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10-19-1961 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA October 199 1961 The meeting was called to order by Mayor Heath at 7.55 P.M. in the • West Covina City Hall. The Pledge of .Allegiance was led by Council- man Snyder. ROT.T. rALT. Present: Mayor Heath, Councilmen Adams, Barnes, Snyder Others Present: Mr. George Aiassa, City,Manager Mr. Robert Flotten, City Clerk Mr, Harry Co Williams, City Attorney Mr. Thomas Dosh, Public Services Director Absent. Councilman Towner APPROVAL OF MINUTES September 27, 1961. - Approved as submitted,, Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried, that the Minutes of September 27, 1961 be approved as submitted, 0 CITY CLERK'S REPORTS PROJECT NO. C-155 LOCATION-. Northeast corner of Merced Plans and Specifications and Sunkist Avenues. APPROVED For street improvements (Cooperative project with Mr. Lester, Usher) De- partment of Public Works Report sub- mitted, Motion by Councilman * Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and car- ried, that the plans and specifications for street improvements in Project No. C-155 be approved. LOS ANGELES COUNTY FLOOD LOCATION. Walnut, Creek Wash and Holt CONTROL DISTRICT RIGHT OF Avenue. WAY MAP NO, 20 ML-28 APPROVED Motion by Councilman Adams, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that the map of the Walnut Creek Wash from San Bernardino Freeway to 700-feet easterly of Barranca Street be approved in accordance with the Planning Act. I • PROJECT C-101 LOCATION- City Hall, 1444 W. Garvey Heating Improvements Avenue. (Geo. Waale Constr. Co.) APPROVED To accept heating improvements and authorize release of Travelers In- demnity Co. "Bond to Release Money Withheld on Claims in the amount of $476.25. Inspection clearance received from Southern Counties Gas Co., City Building Department and release of Claim from Lee Haight Heating Co. Adi, C� Co 10-19-61 PROJECT C-101 - Continued Page Two Motion by Councilman Barnes, Seconded by Councilman Adams, and car- ried, that heating improvements in Project C-101. be approved and • authorization given for the release of Travelers Indemnity Co. bond as noted in the amount of $476.25. PLANNING COMMISSION TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT No. 26890 W. E. Hardy Deleted from Agenda to Meeting of October 30 LOCATION: South of Hollencrest Drive and Hidden Valley Drive 22 Acres - 36 Lots - Area District IV Approval recommended by the Planning Commission on October 18, 1961_ TENTATIVE MAP OF TRACT LOCATION. Northeast corner of Azusa No. 26966 and Cameron Avenues. Joyce Aldehl and John F. Richards 8.88 Acres - 30 Lots - Area District Deleted from Agenda 11-A Approval recommended by the Planning Commission on October 18, 1961. The City Clerk requested the items of the tentative maps be deleted as recommendations are unavail,able,at this time. Council agreed these items be deleted. REVIEW OF PLANNING October 18, 1961 meeting. COMMISSION ACTION Variance No. 363 Councilman Snyder indicated that Barker Bros., Inc. he understood the Commission was ready to approve this variance but they desired to add the stipulation that this would hold only so long as it remained a furniture store use and Barker did not desire to accept this. Mr. Williams indicated that it was suggested how to grant the var- iance since it was reducing the required number of parking spaces from that which was required by code, to 94 spaces so long as the premises are used only for a furniture store. They objected to the conditions, but inasmuch as the entire arguments justifying the variance, and the entire grounds for a variance, was the conten- tion that a furniture store does not require as many parking spaces for customers as an ordinary department store use would, it would be ridiculous to have a variance exist when there would be, say a ten -cent store, go in there in the future and then the reasons for the request for this variance would no longer exist. They stated they were unable to obtain financing under these terms. Councilman Snyder stated that if the Commission was willing to go along with this stipulation and it was the only thing that kept them from'granting this, possibly it might be a mistake to let this matter die without trying to obtain some sort of a compromise here. Councilman Barnes indicated he thought there might be other land available if they desire additional ground in that area. However, it would be very foolish, he thought, to grant this with only 94 parking stalls without adaing this condition of stipulated use in that if another type of store would come in here that would need more parking stalls than this use would require, they would be par- Page Three Adj. Co Co 10-19-61 VARIANCE NO. 363 - Continued Mr, Williams - Continued • king on someone elses property if they could move right in without there being some way of restudying this matter. Councilman Snyder stated he could understand this but that perhaps our parking ordinance is a little too inflexible or too severe be- cause I do not think any of us are going to argue that we have too much parking say in the Plaza. The point is, Councilman Snyder went on, is that if this were really.the only point of contention on this case maybe the parking ordinance is too inflexible and this might be held over in some way to explore the matter further. Mayor Heath stated that perhaps we should have some flexibility in our parking requirements but if we grant this variance with the stipulation indicated and Barker moves out say in five years, then. the variance automatically'stops and it makes it easier for possibly a heavier parking use stord;:to go in with an opportunity to review the matter, otherwise it might put us in the spot of the owner claiming hardship in that he cannot use the property. Mr. Williams stated that wouldn't be exactly so, that he couldn't use his property. Councilman Snyder indicaited, that to allow furniture stores to have less parking makes sense. If you change the ordinance the only +.ping that could go in would be a furniture store or something similar re- quiring less parking. Mr. Williams reiterated that other uses that do not require as much parking as retail stores could be used, such as banks, loan insti- tutions, etc., but with this parking it could not be used for a ten - cent store unless they showed they had enough parking for such a use. They would have to get a variance and a permit which it seems logical you would want them to do with such a change of possible use insteasd of just automatically have the variance continue and another use go in there without enough parking and they would park all over the area. Mayor Heath asked where would the Council stand if the owner could not rent the empty store except to these few listed uses requiring less parking? Could he through litigation force us to give him something besides these uses with less parking? Mr. Williams indicated that he would doubt it since a variance re- quirement is a .request for relief from requirements. This variance would be no different in substance than the law a year ago before you amended it to put all retailers in the same catagoryo Before that was done, you listed the use and so many stalls for furniture stores, drug stores, before you .lumped it all into retail. However, even then this furniture store use would have required instead of the general 400 stalls, 200 stalls under that old ordinance so you would have had exactly the same problem arising under that ordinance with this use. If.the store ever moved out, without the condition so imposed as suggested, it would still be insufficient parking for a heavier parking use store. This condition would not permit this to go to a ten -cent store without getting a variance and meeting requirements for such a use. (There were no special items called before the Council.) a Adj.-C. Co 10-19-61 SCHEDULED MATTERS BIDS • PROJECT NO. C-1457-1 Cameron Avenue Street Improvements October 19, 1961 in the office Publication has been received tober 5 and 12, 1961, and as a tober 4, 1961. Page Four LOCATION. Cameron Avenue from Orange to Richland Avenue. Bids were received at 10-00 A.M. of the City Clerk, Notice of from the West Covina Tribune on Oc- news item in the Green Sheet on Oc- The bids received are as follows-, D & W PAVING CONTRACTOR $11,570.70 WARREN SOUTHWEST, INC. 11,765.26 AMAN'BROS. 11,931050 BODDUM CONSTRUCTION CO., 12.9003.00 COX BROS, CONSTR. COo 12,073.70 AGGREGATE CONSTRUCTION $1,,'500.00 Bid Bond 12,225.60 A. J,.BEINSCHROTH 13,238.00 All contained 10% bid bonds except as noted above. Mr. Aiassa stated that before going into this matter there is in- formation of which the Council should be aware. La Puente Cooper- ative Water Company has an old irrigation water line that runs through this area, and the moment we acquire this property as street R/W this would move the water line protection to the City. Insofar as the water line, this portion of the bid, SCOA took care of, which, ran,into a cost of approximately $30,000. There is a serious improvement problem from Orange Avenue south to Cameron Bridge then onto Sunset. You have the same situation as SCOA Corporation had to correct. Engineering staff has reviewed this, and favors going ahead and putting this improvement in and taking the -risk in the process of construction or use of highway to cause damages, If there is any damage to this water line and the water ceases to flow beyond this point the City would be legally responsi.b.l,e, Mayor Heath asked that if SCOA paid for replacement at this point why can't we have other property owners do it also? Mr. Ai.assa indicated that other property owners have not come in for a precise plan, Sugar and Kaplan properties are not filed as such. If you finish this street and complete the program, you want to do it with County aid, and SCOA desires to take advantage of our over all. bid, but we do not want to assume the responsibility of this water line. Mayor Heath asked of a possibility these street improvements could be put in at this time, and at the time the property developed, disconnect this line and install a new line, Mr. Aiassa stated what they normally do would be to dig up the pavement, discontinue the old line and.put in a new line. Mayor Heath stated that at the time of approval of the precise plan • perhaps it could be stipulated that this street not be torn up, the present pipe remain and new pipe be placed on the property and ease- ment given to the property at that time. Councilman Barnes stated, abandon the line in the street with a bypass pipeline over the property when they develop, Mr. Dosh indicated this is an irrigation transmittal line and has nothing to do with the property, it goes somewhere else and they will have to bring in their own lines. Adj. Co C. 10-1.0-61 Page Five BIDS PROJECT NO. C-14:�-1 - Continued Council Barnes stated the center 48-foot street wouldn't interfere except the line would cross in one spot and Mr. Aiassa indicated yes, because it wavers, Mayor Heath stated that the property owners will have to put that line in sometime and why not now. But Mr. Dosh indicated that is true but if they aren't going to develop their property, if it sits for two or three years nothing will be done but if it is the desire to complete the street we will have to accept their deed. Mr. Dos,h went on to say that it is the desire of the City Attorney to review the court case, which is many years old, and the title company is making its third investigation on it, now. Mayor Heath indicated to put the 48-foot strap in and wait the: people out and Mr. Aiassa said yes, this was the original proposal, but the Engineering Department feels there is a, drainage problem here also and they would like to see the whole street improved. However, if any damage, you would be rebuilding the water line at the expense of the Cityo Mr. Williams asked if this was for irrigation only or, domestic use also and Mr. Aiassa stated it was for some domestic use, too. Mr. Dosh went. on to indicate the title report; reads irrigation line specifically but the court case ruled on the use of this line end. City has not; been able to get its Mr. Aiassa staged that there is about one chance in a thousand this • would collapse but SCOA was advised by its legal counsel not to take the chance. Mr. Williams stated if they could prove or even lead the courts to believe that construction of the street or use of'the street; caused to break we would be responsible for the damage. If we move in, treat it as reverse condemnatien that we have taken it and must pay reasonable value, Our contention is, and we are not absolutely sure, that we would not have to pay as much if we went .in before- hand and condemned the water line because we would only have to pay its present cost,, but Jl.n, addition to concrete pipe we may be charged with taking an easement. Possibly offset this by placing the ease- ment in the parking strip instead of the center of the street so I thank we would not be stuck wAth the easement but the value of the line and even if we take the 7l.inea if a new line costs $20,000000, a 50 year old one is certainly going to be worth less so what if we do take it. What might be of value is the easement as distinct from the pipe in the easement which we might be held for taking if we shut the water off by causing it to break and there is the loss of the citrus grove because of that and we might be sued for its Mayor Heath asked if the water company could install this and hold it against the property but the City Attorney indicated it would be difficult to hold a bill against something that isn't served and have the precise plan to indicate something they get no service from, • If there is an engineering probability that we won't hurt the thing I consider that it isn't a great risks it won't cost us more if we do hurt it, then if we condemn it in the first place. The safe course, if there is any engineering probability that we would damage the line, would be. to file suit to comdemn the easement and of they see all we can get is present day value of the thing I think we would eventually, after filing suit, be able to settle with them for sub- stantially less than SCOA did which replaced the old line with a new line. In this case the water company came better off, all we have to do is come as well off, • Adj. Co Co 10-19-61. BIDS PROJECT NO. C-IQ6-1 - Continued Page Six, Mayor Heath indicated that he thought the suggestion to condemn was best. Mr. Williams stated another way is whether we go in and put some reinforcement over this line, The only detriment possible to suf- fer in doing this is that; .i.f we have to go into the line for re- pairs, there may be t1e, difference of going through dirt and going through a street. with reinforcement but it may turn out to be quicker and cheaper in the long run., Mr. Aiassa stated, that .he fel: t 'that Council. should start to give some thought and consideration to &emand new standards for utility exca- vations and possibly a new ordinance to.require specific controls of every typed Mayor Heath and Councilman Barnes indicated favoring the suggestion of condemning of easements, There was some discussion of damage and repairing in small amounts and the City Manager ag.'reed, small, repairscould be made but there is st` 11. the possibility of water being shut, off for any length of ti:aie dol,n.g damage to citrus -groves th:i,s fl.i,ne migh).t; be feeding and processing such, a claim to the City and to the Water Company which would be passed on to use It was agreed, at; the suggestic,,)n of the City Manage:r, that the Council can safely proceed on the aarea cf their bid and that 'this other matter be . referred to him and the City Attorney in relation to fu;rthe.r° investi- gation from Richl and t,c Sr�nse *, Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Barnes, that t°he bid on Project C-15-1 be awarded to D & W Pav:i.,ng Cc:ntractor° in the amount of $11, 5tG. 70, as the .Lowest, responsib;fl,e bidder, and that. all other bid bonds be returned to tk,, utisuc,c�,essfult bidders. Motion passed on roll, call, as, foil,c-ws'. Ayes. Councilmen. Adams, Ba-rnes., Snyde��, Mayon Heath Noes.' None Absent. Councilman Towner RECREATION AND PARKS WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS Letter from Frank Go Bonelli, County. Board of Supervisors Letter from Milton Breivogel, Regional Planning Commission Letter from Mr. & Mrs. Gosnell Morris Field Trip November 4th with the Park and Recreation Commissioner at 9;,,30 City Hallo Res Extension of Azusa Avenue from the Sari. Bernardino Freeway southerly to Whittier 'Boulevard - Resolution No. 21,78 reference. Res Extension, of Azusa Avenue from the San Bernardino Freeway, southerly to Whittier Boulevard. Re;,, Zoning of area known as "The Island" Between Holt and Garvey at east end of the City. 0 Adj. C. Co 10-19-61 LETTER FROM MR. & MRS. GOSNELL MORRIS - Continued Page Seven Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams and car- ried that this matter be referred to the Planning Department and Planning Commission for review, WEST COVINA BEAUTIFUL BIRTHDAY DANCE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE Joint Meeting CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS West Covina Beautiful letter re- garding birthday dance to be held at South Hills Country Club February 3, 1,961. Covina, La Puente and West Covina Chambers of Commerce on October 26, 1961 at Dinnerhorn Restaurant. DEPOSIT COST FOR FIRE Motion by Councilman Snyder,, ssconde-d HYDRANTS by Councilman Barnes, aad c-alrlr,.ed, that authorization be given fox� the establishment of depos��',t fire, hydrants in the amount of $40.50 for 21.111 x 411 hydrants, effe�:ctive 2 November 19 1961. SIGNING OF CONTRACT WITH MeatioD by Councilman Snyder seconded NEPTUNE AND THOMAS by Councilman Adams and carried that the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to sign th6, contract with Neptune and Thomas, as revised, for the C-P'_v:X Center under HHFA federal funds, REQUEST FROM C.A.0. October 26, 1-961, 10�30 A..Ma For Meeting Relative To Superior Court Site Also desire architect -to attend available. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and car- rief-1, that Mayor Heath and Councilman Towner be designated as the official representatives in this matter of the Super,oxl Court, with Councilman Snyder as alternate representative if either the Mayor or Councilman Towner are unable to be there. MEETING WITH SCHOOLS it was indicated by Council that 'the on 80 Foot strip of Park report should be made to them, and then Council can refer it to the Recreation and Parks Commission. TRANSFER OF MONIES Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded from Recreation Salaries by Councilman Barnes, and carried, that the amount of $11,000.00 be transferred from the Recreation Sal- aries to Park Capital Outlay be approved as recommended by the Rec- creation and Parks Commission, Adj. C. Co 10-19-61 Page Eight TRIPLE COMBINATION HEAVY Motion by Councilman Snyder, secon- DUTY PUMPER FIRE TRUCK ded by Councilman Adams, and car- ried, that the specifications for a 1250 gallon triple combination • heavy duty pumper be approved and the City Manager be authorized to call for formal bids. Amount budgeted. CHURCH DIRECTIONAL SIGNS The report received from the Traffic Engineer, Councilman Barnes indicated, might have a great deal to do with such future requests and I believe it was approved. Councilman Adams stated that he believed it was granted on the basis they were existing elsewhere in the City. Mr. Dosh stated Council granted this but left all the details up to the staff. Mr. Aiassa stated that perhaps Council, should indicate that the Engineering Staff and Planning Staff be directed to make a survey, with photographs, of the types of signs we have right now, Councilman Barnes indicated that he thought that in the future we should refer this type of thing to the traffic committee, and Mr. Aiassa stated that possibly they should follow the requirement of any standard sign relative to ordinance in the City. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and car- ried, that any directional signs requested to be put in parkway or, public right of way of the City be referred to the Planning Director and the Traffic Committee for their study and report. POST OFFICE Motion by Councilman Barnes, secon- ded by Councilman Snyder, and car- ried that the Mayor and City Man- ager be instructed to write strong letters and adopt a resolution to bring to the attention of the proper parties in the area t1he City's dire need for a new post office and/or more parking than we now have at our present site. IRWINDALE TO REMAIN ON FREEWAY SIGN INTERCHANGE AT VINCENT AVENUE CITY ATTORNEY RESOLUTION N0 _ 2219 ® ADOPTED Mayor Heath; The name of Irwindale will appear, but will be corrected by an added plate over it. Letter from State Division of High- ways. General and informational data ordered and placed on file. The City Attorney presented- "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA COMMEN- DING CHARLES WILLIAM GUERIN FOR HIS SERVICES TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA" Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution. • CJ Adj. C. Co 10-19-61 Page Nine RESOLUTION NO. 2219 - Continued Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Adams, that said resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll, call as follows. - Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath Noes: None Absent: Councilman Towner Said resolution was given No. 2219. RESOLUTION NO. 2221 ADOPTED Mayor Heath: The City Attorney presented: "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA, JOINTLY WITH THE RECREATION AND PARKS COM- MISSION, SUPPORTING THE TEEN-KAN- . TEEN FOUNDATION IN ITS EFFORTS TO COMPLETE THE COMMUNITY YOUTH CENTER IN CAMERON PARK AND URGING ALL CIT- IZENS TO GIVE THEIR SUPPORT TO THE SUCCESSFUL CONCLUSION OF THE PROJECT" Hearing no objections, we will waive further reading of the body of the resolution. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, that said resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows. - Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath Noes: None Absent: Councilman Towner Said Resolution was given No. 222.1. ORDINANCE NO. 723 The Clay Attorney presented: ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPROVING THE ANNEXATION TO THE CITY OF WEST COVINA OF CERTAIN INHABITED TERRITORY DESIGNATED AS WEST COVINA SOUTHWESTERLY ANNEXATION NOa.168 PURSUANT TO A SPE- CIAL ELECTION HELD ON THE 26TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 1961" Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, that futher reading of the body of the ordinance be waived. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by.Councilman Adams that the ordinance be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath Noes: None Absent: Councilman Towner Said ordinance was given No. 723. ORDINANCE NO. 724 ADOPTED The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (Zone Change No. 196-Bandy) C� Adj. C. Co 10-19-61 Page Ten ORDINANCE NO. 724 - Continued Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried that further reading of the body of the ordinance be waived. Motion by Councilman Adams, seconded by Councilman Barnes that said ordinance be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath Noes: None Absent: Councilman Towner ,Said Ordinance was given No. 724. INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE The City Attorney presented: "AN ORDINANCE OF -,THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES" (Zone Change No. 191-Lovett) Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried, that further reading of the body of the ordinance be waived. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried that the ordinance be introduced and given its first reading. CLAIM FOR DAMAGES By Emery A. Tuttle, father of REJECTED Carolyn L. Tuttle, a minor, due to alleged accident on September 27, 1961 at 330 North Sunset Avenue. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried, that the claim be rejected and referred to the insurance carrier, CITY CLERK Bo P. 0. E. ELKS #1996 Temporary Use Permit to conduct APPROVED 3rd Annual Christmas Charity Ball on December 9, 1961. Fireproof tent to take care of overflow crowd. Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman. Barnes, and carried that the request be approved subject to City Safety Committee. REQUEST FOR TEMPORARY USE PERMIT APPROVED Rowland Avenue School P.T.A. to conduct Carnival on October 28, 1961 from 11 A.M. to 4 P.M. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried that the request of the Po-T.A. be approved, subjected to City Safety Committee report. • LJ Adj. Co Co 10-19-61 SCOA, INC. APPROVED Page Eleven Temporary Use Permit to conduct Western Barbecue Halloween Party October 28, 1.961. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried, that the request be granted subject to City Safety Committee Report. It was indicated by Council that means should be set up to prevent anyone going into the buildings. COVINA-WEST COVINA Temporary Use Permit to conduct EXCHANGE CLUB Circus November 25, 1961. APPROVED Motion by Councilman Adams, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried, that the request be approved subject to City License and City Safe- ty Committee Report. GIRL SCOUT COUNCIL Request to conduct annual sale of APPROVED cookies from February 9 through 28, 1,962. Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and carried that the request of the Girl Scout Council be approved, PROPOSED'ANNEXATION NO. 16 TO THE CITY OF GLENDORA PROPOSED ANNEXATION NO. 36 TO THE CITY OF COVINA RESOLUTION NO. 61-150 of CITY OF LA MIRADA No protest, No protest. Urging relief as to Fall -Out Shelters. Mayor Heath indicated he expected an answer very shortly from the school system relative to fall -out shelter installations on their property. This was asking information of schools as to the number of students they have and I want to make up a report for newspapers and for our information as to what they are talking about statis- tically as to area cost, location, etc., if we went into a program of putting these on .school property. NOTICE OF MEETING OF LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES November 16, 1961 at Miramar Hotel in Santa Monica. LETTER DIRECTED TO THE Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded COUNCIL FROM by Councilman Adams and carried that E. Be Snoddy this be referred to the City Manager to be acknowledged. Councilmen Adams and Snyder volunteered to handle this per request of Mr, Aiassao • Adj. Ca C. 10-19-61 Page Twelve UPPER SAN GABRIEL VALLEY November 8, 1961. WATER ASSOCIATION MEETING Councilman Barnes, and Mayor Heath are going to attend. Mayor Heath stated that soon this City is going to have to face up to this water problem and take a stand one way or the other, "I am still in fear of the City being hit with a 40 cent assessed evalua- tion tax increase and I think we should fight this every way we can until the time that it is felt it is needed. Between Councilman Barnes and myself we should get a report to you after this meeting with recommendation on which way it is considered we should go on this water association. Councilman Barnes stated that he felt this was real important and there would probably be more of an answer given after this meeting takes place. Mr. Williams stated he had received reports which will probably be of some surprise, that contrary to all scare reports published by the Upper San Gabriel Valley district for everyone to get into the metropolitan district, the report shows that this basin :is not over- drawn. The Long Beach people have backed off in their demands now and just want a guarantee of certain amount of water.fl.owing across the Whittier Narrows. Councilman Barnes- If the two water districts plus West Covina form one Large district or •join together, we could buy water from the Feather River and lease a portion of the water lines where - ever it came from and they would be asked through the State Public Utility.Commission to let us have water. CIVIC SERVANT DAY PROCLAMATION ANNEXATION REQUEST FROM Frank Lyons REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION Held for study session, South of golf course, connected with 20-foot easement 200-feet long. West side of Irwindale beginning with. North City Limits. Mayor Heath asked for sketch map of the Lyons property and it was in- dicated the Irwindale matter was being referred to Annexation Commit- tee also. CITY TREASURER'S REPORTS August, 1961 ACCEPTED September, 1961 Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Barnes; and carried that the City Treasurer's reports for August and September, 1961 be accepted and filed for the record. AREA DISTRICT V Hearing already held and closed and Council to review it at their meeting of October 30, 1961 on this matter, In a short discussion of this matter the City Attorney indicated that insofar as a sliding scale is concerned, that is a separate matter from the study and matter of an Area District V and that this sliding scale, in the form of flexible hillside item, has been or is now being considered in the Planning Commission. Adj. Co CD 10-19-61 Page Thirteen COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS RALPHS GROCERY CO. Mayor Heath stated this petition • REFERENDUM has been filed but if there were some kind of compromise arrived at satisfactory to the orginators of this petition it could be with- dtaWrio•: Mr. Williams stated no, the petition could not be withdrawn. How- ever, he thought that perhaps the same thing could be accomplished as withdrawing but in a different way. Let us assume that a sat- isfactory plan were arrived at agreeable both to Ralphs, property owners and adjacent property owners, In view of the referendum, you could not proceed.with the granting of a zoning for this use accompanied by a precise plan but instead of a zone change you could use a variance. You would repeal the ordinance in that case, avoid the election and remain R-A by granting a variance. I think that there is a fair possibility of showing as good a ground here for a variance as many others that Council has done. Mayor Heath asked that if conditions changed satisfactory to Ralphs and the people surrounding, plus others, who had signed the petition was there any percentage of people on the petition who would have to be in agreement. Mr. Williams indicated there is no requirement to deal with the people who signed this petition. The practical answer, if this is going to • be successful, you are going to have to deal with those people who have been representing those closely affected by the enterprise. What you would need is absence of opponents to the variance, not any affirm- ative withdrawal of the petition. MEDICAL INSURANCE Councilman Barnes: I attended the Personnel Board meeting the other night and it was suggested that a consultant be brought in on their medical plan. This has nothing to do with Mr. Lederman, how- ever. There was indicated the possibility of the employees being willing to pay on a 50-50 basis. At that, I made a suggestion that they contact you and get your O.K. but without recommendation I of- fered the services of a Mr. Worthington of my Company to talk to representatives, Paul Cowen, Jerry Klein and Mr, Walters. I called Mr. Worthington and understood that Jerry Klein was going to call him back regarding a firm date and possibly they could find out through him, without going through a consultant, the answer to their questions. Mr. Aiassa indicated that he had advised all parties concerned to ob- tain all the necessary research possible on the matter and submit it to his office before considering any cost or hiring a consultant. Councilman Barnes stated that some of this research may come out of talking to Mr. Worthington and possibly other men handling insurance for large companies could help them in their. thinking. Councilman Snyder stated this would be the only type of consultant who wouldn't represent an insurance company ADJ. C. C. 1.0-19-61 SALARY SURVEY Page Fourteen Councilman Barnes stated a question had been asked in regard to the salary survey which is to be completed the first of the year, Paul. • Cowen's statement was that througn this joint venture, Mr. Aiassa, plus Mr. Lederman will make a report but from there, it is on the Council's shoulders. This is what Mayor Heath and I objected to because we wanted an outside firm. Mr. Aiassa stated that perhaps the story was not completed in that the only thing to be on Council's shoulders would be the three levels and what choice is to be made. • Mayor Heath: I understood that when this salary survey plan was considered that an expert should be used to make this study and the responsibility of the study would rest on his shoulders and that neither the City Manager nor his assistant nor Council would be the person or persons to'carry the burden of proof and carry the responsibility. Councilman Snyder stated that the consultant makes the final recom- mendations and we accept it. Mr. Aiassa stated that the only thing Council would be involved with is what bracket are,the employees of this City going to be in, in the over all area salary level; lowest, middle or highest. Councilman Barnes: That is recommendation from the con- sultant, not us. Councilman Snyder: But the consultant doesn't know how much money we have. Mr, Aiassa: You went through other survies rela- tive to highest, medium and lowest. You may find you want the highest catagory because you do not want personnel turnover and this is not stopping just at city catagories but going to private industry and the San Gabriel Valley area and the important thing is, I would point out, that we wont be going through the merry-go-round where we took a percentage increase, we shifted percentage wise, because two government agencies were the determining for the whole salary level of this area. Councilman Barnes: Are you using Los Angeles as determing point? Mr. Aiassa: No, but you won't know and we won't know until you determine the amount of money involved with each bracket level. You might find the highest bracket is more economical and would make it more attractive for anybody to work for us without playing musical chairs with Los Angeles County and Los Angeles City. The minutes of the Joint Meeting with the City Council and Personnel Board should be reviewed by the City Council, Adj. Co Co 10-19-61 Page Fifteen Councilman Adams stated that the Planning Commission would like to review with the Council this realignment of Valinda and also there was discussion, which showed some confusion, in regard to civic center area lighting requirement. Mr. Joseph also requested the possibility of obtaining adequate to- pography maps in regard to hillside properties and their layout for staff to -work with; City Manager advised City Council that there was a regular procedure for this type ofdata° DEMANDS APPROVED Motion by Mayor Heath, seconded by Councilman Snyder that Demands in the amount of $90,704.14, as shown on Demand Sheets C7288 C-289 and B-87 be approved. This to include fund transfers in the amount of $56",949054 and bank transfers in the amount of $851.33, Motion passed on roll call as follows: Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor heath Noes: None Absent: Councilman Towner • MRS. VAN DAME: The other evening you were talking on the Proclamation of U.N. Day on October 24 and I think you did very well even though you were heckled so much, I think that it'is terrible that people are so small as to heckle. I have been coming to these meetings for years and have seen a lot of it and I think you all did very well to keep your equilibrium as well as you did. There being no further business, motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried that the meeting be adjourned at 10:30 P.M. ATTEST: • City Cler APPROVED ayor