12-16-1963 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINAs CALIFORNIA
DECEMBER 16, 1963
The adjourned regular meeting of the City Council was called to order
by Mayor Barnes at 8:00 P,M,, in the West Covina City Hallo
ROLL CALL
Presents Mayor Barnes, Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heaths Snyder
Others Presents Mr. George Aiassa, City Manager
Mr. Robert Flotten, City Clerk and Administrative Assistant
Mr,, Thomas J. Dosh9 Public Services Director
Absents Mr. Harry C. Williams, City Attorney
Mr, Harold Joseph, Planning Director
CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
SKELTON PROPERTY
• City Clerks Mr, Flotten: We entered into escrow today, We
need a resolution adopted by the
City Council approving the purchase of the property and the execution
of the necessary agreement and the acceptance of a deed. This we do
by resolution and is a part of the usual procedure,
RESOLUTION NO, 2809
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes-.
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
PROVIDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF
REAL ESTATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES,
FOR THE EXECUTION OF THE NECESSARY
AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION THEREWITH,
AND ACCEPTING THE GRANT DEED
COVERING SAID REAL PROPERTY"
(Skelton)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
'body of the resolution,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heaths Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
40- Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2809,
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CITY CLERKS REPORTS - Continued
•AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF DIVISION OF HIGHWAYS
FOR PURCHASE OF A PORTION OF LOT 133 (ON
THE WEST SIDE OF SUNSET JUST SOUTHEAST OF
CITY HALL), WE HAVE FINALLY RECEIVED THE
STATE DIRECTOR'S DEED AND WE MAY RECORD IT
ON PAYMENT OF THE AGREED AMOUNT OF $10,923,36,
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City Clerk, Mr, Flotteno We adopted Resolution No, 2619 in
May of 1963 authorizing the
purchase of this property, We now have the Director's Deed we received
from the Division of Highways and we need authorization to record this
deed upon the payment of the price originally agreed upon,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: This has been appropriated,,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that the
Finance Officer be authorized to prepare the necessary papers
regarding the purchase of a portion of Lot 133 from the Division of
Highways for the amount of $109923,,36,, Motion passed on roll call
as follows;
Ayes; Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent-, None
LETTER FROM METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT
AND RESOLUTION N0,, 6425,
City Clerk, Mr. Flotteno
This will be taken up later
under the City Manager's agenda,
APPLICATION FOR DUPLICATE WINE GROWER'S
LICENSE OF WINEDALE WINERY AT 538 1/2
SOUTH GLENDORA AVENUE,
City Clerk, Mr,, Flotten;
You have copies of the Police
Chief's report on this,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to voice no protest in this matter,
REVIEW PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION OF
DECEMBER 4, 1963,
So reviewed by Mr,, Flotten,,
i VARIANCE NO, 472(PP NO. 391) Called up by Councilman Jett,
LARK ELLEN HOSPITAL Discussion as follows:
Councilman Jett. I think we should take a look at
this nine -story building. I
don't have any objection to this but I think this is a complete
departure from anything done before and I think we should take a
look at it,
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Councilman Heath:
Mayor Barnes:
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
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It is surrounded by gas stations, a
hospital and an industrial site,
Are they concerned about moving
along with this?
I presume they weren't in too
much of a rush to start,
Councilman Heath: If we are holding this just to
be inquisitive or to be informed
I think we can pick this up from the Planning Commission drawings and
Minutes, If we have some reason to expect that it is going to be
a detriment then I think we should call it up,
Councilman Snyder:
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
Councilman Towner:
It is practically the border of
Covina, Did they have any
objection?
We had no protests,
The two cities ought to
coordinate where our borders
are touching,
• Councilman Heath: I don't recall Covina notifying
us that they were going to put
three gas stations on the corner up there,
Councilman Jett: If you don't want this to be
called up,, that is finer but I
want the record to show that I asked for it to be called up,
Mayor Barnes:
You have the right to call it up,
Councilman Snyder: I would like to see something of
this size called up because I
think it is a departure in this particular area, Secondly, I think
if we initiated notifying Covina when we develop on the border we
might get more cooperation from them,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the policy of this Council where matters are within 300 feet of
the city boundary of another city that that city be notified about
major projects and that this Council request reciprocation,
Councilman Snyder:
. Councilman Jett:
proposed, what has been approved.
This high rise will be called up,
May I ask the reason we are
calling it up?
I want to know what is going on
in the City, what they have
Councilman Snyder: Because it is a departure from
the general pattern in that
particular area as far as height is concerned,
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: This will come tip on January 13,
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS
WATER
VALIDATION OF CONTRACT
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City Manager9:Mr. Aiassa-. According to the contract we signed
on Article 4, Page 39 Validation,
within one year after the effective date of this contract the agency
shall submit this contract to a court for determination of its validity.
The proceedings shall be pursued to final decree or judgment, If it is
determined to be,invalid the State shall make all reasonable effort to
obtain validating legislation at the next session of the Legislature
and within--six:months after the close of such session if .such
legislation has been enacted the agency shall submit this contract to
a court for redetermining of its validity.
At our meeting we were advised
that the.San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District has already
validated theirs and ?t was suggested we proceed and validate our
contract and they sent us all their forms All we need are
instructions to instruct the City Attorney to proceed with the forms
of validation.
• Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the City Attorney be authorized and instructed to proceed with
the validation of the contract between the City of West Covina and
the State of California Water Resources Commission for 10.000 acre
feet of water annually.
REPORT OF MEETING AT 909 SOUTH
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JETTA D CITY AN AGER AI S A
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa-.
Councilman Jett-.
be as brief as I possibly can be.
You received a brief outline from the
stain of-e::lts from this meeting.
It would be difficult to go into
this in just a few words. I will
This meeting was chairmanned by
William E,, Warne and he gave a summary statement including the
transactions that have been consumated in the past few months, among
which was the contract by the City of West Covina. This was presented
to the entire contractors meeting. With that we sent you a copy of
this report.
•One thing of tremendous impor-
tance to everybody there was that the Supreme Court had upheld the
position of the State in reference to the sale of the $325,000,000
worth of bonds which will finance the east branch. This was the
last remaining obstacle as far as construction was concerned at the
east branch. (Read portion of this report re this matter,,)
tracts
have to be approved by the 31st of DeAll
cembernbecausefor notthis laterater than
April of 1964 they have to have their contracts and bids ready to
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submit,, I have the Governor's answer to the southwest water problem.
I have the complete report. If any of'you would like to see this, it
is available,,
Mr,, Goldberg made a progress
report on the lawsuit and the litigations,, Mr,, Hunt gave a status report
of the financing program,,
The important thing as far as
we are concerned is this -
Mr,, Jensen submitted his proposal in
regards to the Foothill feeder line,, They request that all the
contractors of the east branch who will be receiving water from the
east branch to join MWD in requesting deferrment of the construction
of the east branch for a period of 13 years,, At that time we would
then become responsible for our share of the cost and start making
payments on this,, If everybody joined with them and they were
successful in deferring this line, they would save $153,000,000,
which they would be able to use on their Foothill feeder line,, This
would be money that would be saved temporarily through this deferrment,,
They would eventually have to share in their part of the cost,, For
joining with them they would agree to deliver to all contractors
their full entitlement of water through the Foothill feeder and the
San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District would have the privilege
of tying into that line at any point or points we desire to receive
water, whatever is necessary. Our cost would be the interest on
• the money that we would be deferring, which is, I think,something
like six and a half million dollars. It was turned down by every
contractor with the exception of two, the San Gorgonio Pass Water
Agency and the Coachella Water District They did not enter into
the discussion, nor did they enter into the action at this time
because they wanted to make a further study of a proposal which is
separate than what was made to the contractors here,,
There was one little sticker that
was tied down in the fine print, so to speak, and that was thiso
That MWD had a provision that each of these lines where we would tie
in they would put in these lines,, These lines are to remain the sole
property of the Metropolitan Water District,, After this period
they had in mind either shutting this off or bringing pressure to bear
in some way in the future,, The San Gabriel Valley didn't close their
eyes to this,, They wanted to take a look at it,, They submitted a
counter -proposal and you have a copy of that,, This is -not an agree-
ment; it is nothing but a proposal back to MWD that the San Gabriel
Valley would consider,, In this they were very specific in that the
proposal would be made through the State and not directly to MWD;
it would be made through the State and the State acting as our agent,,
This agent would then make all contracts, form all arrangements with
MWD for our transmission, delivery, everything. Any money we would
.have to pay to MWD would be paid to the State and through the State
credited to MWD against any charges they had against them,, The
• District would not become in any way entangled with MWD,,
There are two important features
of this,, First, now the State would be negotiating with MWD as the
agent for the San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District and
representing us,, Secondly, this would then give the State an interest
in the Foothill feeder line, would put the State in a position of
having something to say about how this was administered, what happened
here, and so forth,, .This is more or less what is involved here,,
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• City Manager,, Mr. Aiassa- (Read Mr,, Woods' answer to Mr,,
Jensen,,) We had no authority
to speak up so we didn't say anything,,
Councilman Jett- Whoever is the water representative
should be in a position to say
something,,
Mayor Barnes- I think this is something that has
to be done on the spur of the
moment, I don't think normally you would have a chance to come back to
the Council„ I think you would have to use your own discretion, I
think in all fairness to the representative some authority should be
given to him..
I read these reports today and
I agree with the San Gabriel Valley Water District wanting to negotiate
through the State,, The thing that bothers me is that if we put it
off for 13 years your cost is going to constantly go up to build the
east branch.,
Councilman Snvder- Concerning that, if they are both
necessary, if we went along with
this schemes wouldn't we eventually be required to pay for both?
• Councilman Jett- If we become affiliated with MWD
we would be obligated to pay our
share of both,, If we remain as we now have decided, we would only be
responsible for our share of the east branch,, I think it is apparent
that it is not necessary for both of these to be constructed now,,
Eventually, yess because the amount of water that will be transmitted
through the California aqueduct would be much more than what would
be transmitted through the Foothill feeder,, When we all get our full
allocations then it would not be, hecause they are even talking now
that we don't know at this time what the ultimate needs of our water
will be, The southwest program means they are going to expand the
main aqueduct by 1,200,000 acre feet which would require enlarging
this east branch to carry this because this is water that is to go
over to the Colorado River and out into that area,, We could build
that now by expanding the east branch to carry that 1,200,000 acre feet
in one line at an additional cost of around $25,000,000. If we build
that east branch now and then 15 years from now we have to build
another parallel line, the cost will be something like $88,000,000.
The cost goes way up when you have to build a parallel line in
relation to the increment cost of just expanding your existing line,,
Councilman Towner- I don't know why we would have
to pay any of the additional
increment if that water is being shipped out of the State,,
Mayor Barnes- On the feeder line coming across from
the trunk here serving an additional area,
is it your feeling that possibly they are trying to enlarge the west
branch to be able to supply that area and this area and possibly at a
future date they could reduce the size of the east branch by putting
in this feeder line?
Councilman Jett -
down,, Everything is expanding,,
No,, There is no place where they
have even discussed cutting it
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Councilman Heath- I think the best thing to do is
wait to see what kind of answer
Mr. Wood gets from MWD. Maybe we can authorize certain authority to
the water representative.
Councilman Snyder- We have more or less cast our lot
with San Gabriel Valley Water so
we could authorize our representative to support San Gabriel Valley
Water in whatever move they take in the meetings -like this. I think
we pretty well have to give him a fairly free rein to make decisions
at these meetings. He knows about how the Council feels.
City Manager, Mr..Aiassa- Mr. Warne had not made a report
on this proposal of Mr. Jensen's.
They assured us in about two weeks all contract cities will be made
appraised of the findings of the State. This might tie in perfectly
with the San Gabriel Municipal Water report.
Councilman Snyder- I think the Tribune's article on
this particular meeting was either
not complete or tended to be a little in error and I am wondering if
this couldn't be corrected in some way. The article in the Tribune
implied that San Gabriel Valley approved what MWD proposed and that
isn't the case at all.
Councilman Jett -
I think this water program is
going to take a lot of somebody's
time.
Councilman Snyder- Move that Mr. Jett be given
authority to act in his
discretion at these meetings concerning water where he is placed in
a position where he doesn't have time to come back to the Council;
secondly, in those positions where San Gabriel Valley Water is
involved that we support their position since we have cast our lot
with them.
Councilman Jett- I think we should have a
representative attend every one
of the meetings of the San Gabriel Municipal Water District from here
on out, to attend each of these monthly meetings. This is where
the meat of all these things happen. If you don't keep abreast of
every one of them, and it is changing so fast, unless somebody is
there to watch out for your interests, I think whoever covers water
should be relieved of the responsibility of any other meetings like
Planning Commission and things like that. There isn't enough time.
Mayor Barnes:
should be relieved of the others.
I think if he is going to make
all these meetings that he
• Councilman Snyder- I would agree with that.
Councilman Heath -
Councilman Towner:
Councilman Jett on the very thorough
the water program and I think it is
him some authority from here on out.
I would agree, too.
I will second Dr. Snyder's motion.
I would like to compliment
and diligent job he has done on
good as a Council we are allowing
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• Mayor Barnes- I was talking to Judge Martin and
he was not notified of our
tour of these facilities, He would like to have all the material that
we get if he is to work on this. I think the committee that met with
Mr. Aiassa, Mr. Jett and Dr. Snyder should be coordinated through one
specific person and any meetings taking place, these gentlemen should
be notified. We are not trying to keep any information away from them;
we want them to have all the information to be able to talk -to people
intelligently,
Councilman Snyder- As far as the staff is concerned,
they are going to be intimately
associated with this problem. I am wondering if a staff man or Mr.
Aiassa shouldn.':t designate this responsibility to one staff man.
Councilman Jett:
There are other things here that
in my mind needed Mr. Aiassa
because we are at a crucial point.
Mayor Barnes; Mr. Aiassa, do you know the date
that this will come before the
Annexation Commission?
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- Ernest Lee was to contact me and
• we are trying to make a meeting
this week with Mr. Mize. This is to check to be sure we have
everything as to form. We answered all the questions but we will
submit it to them on a rough draft to see if it is okay and file
the form later.
Councilman Snyder- Do you feel the staff, including
your, is going to have time to
participate in the massive amount of work that is going to be
required here or do you think it might possibly be necessary to hire
a man to put on the staff until this is completed?
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa-
I don't think we could hire
later on we might designate
anyone to do this. I think
somebody in the Engineering staff to
coordinate this material.
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh- If you annex to San Gabriel,
their staff will take over a
lot of this.
Councilman Heath-
How do we stand on the annexation?
Councilman Jett-
We are waiting for the outcome of
the Annexation Commission,
Councilman Towner;
I think one of the things we have
to watch out for is the argument
of the putting together of separate pieces in one district. I think
not only do we have to gain
them that this is different
public support, we have to point out to
than corporate limits of a city.
Councilman"Snyder-
Four of them are already existing
in this way.
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• Councilman Jett;
these areas are not contiguous,
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This could be the area where
we will get clobbered because
Councilman Heath- I think we should get{a4p from
various groups supporting our
stand, I think you need public support and even some one to plead this
case before them down there,
Mayor Barnes -
Councilman Heath -
How about the attorney Tompkins?
Fine,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- By having the San Gabriel Valley
Municipal Water District present
this does have an effect that here is the independent cities trying to
work as a unit, There is one serious aspect to this whole local
planning agency and that is that it has the power of death but not
necessarily the power of life, At a whim they could either approve
or deny and this is the thing that makes it delicate. There is no
appeal for a year, except through court action.
Mayor Barnes- I think we need a motion to ask
A7ro .Aiassa and Councilman Jett
to contact Mr,.Tompkins of the San Gabriel Valley Water District
to represent us in this case,
City Manager,, Mr, Aiassa-
Councilman Snyder -
to contact the San Gabriel Valley
assistance in designating someone
Annexation Commission,
Councilman Towner -
You should address it to the
Chairman of the Board and outline
our case to them and the urgency,
I will add to my motion that Mr.
Jett and Mr, Aiassa be authorized
Water District to request their
to state our case before the
I will accept the addition, My
second stands,
Action on Councilman Snyder°s motion- Motion carried,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- In talking to Leeds, Hill and Jewett
they have not made a formal
request to their firm to give them their proposal, I would suggest
Mr. Jett be authorized to keep in touch with the San Gabriel Valley
Municipal Water District and if they increase their percentage from
any time that we should consider ours and try to determine on the same
basis,
. Councilman Jett- We are in an area where none of
us know what ultimately we might
need but we are trying to think of West Covina of the future, If we
go into this high rise and industry, there might be that we will need
a tremendous amount of water, We might be short. I think this is
something to be given serious thought,
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• Councilman Heath -,I definitely feel that 10,000 is
the minimum that you can use as
of this year and not by the time the water gets here.
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Councilman Snyder-
City Manager, Mro Aiassa-
Councilman Heath-
This.is supplamental water, too.
There is a summary to be signed
and this is why Yuba City is
asking for 14,000 acre feet.
They do have a lot of irrigation.
Councilman Jett- I'll try to keep you appraised
right up to date between now
and before it is cut off. I am convinced that MWD is going to be
in there on the lst of January fighting for as much of that water as
they can get.
At the present time I am on
the League of California Cities and Personnel Board,
Councilman Snyder; I'll take the Personnel Board,,
Councilman Heath- I'll take the League of
California Cities,
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa- We have a letter pertaining to
the increase of water. I think
the Council should direct Councilman Jett and myself to work with the
San Gabriel Valley Water District and see what they are doing with
this. We have to acknowledge this Chapter 8 and it has to be done
and it is the option to increase maximum annual entitlement. There
is still water unallocated.
Councilman Towner- We only take what we need at
the time delivery is ready, but
they need the maximum entitlement to size the aqueduct. Any cost to
us would be any added income in the size of the aqueduct.
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa- I would like to work with the
representatives who will work
the master plan out for the San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water
District so at least we have made the same overtures they did.
Councilman Jett- What is the status of the Planning
Commission's restudy of the
general plan? Is that going to be done any time soon? This could
effect our water problem.
Commissioner Gleckman-
Councilman Towner -
plan as far as predicting our needs.
I believe it is on our agenda as
an item on our agenda.
I believe Montgomery recommenda-
tions were based on the general
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa- The reason we increased these figures
was it was the '62 of Mr. Montgomery's
report and Leeds, Hill and Jewett's representatives called Montgomery's
office and that is when I suggested we increase our allocation to 10,000
acre feet,
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Councilman Jett., We have up to the 31st to sign
the contract,, Our contract has
been signed,, We cannot increase that because this was approved by
the Allocations Committee and there will be no meetings of this com-
mittee until after the 31st,, Then until the 31st of March is the time
when this surplus water uncontracted for will be up for grab„ The
Allocations Committee will review all these additional requests for
additional water and go from there,,
Councilman Towner., We have to figure up our optional
entitlement, how much our option
will entitle us to; we have to figure some beneficial use for it; and
we would have to figure out what this will mean in terms of increased
costs,
Councilman Jett.- Let°s see what Leeds, Hill and
Jewett recommend and if we need
authority then we will come back to you with it,,
Mayor Barnes., Pine,,
PERSONNEL
SALARIES
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa., We have two
The Council
letters,,
letters on the salary,,
has copies of these
Mayor Barnes.- I feel that the Council should
sit down and have a joint meeting
with the Personnel Board regarding this salary increase,,
Councilman Heath.- I think I need more information
before I can act on this. I
called for a copy of the Minutes of last January where there was a
recommendation of 3,,4% with a revision in June and the Council,
myself voting against the move, gave them 5%,, Here they are back
again for another five or six percent,, I would have to see a justi-
fication for this,, This used to be given as the cost of living went
up but the cost of living isn't going up as fast as this is going up,,
Mayor Barnes:
used as comparisons and now there are
like to talk to the Personnel Board,,
I would like to know why they
changed it from 10 cities we
20 cities considered. I would
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all local and they didn't feel this necessarilythe presentedlastruee
picture of salaries of this type of City in Los Angeles County,,
They did have what they felt were valid arguments that this was
more representative than just the cities in our own area,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa., I would have the reports of the
Employees° Associati
Llie
reports of our own staff,, I will also have the Minutes ofnthedPer-
sonnel Board and make it into a package so you have a complete rundown,,
I will also give you a list of the 20 cities,,
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Mayor Barnes: I think it is agreeable to have
the meeting with the Personnel
Board on Tuesdays January 14, 1964, at eight o'clock.
REPRESENTATION REQUEST
Councilman Towner: I have a request for representa-
tion which I can't meet, It is
on December 29 at 7:30; there is a group of touring hockey players
coming to this new rink in West Covina and they want someone from the
City to officially greet these people from Toronto. There will be 30
boys and four coaches plus a lot of people from Southern California
interested in this sort of thing plus our local teams.
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Towner:
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa:
Mayor Barnes:
I can make it,
Can I ask you to contact Mr.
Veronda to ask if he will be
available that evening?
I'll take care of it.
Mr. Aiassaq also notify Miss
West Covina. I think she
might like to be there.
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Councilman Towner: The local contact is Bill Anderson.
You can get in touch with him
through McHelman and Anderson in Covina. It°s a law firm.
PERSONNEL BOARD REPLACEMENT
Councilman Towner:
Mayor Barnes:
in going through interviews again.
Councilman Snyder:
Mayor Barnes:
10 TELEPHONE TECHNIQUE SCHOOL
Councilman Snyder:
We still have a list of people
interviewed last time.
I think we should review the
list. I don't see any point
Why don't we think about it and
maybe we can get it in on the
23rd.
Or possibly the next adjourned
meeting on the 6th.
This is a public relations school
for the girls who answer the
phones.
Councilman Heath: I am in favor of it. I think
some of the employees in the City
have not learned the fundamentals of answering telephones.
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City Manager, Mr. Aiassao This is for ten weeks. If they
complete the course we will
reimburse them their $10.00. If they drop out, they will lose their
$10,00.
Councilman Towner;
City Manager, Mr, Aiassao
Mayor Barnes.
How do we get them to enroll in
the first place if they have to
put up $10.00?
We can make it mandatory.
I would like to see it on their
own initiative.
Councilman Snyder- They had a short one and they
were all very pleased with it,,
In fact, they are, in effect, asking for it. I think they all will go
because they want it.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that the
City Council accept the recommendation of the Personnel Board con-
cerning a ten -week session for the female employees and that the
course include a session on telephone technique; further that the
City will reimburse $10.00 to each employee upon the completion of
the course. Motion passed on roll call as follows-
Ayes- Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes- None
Absent; None
DEEP LOT STUDY
City Manager, Mr. Aiassao I would like the Council to
officially accept the deep lot
study report and have the Clerk keep it on file.
Mayor Barnes: The Planning Commission is going
to schedule a meeting for all the
people in the area to be heard. I don't think at this time we know
what the Planning Commission is going to recommend to use
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
that the Planning Commission be instructed to hold public hearings
and continuation of the deep lot study and in light of the joint
meeting between the Council and the Planning Commission and come up
with a recommendation.
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
to accept the deep lot study as presented by the Planning Commission,,
Councilman Snyder- I would like to commend the staff
on the work on.the deep lot study.
I thought it was well done whether or not you agree with the conclusions.
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS ® Continued
OFF-STREET PARKING LOT STUDY
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa.- We did not take any official action
and I need authorization from the
Council to hire 15 students at $1,,50 per hour for 55 hours approximately
and I would say not to exceed $1,500,,00,,
Councilman Jett.- This will cover the turnover of
the cars in the lots?
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa, They will go through the lot and
they will count, They will tour
the whole parking lot and mark the areas that are occupied or vacant
I don't know if they will designate the particular business in front,
Councilman Snyder.- There are a lot of factors to be
considered in this study and if
it is going to be useful at all you're going to have to obtain
information that is helpful in arriving at decisions on all these
factors involved,, The Planning Director and the Public Works Director
should be educated enough in engineering that they would know how
to arrive at a statistically accurate study, They should try to
obtain enough information to be really useful because if we don't, it
will be useless,,
• Councilman Heath: Granted we are trying to determine
the number of parking spaces'per
square foot of the building; however, I think you're going to have to
average these things out to come up with an average,, The reason
being this: Suppose in this particular store you have a furniture
store where the average time is an hour and a half,, We can't plan on
that being a furniture store forever,, It might become a drug store
where the actual time will be five minuts,, Although it would be ideal
to determine the turnover of cars, I think you're going to have to
average it out and I think this can be averaged out by counting the
load in parking lot at any time,,
Councilman Jett: If we had a ten-hour coverage
and you count the peak load plus
the number of cars in and out of there, that would then tell you how
many cars you're actually taking care of during a day,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa.- This is what we are doing,,
Councilman Snyder: The more information you can get
the more helpful it will be,,
Councilman Towner: It is my understanding that this
is just the beginning of the
parking study,, There will be other studies at other seasons of the
year,,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that the
expenditure be authorized as outlined by the City Manager up to $1,500,,00
and allocated from the Unappropriated Reserve,, Motion passed on roll
call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner,, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent.- None
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS m Continued
• AUDITOR'S REPORT
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I would like the Council to accept
the Audit report. Would you like
to have Mr, Cotton and Mra Francisco have a short session with you to
review the audit report and the 1911 Act, street improvements, and
bond funds?
Councilman Snyder.-
Can't the Finance Director give
us that?
City Managers Mr, Aiassa-
Yes,
Councilman Towner:
There is one thing that is
their recommendations or criticisms
missing, Apparently they make
or suggestions under separate
cover and I don't think the Council
has been supplied with this,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
I have a brief copy of it and it
suggested mostly administrative
internal operation,
Councilman Towner:
I have no objection to delaying it
until Mr. Kay has his comments in,
• City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
We don't get the amount of un-
served papers from the courts
that I think we should.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded
by Councilman Towner, and carried,
to accept these two reports mentioned above,
GLENDORA AVENUE REPORT
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I interviewed applicants. We
had a total of eight people
proposing, We got three valid proposals, One of them is from Daniels,
Mann, Johnson and Mendenhall and their proposal was approximately
$7,000,00, Victor Gruen gave a proposal from $8s000 to $35,000,
depending upon the maximum scope of the project, We got a proposal
from Wilsay, Hamm and Brayer for $7,500 to $109000, The scope of
their projects are outlined and you received the reports, I would
suggest that the Council review these and hold these off to the 23rd
and we can make a decision at that time,
Councilman Towner: I would like to read these in
detail,
Councilman Heath: How do we stand right now on the
revision of the general plan?
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: The Planning Commission just
received the directive from
the Council. They have not gone into it at all,
Councilman Snyder: The motion was in relation to
the multiple dwelling and the
general plan,
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GLENDORA AVENUE REPORT m Continued
• Councilman Heath -
Mayor Barnes:
Page Sixteen
Can we combine the multiple
dwelling and Glendora Avenue
into one study?
This. could be one study,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- The manager is directed to do one
thing and this study only for
Glendora Avenue. Right now the proposal is on -the map of the City. I
suggest you look these over and give me a decision on the 23rd,
Councilman Heath,; I think we should go on with the
Glendora study and do the other one
later; otherwise, we will be tied up for another year,
Mayor Barnes,.,
LARK ELLEN STORM DRAIN REPORT
We will study these reports and
hold it to the 23rd„
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- We have a tremendous amount of
red tape to acquire this $22,000
from the State, I have authorized the staff to proceed and written
• a letter to Mr, Cameron asking that they cut down the reports, We
have been assured the State will help us comply with these require-
ments, This is just a report,
CAR LEASING
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten.,
(Read letter from Gordon Nesvig
dated December 11, 19639 directed
to the Mayor re this matter,)
City Manager- Mrs, Aiassa:
I doubt if the City Attorney
would accept this, to close out
all: other compatitors®
Councilman Snydera
They say you can just write it
in your specifications,
Councilman Heathy
This may be something adaptable
only to a Chrysler,
Mayor Barnes:
I think I should answer this
have already leased our cars there
letter to Mr, Nesvig, if we
is nothing we can do about it
. this ,year,
Councilman Snyder:
I am curious whether this is a
simple modification to the engines
or a complete engine design, If
it is aimple then could
reasonably reqquest this in your specifications
,you
and all makes could
meet it; but if it is a major engine
change, I dW t see how you could,
Councilman Jettl
The others could meet the same
conditions if' they wanted to bid,
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Councilman Heath:
Councilman Snyder:
Councilman Heath:
Page Seventeen
You can'.t meet the requirements
for this specification in time
for our present bid.
I think we should have more
information and consider it for
the future.
I agree with that.
Councilman Towner: I am 100% in agreement with
anything that will cut down
air pollution I think if we have an opportunity to cooperate we
shouldn't pass it by even at the expense of perhaps a little more
money although I am not sure this will happen.
V.I.P. CAR LEASING
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: I have one from Mandy Williams
and one from V.I.P. The Finance
Officer and the Chief of Police both reviewed both bids. (Read report
re this matter,,) V.I.P. is following the same contract as we did
last year. We don't have to pay the changeover cost.
Councilman Towner:
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa:
has talked to him on this basis.
Have we checked Mandy Williams
and asked if he is willing to
do the same?
I'll make one more pass at
Mandy Williams but the staff
Councilman Heath: I think you should stick with
V,,I.P. We have to pay for the
gas and the difference between an Oldsmobile and a Ford is a little
bit of money plus the fact you can equip a ford with heavier brakes.
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that the
City Manager be directed that the proposed contract with V.I.P.
be made on the same basis as last year plus a few changes to be
left up to him; and that he be directed to get more information on
this new engine developed by Chrysler. Motion passed on roll call
as follows..
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
SCHWARTZ-YEDER
Tract 21014
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: I think you received copies
regarding this matter. (Read
report re this matter.)
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S'CHWARTZ YE DER (TRACT 21014) m Continued
• Councilman Snyder-. If complications could arise, are
they more likely to arise during
the rainy season? Perhaps we should wait until the rainy season is
over,
1]
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh: Mr, Williams seems to feel our
liability is worse now, (A map
was presented and Mr. Dosh explained same,)
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa-.
How can we assume liability in
the County?
Public Services Director,, Mr, Dosh-. We are doing physical work. We
have caused a public street to be
built to dam that water,
Councilman Heath-.
If the school is going to take
over that site there, let them
worry about it,
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh: It isn't final yet where the
school will goo this property
or across the street,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
How about the County assuming the
liability if we do the work?
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh: It is a question of lesser lia-
bility, You donet have to solve
this problem, Mr. Lance regularly calls the Sheriff's Office and
complains about this,
Councilman Snyder -
What liability is likely to occur?
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh-. The worse thing is if somebody
drowns there if we didn't fill
it. If we did fill it, I can't think of anything. If it ever came to
a lawsuit, we approved the plans without knowing that we couldn°t fill
it or they wouldn't fill it. We would have some liability, I°m sure,
Councilman Towner-. I think there is not much question
about the danger involved because
this is readily accessible to youngsters,
Councilman Snyder:
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh:
I think we need to okay this to
get rid of our liability,
It will cost us approximately
$200,00,
Mayor Barnes: Do you advise it during this
season?
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh:
now which is good for compaction,
that we have drawn,
Councilman Heath:
We have had a rather dry season
so far. We have a heavy loader
The County will approve our plans
Move we get a bid on moving the
dirt,
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SCHWARTZ-YEDER (TRACT 21014) ® Continued
• Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh- I don't think you can get a
contractor to bid it, If you don't
want us to do this I think it is a dead issue,
Councilman Heath,
I am not in favor of the City
staff going in for contracting,
Councilman Towner; We have a dangerous condition we
created, We have the dirt ready
to go and the engineer feels that they can do it,
Mayor Barnes -
Councilman Towner:
I would like to see the County take
the responsibility,
I understood from the Public
Services Director that the County
had approved the plans,
Public Services Director, Mr. Dosh- They said they will approve the
plans if we want them, We are not
worried about the County. We are worried about Mr, Lance.
Mayor Barnes;
Councilman Heath's motion fails
for lack of a second,
• Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
that the staff be directed to proceed with the filling of the ditch
at the end of White Birch in Tract No, 21014 subject to the conditions
outlined and subject to the further condition that we have prior
County approval of the plans, (Councilman Heath voted "No",)
TRAFFIC HAZARD
Councilman Towner- At the intersection of Cortez and
Barranca beyond the north of the
area where the new street was put in, I would like to call to your
attention and suggest you do something about it before we have an
accident, There is an uncovered shoulder on the street and the cars
swerve toward each other. This is the southwest corner,
Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh- This is in the County and we have
asked Mr, Kenyon to do something
about it and he hasn't. He makes the statement that the money the
County spent was for work in the County but this was not the area they
spent the money in, I'll try to get action on this,
CITRUS
Councilman Heath- There is a ditch on the corner of
and
put in stone rather than blacktop andCittis worseltrusthan�itThe wasCouncil before.
Mayor Barnes- Mr, Lockhart indicated to me on
the
he
on the new subdivision through Walnuttthathone Citrusawouldli terect alignment
Lemon Avenue,
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CITRUS - Continued
Page Twenty
Mr, Dosh: He said they would try to get'a
decision and submit their proposal
•to the County Road Department before they submitted it to us and he said
Mr. McIntyre would do the form. They refuse to send us a copy before it
goes to the County.
Councilman Towner:
Mrs Dosh:
PLAZA PARKING LOT
Mr. Aiassa:
We can force their hand 'if we'
approve the alignment we want.
I'll try to have a report on this
for you on the 23rdo
(Mr. Aiassa read report from
Thomas Dosh re this matter as
follows:
"Attached herewith are two plot plans, "A" and "B", showing
proposed channelization and re -striping of the Plaza parking
lot opposite Center Street at California Avenue. The off -site
improvement costs will be approximately $1700, which includes
construction of a new driveway apron and approach and elimina-
tion of the old. This also includes removal of the driveway
apron on Batelaan Avenue at Garvey and replacement with curb,
gutter and sidewalks This cost would be the same for either
plan "A" or "B">
The approximate cost for re -striping and sealing the old par-
king stalls to allow for new striping will be $850 (Plan "A").
Plan "B" would include a raised median island with a minimum
amount of re -striping. This on -site cost would be approximately
$750. Costs for all on -site improvements include reconstruction
of the sidewalk returns in front of Thrifty Drug Store to give a
better turning radius,
RECOMMENDATION: This has been reviewed with the City,Engineer's
office and the Traffic Engineer and it would be our recommendation
that Plan "A" be utilized rather than Plan "B"o It is assumed that
all off -site improvement costs would.be borne by the City and that
the re -striping of the interior parking lot could be paid.by the
property owner. Even though this represents the general thinking
of Mr, Gardner and Mr. Wax, who favor the angle intersection and
the direct access as we have indicated, this plan should be ap-
proved by both Mr. Shuuman and Mr. Wood who are the property owners
directly affected, as well as the merchants themselves. We have
not discussed the matter with the property owners, as yet. In-
cidentally, no funds have been budgeted for this work, but Traf-
fic Safety funds could be made available for the reconstruction
on California Avenue."
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PLAZA PARKING LOT - Continued
Mr. Dosh:
Page Twenty -A
(Two plans were put on the
board and Mr. Dosh explained
same.)
Commissioner Gleckman: The "A" plan is much better from
the viewpoint of the flow of traf-
fic. I think it should be presented
from the City to the property
owners.
Mr. Aiassa: I would suggest we accept Plan
"A" and authorize the staff to
meet with the representatives of the Plaza Merchants Association to
meet with the property owners and see if we can make these off -site
improvements.
Councilman Snyder:
Mr. Dosh:
Councilman Snyder:
Mr. Dosh:
Commissioner Gleckman:
In moving that driveway opening
over, is that on Mr. Shulman's
property or Mr. Woods' property?
In moving it to the left, are we
denying Mr. Woods' access?
No. They no doubt have a joint
parking agreement. The new
access will be entirely on
Shulman's property.
Mr. Woods should be advised
that Mr. Shulman should never
be able to cut off his access.
If you are going to spend the
money, you can make the one con-
tract and close this driveway
off over here on Batelaano
The first problem is Gene Woods
did not want to give up the en-
trance that would have to be
eliminated if they close the
curb off.
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried, that the Council accept Plan "A" and authorize the staff to
meet with the Plaza Merchants to meet with the property owners.
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued
STREET NAME CHANGES
GLENDORA AVENUE NAME CHANGE PROTEST
Councilman Snyder -
Page Twenty -One
You'll have to hold that, The
petition isn't in as yet,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- The only reason we haven't gone
any this was
her
D'Amelio wanted to see if the other merchantstwereointerested inathis.
Councilman Towner -
hearing the explanation of it,
Mayor Barnes:
I understood he was not so much
opposed to the change after
Some of the people aren't objecting
to this,
City Managers Mr, Aiassa- I think we should authorize the
staff to meet with Tony D'Amelio
and if he does not have this petition forthcoming that we bring finis
up on the 23rd and execute it,
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, to
authorize the staff to meet with Tony D'Amelio ind..if he does not
Is have this petition forthcoming that we wring :his up on the 23rd
and execute it,
Councilman Jett- The merchants don't object to
changing the name of the street
but they feel you're only compounding the problem by naming it Hacienda
when Hacienda Heights is on the south. You're not accomplishing
anything; you're just switching the problem from one identity to
another, They asked that this be changed to West Covina Boulevard
or Main Street or something like this and they suggested those two,
Councilman Snyder; I think this is a good idea
except we missed the boat. If
we had thought of it first, that woula have been different but they
have all named it Hacienda on the south side, The big argument was
that they had lost identity down there because on Glendora Avenue
the people would go to the City of Glendora and Ken Roggy wanted Hacienda
Boulevard,
Councilman Towner-
I think the
over-all
adjustment is
identification separately
beneficial;
from other areas; and
provides
continues
the
all the wa d
the,,name
y own,
Action on Councilman Snyder's motion- Motion carried,
CENTER STREET IN PICKERING TRACT
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- We have a Center Street downtown
in the
ter
Pickering Tract, It is the suggestionnofathenPlanningeCommission that
we change the one in the Pickering Tract which has no homes on it
to Sentous Avenue,
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CENTER STREET IN PICKERING TRACT - Continued
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Towner:
Councilman Heath:
City Managers Mr. Aiassa:
Page Twenty -Two
That may become a pretty busy
street. Maybe we can change it
to West Covina Road.
That is an idea, You're trying
to get identity down in that area,
This goes to Walnut and they are
not about to have a street with
the name of West Covina on it.
We can check with Walnut and see if
they have any objections.
Councilman Snyder: Since it is only half in the City
and half in the County, don't
we have to get an okay from the County?
Public Services Director, Mr. Dosh: We will have to get approval from
the County.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the staff be authorized to proceed with changing the name of
Center Street in the Pickering Tract to Sentous,
ROOT AVENUE NAME CHANGE
Councilman Jett:
There are quite a few problems
that haven't been worked out yet,
Motion by Councilman Heaths seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to change the name of Root Avenue within the City limits of West
Covina to Puente Avenue.
RAMONA BOULEVARD NAME CHANGE
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: This is a suggestion to change it
from Ramona
an
Bernardino Road. The Planning Commission recommendedBoulevard that thenamebe
changed,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to change the name of Ramona Boulevard.within the City limits of
West Covina to San Bernardino Road,
• AUDITORIUM
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
I have a notice from Neptune and
Thomas wanting to know what we
are going to do on this,
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AUDITORIUM m Continued
Councilman Snyder:
I think it will take a long time.
Neptune and Thomas in their plans
and the area -wide would be if it
designed later.
Page Twenty -Three
The problem is working up area®
wide support for an auditorium.
I think we should go ahead and have
design an auditorium for our needs
ever comes into being and can be
Councilman Towner: It seems to me that by reason
of location and need that we
could go ahead and design an area -wide auditorium because nobody
else is coming up with one. If we are first in with it I think we
will be first off the ground.
Councilman Snyder: We could go ahead and design
it and show the people in the
other cities we have designed it and if they get behind it we will
do everything we can to see that it is built° What do Neptune and
Thomas recommend?
City Managero Mr. Aiassa: They want to hear from the Council.
They want to lay out your
preliminary designs for your over-all civic center area.
Councilman Snyder:
least have something to sell.
have is an idea to sell.
If we go ahead as long as we have
the funds to do it then we at
If we don't have the design, all we
Councilman Towner: The funds for this design are
the funds we obtained on a
non -repayable loan if we don't build. I think the area deserves it
and needs it and we will support it eventually and we should be
prepared to sell it.
Councilman Heath: If we are going for a regional
auditorium we are going to have
to use so much land for the auditorium and parking it will jeopardize
our full size City Hall plans.
City Manager, Mr. Aiassa It may and it may not. I don't
know how large we are going to
make it.
Councilman Snyder: The auditorium will be used at
a different time of day.
Councilman Towner: This is something the architect
will have to answer. We don't
want to shove aside our City facilities for this.
• Councilman Snyder: If we go ahead and have the designs
maybe this will stimulate these
other groups working in other cities and they may join into help us
do something.
Councilman Heath: I think the important thing is
how much area this regional
auditorium is going to take.
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AUDITORIUM m Continued
Page Twenty -Four
Councilman Jett: I feel we should stick to the
•
regional idea and design. If
necessary, we can move it to the 20 acres on Azusa,
•
Councilman Snyder: It doesn®t necessarily have to
be built in our civic center,
CITRUS COURT EXPANSION
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I met with the representatives
of the County on the Citrus court
expansion and Judge Johnson met with Bonelli and we gave them the
basic layout of exchange of property but he has been advised rather
conclus-4vely that the County will not be in a position to do any
financing for any expansion of the Citrus Court, I had suggested that
being that we are building our facilites under lease optional purchase
that we might also include the expansion and enlargement of the
Municipal Citrus Court,intergrating it with the general plan of the
civic center. We have two problems, One is Mr, Maurice Fleischman has
been tentatively hired to do the expansion but there has been no
money allocated, Secondly, I would like permission from the Council
to discuss this with Stone and Youngberg whether we could build and
lease an addition to an existing facility of the County, This will
be a one -purpose use and will be a lease to the County as we would
normally lease like the library. Right now the County will not be
able to finance any enlargement of this present structure,
Councilman Snyder:
Mayor Barnes:
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
either Mr, Bonelli or Mr,
we get a "No" answer then
a "Yes" answer we can use
It gives us 'guaranteed income to
help build our own building,
We could be sure that it would be
built here,
I would like authorization for
one of us to approach the County,
Hugh Dynes and find out what the status is; if
we take an alternative plan, If there is
an alternate plan,
Councilman Towner: I think we should talk directly
to Mr, Bonelli, I get concerned
that cutbacks affecting West Covina when you can see that they are
spending a few million dollars to redevelop that Pomona civic center
including additions to the courthouse as well as the new court house
they will build, I don't see any reason why we should stand by and
see it all go over there. Let's get directly to Mr. Bonelli and
let him know, I think we should let him know in no uncertain terms
that we are concerned about this and there is need for development here,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
We will try to set up a meeting
with him on this,
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued
VICTOR GRUEN
Page Twenty -Five
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: The Council might have to make a
decision on the Victor Gruen
alternate proposal on the east area, If you want to hold it to the 9th,
that's all rights You have an alternate proposal submitted to you
where he has increased his price to $14,000,00,
Mayor Barnes:
ROBBINS PROPERTY
We will hold this on the 9th, if
agreeable.
City Manager, Mro Aiassa: I need authorization from the
Council for two warrants, one
for Cameron Avenue to put in deposit with the Los Angeles County
Clerk for $99600 for Mr. Robbins property on condemn&tiono
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Jett, that the
City Manager be authorized to..ob_tain a.warrant. to put.. in a deposit
with the Los Angeles County Clerk for $9.,60.0. for the, Robbins
property, Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner,
Noes: None
Absent: None
MERCED ALIGNMENT
Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: We have completed an escrow today
of the property of Mr. Skelton
but I have two more pieces to acquire and that is Mr. Nagle and a
piece from Mr, . Redtfeldte I would like authorization from the Council
to meet with these property owners and proceed to acquire the rest of
the Merced realignment. The total cost was $31,720.00 for the Skelton
property.
Councilman Jett: What was the land, not the
improvements, et cetera, but
just the land?
City Manager, Mr, AiassaI
I don't know, Mr. Cox has
appraisals made for Nagle and
Redtfeldto
Councilman Jett: Why don't we go right on in? We
have to have those two pieces
of property, Let's go right in to condemnation if we are unable to
make a deal with them,
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: We haven't made a pass at them
yet,
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the City,Manager be authorized to contact Mr. Nagle and Mr.
Redtfeldt regarding acquisition of their property for street purposes;
that if unable to reach a satisfactory agreement that the City Manager
be authorized to begin condemnation proceedings in accordance with
the appraisal submitted by Mr. Vern Cox,
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued
MARTIN OIL COMPANY SIGN
Mr. Aiassa: We gave them 20 da s and it was
Y
up on December 5e He has -to the
25th to conform. He checked out and found out through our study ready
for the 23rd that it is on the overhanging signs and he would like -per-
mission to hold off his conforming until after we reviewed this request
to the Council showing these overhanging signs. We will have it ready
on the 23rd. I would suggest we at least give him to the 23rd. If the
Council decides his sign should conform then he will have to do this.
I would like to continue this to the 23rd,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that the decision on the Martin Oil Company sign be held over to the
23rd of December 1963.
AZUSA AVENUE
Mr. Aiassa:
(Read letter re this matter from
Mr. Lockhart dated November 29,
1963 as follows:
"The Association is the owner of the property which lies
adjacent to the south boundary of Azusa Avenue in the West
Covina area, and on which there is pending a request for
vacation of a portion of Azusa Avenue as shown on a Plan of
Proposed Road Vacation of a Portion of Azusa Avenue in the
County of Los Angeles, State of California dated October
29, 1963,_ prepared by Walsh-Forkert Civil Engineers, Inc.
The Association would have no objection to the vacation
of the portion of Azusa Avenue as shown on the aforemen-
tioned plan, providing there is a full dedication .
of the 110 foot right-of-way for the realignme;it of Azusa
Avenue as proposed by the Los Angeles County Road Depart-
ment to the north line of the Association's property."
Councilman Heath: Move
ized
Mr. Oshin of the Empire Savings and Loan
commitment or stand on the dedication of
Avenue within his property°
that the Mayor be author -
to sign a letter sent to
Association as to his
the right of way of Azusa
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued
AZUSA AVENUE - Continued:
Councilman Heath: If we are going to have to go in-
to condemnation and delayed action in the obtaining of the right of
way from the Empire Savings property that we should find that out
now and we should not advertise it to all of the agencies.
Councilman Towner: I was under the impression we
were to have conversations with
Empire Savings the same as we were with Home Savings and the Bruta--
coaso I thought this had been accomplished.
Mayor Barnes: Empire Savings were at the
meeting but they are a little
non -committal and they didn't make any real rash statements. I
think they want development but I think they want something else.
Councilman Towner: With the other property owners
in the area we have nothing
more than oral commitments or
indications.
Mayor Barnes: We have letters from Mr. Lock-
hart of Home Savings and Loan,
Mr. Brutacoa, but not ?sir.
Batchelder,
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Councilman Heath: If we have to go to condem-
nation on the Empire property,
that is a pretty good piece of
land and it will tie up this
whole project.
Councilman Towner: The County would have to buy
it. I think we should call this
to Mr. Templin's attention and
let him proceed on it.
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AZUSA AVENUE ® Continued
Page Twenty -Seven
• Councilman Heath- In the meeting at Mr. Bonelli's
office they made it plain they
had no money for condemnation or purchase of right of -way at all,
I am afraid you're going to meet opposition from Empire Savings on
this piece of property, If there is opposition I would rather it came
to the City and the City temper it rather than have it go to the
County Road Department and let them spread this word all over because
as soon as Home Savings gets wind of the fact that there is not going
to be dedication they are going to stop, Mr, Lockhart said that he
will dedicate all of the right of way within his property immediately
upon the time we have the money available for the improvements.
He made this as a statement. He also said that they would not under
any condition dedicate the land and let it set waiting for money to
be raised, He will not dedicate the land within their property and
then wait for us to acquire the land in the other area,
Mayor Barnes- Mr, Lockhart said that they would
dedicate it so long as the County
and the City of West Covina would guarantee them that these two lanes
running each way would be developed within a two-year period,
Councilman Heath- I think any trouble there is let
it come to us and let us temper it
before it hits the general public,
• Councilman Jett- Is it appropriate for the Mayor
to write a letter when the land
isn't in our City?
Councilman Heath- I think so because we are interested
in Azusa Avenue continuing through,
Mayor Barnes- I think the wrong jurisdiction is
writing the letter, We can't
make any commitments on it or anything,
Councilman Jett- There is no question as to the
importance of this; the question
would be the propriety of mixing into a County highway were we have
no jurisdiction,
Councilman Snyder:
Councilman Heath:
Mayor Barnes:
Why don't we notify the County of
the problem and offer them whatever
assistance we can give them,
We don't know if there is a
problem,
We should ask somebody in the
Count if th
if there is any problem of dedication, offer our assistanceroblem and
is
Councilman Snyder:
Councilman Towner:
It seems to me if we don't do it
this way we are going over the
County's head,
I think you're forcing Empire
Financial into a position to say
they don't know yet,
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AZUSA AVENUE m Continued
Page Twenty -Eight
• Councilman Heath: They know right now, I'll with-
draw my motion, You can go
ahead but it is against my better judgement.
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Councilman Towner:
Councilman Jett:
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa:
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Towner:
PROJECT 6306
Lawrence Keys property
There is question about our having
to push it,,
Clyde Batchelder is in the same
position and he isn't going to
move until Ocean does,
I can talk to Mr,, Templin and
see what he suggests,
I think it's a good idea not to
make any noise, no more than we
have to about this,
I don't think Home Savings and
Loan is unaware of this problem,,
City Manager, Mro Aiassa: This is an extension of Cameron
Avenue onto California. This is
less than 312.5 square feet of right of way that must be acquired. The
Keys are asking $400 for the right of way, (Read report re this
matter,,)
Motion by Councilman Heathy seconded by Councilman Jett, that the
City Manager be instructed to approach Mr. Keys and offer him $350
for that parcel of land for Cameron Avenue,, Motion passed on roll
call as follows.
Ayes- Councilmen Towner, Jett9 Heath, Snyder9 Mayor Barnes
Noes- None
Absent- None
CROSSING GUARDS
JOINT PARTICIPATION EXPENSE
(SCHOOL -CITY)
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa-
(Read report re this matter,,)
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
.that the City Manager prepare resolutions regarding this for the
23rd,,
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued
SENATE BILL 344
One Cent Gas Tax
City Manager' Mr,, Aiassa:
PRECISE PLAN NO,, 366
Aneas
Police Department Report
Page Twenty -Nine
I'll give you a report on the
23rd on this,,
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa-. The Chief of Police will not
give any further reports on
traffic,, I advised him any report forthcoming shall come from the
Traffic Committee and I would so like to notify the Planning Depart-
ment and the Planning Commission that it goes to the Traffic
Committee and not to any individual man,,
Motion by Councilman Heath_, seconded by Councilman Jett, that the
Planning Department and the Planning Commission be informed that
any report on traffic forthcoming shall come from the Traffic
Committee and not any individual man; further, that the letter
concerning the zoning of the Aneas Corporation whereby the Chief
of Police stated his stand on density be rescinded,,
Councilman Heath: There was a letter presented into
evidence into the hearing whereby
the Chief of Police voiced his opinion on density and so forth and
so on,, I think it was entirely out of order and I think the Chief
should keep his comments to traffic and so forth but not to density,,
Councilman Snyder-. I don't know how you can rescind it,
You're assuming that the whole
decision was made on that letter,, I don't think he should have done
it and he said he wouldn't in the future but I don't see any point
in rescinding it,,
Councilman Heath: I think it should be withdrawn,,
If this case comes up again it
will be quoted I think it should be withdrawn,,
Councilman Jett-. It's a matter of record. I
don't think we could stop these
people from using it if they were going to use it in the future.
Action on Councilman Heath's motion-.
Towner and Snyder voted "No",,)
MERCED AVENUE LOWERING
(Valinda to Primeaux)
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa:
Motion carried, (Councilmen
I have given you cost estimate
reports. Review this and we can
bring it up on the 23rd for fur-
ther discussion.
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS m Continued
EAST SAN GABRIEL VALLEY CITY MANAGERS GROUP
City Manager, Mro Aiassa:
CITY MANAGER'S VACATION
Page Thirty
I have been appointed Chairman,
City Manager, Mro Aiassa: I would like to take it sometime
between now and the 1st of January.
I. will try to make it convenient for the City, I will appoint Mro
Dosh to take my placeo
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
to authorize the City Manager's vacation between now and the 1st of
January, 1964; that the alternate be Mr. Dosh or Mro Flotten, subject
to Mro Dosh's vacation. ,
COUNTY ASSESSOR
Mayor Barnes:
incorporated cities in Los Angeles,
gets copies?
City Manager, Mro Aiassa:
SISTER CITY PROGRAM
We received a letter regarding
the assessed -evaluation of
Will you see to it the Council
Yes,
Mayor Barnes: Any of those interested in the
Sister City Program,'there is a
meeting.on January 26 at the Y,M,CoA, at 11531 Downey.Avenue from
11:00 A,M, to 5:00 P,Mo If anyone in the Council.wOuld like to go
to this they would like to know ahead of time. There is a luncheon,
I will notify Mrs. Hazenbush of this ffieetingo
Councilman Heath: I may go, I will make my
reservations through Mrso Hazenbush,
Mayor Barnes: I'll try to goo
There being no further business9 Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded
by Councilman Towner, and carried, that this meeting be adjourned
at 12:20 A,M,
ATTEST:
APPROVED,(.c9
MAYOR
CITY CLERK
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