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10-28-1963 - Regular Meeting - MinutesI r • MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST MVINA, OCTOBER 28, CALIFORNIA 1963 The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor Barnes at 7,30 P,,M,, in the West Covina City Hallo Councilman Jett led the Pledge of Allegiance. The invocation was given by the Rev,, Verne Barlowg Interne, of Mt,, Calvary Lutheran Church,, ROLL CALL Present, Mayor Barnes, Councilmen Jett, Heath, Towner (from 7:40 PM) Snyder (from 7,45 P,,M,,)' Others Present, Mr,, George Aiassa, City Manager Mrs,, Lela Preston, Deputy City Clerk Mr,, Harry C,, Williams, City Attorney Mr,, Thomas J. Dosh., Public Services Director Mr,, Harold Joseph, Planning Director (from 8,10 P,,M,,) Absent-, Mr,, Robert Flotten, City Clerk EDGEWOOD HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS Mayor Barnes, This evening we have a group of high school students from Edgewood High School,, Mr,, John Teresa is here this evening with the members of' his class to observe the City Council in action,, They also have with them a foreign exchange student,, Mr,, John Teresa, This is West Covina°s first opportunity to have a foreign exchange student,, This is a program initiated in 1956 that brings foreign students from all over the world to live in the United States for one year,, We have from India our little girl, Kalpana Gutki,, She is ,living with Sharon Feller from West Covina,, Mayor Barnes, It is indeed a pleasure to have the class here this evening,, Councilman Heath, I feel we should have more of this where the students come out and see how the government works,, I think they would have a better understanding of our laws and procedures. Any time any students would like to come individually or in a group, we would be more than glad to welcome them,, APPROVAL OF MINUTES • September 10, 1963 m Approved as submitted as follows, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the Minutes of September 10, 1063, be accepted as presented,, 0 -1- 0 • • Co Co 10/28/63 APPROVAL OF MINUTES o Continued Page Two September 16, 1963 Approved as submitted as follows: Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the Minutes of September 16, 1963, be approved as submitted.. September 23, 1963 Approved as submitted as follows: Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that the Minutes of September 23, 1963, be approved as submitted. September 30, 1963 Field for action as follows. Mayor Barnes: I haven`'t had a chance to check those Minutes. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that .the Minutes of September 30, i963, be held over. October 7, 1963 Approved as submitted as follows: Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that the Minutes of October 7, 1963, be approved as submitted. CITY CLERK'S REPORTS PRECISE PLAN NO. 273 LOCATION: Northwest corner of ACCEPT STREET IMPROVEMENTS Glendora and Wescove. Hartman -Noonan Co. DELETED Accept street improvements and authorize release of Aetna Casualty & Surety Co. bond No. 33 S 51359 in the amount of $9,400.00. Inspector's final report filed. Staff' recommends acceptance and release of bond. Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston° There has been a request by the Engineering Department to delete this. Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that this item (Precise Plan No. 273) be deleted. METES 8 BOUNDS SUBDIVISION N0,, 135-205 LOCATION: Southwest corner of • ACCEPT STREET IMPROVEMENTS Citrus and Larkwood. Sears R. Headlev APPROVED Accept driveway approach and street improvements; authorize release of cash bond in the amount of $400.D0. Inspector's final report filed. Staff recommends acceptance and release of cash bond. Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, to accept the street improvements in Metes and Bounds Subdivision No. 135-205 and authorize release of the cash bond in the amount of $400.00. _ -2- 1 0 Ca Ca 10/28/63 CITY CLERK"S REPORTS - Continued • PROJECT C-124 ACCEPT PARKING LOT Aman Bros. r� U 0 IMPROVEMENTS Page Three LOCATION- Orangewood and Walmerado Parks. APPROVED Accept parking lot improvements in Orangewood and Walmerado Parks and authorize release of Travelers Indemnity Co. performance bond No. 1122327 in the amount of $11,106.00 subject to Notice of Completion procedure. Inspector°s final report filed. Staff recommends acceptance and release of bond. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,, to accept the parking lot improvements in Project C-124 and authorize release of Travelers Indemnity Company Performance Bond No. 1122327 in the amount of $119106.00 subject to Notice of Completion procedure. A911m61. 1 LOCATION- Orange and Pacific ACCEPT SANITARY SEWER FACILITIES Avenues sanitary sewer Beecher Construction Co. district. APPROVED Accept sanitary sewer facilities and authorize release of Travelers Indemnity Co. bond No. 1086603 in the amount of $220,727.805. The bond will be released no soon e r than 35 days from acceptance. Notice of Completion filed. Inspector's final report filed. Staff recommends acceptance and release of bond. Proceed with surfacing. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to accept the sanitary sewer facilities in A°:f1-61-1 and authorize release of Travelers Indemnity Company Bond No. 1086603 no sooner than 35 days after acceptance of the Notice of Completion filed. RESOLUTION HELD OVER Mayor Barnes - Councilman Heath - The Deputy City Clerk presented- "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPROVING BOND TO GUARANTEE THE COST OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENT'S AND THE TIME OF COMPLETION IN PRECISE PLAN N0, 346 IN SAID CITY" Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution. It says the west side of Glendora between Service and Herring. Public Services Director, Mr. Dosh- That is where the precise plan is. Councilman Heath - Councilman Towner - City Manager, Mr. Aiassa- There are two precise plans; one for this and one for Cameron. This is for Precise Plan No. 346. This is the only thing it includes. That includes Cameron Avenue. -3- L 0 Co Co 10/28/63 Page Four RESOLUTION - Continued (Councilman Snyder entered the chambers at 7:45 P.M.) Mr. Dosh: The wording of the bond shows the limits and describes it. The bond is for Cameron Avenue for all improvements between California and Glen- dora. Regardless of what the precise plan reference is, this is for Cameron between California and Glendora. The reference is a misnomer. Mr. Williams: What he is complying with, I believe, is a condition of the deed acceptance for zoning on the R-3 property which was back of the Glendora frontage. That zoning required that he dedicate and improve Cameron Avenue not only back where the R-3 is but all the way to Glendora. I don't think this has anything to do with 346, Actually, accepting the bond doesn't have any relationshipo I suggest you scratch out the reference to Precise Plan No. 346. Mayor Barnes: We will hold this matter over until it is clarified. RESOLUTION NO. 2769 The Deputy City Clerk presented: ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEP- TING CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENTS AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF" t LLacrJ ,� ✓E'. Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said Resolution was given No, 2769. SCHEDULED MATTERS BIDS PURCHASE OF COMPACT CARS Bids opened in office of City Clerk 64-13 on October 24, 1963, as advertised. HELD Mr. Aiassa: This matter isn't coming up tonight. Mr. Kay requests this be held over to November 4. There are a lot of bids that have to be clarified. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that the matter of the purchase of compact cars (64-13) be held over to the meeting of November 4, 1963. -4- C. C. 10/28/63 SCHEDULED MATTERS m Continued HEARINGS ZONE CHANGE NO, 266 Arthur James APPROVED (R-4) Page Five LOCATION° San Bernardino Freeway between Holt Avenue and eastern city limits. Request to reclassify from Zone R-A to Zone Rm3 or R-4 denied by Planning Commission Resolution No. 1444. Appealed by applicant on August 26, 1963. Held over from September 10, 1963, to September 23, 1963, at Councils request and with applicant's approval, Hearing closed, on September 23, 1963, and held over to October 14,for eon. Held over to this date, Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston-, (Read Planning Commission Resolu- tion No. 1444.) Councilman Towner- While I was not present on September 23rd, I have read the Minutes. I would like to see posted on the board a map of the area in question. (So done by Mr. Dosh.) I have visited the area and looked at the property. I think on that basis that I am qualified to discuss this. • Councilman Snyder - City Attorney, Mr. Williams - Councilman. Snyder - Mayor Barnes - What is the maximum density in the new R-4 as adopted? 45 units per acre. What is the maximum density in the new R­2 proposed? It is 10 in the new proposed and 15 in the existing R-2. (Mr. Joseph entered the chambers at 8.1.0 P.M.) Councilman Snyder-. Do you feel that we have enough portection in our ordinance now relating to multiple family so that the Council can, when the precise plan comes in, require apartments of comparable quality to the homes around them no matter what the multiple zoning might be? Planning Director, Mr. Joseph - As you will recall we are having a study session on this on Thursday night and a lot of this information will be made available to the City Council at that time. The Rs2 as proposed was supposed to be a floating ,zone where you would insert this on properties which would be difficult to develop economically or for some other reason.. As a result of this, the Planning Commission imposed requirements in the new R®2 which would suggest that it could go in areas very close to single family development of fairly high character with a non - detrimental effect. With the R­2 as recommended by the Planning Commission we feel this could satisfy the demands of nearby residential users if the City Council felt it wished to impose on a piece of property for .which it foresaw difficulty if it were to remain R-1. Also, in my opinion, I think our present R-2 does not do this because if you will read the ordinance it permits a lot of uses which you wouldn't want in there and it isn't clear as to the degree of strictness or degree of restrictions that you could impose on the development. M13 0 C, C, 10/28/63 ZONE CHANCE NO, 266 - Continued Page Six Councilman Snyder- Do you think there are enough controls within the new R-4 that we have adopted that the City Council can require when the precise plan comes in that a type of development comparable to the surrounding homes goes in? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph- The R-4 zone is a high density multiple family zone, City Attorney, Mr...Will.iams- That zone is not meant to be compatible with R-1. With respect to the existing R-2, the existing R---2 is not: an included use in R-3, is it? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph - City Attorney, Mr, Williams - Planning Director, Mr, Joseph - The proposed R-3 or the present? The present, It is an inclusive use, Councilman Heath- On the R-4 development you are allowed only 40o ground coverage and you are permitted to go high. Although.you can''t control the actual construction, you do have the amount of ground coverage which would more or less force the man to go into landscaping and setbacks. I think you will find that the present R-2 with the price of land in the City cannot be developed economically Councilman Towner- .I think under;.the proposed R-2 ordinance you have new concepts of development that would come under this R-2 zone, This type of thing does seem to be developing and is adaptable to the suburban communities„ Have they filed any precise plan on the property? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph- No, Councilman Jett- We are talking about R-2 and R-4 and the application here is for R-3 or R-4. What is -the density of the R-3? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph- The proposed R-3 is 20 to the acre. On the existing, we have any number, 25 or 40, That is the reason we want to only have one R-3a I discussed this with the applicant before he filed and he was aware that we had suggested amending this whereby we would require only one R-30 Councilman Jett - What number of car spaces are required per unit in this? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph- At the present time the R-3A • requires one and a quarter; the R-3B is one and three-quarters, The Planning Commission, by means of Amendment 61, will recommend one and three-quarters for all the multiple family except the R-2 which will be two to one, Councilman Snyder- If you look at the property and go over the property, it is sloped mostly toward the freeway and it is a rather steep slope which has some advantages and some disadvantages, It seems to me that the topographic nature or characteristic make it almost impossible or not a good idea to consider this as R-1. If it is not R-1 and there C, Co 10/28/63 ZONE CHANGE NO, 266 - Continued Page Seven is no other use such as park or school or what have you, I think the next best.use would be multiple zoning of some type. My concern is this sticks out there in a no -manes land and whatever we do here will set the precedent for this four -corner area, For that reason, in choosing a multiple zone, I would like to choose one in which we will have the greatest degree of control in getting quality -type apartments here, The R-2 has not worked in the past and I am not convinced that it will. work here. I think the surroundings and the topography and the price of the land will probably demand out of the owner, whoever he may be, that a quality type development go in. I think we will have to work on that at the level. of the precise plan, I am -reluctant to do so, but I think the multiple family of some type is all we can give here and probably R-4 is the most practical solution, Councilman 'Heath-, I agree with Dr. Snyder that this could not be developed R-1. I don't see how this could be developed economically as R-2, If you cut down on the number of units I am afraid you will have a lot of money in the land and none in the building,, I think R-3 could be economically done and come up with a satisfactory development, It was my understanding that RT4 was meant to be used in this area for the more exclusive type of developments, I think this could go either R-3 or R-4, Councilman Jett- When we approved the R-4 I had the iimpression we were creating a good type of zoning and I thought we could put this in any area and get a good development, I think the ground coverage will somewhat control the type of development in the area. I don't think R-2 is the answer, I feel R-3 or Rm4 would be a good development for that area, Councilman Towner- The arguments against single family residential use on this property are basically two, One, it is near the freeway, and I think this argument does not apply because anything from the freeway that affects a single family home also affects an apartment house or any type of residential development you put in there. Secondly, there are the economics, I think this economic argument is what you might call a self -generating one because -the people who buy the land. pay for it on the basis of what they think they can use it for, If you go to the high rise apartment in this area, you will immediately jack up the price on all adjacent property because the people will see that the pathway has been lit and you will see it go up the hill, You will see it come down the hill, too, I think the comments made by the expert, the Executive Director of the Real Estate Board, who appeared at the League of California Cities should apply here and should be realized by this City as good advice; that the type of zoning that is more adaptable to residential suburban communities is the town house type if you are not going to single family, I think this can be •developed very beautifully and developed in accordance with land economics, If you increase the density you are also going -to increase the need for this on civic facilities, It is my belief you could develop Rml on this property but I think it is so situated that it would also be just as reasonable and just as suitable and just as beautiful to use the new proposed R-2 zoning on this, I certainly disagree with the high rise theory, -7- 0 Ll Co C. 10/28/63 ZONE CHANGE NO, 266 - Continued Page Eight Mayor Barnes. I feel this does deserve more than R-1 because of the freeway; however, because of the location and the area I think if we do something of a high rise type here we will generate high rise all the way to. the Councilman Heath. I think you will find quite a bit of activity in this immediate vicinity, some of it out of our control, Councilman Jett. Somewhere in this area I am convinced we are going to have a municipal auditorium, With this in mind, this is going to mean bringing into this area, into West Covina or wherever it might be, conventions and these conventions could be in proportion to the services that we provide. Councilman Towner. If you put high rise in here you will change the character of one of the prime residential areas of West Covina. Councilman Snyder. We already have it out this way. 'Councilman Towner. According to the City Attorney •there is a request for R-3 zoning here and this includes R-2 zoning so we could legally include the R-2 zone, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Mayor Barnes, that Zone Change No. 266 be approved as to R-2, Motion failed on roll call as follows. Ayes. Councilman Towner, Mayor Barnes Noes. Councilmen Jett, Heath, Snyder Absent. None Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, that Zone Change No, 266 be approved as to zone R-4, Motion passed on roll call as follows. Ayes. Councilmen Jett, Heath, Snyder Noes. Councilman Towner, Mayor Barnes Absent, None ZONE CHANGE NO. 271 LOCATION. Sunset Avenue between A. Bernard Muth Merced and Durness, APPROVED rRequest to reclassify R-A zoned property to Zone R-P approved by Planning Commission Resolution No. 1457. Appealed by Mrs. Oo M. Britt on September 5, 1963, as to 165 feet. Hearing closed on September 23, 1963, and held over to October 14, 19639 for decision, Held over to this date, Deputy City Clerk, Mrs, Preston. (Read Planning Commission Resolu- tion No. 1457.) C. C, 10/28/63 Page Nine ZONE CHANGE NOo 271 - Continued Councilman Heath. Mr. Joseph, we have two other maps that were used at the Planning Commission meeting showing the recommended studies of these areas, Could these be put up on the board? (So presented by Mr. Joseph.) I am the Council representative at the Planning Commission meetings. Both these zone changes went through the Planning Commission and I was present at the time. Zone Change 271 was done first and later the zone change on the left went through. (Gave brief summary of the matter.) Councilman Jett. There was an article in the Daily Tribune stating that Art Jett should disqualify himself from voting on this piece of property that is now before us, I have been in the hearings on this zone change; I have read the Planning Commission's reports. I feel I am perfectly capable of rendering an impartial decision upon this zoning and I will not refuse to vote on this, If I feel the time comes when it is necessary and when I can not render an impartial decision, I will disqualify myself„ In this case I will not disqualify myself because I am sure I can render an impartial decision, (Maps were presented and Mr. Joseph gave a brief summary of the matter.) Councilman Heath. There was a comment made to the • effect that the zoning discussed at the Planning Commission was placed on land which wasn°t applied for in the zoning, In other words, that purple on the left side of the street was not applied for at all. The property to the south, which is yellow, was applied for as R-3, The Planning Commission did not rezone that Rm3 on the left side of the street, did they? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph. No. The portion shown as purple was not applied for. Councilman Snyder. Planning Director, Mr. Joseph. How wide is that street? 100 feet. It is a major highway. Councilman Snyder. Did the Planning Commission feel that the R-1 surrounding this property on the east had a greater weight in their decision regarding planning principles than that area across the street? It seems that if it is going to conform to anything it should conform with the area surrounding it on the east, Mayor Barnes. Why was more consideration given to the people on the south than the R-I backing up to this property? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph. I don't think there was an attempt to give more weight in one location than the other, Mayor Barnes. Isn't there a block wall across Ituni at the present time? Planning Director, Mr. Joseph. There is one there at the present time. We will have to break through that block wall to put a cul-de-sac in there, MOM • Co Co 10/28/63 ZONE CHANGE NO, 271 - Continued Councilman Jett-, Planning Director, Mr, Joseph - Page ten Wouldn't those people prefer to have that not happen? I can't say, Councilman Jett- I understood that the people living on the east side of this block wall preferred not to have that wall broken, Mrs, Olive M. Britt; When I sold all that property,, I told the neighbors the Planning Director wanted the street to go through and the people there are against it because their children play in that corner and they did not want any traffic to pass their homes there, Councilman Heath- Mr, Joseph, with the amount of R-P that the Planning Commission has recommended, how many acres of R--P would there be in that site then., including the part already :coned? Planning Director, Tor, Joseph° It would be a little under four acres, If you add the yell.ow, it would be a little under two acres more. It does not incorporate the Planning Commission recommendations that this remain R-1 with the cul-de-sac, Councilman Towner- Obviously there was no opposition to this requested zone change by anyone, There were none recorded in the Minutes; I'm speaking of the. Council's Minutes, Was there any opposition recorded at the Planning Commission level.? City Manager, Mr, Aiassa- There was a Mr, Harry Hesman at 1224 Shadydale Avenue and a Mr, William Sweeney at 1215 Shadydale Avenue, Councilman Heath- Both of those were up where the R-P is already in existence, City Attorney, Mr, Williams- They just wanted the wall main- tained, Councilman Snyder- This should be considered in relationship to the R-1. surrounding it on the east side of Sunset. Although that across the street on Sunset to the west has some validity in affecting this, I don't think it is as important as that surrounding it to the east and south, I don°t think that the need for R®P is critical enough to make it necessary to have a substandard development here, which is what I think you will get if you zone this'all the way to the homes on the south because you are creating a problem with Ituni Street instead of continuing to develop it as it was planned to be developed originally, It seems to me the plan as approved by the Planning Commission makes for a much better R-1 development but not only that, for the entire neighborhood development. It fits in with what was planned there. I think the decision of the Planning Commission was wise and I think it is the only thing we should do here, C11 C, 10/28/63 ZONE CHANGE NO, 271 - Continued Page Eleven Councilman Jetto I have found that in cul,-de-,sacs there are more problems created than we ever dreamed of,. One of the major problems is stagnant water, Tests have proven that this water is contaminated, On this plan here and in the event it was approved as recommended by the Planning Com- mission with that on.e exception, I would object to putting Ituni L Street through because T think it would create problems for the Fire Department, You would have houses backing up to a major boulevard. I think Ituni Street should stop at the block wall. Councilman Snyder. What you say about water in cul--de-sa.cs is true for deep cul-de-sacs but this is not a deep cul=_de-sac. I -think if you are going to put R-1 along a major thoroughfare it should back up or side on, Councilman Townerz I don't think this is necessarily a clear-cut problem but if you apply -the normal pla.nn,ng pol, icies and ..fanning .Lanj A ing concepts of a modern community and attempt 'to protect existing homes, I think that this theory should apply here and the best way to protect them is by buffering with R-1 and backing the R=lup to the heavier development, Also, 1 think we have another problem in this area of possibly over - zoning, I do not believe that a total of four acres and four more acres, possibly ten acres across the street. and additional acreage e around the house will be used for medical purposes, You will find i t w have the other, type develz)pments allowed in the R-P zo-.-,).e in here, I believe t"here is a need for R-F z-oning in -this area bu-L-- I think the four acres would be adequate,, I think" the cu.I.-de--sac s-Lreet is certainly most acceptable, 11 - e, 1 think as far as circulating water is concerned.,, this is a problem that can be handl.ed, I think if 'this I'S a health hazard, then certainly West Covina. is full of it-, Th e J1, -- I if you are going to put it in the area should either back up or side on -to a major street and I think the bac]<ing up -method is preferable. I think the cul-de-sac i - s a. better treatment than running Ituni through, It is my opinion -that this property is not: affected by, the property to the west. I believe that the property -to the west may be effected by this property but as far as this property is concerned, I think it stands on its own, 1 think the best way to plan this property is -to draw the line as indicated by the Planning Commission, Mayor Barnes- I feel. that the Planning Commisslon had something in mind when they did it this way and we took into consideration the time of the zoning up above and the consideration of the people backing up to the property, This property has not developed in -the past and I can't see any good reason for adding more R-P at this -time. I feel the Planning Commission has done a good job in protecting the peop-le, Councilman Heath- _r I can see good and bad points an both sides of this, I will agree 10 the way the R-P was before couldn't have been developed very well. However� since they have changed the uses in the R-P to mainly office type use I think we could put a very good development on the full length of this property. If' your area is too small you are not going to get anything worthwhile. 'I would like to see the R-P go all the way down as proposed and Ituni Street stubbed off, I still don't see these block walls lining both sides of a 100-foot street, E Co C, 10/28/63 Page Twelve ZONE CHANGE NO, 271 - Continued Councilman Snyder- I do have some doubts as to the wisdom of the R-1 we required on the easterly side but that is not before us tonight. I still..think the way the Planning Commission recommended this to the south is the best solution, Councilman Heath-, The application was for R-P to the center of the cul-de-sac which would still leave a strip of R-1 to the south to act as a buffer, Councilman Snyder- Yes, but it is an unusable piece of R-1. If you bring the R-P down to Ituni Street, you can'Jt get into the R-1. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that Zone Change No. 271 be approved as R-P on the 305 feet southerly from the northern boundary of the application and the remainder to be R-1 according to the recommendations of the Planning Commission, ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented - "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES (ZC 271 - Muth.) Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to waive reading of the body of' the ordinance. Motion by Councilman Towner,, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced, ZONE CHANGE NO, 277 LOCATION, Sunset Avenue between Empire Financial Corp. Durness and Merced, HELD OVER and Request to reclassify from Zone PRECISE PLAN NO, 383 R-A to Zone R-3, and request for Empire Financial Corp, approval of Precise Plan for con - HELD OVER struction of apartments, denied by Planning Commission Resolu- tions No. 1463 and 1464, Appealed by applicant on September 13, 1963" Hearing set for October 14, 1.963, and held over at applicant's request to this date, Councilman Jett. Mayor Barnes - Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston-, I am involved in this piece of property so I would like to be excused. You are excused, Councilman Jett. (Read Planning Commission Resolu- tions No,'1463 and 1464.) Bwa • C. C. 10/28/63 ZONE CHANGE NOo 277 8 PRECISE PLAN NO, 383 - Continued Page Thirteen Councilman Snyder- If they receive a precise plan and the zoning is not yet granted, what position does that put the Planning Commission in? They have to relate it to something, City Attorney, Mr. Williams- iIf they approve it they would approve it subject to the zoning being approved which the Code permits them to do. When there is an application for both zoning and a precise plan and the zoning comes to the Council, it seems to me improper to deny the precise plan on the ground that zoning doesn't: exist. They should act on it on its merits that if the zoning is there this would be deficient for these reasons or they would approve it or whatever, Councilman Snyder° - I think they should be instructed again about this, Mayor Barnes- This is the time and place for the public hearing. IN FAVOR. Mr. Francis Jo Garvey I represent the applicant. I • 281 East Workman Avenue would request that the Council. Covina refer thi's whole matter back to the Planning Commission for a further study and a report, We recognize this would be a delay on our part but I think this should be properly before you and not half here and half there. I believe this is within your ordinance to do so9 or refer the precise plan back and continue this until you have a report on it. Councilman Snyder- I would agree to referring this back to them for a report. Councilman Heath- I agree. Councilman Towner- I agree that the precise plan should have the recommendations of the Planning Commission. However, the matter has been advertised for hearing tonight on the zone change and I don't know if we can deny the people present the right to speak on it at this time. Councilman Heath- If you are going to refer it back to the Planning Commission and there is new evidence proposed, there is no City Attorney, Mr. Williams- You could hear it but you wouldn't have the benefit of any advice . from the Planning Commission as to why they rejected it You can hear both items tonight. Mr. Francis J. Garvey- You always have.the right to continue something and certainly my applicant is the one most prejudiced by a continuance. I would ask at any event that the precise plan hearing be continued until a later date. Councilman Towner- I prefer to hear the entire matter as one package. If' the others here have no objections to holding the entire matter over I think it would be better for those concerned. m13® • • C, C, 10/28/63 ZONE CHANGE N0, 277 8 PRECISE PLAN NO, 383 m Continued Mr, Chuck Dowding-. Voice-. Page Fourteen This has been postponed once, There has been considerable preparation involved in this particular hearing, No postponements please, Mr, Francis J. Garvey-. I would like to know how many are within 300 feet of the property and how many are generally interested in it, Voice-. Second voice; Mr, Chuck Dowding-. Mr, Francis J, Garvey° I am adjacent to the property. I am within two feet. I am not within the 300-foot circle, ' I request permission to proceed on the zone case, Because of the delay in considera- tion one way or the other of your proposed R-2 zone, which is what the applicant is really interested in, we have been forced to apply for R-3 as this will come close to doing what we want in the way of a condominium type of development, There will be suggested to you some revisions of the precise plan before this matter is finally decided, I am perfectly willing to go ahead on the zoning with the understanding that any reference to the precise plan at this point is only incidental to give you an idea of what the development is. This is our application and we are the ones who will have to live with your decision and I think we should be given an equal amount of consideration as to those who have come to object to what: we have in mind, The Planning Commission hearing on this was, I think, less of a public hearing in terms of what we had an opportunity to present than any that has been my pleasure to attend on behalf of my applicants here because we came in and we faced a report from the Planning Department in its recommendations to the Planning Commission which absolutely precluded any consideration of the case we were presenting, I am not saying they were not justified in making recommendations which they felt were there, but this is what they .did. They presented a recommendation .in view of studies in which they showed this area squared off to conform with the Britt case not before them, They recommended that this other property be considered foran R-P zone which was not before them at that time, Secondly, they conceded that 57 feet of this property, which is some 300 feet long, could be zoned R-P in order to meet the squaring off theory and then they presented us withan R-1 subdivision opening from the deadend of the highschool and coming back. I say we did not have a fair hearing that night, I hope you will be able to divorce your minds from what you have just done across the street, This matter has had the same type of consideration at the Council in that the Britt case continued to be held with this matter time after time until the two could be reflected against each other, 'I am first to concede that planning in a city has to be given an overall consideration, (Pre- sented a map and explained same,) m14® Co C,, 10/28/63 Page Fifteen ZONE CHANGE NOo 277 8 PRECISE PLAN NO,, 383 - Continued • Some time ago the City Attorney gave a very fine definition of the catagories of zoning and how your highest zoning was R-1,, • We have a 100-foot highway. Per-, paps this is not the best place upon which to live but if it is not a good place for R®1, it is not a good place for Rm3. We already have Ral along these two places,, There is a continuing demand in this area for multiple family We are looking for a transition area. We can buffer them with a more intense use and we would have a graduated use of single family, multiple family in roughly 10 family per acre use, up to your R®P and your C use,, I don't think it is necessary to state the number of times that R-3 is placed adjacent to schools. This is adjacent to Edgewood High School,, Some pretty good authority indicated that multiple family at the present time does not demand the same amount of school facilities as is demanded by single families,, The present precise plan shows 76 apartments on 4,,7 acres,, We concede that this is too many. We would like to get into the R-2 class of approximately 10 apartments per acre in which. case we could loosen this development up considerably,, We have here a 20.4% coverage not including accessory buildings; and 29.2% coverage including accessory buildings which would conform in your new Rm3 and R-2 classifications,, We have a Little better than one and a quarter garages and 52 additional parking spaces. We have recreational facilities. More would be provided in the proposed revised plan,, This block between Durness and Merced is spotted in terms of zoning at the present time to the point where we ought not to be concerned in this situation with spot zoning. I believe to suggest Rm1 in this area purely for the sake of squaring off what has been done on the other side would be to deny a use to this property which is not justified,, IN OPPOSITION Mr,, Louis Olivo 1439 West Durness Street West Covina zone,, (Read said letter,,) There is type of development in this area,, I am on -the corner of Durness and Trojan Way,, I wrote a letter to the City Council giving my reasons why I objected to this change of neither a need nor a desire for this Mr,, Philip Heberbrand I am adjacent to this property,, 2.415 Durness Street I signed the same letter Mr,, Olivo West Covina just read,, Our children at the present time play at the play- ground in the schoolyard. On the north side of Merced is a park and we do use it. There is always a Little League baseball game there. The children can't go up there alone under the present traffic conditions,, If we have this R®2 as proposed here with 104 garages, it is just adding more traffic to our little area. There are a lot of children using that playground and using the schoolyard after school and in the summer,, m15m Co Co 10/28/63 ZONE CHANGE NO,, 277 8 PRECISE PLAN NO,, 383 o Continued • Mr,, Hazelbeck 142.1 Durness Street West Covina of my privacy,, If there were backyard and my living room,, Mr,, Chuck Dowding 1605 South Belmont Avenue West Covina Page Sixteen I would be adjacent to the proposed development,, I agree 100% with Mr,, Olivo?s letter,, My basic objection would be the infringement apartments, everybody could look into my I believe I signed Mr,, Olivo°s letter,, particularly bad one,, The matter of under written and oral communications I am testifying in the shadow of a personal threat that I received from a member of the Council,, I think this application is a a threat can be properly handled later in the evening. I have a ten -year -old girl at the California School; I have a 12-year-old boy at the Sunset School; and I have a 16myearmold boy at Edgewood High,, This puts this subject property right in the middle. This rezoning appeal takes on a familiar pattern,, The Planning staff and Planning Commission turned down this application (Presented chart and explained same,,) School over- crowding and safety,, increased density of the traffic flow on Sunset, relationship to the proposed development to a potential slum develop- ment, and the parking problem are things I will talk about. The occupancy of apartments in the San Gabriel valley is inordinately high,, These include a great number of children living under substandard space conditions and present a problem of impact on future school facilities,, We have approximately 5,000 multiple family units committed in West Covina,, The Master Plan recommends a total. of 4,800 at a population of some 66,,000. Our present population level is approximately 61,000. We have currently exceeded the recommendations of the Master Plan and the future plan of the City on a very early basis,, In connection with the major highway,, it is normally the opinion of the lay that R®1 developments adjacent to major and secondary highways is an undesirable thing,, (Read from General Plan,,) In terms of parking,, you all know that any apartment you go by,, the parking out on the front street is just about bumper to bumper,, Here we are proposing putting in these apartments right next door to a high school. I am sure you will consider and deny wrong involved in this application,, • REBUTTAL The many aspects of this proposal this application,, There is great Mr,, Francis J. Garvey,, Some one says the units will sell for $15,,000 and just some time I would like to come to one of these hearings and find out where my opposition gets this information,, I haven't the foggiest notion what one of these units will cost,, I know the Empire Financial Corporation has no idea of what they will cost or sell for,, We wish to revise the precise plan and change it. One gentleman said this development will destroy his privacy and his view of the mountains,, I submit that almost -16- Ce Co 10/28/63 Page Seventeen ZONE CHANGE NO, 277 8 PRECISE PLAN NO. 383 9 Continued • anything which you build tends as you put it closer to destroy your view of that which is further away. On this particular precise plan you notice that the buffering along Durness Street was a row of garages which would have insured their privacy by cutting off their view of the apartment development, As to the height, I understand that at the present time two-story.residences can be built any place in the City of West Covina, If not, enough variances have been granted recently to permit this, • • Mr, 01ivo points out that the traffic problem at Edgewood High is out of control day and night, that people use these streets coming from the high school and it creates a bad situation endangering their children, Yet the only way to develop this as R-1 is with a cul-de-sac which would intensify this situation and increase the danger to these people because you provide another blind alley where the racers can go. If the apartments were developed or if multiple family developed somewhat as indicated here and with suitable protection to prevent through traffic, the traffic problem would not be increased because of this development but in some sense this development would tend to alleviate the problem by taking care of its own problem whereas if you put single family residences in there with a cul-de-sac out to Trojan Way you must necessarily increase the traffic to come out of that cul-de-sac onto Trojan, There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed, Councilman Towner- It seems to me we dongt have the complete picture on this property. Until we have the precise plan as revised I think this should go through the. Planning Commission before we consider this in total. There are differences between this property and the property across the street: that may justify different treatment, Councilman Heath- Is your thinking the same as mine, that we should ask the Planning Commission to look at a precise plan as of Rm3 or the possibility of R-2? Councilman Towner- What I have in mind is the R-2 according to the proposed or what was suggested by Mr. Garvey as the goal they intend to shoot for. If they come in with that type of development I think it would put a different picture on the whole application than what is presented here in the nature of the R-3. I don't believe I see justification for Rm3 in here. The objections to this were based primarily on privacy and on traffic and this is one reason I think we should have a considera- tion of the precise plan before we go into the further discussion of this because it may be possible to control or alleviate those problems, Councilman Snyder - I agree with all that has been said, Mayor Barnes- The hearing is closed on the zoning plan will remain open, only; the hearing on the precise Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that Zone Change No, 277 be held over and continue the matter of Precise Plan No, 383 to December 9; that the matter of the precise plan be sent back to the Planning Commission for report, -17-. r� U Co Co 10/28/63 HEARINGS m Continued Page Eighteen VARIANCE NO. 459 LOCATION. On the east side of Martin Oil Company Vincent between Garvey APPROVED and Workman. Request for approval of an identification sign approved by Planning Commission on September 11, 1963. Called up by Council on September 30, 1963, Mayor Barnes. IN FAVOR This is the time and place for the public hearing. Mr. William Houston I am here to explain why we want 804 Zelzeh Avenue a variance on this sign. The Reseda type of sign, size and all, has been approved with the reservation that we turn the sign so that it does not hang over the sidewalk. The sign is high enough and covered by insurance in such a manner that it absolves the City completely of any 'responsibility in case of any accidents involving the sign. We are trying to avoid the expense of turning the post and turning the sign. Our company suggested that they didn't want to go to that expense if it could be avoided. IN OPPOSITION Mr. Robert Ebiner Insofar as the sign is concerned, Attorney at law its existence is an accomplished 1502 West Service fact but I think the location is West Covina improper as will appear from the file. This sign was put up without any prior authorization or approval by any official department of this community. I think it is presumptuous can the part of the land owners to now request that it not be removed. I think the decision of the Planning Commission is entirely proper and should be upheld. The sign extends four feet on public property. The argument that insurance covers the City is without merit in that any matter that might arise from a defective sign or an injury resulting from this the City would entail an involvement even though insurance might come to the City's defense. We submit that the Planning Commission's recom- mendations be approved and that the sign either be removed physically so as to back off and fit within the private property or that it be turned. Either change will not affect its visibility insofar as Vincent Avenue is concerned. Traffic on the freeway can't see the sign no matter where it is located. If this had been an error of the City, I would say discretion would be the better part of valor. This was a presumption on the part of the property owner and is a burden he should assume and properly so. Mr. Ronald V. Arms Is the sign at the present time is1010 West Greendale of the proper square footage? West Covina Planning Director, Mr. Joseph,: Mr. Ronald V. Arms. It is not over the square footage. I have no other statement to make other than I agree with the statements Mr. Ebiner made. C. Co 10/28/63 Page Nineteen VARIANCE NO. 459 ® Continued • REBUTTAL Mr. William Houston: It was my understanding that the placement of that sign -- its location was included in the precise plan and approved by the Planning Department and the Planning Commission. There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed. Councilman Towner: I would comment first that I think it is unfortunate that the sign was put up without the formal approval, the whole problem might have been averted. I think there has been precedent set overhanging in public property -- the Union Oil at Citrus and Garvey where they were required to put their sign back and not overhang the public right of way. I don't know that we should treat one applicant different than another. It is also true that while there may presently be insurance holding the City harmless we cannot be sure this will be true at all times in the future as long as the sign exists. The City does have this potential responsibility. Councilman Snyder: I think the question of insurance is not important. It is our duty • to protect people from getting hurt. The applicant is attempting to push his sign near the street which is good for him but would create a dangerous precedent, If we allow one man to overhang a public sidewalk other applicants could ask for the same thing and I don't think we could really allow this precedent to get started. Councilman Jett: I cant see the concern of the sign hanging over the sidewalk when we have dozens and dozens of places here in the City with signs hanging over the sidewalks. I made a point of looking at this sign to see if this could be objectionable to anybody. Coming from the south going north as the sign now sits you can see it as you go underneath the freeway and as you get down at the bottom you can see the sign., I cant see how it could possibly hurt anything or anybody by allowing it to remain as it exists. Councilman Snyder: City Attorney, Mr. Williams: public space. I think the zoning to some extent over public space. public space and in addition to a to occupy the space. Utilities, I believe, have to have an easement to hang over public sidewalks, don't they? Some utilities have franchises which give them the permit to occupy ordinance gives a right to protrude There is no right to occupy the variance it would require a permit • Mayor Barnes: Does this sign conform to the permit granted for the sign? Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: There was no permit issued for the sign. There was a dis- agreement about what was permitted and what was not. At the Planning Commission level I think it was pretty well established, even with the station manager, that there was no approval given and no permit _19® Ca Co 10/28/63 VARIANCE NO,, 459 m Continued Page Twenty issued,, Bill Fowler indicated that he was very explicit when he signed off the precise plan for a building permit, though he gave permission for a hole for a post to be located in that this was not to be construed as anything until there was approval for the location of a sign by some formal action,, Mayor Barnes: With a quarter turn this sign could be facing the same way it is and still not extend over the public right of way, I think it could be handled without very much expense and possibly do almost as much good,, I felt this is one solution that would have comparatively no cost to it,, Another -thing, I would like to ask the City Manager to check all other signs in our City to see if there are permits for any overhanging signs over public rights of way,, Councilman Snyder: I would agree with that,, City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: In the first place it must be more than protruding over sidewalks because some of these buildings have sidewalks on private property and some in the Plaza and center area are on private property,, Councilman Jett: I don't think I would want to be part of forcing these businessmen • to come in for permits to keep their signs,, I think this would be going way out in the wild blue,, Councilman Heath: Maybe we should find out how many signs protrude over the public right of way now before we make him change his sign,, Councilman Snyder: Whether there are any projecting over public property or not it is still not good planning and it is still not what we want. I think a lot of these you made reference to hang over sidewalks that are private sidewalks,, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that Variance No,, 459 be granted according to all the recom- mendations of the Planning Commission,, ZONE CHANGE NO,, 253 LOCATION: Between Vincent and Henry E. Vagt and Maplewood and between Robert L,, Brooks, et al,, Garvey and Greendale,, DENIED Request to reclassify from Zone R-1 to Zones C-1 and R®P denied by Planning Commission Resolution No,, 1369,, Appealed by applicant on March 21, 1963, Matter came up for hearing • before Council on April 8, 1963, and was continued for a period of six months with the stipulation that the matter was to be readvertised and renotified at expense of the applicant if he still desires the zone change,, Hearing scheduled for this date,, Deputy City Clerk, Mrs,, Preston: Mayor Barnes: (Read Planning Commission Resolu- tion No,, 1369,,) This is the time and place for the public hearing,, -20- Co Co 10/28/63 Page Twenty -One ZONE CHANGE NO,, 2.53 - Continued • IN FAVOR Mr,, Bob Brooks (Gave brief summary of surrounding 179 West San Bernardino Road uses.) This area is conducive to Covina an R-P and a C-1 type zoning, The homes we want to move are obsolete functional homes. The ones in question F,,H,,A,, will not lend on. Honeywell trucks take Vincent. There is a lot of traffic on Vincent. The zone change we are asking for does not cost one dime for added police protection,, The property we are trying to put in are attorneys' offices, real estate, beauty parlors, et cetera,, I don't understand why anybody would protest this,, There are only 17 types of business that you can put in R-P4 they are decent type uses,, I think it would be for the best interests of the whole community, not anybody alone,, Mr,, Frank Egralia I am in favor of this zone change, 230 Vincent Avenue There is a lot of traffic on West Covina Vincent,, IN OPPOSITION Mr,, Robert Ebiner This matter came up on April 8 and 1502 Service at that time the applicant West Covina requested that these matters be • held over for six months. At that time I had petitions signed by 248 property owners in the area,, (Presented petitions to the Deputy City Clerk,,) One of the points made at the time I prepared this particular document on behalf of the property owners related to the fact there were deed restrictions on all of the property under consideration. You will recall we were talking about the Martin Gas Station and secondly this application by Mr. Vagt and Mr. Brooks for ten lots up Vincent from the gas station,, As I indicated to the Council that evening I had just been retained and at the time I had not been able to obtain a title report or complete research concerning the effect of the deed restrictions which exist on the property,, As matters progressed in the ensuing weeks certain action contemplated by the Vincent Avenue property owners was not taken for the reason that the very people who created deed restrictions on this property were taking advantage of the fact that they themselves had not complied with the law in making the deed restrictions effective,, As a result, we were unable to make use of the law as it exists in preventing the erection of the Martin Gas Station,, However, I feel it should be brought to the Council's attention that the people who bought this property ten years ago bought residences, single family homes, whose title reports from the title company and whose deeds reflected the fact that this property would be used for a number of years as single family residential and nothing else. This is spot zoning. You are creating strip zoning along Vincent Avenue,, The erection of the Martin Gas Station on the corner of Vincent and Garvey was an exception; it was not intended to be a guide,, The members of this • Council did not want Vincent Avenue to take the same form as Azusa Avenue,, The General Plan calls for low density housing in this par- ticular area,, If this particular application is approved, we are violating that basic principle,, Then it is strip zoning and it is a question of time before the remainder of Vincent Avenue will go commercial or R-P. There has been a great deal of discussion from time to time that the property along Vincent Avenue is that of a busy street, one which is a truck route. The only truck -21 Co Co 10/28/63 Page Twenty -Two ZONE CHANGE NO,, 253 - Continued • route authorized through the City of West Covina is Azusa,, Vincent, which has been considered, is not accepted as such,, Regarding the need for this particular type of zoning in this particular type of area, we have ample zoning in other parts of the City which are satisfactory for the designs of this particular applicant,, All we have here is a land speculator who is desirous not of protecting or benefiting the City but developing the property so as to benefit himself alone on a short-term basis,, Mr,, John Cox I concur with everything that has 1020 West Teresa Street been said,, The unity of our West Covina neighborhood is expressed in this petition showing how we are behind this,, We don°t want this zoning at all. Vincent is not a decaying area,, We feel that since the street is so busy, the access that would be necessary for R-P zoning would intensify the matter. There are professional buildings in the area and some of them are vacant,, Mr,, Ronald V. Arms I would concur with Mr. Cox and 1010 West Greendale Mr,, Ebiner,, If the R-P and Cml West Covina zoning goes in it will increase the value of the property along Vincent, but what happens to the property behind this? It will decrease the value of this,, It happens every time. I am the second house off of Vincent,, I would benefit by this,, I don3t want it,, I feel this will increase the traffic along Vincent; it will provide a condition similar to Los Angeles where you go by a school and you find gasoline stations, candy stores, everything of this sort and it is congested. I think we should concentrate our C zoning in the area it belongsin accordance to the Master Plan,, Mr,, Ken Kisselberg I am immediately behind the 207 Maplewood Martin Oil Station,, I concur with West Covina the other gentlemen. Originally the City Council turned down the request for the gas station for the C-1 zoning,, It was only after the proponents came in with a buffer park to buff this C-1 from the residential property that they considered it,, I don°t think anything has happened in six months that has changed that situation enough that any further consideration should be made. You felt it was important then,, You demanded a buffer to stop exactly the thing that is happening now,, This is the only way it was ever granted in the first place. At the hearing on the C zoning for the Martin Oil Company I heard the other Mr,, Houston say they wouldn't change a tire; that they did nothing but sell gas and so forth,, They change tires there,, The real estate salesmen specified • the desired uses in R-P. At the gas station they have a sign where they have a mechanic on duty to repair cars and so forth, but I remember the man who wanted this zoning said that they would not even change a tire. For someone to say the use of the property is going to be thus and so, once it is zoned it can be used for anything and some of it can be mighty undesirable to a residential neighborhood,, m22-, • Ca Ca 10/28/63 ZONE CHANGE NO, 253 - Continued Mrs. Natalie Kirk 1044 East Greendale Street West Covina If he is considering just a few let him consider all of Vincent Mr, A, Jamrose 1016 West Greendale Street West Covina Page Twenty -Three He mentioned that the taxes were very high. He knew what the taxes were and he didn't need to buy it and he doesn't live there anyhow. blocks for the traffic and everything Avenue because that traffic goes through. shouldn't be forced to live adjacent businesses, The need of this type of very questionable. There seems to be REBUTTAL The question here tonight is strip zoning. We purchased homes in a residential area to live in that type of an area and we to or in the area of commercial use in this particular area is plenty of facilities for this, Mr, Bob Brooks: I don't think I have heard from anyone living on Vincent Avenue, I would like to ask you gentlemen to just render a decision and give what you think would be the best land use for this property. I think it would be better used as C-1 and R-P but maybe just R-P. There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed, Councilman Towner: It seems to me the answer on this question should come fairly quickly in view of our action on the Martin Oil Station and the reservation of the so-called park adjoining it. It was my understand- ing this was to put an end to development north on Vincent. I think the application here should be denied; that we should retain the character of Vincent Avenue on the north, Councilman Snyder: I don't think much discussion is necessary. I think it has been said pretty well out here. I am a little amazed that anybody should think that after our action on the Martin Oil Company that C-1 should go here, Councilman Heath: I don't see that we have much choice here, Mr, Mayor, In that petition, and I assume that it is quoted correctly, there is a deed restriction. Even if'we did grant the zoning it couldn't be used because anyone in that tract could void it or could keep com- mercial from going in, Mayor Barnes: I am the very one who suggested that a park be put on the north side • of the station to prevent this from occurring. I don't feel it should be commercial. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that Zone Change No, 253 be denied, -23- Ca C, 10/28/63 HEARINGS - Continued Page Twenty -Four isPROPOSED AMENDMENT NO, 62 Request to amend the text and map City Initiated of the Zoning -Ordinance in West Covina to provide that all potential zones now shown on the zoning map shall be eliminated and that all property which is now covered by potential zoning shall be zoned according to its present zoning and the potential zone shall be deleted, approved by Planning Commission Resolution No, 1394, Held over from meeting of May 13, 1963, to June 10, 1963, to July 8th, to July 22nd, Hearing closed, Held over to August 26th, and then to this dates (Mr, Joseph gave a brief summary of the matter,) Councilman Jett: I think the staff was instructed by this Council to begin this procedure, to bring this to pass, I am amazed nothing has been done about it, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: It was on my agenda and we never got to it in several months, Councilman Snyder: It isn't that critical, It has been hanging on for years. If we still want him to go ahead, let's instruct him tonight. I think • it was a reasonable request to come back and ask about this, Councilman Heath: The way I made the motion was that anyone who wanted to have their potential zoning firmed up, we would commence procedures on it, Any- one who asked for a zoning other than their potential we would then., tell them that they would have to go through their own zoning or else the Planning Commission would talk with them first and if they wanted to firm up their potential but if they did not want to and wanted some other zoning it was strictly on their own, Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: Of the 33 that responded about one-half dozen asked for zoning less restrictive than the potential, City Attorney, Mr, Williams: The ordinance before you is that you may dispense with either posting or mailing but you must advertise and do either one, posting or mailing, I think you could either through the paper or by a letter to each of the owners state that if they would provide us with a radius map so that they could do some of the work and get the addresses that we would initiate it, I think some of them may not really want to initiate it in spite of the fact they say so until they get ready to build. It is not too unfair to have them take some part of the burden, • Councilman Jett: I think this is reasonable, Councilman Heath: Approximately how many signs would be put around a parcel for rezoning? Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: You put signs within..300.feet:.along the street on which the property fronts spaced a minimum of 100 feet apart, -24- C,, Co 10/28/63 Page Twenty -Five PROPOSED AMENDMENT NO,, 62 - Continued Councilman Towner; Why don't we set a time limit on those who provide us with a radius map and property owner lists on or before a certain date,, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to rescind any action done in the past on potential zoning,, City Attorney, Mr,, Williams- The hearing is closed,, Then I think there would be these two motions- One would be to have an ordinance drawn that deletes the potential zones. Then it would be to give notice to each of these property owners who responded that if they will provide the radius map and the property list and want their property rezoned to the potential zoning the City will then initiate the rezoning on receipt of the map and property list provided it is furnished to the City within six months,, Councilman Heath: City Attorney, Mr. Williams - Can't it all be done in one hearing? I think it would be easier if you spread them out,, Councilman Jett- Which motion should come first? If • we make the motion to delete.the potential zoning we have now removed all the potential zoning,, Councilman Snyder- But in the same motion we are allowing them to get it back,, City Attorney, Mr,,.Williams- You would just instruct the City Attorney to prepare an ordinance to delete. Until you pass it it won't have any effect,, Councilman Jett- Shouldn't we initiate the second portion first when we come to the hearings and then notify these people that unless they do take advantage of this within the given period of time we will then delete all potential zoning? City Attorney, Mr,, Williams- It is kind of the cart before the horse question. I think unless you say you are repealing the potential zoning there is no initiative to go to all this work,, Councilman Heath- I think it should be stated in the motion that this applies only to persons who have requested a zoning identical to the potential zone,, City Attorney, Mr,, Williams- Who responded and requested the . same zoning,, Councilman Towner- It seems to me we would have to hold up the deletion motion until we completed the six-month period and,gave all these people the opportunity, City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: We would simply repeal the part about potential zoning without reference to specific property,, -2 5- Co Co 10/28/63 PROPOSED AMENDMENT NO, 62 - Continued Page Twenty -Six • Councilman Snyder- We are promising in the same breath if they will come in we would consider giving them valid zoning, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that the City Attorney be instructed to draw up the ordinance that deletes the potential zones; that notice be given to each of these property owners who responded that if they will provide the radius map and the property list and want their property rezoned to the potential zoning that the City will then initiate the rezoning on receipt of the map and property list provided it is furnished to the City within six months; that this applies only to persons who have requested a zoning identical to the potential zone. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder9 and carried, that the property owners who requested a zone other than their potential that the Planning Department advise them that if they want a zoning other than their potential zoning that it would be up to them to initiate or else after six months we will withdraw the potential zoning and leave the land in the zone which it now occupies. • PLANNING COMMISSION TENTATIVE TRACT N0, 29126 LOCATION- On the east side of Brutoco Development Co. Azusa Avenue, south of APPROVED Francisquito Avenue, Area District IIA, Zone C-1, R-P, R-2 and R-3. 57.5 Acres. 7 Lots. Approved by Planning Commission on October 16, 1963. Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston- (Read recommended conditions of the Planning Commission.) Mayor Barnes. Mr. Brutoco, do you agree to all these conditions? Mr. Louis Brutoco- Yes. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to approve Tentative Tract No. 29126 subject to the conditions of the Planning Commission. CITY ATTORNEY • ORDINANCE N0, 820 The City Attorney presented- ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 259, Aneas) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance. -26- Co Co 10/28/63 Page Twenty -Seven ORDINANCE NO, 820 - Continued • Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said ordinance be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes.- Councilmen Jett, Heath, Mayor Barnes Noes: Councilmen Towner, Snyder Absent.- None Said ordinance was given No, 820, ORDINANCE NO, 821 The City Attorney presented.- ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING THE PROVISIONS OF THE ZONING CHAPTER OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE R-A AND R-1 ZONES" Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner,, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said ordinance be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows.- • Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes.- None Absent: None Saidordinancewas given No. 821, ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented.- HELD OVER "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (Sade) Councilman Snyder.- I think that the questions you had concerning unit development are not answered by this, If we wait until the dedication of property that will at least help us with that part, Councilman Heath.- What else do we need now? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: If you pass this ordinance I would bring in at your next meeting a resolution repealing the precise plan and this would cancel it all out, that we simply zone it C-1. Before any development could take place there would have to be precise plans submitted, When it is submitted if the opposite street is not yet dedicated I presume you would require it to be dedicated. You may not get a situation where you have a complete street improvement and dedication. You may not get it in one precise plan; you may get it in several bites, Councilman Towner.- It is most likely to come in in small bites and these are small residential lots and this is the problem, I think the only way it is -27- C, Ca 10/28/63 ORDINANCE - Continued Page Twenty -Eight acceptable at all is under one single precise plan or as a unit where you had better control, City Attorney, Mr, Williams: If you want to get the dedications first, the record will show that the very night these people were here and this suggestion was made that the suggestion was made that you adhere to the matt-er of getting the dedications in first. I did say something to the effect that they might not have to post bonds -o guarantee the improvement of these streets, This is entirely up to you, Councilman Jett: I don't think you will get nine property Owners to develop this property under one parcel, It can't be done, City Attorney, Mr, Williams: I don't think so, either, Councilman Jett: I would like to see a provision where we could get the development of the street, the completion of the street before this zoning is rirmed up,. Councilman Snyder: If you get the street improvements you still can't prevent nine • curb cuts. We have no way of guaranteeing it will develop as a unit and I am afraid it falls back to the statement that it can't be done; it's not good C-1 zoning developed in pieces, City Attorney, Mr, Williams: If you want to get dedication and improvement, simply hold this ordinance and make a motion that you will pass this ordinance if and when the street has been dedicated or either improved or the improve- ment guaranteed by bond, Councilman Jett: This is what I want, Councilman Towner: This means you still have to get all nine people to act and improve and dedicate the street before the C-1 zoning goes in effect on any portion of it? City Attorney, Mr, Williams: Yes; it is one ordinance that zones it all, Mr, Ray Kilz: That would throw us back to where we were originally when we came in with the whole precise plan. If we have to wait for the nine people to get together, this is impossible, This would mean we would never be able to develop the property, • City Attorney, Mr, Williams: Mr, Ray Kilz: City Attorney, Mr, Williams: They can each separately dedicate the part in front of their property. But you said "and improve", Ypu could go with a "ll" Act if the majority of the people were willing, Co Co 10/'28/t3 ORDINANCE - Continued Page Twenty -Nine • Councilman Snyder: Mr. Kilz says it is impossible to develop it as a unit and this Council has stated that they didn't want this C®1 zoning here unless it can be developed as a unit. • Councilman Jett: I never made that statement. Mr. Ray Kilz: Couldn't you control this strictly on the precise plan for each individual owner? We can give you the dedication for each owner, but to say each property owner has to either put in the improvements or bond them, it's just impossible to get them all together. Why not do it on an individual basis? Mayor Barnes: We don't want a situation like we had on the east side of Azusa. These can be hazardous as far as traffic is concerned. Councilman Jett: You would then have nine breaks in the curb. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that this matter be held over for two weeks during which time a survey should be made by one of the applicants to determine if dedication and bonding can be arranged. ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 272, Lane) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance's reading be waived. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced. ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 270, Gray) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded -by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced. —29— 0 • C„ Ca 10/28/63 CITY ATTORNEY - Continued ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION Page Thirty The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 275, Collins) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced. ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented - "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND-' ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 2749 City Initiated) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance,, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced,, ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE GIVING OF NOTICE IN ZONING PLATTERS" Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced,, ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEND- ING CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE REGULATION OF TRAFFIC" Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that said ordinance be introduced,, -30- • • • C,.. Ca 10/28/63 CITY ATTORNEY - Continued RESOLUTION NOo'2770 ADOPTED Mayor Barnes, Page Thirty -One The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA TEMPORARILY CLOSING TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC A PORTION OF ARMEL DRIVE" Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Beath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said resolution was given No, 2770, RESOLUTION NO, 2771 ADOPTED Mayor Barnes: The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA REGARDING SUPPLEMENTAL WATER SUPPLY" Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said resolution was given No, 2771, CITY CLERK RESOLUTION N0, 2772 ADOPTED Mayor Barnes: The Deputy City Clerk presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA GRANTING ITS CONSENT TO THE ANNEXATION OF A CERTAIN PORTION OF SAID CITY TO COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT N0, 22 OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY" Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution, -31- • • C. Co 10/28/63 Page Thirty -Two RESOLUTION NO,, 2772 - Continued Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said resolution be adopted,, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes-. Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes-. None Absent-. None Said resolution was given No,, 2772,, RESOLUTION NO,, 2773 ADOPTED Mayor Barnes-. The Deputy City Clerk presented-. "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE WORK IN ASSESSMENT DISTRICT NO. A'11-62-2, LARKWOOD, THACKERY, AND OTHER STREETS AND RIGHTS OF WAY" Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said resolution be adopted,, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes-. Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes-. None Absent: None Said resolution was given No,, 2773,, A'11-61-2 LOCATION-. Tract 12292, Lot 15, HELD OVER Vanderhoof Drive Request of the Engineering Department for a decision relative to obtaining a sewer easement across Lot 15, Tract 12292. Property owner (R. Walker) requests release of City's rights to future street,, Review City Engineer's report and block study map. Instruct Engineer to proceed. Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that this matter be held over,, PETITION FOR SIDEWALKS Review petition for sidewalks on Service Avenue between the north side of Service Avenue • Lark Ellen and Glendora between Lark Ellen and Glendora,, Forty-three non -validated signa- tures, representing approximately 850 of the total district,, Recommend that the petition be referred to the City Engineer for study and report,, Deputy City Clerk, Mrs,, Preston: We have a report re this matter dated October 28,, Mayor Barnes, I haven't had a chance to read this,, -32- • • C. Ca 10/28/63 Page Thirty -Three PETITION FOR SIDEWALKS - Continued Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that this matter be held over. PETITION FOR SIDEWALKS Walnut Creek Parkway between Lark Ellen and Glendora Accept petition and refer to Engineering Department for study and report back to Council. Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to accept the petition for sidewalks, Walnut Creek Parkway between Lark Ellen and Glendora Avenues and refer it to the Engineering Department for study and report, PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION OF OCTOBER 16, 1963 RECREATION & PARKS REVIEW COMMISSION ACTION OF OCTOBER 22, 1963 So indicated by Mrs, Preston, So indicated by Mrs, Preston, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that the City Council ask the City Attorney -to give his opinion on the legality of the possibility of joint participation of capital improvement projects on school and City property and reconfirm our interest in the joint participation. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that the City Manager be instructed to investigate the possibility of having Los Angeles County Park and Recreation Department and the State provide some of their technicians and staff .to assist in the preliminary planning of the Galster property as a wilderness park, GENERAL MATTERS ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None, WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS COURT ORGANIZATION HEARING, CITY HALL, 450 NORTH CRESCENT DRIVE, BEVERLY HILLS Deputy City Clerk, Mrs, Preston- This is on October 31st, This is just a reminder, -33- Ll • C. Ca 10/28/63 WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - Continued Page Thirty -Four Councilman Towner: I'll attend the Senate Judiciary Committee on the 31st. I'll make the presentation that we agree with the nine district consolidation plans for a municipal court. They are holding another hearing in El Monte subsequent to this. Harvey Johnson is vice chairman of this committee. LETTER FROM GILBERT REALTY COMPANY ADDRESSED TO PLANNING COMMISSION Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston: CHAMBER OF COMMERCE (Read said letter.) a notation that the to receive a copy. There was Council was Deputy City Clerk, Mrs,, Preston: I have a letter written to the Chamber of Commerce, by the Chairman of the Committee on Transportation and Commerce. You all have copies of that. REQUEST TO SELL PEANUTS AND CANDIES Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston: I have a request to receive a solicitation permit for the San Gabriel Academy of Seventh Day Adventists to sell peanuts and candies during the home and school association annual fund raising project from November 18 to December 22nd. Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,: that the San Gabriel Academy of Seventh Day Adventists be given permission to sell peanuts and candies during the Home and School Association annual fund raising project from November 18 to December 22, 1963, and that any fees be waived. BREWSTER PUBLICATIONS Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston: I have a request addressed to the West Covina City Council from Brewster Publications. (Read letter re this matter.) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, • that this request from the Brewster Publication Company be forwarded to the City Attorney and the Chamber of Commerce; and that the fee be waived if the City Attorney rules this is legal. VAND BAKKE SKI CLUB Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston: (Read letter re this matter regarding bazaar.) -34- • • Ca Co 10/28/63 LAND BAKKE SKI CLUB -Continued Page Thirty -Five Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that permission be given to the Vand Bakke Ski Club to have their bazaar. DOWDING LETTER Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston - PLANNING COMMISSION We have a letter addressed to Mayor Barnes from C. W. Dowding. (Read said letter.) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that the Planning Commission be instructed that in the future if a zone change and precise plan is presented to them and the zone change is denied that the precise plan be reviewed and conditions attached to it the same as if the zoning was granted so that should a decision be reversed by the City Council that the City Council would have the benefit of a thinking of the Planning Commission on the conditions of the Precise Plan., CITRUS STREET Councilman Heath: We discussed the improvements on Citrus Street at Mr. Zoelle's and across the street. At that time my recommendation was to take out all. the dirt and put in blacktop. The Council overruled this and decided to put stone in. I think if you will take a look at it you will see we have wasted about $200 because the condition is worse than it was before. STUDY PLANS Councilman Snyder: Is there any study of the freeway area east of Barranca, to the eastern City limits at present available to guide us in some of the applications that will be coming in? Planning Director, Mr. Joseph- No. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that the Planning Staff be directed to make a study of this area as to best planning for this area, traffic control, zoning, planning, . et cetera. Councilman Heath: I feel the Planning Staff has a terrific load ahead of them. Councilman Snyder: There is no priority on this. This is something like a general plan study and not a precise zone study. —35— C, Ca 10/28/63 GENERAL MATTERS CIVIC CENTER AREA Page Thirty -Six Councilman Snyder: There is another building being built next to Mr. Roelle's and we should clarify whether he puts the brick in to match what is in front of Barker Brothers before he gets it in there. Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: I talked to Mr. Fowler today and we pulled the precise plan and variances for the parking and we read the Council resolution this afternoon and it says that the landscaping front and rear is to conform to Barker Brothers, WATER PROBLEM Councilman Jett: We have a meeting set up as a joint meeting with the Sari Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District that is set for the 12th of November, I think we should arrange for a dinner meeting. We have a meeting here on the 12th. What date would you like if the 12th wont do? Councilman Towner: Councilman Heath: City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Councilman Jett: SENATE FACT FINDING COMMITTEE Councilman Jett: City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Councilman Jett: City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: • MR, DOWDING°S LETTER The Sth is fine with me, I canBt be there but it is all right to go ahead without me, We should have another date just in case. What about the Sth and the 7th? Fine, Did we get a copy of the report from the Senate Fact Finding Committee? Not yet, They are available now, Would you get a copy of that? Yes, Councilman Towner: In response to this letter from Mr. Dowding that if someone does write such a letter to the immigration authorities and if you so desire and want me to write a letter, I would be happy to do so clarifying what I have observed about your conduct before the City Council and supporting your right as a resident of the United States to Constitutional guarantees of free speech and any public grievances, Councilman Snyder: I would agree with that, -36- i • • Ca Ca 10/28/63 GENERAL MATTERS - Continued APPOINTMENTS FOR NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, AND JANUARY Page Thirty -Seven Mayor Barnes: Planning Commission is Councilman Towner and c'ounci man Jett is the alternate. Recreation and Parks is Councilman Heath with Dr. Snyder as the alternate. Personnel Board is Councilman Jett and Councilman Snyder is the alternate. Committee is the same. East San Gabriel Valley Planning Upper San Gabriel Water Association is Councilman Heath and the a ternate is Counci man Jett. League of California Cites, Councilman Jett, the alternate is Dr. Snyder. Civil Defense, Mr. Aiassa. Sanitation Board, myself and Councilman Heath, Regional Library Council, Councilman Snyder with Councilman Jett as t e a ternate. GALSTER PROPERTY Mayor Barnes: Independent California Cities is myself and Councilman ea I think we have the road problem into this area solved. Public Services Director, Mr. Dosh: Mr. Galster has agreed to a compromise. It conforms to the plan that you approved tonight by Mr. Brutoco. Mayor Barnes: If it is agreeable with the Council I would like to see groundbreaking for Galster. Pa"rk at the gate going in and have the Girl Scouts and the Boy Scouts out forthis groundbreaking. Also, I think we have the meeting that we promised Judge Martin and these leaders of the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, to have a joint meeting with the Council and the Parks and Recreation Commission and Mr. Galster because as you know in our deed to the property he specifically stated that three acres should be for the Girl Scouts and three acres for the Boy Scouts. He has also recently offered to donate, he and Mr. Brutoco, fencing and steel posts to go around these specific areas. This is why I'm afraid to bring in the County planning group before we settle these things first. Councilman Snyder: We are committed to these other things first. -37- C. Co -10/28/63 GALSTER PROPERTY - Continued Page Thirty -Eight Councilman Towner: Set up a meeting with Mr. Galster. Mayor Barnes: All right, PERSONNEL BOARD Mayor Barnes: I received a letter from Bill Fortier asking to resign from the Personnel Board, He sold his home in West Covina and will no longer be living in this City, He would serve another month or two until we get someone else. Councilman Towner: So long as he is a resident I think we should ask him to continue to serve and in the meantime we could start interviewing. Mayor Barnes: If this is agreeable with the Council I'll so inform Mr. Fortier, Councilman Snyder: I would like to suggest that in View of the fact there was some information about Mr. Sorenborg we didn't know and since he really • wanted to stay on there we should reappoint him. Councilman Heath: There were a few others I want to review qualifications on. Mayor Barnes: City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: MUTUAL AID Mayor Barnes: Councilman Jett: Could you make these different people available, their names, for our review? All right. I understand the Council agreed to abandon the idea of mutual aid. That's right. Mayor Barnes: Since that time there has been an agreement to more or less keep it to fire. I think Fire Chief Wetherbee might be a good representa- tive or alternate. Councilman Jett: I am opposed to that entire setup. Is I think it is setting up another group to muddle things up; it is taking away local control; I think there are too many questions there. Councilman Snyder: I think we weren't against mutual aid but the fear was that this committee is going to expand into an implement of metropolitan government. s _1 o Co Co 10/28/63 MUTUAL AID - Continued Page Thirty -Nine Mayor Barnes: It is going to'dissolve,'at least • the steering committee is. I -was going to ask that Chief Wetherbee attend this meeting on the 6th and get on the Mutual Aid Committee. Councilman Heath: If he does, I would like to -in- struct him that I know he is in- terested in mutual aid and fire and in order for him to get mutual aid is limited to fire only and if they hook something else.into'it his vote should be "Noll, I would like to see more information con- cerning this fire mutual aid to see if this is just a start for metro- politan government, Mayor Barnes: Councilman Jett: Councilman Towner: Councilman Snyder: • Councilman Heath: Councilman Towner: Councilman Jett: STREET LIGHTS Would you.be willing that Chief Wetherbee be an alternate? I think you're putting him on the spot. I think it helps to have this representation there. I would have no objection to this, Yes. I think so. It is not agreeable with me. Mayor Barnes: Somebody has to take the blame for street lights being so close to- gether in West Covina Street Lighting Districts. I need a recommenda- tion, Mr. Dosh: We have adopted A.I.A. standards. Mr. Aiassa: (Read report re street lighting dis- trict LAD-62-1 to George Aiassa from Gerald Jo Klein, Office Engineer dated October 23, 1963 as follows: "This is in answer to your memo dated October 18, 1963, to this office relative to the installation of street lights in the district north of the Freeway. We have been making periodic field checks to guarantee that • the street lights we ordered are in fact being installed as per our request. We have been on top of this project from the start and fully intend to do so until it is completed. The street lights are being installed as designed by this office and approved by the City Council. -39- . , v C. C. 10/28/63 Page Thirty -Nine - A STREET LIGHTS - Continued Report - Continued: • "The design standards for a street light system -are rather nebulous in that it is not a purely scientific undertaking. Policy in this office is,to install street lights with -a spacing of approximately, 1401-to 1801, depending on -condi- tions too numerous to enumerate herein. We make every attempt to install street lights on property lines, where possible, but we are forced to deviate from this on cer- tain occasions. Street lighting standards have been up -graded considerably - in the past few years relative to spacing, the power of the individual street light, etc. We feel this up -dating of standards by the illuminating Engineering Society was not only desirable but mandatory in modern street lighting practice and to maintain optimum safety for the citizens. You will note in older parts of this City, street lighting spacing is such that there are dark spots between lights. We hope some day to be able to alleviate this condition. If you or the Mayor have any questions which we have not answered in this memo, perhaps a personal explan- ation of standards and this office's policy would be in order." • Mr. Aiassa: We will send up the plans and let the Council review them, DEMANDS Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, to approve demands totalling $59,407.18 as listed on demand sheets B139, C343 and C344. This total includes fund transfers of $26,620.27. Motion passed on roll,call as follows: • Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None - 39-A - • • 0 C, C, 10/28/63 CITY CLERK RESOLUTION NOo 2774 ADOPTED Mayor Barnes: Page Forty The Deputy City Clerk presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA PROVIDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL ESTATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES FOR THE EXECUTION OF A NECESSARY AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION THEREWITH AND ACCEPTING A GRANT DEED CONCERNING SAID REAL PROPERTY" (Marshall property) Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as. follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said resolution was given No, 2774, LICENSE DEPARTMENT REPORT FOR MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, 1963 Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to accept the report of the License Department for the month of September, 1963, SCOA SIDEWALK SALE Deputy City Clerk, Mrs, Preston: We have an application from Scoa for a one -day parking lot sale on the northwest corner of the main building parking lot of carpets, rugs, drapes, et cetera, This is for November 23, 1963, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that Scoa be given permission to hold a one -day sidewalk sale on November 23, 1963, as long as they have not'had one within the 12 months previous, WEST COVINA EMPLOYEES' ASSOCIATION DINNER Deputy City Clerk, Mrs, Preston: There is a memo to the City Council regarding this, -40- Ca Ca 10/28/63 Page Forty -One WEST COVINA EMPLOYEES' ASSOCIATION DINNER - Continued City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: They feel the $450 isn't adequate. Councilman Heath: I think we made a policy and I think we should stick with it. Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that the City Council pick up the tab for the dinner only to the extent of $615.00. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Councilman Towner: Before they get the money don't they have to submit some justi- fication? City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: Yes. There being no further business, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded • by Councilman Heath, and carried, that this meeting be adjourned to next Monday night, November 4, 1963 at eight o'clock, The meeting adjourned at 2:30 AaM. ATTEST: CITY CLERK APPROVED 9 �.. MAYOR -41-