05-07-1962 - Regular Meeting - Minutes0
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MINUTES OF ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA
May 7, 1962
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Barnes at 8:10 p.m. in the
West Covina City Hallo The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Council-
man Heath, with the invocation given by Councilman Towner.
RnT.T. rAT.i.
Present: Mayor Barnes, Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder
(from 8:35 Pa M.)
Others Present: Mr, George Aiassa, City Manager
Mr. Robert Flotten, City Clerk
Mr, Thomas Dosh, Public Services Director
Absent: Mr. Harry Co Williams, City Attorney
Mr. Harold Joseph, Planning Director
CITY CLERK
RESOLUTION NO. 236.3
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ACCEP-
TING A CERTAIN WRITTEN INSTRUMENT
AND DIRECTING THE RECORDATION THEREOF"
(Otis Bo Harbert and. Gertrude Harbert)
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: Councilman Snyder
Said resolution was given No. 236-30
APPLICATION FOR DANCE CONTEST
FROM SCOA
Mr. Flotten: We have an application from SCOA for
permission to conduct a dance contest
on May 12 from 2:00 to 5:30 P.M.
They will serve hot dogs and cold drinks. This is for one day only
on the north side of the SCOA parking lot.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried, that permission be granted to SCOA to conduct a dance contest
on May 12, 1962, from 2:00 to 5:30 P.M. subject to inspection by
Safety Committee.
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CITY CLERK - Continued
REQUEST FROM ST. CHRISTOPHER'S
CHURCH TO HOLD BAZAAR
• Mr. Flotteno We have an application from St.
Christopher's Men's Club, Ste"
Christopher's'Council of Catholic
Women and the Italian Catholic Federation'for permission to conduct
a bazaar on June 2 and June 3 from 12:00 to 10.30 on each dayo
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Townej°, and-car-
ried, that the chuch be given permission to hold their bazaar on
June 2 and 3 from 12:00 to 10:30 subject to the inspection of the
Safety Committee.
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES WEEK
Mr. Flotteno
Mayor Barnes:
NATIONAL VEHICLE CHECK MONTH
0 Mr. Flotteno
Mayor Barnes:
SAN DIMAS ANNEXATION
Mr, Flotteno
Councilman Towner:
Mayor Barnes:
NEW MAYOR'S SIGNATURE ON
BANK ACCOUNTS
Mr. Flotteno
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We have a request for the Mayor to
proclaim May 7 to 13, 1962 as Public
Employees Week.
If there are no objections, I will
proclaim the week of May 7 to th6'13th
Public Employees Week. So proclaimed,
We have a request from Police Chief
Sill to declare the month of May as
National Vehicle Check Month. This
is in line with our safety campaign
we have every year,
I think this has been very good in
the past. If you have no objections,
I will so proclaim.
This is the latest addition to the
City of San Dimas.
That is going to be some city when
they get through with it. That just
about finishes off the north side of
the freeway.
I don't believe we have any objections.
We have a request from -the banks
to approve the new Mayor's signa-
ture for our bank accounts,
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CITY CLERK - Continued
Mayor's Signature - Continued
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and car-
• tried, that Claude L. Barnes be authorized to sign on our bank accounts
at thb California Bank and the Bank of America for the City of West
Covina.
MEETINGS ON THE GENERAL PLAN
Mr. Flotten:
Do you want to discuss the proposed
meeting dates on the general plan?
Councilman Snyder entered the chambers at 8:35 P.M.
Mayor Barnes: Mr. Aiassa asked me this evening
what nights we would prefer to
hold hearings on the general plan.
We originally scheduled June 4 for the first meeting. I would like
to know'how the Council feels about continuing these meetings to other
nights if there is an occasion. We have several people c®ming-in"who
haven't been heard on this first night. The suggestion was that they
dates be June 4, 13 and 27 and these would be held at the Sunset'School
for the convenience of the public. If this meets with your approval or
if you have any ideas, I would like to get your suggestions.
Councilman Towner: The only question that I would have
is, would this coincide with our
• budget? Normally our budget hearings
are in Juneo
Mr. Aiassa: We would step them up a little bit
this year. I think we will be done
with the staff recommendations by
another two weeks. -We are two weeks
ahead,
Mayor Barnes: We don't know that we will need
three nights, but we are going to
try to reserve those three nights
in.case*we do need them. If there is no objections to this, I would
like to ask Mr. Flotten to go ahead and reserve these three nights.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS
FIRE HYDRANTS RATE REPORT
Mr. Aiassa: They are submitting the agreement
that was submitted to us by Subur-
ban Water System for review. Chief
Wetherbee broke down the hydrant agreement into details and also what
the monthly rates are from the other six cities. We have a report
• here of what the various water companies are charging us here in West
Covina. (Mr. Aiassa read the report.) Suburban Water Company has come
in with a requested new agreement for $2.50 a hydrant.
Councilman Heath: Suppose we refuse it?
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
Fire Hydrants - Continued
Mr. Aiassa:
Mayor Barnes:
Mr. Aiassa:
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They could probably -go to-P.U.C.
for a hydrant service cost.
Is there any other way we could go
other than refuse this?
We might jack up our franchise and
get more money from them but we'are
having a problem with present fran-
chise granted many years ago.
Mayor Barnes: It looks to me like we are paying out-._.
quite a bit more than we are receiving
on this particular water company and
I quite agree with Councilman Heath that this figure doesn't look quite
right.
Councilman Heath: On this party where the City pays
for repair to the damaged hydrants,
is that written in our contract?
Mr. Aiassa: We have a rather vague one now. It
is a'very old one, and we usually
have to take the responsibility for
it and the one that isn't spelled out. They want to include in the
new agreement the shut off valve, etc,
Councilman Heath:
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Heath:
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Heath:
We have it by parity.
There isn't one City in California
that has a uniform hydrant rental
charge.
What is meant under these repairs,
City Water Department does the re-
pair at no cost; no cost to who?
To the Fire Department.
I certainly would refuse this request
Mr. Aiassa: Why don't we do this: Accept this
report and suggest that the City
Manager and the City Attorney review
this and see what the legal action is on the possibility or maybe re-
ducing and fighting any increase of this type and make a report to you
for your future meeting.
Councilman Jett: I would certainly want more infor-
mation before we approve anything
like this.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that we reject the request of the Suburban Water Company for an increase
in hydrant rental and that the City Manager and the City Attorney study
the request and make a report to the Council.
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued
NORTH FIRE STATION REPORT
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Mr. Aiassa. As the Council already knowse I
• have a letter here dated April
24 from Mr. Bill Sorenson re
West Covina vs. E.B.Snoddy Corporation re. the North Fire Station,
I talked to Mr. Sorenson and he thinks the earliest time we dan.ge t
this Allen and Snell on the Court docket books is some. time'in Sep-
tember and it will be from three to four mon.ths before it will,be
heard.- There are two other ways that this could be'done.- One, if
Allen and Snell would permit us to have certain acquisitional rights,
we can apply for the proper zoning and maybe start some preliminary
construction. It would have to be executed outside of the condemna
Lion proceedings. The only question is if the court becomes unreason-
able and grants them some ridiculous judgment we are stuck. The other
idea was that Mr. Williams and I had a meeting with Allen and Smell
and Mr. Adams was present. They have reviewed their original presen-
tation and were suggesting the possibility of possible rezoning of
the remaining parcel. We told them at that time that neither myself
or the Council representative have any rights or authority to state
that we could but that we -would report this to the Council and then
the Council could go from there. This we did dpo
Mayor Barnes. I wonder if possibly I could appoint
a committee of two Councilman to
talk to these gentlemen along with
Mr. Williams and find out what can be done. Set up a meeting some
evening and maybe we can resolve this without going to court and waiting
all this period of time which would be some time in September.
Mr. Aiassa. I think that is .fine if we want to
have another meeting with the two
owners. I believe at our last meeting
we left it open subject to the Council°s review and follow up and if the
Council feels that we might make another approach with these two property
owners, it might be worth the effort.
Councilman Towner. This is one way to approach it. On
the other hand, I think we ought to
move ahead on the court program be-
cause I don't, think we ought to pay them any more than this thing is
reasonably worth. I don't think we ought to let ourselves be black-
mailed to allow zoning on the adjacent property in order to get the
thing started,
Mayor Barnes. I would like to appoint Councilmen
Snyder and Heath to this Committee.
We also should have the City Manager
and the City Attorney in on this
meeting,
Councilman Snyder: Do you think there is anything else
to be learned by this?
. Mayor $.arnes. I would like to see it resolved.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
NORTH FIRE STATION - Continued
Mr. Aiassa, At .least we will make another
pass with the owners and maybe
they had a change of mind. This
property is going to -be tied up
sometime by litigation by condem-
nation.
Mayor Barnes, I thank there are several things
they can air in talking to Allen
and Snell and possibly we could
get a better feeling if we have
a committee appointed,
Mr. Aiassa, I will set up a date,
Councilman Towner, I think we should stick to the view-
point of the highest and best.use of
the property.
Mr. Aiassa, The highest and best uses are rele-
vent to the zoning. I need action
on the Snoddy property. Are we
going to put this in acquisition? He has committed himself; the con-
demnation is rendered; I have to deposit a check for $15,012.50 with
the County Clerk.
Councilman Towner, It doesn't seem fair to Snoddy to
hold him up,
Councilman Heath: I would be in favor of sending him
the check,
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, to authorize
the City Finance Officer to draw a warrant for $15,012.50 in care of
the County Clerk and place it in deposit for the Snoddy Corporation
for property for the fire station, Motion passed on roll call as
follows,
Ayes, Councilmen Towner, Heath,
Noes, None
Absent, None
Councilman Jett,
ANNEXATION STUDY
North -of the Freeway
Snyder, Mayor Barnes
I will abstain,
Mr. Aiassa, We have met with the property owners
and I suggest that this matter be
turned over to the Annexation Com-
mittee and a meeting be set up between the interested owners and the
Annexation Committee. We have done all the reviewing of everything
they wanted. They are ready to meet with the Council representatives.
Mayor Barnes, I believe I stated that Councilman
Heath and myself are on this com-
mittee. If you set up a meeting
with these people from this area let us know what date and time. I
suggest it be in the evening. I feel this would be more convenient
for Mr. Heath.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
ANNEXATION STUDY - Continued
Mr. Aiassa: There was one comment and that -
was that we were supposed to have
a Planning Commission representa-
tive. I think in our joint meeting we suggested the possibility of
having one Commissioner just to represent the Planning Commission be-
cause they have to review it and make a report.
Mayor Barnes-,
Maybe in a second meeting, yes,
it would be necessary.
I think not at this time; maybe
later on when we get into the
possibility of the annexation.
but at this time, I don't believe
Councilman Heath-, There is a possibility there wouldn't
be any other meeting with the proper-
ty owners, If the Committee met with
the property owners and makes a report back to the Council, which is sat-
isfactory and.the Council then tells the property owners to proceed,
there is a chance that there wouldn't be any other meeting with the
property owners.
Mayor Barnes -
Councilman Snyder-,
Yes, but I don't feel I want to
appoint a Planning Commissioner
on the Annexation Committee at
this time.
They feel it would be a good idea.
Mayor Barnes-, Possibly there is a way to find
out how Covina proceeds with their
annexations of which they have
done many in the past. I don't know if they have an Annexation Com-
mittee or what their setup is but I think it might be a good idea to
find out
Councilman Snyder-,
Mr. Aiassa-,
Mayor Barnes-,
Could we have a report on how
Covina does it plus some other
cities?
It could be done.
What I would like to see if first
we talk to the people and see what
their interests are and bring a
report back to the Council. Then
I think is the time for the staff
to do their work,
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Heath, and car-
ried, that the staff prepare a report on how Covina and some other
selected cities go about their annexation program and recommendations
are also requested.
Councilman Snyder-,
Councilman Towner-,
I think we should have the whole
responsibility but I think we need
avenues for getting information,
It is my understanding that we
authorized a study of perimeters.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
Councilman Heath:
Mayor Barnes:
Councilman Towner:
Mayor Barnes:
Councilman Snyder:
Mr. Aiassa:
Mayor Barnes:
0 Mr. Aiassa:
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I wish we would review. again or
reconsider again the fact' of -a
Planning Commissioner because I
don't think it is fairs
This is policy and I do think it
should remain with the Council.
Maybe you could -soled this by.
appointing a Planning Commissioner
who would just sit in and have no
part in the policy making.
I don't want to see it at this -time
because I feel 'it is the duty of
the Council to do these things.
I think we should strongly consider
a Planning Commissioner on the An-
nexation Committee.
If you like, they can have a repre-
sentative sit in on the Annexation
Committee.
Whichever Planning Commissioner
it might be, listen for information
only?
You can so direct the Chairman that
this is the only propose4 for which
you are inviting him.
Councilman Heath: I think'we did establish a general
policy in a meeting here one time
to the extent there wasn't,anything
to the south of the City that we were interested in; we weren't inter-
ested in anything over to the east and southeast; and if there is any-
thing popping up between�Covina and.West Covina we would consider it.
I think this was a policy that was established.
Councilman Towner: I don't recall it that way. The
only policy to the south that I
recall was a number of years back,
we drew the line at Fra'ncisquito.after having looked at the already
built up area just south of its
Councilman Heath: The area to the south we were not
interested in,
Councilman Towner: I think that is true if you put
some limits on its There were some
areas to the south that'we were not
• interested in,
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
ANNEXATION 158 PROPOSAL
Mr. Aiassa: The staff has provided you with
• a preliminary report and after
reading erpts from the -last -
joint meeting I believe it is now in the lap of the Annexation Com-
mittee. Do you people want to meet. with the property owners or do
you want the staff to go into a super critical report versus the one
that they submitted as their counter proposal?
Councilman Heath: I would like a little -'bit more time
on this. I think there are"a few
angles that we can work with -and I "
think there is a possibility we might be being pressured into something
when actually the pressure is on the other side. I would like to re-
v,ieiv- it further.
Mayor Barnes:
Mr. Aiassa: °
Councilman Heath:
• Mr. Aiassa:
that we are holding it up. We are
to the Annexation Committee.
FOUR-YEAR STREET LIGHTING REPORT
Is there any objection to holding
this over?
No. It might be advisable if we
have 'the Annexation Committee meet
with the staff.
I would do that but I would like
to get some information from out-
side somewhere.
The only thing, I would like to
mention to -the Council is that
we don't want to tell these people
telling them that we are giving this
Mr. Aiassa: I spent a little time with Council -
Man Jett to bring him up to date on
this. I think he has a fair idea.
I have a letter from the engineer, Lawrence Thompson, addressed to me
re: this subject. I believe the final resume of this report was sub-
mitted to you and the staff has recommended that we undertake project
method B as indicated in the report. The Council can demand lights
in any of these unlighted areas without any recourse from the owner,
technically. If you decide to light this area, some of these people
might come in and raise a fuss if they realize that the lights were
put in without them knowing of it, We thought we would send out cards
asking the people whether or not they wanted the .lights.
Councilman Heath: I don't think that is a good idea.
Councilman Snyder: How much does it cost each home
owner?
Mro Aiassa: It is going to average a total cost
of $32.51 and three annual assess-
ments of $10.84. The City is put-
ting money into this project.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
STREET LIGHTING REPORT - Continued
Mayor Barnes: In these areas that we are con-
sidering, we will have a large
area in one district to light
and I feel that by post card and a poll of whether the people want
the street lights, is a good idea public relation wise. If we get
a good indication, we could then proceed and hold hearings.
Mro Aiassa: You don't hold hearingso
Mayor Barnes: I think that is all the more reason
for sending out these post cards to
see how interested the people.are
in street lights in a particular
district.
Councilman Towner: I think this program under 11B1/ is
the most reasonable one and I think,
too, if you accomplish it in two to
four large districts a year and no more than that, we could probably
handle it. If you go more than that you are going to have too much
public relations. I think advanced public relations certainly is de-
sirable. It is not only a matter of asking them do you want them or
don't you, I think something should be said to them about the desira-
bility of street lights. We have studies that I think indicate that
these are important from a safety factor, policing factor and other
factors.
Councilman Jett: I think you.will have about as many
people who will object to street
lights as you will have in favor
of them. We should poll them and it should be presented as Councilman
Towner suggested, that we explain the reason for street lights to them
and not just what we are going to do, put them in because we want to
put them in.
Councilman Snyder,
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Councilman Heath:
I thank they should be polled, but
I think there is no point in polling
them unless you explain the benefits
of lights.
I feel we should do a public rela-
tions job in circulating the cards
to find out the needs or the:,peoples
wishes plus I think we should inform
them as to the needs and why we would
like to do this,
For a point of clarification, I am
not against public relations in
this matter; I am against taking a
vote whether they want them or don't
want them.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and car-
ried, to accept Plan "Bf1 so we can launch off on this light idea, to
accept the Public Services Department report dated January 10, 1962,
and accept Mr, R. E. Pontow and Mr. Thomas Dosh°s recommendation that
this public relations program be undertaken before launching on an
expensive program,
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
UNCURBED AND UNGUTTERED AREAS
• Mr. Aiassa: You have received a copy from Mr.
Sorenson known as the Short Form
1911 Act and there is also a letter
which was addressed to Mr. Lathrop which gives you the proceedings on
this type of a program than can be undertaken. We have some streets
where we have curbs but no gutters. We want to do a systematic plan
at least on the major streets. I think the major streets should be
taken under consideration for a study by the staff as our pilot. This
would start the proceedings for the Short Form 1911 Act. You are going
into a three-year street improvement program.
Mayor Barnes: If we are going to start into this
problem, maybe the Council should
do what they did last year and go
out on a field trip and look at
these areas..
Mr. Aiassa: I want the staff now to make a pre-
liminary report so you will have
something to look at. I would like
to have authorization that the staff be authorized to make a preliminary
study to launch the first Short Form 1,911 Act on the major streets which
will be reviewed by the City Council on a field trip.
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried, that the staff be directed to make a preliminary study of the
major streets that now have uncurbed and unguttcred parcels and make
a report to the Council for a field trip.
TEEN-KAN-TEEN BUILDING PROGRAM
Mr. Aiassa: You have received a report from these
people and I believe they are sincere
and want to proceed. I have a memo
dated May 1, 1962 addressed to me from Robert So Gingrich, Director,
Recreation and Parks Department. I would like this spread in the Minutes.
lining their building program
finance; and the Recreation &
gards to the request.
"Atta'ched is a communication from
'the Teen Kan Teen Foundation out -
proposal; a statement of T-K-T
Park Commission's approval with re -
"The T-K-T group is asking for
permission to proceed with Phases
I and II, as shown on the development plans. They have finances,
or confirmed commitments, to adequately cover their requests. Com-
pletion of Phases I and II, estimated at 90 days, will make the
building useable for a number of activities. It should also
• create new interest on the part of the public for the programs
being planned to complete Phases III and IV,
"I have personally served on
the Building Committee, along
with Recreation and Park Commissioner Bill Johnson, and feel
that this Committee has thoroughly analyzed all phases of .the
building program. They have gone into complete detail on all
items and spent many hours with contractors in acquiring true
costs and estimates.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
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TEEN-KAN-TEEN BUILDING PROGRAM - Continued
"General Contractor Bill Wilson
has accepted the responsibility for the building program and has
been very active in working with Building Committee Chairman,
Chuck Keim and other.Committee members, Bob Nordstrom and Ken
Vernon. A realistic approach has been developed to assure the
development program.
Committee will, be,present at the
questions regarding this request
mendation that the Teen Kan Teen
to proceed with Phases�I and II
"Members of T-K-T and the Building
May 14th Council meeting to answer
to proceed with Phases I and IIo
"It is this Department's recom-
Foundation be granted permission
as proposed."
Mr. Alassa: This requires Council action. They
have a bonafide contractor now, I
would like to have one meeting with
the general contractor, Bill Wilson, and give him an idea of how the
Council feels about semi parcel construction. I think he should be
advised that the Council is rather concerned about this type of a
development on public property. It could be a public hazard and every-
thing else if.not completed properly.
Mayor Barnes: As I understand it, Mr. Wilson was
• concerned before he would agree to
do this, that -by doing these in
sequence of Phase I and Phase II that when you come to Phase III it
wouldn't be going back and picking up something like wiring and that
sort of thing. I think Mr. Wilson is well aware of what he is ex-
pected to do in these first two phases so that it isn't prohibitive
when he starts doing Phase III.
Mr. Aiassa:
to contact the representative of
thing conforms,
I would like to make a suggestion
that the Council appoint a liason
person that will be responsible
this group to be sure that every -
Councilman Nett: They mentioned in their report
that they have all the funds, but
as you get into it a little fur-
ther, they do not have all the funds to complete this job. It is
pledges, and although they have reason to believe they are firm
pledges, however, they do not have the money Iand I think that before
any permission should go any further, to be sure the money is there
to do what they say they are going to do.
Mayor Barnes: I think probably what we should do
in this case is, they could do
• Phase I and,when the pledges come
in, then do Phase II. I don°t,feel that I would be wanting to grant
phases until they actually had the money in hand to do the second
phase,
Councilman Towner: Are they asking permission to go
ahead with both phases?
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
TEEN-KAN-TEEN - Continued
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Towner:
Mayor Barnes:
Councilman Towner:
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Towner:
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Yes. Phase II is $4,200.00 and
Phase I is $3,900.00. They have
$5,000.00 in cash.
Certainly we could grant them per-
mission on Phase I and tell them to
come back for the second phase.
Councilman Towner, would you be
willing to serve on this committee
as the liaison between the City
Manager and the Teen -Kan -Teen?
I would be willing to do that if
I knew what was required of me,.
I would want one person to be
designated so if we have any
difficulties this person would
represent the Council.
All right.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Heath, and car-
ried, that the Teen -Kan -Teen Foundation be given authorization to
proceed on Phase I of their building program, subject to the condi-
tion that such building program comply with all City requirements.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
to designate Councilman Towner as the official liaison to represent
the Council in this matter.
SALE HANIFAN PROPERTY
Mr. Aiassa: I was going to bring this up on
the public sale and I would like
to make two observations first.
One, we might constitute a delay until the theater is built across
the street; and secondly, that Mr, Frank Bowker might want to do some
exchanging in that we are going to extend Valinda north of the wash.
With the Council°s permission, I would like to have authorization to
meet with Mr. Bowker and also with the representative of the Shell
Company next door; public properties can be disposed of other than a
public sale if the fair market value is maintained as suggested by
the City Attorney.
Councilman Heath: How are you going to establish a
fair market value?
Mr. Aiassa: We already have it. We think if
we delay it a little longer, we
might be able to get a better mar-
ket value out of it.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried,. that the City Manager be authorized to discuss with Mr, Frank
Bowker the possibility of an exchange of property and with the Shell
Company for the possibility of acquiring the property.
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CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS - Continued
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WALNUT-MERCED SPRINKLING SYSTEM AGREEMENT
Mr. Aiassa; We have the agreement between the
City of West Covina and -the -West
Covina School District on Walnut
Merced Park. (Read agreement,)
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried, that the.Mayor and the City Clerk be authorized to sign the
agreement with the West Covina Unified School District for the sprinkler
system on the school portion of the Walnut -Merced Park.
FIRE PROTECTION -WATER MAINS
(Willow, Garvey, Merced, Van Horn area)
(Fire Chief°s report on April 17, 1962)
Mr. Aiassao You have the Fire Chief°s report
of April 17, 1962. In his report
he recommends that you accept one
of these basic plans. He has outlined Study Plans A,B and Co Of all
the plans that are submitted here, he recommended that the most feasible
one would be Plan Bo I will go along with the Fire Chief on Plan Bo
Chief Wetherbee feels that under the circumstances you have a sub-
standard development as it is, and that Plan B would at least bring
it up to a reasonable standard so that it is not the best but it is
not the worst. These people now have an easement up to those proper-
ties already,
Councilman Heath; If you run that water line up that
easement, that easement may not be
open.
Mr. Aiassa; The water line is already there.
Councilman Towner; The Plan B will be paid for by
the property owners as they develope
the lots?
Mr. Aiassa; That is right. We would develope
this plan as our precise plan of
water mains and hydrants and as
each one of these lots come in they would participate on a percentage
basis.
Councilman Towner; Are we going to put it in and
collect from them later?
Mr. Aialssa,; No.
Motion by.Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Jett, and carried,
that we adopt the recommendation of the Fire Chief as to Plan B on
Fire Protection -Water Mains on Willow, Garvey, Merced, Van.Horn area.
DIRECTIONAL SIGN REQUEST
WEST COVINA CENTER
Mr. Aiassa; We have received a petition from
some of the merchants in the old
center. We have a recommendation
from the Traffic Committee which you all have received copies of, and
this latest one from the Planning Department re. this subject.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
DIRECTIONAL SIGN - Continued
Mr. Aiassa - Continued
Page Fifteen
• (Read Memos), The response from the Traffic Safety Committee was
negative, What the Council might be able to do is initiate a var-
iance if you see the need for the sign on private property. It
might be advisable that this be referred to the Chamber of Commerce
and have them meet with the merchants. We are setting a precedent
by even considering this.
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Councilman Towner: They do have a problem in there.
I think the whole area needs some
study of traffic circulation and
flow in order to make it more accessible. I think this would solve
their problem more than a sign.
Mayor Barnes: What is your recommendation on a
thing of this type? We have tried
to keep off public right of way
with signs. Do you have any recom-
mendations that you would suggest?
Mr. Aiassa: They might be able to find a piece
of private property and erect such
a sign.
Mayor Barnes: What action can we take here tonight?
Councilman Towner: I think we ought to confirm the
policy of the Traffic Safety Com-
mittee. It sounds to me like it
is a sound policy and if we change the policy for these particular
owners, we are going to be faced with continuing requests. I think
these people have a problem that needs some attention but I don't
think this is the answer.
Councilman Heath: I agree.
Councilman Snyder: I agree.
Councilman Jett:
Councilman Heath:
Councilman Snyder:
I wonder if this could be something
that could be referred to the Cham-
ber of Commerce. I think,there is
room for a lot of improvement back
in that area.
We have a City policy and I think
we ought to stick to it. I don't
think there is any sense in refer-
ring this to the Chamber of Commerce.
We ought to state that this is more
than just policy; the policy makes
good sense. The policy is not based
upon a whim, it makes good sense to
have a policy like this,
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried
that we confirm the stated policy of the Traffic Safety Committee as to
the signs in public right of way with respect to the request of the
West Covina Center and that the people who wrote the letter be advised
of our decision and the reasons therefor.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ATTENDANCE
COUNCIL MEETINGS
Mr. Aiassa: The Planning Commission wishes
to receive an indication from
the City Council as to the pos-
sibility of having a Commissioner attend each one of the meetings
and have the same position that the Councilman has at the Planning
Commission meetings.
Mayor Barnes: I would like to table this for
the present and talk to Mr. Renwick
myself, if possible.
Councilman Towner: They could send somebody anyway.
Councilman Heath: I would like to have someone state
to me the policy of a Councilman
in a Planning Commission meeting.
_ I have sat in on them and I have made a few comments and I have been
told that I am supposed to sit there and not supposed to say anything,
Mayor Barnes: I think that the Councilman is
there but he is to inform the rest
of the Council on zoning matters
and variances that come before the Planning Commission and he is sup-
posed to bring this back to the Council in case the Council has any
questions on it.
Councilman Heath: Is he supposed to do any talking
there or just listening?
_ Mayor Barnes: Unless he is asked, I think he
should just listen.
Councilman Towner: This is true of any of the other
appointive commissions; you have
the same situation where as a
single Councilman we have a difficult time trying to interpret over-
all Council policy and extract it from your own thoughts. For that
reason, I think it is better to sit there as an observer unless they
ask you a specific question and then make a statement on it. The
thought was, the Planning Commission felt, that the people of the
Council were not getting the full picture of what was going on down
.there. Part of the,reason for it was that Councilmen were not reading
,Planning Commission Minutes.
Councilman Heath: Can we go back on the original
Minutes and see what the original
intent was for a Councilman to sit
in on the Commission meetings?
Mayor Barnes: I would like permission to talk to
Mr. Renwick about this and hold
this off for a little bite
Councilman Snyder: Planning is not an exact science
and they need to know the Council°s
policy on this.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
Page Seventeen
PLANNING COMMISSION ATTENDANCE - Continued
Mr. Aiassa: I think if we had a few more
meetings with the Commission it
would clear this up,
Mr. Flotten: I am positive that originally it
came up as a matter of policy only
that if the Commission was interested
in the policy of the Council they would ask the Councilman who attended
the meeting.
Mayor Barnes:
Councilman Towner:
CHAMBER BUDGET MEETING WITH
COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVE
Mr. Aiassa:
Do I have permission from the
Council.to talk to Chairman
Renwick regarding this matter
to see what he had in mind?
That is fine with me. I see no
objection to any, Planning Com-
missioner coming here and sitting
in
I would like to have it on record
that the Chamber of Commerce did
send a letter on this.
Mayor Barnes: I think in the past we have always
had two representatives go over
the budget with the Chamber of
Commerce and I wonder if I could appoint two. Mr. Towner, would you
be willing to serve on this committee?
Councilman Towner:
Mayor Barnes:
OLD ANTIQUE FIRE ENGINE
Mr. Aiassa:
Yes.
I will also appoint Councilman
Heath.
About $300.00 would clean this
equipment up and make it usable
for exhibits. We couldn't get
anybody to raise enough money
to do this.
Councilman Heath: Where are you going to store this?
Mr, Aiassa: Mr. Dosh has assured Mr. Wetherbee
that we are going to provide a
place to store it. Mr. Warrell
gave us the right to do anything we want with it but I think his original
specific recommendation was that we keep it for City use.
Councilman Towner: He wants this approved as budget?
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
ANTIQUE -FIRE ENGINE - Continued
Mr. Aiassa: He wants the money. We might have
• to take it out of Advertising or
something. It is good publicity
for West Covina.
Councilman Heath: I think $300.00 is about right
except it is high.
Mr, Aiassa: I told him to put it high so I
won't have to come back for more
money. I think we can take this
from Advertising.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by.Councilman Heath, to authorize
the expenditure of up to $300.00 to restore the antique fire engine for
public relations use. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes: None
Absent: None
CROSSING GUARDS - GENERAL
Mr. Aiassa: This is a report on Valinda-Merced
Avenues. This is dated April 26.
This is coming up for State Legis-
lation consideration. I think it is high time that we bring some of
the expense back to the schools for.participationo
Mayor Barnes: Can't we study this and bring it
up at budget time?
Mr. Aiassa: All I want you.to know is that the
budget is pretty well expended,
We have ten possible sites that
don't have crossing guards,
Mayor Barnes: I think this would be a good item
to be studied at budget time if
you have no objections.
Mr. Aiassa: I might put the Police Department
on a follow-up study on this and
have it ready for the budget,
Mayor Barnes: That is a good idea.
WESTERN CITY AD
Mra.Aiassa: This is the professional magazine
that goes to five or seven"states.
This is the only magazine of its
nature. It is self-sustaining. In this letter from them of April 16
re advertising message in the September, 1962 copy, the page cost is
$385.00 and a half page cost is $240.00.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
WESTERN CITY AD - Continued
Mayor Barnes: I received this letter and referred
it to Mr. Aiassa and asked him to
look it over and see if he felt
that the City of West Covina would benefit from this and I think your
indication was that it would.
Mr. Aiassa: We have had several articles in this
magazine since I have been here; in
one of them they gave us a front
page and frankly, I would say we got more than our share of free publi-
city. I think this would be a small token and of course you would get
a full page and they will probably put an article along with it. This
would be the only issue that will come out of their 30th annual affair
and this would be only a special issue to commemorate their 30 years
of service. They want all the cities over 50,000 population to take
one page. This magazine goes to all the city officials in the 11
states.
Mayor Barnes: I was going to suggest this be
referred to the City Manager and
possibly the Chamber of Commerce
to see what could be put in if the Council desires to spend this
money to get good advertising for West Covina as well as. having some
of our projects in the magazine.
Councilman Heath:
I think we should take a half page,
• Mr. Aiassa: Why don't we submit this to the
Chamber of Commerce. Maybe they
would like to have the other half
page.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried, that the City Manager be authorized to talk with the Chamber
of Commerce concerning a full -page ad in the Western City magazine
for this one issue.
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INDEPENDENT.CITIES AGREEMENT ATTENDANCE
Mr. Aiassa:
Councilman Heath:
Mayor Barnes:
Councilman Heath:
This is coming up for our budget
and I just wanted to know how much
is going to be the cost for dues.
Mr. Heath, do you Yemember what we
put in to this?
Yes, it was less than a hundred
dollars.
Mr. Heath is the alternate on the
Mayor's meeting. I have a Mayor's
meeting on the 16th and I wonder
if Mr. Heath could possibly attend
thiiso
Yes.
Motion by.Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried, that ,the City Manager be authorized to include in the budget'
the annual fee for the Independent Cities of Los Angeles County.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROGRAM
REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL
Mr. Aiassa: The Council received a copy of
this on April 16, 1962, What
I would like to do is have the
Council review this and keep it on tap because we are going'to make
a field trip. Mr. Dosh is going to make a series of maps for this
field trip. I would like to tentatively review this and I want to
review this in the field. This will include all our public works
projects up to 1965 and what we would.like you to do now is set up
some Saturday and we will tour the entire City and do as much as we
can on the first Saturday. If we have to take more on the second
Saturday, we will do so. When the budget time comes, you people
will know what we are talking about. We thought we would have a
7:30 breakfast meeting and then tour the City. You will have a
written report with the maps and Mr. Dosh will be there to help in
the narration.
Mayor Barnes: I talked with Mr. Aiassa in re-
gards to this and we know that
we are going to be busy but the
nearest dates that we could figure were the 19th or the 26th of May.
Councilman Heath: I can't make either one of those
Saturdays; I will be out of towpo
Councilman Snyder:
Councilman Heath:
Mayor Barnes:
OPEN HOUSE - CITY HALL
The 26th is better for me.
Let me try to make the 26th.
Everybody is agreed on Saturday,
the 26th.
Mr. Aiassa: The staff is going to a lot of
effort to have a good open house,
We are going to try to start
during the dayl.ite hours so we can catch the children early and the
parents at night. This time we are going to keep it within the City
staff, We would like to have the Councilmen and their wives as the
greeting committee at the front door. This is the 17tho
Mayor Barnes:
Mr. Aiassa:
RESOLUTION NO. 2364
ADOPTED
Mayor Barnes:
Possibly Mr, Aiassa could set up
a schedule for the greeting com-
mittee to take shifts.
We will probably invite the Chamber
of Commerce to participate.
The City Manager presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA COM-
MENDING PAUL COWEN FOR HIS SER-
VICES TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA"
Hearing no objections, we will waive
further reading of the body of the
resolution.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
RESOLUTION NO; 2364 - Continued
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows -
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes- None
Absent- None
Said resolution was given No. 236*a
STANFORD WORK SHOP
Mr. Aiassa- I have been invited to attend the
Cubberley Conference- I received
a letter dated April 23, 1962
from Ho Thomas James, Associate Professor, Stanford University. I
would like this spread in ihe Minutes -
"Enclosed is a brochure announcing
the Cubberley Conference which is to be held on the campus,here at
Stanford University July 10, 11 and 12. A registration form is
attached.
"Inasmuch as the conference theme
deals with 'Excellence in Administration- The Dynamics of Leader-
ship', I wonder if you might not be interested in joining us for
this important undertaking.
"You will note that a number of
distinguished Americans will be making the general presentations.
We already have registered a number of city managers and other
city officials. If you need additonal registration forms, please
let us know,
Mr. Aiassa-
"We hope you can be with us."
I don't know whether I will be
able to go or not, but I would
like to have permission to goo
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and car-
ried, that the City Manager be authorized to go to the Standford
University Workshop. Motion passed on roll call as follows;
Ayes: Councilmen Jett, Towner, Heath, Snyder, Mayor Barnes
Noes- None
Absent- None
HALL OF RECORDS DEDICATION
May 18, 1962
Mr. Aiassa- Council representation would be
desirable.
Mayor Barnes- I intend to go,
Councilman Jett- I plan to go,
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Page Twenty -Two
HALL OF RECORDS DEDICATION - Continued
• Mr. Aiassao You might direct a letter to them
commending them on this new facility.
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried, that a letter be directed to Los Angeles commending them on
their new facility.
CORO FOUNDATION INTERNEE
Mr. Afassa: The Coro internee worked for the
City at no charge. He has prepared
a tabloid that I would like to sub-
mit to the Chamber of Commerce. This was to be done and I didn't have
the man power to put it together. We took advantage of this free time
from this Coro internee. It took him about four or five weeks with no
cost to the City except for gas mileage. I would like to have this
set up. We have $2,000.00 for publication of such a brochure and I
would like to have this put out in 1962. I thought it should be ap-
proved by the Chamber as well as the City Council so it will be a
joint venture. I would like to meet with the Chamber and see what
we come up with,
Motion by Councilman Heath, seconded by Councilman Towner, and car-
ried, that the City Manager be authorized to meet with the Chamber
of Commerce concerning this subject.
EMPLOYEES PERSONNEL MANUAL PROCEDURE
Mr. Aiassa: We are finally getting out the
Employees Personnel. Procedure
Manual, It is'going into.pub-
lication and this is a procedure book which gives all the instruc-
tions, actions, policies and letters outlining the administrative
rules and regulations for the staff.'
AMBULANCE SERVICE
Mrs. Van Dame: I wonder, since Mro Means does
not have an ambulance service
any more, if you have made ar-
rangements to have an ambulance service for West Covina, in other
words a stand=by ambulance for West Covina instead of relying on
Crippeno
Councilman Heath: When was this Means service
discontinued?
I* Mr, Aiassa:
Councilman Snyder:
Actually Means had a right to do
it any time because remember the
City Council dropped his contract
with the City.
I think we will be.real happy
with Mr. Crippen°s service.
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CITY MANAGER - Continued
AMBULANCE SERVICE - Continued
Mrs. Van Dame -
Councilman Snyderz
Councilman Towner:
Councilman Snyder.
LEAGUE MEETING VOTE
Page Twenty -Three
I think we should have service
in West Covina.
He is right up Citrus Avenue just
outside the City.
Do we have anyone else who could
be an alternate?
Crippen has an ambulance service
in Baldwin Park and one in Covina.
We are covered by both.
Councilman Snyder-. I went to the League meeting last
Thursday night and a matter came
up for vote and they called a roll
call vote city by City. This particular matter was a resolution re-
questing increase of the number of Supervisors from five to seven.
The problem is, now and then things come up like that at the League
meeting. I didn't know it was coming up but things come up on which
I am uninstructed. Do you want me to go ahead and vote or abstain
because I am uninstructed. In this case I voted "yes" which the
majority voted.
Mayor Barnes- I don't know how you could vote
otherwise if there is a roll call
of this type; I think you have to
use your own judgment.
Councilman Heath- Actually it doesn't commit the
Council,
Councilman Snyder- I went on record as the represen-
tative from the City of West Covina,
Councilman Heath: I always abstained.
Councilman Snyder: In some ways this delays the pro-
cedure in some ways if you have
to go back to the City for instruc-
tion.. If it is controversial he should abstain, but if things the
Council would go along with his opinion come up he should vote.
Councilman Heath-, I have always abstained on it be-
cause you go on record; this record
is for a purpose and if the record
is important enough to have that type of a vote, I should say on a roll
call vote you should hold off unless you had strict instructions.
Councilman Towner- I think it is kind of cumbersome
to come back evetytime.you want
to take an action. I agree with
the policy stated by Mr. Heath generally but I also feel that there
are occasions where you are pretty much required to exercise your
judgment and determine for,yourself whether you are overstepping the
bounds.
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LEAGUE MEETING VOTE - Continued
Councilman Heath.
Councilman Towner.
Councilman Jett.
HELIPORT
Page Twenty -Four
On roll call votes?
Maybe you are right on a roll call
vote.
I think you can use your own judg-
ment. If you think it is contro-
versial or that there might be an
objection, abstain,
Councilman Snyder. I had a meeting with the represen-
tatives from the two business cen-
ters about the heliport and these
representatives are not interested in the Heliport in Eastland or the
Plaza,
WATER DISTRICT
Mayor Barnes. Recently we have had some water
reports. Councilman Heath is
now our representative to the
water district. I feel it is necessary and I think perhaps that some
action be taken very soon or some indication on how the Council feels.
I think perhaps we could do this in a study session and Mr. Aiassa
could arrange to have Mr. Montgomery there to discuss this with use
He may have some other ideas but I do feel it is important that we
study this at this time after getting the report, the.Stetson report,
and also Mr. Hill's report from the other district.
Councilman Heath. Even before the report came out,
I was somewhat inclined to think
that we should join up with the
four cities, Before I make a firm recommendation, I would like to
finish reading the report and go over the rest of the information
that I have and bring back a firm recommendation to the Council.
Councilman Towner. Joining with these gives us the
opportunity to join with the
Upper San Gabriel Valley District
in going in to get our own joint water line.through to the Lancaster
outlet when it comes through there and being able to cut off MoWaDo,
is that it?
Mayor Barnes.
cause it is much more feasible if
Covina and bring the water in.
Both engineering companies recom-
mend that both districts go toge-
ther and bring this water in be -
the two were to join with West
Councilman Heath. By next year you have to make
your declaration on how much
water you are going to need, so
at that time you must'be in a district. If you go in this Upper San
Gabriel Valley, I am afraid it is nothing more that a railroad directly
into the Metropolitan Water. To get water you are going to have to
belong to a district and I would say that I would predict would be this,
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WATER DISTRICT - Continued
Councilman Heath - Continued
Page Twenty -Five
that eventually these two districts are going to go together and bring
• in water but I don't think that these four cities are going to go to-
gether if there is going to be Metropolitan Water. The only reason
they will go to it is to bring in Feather River Water. The only way
to make a declaration is to be in a district. The only way that this
valley can get supplemental water is if it is all one district. As
long as these four cities are not in favor of Metropolitan they wouldn't
go with the other association and form a district, They are going to
take Feather River. Our best bet is possibly to join up with the four
cities so as to be in a district so we can make our declaration of what
we need and when the time comes to bring in supplemental water have the
two associate water districts fight it out as to where they are going
to go
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Mayor Barnes. I think we should have a meeting
with Mr. Montgomery and get his
recommendations. I think we need
a session to discuss whether we do this now or the best time to do it.
I think Mr. Heath as a representative of the district should have time
to read the rest of this report before you would make any recommenda-
tions and possibly ask good questions of Mr. Montgomery when he comes
in. I was wondering if Mr. Aiassa could get Mr. Montgomery over some
evening so we could all sit down and talk with him and get his advice,
Mr. Aiassa.
ban Water rate increase and we
find out more and let Mr. Heath
APPOINTMENTS
Mayor Barnes.
Commissioner. We have one
Bartlett. I don't like to
last time. We have two in
two in the Personnel Board,
Mr. Aiassa-,
Mayor Barnes.
CONSUMERS COUNCIL
Mayor Barnes.
I talked with him on the phone
today. I am going to talk to
him on the report from the Subur-
will have a meeting tomorrow. I'll
know..
We should either confirm the
present Planning Commissioner
on review for another Planning
term being up on June 30, that of John
leave it.to the last minute like we did
the Parks and Recreation Committee and
on Friday, this week, at 7:30.
is presenting this. She is with
Brown's office. It is at one of
find out which school it is?
Mr. Aiassa.
I think the Mayor should be talking
to each one of these Chairmen to
see how they feel about these people.
Maybe we can set up a Personnel
session not too far away.
We had a call from a Mrs. Nelson
this evening and she invited the
City Council to attend a meeting
Another lady by the name of Mrs. Nelson
the Consumers Council from Governor
the.schoolso Mr. Aiassa, would you
Yes o
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Page Twenty -Six
Councilman Jett: We have this meeting set up to-
morrow with Mr, Aiassa, Neptune
and Thomas, and this is for the
purpose of informing them of some idea of what we have in mind with
reference to these ground rules. I specifically wanted to sit in on
that. I would like to have some indication from you gentlemen as to
what we are talking about in ground rules, we are thinking of set-
back, landscaping.
Councilman Snyder:
we could not limit them to height
Uniformity between buildings,
continuity, et cetera, The
City Attorney informed us that
other than our overall height.
Mr. Aiassa: This is where Mr. Williams brought
out some points with the Planning
Commission when we had that oral
discussion concerning Barker Brothers. He said that the City must re-
tain itself on the public right of way if we are going into a canope or
a facade that Mr. Bartlett suggested. I think also he stated that we
have to make any ruling to apply uniformly applicable to the full
length of the street, not just one particular parcel, one particular
property, or one particular buildings
Councilman Jett: He quoted from the code that you
could only deny this building if
it interferred with the orderly
development of the area. My opinion is that these ground rules should
• be written up plain enough that there would be no difficulty on the
part of the Planning Commission or the applicant that was their meaning
so that the architect could come in with something and could reasonably
expect approval of it without being held over for four or five or six
months.
Councilman Towner: I think one aspect of it that
ought to be clarified is what
kind of a showing do they have
to make, how many elevations, front, side, rear, do they have to'be
in color or are they just elevations, do they have to specify the
type of plant that goes in their landscaping, do they have. to say
how high the trees are when they put them in, do they have to come
in with sample materials oi can they just describe them. All of
these ground rules have to be written out and within the limitations
of the code section, Section 9106 of the Code.
Mr. Aiassa: We may come out with a rough out-
line and submit it to Mr. Williams
and let him go over it legally and
tell us.what is and what is not applicable. We had better make it
legal because if somebody takes us to court we had better be able to
stand on our own Ordinance, John Bartlett was recommended by the
Council to be at the meeting tomorrow night.
• There being no further business,,motion by,Councilman Heath, seconded
by Councilman Towner, and carried, that the meeting be adjourned at
12:10 a.m. APPROVED
ATTEST:
City Clerk
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