $25,00 per meeting, Mayor Snyder-, I might suggest that although they don't have to go through the embarrassment or difficulty of public hearings that the Parks and Recreation Commission and the Personnel Board both have a lot of study time outside of their regular meeting; they have a big responsibility and I think they are a little lenient in their raise and that perhaps it would be $25,00 or $30,00, Councilman Nichols-, I don't feel you can compensates., citizen groups for the actual hours they give to the City and the raises as recommended are relative to each body, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Nichols, that the monthly pay raise for citizen boards (Personnel Board, Parks and Recreation Commission, and Planning Commission) be approved and that the City Attorney be instructed to draw up a resolution changing the salary so that the amounts shown in the present resolution be changed to coincide with the recommendations of the Personnel Board, otherwise the resolution remains the same, Motion passed on roll call as follows-, Ayes-, Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder Noes-, None Absent-, None AID TO CITIES Azusa Avenue City Manager, Mr, Aiassas We now have our $10,000,00'for the improvement of Azusa Avenue within the City of West Covina and this is on the Aid to Cities allocation, This is just for your information, EASEMENT CORRECTION A®11®61®1 City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, You have all received copies of this, This is Easement No, 243, (Read report regarding this matter,) Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, that the City Manager be authorized to refund the sum of $91,42 from the General Fund to Mr, John S, Clymar, Assessment Noo 243, Tract No, 17657, C, C, 5/4/64 Page Sixteen EASEMENT CORRECTION (A®11m61-1) m Continued Motion passed on roll tcall as follows: Ayes. Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heaths Mayor Snyder Noes. None Absent-, None SIGNAL INSTALLATIONS Frontage Roads City Manager, Mr, Aiassa. RALPH®ZODY TRUCK PROBLEM We will bring this matter up on our field tripe City Managers Mr,, Aiassa. All I want is the acceptance of a letter from Mr,, McCullen which establishes the final report stating that they will install all the improvements as required and set forth in the map approved by the Council, We can then drop the matter, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that the letter from Mr, McCullen re Ralph-Zody truck problem be accepted and placed on file, FIREWORKS SHOW Chamber of Commerce City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: (Read letter re this matter,) We do have an official action from the Parks and Recreation Commission that dates April 28, 1964 on this, (Read said action,) Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that the Council authorize the Parks and Recreation Department to cooperate with the Chamber of Commerce in the planning and promotion of the annual July 4th spectacle as outlined in the Chamber letter of April 28, 1964, LIBRARY REPORT Future installation City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: At the request of the Council we have had joint meetings with the representatives of the County, They would like the possi- bility of two studies, one made by our Planning Department, utilization of the two tentative fire stations, The County representatives also feel the possibility they are going to remove the fire station from Cortez Park and that this be looked into as a regional or community area, They would like to place the library in that area but request a two-mile radius analysis to be made by our staff for the potential population, acreage, and so forth, to the year 1980, -16- CQ Co 5/4/64 Page Seventeen 'LIBRARY REPORT (FUTURE INSTALLATION) ® Continued • Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Nichols, and carried, to direct the Parks and Recreation Commission to consider the possibility of utilizing a branch library in the Cortez Park area if the statistics and data prove that this is an area desirable for a branch library and that they also take into consideration the other two sites,, POLICE FACILITY BUILDING City Managers Mr,, Aiassa; We are trying to seek from the Federal Government some money to match on the foundation construction of the new civic center building and it is the emergency operation center,, There is a possibility we can get separate funds other than H,,H,,F,,A. Funds by applying directly for E,,O,,C,, Funds,, Cleo has laid out tentative studies and plans,, Mr. Aught is now working out details where they can make their material appliable to our study so this money will be made available,, The City would get over 500 of their expenses paid on matched basis from the Federal Government,, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried.A that the,City Manager be authorized to work out a contract with the Federal Government with the possibility of obtaining these funds,, (Councilman Jett voted "No"; Councilman Nichols abstained,,) Councilman Snyder,, You might direct a memo to clarification on the abstaining voted Mr,, Williams asking for City Manager, Mr, Aiassa,, I°11 take care of it,, HOSPITAL CONTRIBUTION City Managers Mr,, Aiassa- I would like to refer this to the Personnel Board to discuss this with the consultant on fringe benefits,, I think this could get out of line,, Motion by Councilman Nichols, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, that this matter be referred back to the Personnel Board to discuss this with the consultant on fringe benefits,, GOLD 6 THOMPSON CONTRACT City Managers Mr,, Aiassa- The contract with Gold and Thompson and Company, we have had minor amendments,, One is they wanted the Council to accept their criteria and they want to attach an exhibit on their fees and they have an exhibit about which shows the various rates on their people,, Other than that9 he has accepted the contract as we have outlined,, -17- C. C. 5/4/64 Page Eighteen GOLD & THOMPSON CONTRACT - Continued Councilman Heath-, We asked the City Manager to talk to the representative of • the personnel to see if they would be willing to wait another month for a better- report, Mr. Aiassa-, I talked to members of the'per- sonnel staff and the only question they were concerned with is unless they bring it up in a full staff membership meeting because they don't want to commit themselves alone. I could have them call a board meeting because this affects all the employees. Councilman Nichols - As I recall we decided that we -would go ahead and authorize the contract based upon the present stipulations but with the under- standing that if it became apparent that it might become, an inferior report due to time considerations that we would then recontact them and extend that, Councilman Heath-, That is true, I think the man should know ahead of time because he is liable to go rushing through the first part of it and coming up short on time and the damage has been done. If he can have a longer time he should know it in the beginning so he can do, a better job in the beginning of the report. Councilman Nichols-, If Mr. Gold indicates that he can perform this in the time indicated and if his responsibility is that he would put, more men on it I think he has the mechanics to complete it and I would like to see it done within the stipulated time. I believe I would go along with the contract as stated, Councilman Heath-, I would feel that we are putting an undue pressure on -this man. Fur- ther, I feel if there was another month or two given that the personnel would not suffer to any great extent and yet we would have a satisfactory study. I would have to vote against this contract because I don't think �0 it is doing justice to the City Personnel. Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Nichols, that the Mayor and the City Clerk be authorized to sign the contract with Gold and Thompson and Company, Inc. as consultant for the City of West Covina to conduct classification in salary survey as per contract proposal, Motion passed on roll call as follows,, Ayes. Councilmen Krieger, Nichols, Mayor Snyder Noes-, Councilmen Jett, Heath Absent,, None Councilman Heath-, I am voting "No" for the reasons stated above, Mayor Snyder. Perhaps the staff should inform Mr. Gold that when.he gets into it and finds that he is not going to be able to live up to the time that the Council would entertain extending the time limit, • a C, C, 5/4/64 CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS ® Continued RESOLUTION NO, 2917 ADOPTED Mayor Snyder, Page Nineteen The City Manager presented. - "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA FINDING AND DETERMINING THAT THE PUBLIC INTEREST,; CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY REQUIRE THE ACQUISITION OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES FOR STREET PURPOSES" (Merced Avenue ® Project. C-146 - Nagle" Property)) Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:- Ayes, Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder Noes, None Absent, None Said resolution was given No, 2917, RESOLUTION NOo 2918 ADOPTED Mayor Snyder, The City Manager presented.- "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA FINDING AND DETERMINING THAT THE PUBLIC INTEREST, CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY REQUIRE THE ACQUISITION OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES FOR STREET PURPOSES" (Merced Avenue m Proj,C141 Redtfe,ldt property) Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution, Motion by Councilman Krieger, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows° Ayes.- Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder Noes, None Absent.- None Said resolution was given No, 2918, ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Manager presented.- "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE UNIFORM BUILDING CODE AS ADOPTED BY THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO UNSAFE BUILDINGS" Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance, ®19- Co Co 5/4/64 Page Twenty. ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION - Continued,, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced, HOUSE ABATEMENT Mr. Aiassa- I need the following action: Accept the Chief Building Inspector's report You have copies of the procedure manual for the abatement of this type of building. (Read report re this matter.) Mayor Snyder: I have never seen the Ruppert house but I thought that it was a well buil structure. Mr. Aiassa: it was at one time, The vandalism is so ba.do it is suggested we set up a public hearing before the City Council on May 25 for the abatement. The Council will hear the owners and other interested persons and will deter- mine whether said building and said structure is safeo Mayor Snyder- Under this new ordinance, if the owner consents, do you still have to have hearings? Mr. Ai.assa-, No. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, to set May 25, 1964 as the date for the hearing on the abatement of the house on the Ruppert property. CEREBRAL PALSY MONTH Mr. Flotten- I have a request that the Mayor proclaim the month of May as United Cerebral Palsy Month, Mayor Snyder: If there are no objections, I will so proclaim. (There were none.) So proclaimed. ROBBINS PROPERTY Project RW-6331 Mr. Aiassa. The Robbins property, which is the portion we are trying to acquire off of Cameron and Glendora, has accepted our $11,000.00 offer, (Read report re this matter.) It is recommended that the City Council approve the ac- quisition of the right of way across Les Robbins' property. I have a memo dated May 4, 1964 directed to me from John Q. Adams re this matter and I would like this spread in full in the Minutes. -20- CQ Ca 5/4/64 ROBBINS PROPERTY ® Continued • acquisition of right of way for relative to the Robbins property Cameron and Glendora. Page Twenty -One "This is further to the Cameron Avenue Extension at the northeast corner of "On fridayq May 19 1964 Mr, John Mordoff9 Attorney for Mr. Robbins, was in my office and discussed the acquisition of this property with Mr. Klein and myself. At that time we indicated to Mr. Mordoff that the City would pay $11,000 for the property, as indicated by the City Council, and we were not prepared to offer any more than that. "Mr. Mordoff discussed this with his client over the weekend -and called this morning, May 4, 1964;, and indicated that his client had accepted our offer of $1100009 providing this was a net figure and the'City would absorb escrow costs, title policies, etc. This, in our estimation, is a reasonable request. "RECOMMENDATION. - "It is the recommendation of this office that the City Council approve the purchase of the right of way for Cameron Avenue across the Les Robbins property, in the amount of $11,000, plus miscellaneous acquisition costs. It is further recommended that the City Council direct the City Attorney to cancel the City°s condemnation suit against Mr. Les Robbins for the acquisition of this property as soon as the property has, in fact, been purchased by the City and the Grant Deed recorded with the County of Los Angeles." Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, to approve the purchase of the right of way for Cameron Avenue across the Les Robbins property in the amount of $11,000, plus miscellaneous acquisition costs; further that the City Attorney be instructed to cancel the City°s condemnation suit against Mr. Les Robbins for the acquisition of this property as soon as the property has, in fact, been purchased by the City and the grant deed recorded with the County of Los Angeles. Motion passed on roll call as follows-. Ayes-. Councilmen Jett, Krieger, Nichols, Heath, Mayor Snyder Noes.- None Absent-. None COUNCILMANIC REPORTS 6 ANNEXATION NO. 162 Mayor Snyder.- Mr.Yount contacted me today and he would like to have a meeting with a representative from the staff and a committee of the Council and he hinted he might find a way to see that the adverse decision in the Superior Court was changed. I see no harm in a committee meeting with him and I would like to see Mr. Krieger and Mr. Heath and -21- i • C, Co 5/4/64 Page Twenty -Two ANNEXATION NO, 167 m Continued Mr, Aiassa meet with MroYount. This is regarding the annexation to the east, Annexation No, 167, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, I'll set up the meeting, JOINT MEETING Mayor Snyder-, Have you made any progress toward setting up joint meetings with the various commissions? City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, All the commissions have been notified, Mayor Snyder-, Would it be wise to have a committee of the Council meet with the Chamber regarding their budget before our budget session instead of the whole Council meeting with the Executive Board? Councilman Heath-, I think so, I would like to see that come about, Mayor Snyder-, I would like to ask Mr, Nichols and Mr, Jett to meet with the representatives from the Chamber of Commerce regarding their budget, Councilman Jett-, Mayor Snyder-, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa.- LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES MEETING I will be leaving town on the 12th, I will let Mr, Krieger and Mr, Nichols meet with them then, I'll set up the meeting for you, Mayor Snyder-, I can't go to the League of California Cities meeting on Thursday night, Mr. Heath is the alternate. Can you go? Councilman Heath-, Mayor Snydera City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, MAYORS' MEETINGS Mayor Snyder; No, Can anyone go? I think it is important that a staff man go if a Councilman can't, We can send Mr, Adams, These Mayors' meetings, how important are they? Are these just discussion meetings? -22® • lr u Co Co 5/4/64 MAYORS' MEETINGS ® Continued Councilman Heath-. out of them. There have been some of, They discuss mutual problems. COUNTY ZONE CHANGE N0,, 4646 Page Twenty -Three I would say they are worthwhile. There is a lot that has come meetings that nothing has come out Councilman Heath-. Regarding the stand we took last week on the size of the lots in back of the Country Clubg there are three parcels in there. Several parcels are contiguous to the City of Walnut. These people were asking 170500 square foot lots and we expressed our opposition to that. I question whether you could tell the difference between a 170500 square foot lot and a 20,000 square foot lot. However, I think we are using numbers and possibly not facts, As a result of the opinions given, the Board of Supervisors took a strong stand against this and sent it back to the Regional Planning Commission with strong recommendations. If this is knocked down in the County to.a minimum of 20,000 square feet I have indications.since last Wednesday in - the .west side of town it is a simple matter to go to the City of Walnut and get what they want. I feel Walnut will grant them what they want and we will have the City of Walnut coming down to the back of our golf course. Mayor Snyder-. This is the northern side of the hill and they have very poor access to this to service this were they to annex this. It seems to me that we have many points which we can oppose through any annexation by Walnut. Councilman Heath, Citrus Avenue will be the main lane of service in this area from Walnut. Mayor Snyder-. The action we took a week ago or two weeks ago was in accordance with what is in our City on this area and this seems to me to be at the interest of our City. If there are any changes pending I think we should not change our policy regarding this area until such time as those changes become official or we are given official notification of them. Councilman Heath-. I agree they should be com- patable and.I would be opposed to a very great difference but in order to save an area which is the nicest part of our surroundings I would be willing to give a little bit. Councilman Krieger-. The prime objection wasn't based on the difference between the size; it was based on the fact that the lot sizes could be reduced to 119500 by virtue of the County Hillside Ordinance where there could be a variance of as much as 42%. Councilman Heath-. I think we should have stated that we would not object to it as long as it didn't go any smaller than 17,500, ®•23® �t Ce C,, 5/4/64 COUNCILMANIC REPORTS m Continued ZONE CHANGE Fern So Merry, et al,, Page Twenty -Four Councilman Heath: Last week I called up Fern Sayers Merry's property mainly because of the fact that Fern Sayers Merry and her people were given an indication by previous Councils and by policies of previous Councils which the Planning Commission did not take into account,, I would like to have the Council°s agreement that we hold it in abeyance until after the Glendora Avenue Study has had its public .hearings,, In other words, I called it up and I would like the Council to back me in holding this for two months before we have the hearing,, Mayor Snyder-. Councilman Heath - over until after the Glendora hearing,, I think the new members should be advised of the policy of the potential zoning. It is now calendared for the 25th and I would like to hold it Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett,, that the zone change by Fern Sayers Merry be held over to the first meeting in August, 1964,, Councilman Krieger2 that they should determine it under one changes it should be sent back to them,, without the Council°s intervention,, I mendation from the Planning Commission of Glendora Avenue,, Councilman Heath - rather than later, it doesn't make any Councilman Jett: Councilman Nichols: Mayor Snyder. - deny it, or send it back to the start their studies in light of or we can hold it over and then I can't conceive that this is fair to the Planning Commission criteria and when the criteria This can be done in any event would like to have a recom® based upon the final formulation If you want to send it back to the Planning Commission now difference to me,, It has to come before the Council before you can send it back,, You would have to deny and they would have to reapply. We can hold the hearing as scheduled and either approve it, Planning Commission now so they can the same studies they have on Glendora probably again send it back,, Councilman Jett: This potential zoning was is placed on these properties; public hearings were held,, All of the areas were zoned in accordance with what was determined at those hearings but it was placed in potential zones and an official map was adopted and approved as the official map and it indicated these areas zoned potentially,, All that was necessary to firm this up was when you came in and requested it it was automatically given to you,, These properties were assessed in accordance with the potential zoning,, These people have been -24- Co C,, 5/4/64 Page Twenty -Five ZONE CHANGE (FERN S,, MERRY, ET AL,,) m Continued • paying this money for years,, Now the time comes when our City Attorney tells us to remove the potential zoning,, I am convinced that these people are entitled to that zoning that they have had potentially all these years,, Mayor Snyder,, The Council gave them six months to firm up their zoning,, Councilman Krieger- Why isn't it timely to hold the hearing on the 25th? What circumstances would change on the 25th that would make it any different? Councilman Heath- I feel it should be held off until we have the benefit of the study,, Councilman Krieger: But accepting what Councilman Jett said as the history of this matter why is the study that is being conducted now have any. relevancy on whether there should be a reversal on the Planning Commission decision? Action on Councilman Heath's motion- Motion failed,, \ Mayor Snyder - WATER MEETING The motion has failed,, This matter will come up on the 25th,, Councilman Jett- This week on Thursday, May 79 I was to attend this water meeting in Sacramento and there is a trip to Oroville,, This meeting is a meeting of the water contractors association of which we are a voting member,, We are supposed to attend those meetings,, We are expected to attend those meetings,, I have tendered my resignation to you and I will not be able to attend this meeting and the man you have appointed to replace me has time to take over the reservations that were made in my behalf or they can be cancelled,, Mayor Snyder- You were not replaced,, I merely put Mr. Krieger on the committee with you because I feel that in the very near future whatever move we take is going to take the efforts of the whole Council,, I would like to see the two of you work together on the water problem,, I think the whole Council is going to have to be working diligently on this but we need somebody to compile the informa- tion and bring it back,, If you think this meeting is important -- Councilman Jett- I think Mr,, Krieger should 0 attend,, Councilman Krieger- I read the Minutes of the Bakersfield's meeting and inasmuch as Councilman Jett obviously takes exception to the comments I made last week, let me restate them. I read the Minutes of this meeting and it indicated to me that it took longer for Councilman Jett to go to and come back from this meeting in Bakersfield than the meeting consumed,, It also indicated to me that the greater portion -25- C, C, 5/4/64 WATER MEETING o Continued Page Twenty -Six • of the meeting in Bakersfield was devoted to informational speeches by people in attendance at that meeting, I commented, based upon that, that I felt that time might be better devoted than to attend informa- tional meetings, There is nothing in the Minutes of that meeting that indicates any vote being taken in looking over the agenda, the tentative agenda of the meeting at Oroville on May 7, I saw no items that indicated any matters up for vote, When Mayor Snyder asked me if I would serve on this Water Committee I indicated to him that I would be most happy to serve with you on this Water Committee, I hardly consider it either fair or reasonable to assume that coming onto the Council within the last two weeks that I can make myself acquainted with the water matters that have been before the Council for the preceding six years when it took me a full Saturday and Sunday only to read the Minutes devoted to this water matter and I am not prepared to assume the responsibility for the course of action that a previous Council has decided upon as spokesman for this Council in this water situation, I will not under any circumstances shirk any responsibility as a Councilman or as a committee member while I am on this Council but neither will I accept responsibility for action taken by previous Councils for policies set by previous Councils nor will I act as a spokesman before other groups on behalf of an issue on which I am not fully acquainted, I never have in the past in my profession and I don°t intend to speak as a Councilman on any issue unless I am fully advised and informed on this. You know for yourself how much time you spend on this water issue. I can guess how much time you spent just by reading the Minutes in which you refer to meeting after meeting you attended, You give me more credit than I deserve if you think I can assimilate in this short span of time the water problem of this City, I agree with Councilman Heath that there should be a review of this entire subject matter by all members of the present Council, We are now directed towards an annexation hearing which I believe is something in the mill that obviously should be concluded and even though this Council may by concurrence decide to proceed as the past Council has, I. for one, am not prepared toeit`-3r represent this Council before any meetings speaking in favor of the decision and policy of the past Council, nor do I think it is reasonable for you or any other member of the Council to anticipate that I can acquaint myself with this subject matter in such a short period of time, , Mayor Snyder, I think it should be pointed out that I received your letter of resignation before I made any appointment of Mr, Krieger, However, I do feel there should be more than one man on this committee because I think any action we take on the matter of water we will pretty well have to agree unanimously, Secondly, I, myself, have, no criticism, In fact, I have a great deal of admiration for the amount of time you have put in on the water situation up to this time and I was upset when I received your resignation and I hoped it wasn't on any basis of the fact you felt you were criticized, There could be minor criticisms on whether you should attend such a meeting and so on but this is not criticism of the overall policy, I would like to see you remain on the committee with Mr, Krieger, You are more versed on the subject than any of us at the present time, Councilman Jett: I think the record will show that I have never made a trip just to be making a trip, -26- L� i 0- C, C, 5/4/64 WATER MEETING ® Continued Mayor Snyder; Councilman -Jett - Mayor Snyder: Page Twenty -Seven I would agree with that, There have been trips that I felt weren't necessary and I asked to be relieved of them, You can't always tell before you go how important some of the trips are, Councilman Jett: This is true and M,W,D, is at every one of these meetings and you never know when you have to be there to lend your.weight or voice your opinion or vote in accordance with what the other ten members who are representing our area, Mayor Snyder: I don?t think what Mr. Krieger said in the Minutes was meant as criticism, Sometimes it is difficult to tell ahead of time how important a meeting will be. Do you feel the one in Sacramento is important? Councilman Jett: I feel it is important, Maybe I am wrong but we are a voting member and we vote on all these items that do come in, This is a voting meeting coming up, Councilman Krieger: I commented only on my personal views with reference to my personal attendance at this meeting, Mayor Snyder: Since a Councilman can't go, should we ask a staff member to go? Councilman Jett: The only problem is a staff member could not vote, I don't believe, Councilman Heath: A staff member cannot vote, Mayor Snyder: This is one we will just have to miss, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I will cancel our reservations for this meeting, Mayor Snyder: I do .hope you will stay on the Water Committee, Councilman Jett: I will be happy to help the Council but 1 will not serve as Chairman of the Committee, -27- Co Ca 5/4/64 Page Twenty -Eight There being no further business, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Krieger, and carried, that this meeting be adjourned at 12.-05 A,,Mo ATTEST. - Or CITY CLERK APPROVED oZ�. MAYOR