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07-29-1963 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST COVINA, CA,LIFORNIA July 29, 1963 10 The adjourned regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor Barnes at 8-.45 P.M:;, ROLL CALL Present,. Mayor Barnes, Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder Others Present: Mr,, George Aiassa, City Manager .Mrs,. Lela Preston, Deputy City Clerk Mr. Thomas J, Dosh, Public Services Director Absent: Mr, Robert Flotten, City Clerk Mr. Harry Co Williams, City Attorney Mr,, Harold Joseph, Planning Director CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM Councilman Snyder: We met with Mr. Bonelli last •Wednesday, This was an exploratory meeting,, Dr. Sands told me their group reached a point where they had been told by the Regional Planning Commission that probably the only way they could build a regional auditorium is first to get a group of interested citizens who would finance a feasibility report by a firm, If they came up with a favorable report would be the basis for forming a district and going to the vote of the people. They hadn't completely abandoned this idea but they were discouraged because this would take such a long time, In meeting with Mr, Bonelli we mainly attempted to explore methods of building a regional auditorium and Mr,, Aiassa suggested there might possibly be a method of building a regional auditorium within the Regional Library District, using the Library District as a tax base,, There are two problems -- the money to build it and they are not self supporting, most of them, and they have to be subsidized, Again, this was only exploratory,, Mr. Bonelli was interested and stated he would have Mr. Wakefield, who is an attorney connected with the County, look into the legality of this and Mr. Williams would look into the legality of this and they would meet with us on August 12 out here and at that time we should have some expression of support from different groups that we can get,, There are other details that needn't be brought out yet, The City possibly could do it and lease it to the County on our property and so on but those are details, Right now I am asking Dr. Sands to obtain as many resolutions from groups as he can to present to Mr, Bonelli because he is interested in public support,, Secondly, I would like permission to approach as many groups as I have time to, Councilman Jett: How far does our Library District extend? City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: It goes clear to San Dimas and that area, The western boundary is gust short of El Monte, but does not include Pomona, -1- 1] U C, C, 7/29/63 MUNICIPAL AU ITORIUM - Continued Mayor Barnes: Councilman Snyder: to him today and he wtt4, Mx,, aonelli Comr4ttee, whether Councilman Towner: Page Two Do you know whether Dr,, Sands is representing one'group or many groups? He is representing the Inter - community Arts Council,, I talked will contact all those groups he has had contact was interested in the ,East San Gabriel Planning they would support this,, They won't meet until September Although I can lay.the groundwork for it,, Councilman Snyder: In obtaining these resolutions right now, these are merely exploratory means so I don't think we need to say it would be done under the Library District because we don't know how it will be done,, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that Dr,, Snyder be authorized to obtain resolutions of support from Chambers of Commerce, City Councils and other interested groups in the East San Gabriel Valley regarding support for an auditorium somewhere in our area,, AZUSA AVENUE Councilman Heath: About seven weeks ago I asked for authorization from this Council to be appointed to a committee or to look into the pushing of Azusa Avenue, The Council saw fit at that time not to grant me this privilege and it was given to the staff to give us some information, That was seven weeks ago and I don't see it on the program tonight,, We have a development in the southern part of our City which I think is the best development we have had in this area for quite some time and I think it is the type of development we want, The high rise apartment in this tract is being held up waiting for the approval of the R-4 zoning and Amendment 59 and still there was hesitation about passing this R-4 and Amendment 59 so the man would get his apartments going, I have no listing or anything else on that property, Any real estate man can go in there and sell, I have been given no favors by Mr, Brutoco but I think it is a development we.would'like to have and I think we'are hindering this and I would like to see it move, This development can't move unless he has Azusa Avenue cut through. I think we ought to do something on it, • Councilman Jett: Along that same line, Mr,, Aiassa and I were in a meeting Friday With a representative of Home Savings and Loan and he brought up the question of Azusa Avenue and whether or not we could see that this was speeded up, I would say that if Councilman Heath can expedite this in any way, let's give him authority to help us out,, City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: We presented a formal letter to the County Road Department,, They are preparing the legal descriptions of the entire property which will probably require some title search, (Gave brief summary of the matter,,) -2- C, Co 7/29/63 AZUSA AVENUE - Continued Page Three •We are asking the County to spend a lot of money because this is a large job, You can't tie up property until you have a lease with a legal description, Councilman Snyder: I have no objection if you think it will do any good to your meeting with Mr, Bonelli, I think the City,Manager should go along so we don't have a cross purpose here, so he knows where we stand, I think Azusa Avenue is the key to 158, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: The County has committed themselves for quite a bit of money up to Valley Boulevard and Mr. Templin has made overtures time and time again and said that funds are going to be limited, The only.ace in the hole we have is this new Senate Bill 344 and it might be a perfect opportunity to utilize this type of appropriation, Councilman Towner: What is the next step? Suppose the County does expedite this title search and gives us the legal descriptions? Then where do we go? City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Then property would be turned over to one or two members of the •Council who have made contact with some of these people, and see if they would be willing to give us the right of way, Councilman Towner: I think what we want to happen is happening so far as the City can do it and it is up to the County to move, Possibly a meeting between the Mayor and Mr, Bonelli would expedite this some way and I would be willing to see that happen, Mayor Barnes: I would like to have Home Savings and Loan and Mr, Heath in on this, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that a meeting with Mayor Barnes and Councilman Heath, along with Mr. Aiassa be authorized to contact Mr, Bonelli's office and arrange a meeting as outlined here which would include a representative from Home Savings and Loan to discuss the extension and timing of Azusa Avenue, RECREATION AND PARKS COMMISSION Mayor Barnes: I would like to reappoint Clyde Busching and Frank Whitcher to the Parks and Recreation Commission, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Jetty, and carried, that Clyde Busching and Frank Whitcher be reappointed to the Parks and Recreation Commission, -3- C, Co 7/29/63 CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued SPECIAL MEETING Mayor Barneso Page Four I would like to call a meeting for tomorrow night at eight o'clock, Can everyone be there? If everyone is in agreement, I will appoint Mr McCann for the Planning Commission. Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that the reappointment of Mr. McCann to the Planning Commission be approved, Councilman Towner. - Councilman Heath: Councilman Snyder: Councilman Jett: RESOLUTION NO, 2709 ADOPTED I can be there tomorrow night, Yes. Yes. I'll be there, The City Manager presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA PROVIDING FOR A PURCHASE OF REAL ESTATE FOR. MUNICIPAL PURPOSES FOR THE EXECUTION OF A NECESSARY AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION THEREWITH AND ACCEPTING A GRANT DEED COVERING SAID REAL PROPERTY" (Bowker) City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: (Read said resolution in full,) Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said resolution be adopted, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes. Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes. None Absent: None Said resolution was given No. 2709. City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I need authorization for the City of West Covina to transfer to Mr. Bowker the Hanifan property as part of the, transaction of sale and that the Mayor and Deputy City Clerk be authorized to enter into a promissory note for the balance still due, I need a motion for the Hanifan property to go into escrow and I can do the paper work, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that the City Manager and the Deputy City Clerk be authorized to open an escrow for the transfer and purchase of the City property to Frank H, Bowker as a condition of the sale, -4- C, Co 7/29/63 RESOLUTION NO, 2709 - Continued Page Five • City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: We have an unsecured promissory note that will be given to Mr, Bowker and the City Attorney is preparing this. • Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that the Mayor and the Deputy City Clerk be authorized to sign this promissory note; that the balance minus the curb and gutter and the six months of free interest,, RESOLUTION NO, 2710 ADOPTED Mayor Barnes: The City Manager presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA PROVIDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL ESTATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES FOR THE EXECUTION OF NECESSARY AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION THEREWITH AND ACCEPTING A GRANT DEED COVERING SAID REAL PROPERTY" (Jackson) Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution,, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said resolution be adopted,, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said resolution was given No, 2710, RESOLUTION NO, 2711 ADOPTED Mayor Barnes: The City Manager presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA PROVIDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL ESTATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES FOR THE EXECUTION OF NECESSARY AGREEMENT IN CON- NECTTON THEREWITH AND ACCEPTING A GRANT DEED COVERING SAID REAL PROPERTY" (Hinrichs and Turner) Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution, -5- • C,, C 7/29/63 RESOLUTION NO,, 2711 - Continued Page Six Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said resolution be adopted,, Motion passed on _roll callus follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said resolution was given No,, 2711,, RESOLUTION NO,, 2712 ADOPTED Mayor Barnes: The City Manager presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA PRO- VIDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL, ESTATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES FOR THE EXECUTION OF NECESSARY AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION THEREWITH AND ACCEPTING A GRANT DEED COVERING SAID REAL PROPERTY" (West Covina Church of Christ) Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution,, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said resolution was given No,, 2712,, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, for the Mayor and the Deputy City Clerk to sign a promissory note for the sum of $2,625,,00,, City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: There is a water easement on this property (Read report re this matter,,) This is so you know when this comes up later,, This report is directed to me from Mr,, Thomas Dosh, dated July 29, 1963, and I would like this spread in full in the Minutes: "Project 64o4 - Palm View Park Project C-139 - Lark Ellen Ave,, Street Improvements "Attached herewith is a street improvement plan showing the . existing easements of the Covina Irrigating Company across West Covina Church of Christ property at the Southwest corner of Lark Ellen and Puente Avenues,, "The easements are in the future street right of way so that upon dedication of the right of way for public purposes there will be no easements remaining in the park property,, In talking to Ralph Pollard of the Covina Irrigating Company, we find that the waste water line in Lark Ellen is still in use and that in our relocation of Palm trees and street construction 10 t' C,,C, 7/29/63 Page Seven RESOLUTION NO, 2712 - Continued • we must protect, relocate or replace this line, As I mentioned previously, this line is presently in private property to be dedicated for public purposes and therefore, the irrigating company has prior rights, "The documents are attached herewith." Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that prior to contracting for the moving of the palm trees on Lark Ellen Avenue that the staff furnish the Council with the cost or an estimate of the cost of relocating the waste water pipes for the Covina Irrigating District, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that the Deputy City Clerk be authorized instead of the City Clerk to sign documents because Mr, Flotten is on vacation, CITY CLERK'S REPORTS TEMPORARY USE PERMIT APPLICATION OF REV, MARTIN W, COX FOR BILLY GRAHAM PRE - CRUSADE RALLY TO HOLD OUTDOOR UNITED RALLY, SPONSORED BY CHURCHES OF SEVERAL DENOMINATIONS, AT THE EASTLAND PARKING AREA ON SUNDAY, AUGUST 4, 1963, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that we grant permission to the Billy Graham Pre -Crusade Rally to hold an outdoor rally at the Eastland parking area on Sunday, August 4, 19639 subject to the approval of the City Staff committees and that any permit..fees.be waived, Councilman Jett: Approximately how many people will be there? Rev, Martin W, Cox: We are setting up 2,000 chairs with 200 additional for the choir, We do not know if this will accomodate them, We have contacted your Police Department and Fire Department, Action on Councilman Heath's motion: Motion carried, Mayor Barnes: They would like to have a Council representative there to represent the City. I am going to be out of town, . Councilman Jett: I would be happy to represent the City, -7- • Ll 0 C, C, 7/29/63 CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: (Read report letter from matter,,) Page Eight re this matter; read Mr, Larry Sade re this Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh: (Gave brief summary of the matter,,) Councilman Heath: We established a policy when we had the First Federal Savings and Loan before us,, We spent a great deal of time on this, Mayor Barnes: I asked Mr. Sade that, "If we paved the center 48 feet, do you agree to pave and gutter the remaining part of the street, both sides?" and his answer was "Yes", 'This has been our general policy throughout and this is why I asked this question, Councilman Heath: I don't know of any other place outside of the Kandel property where we have had one ownership on both sides of the street, I think the policy we established with First Federal Savings and Loan was the policy we decided on, Councilman Snyder: First Federal didn't own the land across the street, Councilman Jett: Sometime ago I had a conversa- tion with these gentlemen because I had been concerned with the opening up of Cameron Avenue, I went to Mr, Sade and tried to make some kind of concession with him -- "If the Council saw fit to give you zoning on this piece of property and would be a zoning that would be beneficial to you, would you be willing to dedicate and improve Cameron Avenue to the full extent?" and he said he would have to check. A week later he said that he would, I haven't changed my mind a bit. I feel if you develop this piece of property in single family residences you would then have to put in either cul-de-sacs running off of Cameron and you would lose a lot more land or.you would have to put a street down through the center of the property in which you would then put curbs and gutters on both sides of it and pave the entire street and dedicate it, We are zoning this piece of property for you but by doing this we are going to increase this property, I would say, about 125% of its value, How is it going'.to benefit? The property owner is going to benefit,, This is fine, I also like to see the taxpayers get the best deal they can get and I think when this street comes through we are going to be forced to go in and condemn and buy a piece of property across the street; we are going to be forced to put in signalization on this corner at considerable expense; something is going to have to be done on the maintenance of this property on the south side of Cameron; we have problems that are going to be costly and I can't see shy Mr. Sade'would object to doing something that isn't going to cost him any more money than if he got single family residences,, He wouldn't make near the money on single family as on R-2 and R-3B which we have indicated we would give him provided he is willing to work with us, A i i • iJ C. Co 7/29/63 PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION - Continued Page Nine Councilman Towner: We discussed this at the time zoning was granted,, Mr,, Sade got all of the zoning he applied for with the City. The only problem we are faced with now is this consensus of the Council was not included in the motion and apparently the staff now needs something formalized to put it into effect,, Councilman Snyder: There hasn't been any discussion regarding a wall until now,, I think there should be a provision that a wall be put there or fill in the vacant spots,, Councilman Heath.- Are you going to make the developer put in the wall, too? Councilman Snyder-. No. but it is going to be a problem and it has to be taken care of,, Councilman Heath: Why can't we bring it down to five feet on the south side and cement it in? Councilman Jett: I would be willing to participate in something like this,, Councilman Towner: That seems hard to the property owners who back up to this. If you're going to put a major street through there they should have some screening, simple street trees., for instance. such as we put on any other major street,, We have this watering problem all over the City on City trees and certainly I am not in favor of abolishing the City street tree program for this portion,, Mayor Barnes: I wouldn't want to see the trees put in unless we have a pipe put in at the same time to water these trees,, I like the sidewalks idea because it relieves the -City 'of " all the maintenance. Councilman Jett: I wonder if we put a parkway in there without a sidewalk if we are going to have a rubbish problem. I believe if you have a sidewalk you will do away with that,, I like, landscaping if it is taken care of,, If it is allowed to deteriorate like what is existing down here now then I think we have defeated our purpose,, Councilman Snyder: 48 feet but I still think we have or we will be stuck with this same up,, I agree he should do both curbs and gutters and we do the center to resolve this wall problem now thing when the precise plan comes Councilman Heath: I don't see how we can make a man put a wall on that side of the street,, It would either have to be on the people's property and line up with the others or we would have a zig-zag wall going down the street,, sea Co C, 7/29/63 PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION Page Ten Councilman Towner: We have this problem on other portions of the City where the developer cries he can't rent his apartments because across the street it looks like a mess, When you give him an opportunity for City participation he turns you down. I think the only way to get it approved is to do it right now, Councilman Snyder: We did a wall on Cameron in that R-1 development there, They all sided on but he still was required to put the wall up when he built, Councilman Heath: No; that was his choice. We said we didn't want a wall there with landscaping outside, Councilman Snyder: He was certainly aware of this problem when he bought the property, Mayor Barnes: Mr, Sade, would you be willing to put in the wall for the improvement of your own property so you have a nice looking area across the street from your development? Mr, Larry Sade: Mayor Barnes: Councilman Jett: Councilman Heath: (No response,) I think the sidewalks might be our responsibility,, Let's decide the overall program and submit it to him, Is that on other people's property or what? Mr, Larry Sade: Where do you want the wall and what else goes with the wall? I think Mr, Jett had the answer, I would like to know what we have to give and then we can see if we can get this thing going, Councilman Heath: It seems to be the consensus that the City will put in the 48 feet in the center and that the developer put in both curbs and pave up to the 48-foot strip on each side, Councilman Snyder: When he builds he will be required to put a wall along the houses on the north side, Councilman Towner: I think they can put a wall when they have changed a single house zoning to an apartment house zoning and increased their property value, Mr, Larry Sade: Public Services Director, Mr6 Dosh: If you pave 48 feet in the street how much would be left? About six feet on each side plus the curb and gutter, ®10- Co C, 7/29/63 Page Eleven PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION - Continued 0 Mr, Larry Sade: If you would pave the 48 feet of the street it would be very hard for me to attach and join it in, Mayor Barnes: We can take the contract togethero Mr. Larry Sade: Let's make an agreement,, You go ahead and you pave the street in full and I will put the wall in up to a certain point, not where there is vacant land,, Councilman Jett: I might be willing to go along that Mr,, Sade pave one half of the street, the northern half of the street and the City will pave the southern half and that Mr, Sade put in the block wall and the curb and gutter only on his side, Councilman Towner: Mr, Larry Sade: provements on one side and you have go in there and put a wall in,, . Councilman Jett: That puts us worse off than we were before,, I think that is a little offset, I am going to do all the im- the other side and then I have tc units per acre instead of maybe three We are giving you R-3B uses in there that will permit you 25 and a half, Mr, Larry Sade: I don't want to complain,, The only thing I say is I told you what you said I told you. That was a year ago, We were coming in for R-3 zoning at that time, Since that time it has been costing us a lot more money to keep the property and pay the mortgages. When it comes to R-1 zoning on this parcel, we have bought this parcel; we have paid for it, not R-1 price; we have paid for the multiple family price with no contingencies, We have just made up our mind that we are going to wait until we can get the multiple family, We felt this location was right for it. I don't want the City to be penalized on this parcel of land and you have to take from the City Treasury extra money but I know it has been customary you have been getting it some place else, you will get it here, also; how much I don't know, from the County, but I don't think I should be taken because I got R-3B zoning in there, Councilman Heath: All the time, study and reports we made connected with the First' Federal Savings and Loan where we said that this was our policy and we would adhere to it, this is no longer the policy,, Councilman Snyder: This is not exactly the same situation,, Councilman Towner: Move that in connection with Project S-63o6 that the developer be required to curb and gutter and pave half the street and that the City curb and gutter and pave the other half of the street from Cameron Avenue between each property line and that the developer be required to put a five-foot concrete block wall along the south side of the street at the property line on his property and provide street trees, -11- • Ca Co 7/29/63 PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION - Continued Councilman Heath: Councilman Snyder: need screening like trees,, Councilman Heath: Councilman Snyder: Page Twelve Those trees will be a problem to take care of,, These people have shallow lots here,, Look how close they are and they I wouldn't go for trees,, I will second the motion,, Councilman Jett: I think if the trees are done properly they could be nice,, I would like to see the trees but on the other hand the maintenance problem comes up and are trees the only things. we want in there,, Councilman Snyder: The maintenance and upkeep would be up to us; we could decide that later,, Councilman Towner: Mr,, Dosh has pointed out to me "at the property line". I said the improvements of Cameron Avenue to the property line, meaning the property of the Zone R-3 change, which is included in this Zone Change No,, 258 and on the block wall on the south side it would only go in from Lot 55 to Lot 47 on Tract No,, 18875 because down here this is undeveloped,, motion and add the following: south side end at Lot 47,, Councilman Heath: Let me make a change in the That the street improvements on the What is it going to look like if you stop the paving there? Public Services Director, Mr,, Dosh: You can go ahead and pave it but this man should put his own curb, gutter and sidewalks in,, Councilman Heath: Yes, but it may not develop for five years. There are a few things here that I don't think you' re keeping in mind,, Mr,, Sade has just been told he gets zoning upon the dedication and improvement of Cameron Avenue within his R-3 distance,, It still doesn't get you through to Glendora,, Councilman Snyder: 0 Councilman Heath: Mayor Barnes: It said from California on., not within his R-3 zoning,, This doesn't get the street through until he develops the commercial. I think it is much simpler to go the center 48 feet which has been a policy in the past,, -12- 0 C, C, 7/29/63 PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION - Continued Page Thirteen Councilman Jett: Mro Sade, do you intend to build these apartments yourself and the commercial area? Mr, Larry Sade: I have to put the R-3 in first because we are negotiating with leases for the commercial. However, they want to see something substantial backing it up,, Councilman Jett: Are you interested in opening Cameron Avenue all the way through? Mr, Larry Sade: By all means, Councilman Jett: Would it be better to get this opened up all the way and go for the 48 center strip and give him curb, gutters and paving on both sides provided it went through all at one time? Mayor Barnes: All under one contract,, Councilman Towner: I think that is true but the problem we are dealing with is we are limited in scope by the zone change and it was effective only on dedication of the, street,, I don't know how we can extend beyond that,, Mr, Larry Sade: When Mayor Barnes asked me at the last meeting whehter I am willing that the City is going to go through with the 48 feet, I said yes,, I don't think any developer would go and build a substantial project like this unless he has access to the property and winding that up in a deadend street, it is not desirable and nobody.would do that,, We would like to see the 48-foot street go all the way across,, Councilman Jett: It would be curbed and guttered and six feet except for the undeveloped property if we went ahead and got the curb and gutter and paved on both sides and the City paved the center all the way to Glendora with the exception of that area on the south side of the street, this gives us a full street,, Councilman Heath: You don't know when that property is going to develop,, I would rather that the City put in the center 48.feet, have Mr,, Sade put in the curbs and gutters and pave to it on both sides all the -way through and forget about the block wall and you have a full street,, Councilman Snyder: Councilman Jett: suggestion with the addition of the Councilman Snyder: Councilman Towner: Councilman Snyder: We can't,, We have to have the block wall,, I would go along with your block wall,, I would, too,, I withdraw my motion,, I'll withdraw my second,, -13- C, Co 7/29/63 Page Fourteen PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION - Continued Councilman Heath: Move that the City will pave the center 48 feet from Glendora to California and that Mr, Sade be required to put the curbs and gutters on both sides and pave out to this 48-foot strip and that he be required to put in a block wall in the spaces where there are no block walls on the south side of the street with the exception of the last easterly 400 feet➢ to the end of Lot 47, Mr,.Larry Sade: undeveloped property, The man portion that is not developed, other is for precise plan, You right in front of his property. Councilman Snyder: Councilman Jett: Councilman Heath: Those people are willing to - participate with me on that, the is in for zoning on that southerly One parcel is in for zoning and the let him put in the curb and gutter I agree Yes, I will withdraw my previous motion, Move that the City pave the center 48-foot section from Glendora to California and that Mr. Sade be required to put in the curb and gutter and six feet of paving on .the north side from California to Glendora and that Mr, Sade will put in the curb and gutter on the south side from California Avenue to within approximately 400 feet of Glendora, which is the end of. Lot No, 9 and that Mr, Sade be required to install the missing block wall along the.southern lot line, Councilman Snyder: I will second the motion, Councilman Towner: You're dropping out street tree planting along Cameron Avenue, Councilman Snyder: I think he is not cutting this parkway down and I think we can put the trees in, That wouldn't be a big expense, Councilman Towner: It has been customary all through the City to require the developer to put street trees in and provide them and I certainly don't think they should be skipped here, Councilman Heath: Let's make a separate motion moving the street over, Councilman Snyder: I wouldn't go for this because the lots are too shallow, Councilman Heath: Add to my motion that the street be moved south so that the City property to the south of the street be five feet wide, Councilman Snyder: Councilman Jett: I will have to withdraw my second, Some day that could mean a lot, I think we should leave it as it is and put in trees, -14- C, C, 7/29/63 PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION o Continued Mayor Barnes: • • 0 Page Fifteen The motion fails for lack of a second, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, that the City pave the center 48 feet of Cameron Avenue from California Avenue to Glendora Avenue; that the developer be required to curb and gutter ,and -pave -out to the 48-foot strip on both sides of Cameron Avenue With the exception on the south side the curb and gutter and paving is to stop approximately at the east line of Lot No, 9,.Tract No, 18875, and that the developer be required to put in a five-foot cement block wall in those areas that do not have a block wall on the south side of the street; and that the developer be required to put in trees, five - gallon size, as approved by the Parks and Recreation Department, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: so there would be a conforming area, Councilman Towner: Councilman Jett: CITY CLERK'S REPORTS ORDINANCE N0, 810 ADOPTED Make the block wall at least complimentary to what is there now I think he would do that anyway. I would agree, The Deputy City Clerk presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING SECTION41O7 OF THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE CONSUMPTION OF ALCHOLIC BEVERAGES IN PUBLIC PLACES" Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said ordinance be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said ordinance was given No, 810, -15- Co Ca 7/29/63 CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - Continued ORDINANCE NO. 811 ADOPTED Page Sixteen The Deputy City Clerk presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 262 - Wilson and Fuesler) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance,) Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said ordinance be adopted,) Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes, Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes, None Absent: None Said ordinance was given No, 811,) ORDINANCE N0,) 812 The Deputy City Clerk presented: ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA • AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC264 - Ammer) Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, to waive further reading of the.body of the ordinance,) Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said ordinance be adopted,) Motion passed on roll call as follows, Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes, None Absents None Said ordinance was given No. 812, ORDINANCE NO. 813 The Deputy City Clerk presented: ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING 2HE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (ZC 263 - Brutoco) •Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance,) Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said ordinance be adopted,) Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None Said ordinance was given No. 813,) —16— Co C. 7/29/63 CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - Continued TEMPORARY USE PERMIT APPLICATION OF ESGV JAPANESE COMMUNITY CENTER TO CONDUCT LUAU BAZAAR ON OCTOBER 5, 1963. Page Seventeen Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston: (Read from application re this matter.) Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, that permission be granted to the Japanese Community Center to conduct a luau bazaar on October 5, 1963, subject to the staff recommendations and the permit fee be waived, REQUEST OF AMERICAN LEGION AUXILIARY TO HOLD RUMMAGE SALE ON THEIR PREMISES AT 330 NORTH AZUSA AVENUE ON AUGUST 29, 30 AND 31, 1963, Deputy City Clerk, Mrs. Preston: (Read from application re this matter.) Councilman Towner: I am not in favor of having it on a parking lot. If they have it within the building, I would • agree. Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that the request of the American Legion Auxiliary to hold their rummage sale at 330 North Azusa Avenue on August 29, 30 and 31, 1963, be granted subject to staff approval. CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM Councilman Snyder: Regarding this meeting with Mr. Bonelli, he took us to lunch and it cost about $30. Mr. Aiassa picked up the tab. Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, that the tab in the amount of $30 be paid for by the City, reimbursing Mr. Aiassa for expenses in which they were requested to meet with the County Supervisor, Mr,, Bonelli,, Councilman Jett: 0 Mayor Barnes: Councilman Jett.* He doesn't pay it out of his pocket, does he? No. I will withdraw my motion. Councilman Towner.* I will withdraw my second. m�7® L.] • Co Ca 7/29/63 Page Eighteen CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS ® Continued LIBRARY - FIRE STATION City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: This is the lease agreement for the branch library on Puente and it is on a 15myear basis at $550,00 a month, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the lease be approved and placed on file, Councilman Heath: We went by there today and it wa's,all locked up and no engine, Mayor Barnes. When the fire trucks go out, it has an automatic locking device and.it locks the door as they leave. They must have been out to a fire, Councilman Jett° It was about 2:30, I think you should tell them to do a better job of keeping the grease off of the floor where the truck sits, Councilman Snyder,. There should be some sort of notice on the door to people that if it is locked the people would know they are out on call, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa,. VINCENT AVENUE INTERCHANGE REPORT I'll take care of these things, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa,. (Read letter from the Division of Highways re this matter,) (Presented final plans to the Council,) I would like to have Victor Gruen look at these, Councilman Heath,. Councilman Jett,. City Manager, Mr. Aiassa: Councilman Snyder: I think they should see them, To what extent are we holding this up by sending it to Victor Gruen? We will probably hold it up about a week. He has a tentative proposal study on it, I think Victor Gruen should see these, I thought we agreed he should see these, Councilman Jett,. Move that the plans for the interchange of Vincent Avenue be sent to Victor Gruen with the stipulation that they be returned to the City within seven working days, I think what Victor Gruen is going to do is meet with the State in an effort to convince them to cut this down and come in with this service road that he is talking about, Bring them all within the same area that we now have, Whether he can convince the State or not, I don't know, ,_. C,, C,, 7/29/63 Page Nineteen VINCENT AVENUE INTERCHANGE REPORT - Continued Councilman Heath- This is something we are going to have to live with for years and years to comeo Councilman Jett- I will withdraw my motion. Councilman Towner- Certainly we want to expedite this. I agree with the intent of Mr,, Jett's motion and would add only further that Mr. Gruen be advised in a correspondence from the State regarding the need for their prompt return. Motion by Councilman Towner., seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the plans for the Vincent Avenue interchange be sent to Victor Gruen with the stipulation that they be returned to the City within seven working days and that Mr Gruen be advised in a correspondence from the State regarding the need for their prompt return,, ADOPTION 1963-64 BUDGET City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa° The Council has received a .mimeographed report from the Finance Office dated July 26, 1963,, (Gave brief summary of the matter,,) The tentative approval we need tonight is the operating budget which is Page 2 -- $206582425,,00,, Councilman Towner- With respect to these items that are subject to further information from departments, are these included in the current operating budget? City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa- All the items that the Council approved are included,, We will not spend this money until we add up the questions you wanted answered to the specific items but they are being budgeted,, Councilman Towner: I realize this is temporary and is subject to later modification but there is this portion which the other members of the Council are aware that I disagree with. I am willing to vote on a total budget figure but I do not want to include within that the items requested by the other Councilmen for the private secretary and office furnishings and requiring the moving out of our City personnel staff, doubling them up in some other office in a crowded City Hall and providing this space for the Councilmen,, I think possibly someday the Council may need some such facilities but I think under the circumstances presently considering our budget and manner of operation that this is an unnecessary cost in addition to which I have a serious question as to the use or even the need for this over $5,000 a year secretary,, I have other questions such as who selects the secretary; who has right of control, hire and fire over her; who will direct her in the performance of her duties,, I think these questions are going to have to be answered at some time,, Mayor Barnes- This person would have to take an examination exactly like any- one else would for a secretarial position,, It would be open and as -19- • 0 C,, Co 7/29/63 ADOPTION 1963-64 BUDGET - Continued Page Twenty far. as I'm concerned they would be judged on.their merits,, It will go through Personnel,, I would like to sit in on this meeting and it would go through our Personnel Officer just as anybody else would,, As far as the firing, the jurisdiction, I think she is hired for the Council,, Councilman Jett-, And it would be three -to -two just like any other,, Councilman Snyder,. It would make it hard for her to decide who she is responsible for, i�dhen there are differences of opinion, who does she take her policy from? Councilman Towner-, The problem here is we don't have such a position within our City Personnel,, There are no specifications drawn for the job and nothing set up in our City Ordinance that provides for a secretary answerable only to the City Council,, Mayor Barnes-, This is a very workable condition and if somebody doesn't want it to works, it won't work. Covina has such an office without a secretary, but they are only 23,000.population, We are sitting here with 60,000 popula- tion. It is.about time we grew upo Councilman Snyder, This is not necessarily a standard of growing up but could be a standard of immaturity because I think we are -- actually it is the function of the City Clerk to serve what you want,, Councilman Towner-, I think what it amounts to is just a status symbol,, There are problems here, serious problems,, Councilman Jett-, I had fully intended to be at the dedication of the Fire Station, Nobody called me and I forgot it, If we had someone, a secretary assigned to the Council to see all Councilmen made their appointments on time I could certainly use somebody who could help me out,, Councilman Towner.-, I agree with that. I think there is room for somebody to remind Councilmen of their obligations particularly when they are numerous but I don't think you need a $5.,000 a year secretary to do it,, I. am bringing; up the problem of hiring and controlling and firing this particular person,, You take her out of the formal Civil Service category and set her up in a special category and I don't think you have given consideration to the expense or the problems involved,, One of the problems was this question of writing private letters on City stationery,, It was stated by Mr. Heath that when he wanted to write on City stationery that he could consider it private and other Councilmen are not entitled to receive a copy of it,, I disagree with this, I think public business is public business,, This is something I think the public should be aware of,, If you hire a secretary and Mr. Heath.is going to use her for writing; private letters which none of the other Councilmen are entitled to be advised of,, Councilman Heath said he wanted to type letters on City stationery as a City Councilman and using the City staff and -20- C,, Ca 7/29/63 ADOPTION 1963-64 BUDGET m Continued Page Twenty -One they were to be his private letters and no other Councilmen were entitled to receive a copy of this,, Councilman Heath: This is not private business,, Councilman Towner: How do we know this is not private business? You're on the annexation committee. There are certain situations that can be involved here that may become more private business than public business. This is the kind of thing we are entitled to know about,, Councilman Heath: If it does not concern or obligate you or the Council or does not obligate the City, you have no right to it, Mr,, Towner,, Councilman Snyder-, Then you have no right to use City stationery,, Councilman Towner-, If it is public business, it is public business,, Mi,,, Heath,, This is one of the problems,, Here we have a very distinct disagree- ment,, If you hire this person and % tell her that I want a copy of any letter that goes out of that office and Mr,, Heath tells her "Don't give anybody copies of my letters", who is she going to answer to? • Councilman Heath-, Councilman Towner. - Councilman Jett. - Councilman Snyder-, Councilman Jett-, She had better not do it or I would ask for her resignation immediately,, That is exactly what I mean,, You're placing her in a very tenable position,, I checked with the City Attorney on this,, I would like to hear it,, Perhaps he had better tell you this,, Councilman Heath: Move to adopt the tentative budget for 1963-64 as outlined in the memorandum from the Director of Finance dated July 26, 19630 Councilman Snyder: I would like to make this comment about the budget: Obviously the increasing demands of the Fire and Police take a bigger bite out of the budget which makes it probably impossible to apply more to the Parks and Recreation, including equipment on our parks and purchase of more land and also as far as having to cut to the bone on recreation leaders, but also I think certainly $6,000 spent on a secretary of doubtful need and a Council office of doubtful need will certainly cut into what we could spend in acquiring park sites and for that reason and Mr,, Towner°s reasons, I am against this particular portion of the budget,, Also, I feel we should have given more to the Chamber of Commerce,, In regards to the letters, I have no doubt as to the legality of it,, I would still like an opinion of Mr. Williams on it,, However, I say it is unethical because if a letter is written on City stationery, our letterhead, any statement you make in there —21— • 0 Co C, 7/29/63 ADOPTION 1963-64 BUDGET ® Continued Page Twenty -Two is assumed to be a policy of the Council even though you state to the contrary and when you write a letter such as that you are,, in effect., binding me to anything you say. Councilman Jett: I will not second the motion because I am against some of these expenditures, Mayor Barnes: I'll take the prerogative as Mayor and second the motion of Councilman Heath, Mr, Aiassa has to have a working capital to run City Hall and I don't think we can sit here and say we don't adopt the budget, This is a tentative budget, Any discussion you want to have on any portion of the budget can be taken up between now and August 27 when we adopt the final budget, Councilman Towner: I recognize we need a budget to work from, Mr. Aiassa., we have a summary expenditure budget, These are appropriations authorized by the City Council and they are in total sum, If we adopt this so-called current operating budget or summary expenditure budget, does it approve all of the line items that are contained in the budget that we discussed in our study sessions? City Manager., Mr, Aiassa: Councilman Jett: state those items that I am against: I think we are spending money in the waste of funds, We pay a draftsman a year more than we pay a draftsman This is what you approved in your study sessions, I'll have to vote for the budget but now I do want to specifically 708,, the Planning Department, Planning Department that is a in there approximately $3,000 in the Engineering Department, Parks and Recreation Program as I stated during the budget hearings,, I am absolutely opposed to spending the amount of money that we are spending for directors and leaders, I think this is another $88,000 and an expenditure that is thrown away, I want the record to show that I was called by a party and told that some members of the staff have been spreading around that I am absolutely opposed to the recreational program, I said., "This is true; I am opposed to the expenditure of money for the leaders," After I explained my reasons, they said they were behind me 100%. I think this should be stopped, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Councilman Jett: specifically because he wouldn't name the Park and Recreation Directors, Do you know which staff member did this? Someone from the Recreation Department, I can't say him, He just said one of Councilman Snyder: I feel although this is a small item, that we have rebudgeted an exclusive contract with an engineer which requires that he do certain engineering work for the City without any competitive possibility of other engineering firms in the City doing this, I am against this. I have this further reservation about the budget, -22® s • C,, Co 7/29/63 Page Twenty -Three ADOPTION 1963-64 BUDGET ® Continued Mayor Barnes, I feel that if West Covina wants to be or intends to be a headquarter City then we have to do something to develop the City as a headquarter City,, We have to keep in time with the rest of our cities as far as our own personnel is concerned, even our own office,, I think we should approve this budget tonight,, Councilman Towner, I think this is, as all budgets are, a compromise,, I have stated my disagreement as to the additional expenditure for the City Council,, Councilman Jett: Action on Councilman Heath's motion; follows: I call for the motion,, Motion passed on roll call as Ayes, Councilmen Towner, Jett., Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes, None Absent: None PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa, Councilman Snyder, City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa, Councilman Jett, Councilman Snyder, City Manager., Mr,, Aiassa, I need an action from the Council about the new alignment,, I think we should have studies right away on cost and engineering. We need to know how much the property is valued at and we should have it appraised. I think you had better go for an appraisal on it right away while this is still residential property,, We don't have any indication right now that it is going to be anything but Rml. I would like to have this appraisal by Harris and Baker,, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that the City Manager be directed to proceed with preliminary steps toward acquisition of the east side of Glendora and Cameron inter- section and obtain an appraisal from Harris and Baker,, City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa, I'll get on that tomorrow,, Councilman Snyder, Should we also authorize the staff to start preliminary studies? City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa, I would like authorization from the Council to immediately authorize the development of final plans and specifications for the -23- C, C, 7/29/63 Page Twenty -Four PROPOSED CAMERON AVENUE EXTENSION ® Continued 48 feet extension of Cameron Avenue from California Avenue to Glendora Avenue, I have no rights to have Mr, Sade doing any planning on this street of the 48 feet, If he decides not to do this for a few months, you are going to have to wait for him, Councilman Jett'. We are going to have to have it staked and everything, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to authorize the City staff to proceed with final plans and specifications on the center 48 feet of Cameron Avenue from California Avenue to Glendora Avenue, PICKERING TRACT HYDRANT RENTAL City Manager, Mr, Aiassa'. I talked to the County and we can amend the general contract and make this hydrant rental to tie in with the general contract you have with the County for fire protection, Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried, to direct the City Attorney to draw this contract for amending the • main contract with the Los Angeles County Fire Department for the protection of the Pickering Tract which includes hydrant rental, SIDEWALKS GENERAL City Manager, Mr, Aiassa'. We are getting more requests for sidewalks, (Read memo to the City Manager from Mr. Pontow re this matter,) Mayor Barnes-, y; 'had a from Mr. Drooks about sidewalks in the area f Francisquitoo I answered the letter and turned it over to the Engineering department ..for their consideration. Councilman Snyder'. I think our policy was to serve school areas first and I don°t think we should consider priority to serve La Puente Shopping Center, It is our City but the stores are in La Puente, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to direct the staff to notify these people of this action, that we have a priority list and this is not one of the top priorities, • VICTOR GRUEN REPORT AND APPROVAL OF PAYMENT City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: I have a letter from Victor Gruen, You have received copies of this letter dated July 25, 1963, (Read said letter,) -24- Co C, 7/29/63 Page Twenty -Five VICTOR GRUEN REPORT AND APPROVAL OF PAYMENT Continued Councilman Heath: We had a meeting with .representa- tives from Victor Gruen and IBll concede the fact that the man has done,a tremendous amount of work, I do not think, however, we are seeing any results yet because if you study the maps that he gave us he had not done any more than mark out the present streets, has not added a street or made any recommendations, All I could gather from his report was the fact that there were certain streets which could be used to come from certain sections of the area to the downtown shopping, It didn't recommend which one or recommend. additional streets or any advancement or improvement over what we -have right now, He told us we had a problem which, of course, we knew. Up to this date I don't think he has given us anything although he has done a considerable amount of work, Depending on how much payment has been made, I would want to see some results before I,would approve any further payment, I do not feel the man has offered anything yet except to outline the present roads, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: You have given him $7,500 of the $19�000, Councilman Heath: I would go for one more payment before I would go another payment from my way of looking at it I would want to see some kind of results, Councilman Snyder: In his report at this time this • was a preliminary report and he didn't pretend to have any results yet, He stated he had been checking data and stated he had checked enough to know the magnitude of our problem and where the problem lies and he did indicate he felt there was some hope of solution which I think was more than any of us hoped for in the beginning, Councilman Towner: I think he further made some recom- mendations which the Council approved in policy so he could continue with further studies and this was that there be a continuous circular route provided around the central business district and he also proposed as to the north side of the freeway continuation of the route there so he has made preliminary policy -type proposals. I think the man has made excellent progress and is doing a very fine job for us, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder,, to make the progress payment at this time in accordance with the contract, the payment to be in the amount of $2,500,00, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath., Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent: None •Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, to grant a 30-day extension on the Victor Gruen contract, Mayor Barnes: I think either the staff or we should sit down and study those areas to the east that were suggested and if we do intend to make such a survey I think there should be some motion made to this effect, —�5— Co Co 7/29/63 Page Twenty -Six VICTOR GRUEN REPORT AND APPROVAL OF PAYMENT Continued 0 Councilman Heath., Wait to see how this report comes out first, We don't have too much longer to,wait, .Councilman Towner., I think the east end is beginning to develop and we should avoid the problems we have in the so-called central business district before they happen, I think we should get started on those studies on the east end, Mayor Barnes., City Manager, Mr, Aiassa., When will they have the study back to us? About three weeks, Councilman Heath: I think we need another study of the east end of town but I want to see what kind of a trial run he is going to make on this one first, Councilman Towner., I think it is serious enough to get the study off the ground, If you turn out to be dissatisfied with Victor Gruen you can give the contract to somebody else, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, • to authorize the staff to make preliminary studies of areas of traffic circulation, problems and potential problems at the eastern end of the City near the freeway, WALNUT CREEK PARKWAY LANDSCAPING ,City Manager, Mr, Aiassa., They are putting the fence closer to the curb. They have two areas of influence, One is to protect anyone going near the Wash and the second is the roadway, Councilman Jett., This would defeat the whole purpose of that thing, There is no chance for us to get with the Flood Control and get cooperation there? City Manager, Mr. Aiassa., TRAFFIC COMMITTEE MINUTES CALIFORNIA AVENUE SPEED ZONE • Councilman Heath: City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: We'll hold this off and see what we can do, On Item 7 it says something about California -Avenue to 35 be deleted from the Code. It is 35 now? It is 35 now but it is 25 by signs, They want to keep it 25, Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh: (Gave brief summary of the matter,) -26® C, C, 7/29/63 Page Twenty -Seven TRAFFIC COMMITTEE MINUTES (CALIFORNIA AVENUE SPEED ZONE) - Continued 6 Councilman Heath,, I don't know of any street where anybody does 25 miles an hour and I think it is nothing more than a speed trap, I don't think a 25-mile- an-hour speed is justified any more,, Public Services Director, Mr,, Dosh,, 35 miles is totally unrealistic, Councilman Jett; I think leave it at 35, If you can hold them down to 25, I would be for it but I don't think it is realistic to say 25 and everybody drives 35, Councilman Towner; Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh,, Councilman Towner,, What times were your speed studies made? Probably an 8-hour study on an average day, Are the kids required to cross California to get to this school? Public Services Director, Mr, Dosh- On the Wescove School and on the California School they are required • Councilman Jett; When it goes to the school it is automatically 15 miles per hour, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa,, Yes but you don't have to post it, It might be advisable if we make it from Merced down to downtown,, Mayor Barnes; This is what I wanted to prevent, I hate to see a street with a speed of 35 miles per hour for a distance and then all of a sudden change to 25 miles per hour o Councilman Towner; You have a stop sign at Merced and it picks up with a different speed limit, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, to change the signs on California Avenue to 35 miles an hour, (Councilmen Towner and Snyder voted "No",) Councilman Heath- There is nothing more appalling than stop signs, If we don't need a four-way stop sign is there something we can do to eliminate this? At Service and Valinda they are installing a four-way stop, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa; rCouncilman Snyder; It is already there, I think it is very important, Councilman Jett; I dog too,, Councilman Snyder; A lot of people coming home take the Lark Ellen turnoff and come back.to Service to get to Valinda or Glendora, -27- Co Co 7/29/63 CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued • TEMPORARY FIRE STATION PICKERING TRACT' Councilman Snyders City Manager, Mr, Aiassa: Mayor Barnes-, Councilman Heath-, Page Twenty -Eight You have a report that it is possible to extend the County contract by six months,, You have the report from the staff, I need to take some sort of action with Mr, Pickering, I think we should buy the site becaue� we are going to get our money back. I think we should get it while it is there. Councilman Snyder-, The Fire Chief states that in six months it would give him time to decide where a permanent one would goo City Manager, Mr. Aiassa-, Let's hold this until the 5th and you give me a directive to move. You have the reports. The Chief and I checked this thing around and I would rather see a better station in 158 but, not knowing when it will come off, this is a very good way of putting this stop -dap, The only question is whether the City wants to put the money in this, You can get the money out of the house but you won't get it off your total, Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett that the City Manager be authorized to enter negotiations with Mr. Pickering for the purpose of the house Neptune "J" for temporary fire headquarters at the location of Center Street and Level Glenn Drive, Councilman Towner-, Apparently we can get it from the County for $149000 and if we put in our own station our cost would be, deleting the house, close to $400000 a year, City Managers Mr, Aiassa-, Your cost is going to be the payroll, Councilman Towner: We could run roughly three years on an additional County contract for the same thing it would cost us for one year to put our own men down there, They would furnish us not only the men but the equipment, Councilman Snyder-, I think it. has been pointed out we could save for one year and get a permanent station within a year and that is not so far away, Councilman Towner, You would save enough money to buy your station, Councilman Snyder-, It would cost us $43,000 more to put a temporary station in when we could use County aid for one more year, 9 ; C, Co 7/29/63 Page Twenty -Nine TEMPORARY FIRE STATION (PICKERING TRACT) Continued • Mayor Barnes,, Councilman Heath: Councilman Jett,, C� May I remind you of a temporary fire station that has been in service for five years,, It would take us three years to put it in,, I will withdraw my second,,' Councilman Towner,, Move to continue with the County Fire protection contract for the Pickering Tract area for the balance of this year and for the year 1964, Councilman Heath. - City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa,, Councilman Jett: City Manager, Mro Aiassa,, Mayor Barnes,, I think you had better read the report, Why don't we hold this over? How about getting us a better report on this? It is so vague now to see whether or not those houses are going to be built, We will hold this to the 5tho Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that the matter of the temporary fire station in the Pickering Tract he beld to August 5s 1963. MARSHALL PROPERTY City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa,, I have an opportunity to close the Marshall property. Mr. Marshall dropped in to see me tonight, The original offer was $44,500,, He wanted the additional 10% that is usually given in lieu of condemnation,, That would make it $48,950 and he compromised at $48,000 and this is what we budgeted. If you want this authorize me to open escrow. Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, to authorize the City Manager to open escrow for $48,000 plus the letter which the Council has a copy of, of some of the salvage stuff he wants,, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes,, Councilmen Towner, Jett, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes Noes: None Absent,, None WATER PROBLEM Mayor Barnes: I have a letter from the Department of Water Resources re our request to enter into a contract with the State for water from James Doody,, (Read letter in full). —29— • 0 Co Ca 7/29/63 COUNCILMANIC REPORTS PACIFIC AVENUE Page Thirty Councilman Heath,. I would like to call the staff's attention to the trough or gutter over at Pacific Avenue where Cameron Avenue comes up from under the freeway and meets Pacific Avenue,, They are putting in a gutter across the street which is about 30 inches wide and smooth with very little dip to it,, This is going to collect rain water- it is going to get splashed up on the concrete and we will have a problem like we had on Azusa and Cameron and we have now on Vincent and Workman, This is a cross gutter,, I think it would pay us in the long,run to take it out or put something else in there,, We are going to have to replace that blacktop right and left,, Public Services Director, Mr,, Dosh,. Councilman Heath., PALM TREE TRUNK er The only contributing area we have is the nine acres,, It drains westerly therefrom. I think the staff should take a look at it,, Councilman Heath,. There has been a trunk of a palm tree laying in my street for five weeks,, The Police have been there twice pushing it out of the road. The sweeper goes around it every week and leaves it there,, It has been in the middle of the road twice,, Public Services Director, Mr,, Dosh,. I'll take care of it,, GARVEY AVENUE NORTH OF THE FREEWAY Councilman Heath,. I would like to propose to the Council that they put on the agenda the consideration of renaming Garvey Avenue north of the freeway,, Having an office on that side I can tell you that it is very"very confusing to 99% of the people who come into the City,, The odd numbers are on one side of the freeway and the even numbers are on the other side,, I suggest the Council put this on their agenda,, Councilman Snyder,. I think it would be confusing something else but I think "Garvey Avenue North" or something might work,, Mayor Barnes,. We will put that on the agenda,, -30- C, C. 7/29/63 COUNCILMANIC REPORTS ® Continued • COUNTY LIBRARY PLAQUE Councilman Heath: We were told by the City Manager that the plaque for the County Library was being held up waiting approval and Saturday Mr, Geller said he approved it a long time ago, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa.- Page Thirty -One Councilman Heath. - City Manager, Mr, Aiassaa CITY SCHOOL PROGRAM We have told the contractor three times to put it up and he hasn't put it up. We didn't approve it, Yes you did, Councilman Heath: I have been contacted by two representatives of the School System and they started to complain as to why the City was dropping the City program, I put the monkey back on them, I think there should be some joint meeting between the present School Board and the City officials to thrash out about this summer program so that everybody • is of the same opinion, City Manager, Mr, Aiassa.- I think it might be advisable if we get a Council representation because this is strictly policy, Councilman Heath.- The present School Board feels that the City has chopped this off, They don't know the true story in back of it, Are we going to drop the program? City Manager, Mr, Aiassa.- They are going to give you one dollar and they want you to support the same program they have been giving you twenty some odd thousand for, Mayor Barnes. - City Manager, Mr, Aiassa.- CHRISTIAN CHURCH ATTENDANCE Maybe we can set up a meeting and talk to the School Board, All right, Mayor Barnes.- Does anyone wish to attend the Christian Church at California and Francisquito to a welcome reception for Roy Bullock who is their new minister ai't present, at 7015 on Thursday, August lst? Mr, Aiassa, would you get someone from the City to go?(-.. City Manager, Mr, Aiassa.- All right, -31- �Q) • • C Co 7/29/63 COUNCILMANIC REPORTS - Continued LOS ANGELES COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT NO. 22 MEETING Page Thirty -Two Councilman Heath: We are going to have a meeting in our City Hall on August 14th at 7-30 which will be an adjourned meeting of the Los Angeles County Sanitation District No,, 22 to discuss when is a trunk line not a trunk line and when does the County pay for the trunk and when do the residents take up the assessment and pay for the trunk,, We want to establish a policy,, Councilman Jett, Mayor Barnes: Councilman Heath: See that we are all notified,, please,, This is a district meeting,, We need information from the staff which will enable us to set policy,, There being no further business, Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett,, and carried,, that this meeting be adjourned at 12:20 AoM,, and be adjourned to August 5,, 1963, at eight o'clock,, ATTEST: CITY CLERK APPROVED MAYOR —32—