02-25-1963 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA9 CALIFORNIA
FEBRUARY 25, 1963
The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor Barnes .
at,7:45 P-M, iM the -.West Covina City Hallo The Pledge of Allegiance was
led by COuneiltdan Heath, The invocation was -given by Rev, Lauren Egdahl
of..Mount :,CA
lvary Lutheran Church,
:ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Barnes., Councilmen Jett.. Towner, Heath,
Snyder (from 7:55 P-MO)
Others Present: Mr. George Aiassa,, City Manager
Mr, Robert Flotten,, City'Clerk
Mt. Harry Co Williams., City Attorney
Mro:Thomas Dosh9 Public Services Director
Mrs, Fern Sayers Merry,, City Treasurer (to 12:05 A.M.)
Mr. Harold Joseph,,, Planning Director
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 21,D 7 Approved .as .,submitted 'follows—.
Motion''by :tauncllman J6tt.,9 -seconded `by rCouncilman Town;e:r, and carried., that
t ae 'Minutes of January 2119639 be apprweed as submitted.
January 28, 1963 Approved as corrected as follows:
Councilman Heath: On Page 29,,.we have Resolution ,2542
concerning the revision of salaries
for the City employees and the Minutes read that Mr. Williams ftt "the
resolution in full and that I made a comment but it shows no vote or any
action taken,.
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten:
It is on the resolution,
Councilman Heath: All right, That would suffice,
Mayor Barnes: I:have a correction on Page.21, in the
middle of the page in my statement
eabout wanting some type of buffering between the R®l and the residential
1property.: It should be "G®1" not 11Rm1"o
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried, that
the Minutes of January 28, 1963 be approved as corrected,
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
PRECISE PLAN'NO0 139 REVISION 4 LOCATION: West of and behind Von's
AUTHORIZE RELEASE OF BOND Market,
Hunter, Broadwell &.Bowker
APPROVED Release United Pacific Insurance
Company bond Noo B-31081 in the
amount of $9,435,,00,, This bond no
longer needed since change in
approved Precise Plano
Maps were presented and Mro Flotten read two memos., dated February 15 and
February 23, 1963 from Mr. Joseph regarding this matter.
(Councilman Snyder entered the chambers at 7a55 PoMo)
Councilman Heath: This is to release the bond on tra
Hunter., Broadwell and Bowker
property,, Where do we take action on Vons bond?
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph.- The bond that was posted back in
1958 was posted by Von'so. Even
• though the precise plan was for all of these people., Von's themselves were
the only people that posted the bond for the whole.streeto Now we are
suggesting that this bond can be releasedo. In its place, it is proposed
that for only that portion of the property behind Von's Market a bond for
a wall be supplemented for this street bondo When the other properties
develop, they will come in with additional plans for their precise plans
and at that time we can get additional bonds for the wall, Von's would
not.be,required to put in a wall for the.whole length of the property
because undoubtedly for a good portion of the property carports will back
up to the property,,
Councilman Heath: On this precise plan it says autho-
rize the release of the bond on
Hunter, Broadwell and.Bowker.,, I understand they didn't put up any bond,
but Von's did,, Shouldn't this be to authorize the release of the Von's
bond?
Planning Director.. Mr. Joseph, Technically, yeso They are the ones
we made the contract witho
Councilman Jett: Mr,, Williams, in those cases where
we require that a block wall be put
up for approval of the precise plan and there is damage from flood
conditions as a result of that wall where we have made it mandatory as a
requirement, can the City be held responsible or liable for damages?
City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: That's a difficult question to
answer today. Ordinarily a City
has not been held liable until up to recently for anything it does in 'a
governmental capacity,, In the Muskoff vs,, Corning Hospital case the
Supreme Court did impose liability for government function. The Legislature
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has suspended that liability, It is expected that at this session the
Legislature will act on a statue defining more accurately governmental
...liability,, I think the prior law will remain where the city will not be
liable.for what it does in a governmental function.
Councilman Jett: On Workman and Azusa there was a
requirement of the City that a
block wall be put around this service station in the business district.
.Last year during the flood time there was.32 inches of water built up
inside.back of this wall as a result of this fenceo It was _just about
.ready..to come into the stores when they put a hole in the fence to relieve
.....the.situation. What is the purpose of this.block wall at Von's and do
we know whether it is going to create any flood conditions or has anybody
attempted to find out?
City Manager, Mr,, Aiassa: We aren't constructing a wall. We
are just putting up a bond that
.will -serve the purpose, You will have money to request.the owner to pu'.;
the -wall in in.the future,, I think you have two problems that you're
trying.to get answers to,, One, we have modified the precise plan to the
reverse of what it used to be and I think the Planning Commission made a
request.that if the street didn't go in that some type of a wall should
•be there for protection to the opposite property owners. Since that time
Mr,, Bowker came in and constructed an apartment house and built his garages
along this property and this alleviated any need for a wall. If the same
development continues then we will refund the man his entire bond,,
Councilman Jett: What steps are we taking to protect
the developer? We don't want to
create a flood condition on his property by attempting to protect someone
else,,
Councilman Towner-, It is my understanding that normally
on precise plans or in conditions of
development we require the developer to provide drainage facilities
satisfactory to the City Engineer,, The responsibility is that of the
developer or property owner to drain his own property. I think possibly
it would be our engineer's duty to see to it that such a block wall did
not Interfere with these drainage plans and that there was proper drainage.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to authorize the release of United Pacific Insurance Company bond No.
B-31081 in the amount of $9,435,00,,
Planning Director, Mr,, Joseph: We would like you to release the
bond for the street and we would
like a bond for the wall,,
• City Attorney, Mr,, Williams: The only way we can get the bond
for the wall is to make the release
of the other one conditioned on the new one.
Motion by�Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that an amendment be made to the prior motion that the release of the bond
be conditioned upon posting of a new bond for the construction of a
six-foot wall along the westerly property line where needed,,
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SCHEDULED MATTERS
Mayor Barnes:
'BIDS
PROJECT 0-188
.. STREET.IMPROVEMENTS
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It now being the.hour of eight
o'clock, it is time for the scheduled
matters,
LOCATION: Valinda Avenue from Service
Avenue to Glendora Avenue,
Bids opened.in office of City Clerk
.The..bids.received are as follows:
on February 21,
1963 at 10:00 A,M,
Corre<;tion
SULLY -MILLER CONTRACTING CO,
10%
bid
bond
$ 6,765.00 $69745'5.
A-1 CONCRETE
10%
bid
bond
7,004,40
• GLENN WM, FINTEL
10%
bid
bond
79587.00
W, R. WILKINSON CO.
10%
bid
bond
7,696.90
WARREN SOUTHWEST
10%
bid
bond
.7,921.96
AMAN BROS.
10%
bid
bond
8,317,90
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Motion by Councilman heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, to award the
contract for Project C-188, street improvements, to the Sully -Miller
Contracting Company on the basis of their low bid of $6,745.00 and that
the bid bonds be returned to the unsuccessful bidders, Motion passed ,on
roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, 71
HOME SAVINGS & LOAN ASSOC,
APPROVED
Voice:
LOCATION: Easterly of Pass and
Covina between Valley
Boulevard and Francisquito
Avenue,
Request to permit dump site areas
fo"r refuse disposal, related uses
and land reclamation uses.
Is there any objection to this
section of the meeting being taped?
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'UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT N0, 71 - Continued
Mayor Barnes: Do any of the Councilmen have any
objection?
Voice:
(No objection was voiced,)
Is there anyone in the..audience
having an objection to this
testimony being taped?
(No objection was voiced.)
This is the San Jose Association tape,
This will be made available to you
if you so desire.
Mayor Sarnes: This is the time and place..for the
public hearing on Unclassified Use
Permit No. 710
IN FAVOR
Mr, Graham Ritchie I am the attorney ,for the applicant,
1015 Wilshire Boulevard Home�Savings and Loan.
• Los Angeles
Mayor Barnes: Before you begin, sir, I hope that
we don't go through all,,of the
testimony that was heard at the last meeting,, I would like to'ask that
anything that is heard is related to --the additional testimony and possibly
if it has 4a connection, bring this in; but I think most of the testimony
is probably recorded,
Mr, Graham Ritchie: I think most of it is. I will confine
my remarks to the proposed changes
that Home Savings has made in the application for which we requested the
opportunity to have an additional public hearing before the Councilo
Before I do that perhaps for the
convenience of the Council, we have a photograph of the property which
roughly matches this relief map and I would introduce this at this time
and you can use it for reference if you wish,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams: I think it would be wise to mark it
for identification,
Mayor Barnes: We will mark the photograph Exhibit I.
Mro Graham Ritchie: We wili put a "II" on the relief map
and offer the relief map as
applicant's Exhib'i'i II, This is probably the.best place for it for what
little use I wild. make of it. To orient the Council, the applicant has
prepared a relief map on a scale of one inch to 400 feet in both directions.
There were suggestions -made that the graphs and charts were offered to you
and were not complete because they were not to scale in both directions, This
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is.the Home Savings property involved in this application outlined in yellow,
up.here.is land fill B and land fill D and down here is the memorial park
which.is..part of another application you will hear later., After hearing
the.testimony of.the people who opposed this project and after hearing
-...remarks from the Council, we amended our proposal in an attempt to solve
some..of the problems which had been pointed out which you mentioned in
.......making the original evaluation of our application and one of the first .
things we,did was to reduce the area of the larger of the two land fill
sites from 98 acres -to 71,,4 acres in size, The purpose was to remove the
boundar.y.that much farther away from thee.northern.crest of the mountains
and.from.the'-property owners whose homes are in this area, none of which are
closer than.3/5:;,of a mile to the property line and none of which -are
closer.than 3/4 of a mile to either of the proposed land fill operation-s.
We indicated to you that at no
time.during the land fill operation would we remove any portion of the
peak.areas,. You can take a straight edge angle, place it at any point on
this relief area and there is no place at which you can see any portion of
..the -operation of either of these land fills.
The larger of the two is 550 feet in
depth; the smaller is approximately 350 feet in depth. They are concealed
by high ridges which obliterate any view which anyone might have of these
operations, They will remain until the operations are fully completed,.
Also, the applicant agreed with the Council that it would operate the
smaller of the two sites first and would completely.fill that site before
it attempted to commence operations on the larger of ,the two sites.
At the time we made our original..
proposal we were dealing with the property'as we found it and we were
planning an extension of Pass and Covina Road to extend into the property
and serve these two land dump sites and the rest of the development, There
were objections made at the last hearing from certain property owners who
felt that the burden of traffic that would be placed on Pass and Covina
Road from this proposed operation was sufficiently great that we should
attempt to come up with some other type of solution to our problem and we
did attempt to do that and we have proposed to the Council in this appli-
cation that Nogales Street be extended into the property following this
dotted line (indicating) serving this land fill site and going over to
connect with the extension of Pass and Covina Road and serve the smaller
of the two sites, so you will have a continuous service road which will be
able to service these two areas,,
I think that in all this discussion
about traffic there are a couple of things that we may have lost sight of
Although the testimony indicated, at its peak of operation these sites would
generate approximately 300 to 350 additional trucks per day. Many of those
rucks- are now using Pass and Covina Road and using land fill operations
trucks
are not too far away. We are not really adding 350 trucks even if we
placed all of them on Pass and Covina road because there are trucks that have
used it anyway,, Secondly, any traffic survey that you will consult will
indicate to you that. an average two-family home will generate approximately
10 car movements per day for that family so that the equivilent of 300"
trucks would be approximately 30 additional families so if 30 additional
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families were placed on an area where they would..be.placed where they would
..go.on Pass and Covina, they would add, in terms, 300 cars a day. We do
.. feel.that.the Nogales Street cutoff will take a substantial amount of those
...tr.ueks.and that would be the peak operation of these.dumps and we would
hope to.divide the traffic roughly in half,, Of course,_we have agreed to
_condition.the operation of the land fill sites upon the use.of any access
roads..,which the Council may specify and no others. If the Council at any
._time..feels we are placing too great a burden on the traffic patterns of
Pass and Covina or that we are generating too much noise or anything else
that,may be offensive to the City, the Council would have.:the power to
terminate the operation. This we feel is a power you would have in any
event under your police powers and we will concede you a condition that will
give.. you just that,,
We are taking, of course, the bulk of
the risk here because we are developing the residential areas of the
property, We are developing it in conjunction with these sites. We expect
to..market these home sites to property owners so we feel it is a successful
:..and..reasonable way to solve the problems that we have. I think you can cell
.even better by the picture, I submitted to the Council and also by this relief
...map..that.these.are not --easy problems for the developer to solve,, These are
deep,ravineso You have to fill it; you have to do something to solve the
problem that you faced' Our planners and engineers. say this is a reasonable
.way to fill it and when it is filled it can be made use of for recreational
purposes. We have not heard of any better or higher use for which we can
place the undo We will dedicate when we are completed with these land fill
operations, the total operation within 12 years, dedicate both of these to
a public recreational useo The big one will probably be a golf course and
will be available to all of the citizens of West Covina.
This park and thi's golf course and
the other park sites which the developer is being called upon and will be
called upon under your subdivision ordinance will total approximately 199
acres of park and recreation facilities, At the present time you have
52 such acres in the City of West Covinao I see in the paper that some
people say this is a price for the development. It is not a price, but it is
one means by which the development can take placed The developer has a
problem. When he solves'it we hope the City will receive a commensurate
benefit from it in the terms of park and recreational facilities. We feel in
addition to this being a practical solution that the entire development is a
reasonable one for the City of West Covina,,
Along those lines, we held about a
week ago what was termed a press conference and we prepared for them some
kind of a press kit which had the significant figures in it..o. I will offer
the press kit in evidence to the Council or at least the press release and
the charts that.went with it. Some of the significant things we pointed out
to the press is that when completed this property will contain on it in
addition to the golf course and the park and the memorial park9 4,500 home
sites totalling approximately $10,000s000o00.in valuation, Whet does this
mean to the City of West Covina? The City now has $8509000.0O worth of
property taxes which it derives annually. We would'be adding an additional
$29,69000000 in -property taxo The present City,of;West Covina has $869000,0001,00
in assessed taxable valuation, We would be adding to that approximately
$32,0009000.00 in additional assessed taxable valuation. The assessed
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• valuation er
p pproximately'$1,520,00 per person,
On.the.proposerson now breaks down'.to a person
in the new development of Home Savings and Loan,
there would be an assessed valuation per person in this development of
approximately $1,975.00. The difference in valuation is primarily because
.we..are.developing rather large size lots throughout the area. We are
proposing, for example, 260 lots of 14,400 square feet which will.sell from
$45,000,,00.for a completed home on those home sites; 1,440 lots in the
.9,400 square foot lot which will produce homes selling for $319000,00; and
29800.1ots in the 7,500 square feet catagory with homes selling for
$22,000,00,,. For that reason, we will produce an assessed valuation that is
slightly higher than the valuation in the City of West Covina here today.
This.means to the people that they are paying per person in property taxes
to the City about $14,16 per person; the people residing in this property
will.be contributing on an equal basis $18,,27 per person or $4o00.per person
more,
I don't believe this development will
require services which will be greater than the services now provided in the
City of West Covina, Also, this development will allow the addition of
approximately sixteen to eighteen thousand more people in the City of West
Covina and by the',time this development is completed in 10 or 12 years
with the normal growth you can expect for your own City, your population will
be reaching about100.,000o You can extend the services to this area for a
•less dollar cost than you can provide services for fifty or sixty thousand
people, You will be deriving from this property a per capita tax return
which will be higher than the existing tax return in the City'of West Covina,
I hope this will mean ultimately a lower tax rate per person or more revenue
to the City per capita which the City can do with what it pleases,
We have promised to do many things
for the City of.West Covina by this development and we are asking several
favors in return and one is to permit us to operate the proposed land fill
sites B and D until they are completed and can be converted to a public
recreation purposed
Mr, Bradford B. Cushing We are here tonight to clear up some
715 South Serenade Avenue misrepresentations in connection with
West Covina this and we have submitted a petition
to substantiate our stand, This was
made on a survey basis and you may note that the signers live in widely
separated areas of West Covina, In yesterday's local paper advertisement
almost a half page sized,and this was recommended to be the united voice of
West Covina citizens opposed to Home Savings and Loan development, This is
not true, It has been shown at the polls before that loud demonstrations from
minority groups do not reflect a majority opinion, We urge the City Council
to consider this issue in the interests of all the citizens of West Covina,
There is no need for me to take up
• the time of everyone in listing the tax advantages, advantages in additional
parks, the representative from Home Savings has done this, You have all the
facts before you and we are here to inform you that this is not a one-sided
issue, We are also here to let you know that we are proud of our City Council
who, in the face of adverse public -light in the newspaper, loud and boisterous
harangue from pressure groups, most of whom do not live in West Covina, this
Council had the courage to open these hearings tonight,
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• IN -OPPOSITION
Mr, Harvey S, Krieger I reside at 1326 Hollencrest Drive in
Attorney at Law West Covina, I represent the position
1014 South Glendora Avenue of the Hollencrest Park Association,
West Covina
I must apologize for a.statement I
made.before this Council on January 28 because it was an error. I said that
I.:.felt:there was no.new evidence to bring in on this particular matter. The
mistake I.made was this: There is new evidence; there is a profile map and
now a photograph and that represents the new evidence, I.submit to the
Council.that the opposition to this matter has been stated in 1s100
signatures on.petitions of residents of the. City of West Covina.
Directing my remarks first of all to
..the quote new evidence that the proponents have brought in and taking them
in order:,. We have what? We still have two dump sites,, Rather than 151
acres, _we have 127 acres of dump site, Did the capacity change? I heard
not a word.that we are still not talking about 10 billion cubic yards of
trash and rubbish and garbage.
The Council stated they were concerned
with.traffic problems, Azusa Avenue doesn't go through there and won't for
some time, What the proponents have brought before you is an additional
access road and this is supposed to solve the problem of West Covina directed
to these dump siteso This will take automatically the traffic off the
freeway system; it will take it off Glendora Avenue and it will take it off
Amar and Pass and Cc,vina9 because they are all going'to come down Valley
Boulevard, That is the one thing we have fought this matter on. We have
not fought this on the commercial or the lot sizes but Home Savings and Loan
has the tremendous public capacity to talk about memorial parks when they
mean cemetaries, to talk about land sanitary fills when they mean dumps and
they have the capacity to talk about valuation and Annexation 158 when we are
talking about dumps,. All we want to talk about is dumps. Does West Covina
need dumps or don't they want dumps?
As far as this valuation figures do
you mean to tell me they didn't have those figures on December 26th or
January 14th? What is the purpose of these figures? The purpose of these
figures is to exert,a blackjack effect on the City Council and use it for
leverage.
I have seen some of this material that
have come in in support of these dumps from the citizens of West Covina and
.what do they say? They say don't vote against Annexation 158, We are not
asking you to vote against Annexation 158, This City doesn't have to lose
this grandiose plan, all this revenue, All Home Savings and Loan has to do
.is dismiss their lawsuit and it all comes in. The only problem is all these
promises and plans have a price tag to them. It is the price tag we object
to,, not the annexation,
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'. We don't feel that when we come in this is the sixth public hearing, two before the Planning Commission, four
before.you gentlemen -- we don't feel .that if this.is going to be judged on
.the.merit that we ought to be.talking with a lawsuit, When he offers to say
to.you, "If,we violate anything, terminate us", your City Attorney. has told
you you could do that t.o,begin with. Therewasn't.anything new in that,:
There_isnet anything new in this traffic proposal or reducing it from 151
...to:127,.the capacity can stay the same and that is where the profit is and
.._I.can't get it through my brain and I can't see how you can take 127:acres
of dump and.turn it into,199 acres of park land.
I talked to the Planning Section of
._'..the::Los Angeles County Park and Recreation Department and I asked them .
for..a.18-hole, 72-par.golf course., how much ground would be needed and they
....say 150 acres, Now, if we are talking about a miniature golf course, let's
call it that,
There has been one thing said here
that I hadn't heard before and we have tried to be'frank with this Council,
He did.say.that they would dedicate it to public use. I assume that it
meant.in the.true sense of dedication but I.don't see new evidence.in this
or in.the survey study.
When we are talking about this
matter which was before the Coun,cil,on January 14, the vote was four to one.
It was four to one against dumps and the comments of the Council in voting
against dumps were basically that there was no benefit to.the City of West
Covina, that in inspecting a County Sanitary Fill the reaction was one of
being seasick, I have heard about no popular support. I still fail to
find any popular support among the citizens.of West Covina,for this
proposal, I have heard.that it sets a precedent and it will set a
precedence because those hills are going to be replete with the same argu-
ments a.couple years hence that are being given to you tonight except there
is going to be one difference; the foot is going to be in the door; you are
going to have those dump sites here and the need is going to be established
by the use,
the matter of image
out here because we
Ritchie says,Home S
money here.;.:this. is
already indicated t
One of the Councilmen brought up
the -City of Convenient Dumps. 559000 of us moved
thought this was a city of beautiful homes, Mr,
avings and Loan is taking the risk. We already have our
our home; As far as the use of this property, I have
you what our findings.are on this golf course matter.
The Vice President of Home Savings
and Loan also in.this press release said that Home Savings has worked in
the past and will continue"to work in the future for the best development
of West Covina, We -.offer to join with Home Savings and Loan in that
endeavor, We offer to join with them and ,suggest they dismiss their lawsuits
and fight us on even ground, fight us on the dumps but not on Annexation 158,
They can't do it,
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They have brought in all kinds of
figures on this particular matter, It.started out with a.populatiori of
40.9 ,,then it dropped to 25,000; then it dropped to 16,000; then we heard
the.figures that the dump need in Los Angeles County for the next 1'�years
was going.to be 175 million cubic yards and in the San Gabriel Va114y we are.
going to generate 90 million of that alone. They said to you these"'are the
most stringent conditions that have ever been imposed on a dump site, They
have never been as far as San Dimas to read those.
Let's talk about highest and best
use once, Mr. Ritchie would have you believe.that it. is our job to convince
you that it is not the highest and best use, I had always understood that it.
was the job of the proponents to convince you that it was the highest and.
best use, 'We have heard experts but I have never -heard one expert say that.
this was.the highest and best use. On the _other hand,'there is a statement
that perhaps the proponents would like the Council to forget and that is a
statement that their engineer Mr. McIntyre made at the Planning Commission
meeting on November 7 and it had to do with the development of this property
and he.said obviously there are -- they are doing more difficult property,
referring to Hollywood and Beverly Hills than they are here at this time.
That is the closest they came.to an analysis of the question of highest.and
best use. Are we supposed to suggest to Home Savings and Loan what the
highest and best use for their property is? Okay. If you want to fill those
ravines, gentlemen, you don't have to do it with garbage and rubbish, do it
with dirt
Some of us have been over that
property and we are envious; it is beautiful property; it sits up there and you
can look north and south and east but if they are going to have to look south
to dumps, there is going to be a problem,, I think the real problem is that
Home Savings and Loan isn't planning this development; Home Savings and Loan
wants to watch this property enhance in value but they.want to watch a
return on their property to meet their taxes and the way to do it is to get
a paying proposition going in there and these dump sites come out to five
million dollars and that is not a bad return on 127 acres,
I haven't heard any discussion on
property devaluation, There was evidence by opponents as to that, We
understand that the property devaluation spreads within a radius of three
miles from a dump site, I can't tell you how far we are supposed to be,
The first time it was 4,000 feet; the second time it was 1,500 and now I
understand we are half a mile,
If Mr. Ritchie can talk about
valuation increase then I can bring this other thing out in.the open, Home
Savings and Loan is playing the County against Walnut and is playing Walnut
against the City'Council and is playing the City Council against its
citizens, If you don't like it, we don't like it either. We don't like to
te placed in this position but we are not fighting for any monetary return;
e are fighting merely to keep what we have already and we have no objection
to Home Savings and Loan getting a return on their money but not at our .
expense because it isn't their gamble, it is ours, It is gambling with what
we already have,
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• Perhaps Home Savings has been a.
:little more forthright in this annexation matter than they have been in
their statistics as to need,, They have brought -out they.would be pleased
to dismiss this :lawsuit. This is the.way perhaps we can.get.together and
resolve this matter,,. We would be.`happy, too, Let them dismiss their, lawsuit.
We don°.t care, We are not. fighting.Annexation.158, I.haven't talked to any
citizen in West Covina who is fighting Annexation•158; If they wanted to..
fight it they would not do it through our group.9,,they would fight it in
another way,
I have discussed the basic question
before you and I would like you to ask yourselves one:question and that is
ir. Annexation 158`was not in this picture, if Home Savings•.:and.Loan were not
holding a club. over our heads, would you vote for these.dumps? If you.would,
then I say vote for.them tonight. But don't, -be dishonest withyourselves:
or`with. the. people of this .City and say you are really vo.ting..for:them
because of'need because it Just.isn't true
We have talked to the,Commission and
the Council about dumps but Home Savings doesn't.want to talk about dumps;
.they want to talk about benefits of everything except dumps, If we have
to, -we will talk to the people about dumps because the people of West Covinas
and,I say this individually, the people of West Covina do not. want dumps,
At this time, I would like to
introduce the president of `the Hollencrest Park Association, Mr, John Bayer
Mr, John 'Ba'yer Mro Krieger has.covered most of our
1310 Hidden Valley Drive pointso The main thing we are
West Covina concerned with,.we are opposed to
the dumps. We feel that there is
no need,and there has been no need shown for these dumps, Mr, Krieger
..also pointed out that possibly San Gabriel Valley is going to become a
"dumpy section, If you examine the map of West Covina that.not only will it
become a, dumpy section but these dumps will be in the center of the City of.
West.Covina.
Gentlemen, we are not against this
annexation, I have had the opportunity since the last meeting to go over
. this property on foot and look at it and there has been quite a bit. of
presentation from proponents as to the highest and best use of this property,
If.you put sanitary dumps in there, this is not going to be any higher and.
better use because you cannot build. -On this property so the highest and best
use on this property will be some form of recreation, However, I would
question the,golf course that they point..out, The acreage.required for that
is,Around 140 to 160 acres, I am wondering now if we get a precedent by
putting these dumps in here. This.looks like possibly a. nine -hole golf
course, Maybe we come in with another nine -hole course".with a future dump
•because the precedent has been set.,
I have examined the property and this
property is -:.not prec.ipitous, I don't agree that it is precipitous property,
It is a beautiful piece of property.. There are area-s'in the Santa Monica
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• Mountains where residential development has been developed.and I could point
out Laurelwood, Royal Oaks, Royalwood, areas in the Brentwood Canyon areas,'
areas in the Hollywood Hills, these have all been developed without such,an
operation. If you put the dumps in there, there is -not going.to be a higher
And better use and the land will be lost, If you put a residential area
into this area it is conceivable there will be some return from thiso
I think.we have.presented our case
in the past and based on the need which is the basic reason for granting
an unclassified use permit in this City,, On January 14th, this Council
found that there had.been no need established as far as the City of West
..Covina,was concerned for these -dumps and, gentlemen, we.would request that
YOU find the same way tonight,
Mro Johii, :Falls I would like to refer to the Minutes
1226 Hidden Valley Drive of the meeting of 12/26/62 in which
.West Covina Councilman Snyder asked Dr. Ludwig,
who Home Savings and.Loan had come
over here as an expert on dumps, Councilman Snyder, "Are there unexpected
improvements in the science .of these sanitary land fill projects?" Ludwig:
"There is no significant improvements because of the problems that have been
essentially involved." Gentlemen. if this is expert testimony, I'll eat my
•hat in the middle of Hollywood and Vine at high noon tomorrow, Mro Joseph,
you said in one of these Minutes that the County of Los Angeles needed 90
million cubic feet of dump area over a period of the next 25 years? With
just a little bit of leg work on my part., I can state this-, that Mro
Thorson who has 25 years of dumpage left.at 6% per annum.growth rate can be
guaranteed within a minimum of three years an operating facility which will
increase the life expectancy of his 25 years of dumps to 25 hundred years.
This is not something out in the blue. We know how to do it. There are
no unknown facts in this area. It can be done. This is a minimum; a hundred
times the.life expectancy of this or any other dump. The technology is
there; the know-how exists today; it is just a matter of building a machine
to do ite
As you know, West Covina is the
.bedroom of Los Angeles County.. There is no industry per se out here; these
are our homes. If they told me in 1958 when I moved out here that I would.
.appear before the Council standing up for what I assume is my constitutional
right, believing what I believe to be.true, but which I moved out here took
just as a matter of fact, I would have said, "You're crazy." I have fallen
in love with this community. I am very proud of it. Since it is my bedroom,
since we rank third or fourth per capital in Los Angeles County --
incidentally, we have more Phd,,s in the City of West Covina than in any City
in Southern California:-! so if Home Savings and Loan is this.misinformed
that they are talking to a bunch of hayseeds, I think they are mistaken.
Consequently, gentlemen. I had a
much longer thing. I talked to Mr. Lockhard, explained our situation. As
Mr...Krieger said, we do not have a complaint against the -homes as long as
they support themselves on the tax roll; we don't oppose the C-3 or C-l; we
oppose the dumps,
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There have''been some very bland
and flagrant statements made by Mr. Ritchie before you very gentlemeno I
have consulted .by presenting a hypothetical case to an association of.his
peers, not mentioning his name nor this community nor anything else, I
wentto the State Supreme Court and asked the same question up there,, I say
right here and now that Home Savings and Loan is on mighty, mighty thin
.ground and I am not a proponent on law; I am,not expert in.this field but I
spent $2,500 in the last three weeks researching this thing,.not myself
but through a.firm, the number one firm in Los Angeles, There is an extreme
case here and it is a mighty thin line as :to where the.coercion and extortion
by mere reference to this suit .that is pending, whether.it.is in fact a
municipal law°they.call the compromise, in civil court.if Mr. Ritchie pulled.
this he.would have a.felony•charge charged against himo. This case has been
handled in a,highly unethical manner under municipal or civil law,
.As Mr,` Krieger has.mentioned, the
case is not 15.8, the case is:71, dumps, dumppo There has_been interference
with the duly elected officials with the City..of West Covina, you gentlemen.
.Do .we -have a need for dumps?. No, Neither does the County of.Los Angeles,
Mr, Joseph, do the citizens of West Covina want.the dumps?- No.
We have'a third thing to answero:
We.have. a moral and whatever responsibility to.the. City.of La Puente a they
• are opposed to it; we have a moral responsibility to the unincorporated
areas, they oppose it with the exception.ofI -- I don't know one, You have
a very easy decision, gentlemen, I refer-to•t'he.Los Angeles Times, Monday,
February 4, Humility,. Home Savings and Loan, may have humility in their
hearts but it certainly comes out as arrogance when you,talk about running
roughshod over 1209000 people,
Mro Edward Barons I am here as a representative and
169,28 Pocono Street presidentof the Men's Council of
Valinda St, Martha's Catholic Church and
I represent that congregation here
this evening, Our establishment is at 444 Pass and Covina Street and our.
parishoners reside in La Puente, West Covina and, Valinda.,` As you can tell
from the address, our establishment is right close to these dumpsites, We
are not interested in nor are we objecting to any annexation of any property.
We are not concerned with this and we -realize we.don't have a right. to be
concerned with this. We do object to the dump sites, kre.aware ttaat because,
only a small percentage of our congregation are residents,of West Covina that
legally we can't do anything about it. But morally we.believe it is wrong and
we.appreciate the opportunity very much to state why we think it is wrong and
what.it will do to us, These dump sites have been talked about for quite a
while here this evening and quite a bit other evenings. I was not represent-
ing the congregation on any of the other evenings; I don't know what was
said but I did notice the absence of one word all evening and I can't
•understand it, It is the first word that comes to my mind and the first
word that comes to the mind of any of you gentlemen and that word is "odor",
We have got a school down there.; 300 children, We are adding 5-0 children a
year and probably will for the next ten. We can't afford air conditioning,
put charcoal filter elements in toe air conditioning system of a plant that
size, You.can't tell me, and I don't suggest that you gentlemen are trying
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Page Fifteen
to, but no one is going to convince me by what was said here tonight or
any. other. time that those children, first through eighth grade, are not
,going to get a great deal of odor in those classrooms any time it gets
warm or the wind is in the right directiono
I can't tell you specifically how
far it is from the proposed dump sites in the terms of footage to those
classrooms but I know where both sites are'.and I'm sure you gentlemen do,
too, Theexact footage, I am sure you will agree.with.me, isn't very
important, Odors have carried a lot farther than that,
Our second objection with terms
of our children going to that school is there is only.one road, only one
access road to our school down there and that is Pass.and Covina.Roado We
have a problem at the present time because.of the size of the road, the
inadequacy of the road and these dump trucks going to.the other dumpsites
furtheron down the road, It may not add.-350 dump trucks a day`but if -it
adds three -fifths of a dump truck it is too much as far as we are concerned.
Our children have to walk home from school but.there has been nobody
..offering to make any provisions for their safety, The City is not obligated
..to provide for their safety but Home Savings and Loan9'if they were going to
establish such a thing, would be morally obligated to provide for it. We
know we can't force them to .do this but we have an argument and we are going
to state ito
This -gentleman representing this
company is an attorney, I don't know what his personal feelings are but
I am sure he has to live with himself and we are talking about devaluation
of the property of other people, not just individual homes, but our church,
its.school as it sits right now is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars,
This may be pittance.to Home Savings and Loan but it came out of our
congregation's pockets in hard-earned dollars,
Gentlemen, you have to live with.
!;.yourselves, t000 As we understand it, the property is now owned by Home
Savings and Loan, No matter what you do here, they are going to continue
to own it, With their money, .with their representation, with their very.
..capable employees, they are going to turn a buck on.that property regardless
of `what you decide here tonight or any other night,: We are not against this
but we say they can turn a buck on that property without hurting us and a
lot of other people,
Mr, Bo M, Sanford I would like to make two comments on
1306 Lark Ellen Mr,. Ritchie's presentation. The
Valinda first one is the proposed Nogales
Street access is contiguous with.the
•new La Puente High School, This would shuffle all that truck traffic right
past the high school, This. street is also posted at the present time for
3,000 pounds, in case you're interested,
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I had a little thing to say here
tonight so I am going to o on with it. I warit'you to know gathered.before
g g g g
You tonight are residents of West Covina, Valinda and.surrounding territories,
Their purpose for attending this meeting here tonight is.to indicate to you
by physical being their opposition to this proposed.unclassified use permit
requested by Home Savings and Loan. These people have gathered before
you on previous occasions for this same purpose and on January 14th, they
received your four -to -one vote in opposition to this dump and this cemetary,
Mr. Ritchie has presented again
tonight the old package he has previously presented to.discuss any.other
parts;of these other than I have already referred to in our estimation would
tend to leave some small part of credence to the possibility that they
might.indeed.have some basis.and fact.. I submit to you -that the entire
proposal remains as it r.emained.on January 14th when you voted four to one
against it, I submit to. you again that Mr, Ritchie has added nothing to the
original package but has:in fact compounded the undesirable qualities of.it,
I submit that Mr, Ritchie has irrevocably failed as he did on January 14th
to show a need for this dump, I submit to you that Mr. Ritchie has failed
irrevocably, as he did on January 14th, to convince the residents of Valinda,
West Covina, and the surrounding,territories that these dumps,and cemetary
would contribute.anything to the betterment of our community, I submit to
you that Mr, Ritchie, who does.not live in our area, that Home Savings and
• Loan, which does not live in our area, which the battery of hired engineers
who do not live in our area, have irrevocably failed each and every one to
show a need for these dumps and cemetaries. The only apparent conclusion
that one could come to would be to suppose that the billion -dollar Home
Savings and Loan Association is so enamored with the prospect of becoming
the only twos -billion -dollar Home Savings and Loan Association that it tends
to exercise whatever means are'necessary`irrespective of the methods or the
moral aspects involved..to reach this monumental materialistic monument and
in our case it would appear that they are attempting, through you gentlemen,
to force this condition upon_ the residents of this area regardless of
whether it is needed or, not for they will not be here to see it, regardless
of whether it is wanted,or not for they will not be here .to live with it
and regardless of what effect it has on the growth and development of our
community for they will not be here tolsuffer from the effects of it,
What, then, -are we here to decide?
Are we hereto decide an issue of dumps and cemetaries? I say to.you
gentlemen now we are,not'here to decide an issue of dumps and cemetaries,
fo_r that issue was decided on January-14th when you gentlemen voted four to
,one in opposition to this dump•and.cemetary, What, then, are we hereto
decide tonight? We are here tonight to reaffirm a principle so basic that
without it you would cease to exist as a City, so basic that without it
we would cease to exist as a state, and, gentlemen, so basic we would cease
to exist as a country and I submit to you that that basic principle is the
will of,the people,:after due presentation of -evidences to decide what is
•right, what is just,'what is needed and what is not needed and I submit
to you gentlemen that it is a conclusion of the people.here tonight that
.these dumps and.cemetaries are neither needed nor wanted in our community,
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•
Mro Charles Do Kayser,, Jr, I think the sales presentation
1300 Hidden Valley Drive made by Home Savings is one we must
West Covina admire especially in their per-
sistence, However, I think we
must recognize in any selling job that the best way to sell something is
to avoid the objections if they come up. We have heard over and over again
in the last several meetings of the Council about the various and sundry
things that would benefit West Covina such as certain sizes of homes and
the fact that there would be parks and golf courses and the 'fact that there
would be a certain amount of income from the various taxes and so on and
yet after the first meeting when the arguments about the need for dumps in
the City of West Covina were knocked down so beautifully, this seems to have
been avoided from that time ono- In the new evidence that was supposed to
have been brought up tonight we didn't hear one word about need and this
seems to be the only thing we are trying to find out and that is what is
this new evidence which shows how much we need these dumps? We have gone
through all kinds of reports and at one time Mr. Ludwig said that the dumps
would be filled mostly from.West Covina and then turned right around and a
very short time later said that if he•was to fill it in.the period of time
that was designated then he couldn't fill it from West Covina and therefore
the need suddenly disappeared. Home Savings and Loan said,in one of the
meetings that they had presented this tremendous volume of need for these
dumps to the Planning Commission and the City Council and I can't find out
• why this tremendous volume of need exists, I can't find any real expression
of need for these dumps.
According to their own experts who
have taken a population of 833,,333 people using the dumps exclusively for
three years to fill them. I don't know where these people are coming from
or how they could get them to use these dumps exclusively, They started
:`out by saying 100 dump trucks; tonight they mentioned 350, I would like to
know how many it is going to be,
Also,, they have never shown any
prior experience in running a dump, We don't know if they could run one.
Also,, they pointed.out at one point they said there will be a lot of
exclusive -type homes being built but to my knowledge, these exclusive -type
homes remain unsold, I don't think anyone would want to buy one near a
dump, If you have to sell an area between a cemetary and a dump, this is
going to be quite a sales job and I say their persistence is tremendous,
They have not shown anywhere in their evidence that West Covina will be
benefited by these dumps, I haven't seen any place where it would show what
benefit. West Covina would have from these dumps. They said they were three
years in planning this proposal and they said it took a year to finalize it
and we are still without any evidence to support the needs for these garbage
dumps. You would think in three years of planning and one year finalizing
they could get some expression of need,
Also,, I will submit that in their
• statements about what they -are going to do with all this area, when they
say that they are going to make a memorial park when they mean a cemetary
and a land fill when they mean dumps,, they are not really being honest with us
or with you and I think with all these facts we have presented to you tonight
that we humbly submit that you resolve that they don't have the dumps in our
area,
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, T1 - Continued
• REBUTTAL
Mr, Graham Ritchie: Just a brief word. I would hope that
the -press would see fit not to
repeat in the paper statements with regard to possible.felonious conduct by
myself, i feel that the statement was slanderous and I think if it were ,
reprinted in the papers it would be libelous, You, of course, will use your.
own judgment,
There have.been somewhat more serious
statementV here tonight raising objections to the proposal and I think some'
of those statements have been either misstated or perhaps our position has
been misunderstood and I would like to take a couple of, minutes to clear up
some of those,
With respect to need, I was ad
monished not to go into the long detailed testimony which we had offered
previously, Secondly, I know at the last hearing before this Council when
our original proposal was rejected they had before them._a very comprehensive:
study of the needs of this facility.by your own staffo -I believe the
figures and conclusions in that report are most helpful to the Council and
ILam sure the Council is aware of what is in that report and will be guided
by that with respect to the question of need,
• I was interested to -know that some
of the opponents don't object to the residential portion'of the development;
they object to everything else. They say they have a solution and that i-s
to fill these holes with dirt, First of all, there are 10 million cubic=
yards of dirt, It will take about 12 years. to fill this with two -thirds -
refuse and one-third dirt, We are not putting the burden on the Council of
finding the highest and best use of this -property; we think we have found it*,
,We think the solution we offer is the best solution that can be found for
.these holes in the ground, I am not demanding that some one make a better
offer, I am saying this is the best we have been able to come up with and
we spent a lot of time and effort and money trying to find these solutions,
We built this to scale because
people objected to the fact we had to use a depressed scale on the wall. We
suggested the use of Nogales when the people objected to the traffic,
,However, the traffic is there anyway using other facilities but we are
willing to put in a secondary. road which will be'eostly to the developer
simply.to try and solve what we felt was an honestly advanced objection to
our proposal,
We stated we would have 199 acres
of park and recreation development. It will not all be here. There will
be these two sites and there will be many school sites with parks adjoining
and many other independently operated park sites all of which are required
by your code. We talked about 40,000 population, That is true for the
• whole acreage that the applicant owns, only half of this is involved in this
application, The projection of 40,000 was the population for the total
development,
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Page Nineteen
0 With respect to the p questions of
odor which were offered, I think each member'of the Council either has or
had the opportunity to visit the Sepulveda Canyon site or the Shoal Canyon
site operated by the County under the same conditions as those which your
staff has proposed which you impose upon the applicant, I think if the
Council went there they must have satisfied themselves that these things can
be operated and should be operated without the creation of any offensive
odors or noise or anything else that could effect any property owner who
comes anywhere close to this property,
I think it was Mr. Krieger who
suggested -- and I can't believe that he is serious but I think it has to
be answered -- that Home Savings some how or another is not going to develop
this thing; that we have spent all this time, money and effort for the
simple reason to sit back and watch the property value increase, From what
everybody has told me and the effort and energy they have expended, I am,
at least, fully convinced that they fully intend to develop this property.
I don't believe Mr. Krieger has any evidence to support this, I think it is
a foolish and ill-considered charge.
development, All we can do
Council, they have to meigh
•many of these problems as it
entertain any considerations
solution to it, This is our
Mayor Barnes:.
Councilman Heath:
I think this is an intelligent
is again say it is entirely up to the
these things. We have attempted to solve as
is physically possible to solve, We will
to solve any of these problems if there is a
proposal and we submit it for your decision,
would like to have the floor for a few
There being no further public
testimony, I'll declare the hearing
closed,
Before each one of the Councilmen is
given an opportunity to speaks I
minutes,
Outside of Mayor Barnes, I am the
senior member of the Council and it was during the time when Mayor Barnes
and I were on the Council that this annexation came before the City Council,
It was previous to my time when they had the public hearing and in the
public hearing an attorney in opposition was stating a point of law, Inthe
hubbub that followed, certain individuals were escorted from the chamber,
It was contended that the man had a legitimate complaint and in the,dis-
cussion that followed the Council and the opponents made a gentlemen's
agreement that the annexation would remain status quo, I can go on to say
that unbeknown to the opponent the annexation did not remain as status quo
and the ordinances were read and the thirty days ran out and at the end of
thirty days the City filed with the State for the completion of the annexa-
tion, still unbeknown to the opponent, The opponent claimed that this was
very irregular and went to the Attorney General, The Attorney Gnneral gave
them the right to issue a quo warranto or what warrents action to begin
lawsuits against the City for completion of this annexation, Right at that
time is when Home Savings came into the picture and they picked up where
the previous owner left off, They have held this lawsuit in abeyance,
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We could have forced the celosing of°this lawsuit but I.think we knew that our
chahces.werd fifty-fifty,, and I will say this with my tongue in my cheek,_by
..pushing this lawsuit we had a tremendous responsibility to this.. City because
if we pushed.the law suit and lost, this.City-would not grow any more, If
we pushed the hawsui.t and -,'won, this would be fine,.but ,,I don't think there
was anyone on this Council or the previous Council who.would take the risk
of pushing the lawsuit and letting down the people'of the City,..
Now, when some.of these people say
"Forget this hammer`'over your head,, ."forget this,,threat",.this is fine for
them to talk,Do the.► want to assume this responsibility to se&"that we win
this lawsuit.? We don`t know whether we..can or whether.we can't,` We do know
on one of -the points which has been filed against us in this.lawsuit we have
been beaten by Forest Lawn and for us to,blandly sit here and say, "Well,.
sure,` Forest Lawn beat us on this point but'we can turn around and beat
Home Savings. and Loan". I think is reaching for'starso
I am not saying we should be forced
into anything and I don't think we should be whipped°in line with the threat
of a lawsuit but I am making these statements because I havebeen close to
this lawsuit for four. years last December 10th, and the Mayor; knows well
what.I am saying is exactly true and`I think if you,talk to soVe of the
people representing Home Savings and. Loan they.will tell you the same thing,
The reason I took this tiie at this
time. before the.Council starts to talk individually was to point out to you
the history of this lawsuit which evidently a majority of these people
tonight do not. understando
Councilman Snyder: I have some questions that are
pertinent to the record that I
would like to .ask,
Mayor Barnes: I think the Council prior and this
Council have always hoped against
hope that there would be .a settlement without a lawsuit. because as you know,
in any lawsuit affording attorneys is very expensive, not to us, to you,
the citizens of West Covinao You -pay the bill for lawsuits, I would like
this:,letter read for the record from Vernon R, MottinRer, who was the Mayor
and -Councilman at the..t-ime of the .annexation and who. objects to the change.
There are many here this evening
.who feel there was never to be a land -fill .operation in this area prior to
Home Savings and Lo.an's application, This is.not so, Land fill I'D" has been
always, when annexed, in the minds of the Council, fora land -fill operation -
our original thin.kin g that we would buy this area for the City of West
.Covina and develop a regional park, Now, this has always been in the think-
ing of the Council even when we annexed the property,
I received one other letter from
'the Mayor Pro Tem and.former Councilman Jay Dale Pittenger, (Read said
letter for the record objecting to,the change.,) These letters I think have a
lot of significance in that they were former Councilmen and Mayor who are
well known throughout the City and they have played an active part in our
civic government in planning. I know all of you people.
realize these two gentlemen are honorable men and would have no reason to
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Page Twenty -One
• say anything this is untrue. With this, I would like to have Mr. Piotten
read some letters that he -received,
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: Let the record show that notice..
of this,,hearing.was published
in the West Covina Tribune on February 14, 1963;'that the same mailing
list was.used to,send out notices as used in the previous hearing..
We have,a petition submitted by
Harvey Krieger containing 283 names in oppositiono We have not had time to
check the signatures,
We have a letter'from.the•La Puente
Chamber of Commerce in opposition to granting this.unclassified use permit,
We have a letter from Mr. Ralph G.o
Vega, 424 South Fernwood, registering his objection,
We have.a letter from the Rowland.
School District.signed.by Charles Longfellow in opposition to granting
this unclassified use permit,
We have a letter from Supervisor
Frank Bonelli and attached thereto a letter from James Po.Craig, First
Vice President of the San Jose Home Improvements, Incorporated, directed.•
to the Mayor and the City Council in opposition, (Read said letter,,).
We have a letter from the -West
Covina Post No. 7909 American:Legiono .(Read said letter stating that the
Legion has taken no position whatsoever in this mat
ter,)
We have a letter to Mayor Barnes
dated February 209,,-1963 from Gladys Do Maddox, 1610,East Workman Avenue.
I believe you have seen this
petition in favor,
Mayor Barnes.
Yes, we have.
Councilman Snyder: I have some questions that I think
have not been.brought out tonight
I have one .in particular, If dumps were not granted, homes would be unusable
because of .the economy of land fill operation in this area? The second
question is would you again show what -- show with a straight edge how far
the nearest point of the dumps is to the nearest house on the model?
Mr, Graham Ritchie. On the first one, 126 acres would
be the total -unusable for these
siteso
Councilma
n Snyder: Would this include.the hills
grading down to fill the dumps?
I think the whole area would.include those hills, would it -not?
Mr,, Graham Ritchie.: You would deprive yourselves of
quite a few more home sites,
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• Mr. John McIntyre To the total length of this 1 i
Y g sca e s
670 Monterey Pass Road approximately 5,000 feet. We have
Monterey'Park seven inches so you have approximately
2800 feet from the most approximate
edge of the dump to the nearest dwelling unit as of right now,, I don't think
from my inspection there are any dwelling units on Amar Road at this present
time,, They would be slightly more approximate,, From Amar Road at its
intersection with Pass and Covina we have a dimention of approximately 1,700
feet.
Councilman Snyder: Being the engineer, if you did not
have the dumps and your claim is
you cannot economically cut and fill here without dumps., then how many
of these rugged hills., how much in acreage would,be unusable ever for anything
except possibly hills?
Mr,, John McIntyre: That is a difficult question to
answer, Some of the area is usable
for development. Of a total of approximately 125 acres, I would say that
approximately 70 to 80 would be our estimate of the acres that would be
unfeasible to develop within today's economic market in West Covina.
Councilman Snyder:
The dump is to allow you to develop
this area; in other words, to help
smooth off these hills?
Mr. John McIntyre: It was our suggestion as engineers
that the out on the ridges be
partially made.in order to facilitate the land -fill operation but it was
agreed later to let them remain ungraded until the fill sites were made.
We were proposing, if you recall in my first statement, to partially grade
down these upper ridges for building sites in conjunction with the sanitary
land -fill operation. Mr. Ritchie has agreed that these ridges will not be
graded down until the fill sites are completed.
Councilman Towner: Would you show with your straight
edge the line of sight from the
nearest home to these dumps or from the area to the north?
Mr. John McIntyre: I think the most approximate homes
today are in this area which I
believe is in West Covina immediately at the northwesterly extremity of the
site and --
Voice-
There are.homes
along Amar Road,
Councilman Snyder:
Show the
ones to
the north.
• Mr. John McIntyre: It is difficult to indicate the
natural scale but a half inch on the
map, which this approximates, would be 200 feet in this elevation.
Council'man.Snyder: Show the Hollencrest area.
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40-Mr. John McIntyre. Depending upon where you sit you
have approximately 300 feet and on
the smaller canyon the minimum difference in site elevation that we can -
determine from the school is approximately 200 feet in elevation,
.•
Councilman Snyder. I think there was one other point
of evidence which the Council has
but which was not brought out as evidence and that is.the possible uses of
the dump fills or fills after they are filled, We all know they cannot be
built upon,.for 50 years, The possible uses that I have; listed from the
staff are, and I think they should be listed, are arboretum, park➢ golf
course, college campuses, parking lots, playgrounds, trailer parks, air
fields, storage areas, farms and roads. I don't know whether it would be
correct procedure, but there is a man in the audience who might have some-
thing to say as to the unforeseen or other possible.uses of filled dump
sites, If the Council would permit, I would like to ask Mr. Noonan to make
a brief statement on the potential of this, I consider this additional
testimony,
Mr, Harvey Krieger:
City Attorney, Mr, Williams:
.Mayor Barnes:
Are the opponents going.to have an
opportunity to cross examine Mr,
Noonan?
I think they should have.
I think they should have,
Mr, Thomas Noonan I have been asked by several people
938 South Broadmoor Avenue to examine this property from the
West Covina idea of what it might play in the
part of West Covina 10 or 15 years
from now, It required that I visit other developments similar to this in
.other places in Los Angeles County, It was also necessary that I talk to
those who operated colleges in the State of California, It would be my
opinion that if the planned.development of this area was consumated so that
the dumps were eliminated.in a ten -to -twelve-year period that it would
certainly be ideal for West Covina.to have a college campus, possibly a
private college, and also I am certain by that time we will need another
hospital in the area,
Mr, Harvey. Krieger: Mr, Noonan, I voted for you for
Congress but that doesn't mean I'll
take what you say, Have you made any determination as to the highest and
best use of the property as it presently exists?
Mr, Thomas Noonan: I have never borrowed a nickel
from Home Savings; I have never met:
them before Thursday; I don't owe.them any money and I don't have a loan
in process. I do live here and I.am more interested in :he people here
Fifteen years ago if I had stood
here and said."Put a dump site over where some of the vacancies are in the
commercial area" with.the idea in.mind we might have a magnificant park or
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Page Twenty -Four
high rise buildings there, I would have been run out of town. I don't care
when they call them memorial parks or Forest lawn, they are still cemetaries
and dumps,, On the plusses and the minuses, and these are the things I am
interested in, this,is a..good deal, I don't :think it will depreciate one
home; I don't think it.will hurt one property owner; I think it will put the
money in the pockets of the local -,people,, The thing I would suggest to my
city is that there be a terminal date on the cut and fill that there be
ample water at all times available on those roads,, The smell won't get us
but the dust could be very bad,, If 15 years from now if we can end up with
4,500 good homes, with hospitals, with parks, with golf courses, with maybe
a college and the only minus on the property is the cemetary, I would say it
is a good deal and I would put my name to it,,
Mr. Harvey Krieger: ..Have -you ever testified in court
as to real estate appraisals as to
highest and best use?
Mr,, Thomas Noonan: I am afraid I have,,
Mr,, Harvey Krieger: Do you belong to the American
Institute of Real Estat-e Appraisers?
Mr,, Thomas Noonan: No,,
•
Mr,, Harvey Krieger: Do you belong to the American
Right of Way Society?
Mro Thomas Noonan: No,,
Mr,, Harvey Krieger: Do you belong to the American Society
of Residential Appraisers?
Mr,, Thomas Noonan: No,,
Councilman Heath: This information is in our records,,
I
If it is agreeable with the Council,
would like .to ask Mr, Ritchie to ask his associates what he determined
as the life of the present land fill areas are in this section. We have
an estimate from the disposal company owner on the estimated life of the
present disposal areas. This differed considerably.from what Dr,, Ludwig
brought out. He brought out a number that is much less and I am wondering
what that number is,,
Dr,, Harvey Ludwig I am the consulting engineer,, We
.150 East Foothill Boulevard gave figures, Councilman Heath, for
Arcadia each of the existing land fills in
the vicinity, this general vicinity,
and these figures were confirmed and checked .with the estimates that have
fllso been made for the same sites by the engineers of Los Angeles County
anitation District. I am sure the Council appreciates that this whole subject
has been under constant study by County engineers and Sanitation for many years
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Page Twenty -.Five
We started with the information they had already developed and did more
local work ourselves but the conclusions we reached, which are estimates and
projections, are consistent with John Parkerls own projections for the
future, he being the Chief Engineer and General Manager of the County
Sanitation District which does operate a number of land fill sites within
the County.
It is pretty difficult, almost
impossible, to say how long something is going to last. People that are.
best at this are successful and the others aren't. All I can say is that
our projections are consistent with those of the County, You can find any
set of figures that you like if you look for them.
If we are talking about the 12-year
period, I think my statements were
along the line that it is quite feasible to fill these two sites within the
designated 12-year period which was, as far as I remember, established from
another basiso No one can say that because of the business competition
nature of this operation precisely how much of the revenues will come
within a quarter of a million, half a million, how much from 20 miles away
and so on. However, our projections do indicate that it is feasible and
competitive from a business point of view to expect that these sites can be,
operated and they will have great" value to the City as well as to the
• region surrounding the City,
Councilman Heath.* MrO Ludwig, I believe that you were
quoted tonight as saying that you
know of no new method of disposalo The Los Angeles County Sanitation
District, of which Mr. Barnes and I are directors, have told us that they
have heard of no new method of disposal and don't know that there will be
any for a few years at leasto Are you in agreement with that statement that
there has been no new method of disposal?
Dr. Harvey Ludwig.* I am familiar with it and what one
gentleman said earlier here hurt
my feelings slightly but I am a member of a group doing a great deal of
research in the development of new methods of refuse disposal, I also have
been a consultant and from time to time to Mro Thorson, whose name was
mentioned earlier, and there have been new methods developed and these have,
been tried on the pilot scale and experimental scale at various places.
However, all of these methods are much more costly than sanitary land filling
where suitable sites are available and so far on the horizon, there is
nothing in the offing that even begins to compete with sanitary land filling
and this is why the County Sanitation Districts have made all their
projections going way into the year of 2,000 based on continuing the use
of sanitary land fills.
Councilman Snyder: If it is true that you cannot put a
18-hole golf course on 71 acres,
. then it is feasible that the area of the golf course could extend beyond the
area of the dump, is that right?
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Mr.,,, Graham Ritchie: I -:think it was also our intention
to do soo We originally were..
talking about 98 acres. That land is still available although they are not
Involved in the cut and fill operation
Mr, John McIntyre: The National Golf Foundation•.on
flat terrain recommends between 90
and 100 acres for a 18-hole, par 72 golf course,, On hillside terrain such as
this area, the correct acreage was properly stated, approximately 140 to
160 acres,, However, on our initial plan submitted which included two other
facilities,.we had a completely flat golf course laid out within -.a 120 acres
site which met the National Golf Foundation minimum.standards,, I believe
this answers the question,,
Voice: Let the record 'show that included the
other two dump sites',,
Councilman Towner: I have -no questions,,
Councilman Jett: I have no questions.,,
Mayor Barnes: I would.like to know, Mr,, Lockhart,
if this was approved, would Home
• Savings and Loan be willing to enter into a joint agreement.with the City of
West Covina along with the Sanitation District for control purposes?
Mr,, Lockhart: Yes, we would,,
Mr,, Harvey Krieger: You keep bringing out new evidence
Mayor Barnes:
Mro Harvey Krieger:
Mayor Barnes:
question and the answer, do you not?
Mr,, Harvey Krieger:
and how am I supposed to fight this?
I just asked a question that I
wanted answered for your benefit,,
I want to ask�a question for my
benefit,,
This could goon all night,, I
think you get the benefit of my
I understood your question and I
understood the.answer,,
Mayor Barnes: The reason I asked this question,
Mr. Krieger; is I had occasion to
talk. to John Parkhurst, Chief Engineer for the Sanitation District of Los
Angeles County and I asked him for the joint powers agreement with the
Los Angeles County and Glendale of which I have a Copy and Mr. Aiassa has
this. I read this and I fee],it was one of the best controls we could
possibly 'get. I think there is 24-hour ngt.ice that if anything goes wrong.
that either one of these .can cut off this operation.- which is the Sanitation
District, the City of West Covina or maybe even Home Savings and Loan, but
this I doubt,, It gives us a better control,,
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, 71 - Continued
• Mr. Harvey Krieger: _ Has the City Attorney given. the.
Council the benefit of his pro-
fessional advise on the joint power agreement between a governmental
agency and a private party?
Mayor Barnes:
Mr. Harvey Krieger: '
District and the City of Glendale.
agreement.
I don't know but I feel it is
working very well in the City,of.
Glendale.
There are three.governmental agen-
cies, the County, the Sanitation
There. is no private.party in that
City Attorney, Mr. Williams: I don't think there can be a joint
powers agreement where these three
parties jointly operate it but there could be a lease by one and a joint
operation by the other..two or something to that effecto
Councilman Heath:
For the purpose of policing?
City Attorney, Mr. Williams: You don't know joint powers for the
purposes of policing. If it is
•not within West Covina you don't have any police power over it whether you
enter into a joint powers agreement or not.
Councilman Snyder: I am ready for comment if all
questions have been answered.
A lot has been said in the last
weeks about the Council being swayed by pressure raised in the name of "new
evidence". These has been a lot of misinformation passed aroundo To
correct the record, I would like to state right now that this hearing was
held over.or re -opened at the initiative of this Council. We never were
approached or pressured by Home Savings and Loan after the end of the last
hearing. I, for one, felt that we had voted too hastily on incomplete
information at that time and felt real strongly that possibly we had lost
an area of vast and immense potential to the future of this City. In re -
...:,.,.opening this hearing we believe that our responsibility was to all the
people of this City and that we should do everything possible to find a
.reasonable solution. It was in this spirit and with this in mind that this
question was re -opened and it is in this spirit that we have considered
these questions. Again'I must say that our concern must be for all the
people of this City and our decision should be based upon that thought.
The City now is rapidly growing to
the point where our population is saturated. We need to find places to put
these new things which may come into the City, unforeseen things, things that
are seen but which we need and have no place to put them. Who is to say
• in 1,500 acres of open land that it will all be developed as planned now?
Again I would like to say that this annexation offers vast potential to find
places to put trade, industry and other opportunities for our citizens and
our children. Since we are now filled with our population, we need to
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• round out our City,, make it abetter place in which to live. She need these
things such as trade, industry; we also need to hdlude-recreation and
cultural facilities and right now we do not have space for these without.
additional land.
In geography and population we are
the heartland of this Valley. We have to look pant the undesirable problems
of a dump,,.the dust, the smells if there is such and I do not believe there
will be such,, beyond that to see what will be there after these are filled.
I believe that we .have the ability to do 4.to T believe we intend to do it
This hearing was reopened because
of what I Feel was valid new evidence. The opposition has claimed that there
was no new evidence offered. Any main reason for voting against these dumps
at .the first hearing w'as the problem of traffioo If anybody can state that
a new traffic pattern brought all the way from Valley Boulevard is not new
evidence, -I would .like to understand their reasoning because l just cannoto
I think the new contour model also shows more graphically how high the ride.
1s between the dumps and the homes to the north° 1-don't know how you could
better'buffer a dump or anything else by'placing it three-quarters of a
:Wile away from hoses and putting a 500-foot ,tall between it and the homes,,
I think the possibility which was
not brought out at the first hearing of acquiring a,20 acre park at the
end of three years is also.valid new evidence,,..something for.the citizens of
this City,, Something for us to consider. Also,, at the first hearing it was
stated that:there here. -other alternatives,, that they could do something
else Frith these hills, No one has come up with anyo
The opponents in effect say they
do not want dumps, let the annexation go, I submit this is an irresponsible
attitude, It does not take into consideration the future of this City, the
stability of:this City,, the security and opportunity for the.children and
the people who live here.
I. think we should approve the
request for the dumps now.not because so much the need for the dumps,, the
announced purpose for this is not so much to get into the dump business,, it
is to be able to develop these hills, to make them usable,, something
beautiful,, something usable, to make the whole area more aecessibleo I
think the traffic problem leas been solved. 1 think they have never given
valid evidence that the smell or the dust Is._a valid opposition. I have no
more to say at this time..
Councilman Neath4 .1 think the.audience could show a
little.courtesy to let people
explain their vlewso I think that courtesy should be extended,
I cannot completely disregard this
lawsuit altogether • Uihough I will sey.that it is not a hatchet.over my head, I have tried`to point put to you the history of this annexation smO
approximately where .we stand, I think the same way Dr. Snyder does andif
yqu takethe attitude of.forgetting the"annexation and.letting it go,,
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•
I think this is a very irresponsible statement -because. don't you think far-.....
one minute the City of Walnut would not like to grab that and I can assure
you they will,, The City of Walnut does not forget the 158 annexation where
we put a cemetary right adjacent to.their property and the Council in West
Covina turned a deaf ear; and the City of Walnut doesn't forget the time
when the City of West.Covina tried to.run an annexation through.the center
of their area and kill their city and they would love to return the favor,,
If you think that this annexation is ever lost,, that Walnut wouldn't plan
a dump within 50 feet of a boundary line,, you're kidding yourselves,,
However,, I think we should look at some other facts,, One fact that stands
out most prominent in my mind is if these land refills were put into this
area Home. Savings and Loan are going to build homes closer.to it than what
any homes in existence at the present time. If you.are.going to.lose,, they
are going to lose tenfold and I don't think that they.are going to go to
something,where they are going to cut their own throat,, Right along the same
line, I think we ought to look at one other thing. There has been discussion
back and forth here tonight whether there is a need for:.a dumpo For the
people who said there is no need,, if there is no need.the dump will operate
for a short period of time, it will not be able to sustain itself and it
will have to be closed. They are not going to operate at a loss,, So the
necessity is going to determine if there is a need and if.there is no need
and no necessity it will close itself,, On the other hand, if there is a
reed for it., it will continue,, I think this is the best proof. We have
•`control over this dump where we can police it,, where it can be stopped on a
few moments notice if there is a violation of health and safety,,. our
Planning Commission has made a study of it and recommended to be even more
liberal than the Council,,
If we go a little further,, if we
take the advice of two gentlemen.of the highest character where they
recommend that this be settled in favor of the land fill., they have been
closer to it and we go one step .further and look into the preliminary
designs on this area that was made before I came on the Council where it
calls for a land refill., and also at that time was discussed a cemetary,,
this dates way back,, I feel that the plan has a problem property in two
areas and all he is doing is asking for relief to permit him to fill those
and take care of those problems at no detriment to other people because
those land areas will be out of the sight of the people., they will be out
of the sight of the noise and out of the sight of the smell,,
I have been to the Shoal Canyon
Dump and there was no smell,, We got in direct.line with the bulldozers.
at approximately a mile and a half away and the noise was very hard to
distinguish,,
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Towner:
evidence whi',-,k was
Could we take a short recess at this
time?
(Short recess')
I agree that this matter was re-
opened on the .basis, of proper new
substantial.and should be considered, I think both
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• parties should be commended by the manner in which they have approached this
matter and provided the Council with full -inforination, .-Although there is
considerable emotion involved.in the situation I think that both sides.have
approached it from a rational viewpoint arguing the.merits of -the case,
I would say -that first of all the
question of need for dumpsites is once again presented to us and .again I
find that there is no proof of need for dump sites to service. -the City of
West Covina as such, Further than that, I think it is,true and that the
evidence fails to show that there is a need for dump sites even to service
any reasonable surrounding area, -,-It may be that the industrial areas in -the
City of Industry will produce enough refuse that could.use dumpsites of,
this size but I think -if that were true that the City of Industry, being
industrial in character, could provide its own-sites,,l, We have County
Sanitation Districts and they have studied in the.past.the need for dump
sites and have indicated what the future needs will be and if I understand
,the .'information correctly, the needs for the next 25 years.at least are
provided for and within a reasonable perimeter of the City of West Covina,
I therefore feel that this is
something in the nature of a competitive gamble that Home Savings and Loan,
wants to enter into feeling that they can beat their competition and secure
,.the refuse in order to make it economically valuable for them and I think
•they frankly admit this in their presentation, At least it is presented in
their studies.that this is economically feasible in their view.
I think what it boils down to is
that they have about 70.to 80 acres of what they consider -unusable property
out of a total of 19800 acres, whichI'think is a very small percentage,
and even'at.that the 70 to 80 acres, in my view, can be used by fill from
the grading operations for roads and home sites.and at least provide some
useful aspect to it, I think that the question is not open and shut by any
means; the aspect of a lawsuit is one, I think, very realistically considered
in this question before.the Council as indicated by, I believe, Mr, Kayser
in testimony, Home Savings will be -persistent, There is no doubt about it
but if they are turned down here they will approach other jurisdictions and
I think that the chances.; of getting good restrictions in.the event there are
dump sites are greater with the City of West Covina than any other ,juris-
diction, Certainly the County has four supervisors who have no registered
voters that they have to worry about, the City of Walnut has no home sites
in the immediate vicinity and would be more amiable to this sort of thing so
the people who feel they defeat the dump sites.in West Covina and think they
have the battle won, I think they are mistaken,
Nevertheless, I think as far as I
am concerned, I am satisfied in my own mind that the interests of the
existing home owners outweigh the interests of Home Savings and Loan on the
dump sites; these interests are closely balanced because the home sites
that are effected by this are not too many in number, but they are there,
these people built expecting they would have the benefits of the City of
West Covina and I think we should protect them and that benefit,
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• The problem primarily as I see it is
one of noise, I haven't yet seen how this.'noisP will be buffered, this
constant noise of heavy earth -moving equipment day to day, This is the
primary problem as I see it, I think that in the event that the majority
of the Council does decide that they will agree to the dump sites with
restrictions that I would like, Mr, Mayor, at this time to suggest that
the items proposed by Mr, Ritchie in his letter of February 4, 1963 as
acceptable conditions should be accepted without question by the Council and
I would point in particular to Item 6 where the applicant agrees to a
condition that the City may suspend an operation after reasonable notice if
the applicant or its customers create any litter or noise.problems or
traffic condition unreasonably adverse to public safety, I.think that gives
the Council, if it goes for dump sites, reasonable control.
I would think further that they
should be required to improve any roads within the area with some kind of
dust control material and the permanent road access street, Nogales Street,
certainly should be paved with asphalt material. I think the hours of the
operation should be.controlled; I think that the conditions proposed or
recommended, I believe, by our own staff, conditions 1 through 30, a
mimeographed sheet heretofore presented to us9 should be included in one
of these;in addition to those stated there should be that the applicant
be required to dedicate to public use the remaining usable acreage and that
•the number of acres to be dedicated should be specified"and I think that
dedication should be without any restrictions whatsoever,
They have spoken of particular
uses to which quote they will dedicate unquote the property but I have not
yet seen them offer to give this property as an outright dedication for
public use. I think what in effect they are saying, they will put recreation
facilities on the property to be used by the public at a price, a profitable
venture for the applicant and I would prefer to see the City control it by
other means on an absolute dedication, I think that covers what I had to
say,
Mayor Barnes:
Councilman Towner;
sites on this property, what, if any,
dedicate to the City for public use?
Would you like -to ask Mr. Lockhart
this very question at this time?
Yes, Mr, Lockhart, in the event
the Council.were to grant dump
portion of it would you eventually
Mr, Lockhart6 I don't think that we have ever at
any time indicated that we would
dedicate, It came up at one time and we said we would not but it would be
maintained for public purposes,
Councilman Towner: This was my understanding but I
just wanted to clarify it, I have
always urxrstood this to be your viewpoint on it, Therefore, if I understand
you further, you did not intend or offer to give any portion of this property
at all?
Mr, Lockhart.
Yes,
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Page Thirty -Two
Councilman Heath: There is a point somewhere I read
that if'any of this reclamation land
is dedicated it would be credited toward any other parks which the development
would be required to install,
Mr, Lockhart:
That's righto
Councilman Heath: The development has to contribute
either so much per lot or so many
acres of recreation and somewhere in here anything that is in this site
that is dedicated would go toward the park area that would be required to
come from the developer,
Councilman Snyder: Could we 'put this another way? If
the City were to condition it that
you should dedicate 20 acres of the smaller site for a park, would.you
accept this?
Mr,, Lockhart: Yes, we would accept that,
Councilman Snyder: Thank you,
Councilman Jett: Mr, Mayor and members of the Council.
This is.a problem that must be
• resolved by this Council. Believe me, I have spent a lot of time and effort.
trying to arrive at a decision that is for the best benefit of the City of
West Covina, I have lived in West Covina some 15 years or more. I have
had a part in the development of West Covina of which I am very, very proud.
I have helped and had an active part in the.residential development and in
the commercial and industrial development of this City and I can look back
at those developments with pride, I hope I will always be able to look at
those places and be proud.
In the past I have talked to a lot
of people who have come to West Covina to buy a home, I have always pointed
out that it was the City of Beautiful Homes; that we.hope to keep it that
way, I have heard it argued many, many times from our Planning Commissioners,
from our City Council that regardless of what else we do, we must protect
our homes because we are the City of Beautiful Homes,
I just can't ,justify in my mind how
placing of dumps virtually.in the middle of our residential area, which in
the event this took place, these dumps would be virtually in the center of
our residential area, We have heard it expressed that this is the bedroom
of the San Gabriel Valley, I don't want my neighbor throwing his rubbish
down in my bedroom and I don't think that anyone else would appreciate this.
I know this is a rough decision to
make but it must be resolved and it rests upon the shoulders of the Council.
I am sure every man on the Council. • will honestly and sincerely vote the way that he thinks in his opinion is the best for the City of West Covina,. I
know this is the way I intend to cast my vote,
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Page Thirty -Three
• I have not heard very much argument
or discussion in regards to what I feel'_is'one of the.pertinent points and
that is the traffic that will be created by not only trucks but the little
backyard home owners.who will be using these thoroughfares and which is very
necessary, We all have to get rid of our rubbish. This is going to create
a problem in that it will be scattering rubbish all along the way, I speak
advisedly of this because I live on Glendora Avenue and I see these trucks
and these cars going by daily and many times I have had to go out in front of
my home and pick up large pieces of paper, different types of rubbish, rocks,
et cetera, that I felt created a hazard in front of the home, I just can't
help but think of all these people who have moved into West Covina in the
past thinking of West Covina as a City of Beautiful Homes without any thought
of ever having to come out and fight to keep dumps out of the City,
Something was brought out here
tonight that surprised me, that this has been in planning for the past three
or four years, The first I knew anything about it was when it was presented
a few months back. Of course, I am the junior Councilman. Apparently some
of these decisions had been made,.I assume they have, because the letters
that were written to the Council or to the Mayor so stated that former
Councils had determined that this was the best use for this area.
Now, in my former remarks, I asked
if there had been any effort made to determine if this area could be used
for something else other than dump sites. I have not yet heard any remarks
.made of any effort to determine as to the feasibility, the economic ability
to develop this into some other area which I am convinced that it can be done
economically, .profit.ably, both to the proponents and to the City of West
Covina, I think I will leave this for my remarks at this time with the
reservation possibly of adding some additional remarks later on,
Mayor Barnes: I would like to acknowledge all the
many letters I have received from
the people in the area as well as former Mayor and Councilman whose letters
I have read, I received 13 letters in favor and 10.letters in opposition
of which I will make a part of the record as far as,the file is concerned.
I go back to the annexation and the
purpose of the annexation some years ago. We annexed 158 and then we had an
annexation called 160 which we felt would be good for the development of
West Covina which would encompass the mountains to the south, We have always
felt and we wanted to at this time, dump "D" was to be our regional park in
that area which would be very good as far as the City is concerned.
Therefore, this has.not changed, As far as development, I feel that it can
be by time limit development and I believe the developers have agreed to
something like three years on the smaller site and site "B" would not be
started until after site "D" was completed and I think this is a big asset,
,The sites have been cut down considerably and I don't believe that there is
a person in West Covina who could hear this operation; I know they couldn't
• see the operation because I. have been at this operation and I can't see it
from this s1de of the hill, As far as smelling the operation, I stood on
top of Shoal canyon and it was not very bad at that point considering rubbish
and we drove to the nearest homes to this area, which I felt was about a
quarter.of .a mile from where they were operating, and you could hardly hear
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 71 - Continued
those tractors through'those.mountains.up there.With a mountain between you
and.this site I don't see how you could expectto.hear the sound; I don't
think it would be offensive. I think controls could be put on it for the
dust. The reason I have always been for the dump sites is that I,feel that
.they are an asset to the City in future years. I don't think that the City
can think of today or five years from now,, but what will the City be in 20.
to 50 years.from now. Are we going to stop right where our City boundaries
are and not try to.advance or does the City want to advance? The only way
you can advance is if you have something to develop, Therefore,,.you have to
grow if you expect to.be a metropolitan Iarea andyouu.people elect us to .see
that we do grow. I think also we have to look at revenue.for the City over
all and when you add services, we already.have our staff, and. I certainly
want to see West Covina develop with this area because, as it has been
stated,, I think our controls are -much better for the people of West Covina
and even the people of.Valinda and the other areas than.it would be otherwise,,
I feel our standards are higher and I think we can develop.and make the
property adjacent to us more valuableo I don't have anything more to say
on these land fill `sites other than I feel_we need the recreation for the
future population and.I feel in the future years they would probably thank
us for what.we did here tonight if we do approve this. I don't believe in .
a.city just standing and waiting on.someone else to do something for them.
I think you have to take the initiative and I think it is time that'we stood
up.and be counted as far as taking any initiative on this property.
• Councilman Heath: Are these recommended conditions
(indicating). -the ones which the
Planning Commission passed or are these additional ones?
City Manager,, Mr. Aiassao
Mr. Dosh and -Mr. Joseph prepared
these.
Planning Director,, Mr. Joseph. The list you have before you are
the conditions as recommended to
you by the Planning Commission and we added to that the conditions which we
noted to you in our memo of January 14,, 1963 which represented certain
things that the San Dimas Ordinance had that ours did not and other
stipulations that the City Council appeared to want that the Planning Com-
mission resolution did.not cover.
Mayor Barnes I have one other comment,. Council-
man Heath and myself are the
Annexation Committee. On the first time in trying to,get Home Savings and
Loan.to do the things we would like to have done,, we.talked to them on many
occasions,, they met with our Council, the Planning Commission and put
restrictions on this. We have had many,, many meetings and when they
oroposed.that they had some new additions as you have heard here this evening,
roadways and what have you, I appointed.Councilmen Snyder and Towner. This,,
I felt was good because -I felt we needed everyone to be in .on these
negotiations and maybe they could come up with.something we did not.come up
• with, as far as negotiating with Home Savings and Loan. I feel everyone.has
tried their very best to do.the best possible thing they can for the City
and for the people in the City of West Covina adjacent to this development.
Although this is rather lengthy,, I think the restrictions should be read.
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Page Thirty -Five
•
Councilman Heath:
I think so too:
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten:
(Read the
recommended conditions
for sanitary land fill as
described in Unclassified Use Permit Noo 71,)
Councilman Snyder:
It should
be pointed out with the
exception
of items 21 to 32, from
here on these are the added
recommendations of the
staff in addition to the
original,
Mayor Barnes:
I don't agree with No, 14, It says
"daylight
hours" and in the summer
it could go on quite late.
I hesitate.to see this.operating
on Sunday
although I know many do, I
think it could be done
on Saturday by the home
owner if they have any refuse
to haul up there,. I
think -this particular
recommendation should be changed,
Councilman Heath:
The Sunday.would
be mainly for the
home owner-
who has spent Saturday
cutting and hacking away and
uses Sunday to take it.to
the site. I believe
your point.is well taken but
if you remove Sunday you
are -taking. a condition
away from the home owner, I
see your point that on
a Sunday they should shut
• down completely. I.have.no
particular feelings one
way,.or the other,
Councilman Towner: I would comment this, I think if
the dump site is granted that.these
conditions should be applied with the addition that with respect to No, 14
that the operation be six days a week and be closed on Sunday and operate
only during specified hours such as eight to five or whatever hours the
majority of the Councilmen agree on,
Mayor Barnes: I believe they operate longer hours,
like six -thirty to five or six but
in our own pick-up of rubbish we can operate in our commercial areas much
earlier than we can our residential of which we specify seven .o'clock in
the residential but it.can be earlier than that in the commercial area,
City Attorney, Mr, Williams: You compound the traffic problem
if you don't let them start earlier,
Councilman Towner: My proposal was based on the fact
that I'm quite sure there will be
noise from this operation and I think certainly the home owners should be
protected from noise during those hours when they are trying to sleep and
enjoy their family,
Councilman Snyder: I think seven to six would be
reasonable,
• Planning Director Mr, Joseph: I think
Director, A the Shoal Canyon hours are
eight until five,
-Cou e;iiman Snyder:
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Page Thirty -Six
Mr, Harvey Ludwig: I am not positive as to the starting
hour but- I'm sure it is before eight
o°clocko It is based on the longest length to haul from the canyon. This
in turn is getting the maximum utilization of the eight -hour work day not
only for the truck drivers but for the pick-up people involved, The real
restriction is that it all be done during the daylight hours primarily in
order to insure that the cover be put on every day before it gets dark.
Councilman Snyder: Also the.evening hours are determined
by the fact that the dump operator
will have to suspend receiving material at a certain time in order to be
able to cover it,
Mayor Barnes: I wonder if it would be agreeable to
say that we.operate the same hours
as the Shoal Canyon operationo I think this is a very good operation and
they have worked out all those details and I think Mr. Aiassa can find it
out for us, If the applicant is'agreeable, this has all been worked out
ahead of time as far as the time is concerned but I do.believe we should be
closed on Sunday,
Councilman Towner: I have some further questions with
respect to the proposed conditions,
•Item 4, I think it would be wise to add that the access roads be improved
in such a manner either by asphault paving or other more acceptable --
Councilman Heath: That is called out in here, (Read
Item 7.)
Councilman Towner: It would appear to me certainly
that there should be no objection
to some means of improvement here and I would suggest that asphault paving
on certain portions of it be considered particularly if you are going to
permit an access from Pass and Covina,
Councilman Heath: I think certain portions should be
but I think to require all of it,
I think we could be getting in trouble because they move these roads when
they move to a different area,
Councilman Towner: I don't mean all of them but those
that are near the outer access
points,
Councilman Heath: That I think could be negotiated
to make it conform with Item 7,
Councilman Snyder: It would have to be by precise plan
oanyway,
Councilman Towner: With respect to Item 201, it provides
for an inspection fee schedule to
cover the cost and expense of adequate inspections by the City Engineer and
there is an Item 27 that says with reference to Condition No. 19 which I
think may be a misreference,
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO,, 71 - Continued
City Attorney, Mr. Williams: It should be 13. It relates to the
fees that_are.charged.
Councilman Towner: All right. My request reverts back
t'o Item 20 on the fees to be charged
by the City. Apparently the only fee to be charged is to cover our actual
cost of inspection by the City Engineer. It occurs to me that the ordinary
businessman in West Covina has to have a business license fee and it seems
apprupriate that they should be required a fee that would be of some revenue
to the City. I think it would be understood that the City retain the right
to have some revenue out of this operation.
Councilman Snyder: I would agree with this but I
think we need studies if this is
granted. There is nothing to prevent us from establishing this later but we
do not have enough information to determine those fees tonight or write the
ordinance. I.think the staff should be directed to come up with a study
recommending fees and means of policing.
Councilman Heath:
Councilman Towner:
• the operation of.a dump site.
We can set the fee for a license
later on --
So long as it is understood that the
City retain the right for a fee for
With relation to Item 29, ultimate
use, apparently, if I read this correctly, it is somewhat hard for me to
interpret what is meant here. Apparently the only thing that is required
here is they agree they will set aside one 20-acre site which.the City may
purchase. Is this the intent of that Item 29?
Councilman Snyder:
No. This is to dedicate to the City.
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: Mr. Dosh and I were going over these
conditions referring back to what
the City Council wants in this area and it was not felt the area should be
set aside for eventual purchase by the City. The General Plan adopted by the
City Council has presented certain criteria for the amount of open space to
serve a certain number of people and according to this criteria, 20,000 people
who will be occupying this area will require a minimum of 20 acres for a
community park in addition to the normal amount of neighborhood parks and it
is proposed by this condition that the 20-acre park be given to the City
on these dump facilities as was brought up in your previous condition.
Mr. Lockhart: This is what I said to the doctor.
It is agreed.
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: We did not suggest that the City buy
0 it.
Councilman Towner:
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Do I understand you are agreeable to
dedicating this without cost to the
City?
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UNCLASSIFIEDUSE PERMIT NO, 71 W Continued
Mr, Lockhart: That's right,
Councilman Towner: I have a further suggestion, that
we have a lot of acreage here that
has been indicated as a nice golf course site and should be a public golf
course, and I think if I'recall City Manager's articles in this connection
that the municipal golf courses are revenue producing facilities which
certainly.the City should look into. It may be possible to include in these
conditions something in the nature of an agreement with the applicant that
upon request.to the City they will sell to us adequate acreage for a 18®hole
golf course and reasonable payment thereof to be derived from,,the fees
received by.the.City for the operation of the dump.siteso. I think the City
should give.serious consideration to this type of agreement,
Mayor Barnes: I asked at the last meeting if this
would be:a municipal golf course
and the statement was yes,
Councilman Towner: It was said that it would be a
public which means only it would be
open to the public. I am suggesting going further than this, that the
applicant agree to sell to the City if the City desires to purchase its
adequate land for a municipally owned golf course under a payment arrangement
•where payment be made out of the fees derived from the dump site, What is
your reaction.Mro Lockhart?
Mr, Lockhart: You are bringing up things now we
have never even given consideration
to, This is something.I can."t answer at this timeo
Mr; Graham Ritchie: You do have the power of condemnation
and if you take up enough money out
of the operation of the dumps you are home free and there is nothing we
can -- we can't do.anything about it,
Councilman Towner: I have the further suggestion that
added to the proposal by our staff
that we also include all conditions proposed by Mr, Ritchie in his letter
of February.4,,1963 as a part of these conditions and I would suggest further
that in connection with Item 6 contained in those conditions that we add
instead of reasonable notice, that this may not be decided tonight butI had
in mind a 10-day notice and would add the words "unreasonably adverse to
public safety, health or welfare", This is Item 6 in the letter of
February 4 of Mr, Ritchie, Those six items should be included as part of
the conditions suggested by the staff,
Councilman Snyder: If there are no further comments,
I would like to propose a motion,
• Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, that Unclassified
Use Permit No, 71 be approved subject to the following conditions:
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, 71 - Continued
• (1). That this be subject to all the conditions of the Planning
Commission with the additional conditions as enumerated
in the report of the staff read earlier this evening;
(2) That this additional condition be added in Item 29.- That
it is understood that this 20-acre site or more be dedicated.
at no cost to the'City;
(3) That a Condition No,, 31 be added to read as follows.- That
the applicants provide and maintain an ingress and egress
of at least two lanes of asphalt or other suitable dust -free
material from Nogales Street to the subject site over the
easterly portion of the applicant's property and shall use
this.access exclusively until such time as access becomes
available via Azusa Avenue;
(4) That.with regard to the large dump site, there shall be
added.the requirement that all motorized equipment shall.be
muffled..to the maximum extent compatable with its efficient
use;
(5) That the ridge further to the north of the subject site
shall not be reduced or graded down until the land fill sites
have been completed but shall remain as a natural barrier to
the land fill operation;
(6) That the larger dump site shall be for golf courses or other
.public recreational use and either privately operated or
dedicated to the public; and
(7) That all items enumerated in Mr, Graham Ritchie's letter
of February 4, 1963 be included and that Item 6 thereof
in reference only to "public safety" the words "health or
welfare" should be added so it would read 110 0 o public
safety, health or welfare".
Motion passed.on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: Councilmen Jett, Towner
Absents None
Councilman Snyder: I would like to suggest a second
motion..
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the staff be directed to propose plans of policing and supervising
dump.`s`tes with a study as to suggested fee schedules and suggested
licensing schedules.
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HEARINGS - Continued
(Mrs. Merry left the chambers at 12:05 A.M.)
UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 70
Home Savings and Loan Association
APPROVED
Mayor Barnes:
IN FAVOR
LOCATION: Easterly of Pass and
Covina between Valley
Boulevard and Francisquito
Avenue,,
REQUEST: Cemetary and accompanying
use,
This is the time and place for the
public hearing.
Mr. Graham Ritchie: Some of the general remarks which I
made with respect to the last case
apply equally to this one, certainly in connection with the economic
development and the facts and figures which we offered to you. The same
picture can go in.evidence in this application and the same relief map is
offered to the Council.
Very briefly, the original memorial
park site as proposed to the Council was 150 acres; it included this corner
property and a strip up the side of the property here up to this point
(indicating). We entered into negotiations with the Rowland Elementary
School District and we have agreed to sell this corner property outlined here
and this severs the portion which was originally here from the proposed
memorial park.and we have deleted that portion from our application and we
have also deleted the corner property from our application. We have thereby
reduced from 150 acres to 120 acres and in doing so we have removed, in
terms of adjoining properties, more than half of the properties fronting on
or adjoining the original proposed memorial park and we feel this is a
substantial reduction in both the size of the park and also in the number of
people who could be effected in any way by it. The Rowland School District
is sufficiently satisifed with this decision and will develop a school on
a site immediately abutting the memorial park.
Again, on'the word "cemetary" before
the opponents. this is not intended to be a cemetary in the sense of
tombstones; it.is, in fact, to be a memorial park and if the Council grants
it the Council should insist that it be operated as a memorial park -and
that they do not have anv.headstones other than.plates in the ground and that
it be conducted in other ways in the same fashion, it should be developed
in trees, greenery, drives and the sites marked only with the normal plate
that is placed in the ground. We have agreed that the only access to the
property, to the memorial park will be from entirely within our own
development, that the rest of the park will be entirely closed with a masonry
• wall of a size to be determined by the City Council, that the only entrance
will be guarded by a 24-hour gate and an information booth and an attendant
on duty at all times. There will be no way to get into the park except
through that entrance, served from roads entirely within the development.
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Page Forty -One
Wherever the Council determines, in
its best judgment, that the wall should be placed, the applicant will
landscape the'p_ ropert'both inside and outside the wall so you will not
have a'stark masonry wall but one that is landscaped and protected by trees
and bushes some,of which that will grow to a higher height than the wall
itself so that anybody who is close to the development will be able to see
the wall, the landscaping, and in the distance they will see rolling
greenery and trees. They will not be immediately adjacent t.o any of the
activities of the memorial park.
I think.that something that is
sometimes lost sight of is that a memorial park of this type, far from
being any sense of.detriment to a community is, in fact, a real asset to
the community.because not only does it provide a community of this size
with a place ,to bury its dead, which is certainly a need that cannot be
laughed off or pushed onto some other community, but it can also be a
real tourist attraction'. What you are going to have here are well designed
chapels, a statuary, you will probably have some type of an art museum,
something in short that the people operating it will want to be desirable
so people will want to come and see it and be happy to use the facility,,
We feel, if operated properly and t-he proper conditions placed upon it, it
can be a real asset to'this community. We feel it is a needed asset,,
Again, I think the staff made a
• rather thorough study of similar facilities in the area and drew some
conclusions with respect to need. We feel there is a need for this type
of development,, We feel that the insertion of an additional approximately
16 to.18 thousand.people on this parcel alone and the same or more on the
adjacent parcel will in itself provide some type of need for this facility
which is not being.served at the present time,, Its main attraction will be
that it is close by; that it is a facility that can be used by the people
in the area; they will not have to travel long distances to use it. We
feel it is a good development, We feel we have made substantial changes
in it. We feel many of the objections that originally existed have been
removed. We feel that the Council has the power and the duty to, if they
decide'that the site is reasonable, to impose upon it proper restrictions
and to discuss with us tonight and come to some conclusion as to the type
of wall they would require of us, the type of setback they would suggest
and some agreement.as to the landscaping so you will know what is going in
there and there -will be placed adequate protections on it,, That is our
proposal as it.stands now,,
IN OPPOSITION
Mr,, James P,,_Craig Members of the Council. We do not
450 Doverdale Avenue question the right of the City
.La Puente Council to hear any new evidence
presented by the applicant on this
•proposed cemetary. We fully understand it is your legal obligation to
everyone concerned..We do object to the so-called new evidence that was
used to re -open this hearing. Mainly, the recent announcement by Home
Savings and Loan that the Rowland School District is in the process of
...purchasing a:-�parcel of this land,, Mr. Oswald of this Rowland School District
..is here tonightto present facts regarding .this purchase At this time I
would like to present Mr,, Stanley G. Oswald, Assistant Superintendant of
Business for the Rowland School District,,
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UNCLASSIFIED USE.`PERMIT NOo 70 - Continued
Page Forty -Two
Mr, Stanley Go Oswald I have been given several questions
810 West Spruce Street by the Home Improvement Association
West Covina among these on what date was the
resolution for this school district
signed by the Rowland School Board of Trustees. This original resolution
was signed November 2, 1961. Second, when was the property first investi-
gated as a possible school site? This was also started in 1961, Has the
City of West Covina approved the physical plot layout and location for this
school and the answer is yes,, It was approved on February 6, 1963,,
I think some of the other questions,
as Mr. Ritchie has pointed,out, the school district as such has not been
opposed of the -location of,the cemetary; however, Home Savings and Loan was
notified that we did want a school site at this location in July of 1962
so that the school site has been in progress, we are in escrow, we are
agreed on the price and.that the location is a good one from the standpoint
of the school district and both existing and potential location of homes,,
Councilman Heath: It is true then evidently that
Home Savings knew of this informa-
tion about a school site prior to the first public hearing on the cemetary.
uses?
Mr,, Stanley G. Oswald: This is true,, Our Board of •
Trustees met with representatives
. from Home Savings and Loan, I think, in July of 1962,
Councilman Heath:
about it, so it was not presented and it
It was not presented at the first
hearing even though they knew
is new evidence, is it not?
Mr,, Stanley G. Oswald: This information was brought out
at the first hearing at the Planning
Commission meeting,, There was a question raised at that time as to
w h e r e .the exact location of the proposed school site was to be and how large
it was,, It was pointed out to the Planning Commission at the first public
hearing,
Councilman Heath: I was trying to bring out that the
fact that the school location on this
site was new to us at this hearing, it was not brought out at the previous
Council meeting so it is new evidence as far as we are concerned,,
Mr,, James P. Craig: Was this information conveniently
left out as a reason to re -open a
hearing if their first proposal was turned down or did this billion dollar
corporation think that they were not.goinp, to let the school district buy
this land? Has the reason for this cemetery changed because the school is
being put in there? Mr. Ritchie made the statement that 50% of the homes
•would not be effected by the elimination of the 30 acres,, Now, I diagree
with this.statement here. On this relief map here they haven't drawn the
streets in that will be effected up here and this school location is in
error, It would extend farther this way (indicating,,). Now, these people
living in this area will be able to look through here and see it,, All of
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Page Forty -Three
these people in.here Mr. Ritchie stated that would be in the distance. It is
not in the -distance, I live here (indicating) and we can see anybody walking
on this, we can.see everything that happens on this hill and it is not in
the distance,. I.would like to give the Council the plot layout of the _
school and this.is just a rough copy of where that location will goo It is
right to say that the school will prevent the _cemetary from abutting to the
backs of some of the homes but what about the balance of the cemetary and
what about the rest of the homes? These people that are living in this
area do not want this cemetary and should not'be forced to accept;it, Home
Savings and Loanhascompletely disregarded the feeling of.these people;
they have insulted us; defamed our homes and infringed on our home environment
Home Savings and Loan are in the business of finance and not in the cemetary
business,The school is not a valid reason for you to reverse your decision
of January 14th, The withdrawing of 30 acres does not change its original
purpose and that -because the number of people effected has been slightly
reduced the fact.remains there is no need for a.cemetary except to act as
a wall of segregation. We do.not want this cemetary. We ask you to deny
Home Savings and Loan to notbe able to develop this cemetaryo
Mr, John J, White I hope by this time it can be
422 South Jellick Avenue clearly seen that the school issue
La Puente is not new evidence to Home Savings
and Loan, At this time I would
• like to bring forward Mr, Jerry Salgato who is our authority on topography
and will present a profile map for your inspection, (Map placed on the
board,) Mr. Salgato will explain this to you,
Mr, Jerry Salgato I have obtained the latest
338 South Palamos Avenue topographic map that shows the
La Puente area east of Pass and Covina Road
from the U. S. Geological Survey
Office in Los Angeles, From this map I have drawn three profiles -of the
cemetary and the adjacent areas. These profiles, A. B and C are cross
sections, 5,000 feet, 4,000 feet and 3,000 feet west of Nogales Street
respectively, Examining the three profiles you will notice that from the
southern boundary line to the northern cemetary boundary line the ground
surface raises in elevation. The highest is at least 100 feet or more above
our homes, You.can see that from the northern cemetary boundary line and
in the direction of Homes development the ground surface elevation drops
and it is impossible for people to the north to see this sloping green
buffer, However, people to the south of the cemetary can see the green
buffer in all three profiles,
The proponent proposed a 30-foot
setback and a beautiful wall and I say should a wall be erected or tall
trees planted on a setback of 100.feet from the southern boundary line,
residents in our area would still be able to see this green cemetary, There
seems to be an.error on this scale model. The streets seem to be placed
. a little west of Nogales Street,
Mr, John J. Whites I have
I think
pictures taken from a residential street in our'
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some pictures here that
will interest you; four
area to show how these
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hills loom above our homes, (Passed four photographs to the Council,,) These
other pictures are taken from Laseda Grammar School and children's playground
which is so labeled on the map, At this point the hills rise abruptly,, This
..is the steepest portion of the proposed cemetary,, (Passed four photographs
to the Council,,)
Gentlemen, the next set of pictures
is from Nogales High School which directly abuts the area in question. The
view here is fantastic, As you can clearly see on the pictures, from the
profile map and.from Home's beautiful layout here that. .'these hills are,
rolling and they are.fairly steep. I would like to talk about Rosehills;
the area is similar,. Up there many things have happened and happen every
day,, One of these is a threat due to the fact that vehicles, heavy earth
moving equipment and even visitor's cars come crashing down these hills.
I contend no barrier built can withstand the impact of a heavy earth moving
equipment,, Also, you can see no trees; no wall; nothing can hide -the
cemetary from view, Along the southern boundary is a street with homes,
children playing in the backyards,, Think what would happen if an earth
mover came down and through the.barrier and into that yard,,
If the cemetary would go in, a
psychological danger exists and at this time I would like to quote from a
letter from Dr. Buelley of San Diego,, (Read said letter,) This is one of
•several letters. I believe you gentlemen have some of them and can read
this for yourself.
As for need, we have heard pro and
con,,.We know there are at least 18 cemetaries in the area. If we only had
one, Rosehills, it would take care of us for many years to come,, In
.closing, I would like to summarize briefly,, We have seen the map, we know
the lay of the land, we know the danger that exists and I believe Mr. Heath
made a statement that Home would not do anyting to endanger this development;
this can be plainly seen.from these maps, in our area we can always see this
cemetary; in the.Home's development, the only way the people will know the
cemetary is there is if they are given free lots to entice them to buy in
the area, The school will not buffer 50% of the area,, Our homes and our.
children are the utmost importance to us and a letter from the doctor
clearly states.that a psychological danger is nothing to be ignored,, I
also contend that a memorial park and cemetary are one and the same,, Head-
stones are.not used today,,
I.wish to thank you for allowing
me to be here and I ask you to please do the only thing for the beautiful
City of West Covina and turn this cemetary proposal down,,
Mr,, Carlos A. Reese
1810 East Lonica Street
La Puente
I want to bring
from the people
appeal is first
Dr. Snyder,
one final appeal
In our area. Our
directed to you,
The applicant states that the
Giano School will eliminate one half of the homes involved in objection to
the cemetary. If this were true, what of the other 50%? In your profession,
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• doctor, if it was easily within your power to save 100 children from a
terrible disease, after you had saved only 50 of them would you stop thinking
you had done your best?
Councilman Heath, there is a
.psychological effect for even you, sir, .recognize ito In the Council Minutes
dated December 26, 1962 on Page 18, Councilman Heath felt that in a matter
of time any psychological effect could be.overcome. Your philosophy seems
to be time will -.heal all wounds9 even this wound against us, sir.,
Councilman Towner, do you recognize
these words? "There is need to make a choice. How shall it be guided? Not,
all of us will make the same choice; not all of us ought to make the same.
What choice is it worthwhile to make when the course if finished, when the
task is ended, when the books are all closed. May the last appraisal of
all values reveal his choice and your choice." These.words were. uttered by
Mr. Justice Cordoza in an address entitled,"Values". May these words help
.you, sir, in reaching your decision tonight.
Councilman Jett, when you learned
that the dump trucks were passing close to your home you raised your voice
in opposition. Would you pretend, sir, just for tonight, that they are
proposing this cemetary next to your home?
• Mayor Barnes, the applicant states'
that they cannot fight an emotional argument.. Sir, this is the only means
at our disposal to fight the establishment of that buffer in our area.
Also, I believe that the applicant should be reminded that this country is
founded on emotional arguments. For example, the Declaration of Independence
by Thomas Jefferson, the Gettysburg Address by Mr. Lincoln, and in a lighter
vein:President Kennedy's challenge that Americans are not physically -fit
to walk 50 miles.
To satisfy possibly your curiosity,
you all know that I wrote a letter to the White Housed I did receive an
answer to it. I would like to state that in this confidential letter I was
told to place my faith upon the integrity of our City Government.
In conclusion, if this cemetary
is established it.will.be more than a memorial park; it will be a symbol
for.all the world to see, a symbol if intolerance, a symbol of a moral crime
perpetrated against the people of our area. Thank you very much.
Mrs.. Rosemarie Theboe I would .1 ike .to express my
18428 Romer Street praise for you in your recent
La Puente stand with Forest Lawn. Also, my
regret that Home Savings and Loan
have put -you in such a precarious situation by threatening you if they do
not get their own way. They have called us many names and inferred that
•becaus;e',rof the poor condition of our property a cemetary-would certainly
enhance -,our area. Don't you think they should have taken it upon themselves
to drop.this cemetary issue as soon as they realized the hurt and anger
of the residem-ts in our area, not to mention the predicament they are
placing you In?
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UNCLASSIFIED USE,.PERMIT'NO. 70 - Continued
• The reason for re -opening this
hearing is the Giano School siteo The only new evidence'I can see is that
Mro Ritchie has a new haircuto Ridiculous? Yes; just as ridiculous as
this whole cemetary issue,, At many times many have proved that there is
no need and that a cemetary would be detrimental to our area,, I hope you
will search your souls and reject this promotional wall of segregationo
REBUTTAL
,Mro Graham Ritchie: I sincerely respect their position,,.
They.don't. want to live -near a
memorial park. They live in an area which I guess is in La Puente What
we have tried to,.do is insofar as it is possible to lessen the impact of
this thing by removing more than 50% of it from surrounding.property owners.
I will concede that people living back in here will probably be able to
see some of this area as it is developed. but they will see grass and trees
and roads and if they have good eyesight they will be able to seethe plates
in the ground,, .As far as the emotional impact upon children is concerned,
their own Rowland School District seems to think that this is c-ompatable and
they are going to place their school immediately abutting this memorial park,,
If anybody is going to see it, those children are going to see it and it
isn't going'to have that kind of an impact on these people,, They are going
to see something that looks pretty.nice. The homes near the Forest Lawn
development,:near the U. So Soldiers' Home, the homes that have gone in
near every memorial park have been nice homes,.
Contrary to their opinion, although
there will certainly be homes in this development that will not have a
view of the memorial park, the proposer.proposes to build along the north
property and some will have a view of the memorial park and will abut it.
I think if properly placed and landscaped it will not be offensive to anyone
and I think that the Council.has the responsibility if it decides to grant.
the permit to decide on what type of landscaping could go in and walls
ghat would make this thing palatable as possible,, We think there is a need
for it,, We think it can be beautiful and we have sufficient confidence
in it.that we are going to build homes abutting it and we have gone so far
as to remove.half the people who were opposed to it as being abutters to
the memorial -park. We have made substantial concessions on this and this
is our proposal.and.I think it can work and should work. I think there are
conditions that the staff recommended that you should consider.
Mayor Barnes:. There being no further public
testimony, I'll declare the hearing
closed.
Councilman Snyder: I think we should have the proposed
conditions by the staff read. -since
there were no conditions set up by the Planning Commission. (Mro Flotten
• read said conditions.)
Councilman Heath:
to three during the week and nine to six
the difference? I can't understand that.
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On No. 159 funeral;'processions
restricted to the -hpurs of nine
on Saturday and Sunday,. What is
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT N0,, 70 _ Continued
Planning Director., a g Mr, Joseph:. The purpose was to restrict the
hours to as small..in number as
possible,, The only reason we extend it on weekends is because this is
the time that many.funerals t,ake place and in view of this fact we
recognized the amount of activity that the memorial park would generate.
During the weekday however., we have received information that more funerals
are held on Saturdays, Sundays and holidays than any other day,,
Councilman Jett:. In the event that this is approved,
I would like to see on No 1 prior
to -this or any development or any part or stage thereof a precise plan of
design shall.be..submitted to the City of West Covina for approval.
Normally a precise plan is approved by our Planning Commission and is final
unless appealed to the Council. In this particular case I would like to
see added to this "approved by the Planning Commission and the City Council"
I think this.._is.something that should be there,,
There is a question in my mind
about the operation'of this by Home Savings and Loan, whether they propose
to operate it themselves or not In the event that they do, I don't believe
that they have ever had any prior experience in the operation of a memorial
park or cemetary as such,,. I would like to see a provision attached
indicated or made that there be a time limit attached to this to establish
a memorial park and that this be limited -to six months or one year's time,
and that if a memorial park'is not established within that time that this
permit be cancelled. Part of the reason for this is in this very same area
there has been zoned for a cemetary for five years approximately 200 acres
and to my knowledge nothing has.been done about that cemetary and in my
opinion there certainly has been no need established for a cemetary in that
area. In this event, I feel that had there have been a need for this
cemetary in that area, I can't help but believe somebody would have taken
over, as hard as it is to get zoning for a cemetary. I feel it should be
established as to who is going to operate it, whether Home Savings and Loan
themselves propose to do this or who is going to be the operators of the
cemetary and in this respect it'was referred to that this would be a beautiful
development., I don't question the financial ability of Home Savings and
Loan to develop this; however, I feel that in the event that someone else
should attempt to develop this they should be required to establish financial
ability to retain -this as a memorial park by the establishment of something:
as little greater than $25,000 that is required by the State which I believe
is the minimum amount required as a deposit to establish a cemetary, I think
a greater amount should be demanded in this case to assure that the proper
maintenance of the memorial park would be there,,
Councilman Snyder: I have some statements to make
about Item 3,, I am not convinced
that a block wall is always the most beautiful.buffering or whatever you
want to call it between properties,, 'It seems to me that I would accept a
block wall,,�Vut I would like to put in there a reasonable appropriate
• screening;i,q'4f hedge or trees,, I have.passed pictures across demonstrating
this at a.68ther:,cemetary in Brea which I had an opportunity -to visit the
other day and I.felt in my own mind that this was much better looking and
very effect;ive screening, more so than a block wall,, I don't think we
should restrict it to a block wall,,
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO, 70 - Continued
• I feel there should be an adequate
setback but I feel that perhaps 75 feet is a little bit too much--- Item
2 -- and that possibly we should reach some compromise between 75 feet and
25 feet, I think if this is granted there should be a landscaping plan.
submitted and..this should be maintained, These are not to be construed as
general comments yet; I am merely speaking on the conditions,,
Councilman Heath: I think if you go to 75 feet you
will be ending up with more
landscaping than .can be taken care of economically and I don't think the
75 feet is needed,
Councilman Towner: Before I comment on these.proposed
restrictions,, I think we�ought
to get to the first question,, as to whether or not we are going to grant
the cemetary, At the last hearing I indicated at that time that. I:_..was
not adverse to the cemetary provided that there,were reasonable restrictions
put on it that -would adequately shield the adjoining home sites, None were
presented at,that.time. I think in connection with placing a cemetary at
this location there is prior experience indicating that once in.that these
things are not..the same problem they are to the people prior to their
putting them in. At the time they put in the Catholic cemetary opposite
the Rowland School -there was quite a battle but the Rowland School District
•and the parents bitterly opposed to -the Catholic cemetary across the -street
from the.school,.. The cemetary permit was granted and the cemetary went in
and developed without screening and since that time,, of course we now
indicate that the Rowland School District knowing that there may possibly
be a cemetary site immediately adjacent to it in this new location and
in addition to that, across from this other cemetary has gone -in very
substantial developments of residences immediately across the street with
no screen whatsoever. I think that people can,adjust to this type of thing,
I think for that reason that I would agree that a cemetary could goiin here
provided.that.the reasonable restrictions are put on it,
The restrictions suggested by our
department appear to be adequate and I would include the fact that the
75-foot setback.and I understood that these restrictions had been pre-
sented to the applicant and that they had agreed to them and I would like
to know about this,
Mr, Graham Ritchie: I wasn't familiar with the 500-foot
building setback requirement from
the masonry wall, I think we had in mind that there would be a setback from
the southern property line but not from the northern which is all our own
property,
Councilman Towner:
• 500 feet from the southern boundary line?
Mr, Graham Ritchie:
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You are agreeing that buildings
could be constructed no less than
We would accept that although I
think the 500 feet is pretty much,,
too,
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UNCLASSIFIED USE.PERMIT NO,, 70 -,Continued
•
.Councilman Heath: How about 400 feet? That is a
.,long distance.
Mr. Graham Ritchie: Let's contend for 300 feet from the
southern boundary and end up
splitting it and saying 400 feet,,
Councilman Towner: In any event, you agree to the
condition of a precise planlof
design?
Mr,, Graham Ritchie: Yes,, Also I am forced to agree
that 75 feet is a little -much
'considering we already,kpo.cked over 30...acres off the property,
Co.uncilman-Towner: Are there any others of these
conditions that you haveany.
comment, on,? I understand that the
conditions are acceptable with'the exception of Nos,, 2 and 5. 75 feet of
landscaping and,the building restriction. It appears to me that this.-
propertyis visible.frbm a distance and that the wall and the landscaping
will substantially screen it from those people who are within a block of
it but if you get off to a distance you will be able to see it. I think
•that as you, get.to adistance that the aspect of a cemetary is lost and
what you see in.eff * ect..is a park so I would think that under these circum-
stahces%that--this kind of restriction would be acceptable...
The restrictions proposed here
provide that they provide adequate landscaping andthe block walla I think
we want to limit access to this site as well as the view and it would appear
to me that the concrete block wall would prevent pedestrian access as well
as. automobile -.access except from the one location,,
Councilman Snyder: This one that. I had pictures of had
chain link and the hedge was outside
of that and you cbuld..not see the chain link.
Councilman Heath: I think that would be as -good a
block wall if not better.,
'Councilman Towner: I have no objection to.that provided
that the chain link is hedged in
.such a manner that it blocks the sight.
Councilman Snyder: That is what I:had.in mind, I
allow.,them the choice.
.Mayor Barnes: I question the hedge because it will
be several years before it would
do any benefit. However. -I think the idea is good if you are going to grant
this.
Councilman Snyder:.
Who'l.says,a block wall is. -so pretty?
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT N0, 70 - Continued
Mayor Barnes: You can put shrubs around a block
wall.
Councilman Snyder: The point I am going to say is
that a block wall may be best but
I don't think we should restrict them,
Councilman Heath: I think so, too, I would think that
the 75 feet is unnecessary and
I think.that it is going to end up into a jungle and'I don't think it will
serve any prrpose to go back 75 feet. You can do the same thing with 30
feet. You can.put a block wall 30 feet back and you will have a better
shield then if you had it 75 feet backo You're just wasting a lot of land.
As far as the building is concerned,
I think 300 feet from the southern boundary is a pretty good distance.
There is only one other thing I
would like.to see and that is that funeral processions be permitted on a
weekday to go from nine to four at least•or possibly five. Those are my
comments on this
Mayor Barnes I think we owe the people at least
• 50 feet of the green area, I can
also see the recommendations of the. Planning Department for asking that the
buildings be set back some 500 feet. Considering the fact that the property
or the cemetary-site is some 800 feet wide at some points and 1,200 feet
at others, this„puts the buildings in the center area of this adjacent to
their development as well as to the people who are in the area, This would
be fair both wayso Also I feel that the chain link is very good fencing
if shrubbery.is put in at a large stage and the growth could be had in a
year or two but I don't believe that this could be accomplished, .Therefore,
I feel that the block wall is important if this is granted.
Councilman Snyder: I want to congratulate the opponents
on the reasonableness and the
eloquence of their opposition. I think the main reason I voted against this
the first time was one of the reasons you opposed to, the purpose of -
buffering as stated before, people.against people was distasteful to me
and not an adequate reason for putting in a cemetary and I don't think Home
Savings meant it that way.. I think they would be willing to apologize for
that, but secondly, I think again the reasonableness and the eloquence of
your opposition has proven that you would be good neighbors to.anybody and
I would like to so state myself.
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Councilman Towner: In connection with the setbacks
and landscaping, the main problem
here is on the..home sites that presently exist along the.southern boundary
of the property. It seems to me at that point you can increase the setback
and increase the landscaping and put in your block wall to provide these
people with as much.protection as possible and then decrease it substantially
as you get out to the other perimeters which face into Home Savings and Loan
property.
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT N0, 70 - Continued
• With respect to the people who are
already there, already own homes here and immediately abut this proposed
development,.I..think they should be provided with at least a minimum of 50
feet.of setback with landscaping installed.and maintained to suit our
Planning Department with the idea that it is a screen.and the block wall be.
put in, too, not only to -screen but limit access and that the balance .of the
boundary be provided.with.landscaping to a minimum of whatever you feel is
adequate and necessary. A frontyard setback is 25 feet so we could go to
that; this is on anything that is not abutting the southern homes,
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My proposal would be that it be
50-foot setback and landscaping along the southern boundary and the school
boundary and the balance of it a 30-foot setback with suitable fencing and
landscaping, As..far as buildings constructed is concerned, I don't know if.
it makes too much difference. If 400 feet'is satisfactory, it.is all right
with me, Unless.there is some objection to this, I am ready to propose a.
motion along these lines,
Councilman Heath: I would assume then that you don't
have too much feeling on the building
setback and that 300 feet might be satisfactory, I don't know what you are
going to gain, A_building is a building and you can see it if you are ten
miles away,, I don't think it will make that much difference here,
Wouncilman Towner: It is not just the building; it is
the activity that also should be
removed and I think a minimum of 400 feet from the south property line would
be adequate,
Mro Graham Ritchie: There will be a street along,the
boundary of the school, Giano
Street will go through,
Councilman Towner: Well, then, just the south boundary
and a 30-foot setback on the street,
Councilman Snyder: I think there is some merit in Mr,
Jett's remarks regarding the fact
that the privileges conferred if this is granted must be utilized within a
certain length of time. I think six months is not reasonable., Perhaps a
year is not reasonable. See how long it takes to get plans through this
Council, but perhaps the privilege conferred must be utilized within two
years, it seems to me that would be a reasonable time to find out if a
cemetary was needed there and secondly, I think it should be added that if
a cemetary use is abandoned for more than one year then the balance of.the
property -- the cemetary use would be null and void, This should be added
to the conditions,
Mayor Barnes: - I think this is a very good point,
I think they should have at least
two years but I think beyond that that some other uses could be made of the
property,
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UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT N0, 70 - Continued
• CouncilmanHeath: What about the quitting time on
weekdays?
Councilman Snyder: I again think that the distasteful
purpose, original purpose has been
.removed and.I think with restrictions this could fit in here,, I think there
should be a time limit on it. We should get started. I think that should
be reasonable and�not.too restrictive,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, to grant the
Unclassified Use Permit No, 70 subject to the following conditions:
(1) That.this be subject to the conditions proposed by the
.Planning Department with the modification of Condition,
No,, 2 that the setback be 50 feet from the south boundary
and 30 feet from all other boundaries;.
(2) That with'respect to Item 3, that the:.decorative block_
wall.be on the 50-foot setback on the south property line
and that a -block wall or other suitable fencing be.on the
30—foot setback around the balance of the property;
(3) That in Item 5, that the item indicated be changed to..
• 400 feet from 500 feet;,
(4) That an additional condition No,, 17 be added that in
the event the property is not committed to cemetary use
within two years from the granting of this unclassified-
use permit that the property reverts to its original use;
(5) That on.Condition No,, 1, add to that that it be submitted
to the City of West Covina and approved by the Planning
Commission and the City Council; and
(6). That if the use is discontinued or abandoned for a period
of one year then the cemetary use is to terminate,
Mayor Barnes: I still feel that this property can
be developed residential and that
it would be a benefit.to the City of West Covina,, I feel that this can be
developed,, It is the leveler land in that area and I think it would be
desirable for homes,
Councilman Jett: I am going to preface�my vote with
this remark: My opinion of the need
in this area fora cemetary has not been established,
Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Heath, Snyder
Noes: Councilman Jett, Mayor Barnes
Absents -None
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PROJECT SS-19
LOCATION: Carvol Avenue from Elgenia
ACCEPT SANITARY SEWER FACILITIES
Avenue to Badillo Street,
PRECISE PLAN NO, 328
MINNEAPOLIS-HONEYWELL
Accept sanitary sewer facilities -
APPROVED
Purchase Order No, 8023, Inspector°s
final report received,
Motion by .Councilman.Heath, seconded by
Councilman Towner, and carried, to
accept sanitary sewer facilities in Precise Plan No, 328, Project SS-19,
PROJECT C-169:
LOCATION: Batelaan Avenue from
APPROVE :PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS
Walnut Creek Wash to
STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENT.
Sylvan Avenue.
APPROVED
Approve plans and specifications for
storm drain Project .C-169, Authorize
City Engineer to call for bids.
Budgeted item 1962-63 Storm Drain &
Flood Control Funds - amount,
$35,000,00 - estimated cost
$339733.70.
• Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded.by
Councilman Towner, and carried, to
approve plans and specifications in Project.
C,-169 and authorize the City
Engineer to call for bids:
RESOLUTION N0, 256-4
The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEPTING A
CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENT AND
DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF"
(Glenn0. & Helen I..Williams)
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
..resolution.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by
Councilman Jett, that said
resolution be adopted, Motion passed on
roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath,
Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2564,
•
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS`' Continued
RESOLUTION NO,, 2565
ADOPTED
Page Fifty -Three
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPROVING A
BOND TO GUARANTEE THE COST OF CERTAIN
IMPROVEMENTS AND THE TIME OF COMPLET-
ION IN PRECISE PLAN NO,, 322 IN SAID
.CITY" (Builcor Corp.)
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we.will waive.
further reading of the body of the
resolution,,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded
by Councilman Snyder., that said.
resolution be adopted. Motion passed
on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2565,
RESOLUTION NO,, 2566
The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEPTING A
CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENT AND
DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF"
(In-Cor Corporation, Covina)
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution,,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded
by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed
on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes,.
Noes-: None
Absent:: None
Said resolution :was given No, 2566,
RESOLUTION NO; 2567
The City Clerk presented.:
ADOPTED
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA DEDICATING
CERTAIN CITY OWNED PROPERTY TO
•
PUBLIC STREET PURPOSES AND ACCEPTING
SAME AS A PUBLIC STREET"(Cameron Ave.)
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution.
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - Continued
• Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adoptedo Motion passed on roll.call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2567.
RESOLUTION -NO. 2568
The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED,.
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEPTING.A
CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENT AND
`
DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF"
(Fred & Miriam Stein)
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution,,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by
Councilman Towner,:that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on
roll call as follows:
•
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath,
Snyder, Mayor Barnesi
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2568.
RESOLUTION_NO, 2569
The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED
"A RESOLUTION OF THE.CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA.ACCEPTING A
CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENT AND
DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF"
(Fred & Miriam Stein)
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution..
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by
Councilman Towner,:that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on
roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath,
Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No,, 2569.
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CITY ATTORNEY
RESOLUTION NO. 2570
The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA GRANTING
APPLICATION FOR UNCLASSIFIED USE
PERMIT NOe 71" (Home Savings & Loan)
(Dump sites)
City Attorney, Mr. Williams:
This grants the filling station uses
and the dump site uses.,,
.Mayor Barnes: ..Hearing
no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by
Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution -be adopted. Motion passed on
roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen HeatYis_ Snyder, Mayor
garnes
Noes:.. Councilmen Jett,.,.Towner
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2570.
RESOLUTION
-NO. 2571
The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA GRANTING
APPLICATION FOR UNCLASSIFIED USE
PERMIT NO. 70" (Home Savings & Loan)
(Cemetery).
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the.body of the
resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath,'seconded by
Councilman Towner, that said
.resolution be adopted. Motion passed on
roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Heath, Snyder<
Noes; -Councilman Jett, Mayor Barnes
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2571.
RESOLUTION NO. 2572
The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING
CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF RESOLUTION NO,
1277 RELATING TO AUTHORIZED
POSITIONS AND SALARIES"
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution,
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Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted., Motion passed on .roll call as follows:
,Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Snyder, -.Mayor Barnes
Noes: Councilman Heath
.Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2572•.
RESOLUTION NO. 2573' The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE"CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST:COVINA GRANTING
APPROVAL OF PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN
NO, 33611 (Houston)
Mayor Barnes: Hearing nosobj.ections, we will waive
further reading -of the body of the
resolution.
Motion by Councilman`Heat.h,seconded by Councilman Jett, that said
:resolution :be. adopted. Motion passed ors roll call as follows:.
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Heath, Mayor Barnes
Noes Councilmen;Towner, Snyder
Absent. - None
Said resolution was given No, 2573..
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
Councilman Snyder:
City Manager, Mr, Aiassa:
City Attorney, Mr. Williams:
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The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE.OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING
THE STANDARD SPECIFICATIONS FOR
STREET IMPROVEMENTS TO REDUCE THE
REQUIRED WIDTH OF SIDEWALKS IN
RESIDENTIAL AREAS"
We had a letter from the City
Engineer asking us to reconsider
this,
I think you ought to hold this until
the 4th,
All right,
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PLANNING COMMISSION
REVIEW PLANNING' COMMISSION ACTION
Held over,
OF FEBRUARY 209 1963
RECREATION'& PARKS
Mayor Barnes:
At this time I would like to state
that Councilman Towner has a
conflict in schedule. He has the East,San
Gabriel Valley Planning Commit#t4
meeting the same night as the Park and
Recreation meets, If there is no
objection, I would like to appoint Councilman
Jett to attend the Park and
:Recreation Commission for the remainder
of Councilman Towner's term, three
months.
Councilman.Jett:
All right. On this first meeting,
I'have another. meeting to attend.
Who is the alternate?
Mayor Barnes:
I'll have to look it up. Mr.
Flotten, will you find out who. the
alternate i=s:and advise him of this meeting?
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten:
Yes.
CITY MANAGER REPORTS
SWEEPER
City;Manager, Mr. Aiassa:.
I would .:like to'submit to the Council
the specifications for.the sweeper,
I want you to read it for. the 4tho
PROJECT C-198 - GLENDORA AVENUE
BARKER PROPERTY
City. Manager, Mr. Aiassa:
We need Council action on this.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by
Councilman Snyder, and carried9
to accept this progress report as the exhibit and instruct the staff to
proceed only up to the existing street of Glendora for the improvements on
Glendora and hold this matter so the Planning Commission can have proper
.
hearings for a new alignment for Cameron Avenue Interchange..
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CITY CLERK
Page Fifty -Eight
• NATIONAL SEAT BELT MONTH
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: 'We have a request for a temporary
use permit from the West Covina
Exchange Club.and it is an applicati.on for permission to install seat belts
for autos,:a.non-profit.drive, culminating a month of advertising of the
National Seat Belt.Month at the National,Safety Council, They will sell
them in the Plaza at cost and install -them right on the spot.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that
the West Covina ExchangeClubbe given permission to install seat belts for
.autos, a non-profit drive,
DIRECTIONAL SIGNS
MT.. SAC
City Clerk, Mr, Flotten: We have a.request from the Chamber
of Commerce to consider Mt. Sac's
request for an application to put directional signs.directing attention to
the games to be held at Mt, Sac, They are asking for four locationso
City Manager, Mro Aiassa: We make one sign,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried, that
they be given,permission subject to the :approval of the City staff,
PLANT A TREE WEEK
'e"Councilman Heath: Will you proclaim Plant A Tree Week?
It's the first week in March,
Mayor Barnes: If there are no objections, I will
so. proclaim,
So proclaimed,
VACANT PROPERTY
Councilman Jett: I received a call from a party three
or four days ago and I believe,
they.have since then or are going to file a request with.the Planning Com-
mission for approval, but it is from Mr; Danielson who owns the McDaniel's
Markets and it is in reference to this vacant building that has been sitting
• out here that is a headache. This is on Hollenbeck there on th-e. Freeway,,
They have,a,.firm lease drawn subject to getting approval by the -Council
or the Planning Commission and whatever is necessary to put in an ice
skating rink. They would have sporting events in here and they would fix
it up and they wanted -to know would we.look favorably upon this because they
wanted to move on this,
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VACANT PROPERTY - Continued
• Planning Director, Mr, Joseph: We encouraged them. I don't know
what the Planning Commission is
going to say,,. The Planning Department indicated to them they would have to
file for an unclassifie.d.use permit and a precise plan. We gave them the
application forms and told them how to fill it.out.and the staff thinks this
is a.good location for such use.
Councilman Snyder: -Is It 'an.accepted use in this zone?
Planning Director,Mro Joseph: It is permissive.
Councilman Heath:. I wouldn't predetermine a case but
I would have no objection.,
INTERNAL REVENUE OFFICE
GROUND BREAKING
Mayor. Barnes:
There will be a ground`�breaking
for 'the West Covina. Internal: :
Revenue Office at
421 South
Glendora at 10:00 AOM, on Wednesday,.the.27tho..
-.4Who would like to
attend?
• Councilman, -Snyder:
I'll go,,
Councilman Jett:
It11 goo
Councilman Heath:.
I can't make:ito
Councilnian:Towner:
I'm not able to make it.
Mayor Barnes:
I'll inform.Mr, Thomas Smith, who
called me today, that you two
gentlemen will.be
there. I
will be -unable to make it-0
Councilman Snyder:
Could I have a written notice of
this?
City'Manager, Mr,
Aiassa:
Yes,
DEMANDS
Motion -by Councilman -.Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, to.approve
demands totalling $1009071.11 as listed.on demand sheets B121, B122 and
C2900 This -total includes fund transfers. of $71,7230390 Motion passed on.
roll call .as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett Towner., 1y
Heath Snyder, y Ma or Barnes
. . . -
Noes-, None
Absent None
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