01-20-1964 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
January 20, 1964
IsThe adjourned regular meeting of the City Council was called to order
by Mayor Barnes at 8,10 P.M. in the West -Covina City Hall.' Councilman
Towner led the Pledge of Allegiance. Councilman Jett gave the invoca-
tion.
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Present, Mayor Barnes, Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder
Others Present, Mr. George Aiassa, City Manager
Mr. Robert Flotten, City Clerk & Administrative Assistant
Mr. Thomas Jo Dosh, Public Services Director
Absent, Mr. Harry Co Williams, City Attorney
Mr. Harold Joseph, Planning Director
CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS
HEADQUARTERS CITY PRESENTATION
Chamber of Commerce
Mr. Stan Seeds, The Chamber of Commerce has es-
tablished its theme for 1964,
West Covina, Headquarters City. An organization has been set up with
the following general committees, Public Utilities, Commercial; Cul-
tural; Social; Institutional; Finance; Industry; Transportation;'Mun=
icipal Services; and Public Relations. In addition, a special Public
Relations Committee has been set up to promote them. The requirements
to meet the objectives of the headquarter concept. All committees
will work closely with officials in the West Covina Headquarters City
development.
Mayor Barnes, I think this is the right way to
proceed as far as determining what
our City should be and I hope in the future the Council and the Chamber
can work more closely together on a good idea, I would like to ask the
Council if they wish to comment and if they feel it is necessary that
we appoint a liaison to this committee from the Council.
Councilman Towner, I think first of all by way of
comment I would like to say that
I am glad we have some leadership in the Chamber of Commerce that is
exerting itself to provide us with much needed guidance and goals in
the nature of the development of this City and cooperation with the
City Council. I think one of the things that should be considered in
connection with the Headquarters City concept is a feeling of community
spirit, genuine progressive, cooperative, affirmative program. This
appears to be what the Chamber of Commerce is now developing and I
think they should be congratulated. I agree we should have liaison
representationo
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1 Councilman Heathy I think this is a tremendous program,,
There has been a lot of work put
in on it, a lot of planning, a lot of sincere thought I believe it
can only be successful if there is close coordination with the City
Council and that the City Council works as a cooperative spirit to
make this work, I think there should be a close tie between the City
and the Chamber of Commerce,, I would like to congratulate the people
who put this program together,,
Councilman Jett.- I think this is a terrific program
and it is gratifying to see as
capable a group of men in the Chamber now taking a hold of it and going
ahead with it,, I, too, would like to congratulate them,,
Councilman Snyder-. I am in agreement with the concept,,
Councilman Townero One of the things you should know
is this committee at the outset
is going.to determine just what this concept of Headquarter City means
for West Covina and tailor it to our City,,
Mayor Barnes-. I think we should nominate somebody
to be theliaison to this committee,,
Councilman Towner-, Dr,, Snyder worked on the area
development of the Chamber and was
instrumental in bringing Minneapolis -Honeywell into the City,, I
think he is familiar with some of the techniques of this type of work
and I would like to see him continue with that with the Chamber of
Commerce so I would nominate him for this particular liason committee,,
Councilman Heath-. I would second the nomination,,
Councilman Snyder-. That is fine,,
Action on Councilman Towner°s nomination-. Nomination carried,,
WORKMAN AVENUE SIDEWALKS
City Managers Mr,, Aiassa-, The Council has been informed of
this one strip of property that
is now in the County and Mr. Heath contacted some of the property
owners,, We know that the County has enacted a 1911 Act improvement
program for this sidewalk installation,, You have a copy of the report
regarding this matter,, (Read report re this matter,,) It appears
that the majority of these people are finding out this cost is very
expensive,,
We have one report that came in
J tonight,, We found only one property owner willing to go on this
sidewalk plan because the cost was so prohibitive,, At the request
of the County Department we have circulated a petition among the
property owners informing them of the cost,, There is a general
consensus that the amount of money was too expensive,, This is
the report directed to me from Thomas J,, Dosh and dated January 20,
1964,, I would like this spread in full in the Minutes-.
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0°At the request of the County Road Department we have circulated
petitions among the twenty property owners, informing them of
the approximate costs of the proposed improvement and indicating
that the County would expect our City Council to grant jurisdiction,
We have received but one signature from the twenty property owners
involved, All of the property owners were contacted. There is
a general concensus that the amount of money estimated by the
Road Department per front foot was excessive and that the property
owners were almost unanimously opposed to this exhorbitant cost,
1oe,, their opinion, and that they would still wish the City
to annex to the center of the street so that their street frontage
is in the City, as well as their property,',
/s/ Thomas J, Dosh
Public Services Director
Councilman Heath-, When I had a meeting with this
group all of these points were -
brought out as to the sidewalk program within the City, the County
costs, the County plans the 1911 Act, et cetera, There was considerable
discussion concerning double taxation whereby they are living in the
City, paying taxes into the General Fund and part of that General Fund
is being used to put in sidewalks in other areas and yet if sidewalks
were put in front of their houses under a 1911 Act they would have to
pay for their own sidewalks, However, it was the concensus that
although they did not like this idea of double taxation they still
felt they needed sidewalks and they would go along with the County and
put in the sidewalks, At that time we didn't know the cost per front
foot,
Mayor Barnes-, I wonder if we couldn't put in
the sidewalks and the County could
pay us back because we get a much better price if we have the whole
thing in one project,
Councilman Heath-, I am wondering how the other
district is getting such a low
price and it is evident that the price is not being extended to these
people we are concerned about,
Councilman Jett-, I can't see it running over the $3,50
figure but they say it is closer to
$5,00,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-, There are a lot of unknown problems
and they have to plan for them,
Public Services Director Mr, Dosh-, Most the County costs are in
utility reconstruction and paving
construction, The people are only paying for the sidewalks, There
is a lot more to the job than sidewalks and that is where County
participation comes in,
Councilman Heath-, I still feel the $22,000 if spread
over the area I believe would come
out to less than $3,50 a foot, Why don't our people get that price?
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11 Public Services Director Mr,, Dosh.- I don't know if the rest of them
have to remove walnut trees where
the sidewalks have to be. I do know on the basis of adding these 20
houses to the district they estimated between $3.50 and $5.00. They
think it would run closer to $5,,00 because of these unknown costs,,
They think it is fair to the property owners to tell them what the
maximum would be rather than the minimum,,
Councilman Towner.- This is the area where there was
so much concern and the Tribune ran
editorials on it, I take it the area of danger also lies along
Workman Avenueo I don't know if that particular street was included in
our priority study of sidewalks,, Could I have an answer as to where it
stands on the priority?
Public Services Director Mr,, Dosh.- The portions of it in West Covina
are in this year's program,,
Councilman Heath.- We couldn't annex that area for
four or six months,,
Councilman Towner.- I think if the City wanted to go
ahead and put it in in conjunction
with the County at this time without annexing it we would be in
Is effect making a gift of public funds to the County,, On the other
hand, if the property owners feel that the County program is unsatis-
factory because the costs are too high then they can't get their
sidewalks under that program,, The only way we can get them is to go
through the annexation proceeding, annex to the middle of the street,
and bring them in under our over-all sidewalk improvement program,,
Mayor Barnes. -
for Mr,, Aiassa to get an estimate
area, submit this to the Coutny,
sidewalks and they could possibly
be done?
I am wondering if there isn't
another way to do it and that is
of what our costs are for the other
and work it so we could put in the
add it to the 1911 Act,, Could this
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa.- I think the District the way it
is required to be set up according
to their legal minds is they are doing us a favor to bring this little
group in but it must be put on the same basis as the District that
has been established,,
Councilman Heath.- We cant annex to the middle of the
street for at least four to six
months and in the meantime I understand the County is about ready to
start installation in April,,
Public Services Director Mr,, Dosh.- April lst was the deadline they
were shooting for,,
Councilman Heath.- This easement and this irrigation
line, can we construct in there
without the permission of the owner of the easement?
Public Services Director Mr,, Dosh.-
We would have to investigate this,,
We have the right of way. They
just have a prior right in there,,
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Councilman Snyder-
If we were to
annex this,
is
there any curb
and gutter
problem?
Mr. Dosh-
Everything is
in.
Councilman Snyder-
Is there any way
we could
have a
reimbursement
agreement?
They
can go ahead with the
1911 Act and after they were
annexed the
City
could reimburse them.
Mr. Aiassa-
That would have to be checked
out by the City Attorney.
Councilman Jett- I think it's unfortunate that this
condition exists but I don't see
how we could justify to the rest of the people of West Covina who want
sidewalks annexing to the middle of the street just for the purpose '
of giving these people sidewalks. In the event they did annex to -the
City I think they should come in and wait their turn just the same as
the other people.
Councilman Snyder -
I brought that up as one possible
means of doing it.
Mro Dosh- If this were part of the City
right now, it would be in next
Is year's program. The people in West Covina who live just westerly of
this who are in the City and their streets are in the City, their
sidewalks would go in in this year's program.
Councilman Heath:
In other words, there is a good
chance that it would be in next
year's program, the 1964-65 program?
Mr, Dosh- It's possible.
Councilman Heath- Move that we begin annexation to
the middle of the street immedi-
ately and expediate this annexation as fast as we can to bring these
people into next year's sidewalk program.
Councilman Snyder- I don't think we should promise
them sidewalks except to the ex-
tent that they would be considered under our policy as a priority for
next year's budget.
Mr, Dosh- We'll make estimates. It is
certain that sidewalks in this
area are going to cost more because of this big tree removal,
Councilman Heath- I think you have a number of
problems. First, whether you
can put a sidewalk on an easement owned by someone else or who has
prior rights. However, my motion still stands, I think we should
proceed immedatelyo
Councilman Snyder- I only wanted to indicate that
we can't in this annexation ex-
actly promise them sidewalks next year, only that it will be con-
sidered under our sidewalk policy.
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WORKMAN AVENUE SIDEWALKS - Continued
Is Councilman Towner-,
residents in the City,,
people are already in
is not in the City is
have been West Covina
to be included in this
them the same as other
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They would be included in the
priority program the same as other
I think it should be made clear that these
the City,, The only part of their property that
that portion where you build a sidewalk,, They
taxpayers for some time and they are entitled
program,, The annexation is solely to treat
taxpayers in the City,,
I will second the motion,,
Action on Councilman Heath's motion-, Motion carried,,
PERSONNEL PROBLEM
(Gareis)
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassas The Council is familiar with this
case of Don Gareis,, I have a letter
from their attorney,, This letter is directed to the City Council,
attention City Manager, dated January 13, 1964 and signed by Howard C,,
Erickson,, I would like this letter read into the Minutes-,
Is `This is to advise you that I represent Donald R. Gareis, an
employee of the City of West Covina who was injured on May 18,
1958, and again on December 13, 1962,, This employee has
exhausted all of his sick leave and all other remedies and is
in need of funds,, You were kind enough at one time to pass
Section 13,,2 of Rules which gave Mr. Gareis compensation for
A period of six months,, This six months is now up and Mr,,
Gareis is still in need of funds and his Industrial Accident
case has not been settled or finally determined,,
"This letter is for the purpose of requesting that you extend
Rule 13,,2 or pass a new rule which would allow employees in his
situation to have compensation for a period of one year and
we hope and anticipate that his case will be finally disposed
of within that time,, This would then put Mr,, Gareis in the
same position as newly injured employees are under Section 13.1.
namely, that they can receive compensation for a total period
of one year,,
"Your cooperation in this matter would be appreciated,,"
/s/ Howard C,, Erickson
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa-, There is a provision in our Personnel
Ordinance that gives to Council the
authority under Rule 103g to grant another extension of either six
months or three months. I discussed this with Mrs,, Gareis and their
attorney,, They are trying to bring this to a conclusion one way or
the other; either that he takes a total disability or he might be able
to come back and do his work as a police officer,, We don't want to
terminate him because it is not finalized. They have not been able
to schedule another hearing and they would like an extension of three
or six months. This would be in keeping with your present policy,,
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Councilman Snyder.- The only knowledge we have of this
Is is the letter presented by his
attorney, What is his status as far as his work is concerned?
City Managers Mr, Aiassas
Councilman Snyder. -
City Manager., Mr, Aiassa.-
Councilman Snyder. -
Mrs, Gareis.-
Councilman Towner. -
Mrs, Gareis:
I can't tell you,
Have they authorized his returning
to work?
No,
Why are they not paying his weekly
disability?
I understand it is their pre-
rogative to do as they please,
That is what I was told.
They are subject to penalties if
they don't pay in time. You can
get increased compensation from them.
I was told it was their prerogative,
Is Councilman Towner.- The only thing that concerns us
now is whether or not to continue
temporary disability. If they are getting that we could continue on a
three-month basis and see what happens at that time subject to credit
for payments made,
Councilman Snyder.- The only reason I can think of is
why they wouldn't be paying is
if they are contesting it and have certified him to go back to work,
Councilman Towner.- I think this particular insurance
company often they don't pay
because of the inadequacy of administration,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa.- My recommendation is that we
extend it for an additional three
months starting January lst with the option that if this isn't resolved
within three months we give them the additional three months to finish
it,
Mayor Barnes.- I would like to see this before it
runs out again because I think it
puts the family in a very bad position when this happens.
Councilman Snyder.- If this man is not able to return
to work then it is our responsibility
to contact State Comp and see why he is not receiving his disability,
Councilman Towner.- They should contact their attorney
and if Mr, Erickson deems it wise
they can contact us and ask for our help if they are not receiving their
payments,
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PERSONNEL PROBLEM (GAREIS) o Continued
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Is Mrs,, Gareis- There is a possibility we will know
more about it tomorrow because Don
may undergo surgery,, This will take approximately six months for him
to get on his feet and I would like to be assured that we would have
money coming in for that six months,,
Councilman Towner,, The resolution should contain what
we are going to act on and not
have something else,, The resolution should contain this three month
period of full salary subject to credit for any payments made by the
Workman°s Compensation carrier; further that upon a proper showing an
additional three months may be granted at the expiration of this tirst
period,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa-
RESOLUTION NO,, 2839
ADOPTED
V11 put that in the resolution,,
The City Manager presented -
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
AMENDING RESOLUTION NO,, 1277 BY
AN ADDITION THERETO OF CERTAIN
PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE LEAVE
OF ABSENCE WITH PAY"
Is Mayor Barnes,, Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted,, Motion passed on roll call as follows-
Ayes- Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes- None
Absent- None
Said resolution was given No,, 2839,,
Councilman Snyder- Not in relation to this case but
on the subject of industrial
accident, is there any appeal from the Industrial Accident Commission?
Councilman Towner- The chain of appeals before the
Industrial Accident Commission
from the trial court would be to the Southern Panel of the Commission
of Southern California which sits in Los Angeles It is an appellate
court and appeal from that is to the Supreme Court of the State of
California,,
Councilman Snyder- I asked this in regard to the
problem of ulcers in regard to
industrial relations,, I feel if this comes up again it should be
appealed because I feel perhaps their ruling is wrong in some cases
regarding ulcers,,
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PERSONNEL PROBLEM m Continued
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- You will get a report showing what
your total disability is, I think
it would be important for you to know how deep this can goo
Councilman Towner- There is a pending settlement which
may effect retirement credit for
the City in another case and I believe before any negotiations are
undertaken with the requirement insurer that this file could be
referred to me and I can analyze it and provide you with the amount
of credit we should be entitled to, There are, I believe, for this
same employee perhaps one or two other cases that should be included
in the retirement credit,
Councilman Snyder- The reason I feel this problem
regarding ulcers should be clarified
is this- Ulcers are very common, possibly one out of every four
people have one at some time in their lives and if you make all these
industrially connected you will not only break all the insurance
companies but you will break everybody else,
RALPHS-ZODYS
Trucks Progress Report
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- We have had a work meeting with Mr,
Ralphs and we also had two
representatives from Zodys and spent about an hour and went over the
precise plan, the reports, and everything, We found there were certain
things lacking and probably could be improved, in particular with
the avenues where the fence structure and the sign preventing trucks
going into the rear and we were assured by the representatives from
Zody°s and Ralph's they were palnning to put up a permanent protection
to the fence so it will not be knocked down and they will not permit
trucks to egress through the area, We reviewed the possibility of
closing in that loading dock and I made a tentative sketch which
Mr,' Ralph has taken to his architect where it could be semi -enclosed and
eliminate not only the noise of the trucks but also the emptying of
metal trucks and metal loads, The only problem -they are facing
is the architect wants to make studies of cost figures and so on, We
are advised that they are getting to a point of exhaustion of how
many times more we are going to have meetings and request things, I
told them if they could assure us to eliminate this truck thing in
there and keep that area as quiet as possible that this would probably
be one of the final requests we would make, They will have a report
for us in a week or two as soon as their architects can get out the
cost figures, At that time we will decide whether there are any
additional things to be done, The fence will be put in right away,
Mr. Ralph said they will immediately start developing the proper signs,
Councilman Heath- I wonder if the Council shouldn°t
be advised or made cognizant of
what this plan is, It seems to me we have had a number of plans thought
of, a number of plans executed, all of which are not practical,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- Before they will build they will
bring this in,
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RALPHS... ZODYS Continued
Councilman Heaths If this talk you had with the
representatives, if they have
thought in their own mind that the idea of just putting up a sign is
going to alleviate the condition and are going ahead on making a study
of the cost of the sign, I think they are going up the wrong alley,, I
think we should take a look at it and see what they are contemplating
doing,, I don't think you're going to resolve this problem unless you
do it right this time and do it first class. You're going to have to
block off the whole back of that store,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassao The Council has approved this fence,,
They have conformed to everything
you have shown,, Now they are going to prevent the trucks from going
through there,, They are putting heavier pipe in so the trucks cannot
knock down the fence. The ones that cause the problem are the small
panel trucks running up to this ramp,, As far as the trucks running
through this area they will not be able to run through but the employees
can still park there,,
Councilman Towner,, I think we are relying on the good
will of the developer and I think we
have gotten good cooperation from them,, The only way we can change
this problem is to pick the whole building up and move it out about 50
feet,, I think we should appreciate the cooperation we are getting
from Ralphes and Zody°s and try to make the best out of it,,
Councilman Snyder.- I think also we should recognize
that Ralph°s and Zody°s are going
beyond what is required of them if they do what Mr,, Aiassa has
suggested,, We cant require them to do this under the law,,
Councilman Heath.- The point I am bringing up is this -
Since that building was put in
we have done many things to resolve this problem,, I think that the
Council with the help of the staff should make a final determination
of what is needed for once and for all to alleviate the condition
and then ask Ralph's and Zody°s for the last time to help along this
line,,
Mayor Barnes.- If we can put up a fence that is
permanent that keeps these trucks
from going back and forth 'and then 'get the cooperation of
Ralph°s to put in a ramp that recedes so that these trucks cant be
seen quite so vividly from the property owners standpoint and also
the noises diminished, I think this would be a good thing for the
property owner and above what the plan calls for,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa.- We researched all the Minutes of
the property owners and in con-
clusion the original suggestion of a solid block wall fence would have
resolved a lot of the confusion,, You have the problem of traffic of
the employees parking their cars back there and also the stipulation
of the Fire Chief that he did not want that blocked,, If we can close
this and keep the -vehicles out you might get some satisfaction,,
Mayor Barnes,, What was their comment when you
pointed out these parking stalls
for employees that have now become a loading dock?
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RALPHS - ZODYS - Continued
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa- This is a technical thing,,
Councilman Jett- This has a tendency to come up
about every other month,, I think
we are spending a lot of time here that is wasted,, Why don°t we do
this- Let's assign this to the staff, let them make a study and come
up with a recommendation and abide by that recommendation,,
Councilman Snyder- Not only the precise plan, but if
you -come back with what they are
willing to do extra, that is the most we can hope for,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa- I think both Ralph°s and Zody°s
would like to end all this trouble,,
If we are going to keep bringing it back up we might as well forget
it because with five different people plus the staff the conclusions
will never reach an end,, I also feel that the property owners have
a responsibility that they want answers for,,
Councilman Jett- My recommendation wasn°t to stop
the traffic from going through.
Lets wait to see what their report comes up with,, Let the staff
make a study of this and by working with the property owners and Ral.ph.s®
Zodys come Dack here with the results,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassao Fine,,
GAS TAX FUND
Progress Report S,,B,, 344
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa- This is a progress report for the
Council,, We want to keep you
posted as to the amount of money you will have available. The staff'
has not completed their final report,, I don't want the staff to"spend
hours and hours of work if you're going to tie up the entire amount of
money,, We have to conform with this Senate Bill to fill out this
report,,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the City Council state a policy that they would put the extension
of Azusa Avenue as No,, 1 priority for the use of the gas tax money
under Senate Bill No,, 344 and that we make application to tie up the
money for that program,,
SALARY MEETING WITH EMPLOYEES AND COUNCIL
Mr,, Dan Martin On December 3 the Personnel Board
President met with the representatives from
Employees' Association the Employees and came up with a
recommendation and sent you a
letter on this. We sent you a letter on December 11 regarding this
same matter,, We started at 9 1/2% with the Personnel Board justifying
it and we asked for 7 1/2%,, The Personnel Board did recommend 6%,
that we use 20 cities for the survey and urged we go back to the July
raises,, We don't feel this is what we asked for but we feel this is a
very serious consideration by the Personnel Board and we are satisfied
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SALARY MEETING WITH EMPLOYEES AND COUNCIL m Continued
with their dealings, We urge no less than 6% and we urge the July
raise mainly because this has an affect on our retirement system,
Councilman Snyder-. Would you explain how the July
raise affects your retirement system?
Mr, Dan Martin-. All our retirement dates back to
July lst, We would lose that much
in salary,
Mr, James Rasp We presented a salary survey to
Vice President the Personnel Board which did
Employees' Association deviate a little bit from past
practices with the City of West
Covina, We presented this to the Personnel Board which we feel are
people you have appointed to fill a position for you, We gave them
the facts they weighed them, They did feel we were justified in
what we had asked for, at least some of the things we had asked for,
We realize we have made a few deviations from past practices with
the City but we do feel these are justified, The City of West Covina
is growing quite a bit, We arE now in a different environment than
we have been in the past, I honestly feel what we recommended and
what the Personnel Board has decided upon is satisfactory to both us,
the Employees' Association, and the Personnel Board,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-. We received a letter from A,
Robert Cole, Chairman, Personnel
Board, City of West Covina, directed to Mayor Claude L, Barnes, and
dated December 4, 1963, I would like this spread in full in the
Minutes-.
01As you know the West Covina Personnel Board has been working
on salary studies with the Employees' Association for several
months, This included 3 surveys made by our Personnel
Department, and 3 additional surveys compiled by the
Employees' Association, Enclosed are copies of the survey
information for the Council'°s consideration,
"We have had several study sessions to arrive at what we feel
is a fair and equitable recommendation and it is made well in
advance of the effective date of January 1, 1964, This was
done so the Council will have time for their consideration.
The motion made at the December 3, 1963, meeting of the
Personnel Board is as follows -
"Mr,, Zoelle-. °I will make a motion that the Personnel Board
recommend to the City Council a 6% across-the-board increase
in salaries for all full time and limited service employees,
excluding Department Heads, elected officials and all
officials appointed by the City Council, This 6% should tape
care of the 6 months the city employees have been behind,'
'It is further recommended, that the same 20 cities be
surveyed in a July review of salaries and the arithmetic
average of across-the-board increases granted by -those
cities be used as a guide in arriving at a salary recom-
mendation at that time,'
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SALARY MEETING WITH EMPLOYEES AND COUNCIL ® Continued
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'It is also recommended that it be made city policy that
future salary adjustments be made annually in July, using
the same 20. cities as a guide and the same method of
computation be used.'
"Motion seconded by Mr, Chamlee, Those in favor-. Chairman
A, Robert Cole, Francis Zoelle, Williard Fortier, William
Chamlee, Edwin Faunce,"
/s/ A, Robert Cole, Chairman
Personnel Board
City of West Covina
City Manager, Mro Aiassa-. Also included in the Minutes I
would like the letter dated
December 11, 1963 directed to the City Concil from Dan Martin
and Jim Rasp-.
"The Personnel Board of the City of West Covina has made a
recommendation at its meeting of December 3, 1963, concerning
employees salaries for the coming year and methods for future
salary surveys. We believe its recommendation is in your
hands at the present time,
"The West Covina City Employees' Association feels that the
Personnel Board has given us a fair hearing and has come to a
reasonable decision, although not all of our requests have been
met, We furthermore feel that its recommendation concerning
thb cities to be used in future surveys is satisfactory and will
do much to alleviate the discord that occurs every year during
salary surveys. However, we sitll think that the contract
cities should also be considered, as they are a factor in
determining salaries in this area, The twenty cities recom-
mended provide a good cross-section of local cities of
approximately the same size and quality as West Covina,
"The Personnel Board's recommendation for making salary sruveys
and adjustments in July rather than in January meets with our
approval, as it does not require extra adjustments to make up
for six months difference in salaries in January. However, it
may make surveying a little more difficult,
"We would like to bring to your attention the fact that the
Personnel Board has based its recommendation only upon bringing
West Covina employees' salaries up to the average, We wish to
point out that during the last two salary surveys and for many
years, your honorable body has decided that you wanted a small,
compact, highly efficient working force, and in order to attain
this, it necessitated paying salaries commensurate with the
concept of an above average city employee. However, the
Personnel Board felt that it could not recommend anything of
this nature, as it is a policy decision to be made by the
City Council, We whould like to request that you give con-
sideration to this, and attempt to set salaries that will both
recruit and keep employees of the high caliber you require,
Unless some positive action is taken, we cannot comprehend
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how West Covina can hope to attract an above average employee
with the questionable inducement of middle-of-the-road wages."
/s/ Dan Martin, President, W,C,C,E,A,
/s/ Jim Rasp, Vice President, W,C,C,E,A
Mayor Barnes- We did have a meeting on the 14th
with the Personnel Board, We
felt tonight that if the employees wished to be here and hear the
Council discuss this it was their prerogative and they should be
invited,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassao We have never officially accepted
the letter from the Personnel
Board in the Council records because it was handed to us at a working
session, We have never accepted the letter from the Employeese
Association, either,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the letter from the Personnel Board and the letter from the
Employees' Association re this matter be accepted and placed on file,
Councilman Heathy I am sorry I could not attend this
meeting on the 14th between the
Council and the Personnel Board, I read all of the Minutes of the
Personnel Board and also the letters presented to them and written
by them concerning the study, One of the questions I had in mind was
the fact that in the Personnel Board Minutes while the Personnel Board
was on the floor the general consensus was there would be a 3% or
so raise and they evidently went into a personnel study and came out
:with the idea of a 6% raise, It has been expressed, and I have hopes
that we can elaborate and clarify why this change was made, because
there was a thought at this time that it was done for "spite" due
to the fact that the Council overruled the Personnel Board last year,
If this was the case that the Personnel Board arbitrarily raised their
feelings of 3% to 6% because of what the Council did last year I don°t
think they are justifying a 6% raise, I am asking for a point of
information,
Councilman Towner- After attending the workshop
session with the Personnel Board
and also reading all the information, I think basically the point of
difference is merely in the selection of the cities involved as to
which comparisons will be made, The Personnel Board deviated from
the 12 cities and recommended consideration of 20 cities and it is
on this basis alone I think that the salary increase recommendation
jumped to 6%0 I think the real issue before the Council tonight is
whether or not we are going to stick with the 12 cities we set up
previously or whether we are going to make a change and go to the 20
cities,
Councilman Snyder- I think it is evident from your
figures the fact that they
recommended the 20 cities that they made the recommendation on the
basis of the 20 cities instead of the 12mcity average,
Councilman Heaths That answers my question,
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Councilman Towner- Frankly, in listening to the Personnel
Board I didn't get any particular
satisfactory explanation on the reason for the change and I would
like to give an opportunity to the employees' representatives to
give us briefly some comment why the 20 cities were recommended or
selected, if they have that information.
Mr, Dan Martin- I don't know if the Personnel Board
you met with was a fair
representation, There was only one member there and a past member.
Mr, Jim Rasp- This year on selecting the cities
the Employees' Association has
never met too favorably with the selection of the 12 cities,, We
didn't feel it was a fair representation of the City of West Covina,
The last salary survey the employees thought we needed more cities
to compare with, This year what we attempted to do was try to set
a criteria for selecting the cities in the first place, We felt this
criteria should encompass the population and the assessed valuation
or ability to pay for the services rendered, We set a limit down of
cities within 50% of West Covina's population, the population of
48,110, We selected the nearest 10 cities above and the nearest
cities below, This system gives you an average city that is closest
to West Covina, The last few years the salary survey has averaged
out in population about 36,000 people compaired to West Covina's
58,000. We don't think this is a valid average city that we should
use in comparing West Covina, We tried to limit this in just Los
Angeles County, The average city of these 20 that we propose still
does.not come to West Covina average; it is about 49,000 population
average as compared to West Covina's 58,000, I believe we have
only deleted four cities from that list that were less than 29,000,
We deleted Azusa, Covina, Glendora and San Gabriel:, all of which
do fall below West Covina. We added the cities of South Gate,
Lynwood, Compton, Gardena, Inglewood, Hawthorne, Beverly Hills,
Culver City, Manhattan Beach, Redondo Beach, Santa Monica, and
Huntington Park. We have selected cities which will vary each
year or every once in a while by the very nature of the way we select
them, We have a method of selection which will go with us from now
on which won't change year after year.
Councilman Towner- Your selection was based on
population?
Mr, Jim Rasp- Mainly on population and assessed
valuation,
Councilman Towner- You say you felt the geographical
area did not bear on the question?
Mr, Jim Rasp- If it beared on the question it
would bear toward larger cities,
Councilman Towner- I am talking about a geographical
location of the City. Did you
consider that as one of your criteria?
Mr, Jim Rasp- I have a list of about 120 cities
within a 50®mile radius.
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Councilman Towner-, If I understand it, the eventual
outcome you decided was to stick
to Los Angeles County as such and within Los Angeles County you made
your studies on the basis of population and assessed valuation,,
Mr,, Jim Rasp -
Councilman Towner-,
Mr,, Jim Rasp. -
That's correct,,
Those are the criteria, those
three subjects?
Yes,,
Councilman Snyder-, The 12 cities that we used
previously, did you discard the
four you discarded because they did not meet the criteria of popu-
lation or assessed valuation?
Mr,, Jim Rasp-, Yes,, They were all too smallo
Councilman Heath-. Why the locale doesn't have some
relationship is something I don't
understand,,. The cities in this locale are the ones we are competing
against; therefore, I think that these cities immediately adjacent
to the City are the cities we should be comparing against,, If there
is any pirating of employees or changing by employees at their own
will to some other location I would say 99 out of 100 times they
will go to a city in almost the immediate locale rather than go
from here to South Gate or Redondo Beach,,
Mr,, Jim Rasp-, Our biggest turnover is in police
and fire,, I think of the six
jurisdictions that border on West Covina, I believe .five of them are
serviced by the County in either the police or fire departments,,
Councilman Heath-, There has been a statement made
over the years that we have lost
a lot of people to the Sheriff's Department and to the County,, I
would like to know in the next few days exactly how many we have lost
to the Sheriff over the past four years or to the County,,
City Manager, Mr,,.Aiassa-, All right,,
Councilman Heath-, I am just curious because in the
past there have been statements
made,, As I understand the plan proposed of 6% would mean 3% for
parity and 3% to take it above the other cities, is this about right?
Mr,, Gerald Weeks-,
No,, (Presented chart entitled
"1964 Salary Survey's and explained
same,,)
Councilman Towner-, Was there any study made of the
overall County, including all
public jurisdictions? In other wordsq including contract cities,
the City of Los Angeles, Los Angeles County and all 74 cities in the
County? Do we have any studies showing what results came out of that?
Mr,, Jim Rasp-,
No
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Councilman Snyder.- In your statement you said only
two members of the Personnel Board
met with us and one is no longer a member,, I don't know what the
implication was here but I would like to say in the conference the
Personnel Board presented everything fairly,,
Mr; Dan Martino I don't mean that it was not fair
representation,
Councilman Heath.- I can't say that I would agree
to this 20-city program because
I am a firm believer of comparison in the same locale. I would have
to stick to the 12-city program and I can't see where a 20-city program
is going to help us. It will just, cause us trouble from here on out
Councilman Snyder.- I think where the breakdown of
understanding comes is this: Each
Council has to set a policy of their criteria for setting wages,, This
Council does, in effect, have a policy which was stated one or two
years ago, that in effect we wanted to be a par or a little above the
cities in our area,, I believe that is the policy in essence what
our policy was,,
Mayor Barnes.- There was a motion and a second
to the extent to this type of
policy,,
Councilman Jett.- I felt that last year I was one
in favor of giving the employees
more of a raise than recommended by the Personnel Board and as a
result have had threats of recall. At that time one of the factors
in determining that was the 12 cities and it was my understanding
at -that time that these 12 cities would be the criteria by which we
would in the future use as a basis for our consideration on the
salary schedule,, Then when we got this new list of cities and we
find that only part of the original 12 are being considered this year
and there are 20 cities and the biggest part of them are a considerable
distance from West Covina and I feel there are complications. I
can't help but feel we should continue with those cities that we are
adjacent to and going to compete with if we are going to be fair to
the people who elected us to this job and we owe an obligation to
them and we certainly owe an obligation to our City employees to
see that they have as fair treatment as possible,, I.don't see how
we can justify using 12 cities this year and 20 cities the next year
and then jumping around because it suited our purpose,, I think this,
is one of the criteria we are going to have to make a decision on.
I was a little bit startled when
the Personnel Board did come up with a recommendation to shift our
ground,, We had, I thought, established a policy as to how we ,were
going to compete in the labor market and basically using this
particular geographical and economic area and putting a stabilizer
on the salary program so we knew where we stood each year and the
employees knew where they stood each year and being realistic about
it,,
Councilman Towner.- I feel adding cities in the
southeast area of the County and
deleting the cities in our area is not in accord with our prior
policy and not in accord with what I think is good personnel practices,,
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It doesn't make
think we should
think there are
further,
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sense from the City of West Covina's standpoint, I
be consistent and stick with the 12®city survey, I
other aspects of this which I would like to discuss
I think as in the past I would
like to stick with the increment for West Covina employees which we
installed last year and which I think is good because I feel that
our particular employees are worthy of it, They are entitled to
that additional increment over the economic area in which we have
our study, In addition to that, I think they are entitled to make up
for the six-month lag. I think that the benchmark studies that
they show should be restudied but we have to accept them as valid
for this year, There may be changes that will show up when we get
down to studying this but we have to accept them as valid so the
percentage worked out on the basis of those benchmarks, I think, are
the basis on which we would have to make our determination, I would
like to ask a question of Mr, Aiassa, In this 12®city survey, what
was the salary differential that proved out?
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-,
Mr, Gerald Weeks-,
Councilman Towner-,
Mr, Gerald Weeks-,
Councilman Towner-,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-,
Councilman Towner-,
City Manager., Mr, Aiassa-,
It's in your report,
Personnel came up with 1,02 and
ours was 1,06,
On the 12-city survey how far
behind are we?
10.
And for six months you double
that., is that right?
A little over two plus,
If we were to shift to the July
mark we would add more to this,
wouldn't you?
This is probably true,
Councilman Snyder-, There are other considerations
which the Council should discuss,
One is since obviously the Personnel Board made their recommendation
on the basis of the 20=city survey when actually they should have
received permission from us first for this criteria, Actually the
correct way this should be done is to send back to the Personnel
Board to make the consideration on the basis of the 12mcity survey,
Obviously there isn't time so we will have to make this decision
without sending it back, Secondly, whether or not we should recom-
mend a reconsideration in July or a shifting of the time of cone
sideration of salary surveys,
Councilman Heath-, I have done quite a bit of
personnel work and I have never
in any case made studies on anything other than parity, Therefore,
I think the only thingwe-can do is compare with other cities and
establish your amount. I am not in favor of this little bit extra
because all you're doing is playing leapfrog, I am definitely and
positively in favor of a parity on a local basis and not something
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Page Nineteen
all over the countryside. On the basis of this, my estimation is
that we are now 1,,2% behind and possibly have been behind a little
bit, I think they should have something to make up for it, However,
I do not believe in stepping ahead and then having some other city
trying to leap over us and then we leap over them, I am not trying
to keep money from the employees; I am trying to represent the citizens
of the City and trying to be fair all around, You have your thinking
and we know how your thinking'is and your thinking about the most
money you can get, We have to have our thinking because we represent
a lot of people who are not here tonight and I don't think you can
object if we go on an equal basis with other cities because I think
this is fair,
Councilman Snyder;
I would agree
certainly if I
think the same
with that and
were you I'd
way you do,
Councilman Towner-. What I am interested in doing
myself is having a consistent
policy on salaries. I think it saves a lot of hopes and uncomfortable
hearings and all the rest, We have had an established policy which
I thought was pretty well delineated last year, As I recall, last
year we had the following worked out-. There was a decision on the
economic area in which we compete as to establishing the percentage
differences, There was a decision on the six-month lag, There was
another increment added for what we called the merit for West Covina
employees, Do we have the figure here as to what that additional
percentage was last -,-year?
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-. I think it'was 3,4 and you added
1,6° for merit and made it 50,
Councilman Towner-. If we were consistent this year
here would be the result you
would get, We would compete within our own economic area and
consider that this is more realistic and instead of considering the
areas outside our immediate area and stick to the economic unit we
previously used, This gives you a ,53% that we are below, You
double that because we are lagged by six months, This totals up
1,06a, If we are consistent we will add the merit increase of
approximately 1,,6% and you get an odd figure of 2,660. As far as
I'm concerned in order to relieve some of the difficulty that might
have been made by the Personnel Board recommendation and in order to
be as nearly as consistent as we can, I would suggest and recommend
a 3% salary increase at this time effective January 1, 1964, Then
I would, in addition to that, make the other recommendation that we
change to the July 1st fiscal year in determining our salaries not
only because of the effect on the retirement program but in order
to be consistent with other cities in the area, Thirdly, I would
recommend that it is probably time we restudied the benchmarks and
that that might be done.also,
Mayor Barnes-. We hear a lot from the other cities
regarding our own immediate area,
This is our hiring area and this is the area we get our people from
and I think if we are going to be realistic. I agree we should make
some provisions for a correction in the benchmarks, a survey, and
also pick up this lag with the other cities but I don't believe I
could justify a full 6% as of January lst when even with the 20 cities
there is a 4% difference. We don't know what the other cities are
going to consider in July.
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Mr, Jerry McGrath: I think we should go back to
basically what this 12-city survey
resulted in last year and why the employees have taken the stand that
it should be changed Some of the results of this 12®city survey
are quite amazing,, This 12mcity survey last year we found there was
31770 firemen in Los Angeles County,, Out of.this number there was
only 178 of them that made less than West Covina made,, The 12
cities you chose to.compare us with contained over 150 of these
of the 178 that are behind. We didn't feel that the one point that
you had to stay within the area validated out all these other things.
In coming up with 20 cities we have come up with an average city
that is much closer in assessed valuation and population than this
12®city survey,, All we want is to be paid what the average employee
is paid in a comparable city,, I don't think anybody in West Covina
would doubt or question this,,
Councilman Towner,, Certainly there is logic in
using population and assessed
valuation as a parity factor but I personally feel there is more
logic in comparing with labor markets rather than the matters of
population and assessed valuation because we are not hiring our
employees out of these cities with like populations or like assessed
valuations; we are hiring our employees out of a labor market which
is here in this area we have delineated,, For that reason, I think
we have to stick with our logical comparison,, I think also the
comment was made about the workload that the West Covina employees
carry,, We recognize this and understand it and are grateful for it
and this is the reason for adding almost double to the salary incre-
ment that provides this merit increase to West Covina employees
over the cities within this area in which we consider our labor market,,
Councilman Snyder: In averaging the amount of money
paid for medical insurance
premiums, they averaged women against men as if they were fifty-fifty,
but they are not,,
Mayor Barnes: You asked for full medical care.
The male employee was insured for much
less than the fema.le'.employee and those were the prices at that time.
If you change insurance companies then it is something else again but
at that time it was so much for male employees and so much for female
and it happened that the female employee was more expensive on the
insurance plan.
Mr, Dan Martin:
That was not our figure,
Councilman Heath: I feel the comments Mr, Towner
made a little while ago were the
the same as my feelings,, If he would care to put it in the form of
a motion, we can see how far we get with it,,
Mr, Dan Martin: The figure quoted by Mr. Towner
was quoted by me three days ago
so we knew that we were in for this. I wish we could have.been at
the meeting you had Tuesday night, It was advised'it be held in
secrecy,
Mayor Barnes: No,,
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Mr,, Dan Martino They said they were sworn to
secrecy,, This is where we feel
an insult and a hurt to the employees and the Association.
Councilman Towner:
The studies that were undertaken
by the City Council included all
of the information submitted by the Personnel Board and by the
Employees' Association and we were concerned and, the one problem as
I pointed out was the question of whether or not we went to 20 cities
instead of the 12,, This basically is the only difference,,
Mr,, Dan Martino
You are in disagreement in regard
to the fact the Personnel Board --
Councilman Towner: I am not engaging you in debate,,
I just wanted to present to you
the basis of our thinking and the fact that I feel it is unjustified
and unfair to the Council if you give the impression you are not
being given a fair hearing because it isn't true,, We have had, in
addition to all the information you presented previously, given you
the opportunity to be heard tonight if there was something we missed
and this is why I brought up right at the offset before we entered
into our deliberations and this is why I asked for the information,,
Councilman Snyder: I don't recall any swearing in
secrecy,,
Mayor Barnes: No,,
Mr,, Dan Martin: I was so advised,,
Mayor Barnes: I talked to you and Mr. Rasp
about this meeting and I said
I would ask the Council if they felt it desirable and it was the
full agreement of the Council that we meet with the Personnel Board
first before meeting with the employees and discuss all the pros and
cons and we had the advantage of all the Minutes and information
and we wanted to ask several questions,, We invited you here tonight
because we thought you deserved to be heard and hear the Council
discuss this,, I told you that you could bring up any additional
information that would help the Council in their decision,,
Councilman Snyder: There is one other point that I
haven't heard from the Employees'
Association on and that is the consideration of salaries in July.
I think this is the recommendation of the Personnel Board but I
don't know what your thinking about it is,,
Mr,, Dan Martino We felt this would be proper,, We
feel we should have been called.
for the other meeting the other day but we felt we should have been
allowed to know what had happened. Nobody would say anything. My
feeling at this point is that the 3% is predetermined,,
Mayor Barnes: No,,
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ICouncilman Towner:
i
because somebody brought up
establish the last year and
That there was presented to
last year,
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There is this unfortunate aspect
to it and that is what happened
the idea of changing the policy that would
actually what it boils down to is this:
us a program that changed the policy from .
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the salary increase for the year be 3% effective January 1, 1964;
that this includes the ,53% differential in the 12scity survey which
is doubled for the six-month lag and which has added to it 1,94%
merit increase making the total 3%; further that the anniversary
date hereafter be on a July 1st fiscal year; further that the staff
be requested in coordination with the Personnel Board to restudy
the benchmark classifications,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the City Attorney be instructed to draft a resolution in agreement
with the motion that has just been passed,
Mr, Jim Rasp: Mr, Towner, you have stated criteria
rather bluntly as to what will
be used in the future salary surveys, The City employees are
obviously unhappy with it, The Personnel Board is in disagreement
with what you gentlemen have considered, The Employees' Association
wants to change the criteria, We don't think that only recruitable
parity is a valid consideration for determining employee salary,
We will again next year ask the Personnel Board for a consideration
of other than 12 cities because we don't think you gentlemen have a
valid recommendation and we are entitled to this, How do you propose
to ever change on this? Are we stuck with this forever and ever?
Councilman Towner: Any City Council can change its
policy or its position based on
valid reasons and I think you have the opportunity each year to
present such a program if you so desire,
Councilman Heath: I would propose, Mr, Rasp, to
avoid controversy and so forth
that between now and July the Personnel -Board engage an impartial
group to make a study of comparable cities, or cities to be used for
comparison and that this impartial group determine what qualifications
these cities must have, It is quite possible we might get a report
that would recommend assessed valuation and population. We might
also get a report which would recommend locality,
Mayor Barnes:
I think a good criteria is
something the Council would look
favorably upon.,.
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: This criteria of salaries has been
running now for five years, We
have varied twice and we have a new Personnel Board and I think it
might be appropriate that the present Personnel Board make themselvgs
familiar with the present plan, find out what is wrong with it and if
it won't work out then come back and meet with the Employees'
Association and develop a new criteria, I think the present Personnel
Board doesn't have the background of this present plan,
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Councilman Heath-,
Mr, Rasp-,
SIGNALS
I think to keep it fair'and so
forth, it would-be entirely a
bunch of strangers to come in
and do this.
I think the Personnel Board is
to be the in-between.
Mr, Aiassa-, We have a proposal from the State
on the traffic signals at Puente
and Azusa and it will cost the City $5,500 and the State will partici-
pate with $5,500, (Read report as follows:)
"Further reference is made to the investigation of traffic
conditions at the intersection of Azusa Avenue with Puente
Avenue. Our study, which also included the intersections
of Workman Avenue, Rowland Avenue, San Bernardino Road,
Badillo Street, and Cypress Street, all with Auzsa Avenue,
has been completed. As a result, it is proposed to modify
the existing traffic signals as indicated in the attached
traffic report.
It is requested that the City of West Covina assume one-
half (1/2) of the signal modification costs at Workman,
Rowland, and Puente Avenueso A preliminary estimate in-
dicates that the City's share, exclusive of engineering
and contingencies, will be approximately $16,500:
Workman Avenue $5,500
Rowland Avenue 5,500
Puente Avenue 5,500
Please advise at your earliest convenience whether or
not this is satisfactory to the City, and the type of
funds the City proposes to use for financing so that
the proper form of agreement can be prepared when a
firm estimate is available. If Section 1.86.1 (1004�)
or general funds are to be used, a cooperative agree-
ment will be prepared and forwarded for execution on
behalf of the City. If the City proposes use of State
allocated (Section 2107) funds for part or all of its
share of the cost, a project statement covering the item
to be budgeted will be forwarded for approval by the
City Council so that a supplemental to the executed
master agreement can be processed by the District City
and Cooperative Projects Engineer.
It is anticipated that the plans and specifications for
• this project will be completed by December, 19640"
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Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman -Snyder, and
carried, that the staff be authorized to notify"the-State we will'
go on this fifty-fifty proposition for signals at Puente and Azusa.
LARK ELLEN AVENUE STORM DRAIN
Project SD-6320
Mr, Aiassa:
I have a report directed to me
from Thomas Jo Dosh re'this"
matter. It is dated January_13,
1964. I would like this spread
in full in the Minutes:
"Pursuant to your directive, we have again contacted -the
State with regard to the problems of financing the Lark
Ellen Storm Drain South of the Freeway. The State -has
advised us that they could undertake the administration
of the project and complete the job in accordance with'
the Bureau of Public Roads requirements, which would be
extensive. By doing so they would ask to build the re-
mainder of the drain (which cost is estimated to be-'
$78,000, City Funds). Their estimated administration
costs, including engineering, construction, supervision
and overhead; would be 12% minimum for the total pro-
ject, or $12,OOO.
"They would object to doing this work on a separate -
project, such as mentioned, but they would be willing
to include this in the freeway widening program as a
part of the multimillion dollar project. Their tent-
ative schedule for widening the freeway is 1966, or
a minimum of two years delay, The earliest we could
construct the storm drain, allowing for State admin-
istration, would be later this year,
"In light of the above, we would recommend either of
the following procedures:
1, Make every attempt possible to divorce the
$22,000 contribution from B.P.R. policies
and/or participation. Even if this takes
a trip to Sacramento it would be worth this
to the City to save the unwiedly technical
problems surrounding B.P.R. approval.
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LARK ELLEN AVENUE STORM DRAIN (PROJECT SDm6320) ® Continued
"2, If this method fails, we would recommend waiting until
the State widens the freeway to install the remainder of this
Lark Ellen Drain, We make this recommendation in light of the
fact that South Lark Ellen Avenue does have an existing 60"
storm drains Even though this storm drain is substandard, we,
believe the situation is not critical, as it is in some areas
such as South Orange Avenue, If we were to delay this
sonstruction we could divert these funds for a period of two
years into some other necessary construction, awaiting the
freeway widening,
"This is not to minimize the importance of the Lark Ellen Drain,
but in light of the extenuating complexities we find ourselves
in this unfortunate position of making such a recommendation,
Fortunately, however, we should be able to receive State approval
of our design within the near future and be able to request
our HHFA Advanced Planning Funds, These. of course, would not
have to be paid back for at least two years and we do not stand
to lose any funds in this regard, so that there is an obvious
advantage in borrowing the HHFA Funds."
/s/ Thomas J. Dosh
Public Services Director
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
to accept the storm drain report on Lark Ellen, Project SD®6320,,
STORM DRAIN LAND ACQUISITION
(State property) LA 6429
City Manager, Mr, Aiassae I would like to carry this over,
Mayor Barnes: Fine,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassao This is next to the Farmers
Insurance on the south side. I
will give you a report and you can read that and take a look at it
in the field, (Passed said report to the Council,)
STORM DRAIN PROBLEM
Project C-150
City Manager, Mr, Aiassao
COUNCIL SECRETARY
We can hold this over,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassae You have to change the resolution
that established your job
description for your Council Secretary,
Mayor Barnes:
minute, I don't think we want her,
You said 50 words a minute. Any
girl who can't type 60 words a
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COUNCIL SECRETARY ® Continued
Page Twenty -Five
Councilman
Beath:
I would like
to look over these
specifications,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa:
We can table
this to the 27th,,
Councilman
Snyder:
What we want
her to do is that,
sideration
to put it in the
the material
order it is going to
coming up for con-
be considered,,
Councilman
Heath:
Who is the secretary responsible
to?
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: She is responsible to the Mayor,,
Councilman Towner: I think the wording is not in there
and what I woud say is responsible
to the City Council acting through the Mayor,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: We will put these changes in the
resolution and bring it back to
you,,
WESTERN MISSIONARY ARMY APPLICATION FOR LICENSE
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten: We received a formal request for
a permit to operate for this next
year,, I talked to Chief Sill, about it this afternoon and he would
like permission to hold this off for one week so the Chamber of
Commerce Manager and Chief Sill and myself can talk it over and make
a formal report and recommendation on it at the meeting on the 27th,,
Mayor Barnes:
WATER MEETING AND MEETING WITH STATE
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa:
We will hold it over,,
Is this meeting on Thursday in
the morning or the afternoon?
Councilman Jett: There is a very important water
meeting at Santa Barbara that
same day. I would like to be at both of them,, I think you want me
to go to Santa Barbara and that is where I'll go,, This meeting with
the State is very important but there will be four of you there or
as many as can be there. If this could be arranged later in the
afternoon I can get back from Santa Barbara
Councilman Towner: Can you make it at 4:30? I would
like it as late as possible so
Mr,, Jett can get back and we could all get over there,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa:
I'll make it at the convenience
of you gentlemen,,
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'CITY MANAGER°S REPORTS - Continued
RESOLUTION NO, 2840
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes°
Page Twenty -Six
The City Clerk presented -
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
REQUESTING.THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
OF THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES TO
PERMIT THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS OF
SAID COUNTY TO RENDER SPECIFIED
SERVICES TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
RELATING TO THE CONDUCT OF
GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION TO BE
HELD IN SAID CITY ON APRIL 14, 1964"
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2840,
LAWSUIT
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: We are being sued again, This is
a claim of Candace Lee Hull,
Evidently she was taking dancing lessons at one of the schools being
taught by Mrs, Walsh of West Covina, fell down and knocked a few
teeth out and is suing the City for $750,00,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the City Clerk be authorized to refer this to the City Attorney
for his opinion,
MEDIC ALERT WEEK
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: This is a request by the West
Covina Junior Womenes Club to
declare or proclaim February 17 through February 23 as Medic Alert
Week,
Mayor Barnes:
If there are no objections, I
will so proclaim,
(There were none,)
So proclaimed,
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS ® Continued
WEST COVINA BEAUTIFUL, DANCE
Councilman Heath:
POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORT
Page Twenty -Seven
Don°t forget about the West
Covina Beautiful Dance, Saturday
night at the Country Club,
Councilman Jett: Mr, Aiassa, would you get us a
report on the reasons why our
Police Department is so low in number of employees? According to
Mr, Rasp, he states that we have 40 approved positions and we only
have 31 officers, This is 25% below,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
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PLASTIC DISPOSAL. CONTAINERS
I 11 make a report to you,
Councilman Towner: It was suggested by myself and it
follows up a suggestion made by
Paul Thorson four years ago in connection with the West Covina
Disposal Company that they use a new type of plastic trash can.
I think this has become a real problem in the City over a period of
years, I would like to suggest that the staff be directed to con-
sider the possibility of the City or the disposal company purchasing
a uniform type of plastic container to be sold at cost to the public,
Mayor Barnes: Paul Thorsen is trying to do this now.
He is trying to find a good type of
container.
Councilman Towner: What we want is a uniformity of
these containers throughout the
City and this is not an unusual
requirement,
Motion by.Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the staff be directed to consider the possibility of a uniform
trash container:for use throughout the City and the methods of
obtaining and selling these containers.
There being no further business, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded
by Councilman Heath, and carried, that this meeting be adjourned at
11:35 P,M,
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