08-14-1961 - Regular Meeting - MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA.
AUGUST 14, 1961
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Heath at 7:40 P.M. in the
• West Covina City Hallo The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Council-
man Barnes with the invocation given by The Rev. Thomas L,.Thomasma
of the West Covina Reformed Church.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Heath, Councilmen Towner, Barnes, Adams
Others Present: Mr. George Aiassa, City Manager
Mr, Robert Flotten, City Clerk
Mr. Harry Cm Williams, City Attorney
Mr. Thomas Dosh, Public Services Director
Mr. Harold Joseph, Planning Director
Absent: Councilman Snyder (to 7:48 P.M.)
OATH OF OFFICE AS The City Clerk administered the
MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL oath of office to Mr, John Q,
TAKEN BY MR, JOHN Q. ADAMS Adams as a member of the City
Council of the City of West Covina.
Council welcomed Mr. Adams. Mayor
Heath stated that it was felt that
• Council and the City was quite for-
tunate in having a man like Mr. Adams with us, that many candidates
had been interviewed and that it was thought that Mr. Adams' back-
ground, thoughts and reasoning will make him a very valuable asset
to the Council.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
July 24, 1961 - Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman
Barnes, and carried, that the Minutes of July 24, 1961
be approved as submitted.
CITY CLERK'S REPORTS
METES AND BOUNDS SUB,
NOo 135-166
ACCEPT STREET IMPROVEMENTS
AND RELEASE BOND
(Ben So Bingham)
APPROVED
LOCATION: Southeast corner of
California and Service Avenues.
The Employers' Fire Insurance Co,
Bond No. SY 7438 in the amount of
$3,500.00.
Inspector's final report on file -
staff recommends acceptance and re-
lease of bond.
• Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Barnes, and
carried, that street improvements in Metes and Bounds Sub. No. 135-
166 be accepted and authorization given for the release of The Em-
ployers' Fire Insurance Co. Bond No. SY 7438 in the amount of $3,500.00.
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TRACT NO. 20551
ACCEPT STREET AND ALLEY
IMPROVEMENTS AND RELEASE
BOND
(Sidney Jo Gittler)
APPROVED
LOCATION-. North side of -Garvey
Avenue, between Vincent and Lark
Ellen Avenues.
Great American Inidemnity Co. Bend
No. 662787 in the amount of
$129500.00.
inspector's final report on file
staff recommends acceptance and
release of bond.
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Towner, and carried,
that street and alley improvements in Tract No. 20551 be accepted and
authorization given for the release of Great Ami-rican Indemnity Co.
Bond No. 662787 in the amount of $12,500.00
PROJECT No. C-126 LOCATION-. Badillo Street, west of
ACCEPT STREET IMPROVEMENTS Orange Avenue.
AND RELEASE BOND
(Aman Bros., Contractor) Travelers Indemnity Co. Performance
APPROVED Bond No. 951746 in the amount of
$49981.310
Inspector's final report on file - Notice of Completion signed m staff
recommends acceptance and bond release.
Motion by Councilman Adamsp seconded by Councilman Barnes, and carried,
that street improvements in Project No. C-126 be accepted and authori-
zation given for the release of Travelers Indemnity Co. Performance Bond
No. 951746 in the amount of $4,981.31 subject to Notice of Completion
procedure.
PROJECT NO. C-314`7 LOCATION: Vine and Glendora Avenues
ACCEPT TRAFFIC SIGNAL Argonaut Insurance Co. Performance
IMPROVEMENTS AND RELEASE Bond No. 13293 in the amount of
BOND $32224.00.
(William R. Hahn, Contractor)
APPROVED
Inspector's final report on file - Notice of Completion signed - staff
recommends acceptance.
Motion 'by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried,
that traffic signal improvements in Project No. C-147 be accepted and
authorization given for the release of Argonaut Insurance Co. Per-
formance Bond No. 13293 in the amount of $3,224.00 subject to Notice
of Completion procedure.
RESOLUTION NO. 2162 The City Clerk presented:
APPROVING FINAL MAP "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
TRACT N0, 24002 OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA APPROV-
ADOPTED ING A FINAL SUBDIVISION MAP OF
• TRACT NO. 24002; ACCEPTING DEDI-
CATION THEREIN OFFERED* ACCEPTING
AGREEMENT BY THE SUBDIVIDER AND A
SURETY BOND TO SECURE SAMEO:"
LOCATION: Southeast corner of Cameron and Valinda Avenues.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2162 APPROVING FINAL MAP TRACT NO, 24002 Continued
Approves final map of Tract No, 24002 and accepts The Ohio Casualty
and Insurance Co, Bond No. 997784 in the amount of $23,400.00 for
street and sanitary sewer improvements. Tentative map approved
• June, 1960 ® time extension granted to file final map ® staff
recommends approval.
Mayor Heath: Hearing no objections, we will
waive f�Urther reading of the
body of the resolution.
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Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Towner that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Mayor Heath
Noeso, None
Absent: Councilman Snyder
Councilman Snyder took his seat in the Council Chambers at 7:48 P.M.
RESOLUTION NO. 2163
ADOPTED
The City Clerk presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA FINDING
THAT PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIRES THAT
NO DRIVEWAY OR CURB CUT PERMITS
SHALL BE ISSUED ON THE NORTHERLY
SIDE OF CAMERON AVENUE BETWEEN
SUNSET AND EVANWOOD AVENUES."
Mr, ;bosh went into the various ramifications of this particular
matter and the City Manager indicated that the point to be remember-
ed is that the original R®1 subdivision was designed and developed
without access to Cameron and in this way the subdivider did not
participate with any R/W on street improvement on Cameron Avenue.
Mayor Heath -
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Adams that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes- None
Absents None
Said resolution was given No, 2163.
RESOLUTION NO. 2164 The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ORDER-
ING AND DIRECTING THE UTILITY
COMPANY TO PLACE UTILITY POLES
AND OTHER FACILITIES BEHIND CURBS."
LOCATION: East side of Orange Avenue, south of Service Avenue ® for
the development of Precise Plan No. 263, Rev. 1 m Shoe Corporation
of America,
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RESOLUTION NO. 2164 ® Continued
Mayor Heath: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution,
• Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Towner that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Townerg Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2164.
RESOLUTION NO. 2165 The City Clerk presented:
ADOPTED ".A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA CHANGING
THE NAME OF ARROYO AVENUE TO
GARVEY AVENUE o 99
Mayor Heath: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder that
said resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as fellows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
• Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2165.
RESOLUTION NO. 2166
ADOPTED
Mayor Heath:
The City Clerk presented:
t9A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA CHANGING
THE NAME OF OREGON AVENUE TO
GRAND AVENUE,99
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the
body of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Barnes that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No, 2166.
• PRECISE PLAN NO, 260
ACCEPT SANITARY SEWER FACILITIES
(Beattie & Miller)
APPROVED
LOCATION: West side of Azusa Avenue,
south of Rowland Avenue.
Bond will be released when street
improvements are in and accepted.
Inspector's final report on file
staff recommends acceptance,
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PRECISE PLAN NO, 260 ACCEPT SANITARY SEWER FACILITIES - Continued
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Adams$ and
carried that sanitary sewer facilities in Precise Plan No. 260
be accepted and the bond held until street improvements are in
. and accepted.
RELEASE OF $1,000.00 Principal: Stan Sigur Sewers.
STREET EXCAVATION BOND
APPROVED Hartford Accident and Indemnity
Co. Bond No. N-31-34994 in the
amount of $1,000.00.
Obligations guaranteed by this bond have been satisfactorily fulfilled.
Motion by Councilman Towner,.seconded by Councilman Snyder, and
carried, that authorization be given for the release of Hartford
Accident and Indemnity Co. Bond No. N-31-34994 in the amount
of $1,000.00 to the Principal, Stan Sigur Sewers.
PLANNING COMMISSION
PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
OF AUGUST 2, 1961
The City Clerk reviewed the
action of the Commission re-
lative to the various matters
before them at their meeting of
August 2.
• To the question of Councilman Towner, Mr. Joseph stated that there
had been no zone changes involved in any of the precise plans that
had been heard before the Planning Commission.
No other requests were made by Council to have before them other
items than those so designated.
SCHEDULED MATTERS
PROJECT NO. C-121 LOCATION: Cameron Avenue from
CAMERON AVENUE STREET Sunset to Evanwood Avenues.
IMPROVEMENTS
Awarded to Bids were opened at 10:00 A.M.2
Aman Bros. August 10, 1961 in the office of
the City Clerk and referred to
the Engineering Department for
recommendation. Proof of publication of the notice of this hearing
on July 27 and August 3, 1961 has been received from the West Covina
Tribune, and also as a news item in the Green Sheet on July 25, 19614
The recommendation of the City Engineer was that the bid be awarded
to Aman Bros. as the lowest responsible bidder, with all bid bonds
returned to the unsuccessful bidders.,
• Bids received were as follows:
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PROJECT NO. C-121 CAMERON AVENUE STREET IMPROVEMENTS - Continued
AMAN BROS. $ 99229.99
CROWELL & LARSON 9,709.65 NO BID BOND
BODDUM CONSTRUCTION CO. 102251,50
• D & W PAVING CONTRACTOR 109467.79
KIRKLAND PAVING CO, 102858.50
All bids contained 10% bid bonds except as designated above.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder that
the award of the contract for Project No, C-121 be given to Aman.
Bros. as the lowest responsible bidder in the amount of $9,229.99
and that bid bonds to be returned to the unsuccessful bidders.
Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent- None
PROJECT NO. C-144-CIVIC LOCATION- Parking areas and
CENTER IMPROVEMENT driveways around City Hall and
Bid awarded to Little League Ball Park,
Kirkland Paving Company
Bids were opened at 10:00 A.M.,
August 10, 1961 in the office of
the City Clerk and referred to
the Engineering Department for recommendation. Proof of publication
• of the notice of this hearing on July 20th and 27th, 1961 has been
received from the West Covina Tribune and also as a news item in
the Green Sheet on July 14, 1961.
Bids received were as follows:
Correction
KIRKLAND PAVING CO, $ 32007.14
MAN BROS. 32091.57
JOHN W. TIEDEMANN 39483.24
AMERICAN ASPHALT PAVING CO, 39576.18
D & W PAVING CONTRACTOR 32676.00
BODDUM CONSTRUCTION CO, 49622.85 $ 42627.40
All bids contained 10%® bid bonds,
The City Engineer recommended the contract be awarded to Kirkland
Paving Co. as the lowest responsible bidder. with all bid bonds to be
returned to the unsuccessful bidders.
Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes:: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
• HEARINGS
ZONE CHANGE NO. 182 Applicant: Ralphs Grocery Company
APPROVED
and LOCATION: 1742 Puente Avenue,
PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN between Eileen and Azusa Avenues.
NO, 266 (Rev. 1)
HELD OVER TO THE NEXT Request to reclassify from zone
REGULAR MEETING R-P and R-A. potential R-P to C-1
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ZONE CHANGE NO, 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO, 266 REV (1) -Continued
denied by the Planning Commission on May 17, 1961, Resolution No.
1044; appealed by the applicant on May 18, 1961. Hearing held over
from meeting of July 24, 1961, Request for adoption of precise plan
• of design denied by the Planning Commission, Resolution No. 1069;
appealed by applicant on July 20, 1961.
Mayor Heath: I believe the public hearing is
still open on the zoning and the
precise plan is before us tonight
for the first time. On the zoning, the zoning was denied by the
Planning Commission under their Resolution No. 1044. Does anyone
desire to have this particular resolution re -read? (There were no
such requests by Council members.)
We now have a request for the adoption of a precise plan. This was
denied.by the Planning Commission under their Resolution No. 1069.
(Resolution No. 1069 was read by the City Clerk.)
IN FAVOR
Mr, Fe Garvey I represent the applicant and
274 E. Rowland Ave. it is my intention not to touch
Covina, Calif. on the zoning phase except as
necessary in rebuttal. I believe
enough has been said on that sub-
ject, from our point of view, related to those facts. I should
like to take about 10 to 15 minutes on those matters related to
• the precise plan of design, aside from zoning, because this is an
appeal with respect to the plan which is on the board and which,
I hope, you have had an opportunity to reviews
It differs in essence from the original precise plan which was a
group of associated stores in an IL° shape with the market at
one end forming an ILF and a drug store at the other end. The
revised plan has moved the buildings from 55-feet to 60-feet from
the westerly line of the property, 5-feet additionally to the east,
and has eliminated a number of the stores so that there are two
solid uses now proposed in there which would be a department store
and a grocery store consolidated into two adjoining buildings to
which there is a patio entrance in between.
This plan eliminates the service station from the corner, which
is a presently permitted use, and will be used for parking area
instead.
The architect, in drawing this plan, attempted to comply with all
the conditions laid down on the original plan approved by the
Commission, I would actually direct your attention, for the min-
ute, to what the motion of the Commission was, that there would be
heavier use. But I doubt if there would be more with this than
with the other because here you have only two users whereas the
other had a number of users which were a department store, drug
store and satellite tenants, so delivery and truck traffic coming
• in will be cut down. I do.not believe there will be any particular
increase in the amount of vehicular traffic coming to the build-
ing because of two uses rather than what was proposed before.
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO, 266 REV (1.) -Continued
Mr. Garvey - Continued:
The elimination of the service station was desired by many people
• and it has been the feeling that there are enough service stations
there at the moment,
I do not believe, necessarily, that service traffic abutting R-1
is detrimental to the precise plan because you need ground use of
the property to service it efficiently and other patterns .in the
City of a similar use or location, a number of grocery markets
such. as Safeway and others, are abutting residential areas and
receive deliveries. Therefore, I do not think this is a valid
objection.
With respect to the loading zones, they are logically Located at
the back because of practical and economic reasons. Ralphs proposal
is to make a pit or incline down to unload at floor level which
will be protected by a wing wall and not to be visible from the
wall provided at the back or traffic passing here because of walls
in here.
This is located adjacent to the golf course with possibly one house
affected but there are schools here so there is a minimum atount of
interference of backyard living from the storeo
Adequate parking can be provided, and I believe the conditions
designed by the architect meet every single condition laid down in
the original precise plan and improved it by extending the building
• 5-feet as we had 55-feet and now have 60-feet including a buffer
strip to be filled with planting recommended by the proper departments.
It had been maintained that you couldn't have deliveries always
made from just 7 A.M. to 6 P.M. but ordinarily delivery would
not start before 7 A.M. and ordinarily they would be completed by
6 P.M. However, sometimes an emergency delivery would have to
take place. But the hours stated are the normal delivery pat-
tern on both the uses to go in here.
Another question raised was when this would start. It will start
as soon as it is feasible to get a building permit and complete
necessary architectural steps. Both applicants are willing to go
immediately ahead when drawings are prepared, necessary engineering
done and plan checks proved. But the land is expensive and cannot
remain idle.
Both portions of the precise plan shall be developed at relatively
the same time. There may be some slight difference as to which
end will be started first but to all intents and purposes both
will, develop at the same time.
The Planning Commission indicated it was a feasible plan and also
indicated it was an improvement and I am at a loss to understand
the approval of the first plan and the denying of the second plan
when it was indicated that the second plan was an improvement.
• IN OBJECTION
Mr. No J. McNeill On July 31 I attended the joint
636 No. Eileen meeting of the Council, Commission
and Chamber of Commerce. The
purpose was to determine which
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ZONE CHANGE NO, 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO, 266 REV (1) -Continued
Mr. McNeill - Continued
• way the City was going as to commercial development and it was
decided that geographically the City is, without a doubt, the
commercial center of the San Gabriel Valley. If this is true the
City,should be able to pick and choose the types of business to
locate here. Now isn't the time to accept any offer that comes
your way. Just because business is asking to come in you shouldn't
just say "here it is, take your pick and no matter where you locate
we will rezone to fit your wish." The City should say, if the
business is the kind we want, that the City has rules and regulations
for them to abide by.
The Commission and Council agreed on West Covina having more than
enough discount houses now and yet this is what is being offered
here, which is Zody's as indicated in the Los Angeles Times, and
that they are opening some 33 new stores in the next few years.
If the City is to be the commercial center of the valley we need
the type of business that will attract shoppers here, and another
discount: house won't get shoppers in here, let alone from all over
the vall.eyo
What bothers me is that if a representative of a particular business
tells the City it wants to locate on a particular piece of property,
and if this piece of property is not zoned for business, and if that
business only is planning to use part of the property, and if this
• business doesn't say who is going to use the rest, - will Council
grant a zone change not knowing more than this?
On Zone Change No. 182 the meeting was held open for the purpose of
viewing the precise plan. The Commission denied this plan four to
one. If the Commission is to determine the proper uses in this
City, and they do a good job, how can you do anything but follow
their recommendations?
It was mentioned what would happen if people try to sell their
homes before property values decreased too much. Since then there
are two homes on Myrtlewood up for sale owned by people who filed
in protest and I am wondering if they have less faith than we have
or do not trust their City government? We lived behind a market
in Arcadia for five years and I, for one, do not want any more
of it.
I have here a picture of my home and it represents the type of home
that is directly behind this commercial development, This isn't
like a $10,000 or $11,000 home where if they didn't like this de-
velopment it wouldn't really matter because they could easily be
sold at a price, but these types of homes here, with this type of
development of commercial, isn't going to have people offer the
amount of money to the present owners that they would have to get
for these.homes relative to what was paid for them.
• Mr. Ho Bluthrode I am employed by an architectural
1830 Pioneer Dr. firm, Daniel, Mann, Johnson and
West Covina, Calif. Mennan but I am not representing
them, only myself, in this
matter,
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ZONE CHANGE NO, 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO, 266 REV (1) -Continued
Mr. Bluthrode - Continued:
• This property not only has eight homes involved but you have all
the R-1 property where it is presently vacant and if this goes
commercial the people who own these pieces of property and zoned
the same way the R-P was zoned will ask for commercial zoning so
that what you decide here will affect everyone in the back.of a
vacant piece of land in this area.
I understand these properties were all previously R-l.and were
requested to be rezoned to the present zoning but the buildings
were never built. I still maintain that not only 8 homes will be
affected but all homes surrounding vacant land in this area right now.
The school property is here and there is access to the school at
this point. The children come down here across this area and come
down the street to the elementary school and if this center would
do the business that ;they think they will, it will, pull, people
down Puente Avenue from this direction and create a traffic
hazard here and you will have irate property and home owners de-
siring traffic signals. I do not know if the County or the City
would have to pay to install. some safeguards for their children.
I understand that the State would take care of this but it is still
creating a traffic hazard because trucks come down the freeway off
ramp at -Azusa and make a left-hand turn into the property.
I believe that Mr. Launer of the Planning Commission summed up the
property owners point when he said that if he were a property
owner in back of this, he could not, honestly, say that he would
be in favor of this and that he did not believe it was best use
of the land and therefore he would have to vote against it.
This wall will be allowed to be some 18-feet in height, This
retail store of 70,000 square feet is going to the maximum so
there is a potential 18-feet along here with the 6-foot block
wall. This is a perfect sound reflector for the trucks going
back and forth and it will. be beamed into the backs of the houses
and not a single house here doesn't have bedrooms on the back.
Ralphs announced their delivery hours but they didn't say they
would never change delivery hours. In fact, Ralphs said that they
would not want to be bound to the times of delivery, although right
now the deliveries would be from 6 to 7 or 7 to 7. But there is
nothing to say that at Christmas time the trucks couldn't be coming
in at all hours, midnight or 3 in the morning. In this respect we
do not know that Ralphs has any control over the retail store. They
are selling property to this store as an independent operation and
any agreement made with Ral;phs;may;;not necessarily bind these people
and we do not know what their operation will. be.
I do not know how you could accept the plan or zone change. You
• would have to know what sort of a business this is and it may not
be one that would be at all desirable next to R-lo
Mr. Sa,BAI.koff I would like to state that the
630 No. Eileen property is not owned by Ralphs
as Councilman Barnes seems to
be under the impression. When
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ZONE CHANGE NO, 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 266 REV (1) -Continued
Mr. Balkoff - Continued:
• Ralphs was questioned by Mayor Heath it was indicated the sale of
the property was contingent upon getting the zone change. If this
is zoned Ralphs stated they would sell off a portion to a discount
house, Zody°s by name in the newspapers.
If this plan is approved there will be 60 to 70 large trucks
going north on Azusa, Each day there are 20 to 30 going to Ralphs
and 30 to 35 for "the:..department store and when they get to Puente
Avenue they all make a left turn onto Puente and another sharp turn
onto this property. There are 1700 cars a day going one way on
Puente and if you double that figure you are saying 3400 cars going
both ways, I do not know how many more cars there will be if this
use was here but it would be far greater than 3400 daily. Visualize
cars going east on Puente, plus additional cars coming out of this
parking area and all backed up on Puente waiting for traffic sig-
nals to change and then these trucks, plus cars, trying to make a
left turn onto the parking area and .blocked off by cars going east
on Puente Avenue, There would be congestion of traffic backed up
by trucks which wouldn't allow cars going east to move when the
light turns to green and Azusa Avenue would be a quiet residential,
street by comparison because trucks making a right turn after mak-
ing a left turn on San Bernardino Road are not blocked by cars.
Also the children going to the high school and Traweek and pressing
• the signal change button. It would be like Times Square in New
York City and nothing but confusion. When the trucks get on market;
property they would have to go south.
I might be able to live with cars going behind here but.60 to 70
semi trucks going back and forth, with some unloading with their
motors running, is an impossibility.
The 60-feet isn't a great distance away, This room is approximately
36-feet and if someone started to move a chair the extra distance
away let alone moving cartons of groceries,or produce you could
hear it over here.
Ralphs also doesn't mention where their air conditioning system or
refrigeration units are going and if you think these are quiet just
go to the market at Yaleton and Irwindale and stand 60-feet away
and see if they are quiet.
Trees will block out the sight of buildings but not the noise of the
loading docks.
Even if the hours of delivery are in writing, within six months
they will be coming in here crying hardship and you gentlemen would
have to go along with them to protect their investment.
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• Mr, G. Kritchevsky We who have haunted these hal-
616 No. Eileen lowed halls since April 5, are
being irrevocably forced to an
obvious conclusions Further,
consideration of the zone change and precise plan under discussion
necessitates a period of reflection during which we must nail
down ground rules, basic principles and legal considerations
which may not be easily subjected to the arbitrary guillotine
of expediency,
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ZONE CHANGE NO, 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO, 266 REV (1) -Continued
Mr. Kritchevsky - Continued°
• We must clearly delineate the
and precise plan with respect
parties concerned. If this is
laws:of man can be changed by
current legal status of zone change
to legal obligations imposed on
not adequate unto the day, the
man.
What can be done to afford legal protection to both residential
and business facilities so that each may pursue his course in good
faith as good neighbors? We may have faith in the good intentions
of our present city officials, but what about the future? As the
legal eagle said to a dearly beloved lady: "You say you love me,
mother mine, but sign this on the dotted line." For all. we know
the City Council may become the graduate school to the kindergarten
of the Chamber of Commerce. We remember well their advisory com-
ments of two weeks agog ranging from the conventional soft sell
snow job to the following type of statement, "if a business enter-
prise feels that a piece of land is what they need, and 35-40
homes may be on it, level them." I now rephrase what 1°.tried to
communicate that night in a mild, polite manner. Put your money
where your mouth is, and remember that this is not a fire sale,
May we now consider a hurdle of particular importance, one that has
been hesitantly approached, circled warily, then, usually forgotten,
It is time for the Council members to ,damp this hurdle one at a
time. Does anything less than a sizeable zone buffer constitute
adequate protection for resident or business man? Daring the re-
jection of the revised precise plan by the Planning Commission,
Mr. Launer expressed the thought that it was a very nice little
plan, Then, after a brief hesitation, he decided that he cer-
tainly wouldn't want it in his backyard. To rephrase this idea,
though it has been said that there's no love without propinquity,
I would better love these commercial. developments someplace other
than on my lap;
Let .us dwell briefly on the scholarly direct thoughts expressed
by Mr. Jackson who seemed to play the role of the great dissenter
when the original precise plan was under consideration. The great
dissenter is not one who says "no" when everyone else is saying
"yes". He cites clearly where he stands and exactly why he
stands there' He bases his stand on principle, both legal and
moral. His dissent today becomes the law of tomorrow. It does
not become the morality of tomorrow, because he simply bases his
opinion on the morality of today which so many others, often in
the great majority, sacrifice in the name of expediency before the
onslaught of the myopic worshippers of the almighty buck.
All that we ask amounts to
esy indeed saves lives on
save West Covina as a City
to be the shopping center
• Mr. A. Munch -
1611 E. Puente Ave.
mere common courtesy. As common court -
our highways, perhaps it might also
of Beautiful Homes and still allow it
of the valley,
establishment like this for a piece
mercial, as yet?
I can't understand not talking
about zoning but talking about
a precise plan. How can you
pass a precise plan for a big
of property not zoned for com-
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 266 REV (1) -Continued
Mr. Munch - Continued:
The first problem to be faced is zoning of this property and then
whether the plan is suitable for that property. At the last
meeting of the Council another piece of property the other side
of Azusa, between Workman and Thelborn,.was up for consideration
for C-1. zoning. Councilman Towner made the statement that this
problem of zoning that you people have inherited he was very much
against when he was on the Commission and it was said you were
faced with answering something that was inherited from something
else, You tabled that zoning pending a study of the precise plan
and Mayor Heath expressed the opinion that such zoning should stop,
at Thelborn and there would be no way to stop that if this is given
to this here.
To consider a precise plan here on which there is no zoning would
open the gate for strip zoning which we have feared will go from
Workman right up the line. If you give the C-1 property here you
couldn't deny the other here and that is tabled for further study
but once this is granted it won't be long before others are here
for the same thing,
Mr. Bluthrode:
them and if they are
erty owner? This is
Commission assuming
I am wondering about the pro-
posed trees coming along here.
Who is going to take care of
not taken care of what course has the prop -
the only barrier proposed by the Planning
everything would go ahead.
I do not believe that any market I have seen has ever taken care of
their planting outside of the physical boundaries itself. You
might find a few like Eastland or the Broadway. But who is going
to take care of this?
IN REBUTTAL
Mr. Garvey: Someone talked about the Plan-
ning Commission as being, in
essence, the be all and end all
of zoning, But if this were true there would be no sense to a right
of appeal to the Council. The Planning Commission is delegated the
court of last resorts subject to appeal, but with only the purpose
of making recommendations to this body. To only take the position
taken by the Planning Commission would, in. a sense, do away with
one group or the other in all of our cities.
I do not know about the price of the houses or whether or not this -
is a material consideration that should be given as to the effect
there, but if you go around the entire area and bring in other
zone cases to reflect upon this zone case you can start, perhaps,
at the City of Azusa and come down the line and in our behalf I
• could point out the entire characteristics of Route 39 and where
and how it is going would only be to beat particular drums once
more and to repeat what has been said.
If we can rely upon Mr. Balkoff°s prophecy and this would become
like Times Square, the greatest disservice to the City, then, would
be to deny this tonight and any other night. If you consider Times
Square in New York City, the value, the effect of its location and
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 266 REV (1) -Continued
Mr. Garvey Continued:
• the rise in cost of property it would be a great disservice to the
City not to grant this if this is to occur.
The truck traffic is necessary, You have Azusa Avenue loaded with
trucks going to San Bernardino Road, and the left-hand turn will
notaffect anything as you have signals here already. If three
directional traffic became a problem it would be relatively inex-
pensive to put such signals in as you would not need completely
new signalization here.
The sidewalks to be put in will conform to City standards and the
school children who come down here, down Eileen, can't have a traffic
hazard here. There will be sidewalks all the way around so they will
be on sidewalks and not on vacant prairies or walking along streets.
I will again cite the Barranca Street School, with Eastland, and
then with Grand Avenue going through to bring more traffic, which
has proved little detriment or hazard to the children.
As to the noise with respect to refrigeration and the air condition-
er, they will be enclosed in the building and not outside so, in
order to enjoy the gentle murmur of these you will have to be in-
side and not outside.
• This could be either C-1 or C-2 if it is a good use and there is
a good precise plan. We are arguing this presently should be
changed to a higher use and the tax assessor assesses this the
same as commercial property with just a fraction off. The City
of West Covina, in its wisdom, has indicated what uses are in
C-1 and what uses are in other °C° classifications. The uses in-
tended to be placed here are uses authorized under your present
law, This isn't a hearing as to whether there is to be an ord-
inance changed to reclassify uses. Bothof these retail uses
are permitted in C-1 and the fact that this is a large body
of land shouldn't make you myopic to the problem that this is
a C-1 use,
This would be no different under 15 different ownerships, each own-
ing a strip, and if put in a use for each of his 1/15th it would
generate the same traffic noise and more nuisance with 15 people
instead of two,
We hope to have good neighbors because we not only want good
neighbors but desire them for customers.
There being no further testimony, the hearing was declared closed.
Councilman Towner asked if there were any conditions set forth on
the precise plan and Mr. Joseph indicated there had been and the
conditions were read by the City Clerk.
• At a question from Mayor Heath the City Attorney indicated that
it did not make any difference, legally, which is considered first
the zoning or the plan, It was agreed the precise plan would be
under consideration first.
Councilman Towner: I think the problem of devel-
opment of North Azusa Avenue
has been indicated before and
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO, 266 REV (1)-COntiAued-
Councilman Towner - Continued-
has been gathered from prior discussions in public meetings in
Council. There is an inclination to grant the commercial zoning
here so I think that to adequately protect homes I will confine
myself to what should be done with the precise plane
Frankly I do not think the existing precise plane even with the
recommendations of the Planning Director, which are very stringent,
is sufficient. There is one other item to be clarified and then I
think there should be a precise plan to go along with.
The problem I see was one brought out by the Planning Commission in
their resolution in,which they raised objections to truck traffic
accessway adjacent to the west side of the property. There has been
a good job done in screening loading platforms, but this, in itself,
does not get rid of the entire objection, which is the trucks up
and down the accessway even with trees that will border adjacent
homes. If the precise plan were to be changed so that truck traffic
is eliminated from the westerly access the major problem here would
be gone and you would have, I think, adequate buffering.
As a suggestion, perhaps they could move the loading platforms to
the easterly side of the property and I think this would solve this
particular problem,
• The other thing would be, if possible, to put the condition on it
that trucks are not to make use of this accessway.
Councilman Snyder: I would tend to agree with Coun-
cilman Towner°s statements in
part. I do not know how we
can snake them stay 60-feet back and then not let them use this
area, It seems it would work for"trucks not to travel south
through that alley -way if you move the loading docks.
So fax as zoning. This particular location and size fits in well
with our concept of a regional center and for that reason I think
I would approve of commercial zoning here and I think if we could
clear up the points on the plan I probably could go along with
the plan too.
Councilman Towner- I do not think you mean a
regional center in the essence
of its terminology as this is
a neighborhood center.
Councilman Snyder- Yes., it is a neighborhood cen-
ter, but the zoning alone fits
in with a regional center such
as traffics access, location within :the:.City".and::Iocation,_:in.:_the
valley, disregarding the precise plane
• Councilman Barnes: I think there was a mention of
the fact, from someone in the
audience, regarding trees to
the west side and how they would be maintained,
I am sure that Ralphs would agree to maintain the trees and water
these at all times; Is this true?
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ZONE CHANGE NO. 182 - PRECISE'PLAN.OF DESIGN NO, 266 REV (1) -Continued
Mr. R. Ralphs: We would on the section adj-
acent to our buildingo I am
sure that you have ordinances
requiring the maintenance of buffering and, planting areas and this
would be a restriction on the property.
Councilman Snyder: This property offers less probes: fi
lems in buffering than some that
we have handled and I think the
eight homes..could`be adequately protected.
Councilman,Barnes: They have set this building 60-
feet away and the only problem
is the trucks traveling back and
forth to the rear. As to the others, I would like to see this cor-
rected on the plan if there is any possibility of doing it. Pos-
sibly moving one loading dock not Ralphs parcel, putting the other
dock to the front of the building, and possibly not permit the
trucks to go back and forth in back of the buildingo
Councilman Snyder:
Councilman Adams-.
Perhaps a tunnel or separation
of buildings made by (for)
trucks between there.
I feel the two problems are tied
together and to pass on one and
not the other isn't proper.
I wasn't here to hear prior testimony and I have not had sufficient
time to review the written Minutes so if this matter goes to a
vote I would ask to be disqualified.from voting on the zone change.
Mayor Heath: To move the loading docks to the
east side is putting them in
front of the building and spoil-
ing the architecture completely. It_.would be unfair and .a poor
design to put the loading docks in that Ideation. The precise plan
shows this 60-feet away from.property and I would like to protect
the property but we must. take a.realistic stand on this and when-
ever we put in an establishment of this type someone has to get
hurt and this is, sometimes, at the expense of the property owners.
We have to determine whether these people should get hurt or the
City benefit. If the people are hurt it should certainly be to a
minimum and hurt them the least we possibly can. I would grant
this driveway in the back would be an inconvenience for the people
living next door but I really do not know what else you could do.
I think the landscaping and trees is about the most protection
you could afford and therefore I would feel I could go along with
the plan as it is and any other stipulations that we might put on
to further protect the people. But we can't make it too protective
otherwise we will drive business out of the City.
City Attorney Williams -
Councilman Snyder:
Could back of buildings face
south instead of west? Swing
what is now west to what would
be south.
I think there is no pi°oblem to
eliminate truck. traffic on the
west side and that there are
C. Co 8=14-61 Page Seventeen
ZONE CHANGE .NO° , 182..=-PREUSE PLAN OF DESIGN NO°''1266 RED' (1) -Continued
Councilman Snyder - Conti:nuede
many ways.,;it could be done, designwise° .
Councilman Barnes%asked if Ralphs`architect was present but it was
in-dicated':.he::was not a's he was.unable to attend, -this .evening.
Councilman. Towner h think 'the. problems raised here
Are not :insurmountable° I "dis-
agree, with °the Mayor _ and I think
the City, is; its people .and the 'C; ty is not' an entity of itself and
what is done:. ids .on- behalf° of the people and should be,- done with
their ...regard
Mayor Heath.'., Perhaps my'statement.was.not
very.c-1ear. I'
was referring
to the City as population and
people of the City. and ,residents as people living adjacent. My
point being that we have °to make a° decision whether we' aid ,the
residents. surrou`ndi'ng.;the area or. a'id the,`.residents of . the City,
Councilman Towner°° ::J do not think we are faced with
iha.t�alternative here I think
we.can accomplish both purposes
but in order ,.to do it, ', 'as. I, see it, _ would,be.. to .make changes in
the plan as. presented' arid. I do not think that these changes are
• insurmountable I'thnk_tle Planning Departments recommendations
are good but it still leaves the problem of -truck traffic on the
.west side and if you solve that by shifting building or by using
building where it is.located and putting truck -access on the east
side I think it would be',the answer.
Councilman Snyder° With wingwal:l on the south,.you
could unload to the southeast
corner.
Mr. Garvey: I'would point out that the south
place; you are talking about moving
iaes.I they :golf eau°se. and doesn't
face anything but one home which is.protected bya wingwall°
Councilman Snyder° This generates traffic up and
down that. alleyway.
Mr..Garvey° We do 'not know - whether it will. or
won't but there are many other
installations:in West Covina
where you do have traffic behind store up. to houses
Councilman;. Towner::.The accessway is useable by
automobiles: for 'parking and
shown As such on`the plan and
• in that respect it is'reasonabre The problem, is one of the, trucks
using this .accessway and., if the applicant is agreeable,. to changing
that aspect of. it: _I beIiev- : it could be .properly . handled.
Councilman .Snyder ° I; ,would agree and I think it can
be'. solved easily."'
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Page Eighteen
ZONE CHANGE NO. 182 - PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 266 REV (1) -Continued
Councilman Barnes: I think with proper traffic
control you could have a turn-
around and back into the north
and also the south end of the building in the same way without
traveling back and forth in the alley to the rear. I think this
can be controlled.
Councilman Towner: Can we put a condition on the
precise plan accessway in that
it not be used for truck traffic
and let them work it out?
City Attorney Williams: The plan has been changed and
submitted to you and to do that
you would be approving loading
docks at a certain place and then not permitting them to be used
which doesn't seem to be quite congruous.
Councilman Snyder:
what they can do along these lines.
Councilman Barnes:
I would be for granting the
zoning, myself, and holding up
the plan until :::they can show us
A method of controlling traffic?
Councilman Snyder: Yes. I think the zoning stands
alone. It is good zoning with
or without the'precise plan.
Councilman Barnes: I feel. that we could pass on the
zoning tonight and I think these
problems can be worked out with
the applicant in some manner. I do not feel any necessity in hold-
ing up the zoning for the plan but I think the plan can be worked
out satisfactorily and a good pattern of traffic can be shown.
Mayor Heath:
City Attorney Williams:
Councilman Towner:
City Attorney Williams:
Councilman Towner:
Mr. Ralphs:
and have tried to alleviate
If this plan has radical changes
on it, it must go back to the
Planning Commission?
Yes, if it had substantial changes
�.,but�;for,;:.a,.�report not for a
hearing.
If the applicant proposed
changes and they are acceptable
to us could we approve it with-
out referral back?
The question is whether it re-
mains the same precise plan or
changes the precise plane
Do you have any changes you
would propose on your plan?
We have studied the plan at great
length and have heard many of
these same objections many times
the objections but were unable to do so,
C. C. 8-14-61
Page Nineteen
ZONE CHANGE NO. 182 - PRECISE.PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 266.REV.(1)_- Continued
Mr. Ralphs - Continued:
This is the only plan we can come up with under which the property
can be used to advantage and we would prefer Council to act on the
zoning and the plan as one unit, and if the plan and-zoning.is approved
then we can go ahead on that basis. We can't go ahead on this other
basis and I can't see how it could be used to its best advantage.
Councilman Snyder -
Mr. Ralphs:
Mayor Heath:
Councilman Snyder,.
If we put restrictions that there
is no truck traffic in alleyway?
We would like to, but we just
can't.
If loading docks are in the back,
how will you restrict truck
traffic to it?
Not the whole area, just to the
south.
Mayor Heath-. This restriction might make it
difficult to police. There is
no way to differentiate between
trucks and cars except by a sign, and once a truck isthrough, the
act is done.
• Councilman Barnes: Is there a possibility that we
could turn this building around
and have the store facing Puente
and have loading docks adjacent to the golf course?
•
Mr. Ralphs- We studied that to begin with,
it was the first idea we had, Y
;but it wasn't a practical solution
to the problem.
Mayor Heath-- I do not think it would fit if you
measure the length of the building
and lot. I doubt if it would
cross that way.
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Barnes, and
carried, that Zone Change No. 182 be approved.
Councilman Towner voting "No" for the reasons indicated before in that
it is felt there should be an adequate precise plan before Council
before change of zoning.
Councilman Adams aVstaining from the vote.
INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE
The City Attorney presented-
"AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF `WEST COVINA AMENDING
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE TO
REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES."
(Ralphs Grocery Company)
Motion by Councilman Barnes., seconded by Councilman Snyder, and
carried, that further reading of the body of the ordinance be waived.
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C. C. 8-14-61 Page Twenty
INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE - Continued
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and
carried, that the ordinance be introduced and given its first reading.
Councilman Towner voting "No."
Councilman Adams abstaining from the vote.
Councilman Snydero If there is no way that can be
found tonight to take care of this
plan, I would be of the opinion
that the plan be denied until this problem can be settled. I think it
can be settled, but I do not think that we have to accept this as it
is. I think there can be a solution here.
Mayor Heath:
traveling the property in the back.
Councilman Snyder -
On numerous shopping centers
around the City., we have a like
condition, as shown here of trucks
It doesn't make it right.
Mayor Heath-. Maybe not.
Councilman Snyder- I would like to approve this
tonight if I didn't think there
was a possible way of taking care
of this problem, but I think it can be taken care of and relatively
easy with a few changes in the design, although it isn't up to us to
design it. But I feel it could be done.
Councilman Barnes -
Councilman Snyder:
City Attorney-,
I would like to hold it over to
see if the architect can't come
up with some design to better the
situation here.
Any major change will have to go
back to the Commission.
Not for hearing, but for report.
Councilman Snyder- If there were no other way, and
this was a compromise, I think
.we would have to accept it, but
just looking at it there are many ways, to me, of not -having trucks
going down the alley and I wouldn't want trucks running down behind
my house.
Councilman Towner-, The requirements here in the time
required for final passing of the
ordinance can still allow for the
working out of the problems on the plan, so if this is held over that
still doesn't affect the total picture on finalization.
Mayor Heath -
Such as?
Councilman Towner- From my point of view, the
Planning Director has indicated
some strict conditions accom=
plishing just whatever is needed, with the exception of the truck
traffic, which should be eliminated from the accessway and there are
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C. C.. 8-14-61 Page Twenty-one
PRECISE PLAN 266 .- REV::- (1) - Continued
Councilman Towner - continued:
means of accomplishing
to shielding residences
and if we wanted that,
Mayor Heath-.
Councilman.Towner-
this, and secondly, I would recall references
from lights on the southerly and northerly side
we should also include the west side.
What do you mean by truck traffic,
which should be eliminated from
the accessway?
-On westerly side of the precise
plan, there is a 30-foot area
designated accessway obviously
indicated for through traffic, and that is what I had reference to.
Automobiles could reasonably use it, but not trucks.
Councilman Snyder- I do not object to trucks on the
entire west side just using it as
a roadway to come in on the north
for a certain distance, but it shouldn't be used for through and
through roadway. Something could be used letting them come down a
distance, but not a whole distance.
Mayor Heath:
of it an equal distance from each end
accept the plan tonight?
Councilman Towner -
off -.the -cuff solution. There
not be hurt by holding.it up,
buffering, I think we should
If I would entertain a motion
where the accessway had a chain
or fence placed across the center
to stop truck traffic, could you
I do not think that is necessary.
I think this can be done with a
little more deliberation and an
is sufficient time so the applicant will
He may not like it, but to get adequate
do this.
I would indicate further that I consider Ralphs Grocery Company an
unusually fine commercial development and would welcome them into the
City, but I think they will have to come in and be a good neighbor
and I am sure that they want to be just that, and that this problem
can be worked out.
Councilman Snyder- I only threw my idea in as -a
possible solution, but I think
there is a better one with more
architectural study.
Councilman Barnes- I think they will have a problem
with truck traffic not being able
to go through. I do not see how
you can get trucks turned around to get into the unloading docks, and
I see no solution without locating the building out to Azusa Avenue
facing Puente Avenue.
Councilman Snyder- It isn't up to us to give solutions,
but I think there are many. They
could have a separation between
buildings.
Mayor Heath- You understand what Council is
requesting? Could you come up
with changes along this line?
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C. C. 8-14-61
Page Twenty-two
PRECISE PLAN 266 - REV. (1) - Continued
Mr. Ralphs: Yes, I understand, but there is
no practical solution to the
problems posed here, and. we would
prefer the zoning and the plan be considered as one and that -they both
be considered at the same time. Unless we can use this plan, the
property isn't useful for the type of development which we propose to
use it for.
City Attorney Williams-.
Councilman Snyder:
you have exhausted all solutions?
Mr. Ralphs:
The zoning will be reconsidered
at the time of the passing of the
ordinance.
Do you have any objection to waiting
two more weeks and trying to find
a solution, even though you think
we will consider trying again if
that is your wishes.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Barnes, and
carried, that Precise Plan of Design No. 266 (Rev. 1) be held over
to the next regular meeting of the City Council.
Mayor Heath called a recess. Council reconvened at 9:40 P. M.
ZONE VARIANCE NO. 346
APPROVED
and
PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 282
(Clyde W. and Pearl L. Busching)
HELD OVER TO NEXT MEETING
OF COUNCIL
LOCATION-, 1345 S. Halinor Avenue
between Ituni Avenue and Walnut
Creek Parkway.
Request to permit nonconforming
C-3 use in Zone R-1 and request
for adoption of precise plan of
design denied by the Planning
Commission, Resolutions No. 1074
and No. 1075. Appealed by the
applicant on July 20, 1961.
The resolutions of the Planning Commission were read by the City Clerk,
and he stated that the record should show that nineteen notices!.of this
public hearing were mailed out to property owners within the radius and
a Notice of.Public Hearing had been published in the West Covina Tribune
of August 3, 1961.
Mayor Heath opened the public hearing on Zone Variance No. 346 and
stated all those desiring to testify should rise and be sworn in by
the City Clerk.
IN FAVOR
Mr. F. Garvey This was before you once before on
247 Rowland Avenue -a different situation, and I will
Covina not take too much time to say more
than is necessary for the record.
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Page Twenty-three
ZONE VARIANCE NO. 346 and PRECISE.PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 282 - Continued
Mr. F. Garvey - Continued-.
I delegated the location of the property in relation to the freeway
turnoff at Puente Avenue, the commercial uses across the freeway, the
Republic Van Warehouse lot within 300 or 400 feet of this property,
the ten commercial uses at the end of the block which are visible from
herewith the reservation of an oil station use within 100 to 200 feet
of the property.
The property originally zoned R-1 and a part of this subdivision, and a
matter not brought out previously, is a C-3 use now across the street
and was part of the original subdivision of which this subject property
is a part,, and it was after the frontage road was put in that that
property was rezoned to C-3.
As said at a former hearing in this matter, the request for C-3 use
is not of our choi-ce., as what we have in mind is a small job printing
use, but the ordinance doesn't make a distinction between a large
printing press such as for a newspaper and a press for the lettering
of stationary and such ordinary things, and is not necessarily a noisy
operation and is a small job in character.
The Planning Department pointed out that within one lot of this lot 10
there is a non -associated use, 4o feet of "C" property in Baldwin Park,
but still part of the same tract fronting the frontage road, and has a
lot of area of influence with respect to this. In this area of influence
• is Cook Tractor across the street, notwithstanding it is technically
buffered by an adjoining street.
The applicant desires to use the back part of his property, but will
still leave enough room for adequate R-1 lot within the City of West
Covina, There are parking spaces provided. It is a family enterprise
and they are not asking for an absolute zone change, but asking for
relief.
We have not specifically in the application asked for a variance, nor
a conditional use permit nor a zone exception, which you do not have
here. But we feel this is a case of hardship with respect to this
owner and every wrong must have a remedy and we feel that you can
prescribe that remedy instead of asking us to try to put a round peg
in a square hole. We know the specific relief wanted, but we did not
ask for firm zoning, except as variance or conditional use, with any
conditions you might desire to place upon this.
There are changes in conditions of the neighborhood with the freeway,
freeway interchange and heavier traffic going past backyards of these
lots and adjoining lots than in an ordinary residential area.
This is an area of changing conditions and it is 'difficult to butt
your head against the first wall to bridge it to establish a change.
It possibly should be pointed out that the Commission indicated a
• change might be justified in the entire area, but at present, the
applicant seeks for a change which points to C-2 lot down the street
and which is essentially the same in that it doesn't take in the com-
plete lot, and actually it is in Baldwin Park and you can see the
relationship between these is the width of two lots. Back here is a
guest house or extra building here.
Page Twenty-four
ZONE VARIANCE -NO. 346 and.PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 282 - Continued
Mr. Garvey - Continued:
--There have been no protests at either hearing and at the first hearing
neighbors testified in the applicant's behalf.
The applicant is a person on which you can impose conditions and which
he would be willing to abide by. There has been general changes in the
neighborhood since it developed and there are those yet to come with
increased traffic and freeway.
There being -no further testimony, the hearing was declared closed.
Councilman Towner-. I do not ordinarily offend the
Planning Commission, and I disagree
but I am somewhat inclined to think
here that a condition for a variance has been meta I have been down to
look at the property, and I think there are unusual circumstances
affecting this particular location that would justify a variance. My
only concern in connection with it is the small depth or size of the
proposed piece subject to the variance, but I think if an adequate
plan can be worked out on that, that maybe this should be granted.
Councilman Barnes-. I feel very much as I did last.
time, that some relief should be
given to this property in that
very close to this property is a C-1 use, which as stated, is in i `
Baldwin Park. This, however, doesn't have anything necessarily to do
with us. However, across the street is C-3 use and I would like to
point out that the City has also granted a C-3 use on a portion of
this property. Therefore, I think it is indicated there is a possi-
bility of "C" zoning going into this particular area. I think the
freeway and the traffic that has been generated in this area would
warrant a variance or relief of some type for this property.. I see
no reason not to grant this.
Councilman Snyder-. I have nothing to add to the
statements made except that I
agree. I think this whole area,
as the Commission indicated, is going to have to be studied in the
future with the possibility of changes, and I do not see how we can
make this applicant wait for the whole study.
Councilman Adams-. I took a good view of this one
on the grounds, and I would go
along with the idea that this
area has changed and that there will be more changes. I would see
no particular reason this applicant shouldn't be granted some relief,
whatever the form may be.
Mayor Heath-. I agree with the Commission and
Planning Director that I do not
see how this satisfies a need
for a variance whatsoever. Across the street we have Cook Tractor in
Baldwin.Park, but it was .put in over the protest of the City. The
red area shown on the map was the condition of that parcel down to
the end of that street and did nothing more than carry on the commer-
cial that Baldwin Park had put in there and it was felt it was foolish
to hold that red section as R-1 when the area was C-3 to the north in
Baldwin Park.
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Page Twenty-five
ZONE .VARIANCE N0. 346 and,PREGISE PLAN.,OF DESIGN,NO. 282.- Continued
Mayor Heath -:Continued-.
The area across the -frontage road was made commercial by Baldwin Park,
also over the objection of our City.
As I see it, I think the frontage road separates pieces of the -property
to such an extent that.I see no justification for a variance. But I
do -see justification for a variance on both sides of this If this is
installed, and I think from this it would be perfectly justified if
it was asked for all the way up the street and there would be no
reason for anyone else not.getting it. Therefore, I think that before
it starts, it should be stopped, I see no justification for variance,
andI feel if you start this growth here you won't stop it legally or
any other way.
Councilman Snyder-,
and I think it is going to come in on
area here, Possibly an area even for
I do not think that anyone has
overlooked the fact that this
will start something in the area,
an over-all change in this entire
future large C-3 or even M.
Councilman Towner: Whether we agree or disagree with.
Baldwin Park, we are faced with
the actuality that there is com-
mercial on what was residential across the street, and I -think it
directly affects this property. The frontage road affects this pro-
perty, and the zone changes in the vicinity affect it, and I feel it
justifies a variance. I would like to have an over-all study, but I
can't see not justifying a variance here under the facts.
Mayor Heath: We have used barrier of .streets
between residential and com-
mercial throughout the City, and
it was not any more handicapped than this. Throughout the City., we
are using .streets as buffers.
Councilman Barnes: I question residential adjacent
to the freeway, whether it will
be kept up in the future. I
think we will find that possibly some of these areas will become slum,
a blight to any other areas, and I think this i-s detrimental to resi-
dential on the freeway or frontage road.
Mayor Heath-. Wherever there is C-3, it is a
malignant growth and should go
across the street.
Councilman Barnes,. No, I didn't say that, but wherever
there is a freeway or frontage road
of this type.
Mayor Heath-. All along the freeway., property
not R-1 should start with "C"?
Councilman Barnes: I am not exactly saying that, but
properties in similar locations are
not as nice as other property, and
I do not think it is exactly desirable for good R-1.
C. C. 8-14-61
Page Twenty-six
ZONE VARIANCE.!1NO. 346 and- PRECISE ...PLAN OF. DESIGN NO....282. Continued
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Barnes., and -
carried_, that: Zone Variance.No. 346 be approved to.permit a noncon-
forming C-3 use of Letterpress and Lithography not to exceed 22 x 34
inch size.and subject to the approval of a precise plan.,
Mayor Heath voting "No.",
Councilman Townerp. The,.setback on the building
between properties here, it looks
like the building Is right to the
property line according.to this precise plan.,
City. Attorney Williams-. Possibly you ,could stipulate the
ownership -of this property should
be di#ided.
Councilman Towner-. I,think so far as this particular_
owner is concerned, that would be
all right, but supposing the
property separated into two ownerships, can we control it?
City Attorney Williams-. If this is a means of getting
two sub -standard lots, each in
a different zone, I would hesitate
to do it, except on condition it remain as one lot. Approve it in that
the,man who has the burden has the benefit.
• Motion by Councilman Towner,, seconded by Coul'641man Snyder., that Precise
Plan No. 282 be approved., subject to the recommendations of the Con-
ditions of the Planning Department; and subjeo�t to the further condi-
tions that the property remain in thesamel:.ow,nership as:adjoining
residential portion.
Before the vote was raised by Mayor Heath in relation to requirement
of sidewalks which he felt were useless and unnecessary here. It was
pointed out that the Cook property in West Covina had required side-
walks and it is a usual requirement on "C" property everywhere in the
City. However, there was further discussion relative to,a question of
right-of-way here regarding didewal.ks and curbs and placements, etc.
The City Manager suggested that staff make a check on' ithis matter and
report to Council and that perhaps this plan could be held over pending
this if the applicant would so permit.
Mr. Busching indicated he would haVe:,'no objection to the,hold over on
the plan pending.a report.
The motion and second to approve was withdrawn.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and
carried, that Precise,Plan No. 282.b.held over to the next meeting
of the Council with the'rmission;of the applicant.
ZONE,CHANGE.NO. 192 and LOCATION- 1612 Harbert Street
PRECISE PLAN OF DESIGN NO. 283 .-:.,between Conlon and,'Roberta Avenues.
(Mr. & Mrs. Charles W'. Reeves)
APPROVED Request to reclassify from -Zone
`.,'.-C-1 to Zone R-3 Approved by
,,Planning commission, their reso-
lution No. 1072; request for adopt1fapproved precise planiby the
Planning Commistion.
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Page Twenty-seven
ZONE. CHANGE NO.:... 192,.and PRECISE. PLAN OF DESIGN vNO.: 283. Continued
The City Clerk. -read the resolutions of the Planning -Commission.
Mayor -Heath opened the.public.hearing and stated that all those desiring
to present testimony should rise and be sworn in by the City Clerk.
There being no testimony presented, the hearing was declared closed.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and
carried, that Zone Change No. 192 be approved.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Barnes, and
carried, that Precise Plan of Design No. 283 be approved, subject to
the recommendations of the Conditions of the Planning Commission.
ZONE VARIANCE.NO. 347
(Vernon Eichstaedt)
HELD OVER TO NEXT REGULAR
MEETING AT APPLICANT'S
REQUEST
Commission, Resolution No. 1066.
12, 1961.
LOCATION° 222 N. Azusa Avenue,
between Garvey Avenue (Freeway
Service Road) and Workman Avenue.
Request to permit nonconforming
wheel stops, fence, trailer uses
in Zone R-A denied by Planning
Appealed by the applicant on July
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Adams, and
• carried, that Zone Variance No. 347 be held over to the next regular
meeting of the City Council at the request of the applicant.
MEEKER AVENUE VACATION Hearing of protests in vacating
a portion of Meeker Avenue. Pro-
test hearing set for this date
under Resolution No. 2141.
Mayor Heath opened the public hearing and stated that all those desiring
to testify should rise and be sworn in by the City Clerk.
There being no testimony presented, the hearing was declared closed.
RESOLUTION NO. 2167 The City Attorney presented-.
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA ORDERING
THE VACATION OF A CERTAIN PORTION
OF MEEKER AVENUE."
Mayor Heath-. Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Barnes, that said
resolution be adopted. Motionpassed on roll call as follows-.
Ayes-. Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder,.Mayor Heath
Noes-. None
Absent-. None
Said resolution was given No. 2167.
C. C. 8-14-61
Page Twenty-eight
RECREATION AND PARKS
YOUTH-BASEBALL'COUNCiL- Mr. Berkman indicated the start of
• Mr. Berkman and Mr. Buck the organization and the reasons
behind it, in 1958, to coordinate
youth baseball players,of organized
leagues in the City. He indicated the matter of the use of the site of
Valencia Water Company requested by the Edgewood League coming before
this.Council and then requested to be tabled., with no attendance of that
League since March of 1961. He stated the firm conviction of the
Council members --although there had been approval of this site for this
league under certain conditions, after discussion had been made relative
to the matter after the item had come up again before the City Council
when introduced by Councilman Towner from a letter directly to them
from the Edgewood League and then referred to the Recreation and Parks
Commission with a recommendation to look upon it favorably --was that
13 and 14 year old boys should not play on a regulation 90-foot base
path diamond, but a.75-foot one, there shouldn't be 13, 14, and 15
year olds playing together, due to the difference in mental, social and
physical stamina. It was further stated another condition was that this
League should choose its boys for tryouts after the Pony and Colt
Leagues had their tryouts and on dates indicated by the Council. (YBC)
It was further felt that in taking. the 13, 14 and 15 year olds, and
leaving.out the 16 year olds, it did not help the 16 year old and
actually harmed the baseball program of the other leagues by breaking
the age groups down in this manner, which was contrary to what is and
has been done in the City system right along.
It was further indicated that this Council had been formed with City
approval to act as liaison and to recommend when it was felt necessary
in regard to baseball problems to the Parks and .Recreation Commission
and to consider those recommendations if it were necessary to carry
the matter to Council.
It was felt that the Edgewood League had done a good.job and could
continue to do a good job if the recommended program was accepted.
Mr. Buck, in essence, reiterated .the statements of Mr. Berkman and
stated that if there was concern for the development of the Valencia
site, the Council would guarantee to develop it the same as the
Edgewood League, and it should not be weighed in the light of benefit,
but in the light that this would not conform with what is being done
in the remainder of the City, particularly in regard to the age
grouping and the basepaths. Also, a Babe Ruth League is usually
formed if a Pony or Colt League is not working property. Whereas
this isn't the case. Mr. Isbell of the Edgewood League indicated
that he was surprised at the chastisement of the YBC relative to the
14 year olds playing on 90 foot base paths, since this is done in the
City, and not all 14 year olds are playing with 15 year olds. Some
13 and 14 year olds are in junior highschool, while some are in
senior highschool, so there is a conflicting situation in the City
school system as it stands.
• It was indicated there are Babe Ruth Leagues in Glendora and one to
be started in LaPuente, which also have both Pony and Colt Leagues.
The 13 and 14 year old was started on the 75-foot base path, and it
was scrapped because it didn't work out and going to 90-foot base path.
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c. c. 8-i4-61
YOUTH BASEBALL -,Continued
Page Twenty-nine
If the YBC was .held to, all boys -between 15 and 16 would have to play
• on a given size.diamond and in a given type organization, and it was
further felt there -are -more boys this age in the City that should be
and would like to play baseball. Without the breakover in this program
you will hold the 15 year old boys. Very few 16 year old -.boys have been
playing ball, they do not come out and that is not due to anything
wrong with a program, but that they have an entirely different outlook
than at 15.
YBC was for recommendation and not every recommendation is always taken
at face value nor is it mandatory that it be followed.
Mrs. Laird indicated she is the mother of a 12 year old and that next
year he will be eligible for the Pony League and will come up against
boys outweighing him 20 to 30 pounds and who are taller than he will
be by many inches. This is fine, as she was in favor of competition,
but if he is up against 15 year olds, it is different. Their additional
height and strength competing with 13 year olds needs little explana-
tion, let alone social differences and then with a 90-foot base path....
The 13 year old is an 8th grader and the 15 year old is in the loth
or highschool, and their personal and social differences are very great,
and a 15 year old isn't going to downgrade himself to a 13 year old
level, so the 13 year old is going to start thinking and emulating
the 15 year old.
When baseball is thought of here, it is thought of as from June to
• August, but the boys actually start in February for spring training
and through the end of August.
It was indicated that she was not for conformity, and this other
group, Edgewood League, feels they are fighting conformity, but when
this sets aside the tried and true plans in favor of any method, it
does not offer an immediate nor a long range advantage, and this is
not non -conformity, it is fuzzy thinking.
Councilman Towner-. I think we have here an example
of two dedicated groups, both of
which have very fine programs and
each group is sold on their program. The recommendation of the YBC is
to conform to the franchise league programs and that is understandable
since the YBC is 8 to 1 franchise league. There is no quarrel with
their being sold on their own program, but I do think they have some
fears based more on conjecture than on reality and I think we can have
the two programs as an asset in the City for the benefit of the City.
It appears we have a recommendation by the YBC not adopted by the
Parks and Recreation Commission, and in my mind the Edgewood League .
could go ahead and give it a try. They have very strict conditions
proposed by -the Parks and Recreation and franchise league has the
first lick at the boys on any drafting onto the teams. It seems
reasonable to me and it would seem to me that the franchise leagues
would not be so worried if they had first choice at the boys. I look
• at it as a good program to enhance our over all recreation program.
Councilman Snydere I would also like to say that we
have approximately 25,000 children
in this City below the age of 17
and I think it will get bigger before it gets smaller, and we need
more fields than this before you get through.
c. c. 8-14-61 Page Thirty
YOUTH,BASEBALL.-.,.Continued
Councilman Snyder - Continued. -
So -far as age, you can't categorize size according to age. 1 know 10
year olds that could play with 16 year olds and 16 year olds that
couldn't. That will apply to Colt and Pony Leagues first, so if they
have any program to offer., they will take the boys in this age group
and.I see no hindrance to this program. I think it is a healthy thing.
Councilman Barnes-, I played American Legion ball
myself, and I thought that it was
very good when the YBC was started
in West Covina. Before that every little group.used tocometo the
Parks and Recreation Commission asking for special favors. However,
when I seconded the motion regarding this matter, I saw only the chance
for more boys to play and enjoy baseball, and the more that can enjoy
it, the better. Sometimes we are too conscious, as fathers, on regu-
lations, and we do enjoy it more than the children. The children are
the ones that really should enjoy it. But I would help or promote in
any way to have as many boys able to enjoy.baseball as possible. I
think it is a good idea and I feel that is what we were doing when we
passed on the league playing at the Ridge Riders site.
The American Legion was going to develop this property, but could not
and then the Edgewood League made application for it and we favored
the same kind of development, but we heard,nothing about it for at
least a year until it came up the other night.
Councilman Adams.- I have been through Little League
and Pony League, and now I am
going through Little League again.
This is a program for boys and every boy regardless of ability should
have a place. As they get older, they do.begin to thin out, and if
they want to continue to play in organized ball, they might do so such
as we might have in this Edgewood League.:,
Mayor Heath,., Is it a policy of the YBC to
establish a policy within each
individual team? The American
League has certain rules and regulations ' which they have to live by.
I do not know whether the Park and Recreation Commission can come in
(to you) and say they do not like this phase of your program and
whether it should be this way or not, It seems what is being asked
here is for Council to make a decision on the policies and established
rules of a League, and I do not think Council is in this position.
The Council should be confronted.with only one thing at this time,
and that is "do we want to permit the Edgewood League their request?"
or do we want to permit the Edgewood League to develop the field in
accordance with your policy? I do not feel qualified to tell these
.people they are "nuts" and that "you play it in this manner."
Mr. Buck.- Did you year we were against their
having 13 or 14 year olds?
Councilman Barnes indicated he
was glad to have leagues developed ---- sio are we. We didn9t turn them
down, but we are saying they do not need 15 year olds. We have room
for many 15 and 16 year olds and why destroy something that is trying
p
to get on its feet now?
You say everybody has their sides here. I wish it were possible to ask
the thoughts of some of the people inthe Parks and Recreation Com-
mission group. You said you do not feel qualified to make a decision
as to whether these people should have 13, 14 or 15 year olds --you are
right --and that is why you created this group of specialists and that
c. c. 8-14-61
YOUTH BASEBALL - Continued
Mr. Buck - Continuedo
Page Thirty-one
• is all their interests run to. We are not saying not to form the
league, but I would like to have an unbiased group to talk to, as
there are two on Council who are members on the Edgewood League and
I feel -the matter, as expressed, is biased. Didn't Councilman Towner
at the last meeting feel he shouldn't vote on the matter because he
had some interest on it?
Councilman Barneso When I seconded the motion the
thinking that was utmost in my
mind was the additional playground,
a recreation avenue for boys, and I do not think that Council or the
Parks and Recreation Commission should get into difficulties with the
YBC. This was the reason it was created in the first place, to bring
problems to the Park and Recreation Commission for discussion, and they
in turn would recommend to the City Council.
Mayor Heatho Do you have any objection to the
property being developed? Evi-
dently none whatever, so the
crux of the matter is that the majority of the YBC feels that the age
group to use this field is too wide. I feel the majority of the YBC
objects in case there is any damage done and there is a black eye given
to league baseball or all baseball. On the other hand, the Edgewood
League feels that since it proposed it, it can operate under the
• conditions they have indicated and do it safely and efficiently. So
one group says it can do it and another says no, it can't.
Mr. Buck' We have plenty of room and need
all the 15 year olds we can get.
Mayor Heath-. You feel the Edgewood League is
going to take them away from you?
Mr. Buck-. Where we need help is in the 13
and 14 age group, and here they
can do a wonderful job without
hurting any other group or leagues, so why not try it at that level
and let the 15 year -olds go onto the other leagues. I also do not
believe they should count off 16 year olds.
Councilman Towner: I think all the arguments have
been stated and restated, and I
do not see any further point of
debate. The people representing the YBC and franchise leagues, and
all are members whether they say they are or not, think there is
something sinister in two members of Council belonging.in one group
and two members belonging in other groups. You have presented your
arguments and we have considered them, and you have lost and that is
like a baseball game. We feel that Edgewood has a very fine program
and we believe that you people are unduly concerned. Your own leagues
• are protected and you have first draft of the boys, of any boys, that
come in. You had a chance with the farm league and it didn't work
very well. You are afraid the 13 and 15 year olds can't play together
and that is not justified except size differences that exist in any
age.group. I think this is a good program proposed by the Edgewood
League.
C. C. 8-14-61
YOUTH.BASEBALL.- continued
Page Thirty-two
Motion by C.ounc.ilma.n:Towner, seconded by -Councilman Snyder, and
carried unanimously, that the. recommendation of the Recreation and
• Parks Commission regarding the use of the Valencia Heights property
by the Edgewood Baseball League be approved.
The following is the action taken by the West Covina Recreation and
Park Commission at their adjourned meeting of August 10, 1961 and on
which the previous motion of the City Council accepting their recom-
mendation was based, and which was read by the City Clerk. It actually
reinstates the action of the Commission as taken on July 27, 1961, as
follows -
"Motion by Commissioner Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Blood,
that the Recreation and Park Commission recommend approval of
the Edgewood League request to form an independent type league
for 13-15 year olds on regulation size fields, at the Valencia
Heights lease property with the following provisions-.
(a) At the end of a two (amended to read one year) year period
this be re -submitted to the Commission for re-examination
of the 13-15 year old grouping.
(b) Tryouts and signups for the Edgewood League occur after 'the
existing Pony and Colt League tryouts are scheduled each
year, as determined by a schedule recommended by the Youth
Baseball Council and approved by the Recreation and Park
Commission."
• (Carried by the following vote-. Ayes-. Commissioners Blood, Heath,
Henry, Johnson, Veronda, Whitcher; Noes-. Commissioner Busching,
opposed to mixing 13 and 15 year olds.)
Councilman Snyder did question section "b" as possibly being unfair
a stipulation directed against the Edgewood League. However, Council-
man Towner felt that on the other hand, since these people in the other
leagues seemed to be afraid their league(s) may be damaged, this
restriction can be kept on and so it will give them the first choice
of the boys and it will be reviewed at the end of the year.
Mr. Buck of the YBC stated this item could be withdrawn in that it
had been placed in the motion by the Commission at the early meeting
and they had let it go through the adjourned meeting, and that it
wouldn't effect the result in our minds.
Mr. Isbell of the Edgewood League stated he had no objection to this
restriction of signing boys up after the franchise groups had their
tryouts, and signups.
Section B stayed in as indicated in the Council motion.
GENERAL MATTERS
REQUEST OF HARTMAN-NOONAN COMPANY To participate with the City in
the street improvement of Glendora
Avenue, Precise Plan No. 273.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and
carried, that this matter be referred to the City Manager for a staff
report.
C. C. 8-14-61 Page Thirty-three
A, H. BERGE Annexation to City of northwest
corner of Francisquito and
Azusa Avenues.
• Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and
carried, that this matter be referred to the annexation committee.
CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS
A111-59-3 SANITARY SEWER DISTRICT LOCATION. Grace Court
Motion by Councilman Adams,
seconded by Councilman Towner,
and carried, that this matter be referred to the City Engineer to
contact Mrs. Morgan and explain the situation to her and the proposed
setup on the A111-59-3 Sewer District, of which she will be a part.
STREET IMPROVEMENTS 1022-1026 Valinda Avenue.
In connection with Zone Variance
No. 173 - Merlinda School. To authorize City participation in improve-
ments. Amount $650000.
Review City Engineer's report.
Motion by Councilman Barnes., seconded by Councilman Adams that
• authorization be given for City participation in street improvements
as noted and the expenditure in the amount of $650.00 for said part-
icipation. Motion on roll as follows.
Ayes. Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes. None
Absent-, None
RATES - PRIVATE ENGINEER Motion by Councilman Snyder,
SERVICE CHARGES - 1911 ACTS seconded by Councilman Towner
and carried, that rates for
private engineer service charges -
1911 Acts and other services be authorized at a rate of $8.75 per .
hour for office time and for a 3-man field group at $22.00 per hour
effective September 1, 1961.
NORTH SUB FIRE STATION Tabled for study session of Monday,
August 21, 1961, with Mr. Verne
Cox to be present to explain
appraisals given.
Councilman Snyder said at first he wouldn't attend if the study
session was just for this matter, but it was indicated there would
be other items, and he then indicated he would attend and would like
to have this particular matter reach a conclusion at that time.
WALNUT CREEK WASH
Unit 3 Charter Oak to Headworks -
Flood Control Agreement.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Barnes, and
carried, that the Mayor and City Clerk be authorized to execute the
agreement with the County Flood Control District as indicated.
c. C. 8-14-61
WALNUT &c MERCED PARK
PRECISE PLAN
Mayor Heath;
Councilman Barnes -
Councilman Towner -
are letting us use land.
Page Thirty-four
Joint improvement venture with
schools.
Does this mean spending City money
to buy equipment and putting on
school property?
Aren't we making improvements,
putting in a water system?
They are giving us land and in
return we are improving the
property for joint use. They
Mr. Gingrich- This has to be negotiated. It
increases the size of the park
1.9 acres of available land as
outlined. Gives more park land for all intents and purposes,
Mayor Heath„ Which school system can chop off
if it wants to,
Mr..Gingrich-
Not if we have negotiations with
them. However, anything can be
removed that would go in there.
City Attorney Williams: The making of improvements by the
City on another persons property
depends upon the right of use, to
the type and amount of expenditure. You should not make an expenditure
you cannot fully amortize over the time of use of the property, less
what you can obtain for salvage.
Councilman Towner- Do we need a 30-day clause in it?
City Attorney Williams- If you can have a lease for a
definite period of time, you
might justify the number of
dollars to make semi -permanent improvements, You couldn't build
buildings on a one year lease, it would be giving away public funds.
But what you put on it, you should completely be able to amortize and
have assurance you will get full use of public monies expended on it.
Councilman Barnes- I hate to object to this, because
I see the advantage of getting
additional park, but we went into
the capital improvement program to have money to improve our present
parks and it mentions $16,000.00 to improve this section when we do
not even have the rest of the parks improved. I think this is one of
the things we are trying to keep away from.
Mayor Heath:
Mr. Gingrich -
Will this improvement on school
part be accomplished the same as
rest of the park?
It is designed to do the 80-foot
strip of school property at the
same time.
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.WALNUT & MERCED PARK PRECISE
PLAN- Continued
Councilman Snyder:
They are going to put in an
irrigation system and include
it as part of future park system.
Why would they want to take
it back?
Councilman Towner:
I think both parties benefit from
the major park area and improve-
ments are on the part they do not
need for school use and same
taxpayers and people are using it.
Councilman Barnes:
Aren't we ever going to think of
buildings and developments on
present sites?
Councilman Snyder:
You have to put grass in first.
Councilman Barnes:
Yes, but if we continue to spend
money for grass and improvements
on other property, when are we
going to do anything else?
Mayor'Heath: There are high fences around
school yards because they lock
them up to keep people off there
and if someone breaks windows in schools they will lock the fences.
Mr. Gingrich:
There is no fence between school
property and....
We took a tour with the school board and several Councilmen and
pointed out the possibility of where fences could be used on existing
sites. This is a development of their theory of cooperation between
school and park sites.
Mayor Heath:
cancelled, for fifteen years.
Mr. Gingrich:
If this is the case, they would
be happy to negotiate a lease
arrangement that couldn't be
Legally, if they could do it, I
am sure they would.
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and
carried, that the City Manager be authorized to negotiate with the
schools and bring back a proposal.
Motion by Councilman Snyder,.seconded by Councilman Towner, and
carried, that the tentative precise plan for Walnut and Merced Park
Site be approved, subject to negotiations with schools.
LIBRARY SIGN Library lettering - County indi-
cated that existing lettering of
"County of Los Angeles" will be
changed from 6 inches to 10 inches --that is only change.
POST OFFICE PARKING Acquisition of additional land
under consideration by officials
of regional office and are aware
of need and will extend efforts in seeking a solution. City will be
kept advised of developments in this matter.
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SAN GABRIEL VALLEY
PROTECTIVE ASSOCIATION
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Water conservation. Request for
participation by City.
• City Clerk to notify them the
letter has been received and is to be placed on file.
RESOLUTION NO. 2168
ADOPTED
The City Manager presented and
read -
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA REQUEST-
ING THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY COM-
MISSION TO MODIFY THE VINCENT-
CALIFORNIA AVENUE INTERCHANGE WITH
THE SAN BERNARDINO FREEWAY."
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows-.
Ayes- Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes- None
Absent; None
Said resolution was given No. 2168,
COUNCIL COMMITTEE Councilmen Snyder and Adams,
designated to attend meeting of
. State Highway Department on the
widening of the San Bernardino Freeway - September 8, 1961 - Wescove
School - 1-30 P.M.
C. I.D.
not returned. These
TRACT NO. 2o456
The City Manager indicated that
Mayor Heath's and Councilmen
Towner's and Barnes' application
gentlemen requested another application.
changes now designated by the City.
1-foot gutter standards, now there
on interior streets.
Time extension granted with
stipulation of bringing up to
standard in relation to any
There was formerly curb and
is curb and 2-foot gutter standard
Mr. Dosh indicated that Mr. Handler agreed to the new standard
requirement of curbs and 2-foot gutters.
LETTER TO COUNTY SUPERVISORS
ON SUPERIOR COURT SITE
• land site for this use.
CIVIL DEFENSE STAFF
Mr. Kolbe
under the shady old Sycamore trees.
Councilman Towner was designated
to work with City Attorney Williams
in the drafting of a letter to the
County Supervisors relative to
Proposed use of train box cars
for fallout shelters and working
space and training, to be buried
underneath the sod in Cortez Park
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CIVIL DEFENSE.- Continued
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In general discussion of this matter, it was indicated by Council that -
since this was a matter that had to be taken under -consideration immed-
iately, not enough information has been obtained regarding cost, what
it would be used for., equipment in it and other things that might have
to be done for proper usage and at this time it would not be considered.
However, Council gave indication that if such an opportunity should
again arise, it might again consider the use if more information was
given and more time to give adequate consideration to what was involved
in order to make a decision.
STREET TREE LIST This list contained a list of
4/27/61 trees to be used in the City for
streets 50s-601; Parkway 21-41;
Parkway 4' or over; Streets 601-
100' wide: Parkway 41 or over.and trees for replacement and special.
use only. It further indicated height, space taken, alkali tolerance
and growth rate.
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Towner, and
carried, that the City of West Covina Street Tree List be approved
as per report submitted on April 27, 1961 by the Park Department.
EXPENDITURE FOR -MUSTANG
PONY LEAGUE .
for the Mustang Pony League
Pennsylvania to the National
advertising the City of West
Motion by Councilman Towner,
seconded by Councilman Snyder,
that an expenditure up to the
amount of $300.00 be approved
Team in the event that this team goes to
Baseball Tournament for the purpose of
Covina.
Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes.-. Councilmen Adams., Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
PROPOSED CONTRACT
to the Chamber of Commerce
ject to the withholding of
of the brochure project.
Motion by Councilman Towner,
seconded by Councilman Snyder,
that the amount proposed in the
budget to provide for $11,782.00
pursuant to our contract be approved, sub -
the amount of $2,000.00 pending the approval
Motion passed on roll call as follows-,
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Townes, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
CITY ATTORNEY
ORDINANCE NO. 715 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA RELATING
TO PINBALL AND OTHER MACHINES AND
DEVICES.".
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ORDINANCE NO. 715 - Continued
Page Thirty-eight
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Towner., and
carried, that further reading of the body of the ordinance be waived.
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
ordinance be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams., Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said ordinance was given No. 715.
ORDINANCE NO. 716 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING
THE WEST COVINA MUNICIPAL CODE SO
AS TO REZONE CERTAIN PREMISES."
(City Initiated)
(Rezoning series of tracts placing them into R-1)
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, and
carried, that further reading of the body of the ordinance be waived..
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Snyder, that said
ordinance be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes,.Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes:, None
Absent: None
Said ordinance was given No. 716.
RESOLUTION NO. 2169
ADOPTED
Mayor Heath:
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA AMENDING
RESOLUTION NO. 1072 RELATING TO THE
COMPENSATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY."
Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
• Said resolution was given No. 2169.
RESOLUTION NO. 2170
ADOPTED
The City Attorney presented:
"A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL,
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA DECLARING
ITS INTENTION TO CALL A SPECIAL
ANNEXATION ELECTION AND FIXING A
TIME AND PLACE FOR PROTESTS BY
PROPERTY OWNERS." (West Covina
Southerly -Annexation District
No. 169)
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RESOLUTION NO. 2170 - Continued
-Mayor Heath: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
• of the resolution.
Motion by Councilman Barnes, seconded by Councilman Towner, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows:
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2170.
RESOLUTION NO. 2171 The City Attorney presented:
ADOPTED "A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF WEST COVINA
APPLYING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE FOR AN ESTIMATE OF THE
INCREASE IN POPULATION OF THE CITY
AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF
AN AGREEMENT WITH SAID DEPARTMENT "
Mayor Heath: Hearing no objections, we will
waive further reading of the body
of the resolution.
• Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Barnes, that said
resolution be adopted. Motion passed on roll call as follows. -
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
Said resolution was given No. 2171.
PROPOSED ANNEXATION NO. 170 Motion by Councilman Towner,
LEGAL DESCRIPTION AS. PREPARED BY seconded by Councilman Snyder, and
MR. HAROLD JOHNSON PROPOSED TO BE carried, that the City Clerk shall
ANNEXED. BY THE CITY be authori-zed to file this with
the County Boundary Commission.
ASSESSMENT FOR SEWER PURPOSES In the revised appraisal, this
ON SINGER PROPERTY was not designated as $7,250.00.
The Counsel for Singer called our
City Attorney's office indicating
that he needs $8,000.00 real badly and if Council would approve this
$8,000.00 tonight, this would settle the pending law suit on the matter.
If this was done, the City would have to participate in the amount of
$750.00, as there was only allocated $7250.00 in assessment proceedings.
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Barnes, that the
City Attorney be authorized to complete a settlement for the Singer
property in the amount up to $8,000000 provided we get a title report
showing clear title. Motion passed on roll call as follows-.
Ayes: Councilmen Adams., Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
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ASSESSMENT FOR SEWER PURPOSES ON SINGER PROPERTY - Continued
Motion by Councilman Towner, seconded by Councilman Adams, and,
• carried, that the amount of $750.00 be authorized to be taken from
the Unappropriated Reserve Fund to make up the difference between
the $7250.00 allowed and the $8000.00 limit stipulated relative to the
Singer property regarding assessment for sewer purposes.
CITY CLERK
PROPOSED ANNEXATION NO. 50 - City of Covina )
PROPOSED ANNEXATION NO. 18 - City of La Puente) No objections
PROPOSED ANNEXATION NO. 2 - City of San Dimas)
PROCLAMATION OF ANTI- August 28 to September 1, 1961
COMMUNISM WEEK
The Mayor so proclaimed.
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE Mexican Joe's and El Dorado
LICENSE APPLICATIONS Dinnerhorn, %c,
Subject to police report, with
report to Council.
• CLAIM OF LAURENCE C. MC MILLAN Nothing further could be done in
relation to breakage of eyeglasses
of Mr. McMillan, due to an accident
on City Hall premises. It was indicated by Council, however, that
anyone should be checked out by a doctor relative to any accident and
it should be done immediately.
It was indicated that the matter of hotel reservations for the pending
League Convention in San Francisco would be left to the City Clerk to
carry through.
SAN GABRIEL VALLEY The recommendation of the Parks
SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA and Recreation Commission indi-
cates financial support by the
City of this orchestra.
This matter to be taken up on the study session agenda Monday night,
Mrs. Van Dame-.
These streets you are changing the
names on, you have to remember to
notify the Registrar of Voters.
• A long time ago Mr. Dosh was told or asked to have a slate put in front
of the City Hall showing the various City departments, and where they
are located, especially the Police Department. I was here before 8
one evening and couldn't get inside the City Hall, and while I was
waiting outside two people wanted to know where the Police Station was
and that occurs quite often. Mr. Dosh said it wasn't up to his depart-
ment any more and someone else had that responsibility. It should be
something right by the building that would be easily seen.
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Mrs. Van Dame - Continued
Mr. Dosh:
came under Public Services
care of it
Mrs. Van Dame-.
Mayor Heath:
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My division wasn't connected with
this until possibly this past
month in that building maintenance
jurisdiction, so possibly we can now take
Have you decided about the planners?
It is still under advisement.
Mrs. Van Dame: I do not think that any planner
should be given more than two
years time, four years is too
much. I am not quite satisfied with some of the ones on the Planning
Commission.
APPOINTMENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION Councilman Adams
ONE MEMBER ON RECREATION AND Motion by Councilman Snyder,
PARKS COMMISSION FROM SCHOOL BOARD seconded by Councilman Adams, and
carried, that the City Attorney
be instructed to revise the
ordinance on the Recreation and Parks Commission to set one member,
and only one member, recommended by the school board and the number
of Commissioners --shall be changed from seven to five.
Councilman Barnes voting "No."
It was indicated the matter of appointing a school board member or a
lay person for the one member of the Commission should be left up to
the school board.
Motion by Councilman Snyder, seconded by Councilman Towner, and
carried, that the Mayor be authorized to write a letter to the school
board explaining the fact that the Council is changing the number of
the Commissioners on the Park and Recreation Commission from 7 to 5
and they shall furnish us with one recommendation of an appointee to
this Commission rather than the two formerly designated.
DEMANDS APPROVED Motion by Councilman Snyder,
seconded by Councilman Towner,
that Demands totaling $274,853.57
as listed on.Demand Sheets C-275 through C-277 and B-82 be approved.
This total includes fund transfers in the amount of $64,393.20, bank
transfers in the amount of $35,725.00 and also Funds including time
deposits in the amount of $105,000.00.
. Motion passed on roll call as follows-,
Ayes: Councilmen Adams, Towner, Barnes, Snyder, Mayor Heath
Noes: None
Absent: None
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There being no further business, motion by Councilman Towner,
.seconded by Councilman Adams, and carried, that the meeting be
adjourned at 1 A.M. to Monday, August 21, 1961 at 7:30 P.-M.
ATTEST:
City Clerk
APPROVED
Mayor