10-08-1962 - Regular Meeting - Minutesh -t,
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
October 8, 1962
The regular meeting of the City Council was called to order by Mayor
Barnes at 7:55 P.M. in the West Covina City Hall. Councilman Towner
led the Pledge of Allegiance with the invocation being given by Rev.
Henry Kent, Community Presbyterian Church.
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Present: Mayor Barnes, Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder
Others Present: Mr.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES
September 11, 1962
George Aiassa, City Manager
Robert Flotten, City Clerk
Harry C. Williams, City Attorney
Thomas Dosh, Public Services Director
Harold Joseph, Planning Director
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
that the Minutes of September 11, 1962 be approved as submitted.
September 17, 1962
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the Minutes of September 17, 1962 be approved as submitted.
CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
PROJECT NO. C-163 LOCATION: Sunset Avenue South of
Accept Street Improvements Garvey Avenue
D & W Paving Contractor
APPROVED Accept street improvements and
authorize release of Ohio Cas-
ualty Insurance Company perform-
ance bond No. 1080453 in the amount of $4,500.00, subject to Notice of
Completion Procedure. Inspector's final report filed.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to accept the street improvements in Project C-163 and release the Ohio
Casualty Insurance Company performance bond No. 1080453 in the amount
of $4,500.00 subject to the Notice of Completion.
METES & BOUNDS SUBDIVISION
NO. 135-187
Accept Street Improvements
(Jerry P. Conboy)
HELD OVER
LOCATION: Southwest corner'of
Meadow Road and Garvey
Avenue
Accept street improvements and
authorize release of cash deposit
in the amount of $835.00. Inspec-
tor's final report filed.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that Metes and Bounds Subdivision No. 135-187 be held over until the
next regular meeting of the City Council, October 29, 1962.
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS - Continued
RESOLUTION NO. 2470.
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
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The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPRO-
VING BOND TO GUARANTEE THE COST OF
CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS AND THE TIME
OF COMPLETION IN PRECISE PLAN NO.
328 IN SAID CITY"
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2470.
RESOLUTION NO. 2471
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPRO-
VING THE FINAL SUBDIVISION.MAP OF
METES AND BOUNDS SUBDIVISION NO.
135-193 AND ACCEPTING AN AGREEMENT
BY THE SUBDIVIDER AND A SURETY BOND"
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2471.
RESOLUTION NO. 2472
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes.:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEP-
TING A CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENT
AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THERE-
OF"
Instrument executed by Eugene Jacobs
and Darlene F.=Jacobs dated August
21, 1962. #i4A 4Sj(B /c3-'-1q3,
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted.. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
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RESOLUTION NO. 2472 - Continued
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2472.
SCHEDULED MATTERS
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INSTALLATION OF SANITARY SEWERS Hearing of protests or objections
DISTRICT A111-61-1 to forming 1911 Act Assessment Dis-
trict to cover installation of san-
itary sewers in the Orange Avenue
and Pacific Avenue Sewer District. Set for hearing on this date by Res-
olution of Intention No. 2452 adopted by the City Council at their regu-
lar meeting of August 11, 1962.
Mayor Barnes: Mr. City Clerk, do you have the
affidavits of publication, pos-
ting and mailing?
Mr. Flotten: I have the affidavits, Mr. Mayor.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that these affidavits be received and filed.
Mayor Barnes: Mr. City Clerk, have you received
any written protests?
Mr. Flotten: No written or oral protests have
been received.
Mayor Barnes: Is there anyone in the audience who
wishes to protest Sanitary District
A'11-61-1?
Mr. Ed Farrell I don't believe at this time we
1818 West E1 Dorado have any facts and figures on the
case to justify our opposing or
going with it. We don't know
what it is going to cost us and I think on that score we should wait
until we do know.
Mayor Barnes:
We must submit this for bids to
get the exact cost. All we have
is the engineering estimate at
the present time.
Mr. Ed Farrell:
We don't even know what that is.
Mr. Rosetti, Assessment
Engineer: The Engineering Department has com-
pleted a study of what the entire
project would cost, an estimated
figure. The total cost
of the project will be $367,681.00. As of the
present figures, it will
run about $5.60 a front accessible foot which
is an excellent figure.
Mr. Ed Farrell:
Is that from the property line to
the center of the street?
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DISTRICT A-11-61-1 - Continued
Mr. Rosetti:
Mr. Ed Farrell:
Mr. Rosetti:
Mr. Walter Via
253 North Ituni Avenue
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That is across the front of'the
lot if the lot is rectangular
in size.
What does that cover? Do these
figures cover the connection from
the property to the center of the
street?
It covers the entire sewer down -
the center of the street plus -the
house lateral. It does not count
the house connection.
How is this payment going to be
paid? Is it going to be over a
period of five, ten years, or
what? Can you pay it off at once?
Mr. Rosetti: After the project is completed,
you have thirty days in which to
pay the entire assessment in cash.
If you cannot do so then it will go a ten-year bond paid in ten equal
installments. If you wish to pay the bond off you may pay the bond
off with the six-month period of interest that you are in at that time.
Mr. Walter Via: If this is prepaid, there will be
no interest on that, is that cor-
rect?
Mr. Rosetti: That's right.
Mr. Walter Via: Will the residents of these dis-
tricts be advised or notified
when that payment is due?
Mr. Rosetti: Yes. When the Council confirms
the assessment, in about three
days each property owner will
receive a bill for the amount of the assessment; that will be without
the interest.
Mr. Royce Leader
321 North Willow
Mr. Dosh :
cut is made. In addition to this,
in the area that need resurfacing.
Mr. Aiassa:
Mr. Royce Leader:
When putting in sewers on Pacific
Around Willow Avenue would that
be all excavated and sealed up and
not left like it is now, a big mess
of dirt and mud that has been there
for the last five or six years?
What we propose to do is after the
sewer is installed, we will service
the trench over where the pavement
we hope to resurface all of the streets
We have your name and address in
the Minutes and we will call on you
and see what the problem is.
Thank you.
There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2473
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
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The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ORDERING
WORK TO BE DONE ON WILLOW AVENUE,
MORRIS AVENUE AND OTHER STREETS AND
RIGHTS OF WAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH
RESOLUTION OF INTENTION NO. 24521,
(District A'11-61-1)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2473.
PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 231
(Revision 1)
James L. Allen & Albert L. Snell
LOCATION: Puente Avenue between
. Sunset and'Yaleton Avenues.
HELD OVER Request to reclassify from Zone R-3
to Zone C-1 and P-B. Approved by
Planning Commission Resolution No.
1251 on September 5, 1962. Request for adoption of Precise Plan of De-
sign denied by Planning Commission Resolution No. 1252 on September 5,
1962. Appealed by applicant on September 6, 1962. Held over from Sep-
tember 24, 1962, in order that City Staff .and applicant may work out a
more suitable Precise Plan.
Maps were presented and Mr. Joseph explained.each map and gave a brief
summary of the problem.
Planning Director, Mr. Joseph: We have three proposals prepared
by the applicant. None of them
conform to the minimum parking
requirements. We did not have the opportunity to discuss asthetics
with the applicant and possibly Mr. Snell or Mr. Allen can discuss this
with you tonight. Of the three plans presented, Plan No. 2 is the one
we would prefer. All three plans as revised are short in parking even
with office space. It would be more deficient if the offices were con-
verted to commercial. On Plan No. 2 they are about 19 stalls short;
Plan No. 3, 28 stalls short; and Plan No. 1, 23 stalls short. This
building configuration was the only one submitted to the staff.
Mr. Albert L. Snell, Jr. We cut down on the building space
1160 South Lark Ellen 5,500 square feet. We included
additional landscaping as much as
we possibly could in the location.
Primarily the buildings are all the same and there are three different
variations of the parking. In relation to the parking requirements here,
when we first initiated this, the parking requirements for that type of
development, as you are probably well aware of, were way.under the par-
king ratio that we are operating under now. As far as the design of the
buildings is concerned, we do intend to carry out the design of the fire
station and blend that right across. We would like to face on the streets
as we have it there because it would be facing the other development
across the street.
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PRECISE PLAN NO. 231 - Rev. 1 - Continued
Councilman.Snyder:
assurance do we have or how could we
always be used for offices?
Mr. Joseph:
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If one building is to be used for
offices, which could be done to
meet the,parking requirements, what
obtain assurance that this would
The rights go with the zone.
Councilman Snyder: We would have no assurance once the
precise plan was approved"that this
would be used for offices. I think
this plan is an improvement over last week but I still think'there are
other methods of getting better utilization of the land and certainly
better utilization of the parking.
Councilman Heath:
I have been figuring out the ratio
of the parking and something doesn't
sound right here.
Councilman Towner: I agree that this is an improvement
over what was shown last time but I
think actually what they are arguing
here, is either that they want a variance from the ordinance or that the
ordinance should be changed. They have presented no justification for
coming in with fewer parking stalls than our ordinance requires; they
just want them. I think unless they come up with justification for it,
either by variance or persuade the City Council to go through the pro-
cedure of changing its ordinance, which would be a retrogression com-
pared to what other cities are doing, I don't think they can justify
any departure from our ordinance. I think they should be required to
put in the same number of parking stalls that everyone else is required
to put in by ordinance.
Another continent that I have is that
the City is about to spend a very substantial sum of money on a library
and fire station at the corner of Yaleton and Puente and we have archi-
tectural designs showing landscaping around the corner and I think in
order to protect the tax payers investment that we ought to provide some-
thing in landscaping here fairly similar. They may not have to go to that
same extent, but at least something that approaches. itand provides a com-
patable development. This does not show that. I think before I would be
willing to approve this plan or any plan on this property that they would
have to do two things: One, provide parking in accordance with our ex-
isting ordinance; and secondly, provide suitable landscaping somewhat
similar to the landscaping provided by the City itself on the adjoining
property.
I have another comment. I assume
this plan will be revised and I think if it is, that some consideration
should be given to traffic circulation. It may be adequate here, but I
have some'question about it. 'I think on the office space, there is no.;
justification for reducing parking there because the zoning is commer-
cial and they could change it at any time and therefore they should be
required to provide parking in accordance with the ordinance..
Councilman Jett: I think this points up the fact
that a precise plan or the respon-
sibility of the City Council of
determining how a plan is going to develop, I do not think is proper.
I am against a precise plan as such. I don't think that we, the Commis-
sion or the Council, should tell any property owner how to build buil-
dings, how to set them on his property or how to arrange his parking lot.
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PRECISE PLAN NO. 231 (Rev. 1) -.Continued
Councilman Jett - Continued:
I think it is up to the..individual
who is going to make the investment to determine the best use of his
property and let him have the responsibility. I think if we are going
to attempt to do these things that we should do them in our ordinance.
In this particular case, this happens to be a small neighborhood de*
velopment. As such, I'm sure that a considerable amount of the busi-
ness here is going to come from the neighborhood, people who will be
walking to these stores. It is my feeling and my belief that with
this in mind I think it is an imposition on the property owner to re-
quire him to provide the same amount of parking at the same ratio of
parking that you would require from a building development like Scoa.
I don't think there is any comparison between the two at all. I think
the parking in this fulfills the requirements for a variance.
Councilman Heath: I think Councilman Towner has
some good points; however, I
would like to point out some-
thing here. If you look at the large building here, in figuring this
by square foot of 150 square feet per stall, that 60-foot store re-
quires 30 parking stalls. The one next to it is 25 feet wide and 65
feet deep and requires 11 parking stalls. The 30-foot one requires
12 parking stalls and so forth and the one on the right is 13. If
by a variance or some other means we could make more realistic require-
ments on the number of stalls we would have enough room for putting or
demanding a lot more landscaping. In a store the size of this, 60 by
75, I think to require 30 stalls for a space like that is a little
• absurd. If we went back to the old requirement of 300 square feet per
stall this would cut the parking requirements exactly in half and in-
stead of 107, it would give us 54 required and they have shown 88. We
could knock out 34 stalls and provide for landscaping. I think we
would be requesting an ample amount of parking stalls and make room
for the landscaping.
Mr. City Attorney, our ordinance
states there has to be so many stalls per so many square feet. In a
precise plan can you grant a precise plan and one of the conditions
to be that they require less parking spaces without going through a
variance?
Mr. Williams: No. By precise plan you can re-
quire a higher degree of perfor-
mance; you cannot permit a lower
degree of performance. You could approve it subject to the condition
that they get a variance and to be effective when they get one. In
approving a precise plan you cannot waive or diminish any requirements
as contained in the ordinance.
Councilman Snyder: In defense of the parking ordi-
nance, I used to think that pos-
sibly we are too strict, but we
have a group of buildings down here and we can't add on because we
don't have the parking space to add on and right now although we have
the legal required parking space we do not have enough. I think it is
more likely for these smaller shopping centers where your parking space
would be over used or filled up than it would be at Scoa because they
have far in excess of their parking needs. I don't think they have
shown any justification for a variance and I don't see how we can give
it to them. I think our parking ordinance, by experience, is proving
a good ordinance.
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PRECISE PLAN NO. 231 (Rev. 1) - Continued
Councilman Towner: I would agree with what council-
man Jett said, that the owner of
the property should be able'to
tell us what layout he wants in the way of buildings and parking. The
only contingency that I would put on it is that the owner in his lay-
out conform to the ordinance or justify a change from the ordinance.
Here they have drawn their own plans and shown us where they want the
buildings and the parking and my answer to this plan that they present
to us is not that your buildings are on the property in "the wrong place,
but only that they do not provide us with enough parking and they don't
provide.us with the kind of landscaping that should go into the area.
I think they are on the right track but I don't think that a's of this'''
date they have shown any justification for departure from the ordinance.
I think we should not discriminate and require these people to put in
more landscaping than somebody else or less. We should attempt as
nearly as possible to be uniform in these requirements and that is what
I hope to do. I note that there is no.provision for sidewalks on this
particular piece of property and I assume next to a library that we
ought to want some place to walk beside the street.
Mr. Joseph: The parkway area does.pot show on
this plan. Within the right of way
you will have improvements such as
sidewalks, curb, gutter and paving.
Mr. Dosh: This plan of itself does not solve
our drainage problem. Mr. Snell
has to procure an easement through
the City property or this R-1
property to solve his drainage
problem.
Councilman Jett: Mr. Williams, on the approval of
the precise plan can we, as a re-
quirement, have the approval of
this plan require that when building starts/that the entire property be
improved at the same time and not be done piecemeal? I am thinking
more of the parking than anything else.
Mr. Williams: Yes, I think so. The Council has
imposed a similar condition in cer-
tain instances. I think the legal
answer to the question is this: You can impose any condition which has
a reasonable bearing or relationship to the factors which you may con-
sider in approving a precise plan. One of the factors is ground cover-
age, for example, the proper relationship to one another, of buildings
and parking area. Therefore, it would appear to me that a requirement
of building in a certain order of development or building all at one
time or something would be a reasonable condition and would bear a re-
lationship to these things which you do consider when you approve a pre-
cise plan. I think if you see a relationship to the approval of the plan
then I think the condition is reasonable.
Councilman Jett:
I think in this instance this
fits the purpose then.
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PRECISE PLAN NO. 231 (REV. 1
- Continued
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Mayor Barnes: I like plan number three. They
have all the planting -area, in the
front if they would take out the
two center driveways. I feel perhaps it,might be a good idea'to re-
study our parking ordinances as far as neighborhood shopping centers
in relation to the larger shopping centers. I think in a local neigh-
borhood center some of the people walk to the store; it isn't neces-
sarily all cars and the requirement for this type of shopping center
wouldn't be as great as it would be in the Plaza or around the Broad-
way or some store of this magnitude.
Councilman Snyder: Before we can approve this, though,
I think strictly as a matter of
law you are going to have to show
some justification for a variance. You can't do it without showing a
justification for a variance and it has not been shown.
Councilman Towner: We could approve it subject to -
its being conformed to the ordinance
but I prefer, and I think the devel-
opers would prefer, to have a plan come through and get approved as they
want it. If we hold it subject to conformance withthe ordinance or sub-
ject to a future variance, then I think preferable route would be to
take these plans and have the Planning Department; Fire Department,
Police Department and Engineering Department review them and come up
with their suggested recommendations that would make these plans con-
form to the usual requirements for this type of development and with
that list of requirements they can draw it up to meet them. This,
to me, doesn't provide, for example, adequate access for the,police
or fire departments, doesn't provide adequate parking according to
ordinance and doesn't provide adequate landscaping according to our
usual City requirements. I think if you refer it back and go over it
again that they might come up with a suitable plan next time.
Councilman Heath: I tried to make a..point before
but evidently it didn't go over.
In looking at a building 60 feet
by 75 feet and to say that an establishment of that type requires 30
parking stalls, I think, is unrealistic. These numbers are way out
of line even though they agree with the ordinance. I think on the
basis of requiring 30 cars fora building this size has all the re-
quirements for a variance and I think that the reason for the variance
is the fact that our parking requirements are as erroneous as can be.
Councilman Snyder: If we used that as a reason for a
variance we would be done from
here on out.
Councilman Heath: Until our ordinance can be re-
vised I think we should use a
variance until that time comes
about.
Councilman Towner: I am not ready to conceive that we
ought to start back-pedalling on
these parking requirements.. The
number of cars per home is increasing; we have more cars per home than
any other City of comparable size in Los Angeles County. This is a
trend that is increasing. What I am pointing out is that this is a
community on wheels. People don't walk; they drive. We have to pro-
vide adequate parking and adequate traffic circulation. This is one
of the most difficult problems that we are faced with constantly and
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PRECISE PLAN NO. 231 (REV. 1) - Continued
Page Ten
Councilman Towner - Continued:
• I think any City that starts going backwards on parking requirements
is going to build a slum area and you will find very shortly an area
like this with inadequate parking will go down hill and will blight
the neighborhood. I think we ought to avoid that. I think Council
man Heath's argument is directed toward the ordinance and there is no
variance before us. As of tonight, we have nothing to act'on except
to say that this does.not conform.to.the ordinance or our usual and
customary requirements. Then I want to know what do we do with it.
I think we can save time by referring it back to the Planning Commis-
sion and let them pick it up subject to these suggestions of the Coun-
cil and send us a revised plan after their study. It is my understan-
ding that the ordinance provides that if the Council has a plan pre-
sented to it that is materially different than the one presented to
the Planning Commission that in some respect this has to go back to
the Planning Commission, is this correct?
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Mr. Williams: I think so.
Councilman Snyder: There is too much variation from
the ordinance to grant a variance
because they have not shown suf-
ficient cause and I can show you many cases in the City where they have
totally inadequate parking. When this parking -.ordinance was drawn up,
the Planning Commission took ordinances from many cities. They made
engineering studies of the required amount of parking and the trends
for the future and these parking requirements were not just arbitrary;
they are based upon experience and based on many different studies.
Councilman Heath: Does our parking ordinance make
a differential between the re-
quirements of a neighborhood
shopping center as in relation to a central shopping center in rela-
tion to a regional shopping center as far as the requirements are
concerned?
Mr. Joseph: The parking ratio for commercial
stores is the same in any zone
classification. The neighborhood
commercial zone is known as C-1. The more community or regional.cen-
ters are C-2. They take the same ratio.
Councilman Snyder:
cess of what the City requires.
in more.
I think it is significant that
developers with wide experience
feel that they should put in ex -
They don't try to get less; they put
Councilman Heath: I think that there is a difference
in requirements depending upon the
location. We have a responsibility
to the developer and to these people who own the property to let them
get the maximum use out of their property. To require them to cut down
on the usable space to make provisions for parking is not fair to them
nor is it fair to the City. I think this parking ordinance needs going
over. I therefore feel that in light of the fact even though we have
passed a parking ordinance, I think the ratio is wrong and should be
revised. I think there is justification for a variance on this piece
of property.
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PRECISE PLAN NO, 231 - REV' 1 - Continued
Councilman Snyder: I think we do a lot of talking
about our responsibility'to the
developer but we also have a re-
sponsibility to the neighbors of these people and to the tenants that
are going to occupy these buildings. Our thinking mostly should be
in the direction of the neighbors around this area, the people who
are going to use the parking lot and also the tenants of this building.
I don't feel that your opinions on parking are based on any scientific
fact; they are only based on observations you have made in driving to
different neighborhood shopping centers.
Councilman Towner:
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Towner:
to restudy the parking ordinance
that he can make the proposal we
that is in front of use
When was the parking ordinance
enacted?
1960.
If I recall correctly, Mr. Heath
was on the City Council at the
time. I think if Mr. Heath wants
with a view to lowering requirements,
need to do here is act on the plan
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that Pre-
cise Plan of Design No, 231, Revision 1, be referred back to the City
Planning Commission for study as to,the required parking and landscaping,
traffic circulation and timing of the development.
• Mr, Albert L. Snell: Originally in 1960 prior to the
adoption of your present require-
ments for parking, we submitted
this same piece of property for development. At that time the parking
ratio was one to 300. Now just because of the fact that the parking
requirements and your ordinance have been changed, the situation has
changed as far as the recommendations of the Planning Commission, At
that particular time the Planning Commission recommended approval of
it subject to the approval of the zoning of the property. As far as
that part is concerned, we have less footage in our buildings now
than we had at that particular time.
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Counci lman Towner:
be, according to the ordinance, be
mission?
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Heath:
When there is such a material
change in a precise plan as has
been made in this one, it should
referred back to the Planning Com-
Is this compulsory or could this
plan be approved tonight?
Subject to a variance.
The precise plan ordinance, as
I recall it, does not in so many
words state that if there is a
substantial change it must be referred back to the Commission. But,
if I remember correctly, it states that the procedure shall be the
same as the procedure for a variance. In the code provision relating
to a variance it states that if there is a substantial change coming
before the City Council it shall be referred back to the Planning Com-
mission before you act, not that they have to set it for hearing again
or give new notice, but they make a study and report back to you before
you act on its So', by analogy, although it doesn't say this in the
precise plan ordinance, I feel that that would apply. As to what you
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Mr. Williams - Continued:
could do, you can't approve it because -it dodsh't cdhforin to the
• ordinance. You can hold it until you amend the ordinance'or-"you
can hold it until a variance is,obtained'or you could approveit
subject to the condition that this approval shall not be effective
for any purpose unless and until the ordinance is amended_so'that`
this will then comply or unless and until they get a variance with
which they will comply.
Councilman Towner: The intent of my motion was not
to require public hearings and
public notice but for study and
report.
Councilman Jett: I feel that the people on the
north side of the freeway are'
entitled to have a fire station.
This is something that is being held up because we have been unable''
to arrive at a decision on approval of this precise plan and obtaining
the prints from the architect for the fire station. I think we should
make every possible effort to get this fire station under construction
and I think that we should do everything we can to speed this up. I
would like to see,a requirement that when these buildings start or thedevelopment of this area starts that they require that all the areas
hat -are to -bye .for;- avin p g;°--the .sridewa3:ks-and--a1-those- improvements,— be required as a part of the development so it is not developed on a
piecemeal I basis.
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Councilman Heath: If this goes back all they can
do is cut out some of these
stores and cut it down until
they have the proper ratio. They can do nothing more than cut down
the number of buildings until they get the proper ratio between stores
and parking lot. If we hold it here and wait for a variance, they can
then go and get a variance.
Action on Councilman Towner's motion: Motion failed on roll call as
follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Snyder
Noes: Councilmen Jett, Heath, Mayor Barnes
Absent:, None -
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that Precise
Plan of Design No. 231, Revision 1, be held before the City Council
for decision until the Council receives an application for a variance
as to the required parking or until such a variance is granted.
Mayor Barnes:
Mr. Albert L. Snell:
Councilman Towner:
Mayor Barnes:
Would the applicant be willing
to do this?
Yes
As I understand it, the hearing
on the commercial zoning has
closed. Was there a vote, on the
commercial zoning?
It was ,approved.
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PRECISE PLAN NO. 231 (REV. 1) - Continued
Councilman Towner: I understand further that the
condition placed upon the sale
of the property to the City of
• commercial zoning has been fulfilled and we can go ahead now and buy
that property and put up our fire station and our library without the
precise plan being approved; that the precise plan is entirely separ-
ate from the agreement.
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Mr. Williams:
There was no condition in the ne-
gotiated settlement concerning
approval of the precise plan on
the C-1 property.
Councilman Towner: I think that there should be no
mistake about that. We intend
to go ahead and close out the
sale so we can have our fire station and library built and no longer
be subject to this tail -twisting with respect to the precise plan.
Action on Councilman Heath's motion. Motion passed on roll call as
follows:
Ayes: Councilmen
Noes: Councilmen
Absent: None
Councilman Snyder:
Mr. James L. Allen
5484 Village Green
Jett, Heath, Mayor Barnes
Towner, Snyder
we were in for the value of
utmost of the commercial.
cut down where the buildings
well left it R-3.
I feel that such action of a vari-
ance is making a mockery of our
Planning Commission and our ordi-
nance and also the requirements
for a variance.
At the time we were negotiating
on the sale of the property as
to the commercial zoning to the
sale of the property, at that time
the commercial property to realize the
If the value of our property is going to be
are going to be cut, we would have just as
Councilman Towner: I do assume that you will conform
to the agreement that you entered
into through Mr. Heath as to the
sale of this property to the City with respect to the commercial zoning.
We anticipate that you will carry out your contract.
Mayor Barnes: You mean Mr. Williams, don't you?
Councilman Towner: It was negotiated through Mr.
Heath, I believe.
Mr. Williams: Mr. Snell told me that it is his
• opinion that there was an under-
standing that the precise plan on
the C-1 property was part of the transaction. I have here the letter
from his attorney setting forth the terms which we agreed to. I don't
recall any discussion which had anything to do with approving a precise
plan on the C-1 property. As far as I'm concerned insofar as the con-
demnation action is conerned, if Mr. Snell means what I think he just
told me, I would ask your permission to proceed with the condemnation
immediately. I would like to read this letter into the Minutes:
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PRECISE PLAN NO. 231 (REV.1) - Continued
Mr Williams - continued: "In confirmation of our receht-
conversations, my'clients, James
L. Allen, Mary E. Allen, Albert L. Snell, Jr. and Opal M. Snell,
• have authorized me to represent to you that they will settle all
claims for compensation and damages by reason of the taking,by
plaintiff of Parcel 2 in the above action for the sum of $9,900.00
upon the following conditions:
11(1) That the parcel to be taken
be reduced in area in the northeast corner to 'round out' the pro-
posed alley on property owned by my clients (described in Precise
Plan of Design No. 231, Revision 1) and delineated upon the diagram
received by me in your letter of July 20, 1962;
11(2) That the City of West Covina
initiate and complete proceedings to amend said Precise Plan No. 231
to permit the relocation of garages as delineated upon the diagram
above referred to; and
11(3) That the balance of the prop-
erty owned by my clients located to the east of Parcel 2, and des-
cribed in the petition for rezoning filed on July 23, 1962 by my
clients with the City of West Covina be rezoned to zone C-1."
This letter is dated August 8, 1962
and addressed to Burke, Williams and Sorenson and signed by Harold E.
Prudhon. If this is meant as I understood it to be that there is a
condition not expressed here, I don't like to play ball that way and
I would like to have authority to proceed with a lawsuit.
Mayor Barnes: I don't think we need to because
I think all of these requirements
have been met.
Mr. Williams: They have been met; now they say
there is another requirement.
Mayor Barnes: Mr. Thomas of Neptune and Thomas
has promised that the plans and
specifications of the new fire
station will be in the hands of the City Manager on November 4. At
this point I see no reason for holding it up. I don't feel that we
should dilly-dally any more. I think this has been held up entirely
too long. There seems to be some.animosity towards a fire station
and I can't understand it.
Councilman Snyder: Animosity from who?
Mayor Barnes: I don't know.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Counal man Jett, that the City
Manager and the City Attorney be authorized to proceed with the ac-
quisition of the Allen and Snell property in connection with the north
fire station site. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heatii,_Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
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PROPOSED AMENDMENT NO. 58
City Initiated
APPROVED
0 Mayor Barnes:
Mr. John Hiatt:
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A proposal to amend Section
9218 of the West Covina Muni-
cipal Code so as to include
R-2 uses in the Precise Plan
procedure.
Is there anyone in the audience
interested in this matter?
What does this cover?
Councilman Jett: R-2 will be covered by a precise
plan. This is simply to bring it
up so our entire ordinance is uni-
form. Mr. Flotten, City Clerk read Planning Commission Resolution
No. 1260.
There being no further public testimony, the hearing was closed.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that Proposed Amendment No. 58, City Initiated, be approved.
VARIANCE NO. 368 LOCATION: Service Avenue between
and Sunset Avenue and Rich -
PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 299 land Avenue.
Roger Roelle
HELD OVER Request to permit reduction of
require number of parking spaces
. in Zone C-2, and for adoption of
Precise Plan of Design, denied by Planning Commission Resolutions Nos.
1160 and 1161, respectively. Appealed by applicant on February 19, 1962.
Hearing held on March 12, 1962, and closed, and referred to Planning
Commission for report. Report of Planning Commission dated May 2, 1962,
read at Council meeting of May 28th, after applicant request matter be
held over from May 14th. Applicant not present. Held over to June llth,
and from June llth, to July 23rd, and from July 23rd to September llth.
Held over to September 24th, at request of applicant, and again to Oc-
tober 8, 1962.
City Clerk, Mr. Flotten read the Planning Commission report on these
matters. Maps were presented and Mr. Joseph gave a brief summary of
the matters before the Council.
Mr. Aiassa: The variance is to reduce the
number of parking stalls from
272 parking stalls to 92 par-
king stalls.
Mayor Barnes: Does the parking follow along
the same orderly development as
the other parking? Does the same
type of parking continue so the circulation through all the area is
the same?
Mr. Dosh: The area is the same. There may
be a little difficulty in the
alignment but it is easy to get
through, I would say.
Councilman Towner: Is this property subject to any
community parking agreement with
the adjoining property?
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VARIANCE NO. 368 - PRECISE PLAN NO. 299 - Continued
Mr. Roger Roelle: I own the adjoining property and
as you see by the plan I just'put
up, the parking lot is a community
arrangement with the adjoining property. Also, someone in the past has
required that this property that we are talking about hold an easement
open of 172 feet for ingress and egress to the community parking lot.
We have tried to maintain the continuity for the whole block all the
way through. This is why we are asking for a variance, so the whole
block is the same.
Councilman Towner: Is there a joint parking agree-
ment between you and the other
property owners?
Mr. Roger Roelle: There is not and cannot be be-
cause the parking agreement has
already been set up between the
adjoining property owners, but I don't see how you can stop people
from parking in our lot and going to Barker Brothers and visa versa.
Councilman Towner: It has come up here as to whether
our ordinance applies to net or
gross area within the building.
It is my understanding that it means gross but it appears there may
be some question about it.
Mr. Williams:
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Mr. Roger Roelle:
Mayor Barnes:
Mr. Roger Roelle:
Councilman Heath:
My recollection is that it states
gross square feet.
Just with the setback we are re-
quired to give we could pick up
46 parking spaces.
How many corridors do you have
that are ten feet wide?
One 20-foot corridor and one 1.0-
foot wide on the first floor and
three 10-foot on the second floor.
That is 9,000 square feet. He
would pick up about 30 stalls.if
we made allowance for the hall-
ways.
Mayor Barnes: I think that this has to be done
in an orderly manner. I feel
that less parking is justified
here. I don't know whether this much is justified, but I think it is
justified in that I would like to keep the parking area all the same.
in the back of the buildings. It would make a nicer looking develop-
ment.
• Councilman Towner: In providing these 92 parking
spaces, it appears to me from
looking at the plan, that there
has been no allowance for landscaping in the parking lot area and it
is my understanding that this was required on the adjoining areas.
Mr. Roger Roelle:
There is an allowance; there
will be landscaping.
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VARIANCE NO. 368 - PRECISE PLAN NO. 299 - Continued
Page Seventeen
Councilman Snyder: I think he is entitled to some -
reduction and some variance from
the requirements but not as much
as he is asking.
Councilman Towner: I assume that if landscap
ing is
to be provided here that some of
these 92 parking spaces that are
indicated on this precise plan application would be lost, is this right?
Mr. Joseph: Possibly.
Mr. Roger. Roelle: If landscaping is provided reason-
ably, we won't.lose any parking
stalls.
Councilman Towner: I am willing, within reason,'to
cut down on parking space require-
ments, but I think we have to find
some justification and some reasonable justification to do it.
Councilman Heath: I don't think the ratio is right.
There are 92 stalls possible and
due to the hallways and so forth
they should have an allowance equal to 30 stalls if we cut down to net
which gives us the value for 122 stalls.
Councilman Snyder:
You can't subtract the entire
hallway. They would have to at
least have a three-foot hallway.
Councilman Heath: That is a good point. However,
let us say that we have 115 valued
stalls. I think we are becoming
more realistic to what has been put in along side of this building here
and if the same privilege was extended to the buildings next door I
think it should be extended to this one.
Councilman Jett: I think with this type of a buil-
ding the parking requirements are
going to be a minimum, not a maxi-
mum. In view of what has happened on the area next to it, I feel that
we are justified in making these allowances on this particular piece of
property. I think the requirements for a variance in this case have
been met.
Mayor Barnes: I think we want to keep the contin-
uity of these buildings in this
area. I believe that with parking
coordinated through the different areas or a cooperative type parking,
this will be adequate but I would like to see some trees in the parking
area. I think we can do the landscaping through our Planning Department
without losing too many stalls. I feel that there is a justification
here but I do want to see us develop something nice.
Councilman Towner: I am not going to grant this great
reduction as requested. I think it
would be a disservice to the people
who would be using the building and to the surrounding area to do that.
However, I do think there is justification for reduction and the problem
as I see it is how much and where do we put it and how do we get the
landscaping in. I don't think we can sit here and draw the whole plan
tonight. Now that our comments are known, we ought to let the people
take it back and work these things out and bring it back to us in some
more finalized form.
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VARIANCE NO. 368 - PRECISE PLAN NO. 299 - Continued
Councilman Snyder: This is next to First Federal?
Mr. Roger Roelle: Yes.
Councilman Snyder: They have excess parking,
don't they?
Mr. Joseph: Yes.
Councilman Snyder: Is there any possibility of working
out a parking arrangement with them?
Mr. Roger Roelle: The only problem is they raised
their property above the develop-
ment of this property. The prop-
erty next to this property, my property, was zoned one for every 300
square feet for commercial and one for every 600 for office space.
That is square feet. This is net.
Councilman Towner:
Councilman Jett:
Mr. Roger Roelle:
Councilman Towner:
I think if we held it over until
the next meeting, that would give
him time.to come up with something
for us.
I think this is a reasonable re-
quest to hold it over if it is
all right with Mr. Roe11e.
It is all right.
We want more parking spaces than
you have on there now. We also
want some landscaping.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that Vari-
ance No. 368 and Precise Plan of Design No. 299 be held over until the
next meeting, with the applicant's permission, to give the applicant
time to prepare new plans to meet the satisfaction of the Council.
Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Councilman Heath: I think between now and next
meeting we could take a look at
the parking and see if there is
any way that it could be arranged.
Councilman Jett: This would be my thinking, too,
that we try to arrive at something
equitable in between here.
Mr. Roger Roelle: Would it be out of order to ask
to give this property the same
treatment, landscaping included,
that you gave the.adjoining prop-
erty?
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VARIANCE NO. 368 - PRECISE PLAN NO. 299 - Continued
Councilman Heath: That was what I thought this should
be held over'for and I think that
is a fair request.
Councilman Towner: I do not agree with the thought
that we ought to throw the ordinance
out the window and let him go back
to what was a special condition on
the property to the west.
Mayor Barnes: Mr. Roelle, I think that you gathered
from what the conversation is tonight
that that is what we want you to do,
try to work this plan out more satis-
factorily.
VARIANCE NO. 401 LOCATION: 825 South Glendora
Wm. M. and Lorraine F. Weaver Avenue between Herring
Alscot Development Company Avenue and Cameron
APPROVED Avenue
Request to construct and maintain
office building in Zone R-A. Denied by Planning Commission Resolution
No. 1249 on August 15, 1962. Appealed by applicant on August 25, 1962.
Hearing conducted on September 24, 1962. Approved by Council on Septem-
ber 24th, subject to conditions to be set forth fully at meeting of Oc-
tober 8, 1962.
Mr. Flotten, City Clerk, read report dated October 8, 1962 regarding
conditions on Variance No. 401.
Mayor Barnes: I feel we should give the appli-
cant an opportunity to speak to
see if he will comply with the
conditions that we have proposed
to impose on this.
Mr. Glenn R. Watson: The two problems which Mr. Joseph
brought up at the end of those
conditions rather surprised us,
quite frankly. We felt the Council had already acted on those last
two points. The first one was as to the height of the building. We
felt that upon presentation of the artist's conception, the rendering
and also from our presentation, the Council knew that we saw a two-
story building and we felt that the majority of the Council expressed
a view that you would like such a building. I agree with Mr. Joseph
that the record needs clarification in that the Council's action did
not specify two stories and we agree in granting a variance a condi-
tion limiting the number of stories should be imposed and we respect-
fully request two stories. Also, we felt that the Council did intend
to grant the variance on the whole parcel of the property. We disagree
with the thought that the area of the variance.be reduced for several
reasons: (1) We need the area for parking. I will immediately state
that we made a computation today in Mr. Joseph's office regarding the
lot on the Glendora side of the Duff extension. If the building is
held to the precise dimensions scaled, several things have to be taken
into account. The precise plan has not
p yet been presented to you. It
is believed among the partners that they might like a few more feet of
building. At the present time the plan presented to you shows a 25 foot
setback. Our people would like more than the minimum required area of
parking to serve the building. We thought you had acted on that part
of the matter. If what I have stated was the Council's intention, to
approve a two-story building and to front the variance on the whole
property, I have only one more problem. That is the Duff extension.
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VARIANCE NO. 401 - Continued
Mr. Watson - Continued:
I stated that our clients would
• file a precise plan with the improvements so arranged that they would
not be in the way of the extension of Duff and in discussion with Mn.
Joseph this morning, it is only,fair to him to state that I'took the
view that we could probably agree to the extension of Duff across the
lot. There are a number of people in the company and they would respect-
fully'request that Duff not be extended across the lot or that they not
be .required to provide for that extension unless it is your intention to
extend it all the way to Cameron; in other words, to go through this lot,
take up 35 parking spaces and go no where and accomplish nothing, they
would respectfully disagree with. If the Council decides to extend
Duff all the way through to Cameron then they would dedicate it on the
conditions indicated by Mr, Joseph,
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Mayor Barnes: I will declare. the hearing closed.
Councilman Snyder: If Duff was not extended, what
treatment would we give the end
of Duff, a cul-de-sac?
Mr. Joseph: The Planning Department has just
about completed a very ambitious
study of South Glendora Avenue and
the Planning Commission, through its Chairman, has requested a joint
meeting to consider the Planning Department studies for South Glendora.
It is my thought that the City Council would be doing itself a great
disservice if they approve a variance which did not take into account
that Duff Avenue may go through on one of the study plans that are
going to be shown to you. We know that the City Council, did not like
the idea of going out to Cameron Avenue but there is more than one way
to take care of Duff Avenue rather than sub -ending it here which the
Public Service and Public Safety Departments of the City do not agree
with as far as design. We do not think that you should close the door
on yourselves by not acting for Duff to go through. In the condition
that we worked out this morning, it does not say that Duff Avenue should
go through. All it says is that permanent improvement such as required
building or required parking be kept off this area and that the applicant
post a short term bond so that if the conclusion of your studies show you
feel that Duff should go through or do something you haven't bound your-
selves.
Mayor Barnes: I don't think that is too unreason-
able.
Mr, Glenn R. Watson: If you do take it all. the way through
they would dedicate it and improve it
and would post a bond to insure it.
But, if you don't, then we would request that it not take any portion of
the property. In the interim, during the study, we will give you the
two years and post the bond,
Councilman Snyder: We might have to require a little
• bit of their property for a cul-de-
sac.
Councilman Heath:
applicant is in agreement to work
in favor of holding it up.
It is my understanding that we had
applied the variance to the full
piece of property. However, if the
under those conditions, I would not be
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VARIANCE NO. 401 - Continued
Councilman Jett: I thought we approved this variance
and approved this building. This
is a surprise to me,
Councilman Towner: We approved a variance subject to
conditions to be set forth at our
meeting tonight on the entire prop-
erty but I think this certainly is -not an insurmountable difficulty. I
think this proposed Item No. 8 can be left in here, providing a bond
for putting the street through in the event that we do it, Personally,
I don't think we will put that street through. On this we could add
the applicant shall indicate his willingness to dedicate Duff
Avenue as a 54-foot right of way through the property or sufficient
right of way for a cul-de-sac
Mr, Glenn R. Watson: If you say "sufficient right of
way for a cul-de-sac" I assume
you would take the minimum of the
property in question.
Councilman Towner: This is what I had in mind.
Councilman Heath: If the cul-de-sac is taken off
the south end of your property
and does not extend all the way
through your property, what would you use that back part of the prop-
erty for?
Mr. Glenn R. Watson: Parking,
Councilman Towner: I think generally we all agree that
there is no point running a street
through there if it doesn't go all
the way through to Cameron. It wouldn't be fair to this property owner.
Councilman Heath: I would agree to the stipulation
that the cul-de-sac be kept to
the minimum on the south side of
the property or that if the street is cut through to Cameron that it
would be a straight cut through on the property only on condition that
it goes straight through to Cameron. I would be in favor of that,
Councilman Snyder: I would agree to that.
Councilman Towner: In referring to Condition No, 1,
I -think it was the intent of the
motion that the uses permitted by
variance shall consist of those office uses in the R-P zone and we in-
tended to keep this to office use only and not permit generalized de-
velopments and apartment houses.
Mr. Glenn Re Watson: We agree with that. We did in-
tend to be limited to office uses.
On item No. 1, it concludes ,as
10 limited by statements of the applicant" and so on on September 24. We
suggest that language be deleted. All the limitations contained in our
statements have been expressly set forth in your conditions and that is
an unnecessary thing now which creates uncertainty in the terms of the
variance,
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VARIANCE NO, 401 - Continued
Councilman Towner:
Mr. Glenn R. Watson:
Page Twenty -Two
I have no objection to deleting that
in order to make it more certain.
I presume that Item No. 10 about
the contractor's equipment is the
thing that you have reference to.
I think that was what we had refer-
ence to, the statements of the appli-
cant at the meetings
Councilman Heath: We have one more point to clarify
and that is the height of the buil-
ding. I took for granted that we
were agreeing to a two-story building as that rendering was presented
to us last time. I think we should clarify that.
Councilman Jett:
This was.certainly my interpreta-
tion of what we approved on the
variance.
Councilman Towner:
We could, if we wanted to, act on
that when the time came for the
precise plane
Mr. Glenn R. Watson:
I would like you to act on it now.
Councilman Towner:
It may make a difference as to
the position of the building on
the property. I think we ought
to expressly reserve this until
we see how they are going to use the
property with their building.
Councilman Snyder:
Are you aware that our ordinance
states that a two-story building
must be 100 feet from R-l?
Mr, Glenn R. Watson:
That is what this variance is for.
Councilman Towner:
Is it possible to control the
height of the building at the
time we act on the precise plan?
Mr. Williams: Yes, it is in the sense that you
can reduce the permitted height
but not in the sense that you can
increase it so that if this variance does not permit a height variance
they must then file another variance for height if they are going to
have above one story because the R-A zone provides there can be no
building more than one story in height closer than 100 feet of the
residential zone. The precise plan couldn't be approved for more than
one story unless the height variance is granted,
Mr. Glenn R. Watson: We do have pending a C-1 appli-
cation. It will be set by your
body later. The appeal on that
could be deferred and continued until December 10 because we understand
that the Planning Commission is working on a C-P ordinance provision
which you may or may not determine as suitable for the street. We
would like for the C-1 appeal to be deferred until you have considered
the C-P use. It is pending but it is not before you tonight.
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ARIANCE NO. 401 - Continued
Page Twenty -Three
Councilman Towner: I am not at this time willing to
go for a variance from our ordinance
because I have not yet heard any=
thing that justifies this height. This property is immediately adjacent
to R-1 single family homes. The ordinance requires the setback of 100
feet from these homes to two-story. If there is some justification for
it, I would be glad to listen to it.
Mr, Glenn R. Watson: I felt that at the time of the'
hearing there was sufficient evi-
dence offered to show that the
property could not be economically developed for other uses. The jus-
tification for a two-story is that this particular client cannot get
his office facility into a one-story building unless we spread it over
a good portion of the lot. Secondly, so far as beauty and design, at-
tractiveness, enhancement of value and appearance, a two-story building
of that nature is architectually more of an asset than a single story
building. There is no objection from the single families immediately
adjacent. They know these plans and they endorse them. So far as any
imposition to them is concerned, in the precise plan we will develop
suitable landscaping between the south wall of the building and the
property alignment which you will. pass upon. We think they can be pro-
tected. They don't fear this; they think it will be an asset to their
property,
Councilman Towner: Insofar as the pending question,
that two stories, is concerned,
I think undoubtedly that if we
have no objection from the .immediate home owners with the possible ex-
ception of the one on the west side of Duff, and they appear to be a
sufficient distance away, that people will not be looking down in their
back yard, so I think there is sufficient justification if the rest of
the Council. agrees
M. Go Davis
840 West Herald Street
Mr, Joseph:
Mr. M>G.Davis:
Councilman Heath:
Mr, Ma Go Davis:
I have the property west of this
building and I objected then and
I object now to a two-story buil-
ding.
The building will be approximately
215 feet from his house.
Nothing has been said about the
garage in the back. It will be
about 15 feet from our bedroom
window.
It will. not exceed a maximum of
eight feet in height.
I feel you need more precise plans
before you make any decisions.
0 Mayor Barnes: There will be a precise plan,
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VARIANCE NO. 401 - Continued
Mr. Carnign When you talk about the eight feet,
General Partner it pertains to the ceiling height
Alscot Development Company of the garage itself. I assume
now that it would be masonry on
the back and on the sides probably
with a parapet. If the part of the parapet were limited to eight feet,
I could not get the proper ceiling height to allow access to a garage
and I would assume that a garage on a property line like that would re-
quire a fire wall parapet, is that not correct.
Mr. Glenn R. Watson: Can't we handle that in the pre-
cise plan?
Mayor Barnes: I think so.
Mr. Williams: On the conditions, they now stand
corrected as follows: On Item
No. 1, we have inserted "those
office building uses Permited in R-P zone" and stricken the last two
lines "as limited by statements of the applicant".
In Item No. 8, to account for Duff
Avenue, ". . . no required building,
required parking or other on site improvements- shall be permitted in the
area which could be used for right of way for Duff Avenue for a period
of two years." "The applicant shall indicate his willingness to dedi-
cate Duff Avenue as a 54-foot right of way through the property in the
event Duff Avenue is to continue north to Cameron or sufficient right
•of way for a cul-de-sac if it is not to so continue and shall post a
bond with a two-year time limit
In Item No. 9, ". . . the height
of the garage as located along the northwesterly property line shall not
exceed a maximum of eight feet' in height and the height of the office
building shall not exceed two stories".
RESOLUTION NO. 2474
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The following resolution would
include these conditons if it is
approved.
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA GRANTING
A VARIANCE" (Var#iance No. 401,
Wm, M. and Lorraine F. Weaver and
Alscot Development Company)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said res-
olution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilman Jett, Towner, Heath, Mayor Barnes
Noes: Councilman Snyder
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2474.
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EASTERLY ANNEXATION NO. 171
HEARING OF PROTESTS
Page Twenty -Five
Hearing of protest set for this"
date by Resolution No. 2444 Adop-
ted by the City Council on August
27, 1962.
• Mayor Barnes: Now is the time and place for pro-
tests on Easterly Annexation No. 171.
•
Mr. Flotten:
Mayor Barnes:
RESOLUTION NO. 2475
ADOPTED
No protests from the audience.
We have no written or oral protests,
Mr. Mayor,
I will declare the hearing closed.
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA FINDING
AND DECLARING THAT A MAJORITY PRO-
TEST HAS NOT BEEN MADE AGAINST
EASTERLY ANNEXATION NO. 1711,
Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we.will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2475.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST-COVINA APPRO-
VING THE ANNEXATION TO INCORPORA-
TING IN AND MAKING A PART OF SAID
CITY OF WEST COVINA CERTAIN UNIN-
HABITED TERRITORY OUTSIDE THE SAID
CITY AND CONTIGUOUS THERETO KNOWN
AS EASTERLY ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO.
171"
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the body of said ordinance not be read.
Motion by Councilman -Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced.
EASTERLY ANNEXATION NO. 172
HEARING OF PROTESTS
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing of protests set for this
date by Resolution No. 2445 adop-
ted by the City Council on August
27, 1962.
Now is the time and place for hearing
protests on Easterly Annexation No.
172.
No protests from the audience.
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EASTERLY ANNEXATION NO. 172 - Continued
Mr. Flotten:
Mayor Barnes:
RESOLUTION NO. 2476
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
Page Twenty -Six
We have no written or oral pro-
tests, Mr. Mayor.
I will declare the hearing closed,,
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA FINDING
AND DECLARING THAT A MAJORITY PRO-
TEST HAS NOT BEEN MADE AGAINST
EASTERLY ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO.
1721,
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2476.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPRO-
VING THE ANNEXATION INCORPORATING
IN AND MAKING A PART OF SAID CITY
OF WEST COVINA CERTAIN UNINHABITED
TERRITORY OUTSIDE OF THE SAID CITY
AND CONTIGUOUS THERETO KNOWN AS
EASTERLY ANNEXATION DISTRICT NO.
172"
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of said ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced.
GENERAL MATTERS
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
VINCENT AVENUE SIDEWALKS
Maps were presented and Mr. Aiassa read a report concerning the action
.of the Council on October 1, 1962 that put into effect the immediate
barricades to prohibit parking along Vincent Avenue from Workman to
Puente.
Mr. Aiassa: We have also made traffic counts
of which you have received copies.
(Read report.) We have given you
two reports. In one we have outlined the best method of financing this
type of improvement. We have also listed the methods by which we have
put sidewalks in in West Covina and we have also gone into the phases
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VINCENT AVENUE SIDEWALKS - Continued
Mr. Aiassa - Continued:
where we have used the citizen participation and there is a portion
• that we outlined on the various 1911 Acts. Mr. Rosetti, who represents
Mr. Thompson's office, is with us and he will talk to you later on.
(Gave brief summary of the matter.)
Councilman Snyder:
The $55.00 per lot includes also
the houses that don't require
sidewalks?
Mr. Aiassa: Yes, the whole district whether or
not they have sidewalks in front
of their house. Mr. Williams and
Mr. Sorenson spent considerable time with Mr. Don Russell, who handles
all our'improvement acts, and we have come up with several possible so-
lutions. I think the main thing we are faced with here is if you want
just to clear the area to permit the children to have a free egress on
the parkway, this is the minimum. The crew could clear up maybe four
feet from the curb and leave that for a walkway for the students. The
other alternate if we do go into a sidewalk plan and allow a four and
one-half foot parkway, this would permit some of these homes to have
their ivy without having it completely removed and we may be able to
preserve some of the trees. Just clearing a pathway expedited within
a week by just removing the ivy three to four feet from the curb.
Councilman Snyder: What about the statement made last
week that we could give a Resolu-
tion of Intention stating that it
was for public safety and there would not be any hearings for protests.
Is that true?
Mr. Williams: Under a general sidewalk plan
you can't avail yourselves of
that but under the Majority Pro-
test Act, Section 2810 provides that upon finding that sidewalks are
necessary for the safety of school children you may avoid the Debt
Limit Act in its entirity as you can do in the case of a sanitary sew-
er and if there is a majority protest you may override the protests
by a four -fifths vote even though there is a majority protest:. There
is a difference between installing sidewalks generally as a sidewalk
improvement and installing sidewalks for the safety of school children.
You have the power to do it for the safety of school children.
Mr. Aiassa: There are three other possible
ways of putting sidewalks into
this area. One, the property
owner, through a volunteer plan, puts the sidewalks in with maybe some
participation of the City crew to clear the area. Secondly, the joint
plan between the City and the property owners on a fifty-fifty basis.
the third one is a three-way program where the City pays a third, the
property owner pays a third and the petitioners who are interested in
sidewalks for their children pay a third. There is another way and
that is for the City to determine the policy of using City funds to
• put the entire project in.
Councilman Towner: Does a petition have to be 60% of
the property in the area?
Mr. Rosetti: That is to move right into a
Resolution of Intention.
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VINCENT.AVENUE SIDEWALKS - Continued
Page Twenty -Eight
Mr. Williams: If you proceed under the-publid
safety theory to the school chil-
dren, I see some question as to
how you can even assess the property it is in front of. I don't see
any particular authority for assessing an entire neighborhood as dis-
tinguished from the property upon which the sidewalks abuts.
Mr. Rosetti: In Culver City, the property owners
protested that the school children
from an area were going to use it
and even though it benefited them, they didn't care whether or riot they
had it and they didn't think the City should make them pay for it.
Mr. Williams: But you spread an assessment on
the benefit of the property, not
the children.
Councilman Heath: Under this emergency act, what is
the length of time it would take
to put in sidewalks for the children.
Mr. Williams: It would take the some time it would
take you to conduct a sewer project,
about three months.
Councilman Snyder: There..is one other possibility and
that would be a one -cent tax rise.
Councilman Heath: I am not in favor of that.
Mayor Barnes: I don't favor this.
Councilman Heath: There are a number of lots in the
City that have sidewalks already.
When you place it on all residents
in the City you are taxing those people twice and I don't think is fair.
Mayor Barnes: I think we are going to have to do
something on a temporary basis in
the interim period. Mr. Brown and
the people in this area would do anything that they can to circulate a
petition or anything ,.+: +; .. or anything
that we desire. I feel we have to cut back some of the shrubbery and
put a walkway for the children on a temporary basis.
Councilman Heath: You have some houses there where
the people have spent considerable
time and money putting in land-
scaping and taking care of it and we should preserve as much of the land-
scaping as possible. On the other hand, it is.something that we have
to do; some provisions have to be made for a walk right away. It is
awfully hard to go to a home owner and say, "You spend $75.00 because
the children up the street have to go to school. They resent it and
you can't balme them. I feel we have to form a compromise. I think
if the property owners on V'in cent Avenue were approached by a repre-
sentative of the City who would tell them they had thirty days to either
clear a spot adjacent to the curb three feet wide or put in concrete
sidewalks. If they don't do it.in thirty days, the City will move in
and put it against their property. Can this be done?
Mr. Williams:
Yes.
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VINCENT AVENUE SIDEWALKS - Continued
Councilman, Heath:
Mr. Bob Brown:
Mr. Williams:
Page Twenty -Nine
It gives the people a chance to
protect their landscaping or put
in sidewalks.
I would like to invite your at-
tention to 5180 of the Code which
says you can assess property that
doesn't front on the improvement.
It depends on the circumstances
of the case.
Councilman Towner: It seems to me that it is unfair
to require the people on Vincent
Avenue to bear the entire burden
here for the benefit of petitioners who don't live on Vincent Avenue.
Secondly, the safety problem that we have on Vincent Avenue is repeated
throughout the City and the children that are subjected to this problem
here are also subjected to it on Sunset, Vine, and on many other City
Streets. In order to meet the immediate safety problem here, I think
it is wise to do what Councilman Heath and the City Manager suggested,
and that is on an interim basis provide a walkway for these children up
above the curb. I am sure this can be done without overly,damaging
property and I think also this is City right of way and we do have -the
right to do it and I think the problem is sufficient enough that it needs
to be done. I think this is an interim measure and then I think we should
take a long-term look at how we.are going to provide these sidewalks
throughout the City, and not just on Vincent Avenue.
Councilman Heath: I agree with Councilman Towner
except I think that the people
who own the property should be
given their choice as to where they want to take out their landscaping,
next to the curb or where the sidewalk has to go. Give them a choice of
next to the curb or of putting in the sidewalks.
Mayor Barnes: I think it should be in a line.
Councilman Jett: I don't think I would be in favor
of zig-zagging a sidewalk.
Councilman Heath: The concrete won't zig-zag.
Councilman Jett: I think in view of what we are
discussing here, that we should
determine as a policy whether we
are going to require sidewalks to be next to the curb or if we are
going to have a parking planting area and then the sidewalk. I per-
sonally feel that the safety of the children warrants more considera-
tion than we might have as far as landscaping is concerned. This is
on City property at the present time and I think it is reasonable to
request that this three-foot area be cleared.
Mayor Barnes: I feel the same way. I think this
temporary idea has got to be. How-
ever, I also feel that we should
respect the property owners. If they want to move any of their plants
or shrubs back, I don't'think the City wants to take it out because we
have an easement. I think we should allow each property owner to remove
that portion adjacent to the curb back three feet to save his plants.
This is only fair. However, I think all of the people here tonight re-
alize that we have to do something for the safety of the children.
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VINCENT AVENUE SIDEWALKS - Continued
Mr. Russell Pollack Mr. Brown was not contacted -by
1004 West Marbury nor has he spoken, to my know-
ledge, to any home owners along
Vincent. The cost to the home
owners along Vincent would probably be in excess of $300.00 each.
Since this is not a land improvement measure, it is a public safety
measure, I see no reason why the City is not liable as well as the
individual. If we should go ahead with this plan, I don't think it
would be necessary to run parallel sidewalkson both sides of each
street. The children would have to cross and cross at their origin
point and go down the one side.
Councilman Jett: I think the City should partici-
pate in any program along Vincent
Avenue in the sidewalks so that it
is not a burden on these people
simply because they live there.
Mr. Patton I question the use of the word
1005 Greendale "emergency" here tonight. This
has existed since the opening of
Vincent School two years ago. The
real emergency has been the parking of vehicles along that street there.
People are parking their cars there and going in car pools downtown. I
believe there is a cheaper way to at least get to the basis of this thing
right now and that is to put "No Parking" signs there. I haven't talked
to anyone who objects to the sidewalks but we do object to paying $350.00
for it. If it is a safety measure„ I think the City could pay for it
• out of the General Fund as they do a crosswalk.
Mr. E. W. Gibson When they opened that school they
1004 West Teresa put a "No Parking" sign out along
side my house. The kids walked
up on my lawn. If they put side-
walks in there who says they are
going to stay on them?
Counciman Towner: It is my understanding that there
was a request for an emergency
parking ordinance to be drafted.
Has any work been done on that?
Mr. Aiassa: We are achieving the same thing
with the barricades. If you want
to put the emergency parking, di-
rect your City Attorney to draw this
thing up tonight.
Councilman Towner: How long can we keep up this
interim measure?
Mr. Aia'ssa: For about thirty days, enough time
to get your ordinance adopted and
posted with signs.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
that the City Attorney be ordered to draft an emergency parking ordinance
with reference to both east and west sides of North Vincent Avenue to
eliminate parking between 7:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M., Monday through Friday.
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VINCENT AVENUE SIDEWALKS - Continued
Mr. Henry Fox
328 North Vincent
Councilman Snyder:
Mr. Aiassa:
These temporary
much good. The
them.
Page Thirty -One
signs aren't doing
kids walk around
The drier. can still see the chil-
dren behind the sign where he can't
see them behind the car.
Where do you want these signs, from
Workman to Puente?
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and car-
ried, that the City Manager be authorized to proceed with providing
interim walking space adjacent to the curb from Rowland Avenue south
to Workman Avenue on the west side of Vincent Avenue and from the last
sidewalk south of Greendale south to Workman on the east side of Vin-
cent Avenue and that such provision be subject to the cooperation of
the City Staff with home owners who live adjacent to this area, the
extent of the interim walkway to be a minimum of three feet adjacent
to the curb, and this is to be worked out on a voluntary basis with
the property owners so far as possible. (Councilman Heath voted "No".)
Councilman Towner: I think we can't solve this to
the individual satisfaction of
every person present in this
room. I have attempted to do something that is reasonable under the
circumstances. In the future we are going to have to study methods
of financing sidewalk construction. I think if there is this much
demand for it in the City we ought to raise your taxes and do it that
way.
Councilman Heath: I think you are going to wipe out
all of the landscaping here and I
don't think it is right.
Mayor Barnes: I don't think we can settle it this
evening.
Mr. Ford If this property belongs to the
1005 .West Dalewood City and it is yours, I think you
should pay for the paving of it
although it will benefit the home
owners. You say the property belongs to the City and that is true. If
you put in a sidewalk we are going to gain by it as a home owner be-
cause it is going to improve our property; I would say that if that
is the case and you come to me, I would be willing to pay my share but
I think that the City should foot most of the bill.
Councilman Heath:
What is our next procedure of
our next step in coming to a
permanent solution?
Mayor- Barnes: We are going to have to come up
with a way the Council would like
• to do it. This has to be a major-
ity vote of the City Council as far as how we are going to do it.
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VINCENT AVENUE SIDEWALKS - Continued
Mr. Aiassa: If we did not use a 1911 Act for
sewers this City would not be
sewered and it was accomplished
on a real overall program. Maybe sidewalks is the next one that we
have to do like this. I think it is the cheapest program for the people.
Councilman Towner:
it. We have several proposals which
over.
Let's not try to get into this
permanent solution tonight. Ob-
viously, we can't go into all of
I would like to have time to look
Councilman Jett: I think in order to make a study
of :this perhaps we should instruct
the City Manager to bring us a
study of this area so that we know what we are talking about in dollars
and cents. If you want to study the entire area, that would be fine,
but Vincent Avenue is our emergency area.
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the staff bring us a report on what the cost would be to do Vin-
cent Avenue in the areas from Puente Avenue to the interchange on
both sides of the street, on the areas that are unpaved and using City
standard sidewalk.
Mrs. Ruth Faeger Our P.T.A. group would like to
1026 West Thelborn say that our friends and neighbors
along Vincent Avenue should not
•foot the bill themselves. We think the City should pay for it or that
we will be more than happy to pay our cost, too.
RALPHS - ZODYS
Mr. Gene Kritchevsky:
I have a few notes concerning mat-
ters pertaining to a commercial
development at Azusa and Puente.
The Planning Commission and the City Council required the occupants to
comply with certain things prior to the opening of the building and
presumably prior to final inspection.
You remember on many occasions we
discussed truck traffic. It was said a sign would be put in back of
the building where we said there was a natural driveway for trucks to
go through there. I don't think that there is a day that goes by that
truck traffic is not going through and they are making stops in areas
where they are not supposed to be. The sign is barely discernible and
evidently no attempt has been made for compliance. Protests have been
made to the Police Department who say there is not much they can do.
Now about the lights. They started
out on top of the building where evidently they were not supposed to
have been shining straight back at our yards. Then the lights were
lifted down to reflect somewhat against the building. After consider-
able complaints they agreed to fix them. Evidently at no time did some-
body simply walk into one of our yards and take a sight at the building
over the wall and see at what point the lights would have to go where
it would still provide any necessary light and yet not be offensive.
We hear the lights are also supposed to be off after business hours.
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RALPHS - ZODYS - Continued
Mr. Gene Kritchevesky - Continued:
Next, we have the planter. We
had quite a to-do about the planter here and at the Commission. We
are going to be provided with a screen of protection. We found out,
• and this was after the building was opened, we were provided with,
aside from a few little shrubs which will take quite a while to get up
to the wall, two trees that are covering and screening roughly a 75-
foot length. I don't think any real effort was made to do that job
properly. Obviously the intent of the Council and the Commission has
not been complied with. There were supposed to be walls and they are
coming down between each section of the planted area so that there can-
not be through traffic of kids and dogs and such running through the
planters but the workmen got the trees into the various planters by
bringing them through one end and dragging them right along the end
through the end of the planter near our houses. Obviously, something
will have to be required to go there to attain the effect that the
Council and the Commission desire.
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•
We come to the question of power
poles. I think we were all here when a gentlman from the Edison Com-
pany got up and mentioned for the benefit of Zodys and Ralphs that no
changes were necessary in the power poles. Then it turned out that there
were going to be some changes necessary. Mr. Bolcof has a new and mag-
nificant pole; it is really a trio of poles. There was quite a bit of
comment about the possibility of putting the poles somewhere other than
squarely in back of Mr. Bolcof's house so they wouldn't have to look at
it. There was talk about putting it in back of the garage. After one
thing and another happened by hook and crook somehow it wound up again
directly in the center. I think at least one Counciban here has been
consulted in this matter prior to the final settling of the pole and
evidently gave some help in arranging the matter as far as a satis-
factory conclusion, but somehow or another such recommendations were
ignored, and it was plopped down dead center.
It has been brought to my attention
that Zodys were supposed to have 72,000 square feet and that they have
something like.90,000 square feet including some super structures that
I don't remember coming before the Council.
Also, a number of people on the
street have made complaints concerning outdoor trash barrels which
were quite easily discernible and presumably all such things were
going to be behind some point of concealment.
Obviously, the will or the.intent
of the Commission and the Council has fallen by the wayside. I al-
most have the feeling, considering everything that has happened, every-
thing that has not happened, and all the meetings that were arranged
to iron these things out that never came to pass or never bore fruit,
that you, as well as the property owners have been made to look like
fools.
Councilman Jett:
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Heath:
I think just about every point he
touched on here is covered in Mr.
Fowler's report and I think it is
being taken care of.
There is also a supplement report
from Mr. Joseph.
What are we going to do with the
trucks going in back of the buil-
ding?
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RALPHS - ZODYS - Continued
Mr. Aiassa:
We can demand that they block off
the area.
Councilman Reath:
•
I think We should 'require li Nikki-
dads across' the b6pk of th6'- atei'�...
at the division between Ralohigdnd
Zodys so that there can't be any
through traffic.
Councilman Towner:
I think it may be too latb"to'out
the barricade up but we certainly
can require them to cohformt6-this
requirement that there be no truck
traffic in the west 91leyo"' W6'dAn
take away their occupancy permit or whatever technique is . necessary.
Mayor Barnes:
Are the trucks that are going'ift''
there, are they trucks to service
the store or are they trucks that
carry building materials?'
Mr. Aiassa:
These service the store.
Mayor Barnes:
I think they should be regulated
the way we have it in the Minutes.
Councilman Towner:
I think that if we go to the owner
and tell him he either keeps trucks
out of there or loses his right to
• do business there. I think we have that authority. I think the same is
true about the other things. I think the City Staff is taking steps to
see that these things are complied
with.
Mrs. Dorr
The thing that I am most upset about
610 North Eileen
is the plants in the planter. The
Planning Commission definitely
stated that we were to have thick
and intense screening to screen us
from the commercial. The bushes they
have in there are going to grow about ten feet high and this will screen
us. from the block wall so the only
real screening we will ' have from the
building or the commercial will be
two trees. I am sure that they will
do it in about fifty years. I don't'
think we should be required to wait
that long.
Mr. Sol Bolcof We built buildings in El Monte and
630 North Eileen we had certain things w*
e had to do
and we couldn't do business there
until we got final inspection. It
seems funny Zodys were Allowed to open up without final inspection. If
they got final inspection the,building was not complete.
Mr.. Akassa:. If -the Council reads the re ' port that
there has -.not been :a final, on this
building and they have a temporary
•hook-up with the Edison Company, Bill Fowler says a Certificate of Oc-
cupancy isn't a requirement of the building Department .for a final inspec-
tion. It is only issued upon request of the owner of the building. This
is an item that they can or cannot request.'
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RALPHS - ZODYS - Continued
Mr. Bill Fowler:
•tificate of Occupancy, which they
have completed all the items. The
in all respects for life and limb
ment.
Page Thirty -Five
Our policy is to issue them anyhow
on a larger type building like this.
In this case, we have held the'Cer-
have requested, until such time they
building is proper, is entirely safe
which we are interested in our Depart -
Mr. Gene Kritchevsky: A quotation from one of the Plan-
ning Commissioners, which I think
is a very meaty remark, to the ef-
fect it is very obvious that somebody seems to have the idea that if
they can keep up this sort of approach to the whole business that sooner
or later these people, us, are going to get tired of coming back and
they can just do anything they like, and do things the way they want.
I think you realize that that is not going to be so, but aside from that,
I really feel that we would like to get rid of the job of policing this
whole thing, especially in view of the fact that almost everything that
has come to pass are things that we mentioned on the floor many months
ago that would almost certainly happen according to the approach that
we saw was being taken.
Mayor Barnes:
Mrs. Dorr:
• at the base of the planter that was
and there is no drain whatsoever.
I think you can be assured that we
are going to continue to check.
In the plans that Mr. McClellan
showed me of this planter he
showed me a very beautiful drain
to drain through the side walls
Mr. N.J.McNeal My part of the planter happens
636 North Eileen to be behind Ralphs or whoever
will build there. Therefore,
the planting in my planter has
not proceeded. At this point, I am not so sure that I wantexactly
what they are planting in the rest of the planters and I base this on
the fact that they are not even planting what the plan calls for. I
would like to know what the plan really calls for and maybe I will
take that instead of this other stuff.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS DAY
Mr. Flotten: This is to be October 9, 1962.
Mrs. Brown: I think you are aware of the League
of Women Voters. We would appreciate
this proclamation very much.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the Mayor be authorized to proclaim League of Women Voters Day on
October 9, 1962.
P. T. A. MONTH AND P. T. A. WEEK
Mr. Flotten: We have a request for the Mayor
to proclaim October as P.T.A.
Month, and October 17 to 24 as
P.T.A. Week. Their slogan is, "Strengthen your community today; join
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P.T.A. MONTH AND P.T.A. WEEK - Continued
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
that the Mayor be authorized to proclaim October as P.T.A. Month and
the week of October 17 through the 24th as P.T.A. Week.
INTRODUCTION
Councilman Jett: I -would like to introduce my son.
He has recently been commissioned
a Lieutenant in the'Army and we
are happy to have Richard with us
tonight.
CITY ATTORNEY
RESOLUTION NO. 2477 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA GRANTING
AN UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT AND AP-
PROVING A PRECISE PLAN" (Harker
Development)
Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Heath, Mayor Barnes
Noes: Councilmen Towner, Snyder
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2477.
RESOLUTION The City Attorney presented:
HELD OVER "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AUTHO-
RIZING MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
TO ATTEND CERTAIN MEETINGS AND
FUNCTIONS AND AUTHORIZING THE RE-
IMBURSEMENT OF EXPENSES"
Councilman Towner: We have an existing ordinance on
the books which provides $25.00
a month expenses to a City Coun-
cilman provided he signs an affidavit that he spent this money in the
City business. I am wondering why now someone is requesting more money
for City Councilmen expenses. I have no objection to an expense account
for City Councilmen which I think could be the $25.00 we now have and
that the Councilmen be required to submit an itemized expense account
•before he receives his check. If he wants to substitute that for the
existing affidavit I would be happy to go along with it.
Councilman
Heath:
The purpose of this was that if some-
one wanted to go downtown on
City
business that there wou l.d be
a City
car for him
if there was
one available. How this alternate got
in here,
I don't know, but it was
not the intent of the resolution in the
beginning.
This was to
permit the Councilmen to be covered by insurance and
use the
City car in
case he had a
place to go and needed a City car.
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RESOLUTION - HELD OVER - Continued
Mr. Williams: I drew it as I understood the re-
quest to be except that the re-
quest did not contain a statement
. about mileage for the use of your own car. It seemed to me that the
only consistent position you could take is this: That'if the $25.00
a month covered this use of your own car and then you elected to use
a City Car that the $25.00 did not cover it, otherwise you would use
the City car. It would seem to me only consistent to reach this con-
clusion. This was my own thought. I still think it is consistent.
Councilman Towner: If I understand it this was spon-
sored by Mr. Jett, Mr. Heath and
Mr. Barnes. I don't know what
the reason behind it is or any-
thing about it.
Councilman Jett: Why didn't I get a copy of this
resolution?
Councilman Heath: I think the money should pay for
all our expenses; however, I think
there are times when a Councilman
may need a City car and he should
be entitled to a City car.
Mr. Williams: The question was that the matter
was raised if anyone wanted to at-
tend a certain meeting. After the
Council meeting which would have authorized his attendance or anyone's
attendance he discovered he could attend. Now, the question is-, there
is nothing that has authorized anyone.to go and the general rule is
that a Councilman could only be reimbursed for expenses and can only
represent the City if he has been authorized to go. I presume that
if you are authorized to attend functions not covered by the $25.00,
so I took it this was to be a blanket authorization depending upon the
integrity of each Councilman to exercise his own judgement properly as
to whether or not it would be to the interest of the City to attend
such a function. The $25.00 payment was initiated by Resolution No.
1919; Section 4 of that resolution says reimbursement herein authorized
be deemed to include all the ordinary and usual routine expenses of the
City Council but shall not be deemed to include exceptional or extra
ordinary expenses incurred while travelling or attending authorized
special activities and meetings. I may have gone farther than requested
to go; I have made an assumption.
Councilman Heath: I would like to make some changes.
I would like to strike out limiting
this within the County of Los Angeles.
The second thing is in the second section, the last part. I would like to
strike out the City Manager and strike out verbally where the wording
will read t'. . . shall report the fact of such attendance and give a
report of the meeting in writing or orally at a Council meeting." The
next section I would like to knock off is the last part regarding the
. mileage and Section 4 It. . .eshall be reimbursed for excessive, excep-
tional and extraordinary. . ►,
Councilman Towner: I haven't had a copy of this. I
might have misplace4it. I would
like a copy of it.
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RESOLUTION - HELD OVER - Continued
Page Thirty -Eight
Councilman Snyder: I am against this for this reason.
I think even though all the Council-
men could be trusted not to overuse
this privilege, we are setting up a policy for future Councilmen to fol-
low and I think it could be subject to too much abuse and I can't think
of any time when I could have needed a City car.
Councilman Towner:
I have gone to meetings all over
the County and used my own car
and we all do that and I assume
that this $25.00 was to cover all this. I never itemized'my expenses
but I think $25.00 should cover it. I think this ought to be limited
to just the use of an automobile, if necessary under an extraordinary
circumstance.
Mr. Aiassa: As it is now the thing falls in
my lap and it is quite question-
able as a policy matter and under
the instruction of Mr. Williams he said if he can put this in a resolu-
tion form so I don't stand in the middle for the full responsibility.
Mayor Barnes:
Mr. Williams:
Mayor Barnes:
ORDINANCE NO. 755
ADOPTED
I think with these suggestions I
would like to have Mr. Williams
draw up another resolution.
Why don't you hold it over for
further discussion among your-
selves since two of the Council-
men haven't seen this yet.
This is a good suggestion, Mr.
Williams.
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA IN-
CREASING THE MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT
ON FAIRGROVE AVENUE"
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
ordinance be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said ordinance was given No. 755.
RESOLUTION NO. 2478
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA DENYING
UNCLASSIFIED USE PERMIT NO. 66"
(Zachary and Hull)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2478 - Continued
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: Councilman Heath
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2478.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO
AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES"
(Zone Change No. 235, Zachary and
Hull)
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced. (Councilman Jett voted "no".)
RESOLUTION NO. 2479 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPRO-
VING PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO.
333" (City initiated.)
Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll.call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2479.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEN-
DING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL
CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREM-
ISES" (Zone Change No. 231 -
Clemons)
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and carried,
to waive further reading of the.body of said ordinance.
Councilman Heath: Mr. Flotten, on your list for
annexations you have this Clemons
Annexation as being held up. The
Minutes of the 17th instruct that we proceed with this annexation.
Councilman Snyder:
That was probably made up before
this was passed.
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ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION - Continued
Mr. Flotten:
Page Forty
We are going to proceed with that.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
The City Attorney presented:
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMEN-
DING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL
CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN
PREMISES"- (Zone Change No. 234-
City Initiated)
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to waive further reading of said ordinance.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, that said
ordinance be introduced.
RESOLUTION NO. 2480
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Attorney presented:
"A,RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING
RESOLUTION NO. 2421 APPROVING PRE-
CISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 26, REVISION
2" (Shulman)
Hearing no objections, we will
waive futher reading of the body
of said resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2480.
ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION
The City Attorney presented
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL -CODE SO
AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES"
(Zone Change No. 227 - Allen &
Snell)
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman'Jett, and carried,
to waive further reading of the body of the ordinance.
•Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that said ordinance be introduced. (Councilmen Towner and Snyder
voted "No.")
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RESOLUTION NO. 2481
The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA GIVING
NOTICE OF PROPOSED ANNEXATION TO
THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA,
OF'CERTAIN UNINHABITED TERRITORY
DESCRIBED HEREIN ADJACENT AND CON-
TIGUOUS TO THE PRESENT CITY LIMITS
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AND GIVING
NOTICE OF TIME AND PLACE FOR HEARING
OF PROTESTS THERETO" (Southerly
Annexation No. 177)
Mayor Barnes:
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2481.
RESOLTUION NO. 2482
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City. Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY'OF WEST COVINA REQUES-
TING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF
THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES TO EX-
PEDITE CONSTRUCTION OF PROPOSED
ANAHEIM-PUENTE ROAD"
Hearing no objections,, we will
waive further reading -of the
body of the resolution.'
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councimmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2482.
CLAIM FILED
Mr. Williams: A claim was filed by R. W. Rick-
abaugh and Ruth A. Rickabaugh and
it has never been denied by of-
ficial action. I would suggest that the claim be denied.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the claim of R. W. Rickabaugh and Ruth A. Rickabaugh be denied and
referred.to our insurance carrier, and that the claimants be notified
of the rejection.
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CITY ATTORNEY - Continued
CLAIM FILED
Mr, Williams:
We have another claim in the
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amount of $60,000.00 against
us plus other incidental damages
by Virginia Lee Hoffland. This claim has been referred to the insurance
company. I suggest also that
this claim be denied and in both instances
that the claimant be notified
of rejection.
Motion by Councilman Jett, seconded
by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that the claim of Virginia Lee
Hoffland be denied and that the claimant
be notified of the rejection.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS
FIRE STATION
Mr. Aiassa: I would like authorization from
the Council to remove a pole in
the middle of our proposed fire
station site. The Edison Company wants $480.00 and the Telephone Com-
pany want $670.00 and I can't make a decision on the pole on Puente
Avenue until we decide on where the driveway is going to be. I need
authorization to issue purchase orders and authorize this to be done.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, that the City
Manager be authorized to issue purchase orders to the Telephone Com-
pany on removal of its pole in the amount of $670.00 and to the Edison
Company for changing its pole in the amount of $480.00. Motion passed
on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
FIRE TRUCK SIGN
Mr. Aiassa: This is about the sign for. the .
antique fire truck to be used
in the parade in Azusa.
Councilman Snyder: Use your own judgement on this.
Councilman Towner: If this truck is designed to be
used in parades, we ought to put
a permanent sign on it.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that the
City Staff be authorized to install the wooden sign on the fire truck
in accordance with the plan presented to the Council tonight. Motion
passed on roll call as follows:
• Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: Councilman Heath
Absent: None
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued
POLICE OFFICERS OF OTHER
CITIES ENTERING WEST COVINA
. Councilman Jett: What position are we in when police
officers of another city come into
our City? Saturday night there was
an incident here in the City which our Police Department was requested to
go out on a call and they arrived at this property and there were a group
of boys playing around a little bit and pretty soon there were a couple
of our police cars arriving on the scene and pretty soon more boys ar-
rived and about that time up came four motorcycle police officers from
Monterey Park. Just what was going on, I never have been able to,find
out. It was on Francisquito, I believe.
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Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Heath:
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Jett:
Mr. Aiassa:
CALL FROM MR. BOWKER
Councilman Jett:
Mayor Barnes.:
GLENDORA AVENUE
They must have been off duty.
In uniform? On motorcycles?
Was this in the City limits of
West Covina?
Yes. This was at Mr. Armstrong's
house.
We'll check that out and see.
Mr. Bowker has called me several
times and wants to know what are
we doing about his land that we
have condemned. What are we going
to do about this?
There is a memo on the agenda
from Mr. Aiassa on this. We
will have a report on it soon.
Councilman Jett: I would like to see the City
Manager instructed to make a
study and give us a report on
the cost of improving Glendora Avenue between Herring and Cameron
on the east side of the street. Somebody is going to be killed there
and I think the City is going to be held responsible. I think the
City Manager should be instructed to bring in a study of this problem.
Mayor Barnes:
• MAP FOR HOWARD ERICKSON
Councilman Jett:
Mr. Aiassa:
I'll give you a report by Mr.
Aiassa on that.
Mr. Aiassa, would you send Howard
Erickson a map of what we are
going to do to his buildings?
All right.
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CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
UNITED NATIONS DAY
• Mr. Flotten:
Councilman Snyder:
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Towner:
Page Forty -`Four
This is a request to proclaim Oc-
tober 24th as United Nations Day.
I would prefer we didn't have the
necessity of a public hearing on
this problem. My position hasn't
changed from last year.
My position is I'm against it.
I think I've heard everything
they are going to say.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that the
Mayor be authorized to proclaim October 24th as United Nations Day.
Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: Councilman Jett
Absent: None
COUNCIL MEETING OF THE 29TH
Mayor Barnes: On October 22nd we are going to
• adjourn because of the League of
California Meeting. Do we have
to adjourn this meeting tonight to then or can we do this on the ad-
journed meeting of the 15th?
Mr. Williams: You can't do either. You can't
adjourn any meeting to a date
beyond a regular meeting so you
will have to adjourn the meeting of the 22nd to the 29th. You can
announce in advance that it is going to be adjourned.
RESOLUTION NO. 2483 The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, IN
THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES DECLA-
RING SUPPORT FOR THE COUNTY PARKS
AND RECREATION CHARTER AMENDMENT"
Mayor Barnes: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
• Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2483.
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POMONA MEETING
Mayor Barnes: There will be a meeting in.Pomona
and it might be worthwhile atten-
ding and that is to revitalize the
old center. There is going to be a meeting on November 16 and 17. They
want us to let them know. All of the City Council is invited. If you
like, I'll have copies of the letter sent to you.
DEMANDS.
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by..Councilman Towner., to approve
demands totalling $267,619.81 as listed on demand sheets B-112, C-264
through C-266. This total includes fund transfers of $61,412.46 and
bank transfers of $125,000.00. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that there being no further business, this meeting be adjourned at 1:45
A. M. until October 15, 1962 at 8:00 P.M.
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Mayor
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