01-27-1964 - Regular Meeting - MinutesI
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
January 27, 1964
The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor
Barnes at 7:45 P.M. in the West Covina City Hallo Councilmah'Jett led
the Pledge of Allegiance. The invocation was given by the Rev. Fay
Miller, St. Timothy's Lutheran Church.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Barnes, Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder
Others Present: Mr. Robert Flotten, City Clerk & Administrative Assistant
Mr. Thomas Jo Dos, Public Services Director
Mr, Harry Co Williams, City Attorney (from 7:55 P.M.)
Mr. Harold Joseph, Planning Director (from 7:50 P.M.)
Mr. Gerald Weeks, Assistant Personnel Manager &
Administrative Analyst
Absent: Mr. George Aiassa, City Manager
Mayor Barnes: I feel the City has suffered a
great loss in our City Treasurer,
Mrs. Merry, who was a very gracious lady and a wonderful friend to all
of use We will miss her a great deal.
(Mr. Joseph entered the chambers at 7:50 PoMo)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 16, 1963 - Approved as presented as follows:
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the Minutes of December 16, 1963 be approved as presented.
December 23, 1963 - Approved as presented as follows:
Councilman Snyder: In last week's paper there was
an article to the effect that
the implication was that it had been taken from the Minutes to the
effect that the Council had unanimously voted not to raise the City
Manager's salary. To my knowledge this is not anywhere in the Minutes
and is not a matter of public record. Therefore, I think the article
was in error. I would like to point out this was not in the Minutes
and not taken up in a public meeting.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the Minutes of December 23, 1963, be approved as presented.
VISITING STUDENT
Councilman Heath:
We have a student with us
tonight studying government,
Miss Johnson.
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is Miss Johnson- I go to Cal Poly, I am a
sophomore and it is for American
Civilization class, Everybody in the class is supposed to go to
different city council meetings and observe what is going on.and we
have a list of things to report on,
Mayor Barnes -
PROCEDURE
Thank you very much for coming
Councilman Heath- In the past meetings we have
been trying to speed the meetings
along and I may have stepped out of line too far in moving on these
items before they are read,
(Mr, Williams entered the chambers at 7-55 P,M,)
Councilman Towner- I have no objections to moving
them along rapidly except where
any Councilman has a particular question,
Mayor Barnes- I have asked that the City Clerk
only read the number of the
precise plan and the staff°s recommendation because we have already
gone over these before,
City Attorney, Mr. Williams- I think reading the heading is
sufficient unless some member
of the Council wishes to discuss the matter, There is no legal
requirement that the City Clerk read anything as long as the motion
is identifiable as a certain item,
CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO, 350
ACCEPT STREET IMPROVEMENTS
Ray Kilz
APPROVED
LOCATION- 205-217 South Vincent
between Walnut Creek
Parkway and Center,
Accept street improvements and
authorize release of Pacific Employers Insurance Co, bond No.
O1-B-90294 in the amount of $39000,00, Inspector°s final report
filed, Staff recommends approval and release of bond,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and chrried,
to accept the street improvements in Precise Plan of Design No, 350
and authorize the release of Pacific Employers Insurance Company Bond
No, 01®B®90294 in the amount of $3,0001,00,
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PRECISE PLAN NO, 3029 REV, 1
ACCEPT STREET IMPROVEMENTS
Richard F, Mogan
APPROVED
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LOCATION-. North side of East
Ramona Boulevard,
west side of the Big
Dalton Wash,
Accept street improvements and authorize the release of Security
Insurance Co, bond No, 0621-63 in the amount of $2,275,00,
Inspector°s final report filed, Staff recommends approval and
release of bond,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
to accept the street improvements in Precise Plan of Design No, 302,
Revision 1, and authorize the release of Security Insurance Company
Bond No, 0621-63 in the amount of $2,275,00,
PRECISE PLAN C®1 AREA
ACCEPT SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS
E, Lewis Johnson
APPROVED
LOCATION-. East side of Glendora
Between Walnut Creek
Parkway and Dalewood
at No, 240-244
Glendora Avenue,
Accept sidewalk improvements and authorize release of $250,00 cash
deposit, Inspector°s final report filed, Staff recommends approval
and release of cash deposit,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
to accept the sidewalk improvements in Precise Plan CG1 Area, and
authorize release of the cash deposit in the amount of $250,00,
RESOLUTION N0, 2841
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Clerk presented-.
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
APPROVING THE BOND TO GUARANTEE
THE COST OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS
AND THE TIME OF COMPLETION IN
TRACT N0, 27665 IN SAID CITY"
(Pickering Ent.)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows.-
Ayes- Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes-, None
Absent-. None
Said resolution was given No, 2841,
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS ® Continued
RESOLUTION NO,, 2842
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
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The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
ACCEPTING A CERTAIN WRITTEN
INSTRUMENT AND DIRECTING THE
RECORDATION THEREOF"(Lot 29,Tr27666
Fire Sta. ##5)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted,, Motion passed on roll call as'follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No,, 2842,,
RESOLUTION NO,, 2843
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
ACCEPTING A CERTAIN WRITTEN
INSTRUMENT AND DIRECTING THE
RECORDATION THEREOF°`(Yaleton Ave)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted,, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No,, 2843,,
RESOLUTION NO,, 2844
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Clerk presented:
"oA RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
DEDICATING CERTAIN CITY OWNED
PROPERTY TO PUBLIC STREET
PURPOSES AND ACCEPTING SAME AS
A PUBLIC STREET" (Lot 73, Tr 214.77
Yaleton Avenue)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,,
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'RESOLUTION NO, 2844 ® Continued
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Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said.resolution was given No, 2844,
RESOLUTION NO, 2845
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
DEDICATING CERTAIN CITY OWNED
PROPERTY TO PUBLIC STREET
PURPOSES AND ACCEPTING SAME AS
A PUBLIC STREET" (Lot 11, Tr24648
Yaleton Avenue)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2845,
RESOLUTION NO, 2846
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A
QUIT CLAIM DEED"(Lot #19 Tr #20977
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2846,
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS m Continued
RESOLUTION NO, 2847
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes -
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The City Clerk presented -
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A
QUIT CLAIM DEEDII(Lot #34, Tr #20977)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows -
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes- None
Absent- None
Said resolution was given No, 2847,
RESOLUTION NO, 2848
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes -
The City Clerk presented-
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF
A QUIT CLAIM DEED"(Lot #35, Tr#,20977)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows-
Ayes- Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes- None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2847,
PROJECT S,P,6406
LOCATION° Workman from Citrus
APPROVE PLANS 8 SPECIFICATIONS
westerly and numerous
RESURFACING OF CERTAIN
other streets in
EXISTING STREETS
Sanitary Sewer
APPROVED
District A°11-61-1,
Review Engineers report, Approve plans and specifications, Authorize
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City Engineer to call for bids, Staff
recommends approval and
authorization to call for bids,
Councilman Towner:
Have we done this same procedure
where the streets have needed, repair?
in other sewer district areas
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh:
Yes, The previous four or five
negotiated contract in which we entered
times we have done this by
into a contract for something
less than $5,000,00.
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PROJECT S,P,6406 - Continued
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Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
to approve the plans and specifications in Project S.Po6406 and
authorize the City Engineer to call for bids,
SCHEDULED MATTERS
BIDS
PURCHASE OF FIRE PUMPER
BID 64-43
Bids received in the office of the City Clerk at 10,00 A,M,, January 23,
1964, as advertised, The bids received are as follows,
AMERICAN LA FRANCE
SEAGRAVE PACIFIC CORPORATION
CROWN COACH CORPORATION
MACK TRUCKS
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten,
Councilman Heath,
No bid
No bid
10% bid bond
No bid
$30,905,19
(Read recommendation of Finance
Division re this matter,)
On the other Crown Coaches we
bought, are they similar to
this one?
Fire Chief Wetherbee, I think the one diversion should
be brought to your attention
and it has been so stated in the letter, On the previous two Crown
Coach pumpers we purchased we had a different motor, one which is
$2,500 less, The price compares favorably with surrounding cities
for purchases on large motors, The record shows it is in line,
Councilman Towner, I assume that the reasons
stated for receiving only one
bid are correct, Do you have any other additional information on that?
Fire Chief Wetherbee, No,
Councilman Towner, Apparently as long as the prices
are in line and as long as it
meets the requirements of the Fire Department I see no other alternative.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that the
Director of Finance be authorized to issue a purchase order to Crown
Coach Corporation of Los Angeles for the combination pumping engine
in the amount of $329141,409 including sales tax. Motion passed on
roll call as follows,
Ayes, Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes, None
Absent, None
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I'SCHEDULED MATTERS ® Continued
DISTRICT A°11®61®1
SANITARY SEWER DISTRICT
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LOCATION- Willow Avenue, Morris
Avenue and other streets
and rights of way,,
Hearing of protests or objections to the confirmation of assessments
to cover the installation of sanitary sewers in Willow Avenue m Morris
Avenue Sewer District,, Set for hearing this date in "Notice of Filing
Assessment and Diagram" dated January 10, 1964,,
Mayor Barnes- Mr,, City Clerk, do you have the
notice of' publication, posting
and mailing?
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten- I have the affidavits.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the affidavits be received and placed on file,,
Mayor Barnes- Mr,, City Clerk, have you
received any written protests
or objections against the assessment?
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten- I have,, (Read letters directed
to the City Council re this
matter in protest and/or objection from the following- (1) Assess-
ment No,, 841, Lot 159 Tract 143879 Assessment of $510,,50, signed by
Mr,, and Mrs,, H,, J,, Denton, 2410 West MacDevitt Street, West Covina;
(2) signed by Mrs,, Gladys M,, Hansen, 2404 Cedarwood Street, Assess-
ment No,, 825, Lot 48, Tract No,, 14258; (3) signed by Maurice S,, Grace,
2506 West MacDevitt Street, no tract or lot number; (4) 2426 West
MacDevitt Street, signed Richard J,, Hesselback, Assessment No,, 844,
Lot 18, Tract 14387; (5) Lot No,, 5, Tract 18452, 1824 West Eldorado
Street, West Covina, signed by Thelma M,, Russel,,)
Mr,, Pat Rosetti- This is the final assessment,
The work has been done. The
work was given to the lowest bidder,, We have approximately one thousand
parcels and we have attempted to spread the assessment according to
cost,, The breaking down is $7.61 an assessible foot, which is not a
running foot. We have one area which has received an acreage charge
because of the full development of the property. There were a few
areas where we felt it was a hazard to the development of the property
at the present time and therefore we have given certain considerations
to that,,
Regarding the question of the
excessive cost of $15,,00, the person has been adding what they have
paid on their side and the neighbor paid across the street,, Both
sides of the street are paying for the one line,, That has always been
our policy,, Most of our sewers are running about $7,,50, $8,,509 $9,,50
a foot. I think even a seven -dollar sewer today is relatively cheap,,
Regarding Assessment No,, 844,
this is a lot 68 feet in the front and the same in the rear and it is
141 feet deep,, (Drew illustration on board and explained same,,)
Councilman Snyder- Do you feel this is fair
policy, the Russell assessment? according to your assessing
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SANITARY SEWER DISTRICT A°11-61-1 - Continued
Mr, Pat Rosettio
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Yes. If Mrs. Russell is�:unhappy
about it, I would like -E.---.ask
her how she would assess it,
Mrs, Russell: I would recommend that since
all of the lots are straight
lots across the street and up to this curve, since all are assessed on
the front footage and since you went on an average figure on the
curve, I still feel my lot is an odd lot and should be the same as
those around the cul-demsac,
Councilman Snyder: Her lot was forced to be made
odd -shaped because of the
cul-demsac, not necessarily the street frontage,
Mrs, Russell: I feel it is a cul-de-sac piece
of property and shouldn't be
handled any differently than those on the cul-de-sac,
Councilman Snyder: I think the criteria to determine
whether it is a cul-de-sac
lot is whether the cul-de-sac caused its odd shape and I think it did,
Mr, Pat Rosettio I would say we can't make it
60 feet, It is not our recom-
mendation, We would go to maybe 70, 71 feet, The average is one
and a half foot off from the 73 and we would be happy to send her a
check for the difference, It will be a difference of about ten,
twelve dollars,
Mayor Barnes: I think this 61 frontage and
the 82 feet in the rear should
hit an average but I don't think it should benefit to the extent 'of
6.0,` -on -the :cul-de-sac,
Mrs, Russell: As far as I'm concerned, it is
part of the cul-de-sac,, If
you don't want to accept it as that, leave it as it is, I don't want
any $15,00 back,
Mrs, Johnson: Is there a stub off on the rear
property? If there was one put
there, who told them where to put it? No one ever contacted us on
where to put this because we didn't know we were going to be assessed
for the back part, I am talking about a lateral so the street won't
have to be torn out later on if we do decide to subdivide,
Mr, Pat Rosettio
The Engineering Staff, I presume,
approximately where it is going to
Mrs, Johnson:
There is a lateral there and
you have not been charged for it,
checked the houses and determines
be,
When the time comes for this
subdivision to take place, we
won't be charged for that?
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh: There is a lateral there, The
lot she has could be subdivided
into three parcels and four parcels with a slight variance. This
is Very:s.imilar to the property we just subdivided on Merced, Mrs, Watts,
Here we reduced the assessment about $175,00 if this -was figured on
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SANITARY SEWER DISTRICT A111®61-1 Continued
the basis of having full assessment for both frontages and both
laterals would cost $175,00 more, We took this into consideration
that at the present time there is one house in the middle of this
property,
Mayor Barnes.- Are there any oral objections
to the district?
Mr, Bernie Hearty Why do we have to go by this
average when you have all the
plans of each individual house and tract in the City which states how
many front feet each person has? Why don't you assess on what you
have here instead of going by the average?
Mr, Pat Rosetti.- That law was enacted more than
20 years ago, Nobody uses that
law because it works a hardship on certain pieces of property, (Drew
illustration and explained same,)
Mr, Edward Antony I have a lot of frontage but no
back property, Mine is 848,44,
Why should mine be 848 when other people have a deep lot and a small
frontage, If it was reassessed for apartments I could never use that
space, Mine is Lot 419 Assessment 524A,
Mr, Pat Rosetti-. This is a case where we came
up with what we thought would
be fair, (Drew illustration and explained same,) He has two con-
nections to the property and that is what I charged him for,
Councilman Snyder. -
Is it very likely that that lot
could be split?
Mr, Pat Rosetti-. I can only go by what I see
on the diagram, If there are
two house laterals on a property I have to charge for two. I have
to charge for the laterals,
Planning Director, Mr, Joseph.- I think
it could be two lots.
resulting would be,
I don't
I think you could get two
know what the lot size
in there,
Mr, Edward Anton.-
I only asked for one lateral on
one side, I have the lateral
on the Bromley side
but there is a mark on the
other side,
Councilman Heath.-
It must
have been figured that
the lot
could be split,
Councilman Towner.-
It appears
to me that he is
his neighbor on this
getting
particular situation,
more for his money than
Councilman Snyder-.
What was
the cost for the extra
lateral?
Mr, Pat Rosetti-.
$125,00,
He has 95, The average
in the area is about 80,
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Councilman Snyder- I think this is equitable in
view of the facts of the other
lots in the area and the amount of ground that he has there,
Mr, Pat Rosetti- I feel that this is more than
equitable for this area,
Councilman Heath- The difference seems to be that
he feels it cannot be split
into two lots and the information we are getting leads us to believe
that it could be two lots and therefore it is being assessed as a split
lot,,
Mr,, Edward Anton- It was tried eight years ago
and it can't be done,,
Mr,, Don McTaggart: I filed a letter of protest last
Thursday with the City Clerk
regarding a secondary lateral on my property also that I didn°t feel was
just,, This is 2015 Sunkist Place,,
Mri,,Pat Rosetti-
(Drew illustration and explained
same,,) There are two laterals,,
I believe the gentleman claims that the house is in the center. We
have come up with a recommendation of the deletion of one lateral
charge,, One of the reasons it was put there is that there are two
mailing addresses to that property,,
Mr, Don McTaggart° No; there is only one,,
Public Services Director, Mr,, Dosh- I would have to look that up in
the City records,,
Mr, Zell- I think your maps are quite in
error. That has been cut down
to roughly 45 feet sold to the State for the underpass and that peice
of property was denied for two lots in 1950 and that piece of property
has always been one address and one piece of property,,
Mr, Pat Rosetti- The credit for taking off one
lateral is $125,,00, What the
City can do is relieve him of that responsibility of $125,,00,, If
there ever is a possiblity that you want to use this other connection
then you can pay the City the money for it and open it up,
Mayor Barnes- If there are no other protests,.
I would entertain a motion that
the hearing be closed,
Mr, Pat Rosetti- I would like to have some of
these changes recommended
the spliting of a piece of property, now is four, we gave them credit
for three house laterals, and the credit to MacTaggert, and there was
one that involves a description correction; there is one other piece
of property that has been requested to split,, (Drew illustration and
explained same,) We have prorated the amount,, I think this is the
Pearl property,, The assessment remains the same. It was just pro-
rated the way he has it split,, On Mrs,, Johnson°s, we gave her an
extra lateral but there is no charge. These are incorporated into
the change,,
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SANITARY SEWER DISTRICT A°11m61m1 Continued
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the hearing be closed,
RESOLUTION NO, 2849
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Attorney presented:
`PA RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
MODIFYING THE ASSESSMENT DIAGRAM
AND ASSESSMENT ROLL /IV) SEWER
ASSESSMENT DISTRICT NO, A911a61ml'9
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
.Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2849,
RESOLUTION N0, 2850
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Clerk presented:
P°A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
CONFIRMING THE ASSESSMENT FOR
THE IMPROVEMENT OF WILLOW AVENUE,
MORRIS AVENUE, AND OTHER STREETS
AND RIGHTS OF WAY AS MODIFIED11�i9'//-z/-/)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2850,
VARIANCE NO, 476 LOCATION: 1943 and 2001 West
David Kreedman Garvey between Sunkist
HELD OVER and Cameron.
Request to modify required setbacks, height and ground coverage -re-
quirements in Zone Rm4 approved by Planning Commission Resolution
No, 1515, Called up by Council on January 6, 1964,
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: Zone Change No, 281 and Precise
Plan No, 392 of David Kreedman
are coming up on February 10, I think it is understood that this be
held over is they could all come up at the same time,
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VARIANCE NO,, 476 ® Continued
Mra David Kreedmana
We started to draw plans about
three different times and every
month is is costing more money to figure
out what to do here,, Is it
necessary to wait that long?
Councilman Snyder,,
The zoning won't be final anyway,,
Mr,, David Kreedman..
Then we will have to wait,,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded
by Councilman Snyder, and carried.,
that Variance No,, 476 be held over to
the meeting of February 10, 1964.
PROPOSED AMENDMENT NO,, 60
Request to amend the West Covina
City Initiated
Municipal Code section to replace
APPROVED
those uses which are not now
permitted in the new R-2, R®3
and R-4 zones, approved by Planning Commission Resolution No,, 1436.
City Attorney recommends that this amendment may only be considered
valid if City Council approves Amendment No,, 59,, Held over from
July 22 to August 50 to September 23,
to October 14, to November 12,
to December 23, 1963, to this date,,
City Attorney, Mr,, Williams..
I think all portions of
Amendment 59 have been approved,,
Mayor Barnes..
Is it your opinion that this
should be passed at this time?
City Attorney, Mr,, Williams..
Yes, because in'adopting 59 some
of these uses are left orphans
unless something is done with
them,,
Mayor Barnes..
This is the time and place for
the public hearing.
There being no public testimony, the hearing was closed,,
Councilman Towner..
Does this require the drafting
of an ordinance?
City Attorney, Mr,, Williams..
Yes,,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded
by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to direct the City Attorney to draft an
ordinance as proposed in
Proposed Amendment No,, 60 as presented
Commission,,
to the Council by the Planning
PLANNING COMMISSION
REVIEW PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
OF JANUARY 15, 1964
So indicated by Mr,, Flotten,,
ZONE,CHANGE NO,, 283
Leslie Sugar
Discussion as follows..
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PLANNING COMMISSION ® Continued
Mayor Barnes,
Councilman Heath,
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We have been requested that this
come up in May,
That is fine with me if that is
their request,,
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten, He appealed but asked permission
that it be held in May, 1964,,
The City Attorney has said that this would be legal,,
Councilman Towner,
Councilman Snyder,
Mayor Barnes,
Councilman Towner,
I have no objections,
I have no objections,
The Council has no objection to
this coming up in May,
Mr, Ritchie is requesting time
to prepare a precise plan,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams, I think it might be desirable
so that the City Clerk isn't
blamed for this late date if you would move that it be set for a
date in May,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,,
that the hearing for Zone Change No, 283, Leslie Sugar, be set for
the second meeting in May,, 1964,
PRECISE PLAN NO, 93, REV, 1
DePietro Discussion as follows,
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten, There was an appeal but it was
withdrawn,
Councilman Snyder, It doesn't seem that that four -
foot wall performs much,of a
protection, I would like to know more about it,
Councilman Towner, I think there was an objection
by the neighbor about using the,
adjoining alleyway for trucks that would pass in and out for the
purpose of collecting trash and one purpose of the four=foot wall was
to discourage this, That is Cml in the front and Rm3 in the rear,
Councilman Towner, It seems to me you should con-
sider what is zoned next to it
in your thinking of the wall, not what is built there, I am not
satisfied myself that this is the right thing,
Councilman Jett,
Councilman Snyder,
Councilman Heath,
Councilman Jett,
I would like to -call this up,
I would, too,
If the man is satisfied, why do
you want to delay him?
I am not asking for a hearing,
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City Attorney, Mr. Williams -
the Planning Commission acts on it,
It is the same as an appeal.
Councilman Snyder -
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph -
Page Fifteen
It becomes final in a period
of so many days from the time
If you review it, it is a hearing.
When is the last date it can be
called up?
20 days from the 15th.
Councilman Towner° If he withdrew his appeal it
seems to me he accepted the
condition which was based on the opposition of the adjacent property
owner.
Councilman Snyder- It can still be called up next
Monday. We can check into it
and if we want to we cah call it up next time.
RECREATION & PARKS
JOINT MEETING
Mayor Barnes -
GENERAL MATTERS
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
COORDINATING COUNCIL
Police Department Deficiency
This meeting is February 3, 1963.
It is a seven ®'clock dinner, and
will be at Cloud Nine.
Councilman Heath- I have a report to make. There
are some members of the
Coordinating Council in the audience. It seems we have had something
come up which the Coordinating Council is sending to the City Council
requesting some information. At the Coordinating Council meeting last
Thursday afternoon we had a report from a Rev. Wittlinger and the
president, Mr. Feldman. I can't understand why the report was taken
to the Coordinating Council because it was a concern with our Police
Department and I think if it was a concern about our Police Department
that it should have been given at the City Council meeting. On top
of that, I feel some of the statements made in this report were
erroneous.
It seems that Mr. Feldman is
a juvenile officer with the school system and he works closely with
Rev. Wittlinger from St. Martha°s Church. They went to our Police
Department on a juvenile case and as the reverend said disposed of that
in about five minutes but were at the police station for approximately
threehours discussing this other problem. This is the report I am
bringing pack to you as it was made to the Coordinating Council.
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The problem is this- To quote
Rev, Wittlinger and Mr. Feldman, during that three hours they had
conversation with our Chief of Police and other members of the Police
Department and they were told that we in West Covina were very much
understaffed in our Police Department and that they were only taking
care of the most serious cases, Rev,, Wittlinger quoted an instance
where there was damage done to his church; he reported this information
to the Police Department and even gave the person°s name and there was
nothing done because of the fact, as he quotes, there were not enough
officers, Rev,, Wittlinger went on to say that we have taken on the
Pickering Tract which is eight miles from the station with 1,110 homes
and that we have not added any men to our Police Department to take
care of this added burden,, He brought out the fact that there was only
one juvenile officer in the City and this was far from adequate because
of the fact that there are a thousand cases of juvenile problems per
year,
This is the report that was made
by Rev, Wittlinger, The Coordinating Council heard the report,, I told
them that there was a report being made by our City Staff concerning
the problem at Mr, Jett°s request, I also told him that in the report
of the Personnel Department that the head of the employees stated that
there were supposed to be 40 police officers and there were only 31 and
this was being investigated, It was the feeling of the Coordinating
Council that this report be made to the City Council,, I don't know
why it was taken to the Coordinating Council in the first place. It
should have been brought here so I am bringing th.is_repert to.you... Tf
you will notice you have been given about a 12-page report tonight
presumably about this subject,, I haven°t read this yet. It might
contain the answers in it,,
Councilman Snyder- I have read the report and the
first three pages summarizes
it very well, As far as I°m concerned, it could be read by the City
Clerk now,,
Councilman Towner-, I would like to have some further
information about it,, First of
all, the report Rev, Wittlinger and President Feldman to the Coordinating
Council I assume was made because they are members of the Council and
acting in the interests of the Coordinating Council and I am wondering
if their report was made in writing or transcribed to see what was
actually said,
Councilman Heath- There were minutes taken but
they were not taken like our
minutes, only the action was taken down,
Councilman Towner-, I would like to ask further,
did the Coordinating Council
take some action on this?
Mr, Joseph Bloom-, I am a past president of the
West Covina Coordinating Council,,
This matter was not brought before our Board and the action of Mr,,
Feldman bringing Father Wittlinger to this meeting was his own action and
not the action of the Coordinating Council,, We were surprised to have
that report given to us,, What Councilman Heath said this evening is
essentially what transpired,,
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Page Seventeen
Councilman Towner-. If I understand it then, I under®
stood Mr. Heath to say he was
bringing this to the Council here at the request of the Coordinating
Council,
Councilman Heath-.
Councilman Towner -
Councilman Heath -
Councilman Towner-.
This is true,
And yet they say no action was
taken,
There was an action taken to
bring this report to the Council
here,
I am still at a loss as to what
the action was,
Mr, Joseph Bloom, We had requested that we send
someone to the City Council
to hear the report on this and we were hoping that it would be this
evening,
Councilman Snyder-. I have received many conflicting
calls as to what went on at
that meeting, Apparently a great deal of doubt was raised and some
confusion, I feel to settle this that this report should be made
public and forwarded to the Coordinating Council because obviously
there are many stories going around town that are not necessarily
based on fact,
Councilman Heath-. If the Rev, Wittlinger had
something to say about the
Police Department, and he is not a member of the Coordinating Council
to my knowledge, I think that he should have brought it to the City
Council°s attention rather than taking it to an organization which
consists of a member of every civic organization in the area, This
can only lead to spread the thing all over the City and blow it out
of proportion, I agree, Dr, Snyder, that a copy of this report should
go to the Coordinating Council to answer any questions brought up
at that time, Maybe that will suffice and answer everything there is
to be questioned,
Councilman Snyder-. I would have no objection to
holding this for a week while
you read the report and have the report made next week, I think since
Chief Sill's department is under criticism on one side of the case
here that he should have a chance to speak,
Police Chief Sill, I wasn°t present at the
Coordinating Council so I don°t
know what report was given, I can vouch for the fact that if such a
report, and I assume it has been given, was given, it was given on the
volition of either Mr, Feldman or Rev, Wittlinger, They had been in
the Police Department and they had discussed some matter withihe
juvenile officer, To say there is only one juvenile officer is wrong
because there are two officers assigned to the juvenile division,
Sgt,'Martin is there and Detective Schneider is there, He told me
what Sgt, Martin had told him about the juvenile case load and I
agreed with that, that the case load was high, We had requested an
additional.juvenile officer in the last budget but it was turned down,
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Page Eighteen
This was about the total of my conversation with him,, How he got to
the Coordinating Council and said there was only one juvenile officer
I don't know except perhaps we have been doing some recruiting and
we have used Detective Schneider in doing background work for the
new officers,, He is still assigned to the juvenile division of the
detective bureau,,
Mayor Barnes- I think it should be brought out
at this point that it is recommended
that your number of people be extended with some six men. Don't you
rotate some of your men in juvenile section or haven°t you in the past?
Police Chief Sill- We have assigned different
officers to the juvenile section
and every time a sergeant promotion comes up that man always seems
to get promoted,, That is where the rotation comes in,,
Councilman Heath -
The Council gave more men
than requested in the budget,,
Councilman Jett- I don°t think we gave more
than requested,, The Chief
requested a specific number of additional men. the City Manager
recommended three and we gave them six,,
Councilman Heath -
Police Chief Sill -
Councilman Heath -
Police Chief Sill -
How many juvenile officers did
you request?
One additional so it would have
made three,,
What did the City Manager recom-
mend to us?
He didn't recommend one and you
didn't give any,,
Councilman Towner- There was a statement made that
the juvenile case load is high.
I would like to clarify that just a bit. Is it high with relation
to the officer personnel or high with the relation with the population
or high compared to other cities in the area? High in relation to what?
Police Chief Sill- It is not high as far as our
City is concerned but it is
high with the officers assigned to handle the case load,,
Mayor Barnes -
Police Chief Sill.,
Councilman Heath -
Police Chief Sill -
How many cases do you have per
month on an average?
I haven°t the figures with me,,
How many additional patrol cars
did we put on this year?
We have one in the budget that
we have not activated yet,,
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Councilman Jett-,
additional men we gave you?
Police Chief Sill-,
Page Nineteen
Didn°t we authorize two or three
more in order to handle these
I can't be sure of that,
Councilman Jett- The thing that concerns me here,
I was talking to Mr, Aiassa
about this problem and I asked him the question, "You're the
administrative officer here, How come we haven°t had a report or been
brought up to date on something like this before? I think you, as the
administrative officer, should keep us appraised of situations like
this," He said he was going to get into it and had this report coming
up which I had requested, I can't help but feel that this is something
that the administrative officer should be completely cognizant of
and have it under control, This certainly points up that the Council
should be closer related to what is going on in the City,
Councilman Towner- I don't know what is pointed up
here, We authorized the filling
of these vacancies, The Personnel Department has done continuous
testing in accordance with our standards to fill the vacancies. Out
of 13 vacancies that existed at the time of the authorization, including
seven resignations and six new positions, they have filled all but
four, These four new positions, there are presently four men remaining
on the eligible list who have only to finish their medical requirements
and if they qualify they will be in, There has been a continuous
testing program,
Councilman Jett -
Councilman Towner -
Police Chief Sill -
Councilman Jett -
Police Chief Sill.,
Councilman Jett -
Police Chief Sill-,
There has been testing but no
hiring, There are 13 vacancies
existing now,
There are four vacancies,
There are four,
Does this include the men we
have authorized, the additional
men?
Yes,
What is the total number of
employees?
67,
Councilman Jett- Where does this 31 officers come
from that one of your officers
gave us a report on?
Police Chief Sill -
I don't recall that figure,
Councilman Jett-, During the Personnel Board°s
hearings on the salary raise
Jim Rasp made that statement, that there are 40 officers authorized
and only 31 officers hired and that this is the vacancy existing as
of right now, This did not include disability. I made the statement
that this sounded like 25% undermanned, This is what prompted this
request for this report,
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Councilman Heath. -
Councilman Snyder. -
Page Twenty
That was in the Minutes of the
Personnel meeting,
That doesn't make it true,,
Mr. Rasp could have made a
mistake,,
Police Chief Sills As this report by Mr. Weeks
indicates, it is true at
budget time the Council authorized six additional uniformed officers
which were gratefully received and acknowledged. About that time we
had quite a series of resignations,, With the six new ones and filling
the vacancies that existed as a result of thes resignations put a
strain on the Personnel Bureau as well as ourselves to immediately
begin to examine people and do this series of background investigations,
psychologicala polygraph,, It takes a period of time to do these things
because we are after the best men we can possibly get. We have been
in the process of examining and hiring men as they have made themselves
available, For some reason the type of person that we have been
after have not been readily available so it has taken more time than
we anticipated in the beginning but we are gradually filling these
ranks up with these officers,
Councilman Jett. -
Chief of Police and the City Manager,,
that should be discussed,
Councilman Heath-,
I would like to see a personnel
session with the Council, the
I think there are some problems
I would like to see this,, too,,
Councilman Snyder-, I don't want any implication
left here that this has not
been going according to plan, It says right here in black and white
and it has been stated over and over that there are only four
positions that are not filled but you keep repeating the fact that
Mr, Martin said 31 as though you were trying to get that false fact
out instead of the true fact. This report should be made public.
It shows everything is going according to plan. It also shows that
the four authorized positions that are not filled are not filled
because no man has taken a test yet who has passed all of the
qualifications necessary. The only thing you are making public is
the derogatory material, half of which is not true,,
Councilman Heath-, The information derogatory or
not is a report that is coming
to you from a citizen and it is being brought to you, if you want to
take offense with that man, take offense with him, but the Council is
only reporting to you the report they have received and this is not
derogatory on the part of the Council,
Councilman Snyder-, I could go on and tell what was
the Coordinating Council meeting, told to me of what you said at
Councilman Towner-,
This is one reason I asked
were there any written records
of the meeting and I asked whether Mr. Feldman or Rey,, W ttlinger
were present because we are getting second-hand information from Mr,,
Heath as to what happened there,, I don°t believe that these comments
are the full story,, I donat believe they were intended as derogatory,
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Page Twenty -One
either,, They were intended to present a particular problem that these
gentlemen have,, I think insofar as our City staffing is concerned,
the report of our Personnel Department presented to us through the
City Manager certainly clarifies that there has been a diligent effort
to find qualified men to fill these jobs and that they have filled the
jobs,,
Councilman Heath-.
that some of the people on the
the information in this report
been given the same benefit,,
Councilman Towner -
This I would know after I read
the report,, It is quite evident
Council have been given the benefit of
and some of the Councilmen have not
I got the report tonight and
read it tonight,, It was in
front of you,,
Councilman Heath-. Let's hold this over until next
week,, In the meantime I
think we should send a copy of the report to the Coordinating Council,,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that a copy of the report of January 27, 1964 of the Administrative
Assistant to the City Manager be released to the Coordinating Council
and any other interested party along with the attached information
which consists of the standards adopted by the City Council in
selection of police officers through Ordinance No,, 687 and also with
the attached sheet comparing the information regarding the other
cities,,
Councilman Jett-. I think that the implications
here are serious enough that
we cannot drop them without getting in here and getting a full report,,
I think our Chief is entitled to this,, There has been implications
involving the Chief and certainly it has cast a question on the
part of a lot of people,,
Councilman Heath-. I would like to have a joint
meeting of personnel with the
Council and the City Manager and the Chief of Police,,
Councilman Snyder-. I have no objections to this as
long as the facts are released
after such a meeting and that this is viewed in light of the facts
and not in light of statements which do not pertain to the facts,,
Mayor Barnes-. Mr,, Flotten, would you make a
note to have a joint meeting
with the Council, the Chief of Police and the City Manager as soon
as he returns and have the meeting set up?
City Clerk, Mr,, F°lotten-.
Yes,,
Police Chief Sill-. If I may, I would like to
comment regarding these various
figures,, What we are talking about is what is known in'a court of law
as hearsay'-,evldence and inadmissible. First of all, unless following
this Coordinating Council nobody came and asked me as the Chief of
Police just what the problem was,, If someone comes up and grabs a
figure of 31 and said this then this suddenly means something to some-
body,, When we talk about the number of police officers, this is
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Page Twenty -Two
exclusive of the rated mend There is a total of 42 allowed in the
Police Department,, Some of these officers have been assigned to
other tasks such as the detective bureau in which they are not assigned
as such to the uniformed patrol and sometimes when you try to say these
men who are assigned cannot be an officer patroling on the street,
but neither can a detective,, Sometimes these figures get juggled
depending on who looks at them and how they interpret them,, I would
like all information of this type to come out of my office and then
there will be no confusion of what is going on,, It is a simple matter
which can be proved by mathmatics,,
Councilman Jett-, We have a City ordinance that
does not let a City Councilman
to go talk to the Chief directly,, He can only talk through the
chief administrative officer which is the City Manager,,
Councilman Snyder-,
Councilman Jett-,
Councilman Towner-,
Councilman Snyder-,
The City ordinance does not
say that,,
That is what you have been
telling me,,
We never said that to you,
Mr,, Jett,,
We said you could not give
orders to a staff member
directly
Councilman Towner-, It has been the repeated assertion
of Mr,, Jett and I have repeatedly
set the record straight that he cannot talk to staff members,, He cannot
give orders as a single Councilman,, I have said this to him on a
number of occasions,,
Councilman Jett-,
get these facts out into the open?
Councilman Twoner-,
Why would you object to having
a meeting here where we can
I am not objecting,, I am all
in favor of it,,
Councilman Snyder-, I am not objecting, either, I
think the whole Council wants
as first-rate a police force as we can afford,, I am concerned that
a political football is being made out of something that doesn't
exist,, Before I talk about a problem I would like to know whether a
problem exists and you haven't proven a problem does exist,,
Mayor Barnes:
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
COUNTY LEAGUE DAY
This is the reason we are going
to have a personnel meeting,,
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten-, We have an invitation from the
League of Women Voters to
attend the County League Day on January 30, 1964,,
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Page Twenty -Three
Mayor Barnes-, I think it would be very bene-
ficial to the Council if someone
could go to this,, Mr. Gillis is going to speak at this meeting about
MTA,,
Councilman Snyder,,
I can't go,,
LETTER FROM JOSEPH A,, TINTARY REGARDING
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE OF FRANK FERRARA
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten-, This is in respect to an appli-
cation for on -sale beer license
on Glendora Avenue adjacent to the Church of Christ. (Read letter re
this matter,,) I have a memo dated January 23, 1964 directed to the
City.Manager re this problem from Chief Sill asking that this appli-
cation be protested on the basis of the number of licenses already
established in this area,, This is the area with which there is the
most concern in the City,,
Mayor Barnes-, This is a reading room, if I
am not mistaken,,
Councilman Jett-, No; they have services,,
Mayor Barnes- What they asked for when they
came in for their permit was
a reading room and I don't think this building as a commercial
building should be considered as a church because it was not asked for
as a church at the time when we granted their application and I think
we should consider this and I think the Chief should consider this
because this is not an established church and it was by a special permit
that we granted them to use this building.
Councilman Snvder-, I think there is one other
point that needs to be cleared
up,, To my recollection they are there on a temporary basis only.
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph. Their permit was toallow church
activities on Sundays and Sunday
School,, They are there on a variance which has to be renewed yearly
and like clockwork they come in every June and ask for an extension,,
The people from the church have been in to see us with a new architect.
They own property on Merced and Butterfield. The word I have is they
will be filing their amendment to the precise plan soon.
Councilman Towner. We have granted their right to
have services there. I think
we have two problems here. First, if we are going to protest on
the basis that there is an adjacent church. Personally, I would be
willing to make that protest. The other problem is that we are
creating beer alley down Glendora Avenue that is going to give us
serious police problems and I think frankly it is downgrading the
area if this rate of increase of beer parlors goes on. I personally
think they have a valid objection as stated by the Chief of Police
that more beer parlors concentrated in one small area create more
police problems and we have a valid basis for objection on those
grounds.
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ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE OF FRANK FERRARA - Continued
Councilman Snyder.
I think to be
absolutely fair
the Chief should
consider the
fact that the church is
there
on a temporary basis,
In that respect,
the church should have
very little
influence on what
goes on in that
area of zoning because
it will
be gone and to come in
there and
temporarily control everything
around it seems to me
a little bit unfair,
I think we should have
another
recommendation from the
Chief in light
of those facts,
Councilman Heath; I hardly feel you should tie up
a business that would be
operating six days a week because of something that might happen one
day a week next door,
Councilman Towner. As long as it is there, it is
there as a church, It is a
matter of statute whether the beer parlor can go in,
Councilman Jett. Is this just beer or is it a
restaurant?
Police Chief Sill. It is just beer,
Councilman Towner. The problem is probably very
simply solved, As I recall the
law, I think it provides that a new establishment or liquor license
may not be granted within a certain number of feet within a church and
the only question that will be presented to the Alcoholic Beverage
Controal Board is whether or not this is a church and this is a legal
question they will have to decide, If the church has made its protest
it will be presented to the Board and it is up to them and we have no
control over it,
Councilman Jett. The resolution that passed was
for a church and Sunday School
purposes,•
Councilman Snyder. I don't think there is any
action necessary on our part,
Mr, Joseph Tintary; I am representing the applicant
in the negotiation of the lease.
I think Chief Sill is quite well aware you don't issue a beer license;
you must have a cafe to go with it. That is the way those licenses
are issued,
Councilman Heath.
Police Chief Sill -
Is this a conditional license?
No,
Mr, Joseph Tintary. This application was made in
April of 1961, Chief Sill,
and I don't mean anything derogatory, made exactly the same protest,
the area was saturated, Subsequent to that time, quite a few liquor
licenses have been initiated in that very area, the Great Wall, Irv's
Delicatessen, and Tall Paul°s, in the same area, They went in without
a single protest from Chief Sill°s department, The church seems to
be the big problem and the ABC will tell you like they have told me
and like I am sure Chief Sill is aware of, they will, put a beer license
right next door to a church, This is allowable according to the
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ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE OF FRANK FERRARA - Continued
regulations and I will stand on that. This church asked to be placed
in a commercial zone; they knew what they were walking into; they knew
there would be businesses in.there; they knew there would be beer
establishments there; they made an implied contract with the people
owning property there and with the other business establishments in the
area that they would not interfere with their proper use as a C zone.
They have no complaint, This is the hazard of operating their church
in a C zone. The use has been established here; this is a C zone; a
beer parlor goes there, The church is there at the suffrance of the
people and the business people and other property owners there. Food
will be served in this establishment,
Councilman Snyder.- If the church was not a factor
would you still. at this time
protest the beer license on the fact that there are too many on that
street?
Police Chief Sill-, We have a. report that will be
due by your next Council meeting,
an investigative report about this area, This is a little premature
as far as my discussion concerning this license because the investi-
gation is in process of being completed now, However, I would like,
if I may, to comment on Mr, Tintary°s remarks,
. He is wrong when he says no
license goes in without the serving of food, This is not true, The
way this license is written and the way the application is stated,
they may serve beer only, To say there have been no protests, we did
protest the Great Wall and we lost that protest before the ABC. As
far as Irv°s Delicatessen, which is going in across the street, this
is a conditional license that food is served and this is the reason we
made no protest on it because they said they would be open limited
hours, not past six or seven at night and their primary job was to
serve food with beer being supplamental to the food. I would look
differently at this if it stated in the license that food would be
served. Here is the thing. If a license comes up with a condition
on it that food be served then should they ever go out of the food
business we would have an opportunity to re-evaluate the license,
Councilman Towner-, How long is there before the
time for protest runs out?
Police Chief Sill-, February .
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten-, You have another Council meeting
on February 3,
Police Chief Sill-, My report should be ready by
that time,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the matter of the alcoholic beverage license of Frank Ferrara
be held over to the meeting of February 3, 1964,
Councilman Snyder-, I would say he should consider
although the church is there in
fact right now that it is there to June. It doesn't mean that it will
or won't be there after that,
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Mr,, Sutherland- I am the owner of ten stores on
Glendora, When this church went
in an associate of mine asked me not to protest this temporary zoning
because the man who owned that building was having a rough time renting
it,, So I didn't protest it so the church went in,, There have been
applications for bars for various stores which I own there- Most of.
them I haven't done anything about because I am not crazy about having
a bar as a tenant unless it is a good bard This man has run another
establishment; it is real clean; no police problems; no problems
whatsoever, He seems like a good tenant- I need a good tenant,,
Because of the church I have had vacancies in those ten stores which
is fantastic and there is no reason for it,
LETTER FROM HOWARD C, ERICKSON, ATTORNEY
FOR FRANK BOWKER REGARDING EASEMENT FOR
STORM DRAIN
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten- I believe you have copies of
this letter,,
Mr,, Howard C,, Erickson I represent Frank Bowker,, The
Attorney purpose of this request is to
104 South Glendora Avenue ask for a permit to build a
West Covina building for the corner of
Glendora and Vine next to Von°s
Market, Bowker has done everything that he knows of necessary to
secure a permit to build on this property,, We have gone to the proper
people and made a demand for a permit and offered to pay the necessary
fee and do anything else necessary and the City people we have talked
with were very courteous; they have done what they felt was right
interpreting the resolutions and the City ordinances as they saw them,,
However, this is a matter which I feel only the City Council can
determine at this time because it is a matter which requires the
exercise of some discretion,, The crux of the problem is that although
everything has been done that we feel is necessary, the City officials
state that they cannot grant the permit because there is a requirement
for granting of an easement for storm drain in the resolution which
provided for the precise plan,, It is our position that this permit
cannot be legally held up because of this storm drain for the following
reasons:
The requirement for a storm
drain to carry this water from one part of the City to another part is
illegal if it requires the granting of an easement without just
compensation, Secondly, there is nothing in the resolution, and I
am referring now to Planning Commission Resolution No,, 646 of the
Planning Commission, which says this easement must be given without
compensation. This is not an attempt on the part of Mr. Bowker to
renege on something. He is willing to give an easement but not in a
situation where it is going to be a detriment to him, The resolution
which refers to this says that easements for future storm drain be
granted to the City of West Covina,, The letter which Mr. Bowker sent
to the City at the time of the precise plan indicates that he would
be willing to give an easement and the letter which he sent is in
the following terms- "If, as and when you are ready to proceed with
such a program we see no reason for not granting you an easement
along this boundary line,," Mr,, Bowker is still willing to give an
easement but he doesn't want to be hurt by doing so,, Of course, he
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has explained this to the City, He has explained that if this
easement is given at this time the County Flood Control will get out
there and start digging and these businesses will be closed up or
nearly so by reason of this storm drain being put in and will want
to sue Bowker for giving an easement to this property, I don't think
he has to do this, He has said if the City Council is willing to pay
him not what the land may be worth for easement purposes but just the
damage that it will cost him for closing up these businesses during
this periods he would be willing to grant the easement right now, I
think this is fair enough but this is something that has to be
negotiated with the County and this is fine, happy to do it, but
don't hold up the permit in the meantime, As I read the resolution
there is nothing there that makes it a condition preceding to granting
a permit nor does it specify any time when this easement is to be
given, We want a permit and we want it now, Mr, Bowker is at the
point where he is ready to sue. He has told me to do it, We felt it
would be better if we could come in here and get the City Council to
see this problem, understand it, and grant it without going through
a suit because it would take a longer time and cost more money and I
think if we are right it is something you gentlemen can see. Mr,
Bowker has to have it right away because he has a tenant signed up now
for that property where it provides for occupancy on April lst, These
tenants are here, They have indicated that if they do not get started
this week that they don't want the lease, There is a provision for
an out for them in it, The lease is for. $1050,00 per month, It runs
for ten years,, If he loses this lease he will be suffering those
damages. We bring these points to you, We feel he is legally
entitled to it and we request that you grant it,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams.- It is true that in approving
the precise plan a condition
was written just as Mr, Erickson read it that an easement for future
storm drain be granted to the City, Ordinarily we consider that a
condition_in the approval of the precise plan is to be performed before
the precise plan can be used but this precise plan is being used and
the condition wasn't required before it could be used, I am a little
at a loss to know why the condition would not have been in effect when
the use was first started but now is in effect, On the other hand,
looking at it from the standpoint of the City and the City Building
Inspector, if he issues this permit it comes to your attention that he
issues it and there was a condition in this precise plan and you get
him up here and ask why he did it when the condition wasn't fulfilled.
I don't want to put him in that position. I don't know the answer to
this, This is kind of a question of discretion, Surely the condition
was put there with the intent that it would be enforced, I kind of
read it that it is put there with the intent that the easement be
granted when it is demanded and I think he reads it that way, If that
is so, I think it has no connection with the building permit, If
you grant the building permit you do not waive the requirement that
there be an easement granted; nor do you waive, I think, the ability
to enforce it if there is any such ability. You do, however, lose a
very practical means of getting it, He wants a building, He wants
it very badly so this is a fine time to force him to give it to you
except he acts like he isn't going to do it, I don't see a clear,
easy answer, I think that it is one of these situations where I don't
entirely agree with everything Mr, Erickson says but I agree with some
of it, I don't necessarily agree that this is an illegal condition,
I don't know whether it is or not to the extent that this property was
subject to taking drainage across it and that this easement and storm
drain may be desirable to relieve a condition that otherwise is not
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good for the public welfare and to the extent that this drain may drain
this particular property, I think the condition would be legal. I am
not certain that it is clear that it is a condition that must be ful-
filled before a building permit is issued. I am concerned with this:
If the building permit is denied and if Mr. Erickson can convince a
court that this was not a condition before a building permit and
that Mr. Fowler should have issued it, Mr. Fowler is personally liable
for the damage sustained. I am not willing to put this burden on Mr.
Fowler, If you want to you can order him not to issue the building
permit,
Councilman Towner. -
waiving the
requirement
ment to this
right to enforce the
of the precise plan
condition we can go
Councilman Snyder;
If this is approved we grant,
this building permit without
granting of the easement as a
and if we have Mr, Erickson°s agree -
ahead on this basis,
Public Services Director, Mr. Dosh:
Do we have a letter from Mr.
Bowker agreeing to giving this
easement?
Yes. (Read letter from Mr.
Bowker re this matter dated
October, 1959.)
City Attorney., Mr, Williams: I think issuing the building
permit in my opinion would not
waive the requirement. I think the letter helps. It acknowledges
the existence of the condition and indicates he will comply with it,
One of the weaknesses is that neither one says when, the letter or
the condition, The only thing concerning me is this: I do not believe
there is a direct connection between the request for the building
permit and the issuance thereof and the fulfillment of the condition
for the drainage easement, I think you can issue the building permit
and expressly state in issuing it that this does not waive the
requirements of this condition for the dedication of a drainage
easement. Franklyn in my own opinion, I don't attach any significance
to the statement that Mr, Erickson makes that it doesn°t say it has
to be given free. If it is to be given, it is to be given free.
Councilman Jett: Aren't we just about ready to
start construction of that
storm drain?
Public Services Director, Mr. Dosh; They had hoped to start before
March but they are not certain.
Councilman Jett: This has been coming up before
the Council ever since I have
been on it so with this thought in mind, I feel reasonably -sure that
we are going to have to move on this soon because this is becoming
a rough problem. With this in mind, why shouldn't we get this
easement now, go ahead and issue Mr. Bowker his building permit, and
get everything straightened out right now.
Public Services Director, Mr. Dosh: Flood Control is going to do
the storm drain,
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STORM DRAIN EASEMENT (BOWKER) m Continued
Mro Howard C, Erickson-
He is not refusing to give the
if
easement, The point s that
i
he gives it he is going to
suffer damages, We see no reason why
this should be granted and be
damaged, I am not quite sure that Mr,
Williams had this letter completely in mind when he said the letter
referred to giving an easement, Giving in the law has a definite
meaning, Granting, I feels has a different meaning, Mr, Bowkeres
letter refers to granting an easement and the Planning Commission
resolution refers to deeding,
I feel neither one of these words talks
about compensation, When you
grant something you do this every time
you sell a house, you grant it
for a consideration, We don°t want to
be technical about it, but if
he grants an easement right now he is
going to have those businesses
that are leased tied up and they are
going to turn around and want
some money, All he is saying is he is
willing to grant an easement,
You don°t have to go through condemna-
tion but if you don°t want to
go through condemnation be willing to
compensate him for the damage
that is going to be caused with those
buildings are tied up,
Mayor Barnes-
Do you have any idea of what
kind of a figure you're talking
about?
Mr, Howard C, Erickson-
I don't know, They have talked
in terms of ten days to do this,
Councilman Snyder-
Have you ever known of paying
damanges for an easement in
a similar case?
Mr, Howard C, Erickson- Where the easement is required
for the development of that
particular precise plan, yes; then the City can probably require it
without compensation but the courts have finally gotten around to
saying there are some things a City can't demand free and one of these
is that you canBt demand an easement across somebody's property to
carry water from one palce in the City to another place in the City
and I am assuming that this is what is planned for this easement,
Councilman Heath- When Mr, Bowker built this
rootbeer stand and the Frosty
Freeze, he knew there was an easement going through there sometime,
didn't he?
Mr, Howard.C, Erickson- I imagine so,
Councilman Heath- He must have also known when
this circumstance was going to come up, he put that building up that
Mr, Howard C. Erickson- He presumed to know that the
Federal construction requires
just compensation for a property being taken,
Councilman Heath- He put up a building and knew
he was creating a condition
that would some day have to catch up to him in damages,
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6 Mayor Barnes;
Page Thirty
The property on the downhill side
has to accept water,
Mr,, Howard Ca Erickson. The property on the natural
flow has to accept water but
I don't know where this water is coming from or where it is going to.
This is not natural flow any time you change the course or channel it,
you're changing the flow,, The point is, when I talk about an illegal
condition I am talking about putting a condition on taking for an
easement that you're planning to take without compensation,, To me
that is an illegal condition in the precise plan and that is all I
am talking about, If you are willing to pay compensation you have the
right to condemnation,, Give us the permit; you have plenty of rights;
the County has plenty of rights to get this easement later,,
Councilman Snyder. It seems to me there are legal
ramifications and even
Constitutional ones here that we are not qualified to answer and perhaps
this should be answered by the court as far as the damages go,,
Mr,, Howard C,, Erickson. If this is what you want
Councilman Snyder. If we do this we may be setting
a precedent that we will have
to do it in all similar cases and we have no precedent in court saying
so,,
Mr,, Howard C,, Erickson. If your City Attorney is here
to advise you on what needs
to be done then I'm sure this is what needs to be followed,,
Councilman Snyder. There are legal questions here
that aren't answered, it seems
to me,,
Mayor Barnes. Mr,, Bowker, I think in your
letter of intent you intended
for some time to give this easement and I think the only thing you
are considering is any damage against you that these people who are
renting your property may bring to you,, This particular group, they
knew this existed and if we grant this permit I don't think there should
be any damages from the precise plan that you are now acting on
because you brought this to the Council,, Perhaps the other two people
didn't know about it but these•gentlemeri do. I am sure you intended
to give this free and indicated this in the'lettero
Mr,, Frank Bowker. The Tasty -Freeze was there long
before this precise plan was
approved,, Any damages they sustain would accrue regardless of the
precise plan,, They were there in 1954, This precise plan was
approved in 1958, The only thing I am asking is protection to a point,,
I told this to Mr,, Dosh and the Flood Control people and asked if they
could intelligently or reasonably complete the digging and laying of
pipe and refilling and having it so it could be used in ten days and
the engineer thought it could be done,, I said I would be willing
to give you this easement and I will take the first ten days damages,
if any, but if the contractor holds the thing up and holds it up any
longer I want to be compensated after that amount of time and I am
still willing to do that, but it will take Board of Supervision
action before the right-of-way man can make that contract with me,,
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STORM DRAIN EASEMENT (BOWKER) ® Continued
Public Services Director, Mr. Dosh: This is exactly right and the
people we talked to from Flood
Control went down to look at the property and after viewing the
property and realizing both the properties are not cut off entirely,
the business would probably be hurt but not closed down, Their problem
is this: They would be willing possibly to include a section in their
contract which states a portion of this contract must be put in a
certain limited period of time but they could not insure Mr;, Bowker
that the contractor would do it and according to the County Counsel,
they can write these in specifications but they can't enforce it,
Councilman Jett;
City Attorney, Mr, Williams. -
Who would be responsible for
damages?
Ordinarily there is no
responsibility for incidental
damage due to construction,,
Councilman Heath: I don't see why we should hold
up the building permit We
are no better off holding up the permit than we are by granting it,
We can work out this arrangement on a ten-day offer at some later time,
Councilman Jett:
an agreement, not just giving it away
Councilman Snyder. -
I think it should be more than
a motion; I think it should be
here,,
We can't make an agreement for
the Flood Control,
Motion by Councilman Townerg seconded by Councilman Heath, that the
City grant the building permit to Frank Bowker on Precise Plan No,, 13,
Revision 4, on payment of the proper fee without waiving the City's
right to enforce deeding of the Flood Control easement as a require-
ment of the precise plan at such time as the City requests,,
Mr,, Howard C,, Erickson: It isn°t up to us to agree,
You can make any motion you
want, I would agree that you have the right to provide in there that
the City does not waive any right it now has. I don't feel we should
stipulate to it only because first of all it isn't our place to
stipulate to it, and secondly, Mr. Bowker doesn't want to put himself
in the position where he is giving up any right to protect himself
against damages that may accrue when this ditch is put in,
Councilman Heath: Would he reconfirm or confirm
his statement in that letter
that he wrote?
Mr. Frank Bowker; I am willing to grant it on
the basis that I talked to
the Flood Control people and also I talked to the City about it
several years ago and the engineer that came to see me at that time
from the City agreed that a ten-day deal should be reasonable,
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STORM bRAIN EASEMENT (BOWKER) ® Continued
Mr, Howard C, Erickson-. What you have, you haves and
Mr, Towner has very carefully
reserved it to the City,
Councilman Towner-. The intent of my motion is not
to request that they stipulate
or we stipulate to anything, The intent of my motion is to give him
a building permit at this time reserving to both parties to assert
their positions at a later date when the problem arises,
Mr, Howard
C, Erickson-.
That is
a very fair thing.
Action on
Councilman Towner°s motion-.
Motion
carried,
LETTER FROM COVINA UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten-. This is an answer to the letter
I wrote them at the instruction
of the Council,
. REQUEST OF ST, LOUIS FOUNDATION TO SOLICIT
FUNDS FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF A MEMORIAL CHAPEL
TO BE LOCATED NEAR BUELLTON, CALIFORNIA, IN
MEMORY OF JOHN F, KENNEDY
Councilman Heath-,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams-.
This -is not a charitable
organization or a church
organization, is it?
No, This isn't a religious
activity, You can deny a
charitable but not a religious
organization,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to deny the request of St, Louis Foundation to solicit funds for the
establishment of a memorial chapel to be located near Buellton,
California, in memory of John F, Kennedy,
PROPOSED ANNEXATION
City Clerk, Mr.,, Flotten-.
proposed annexation from Sam Oschino
I have a letter directed to the
City Council regarding a
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that this proposed annexation be referred to the Planning Commission
for their recommendations,
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CITY ATTORNEY
RESOLUTION N0. 2851
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes.
Page Thirty -Three
The City Attorney presented.
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
COMMENDING WILLIAM FORTIER FOR
HIS SERVICES TO THE CITY OF WEST
COVINA"
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted,, Motion passed on roll call as follows.
Ayes. Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes. None
Absent. None
Said resolution was given No. 2851,
9 RESOLUTION AND/OR MEDAL
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that the City
Clerk'be instructed to write a resolution commemorating Fern Sayers
Merry for her services.
Councilman Towner. I think the idea of a plaque
is something permanent, a
token that a person honored can retain, I think the people who are
honored by the City Council in this respect might well be honored by
this permanent plaque bearing the City Seal. Instead of a resolution
supplant it with a diploma -type certificate or a plaque, something
that would be permanent.
Councilman Snyder. I think this is above and beyond
an ordinary resolution,,
Councilman Heath. I will retract my motion,, I
would be in favor of a certificate
with the City Seal on it but T wouldn't be in favor of a plaque,,
Councilman Jett. I will withdraw my second. I
suggest this be set up for
members of our Planning Commission and our other commissions.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to give Fern Sayers Merry a certificate or diploma of service for
her services.
Councilman Snyder. I feel her service was so long
and this is more than ordinary
and we should give more here than to somebody just going off the
Planning Commission or the Council, either one,,
Councilman Heath. You have a good point but where
do you draw the line?
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Councilman Snyder?
Councilman Jett. -
Councilman Towner;
determine where we might put it?
Page Thirty -Four
I think this is an exceptional
cased
I think the Council would have
to establish the policy. These
are individual cases.
Where would be an appropriate
body to look into this and
The Parks and Recreation Commission?
Councilman Heath.- I think we will be loading up
our parks if we go to this
condition. I am rather adverse to putting these plaques in the parks.
Councilman Snyder.- You could name another fire
station or something like that.
Let's ask that the Park and Recreation Commission in conjunction with
Mr. Flotten study the possibility of doing something along the lines
we have suggested. If they can't find something like that they can say
so or come up with something else.
Mayor Barnes. -
Councilman Snyder;
I don't want to send it to the
Parks and Recreation Commission.
All right; just Mr. Flotten.
Motion by Councilman Snyder9 seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that Mr. Flotten be instructed to investigate the possibility of
doing something in recognition above and beyond the ordinary resolution
or plaque.
ORDINANCE
HELD OVER
Councilman Heath. -
Councilman Snyder. -
to build a house with a one -car garage.
Councilman Heath. -
The City Attorney presented-,
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST
COVINA AMENDING SECTIONS
9219.14 AND 9219.15 OF THE WEST
COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING
TO OFF-STREET PARKING REQUIRE-
MENTS"
We just got this report
tonight.
I think it is related to the Rml
zone and I think it is a crime
I think we should hold this to
the next meeting.
Councilman Towner.- This report lays out the basis
on which the Planning Commission
recommendation was made. I have no objection to holding it over again
but I think we are running out of time because every day you wait
somebody else walks in for a building permit.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the ordinance regarding off-street parking be held until the
next regular meeting, February 10, 1964.
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CITY ATTORNEY - Continued
ORDINANCE NO, 841
ADOPTED
Page Thirty -Five
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND-
ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE
SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES"
(ZC NO. 280, Gemite, Inc,)
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance,
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
ordinance be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows-.
Ayes-. Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent-. None
Said ordinance was given No, 841,
RESOLUTION NO, 2852
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes-.
The City Attorney presented-.
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
APPROVING PRECISE PLAN OF
DESIGN N0, 319 AND GRANTING
VARIANCE NO, 472" (Lark Ellen
Hospital)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Councilman Towner: I understood it to be stated
on the record that this hospital
or convalescent building had to be approved by the licensing
authorities and the reason I ask that was because of the number of
stories involved, I would like to have that confirmed as to whether
that was the information we had, Does anybody have any recollection
or does the record show that? I thought Dr, Mintz made that statement,
Councilman Snyder-. They would have to be approved
by the licensing authorities,
It does require a State license and they are very strict,
Councilman Towner-. I have no objection to the
building or the use if there is
that further requirement that they meet these safety requirements of
the license,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows-
Ayes-. Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes-. None
Absent.- None
Said resolution was given No, 2852,
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CITY ATTORNEY - Continued
RESOLUTION NO, 2853 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
DENYING A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE
OF ZONE" (ZC No, 282, city
Initiated)
Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will .
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: Councilman Heath
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2853,
RESOLUTION NO, 2854 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
AMENDING RESOLUTION NO, 1277
BY THE ADDITION THERETO OF A
CLASS SPECIFICATION FOR THE
CITY COUNCILMEN'S SECRETARY"
Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes- None
Absent- None
Said resolution was given No, 2854,
RESOLUTION NO, 2855 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
APPOINTING THE MAYOR AS THE
AGENT OF THE COUNCIL WITH RESPECT
TO THE CITY COUNCILMEW S
SECRETARY"
Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
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RESOLUTION NO, 2855 m Continued
Page Thirty -Seven
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2855,
RESOLUTION NO, 2856
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
GRANTING A LEAVE OF ABSENCE WITH
PAY TO DONALD GAREIS"
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2856,
RESOLUTION NO, 2857
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Attorney presented:
P°A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
AMENDING CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF
RESOLUTION NO, 1277 RELATING TO
SALARIES`,
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2857,
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CITY ATTORNEY,_Continued
Page Thirty -Eight
RESOLUTION -NO, 2858 The City Attorney presented -
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.
APPOINTING MABC-L I, HO.FFLAND
CITY TREASURER TO FILL THE
UNEXPIRED TERM OF FERN SAYERS
MERRY"
City Attorney, Mr, Williams; (Read body of resolution in full,)
I have no particular fears that
this will hold to April, I think you have to give more thought
about what would happen,
Councilman Towner- The office is vacated at this
time and there is no line of
succession,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams- The law is that the City Council
appoints to fill the position.
If you leave it vacant there is no way of'getting the money out of the
City's bank account. She has to be bonded,
Councilman Towner- This is a position of tremendous
power and influence, I have
heard she can put it under her mattress if this was what she wanted
to do with the money, I haven't interviewed Mrs, Hoffland except
to see her around the City and she is a likable person but as far as
her attitudes toward the control of the City money and the deposit
of the City money I don't know what she will do,
Mayor Barnes- I think this is Mr, Aiassa's
recommendation on a temporary
basis, For the present we must have someone authorized to go to the.
bank at this time,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams- I think we can say this: The
indication she has given and
I don't say it is binding, is that she had no intention of making any
change in the banking arrangements,
Councilman Snyder- The bonding company will
investigate her and there is
no way that anybody could snitch money even if they put it under their
mattress because this is all audited,
Councilman Towner- I have no question at all about
her integrity. The point is
this- That she does have the power to take all of the,money out.._Q-f
onebankand put it in another bank which is tremendous power. I
don t know what her attitude or position is toward this kind of thing,
Councilman Snyder- I can understand your question.
I know her very well as a
patient as well as having seen her around the City and I don't think
you have anything to fear,
Councilman Jett- I have known her for 109 129
15 years, I don°t think there
would be any question there,-
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and you might get anybody in there,
Page Thirty -Nine
I doubt if she would change
anything. Anybody could run
City Clerks Mr, Flotten.- We have already talked to Mrs.
Hoffland and she is working very
closely with the Finance Division who more or less keep tract of where
our deposits are and she is not making any moves or won't make any moves
until she checks with Mr. Kay first,
Councilman Towner.- I have no objection to her
shifting deposits around or
doing what is necessary in accordance with her job but I just want to
be sure that no drastic moves are made at this time or that the power
be put in the hands of a person who might misuse them, not Mrs, Hoffland,
Mayor Barnes.- Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes.- Councilmen Towner$ Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes.- None
Absent.- None
Said resolution was given No, 2858,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams.- I think the Council should
adopt a motion authorizing the
auditors who performed a post audit function for the City, Cotton
and Francisco, to make an immediate audit of the City Treasurer's
books as of the date of her death and prior to the newly appointed
City Treasurer assuming responsibility and establishing by this
audit her accountability of the office and the balance transferred
from one City Treasurer to the other,
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, to
authorize the auditors who performed a post audit function for the
City to make an immediate audit of the City Treasurer's books as
of the date of her death; as recommended by Attorney Williams. Motion
Passed on roll call, as follows°
Ayes.- Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes.- None
Absent.- None
City Attorney,, Mr, Williams.- I think you should adopt a
motion requesting each of the
banks in which City funds are deposited to provide a break -off statement
for auditing purposes as soon as possible and provide the same to the
auditors as of the date requested,
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to request each: -of the banks in which City funds are deposited to
provide a break -off statement for auditing purposes as soon as possible
and provide the same to the auditors as of the date requested,
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RESOILUTION NO. 2858 - Continued
Cityi Attorney, Mr. Williams: Mrs. Merry's death terminates the auth-
ority of the Deputy so there is nobody
who can sign the checks.
RESOLUTION NO. 2859 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AUTHOR-
IZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO INCUR
LITIGATION EXPENSES IN AN AMOUNT
OF NOT TO EXCEED $100000 IN COOPER-
ATION WITH OTHER CITIES,"
Mr,IWilliams: The city attorneys of Los Angeles,
Orange and Ventura County have held
a joint meeting and they have discussed the fact that frequently a case
arises that is of threat to the cities as a whole, to the home rule;
for example, the Carole Lane case. By the time we can go to our city
councils, have them meet, get an authorization, and so forth, it is
toollate to get a pitch in. The recommendation has been made by these
city attorneys that each city attorney obtain from his council author-
ity;to spend up to $100.00 in conjunction with other cities when a com-
mittee of three prominent city attorneys judging the facts and submitting
them to Bud Carpenter and he agrees that it is a case that all cities
should,participate in,
Maylor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
j body of the resolution.
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Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call. as follows:
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Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2859.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2860 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA DESIG-
NATING TAXATION DISTRICTS FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR 1964-65"
Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Moltion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
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RESOLUTION NO. 2860 - Continued,:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
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Said resolution was given No, 2860.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2861
j ADOPTED
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Mayor Barnes:
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The City Attorney presented:
,,A RESOLUTION OF THE.CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA DESCRI-
BING A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE CON-
SOLIDATED COUNTY FIRE PROTECTION`
DISTRICT WHICH HAS' BEEN INCLUDED
WITHIN THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AND
DECLARING THE SAME WITHDRAWN FROM
SAID DISTRICT" (fs,F- t/-/83)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
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Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes'
Noes: None
Absent: None
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CITY MANAGER REPORTS
LARK ELLEN AVENUE STORM DRAIN
Project SD-6320
Mr, Dosh:
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STORM DRAIN LAND ACQUISITION
State Property LA 6429
MR, DOSH:
We will hold this off to next
week.
(Presented photographs and
explained same.) I sent a
memorandum to Mr. Aiassa re this
matter dated January 2, 1964, I
would like the recommendation in-
cluded in the Minutes:
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"RECOMMENDATION-
"la That the City assume all of the necessary liaison with
the State in order to receive this right of way relinquishment
from the State ands, in turn, dispose of it to the property
owners upon completion of improvements at their cost,
"2, That the City perform the necessary engineering, which
would include plans and constructiong staking to accomplish
this work, We have already made preliminary investigations
to determine the pipe size, etc,, which we must have to obtain
the State relinquishment,
"3, We should acquire a bond or bonds from the property
j owners to complete the construction within a specified time
limit (12 months) and, at the same time, receive the
guarantee from the State that upon completion of this work
the property would be transferred to the City. This is
assuming that the State would not relinquish the property
upon presentation of the bond(s) and approved plan for the
improvements,"
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
that the City Staff be authorized to proceed with the engineering
onithe storm drain known as LA 6429 on the basis of the recommendation
of ;the Staff,
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Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh- We have already taken care of
this,
Mr! Gerald Weeks- In the recruitment of hiring
this girl could the Personnel
Department go ahead and examine the technical aspects of typing and
shorthand?
Mayor Barnes- We would like to see the
application,
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Mr o Gerald Weeks- Would it be agreeable with
the Council to have an oral board
set up with the Council?
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Mayor Barnes- I think that would be a good
idea,
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Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh- We received two letters this
week, the day after our meeting
with Mr,Schaub and Mr, Jones, Mr, Jones sold half of his property to
Mr Schaub and he owns from the center line of Merced Avenue south,
Mr,, Jones retains ownership of the northern half of Merced. We have
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MERCED ALIGNMENT - Continued
Page Forty -Three
to deal with two people, We brought them together to ask what their
intentions were and they in turn wrote us these letters, We also
discussed what we would do with the property bought from Mr, Skelton,
We would like to have the City Council also put the City property in
this zoning study because their study is to include all the property
fronting on Glendora back to,a certain depth,, This should be
considered along with these two propery owners who do have frontage.
on Glendora,, Our request is to include these two property owners and
the City's property in the study,, I have talked to them and there
will be no extra charge,,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Nett, and carried,
that the two properties owned by Mr,, Jones and Mr,, Schaub along with
the City's property be included in the Glendora Avenue Study,,
Councilman Towner; There was a letter offering us
this contract from these
particular people and I was wondering whether we changed the terms of
that as to the time limit,, It was my recollection it was 90 days and
we voted 60,,
Councilman Jett:
Public Services Director, Mr,, Dosh:
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Towner:
Public Services Director, Mr,, Dosh:
Mayor Barnes;
I understood it was 60,, Have
you signed that contract yet?
Not that I am aware of.
I understand they are already
working on it,,
They offered 90 days, didn't
they?
Yes,
I signed the contract,
Councilman Towner: I was concerned that we in-
advertently changed the lime
limit so they couldn't do all these things they were intending to do,
Public Services Director, Mr,, Dosh; They have been working on this,,
They have had someone out here
three times during the past week but he hasn't been talking about,
this to us, He is picking up information,, Before we go into this
program, do you want to demolish the house or rent it, or what?
We are not going to be pushing the street through for the next
few months,, There is no point in demolishing it if you can rent it,
Councilman Heath: How long will it be before you
put the street in?
Public Services Director; We can't do a thing before
April, By the time we do all
these things it will take more than a few months,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams:
You can rent it,
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MERCED ALIGNMENT Continued
Councilman Heath: If you move somebody in there
at so many dollars a month
they Bet in there and they say their water line is plugged up and
they need this and that,
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the City Clerk be authorized and instructed to rent the house
recently acquired by the City from Mr. Skelton, the amount of rent
to be left up to the City Clerk, (Councilman Heath voted "No",)
.. CITY CLERK
APPLICATION FOR TRANSFER OF ON -SALE BEER
LICENSE OF ALEXANDER G, AND JULIA A,
McDONALD, DBA FOOTSIEVILLE, 2233 EAST
GARVEY AVENUE
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: The Police Chief recommends
no protest,
Mayor Barnes: We have no objections,
STARDUST BOWL
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: The Stardust Bowl is dropping
one of the partners, There
is no protest recommended on this one either.
Mayor Barnes: We have no protests,
PUBLIC SCHOOLS WEEK. .
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten:
Mayor Barnes:
BROTHERHOOD WEEK
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten:
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This is for April 20 to 24,
1964,
If there are no objections,
I will so proclaim,
(There were none,)
So proclaimed,
This is for February 16 to 23,
1964,
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BROTHERHOOD WEEK - Continued
Mayor Barnes:
NATIONAL CRIME PREVENTION WEEK
Page Forty -Five
If there are no objections,
I will so proclaim,
(These were none.)
So proclaimed.
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: I havea request from the
National Exchange Club to
proclaim February 9 through 15 as National Crime Prevention Week,
Mayor Barnes:
CITY TREASURER
If there are no objections,
I will so proclaim,.
(There were none,)
So proclaimed,
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
to accept the Treasurer's report for December, 1963, and place it on
file,
MAYOR'S REPORTS
VINCENT AVENUE INTERCHANGE.
Councilman Snyder: It is my understanding that we
have reached the point where in
effect we cannot back off on Center Street, that if we backed off on
Center Street now there is some cost that we would likely have to pay
and there is court precedent for this, In effect, it ties up the
whole interchange problem and we are pretty well stuck as far as I
can see,
Mayor Barnes: The comment was they had had
the first preliminary hearing
and there would be preparation of briefs and the present hearing
and cost incurred by the attorneys on the other side would possibly
amount to as much as. the cost of the condemnation of the land itself,,
We don't know this9 neither do they,
Councilman Snyder: I understand that as far as
Plan A and Plan B goes, they
liked the plan that was somewhere in between A and B and they also
said to drop the present plan and put a new plan such as either Plan
A or B or one in between would take as long as two and a half years
before it could be gotten through the proper agencies including the
Federal agencies,
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VINCENT AVENUE INTERCHANGE - Continued
Mavor Barnes:
Page Forty -Six
I.didn't hear that,
Councilman Heath: Neither did I, They took Plan
B and said they couldn't live
with it and they revised it and made modifications to try to make it
work and they still could not live with it because of three separate
intersections which had to be signalized and they said it was a problem,
They didn't even consider Plan A.
Councilman Snyder: There is still a possibility
of an improved interchange but
it would take up to two and a half years to change the interchange
on there,
Councilman Heath:
I don't think there was any
discussion on that,
Councilman Towner: I talked to Mr, Hoy on the
telephone and he did confirm
my conversation that if we changed horses at this time that we would
incur what he expressed to me would be several years away. I gathered
there would be a long delay on it, In other words, we would have to
start all over from scratch and wash out a tremendous expense and
effort and everything they put into it plus the expense that would
be incurred with a pending lawsuit if we washed it out, My attitude
toward this is this: There isn't an awful lot of difference between
these various proposals or plans, The one we had started on its way
is not really tremendously different than the other proposals made
by Gruen and there is funds for this plan that is presently pending
which includes the Center Street, It is my theory we ought to get
the action going and get the interchange cleaned up and put in there,
Councilman Snyder: I think in view of these facts
the public should know we
can hardly do anything else but I do feel we should ask Victor Gruen
in view of the fact that in effect we have lost part of the frontage
road, the continuity in that area, in view of these facts if he can
come bark with any recommendation on how to accomplish this,
Mayor Barnes:
I think that is a good idea,
Councilman Towner: They have already indicated
that they spent more than
their allotted time on Vincent Avenue,
Councilman Snyder: I still think that is important,
the free flow on that side of
the shopping center from east to west, I would be willing to pay
additional funds to see if he can come up with an answer for it
or not,
Councilman Heath:
We were just talking about
if we made any changes in here
it would delay it,
Councilman Snyder: He can't make changes; he has
to come up with a suggestion
in view of what is going in there in the way of an interchange,
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VINCENT AVENUE INTERCHANGE m Continued
Councilman Towner:
Councilman Snyder:
Councilman Heath:
put it in anyhow and this is going to
This is not the right.attitude,
Page Forty -Seven
I think if we put it in this
way people are going to use the
freeway,
That is.what we want to avoid.,
We are not satisfied with this
interchange but'we are going to
be inhere for a long time.,,
Councilman Jett: I think one of the most important
points here is that the State
is going to do what they want to do there or -we are going to sit here,
In effect, this is just what they told us the other.night, Either you
take what we feel is good and what we will do or just sit there, This
opens up Center Street that they are all hollering about and it gives
us a good flow,
Councilman Towner: I certainly have reservations
about this plan, strong ones,
but the thing that pushes me is I want some,actiono I want the
Vincent Avenue Interchange solved, Maybe by pushing this I might be
making a big mistake so the suggestion to send it to Victor Gruen
and let him study it at extra cost is fine with me,
Councilman Snyder: I think we should send it to
him, Secondly, I think he
has a responsibility, although we will probably have to pay him more,
but he should have known that this was impossible so in effect, since
it wont work the way he suggested, it is his ressonsibility to either
say he can't come up with anything that.will work better than we have
or make suggestions,
Councilman 'Towner: I think probably it would work,
The question is that the State
now is. in a position where they are just fooling around with it,
Councilman Jett: Did he tell you they had had
the pretrial on Center.S,treet
on.the condemnation?
Mayor Barnes: The final pretrial comes up
in April,. The final trial
is May 11,
Councilman Towner: If we lose the present allot-
ment then we have to start
all over again,
Councilman Snyder: I would like to go ahead as of
now but I would also like to make
sure they review the A plan,
Mayor Barnes: I think the important thing is
to get this done and I don't
want to hold it up for two more years, They have one appraisal,
They have their own staff appraisers but I think that the City Council
of West Covina should recommend that they get one more appraisal as
soon as possible, I think if we make a motion tonight to accept
this we should also include that they ask for one more appraisal,
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VINCENT AVENUE INTERCHANGE - Continued
Councilman Heath: I am confused here,.We have
an interchange which I have
objected to from the time it was incepted and now we feel that we
want to hang it, I don't think we have the time, I feellt'hat on
Center Street that is the deadline that we are worried ahout.right
now and proceeding with Center Street and I think we should by all means
proceed with Center Street, If the Council at this late date now
realizes the shortcomings in this interchange I think it's too late,
Councilman .Snyder:
Councilman Heath:
that could help us,
Why do you think we asked for
this study?
Victor Gruen didn't do any good,
He didn't come up with anything
Councilman Towner: The alternatives Mr, Marks
presented were in accordance
with State design standards, The State feels they have done enough;
they have committed enough;.and they would like to finish this thing
off because they have an allotment of money, I still think there is
room to negotiate but we have to keep the action alive and the nego-
tiations alive,
9. Councilman Heath: They told us the Victor Gruen
plan cannot be used,
Mayor Barnes:
They claim the loons are too
short, there are too many
signals and too close together,
Councilman Snyder: There are possibilities of
other plans there9 something
between the A and B, even with Center Street,
Councilman Towner: Mr, Marks told us at the time
of our negotiations with him
about the contract that he was able to discuss these things with the
State Division of Highways, that he was familiar with their techniques,
problems and procedures and he felt he could sell his design to the
State,
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Snyder:
to grant rights of way through there?
Mr, Phil Wax:
Councilman Snyder:
They didn't want it,
Didn't we have some promises
from people in the old center
That's right,
Shouldn't the staff be directed
to negotiate with them now?
to negotiate with those property owners Move that the Staff be instructed
at least verbally) who
promised to grant the right of way through the old center,
Councilman Towner: I am under the impression that the
State is still open to some
negotiation on this regarding the interchange,
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Councilman Snyder:
Page Forty -Nine
I am talking about different
property,
Councilman Towner:. I think it might be.premature
because I would like to find
out what we have from the State in the way of readjustment of this,
Councilman Snyder:
If we can get this promise in
writing it wouldn't hurt anything,
Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: Before you pro-,eed along these
lines, looking at this map over
here, if this design goes in it is going to wipe out a tremendous amount
of parking of the Center,
Councilman Snyder: I will withdraw my motion,,
Move that the Staff be
authorized to contact Mr. Gruen and obtain his cost for restudying.
his solution to this Vincent Avenue Interchange problem in view of
the new facts as presented and also in.view of the fact the State
has turned down his other interchange and see if he can come up with
recommendations,
Councilman Heath: I think he did a'job that
wasn't satisfactory andI think
he should do it,
Councilman Towner: I think certainly it should be
brought to his :attention,'.. I
got the.impression'that he indicated to us that he.was capable of
designing an interchange that would be acceptable to the StatE and
he -was familiar with negotiating with them and we are wondering if
he can't give us a little more performance on that promise,
Councilman Heath:
Councilman Towner:
Councilman Snyder:
At no extra money,
I don't intend to criticize
him because I don't know what
he has done,
I will withdraw my motion,
Move that the staff be
instructed to ask Mr, Gruen to restudy the Vincent Avenue Interchange
problem as well as the circulation on the north side of the business
district, the through circulation, and make recommendations; that he
should be given the information that the State has not accepted his
previous plan,
Councilman Towner:
Maybe we should hold off your
motion because we are going to
meet with him on Thursday,
Councilman Snyder: There is no harm in letting the
staff warn him so he will be
able to say whether or not he can do it,
Councilman Heath: I will second the motion,
Action on Councilman Snyder's motion: Motion carried.
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MAYOR'S REPORTS.- Continued
ITEMS GOING ON BALLOT
Mayor Barnes:
Page Fifty
When would the Council like to
discuss items to go on the ballot?
We have to do this soon,
Councilman Snyder; If you're going to have a meeting
to discuss items to go on the
ballot I would like pre information or a pre agenda of what those
items might be, I can't conceive of any right now myself.
Councilman Jett,
Councilman Heath:
There is only one I can recom-
mend and that is the increase
of salary,
We can think up what we want
to put on, I have a few I would
like to propose,
Councilman Snyder: If You're y going to propose
them I reasonable that we hear about them in advance think it is only
Councilman Heath:
City Attorney,, Mr, Williams:
Councilman Snyder:
City Attorneys Mr, Williams:
Councilman heath.
charter citys as a straw vote?
City Attorney,, Mr, Williams:
Councilman Snyder;
Councilman Heath;
City Attorney, Mr, Williams:
Did you ever send me a copy of
the report you made on the
charter city?
No,
We can't put that on the ballot,
It has to be by a Board of
Freeholders. doesn't it?
The City Council can draw a
charter and put it on the ballot,
Does the electorate approve
changing this City to a
There is no authorization for
taking such a straw vote,
Would the electorate approve
setting up a Board of Free-
holders?
You don't think it would be a
good idea to put it on to find
out?
No,
Councilman Heath: I think before lone the r°txy
iP going to have to go charter.
City Attorneys Mr, Williams- I don't think you do this by
the people, You do it by an education programong of the feeling of
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Mayor Barnes.,
Councilman Heath®
can take this up in a personnel study,
DEMANDS
Page Fifty -One
Put the items you want to
discuss on a memo and send
them through,
I think we want to talk about
an elected mayor. I think we
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, to approve
demands totaling $5025549,58 as listed on demand sheets B146, C363
through C366, This total includes fund transfers of $165,942,259
also funds including time deposits of $2509000,00, Motion passed
on roll call as follows;
Ayes., Councilmen Towner, Jett, Death, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes., None
Absent., None
There being no further business, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded
by Councilman Heath, and carried, that this meeting be adjourned at
12.,45 A.M. to February 39 1964 at eight o'clock P,M,
ATTEST;
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